Why (Almost) Every SG-1 Cast Member Was Written Out | Stargate Secrets
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- CAST CHANGES ARE INEVITABLE on a long-running franchise. As the years go by cast members decide to move on, retire, or quit due to conflict. Or, their character gets written out by the show's writers. But the show must go on.
STARGATE SG-1 was no exception, running for 10 years plus two direct-to-DVD movies. In each case the writers had to think creatively to write the character out of the show - and in a few cases to bring them back again later.
In fact, over its run every single member of the show’s original cast ended up written out at one time or another ... everyone, that is, except for ONE.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
1:02 - Michael Shanks ("Daniel Jackson")
3:20 - Corin Nemec ("Jonas Quinn")
4:46 - Teryl Rothery ("Dr. Janet Fraiser")
6:45 - Don S. Davis ("Gen. George Hammond")
8:55 - Richard Dean Anderson ("Jack O'Neill")
10:49 - Amanda Tapping ("Samantha Carter")
12:33 - Wrap-Up
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I never was a fan of the show (I did like the movie though) but my late brother loved it (and amanda tapping) so I decided to watch this just for him. Great job. Now I feel like I watched it without the pain of characters leaving.
@@mikeyoung9810 So sorry about your brother 😢
I like that Walter was there, dialing the gate, the whole shows run.
He was great in the 200th episode 😂🤣👍
EVERY time I see any of those puppets I hear Walter's line in my head: "I feel so stupid ..."
Gary Jones was just brilliant here. It's so great when Walter got some comedic beats.
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And even Walter got to go off world finally too. I recall the actor having a bit role in Sliders pilot. Both shows dealing with wormholes.
Walter is the best. I remember cheering loudly when they let him go through the gate in that anniversary episode.
"Open the iris. Close the iris."
Losing Dr Frasier was super unpopular, but after all these years (and re-watches) I've actually come to admire the writing and emotional depths in that subplot. It was very sad and shocking, but that allowed for amazing dialog and 1-take performances with the other characters. If some redshirt got killed instead, none of the same unsettling emotions would have been elicited and it would have been much more forgettable. The fact that fans can NEVER forget that episode is a testament to its artistic nature.
The end always gets me, patriotic music narrated with patriotic monologue like “we carve their names in stone” , the flags waving... I’m a sucker for those episodes.
@@svenwagner4717 the point of art is to make us feel something. That feeling might not be enjoyable, totally fair, but that separates this show from the average G-rated 5/10 action series where everybody ends the episode same as the start. I don't like her death but I appreciate the arc.
@@svenwagner4717 a trend then and now with any show worth its salt. Get used to it.
These episodes at least used established storytelling techniques, like foreshadowing, to prime the audience. They deliberately concealed details by telling the story from the perspective of a highly judgmental journalist up until the last possible moment. It was very solid writing backed up by excellent performances.
@@ydna worth its salt? So a one off made the entire show? You are really going there?
If you center your show/work of literature around being 'realistic' in terms of random deaths, including the main cast, then that is an artistic and consistent choice.
A one off kill for shock value is not. It just makes future plot armor more apparent and reenforces this being an executive decision with the audience.
Just because lazy bad writing to be 'edgy' became a trend, doesn't mean I need to get used to it.
Gerneral Hammond of Texas rest in peace.
It's either "General Hammond" or "Hammond of Texas (with the hand-over-head-gesture)" :)
It was great to see Daniel return to SG1, but I do feel bad for Nemic having to leave so abruptly.
one note on his name, he is called NEMEC ,from our language (czech), his name meaning is GERMAN :D it should be readed with C on end no K ;)
I thought they should have put him on to Atlantis.
They should of brought him back for more episodes, there was even one episode in universe where mckay and woolsy go to his home planet where they could of brought him back
He is in the newly released Hulu series "Captive Audience". It is about brothers Steven and Cary Stayner but told solely by interviews of people involved one way or another. Corin Nemec played teenage version in "I Know My First Name is Steven" when he was 18. When I saw it I thought he deserved an Emmy nomination and, sure enough, he got one.
He was a breath of fresh air and a very good actor and cast member in his own right, I wish he would've stayed longer. While I doubt it would've worked to have 2 essentially identical characters on the same team, he could've joined another team and made appearances in both the SGC and off-world in cooperative missions.
This is a rare example of a series that stayed solid even in its final season. I’m glad they kept Vala around even when Sam was brought back in, both of those characters were fantastic!
meh i just rewatched SG1 and movies and got to say that with the exception of some really great episodes here and there (200 for example) the last 3 seasons were pretty bad...bunch of continuity errors, episodes that had copied plot from earlier season, in-show lore breaking bits, the frequent recasting, and surprisingly inconsistent CGI that was great one min and god awful the next (the intro sequence for example).....
@@antontkachenko5674 I disagree I think the last three seasons were successfully carried by the growing frequency of roasting the entire series beforehand, a plot which culminated in episode 200, the best episode of the series.
If they could keep Vala around, why couldn’t they keep Jonas around 🥲 Jonas was a fantastic character that really brought so much intrigue, interest and compassion back to the show after 5 years!
They had to keep the Farscape team together, lol. I always try to recommend SG1 to anyone who enjoys sci-fi. And who else is looking forward to the stargate game coming in steam?
I always like seeing Claudia Black in other roles such as Morrigan from Dragon Age, Daro'Xen and Matriarch Aethyta from Mass Effect, and Tess Everis from Destiny 2 to remember that she was Vala in Stargate SG1 lol
The evolution of Jackson is one of the best character progressions. Most show like this treat the the nerdy guy as weak and useless but he got better and was able to run and gun with the rest of them. But he still had his nerdy moments.
Another character that grew from "tech support" to a strong fighter over time was Micky Smith in Dr. Who. I loved the character development.
I don't know if he was useless.
He was the heart and moral compass of the SGC, without him, many many people would have died or got in trouble because of the "ends justify the means" that the Tau'ri had to go through
I'm 70 years old and have loved watching each series multiple times. All the characters fit in as family on day one and worked well together. I could not see James Spader or Kurt Russell fitting in on the series.
That is impressive how they managed to write out so many characters but leave openings for them to return. Giving Amanda Tapping that time off was very clever and was written well enough to help establish Mitchel as you see him get the band back together. The loss of Dr. Fraiser was pretty rough too, especially after finding out she and Tapping had a great friendship behind the scenes. And their tribute to Don Davis I thought was very nice. They did put in a small bit of dialog about General Hammond having died of a heart attack as well.
I dont know if you have seen the interveiw in which Teryl Rothery describes how she was told she was being killed off over the phone. Even after many years, she was clearly upset, it must have been very upsetting at the time, to have become so close to the other actors, they still attended the many conventions of course, but you are never going to experience the day to day camaraderie that they had been used to.
@@DavidSmith-fs5qj For a quantum of solace, the show only ran for three more seasons (two of which mostly without Jack) and then it would have ended anyway.
Don Davis also played the father of Dana Scully on X files.
I think he died of a heart attack on that show too.
He was also a cement truck driver in an episode of MacGyver.
@@themarlboromandalorian "Don Davis also played the father of Dana Scully on X files."
THANK you. When I eventually got around to bingeing SG1 for the first I had this niggling feeling I had seen him before but never got around to finding out.
There is a reason why SG1 is one of the best show ever not just as a SF show but overall
On Anderson: A key reason of his long on-and-off demise is, in fact, the bad state of his knees over time. If you pay close attention, you will even see that in some of the latter show's episodes, with O'Neill getting less and less action in the field and - at times - even gasping during physical activity. That would also eventually lead to getting him promoted to general - so as not to having to do all the heavy lifting for the SG-1 team.
Fun fact: Richard Dean Anderson was given an honourary brigadier general award by the US air force.
A general in Stargate and a 'general' in real life also. =)
@@mickenoss The reason he got it was because of the realistic portrayal of the air force in StarGate SG-1. The commander in chief of the time also had a cameo in an episode, with a small dialogue with Don S. Davis - Rest in Peace general Hammond, you were the cuddliest of all generals, with a huge heart.
Could be wrong but I though I read somewhere that his back was pretty much shot as well.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Today is 'cuddle a general day' in the USA so MAGA by giving generals a hug.🇺🇲
(Not in combat though).
@@davesy6969 The reference to being huggable was because he was a huge cuddly bear to his grandchildren (In the show)
I remember watching an interview with Judge a few years ago when God of War came out. He talked about how he missed a lot of his kids' lives because of his dedication to this show, and that God of War was in some ways a love letter and apology to his kids for missing so much for Stargate.
Stargate was a TV show my dad and I shared together when I was growing up. I would only get to see him for a weekend every two weeks, so he would record each episode as they came out and wait for my weekend so we could watch it together while eating dinner. I have very fond memories of this show, but hadn't thought about it in years. Suddenly TH-cam recommends me this video, and all those memories come flooding back. I have no idea how TH-cam knew I would be interested considering I haven't searched it up or talked about it in years, but I'm glad it did. Thank you for making this video. It was nice to re-live these fond memories once again!
Thanks so much for sharing this, Vulpix298! I've heard so many stories about folks who watched Stargate with a parent and still hold those memories dear.
I had the same experience with Star Trek. Now, I'm watching SG1 with my own son, G1Transformers, and Star Trek TNG. Memories.
Is your father still alive?
You should rewatch this with your dad, a SG marathon if that is possible x
Me and my mom used to always watch it together. She has a big crush on Teal'c. She liked him better bald though...
You need shout-outs for Walter and Siler. A couple characters with only a few lines but brought so much depth to the show! Walter was stuck at the desk but worked so hard for his team. And poor Siler was always getting the short end of the stick but just kept working.
They are military, they don't have a choice
The Actor that play Siler was Anderson stunt double from his MacGyver series
I love this show so much.
The characters feel like old friends.
I want to go and catch up with them, maybe visit a planet or two.
It must have sucked for Corin Nemec, having to replace a founding member just to get kicked out before getting a chance to truly develop his character
He was not that great anyway.
@@kevin_1230 still a human being though.
@@kevin_1230 yeah he was
@@CosmicCleric Yeah. But business is business. Or so I'm told.
@@Keller5327LV He was ok. But no Daniel Jackson.
This is undoubtedly one of the greatest series ever made. Right up there with Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica.
You're joking, right?
My list looks something like TNG is = SG1 and DS9 is = SGA, ... After that I'd say Buffy followed by Babylon 5, Marvel (collectively), GOT, All other ST series, BSG, then Smallville, The garbage series = Enterprise = SGU LOL
It was for the first two or three series.
Battlestar Galactica was for the most part a snoozefest. I watched like 2 episodes of Caprica.
The best imo.
See for almost all these actors, Stargate was their swan song career wise. It might have been hard at the time to see, but everyone who touched this show became part of something timeless.
Apart from Richard Dean Anderson, he was probably the most famous in the show. His breakthrough was probably in the 80s or 90s in Macgyver so he had already made his name in TV before sg1
@@stephenphillips7699 yeah totally!
@@stephenphillips7699 You both seem to misunderstand what a swan song is.
@@ForwardEarth I get it now, thanks. This is probably their only major show. They have been in other things but not as major characters. Hammond and Carter appeared in Supernatural but as bit parts, Stargate was there main thing they'll be remembered for.
Well, Amanda Tapping does lots of directing and starred in Sanctuary, which was pretty good. Michael Shanks has stared in a few shows, including Saving Hope which was good. Christopher Judge's performance in God of War was amazing. And of course Claudia Black has done tons of stuff.
Dr Fraiser's last episode was so well done. As you soon as you find out who died you completely rethink everything you saw in that episode.
It was so sad, that episode was done with great care.
I remember Heroes Part 1 being mostly hilarious. Part 2 had me crying like a baby. It was a beautiful and impactful way for her to leave the show, but they are also the two episodes I have never been able to rewatch.
I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one crying
@@DarrellTurnerJr Had tears myself, you're totally not alone.
Losing Beckett in Atlantis really hit home too, and I think it's because of losing Fraiser before that it had such an impact and stirred the fan base enough for him to be brought back.
@@Deepingmind I did too
Man all these years later and the last ten minutes of Heroes is still a huge kick in the guts.
The end of Heroes was epic.
One of the best two part episodes in tv, ever. People still rave about the episode of MASH when the Colonel leaves and is reported dead. But Heroes is far better imo and excellently executed.
From the team bantering in the beginning (Not "Wow, we found an ancient city" but "Wow, I won the bet") and Baldwin's lines about fatherhood (which I quoted to my brother in law). I only wish that Baldwin's team had had recurring roles.
Then there is the obnoxious video guy, trying to get access to everything when a few episodes earlier there was a terrorist team disguised as a camera team. And they even reference it. Meaning the writers paid attention to what they did.
And the end with "I now read the names of all the people she saved..." is awesome.
Michael Shanks, my favorite!
Corin Nemec, my favorite!
Teryl Rothery, my favorite!
Don S. Davis, my favorite!
Richard Dean Anderson, my favorite!
Amanda Tapping, my favorite!
Christopher Judge, my favorite!
Dang, all are my favorite!
In the wise words of Teal'c "Indeed".
Totally with you on all your favourites.
Indeed they are
Heck I even got a soft spot for Maybourne!
Exactly!!!!
Maybe have an episode dedicated to composer Joel Goldsmith? His work on the SG franchise was incredible. Plus the additional composers who helped with the series.
He and Carlyle basically made like 99% of the SGU. Such a shame they never released official soundtrack of that show
I always wished Daniel would have made the jump to Atlantis like Carter did after SG-1 wrapped up their last episode...
I feel like that would have been the character's next place to settle down
tho I do understand that there wasn't really a spot for him as an every episode character, but knowing he's researching in atlantis and make an appearance every now and then could have been amazing!
Daniel would have been a great asset for Atlantis but by the time Carter went there, the cast was already pretty much packed. It would have been interesting to see Daniel in the base commander role on Atlantis.
I would have love to see move guest visits for Daniel. When he finally made it to the city he just fit like a glove.
We did get that fantastic episode(cant remmember the title), in which some renegade Asgard have taken the Attero device, which the Atlanteans have discovered by accident. It will destroy the Wraith, by preventing them from entering hyperspace, depriving them of interstaller travel, but will also destroy every stargate where ever they may be. Because a stargate exploding will result in a catastrophic explosion, millions, perhaps billions will be killed. Daniel and McKAY attempt to disarm the device, Daniel is desperate to prevent the holocaust, McKAY is too, but, seems more concerned with proffessional rivalry with Daniel, at one point, saying, "look, do you really think that you are cleverer than me? Just brilliant interplay between the two.
and that episode drove the writers a bit crazy , in that ( for a TIME - CRITICAL , WEEKLY show ) they had to develope TWICE as much SCRIPT , since BOTH of them talk so rapidfire 😄
{ definitely one of my Favorites }
@@rythemzlatin The dialog between the two was great fun.
This was a rare show where I loved everyone in it, even the new actors they brought in as replacements. Everyone was great on this show.
Teal'c really was essentially the cornerstone of the whole show, it really wouldn't have been the same without his deadpan comedy and fantastic acting! SG1 and SG Atlantis are 2 of my favorite sci-fi series ever. My wife and I regularly binge the series every other year or so.
By Teal’c , you mean Murray, right?
Indeed.
The part that really made me chuckle is that Teal'c couldn't shut up for a second thorough out the show! The guy just talked non stop :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
indeed
SG1 Is my favorite sci fi series hands down. I've tried like 4 or 5 times to get interested in SGA but something about the cast won't allow me to do it. I get bored and the dialog just goes in one ear and out the other. Not a huge fan of the space vampires either. Everyone else seems to love it. What am I doing wrong?
Walter was one of the longest lived characters. Some say he's still out there, pushing buttons.
He's not a sergeant anymore, and they're not colonels . . .
@@carlbruschnigjr1757 Walter is and always will be the unsung hero of the Stargate program.
Arguably, Amanda Tapping's Carter was actually the most important character... even when the show always made O'Neill the focal point. She was one of the smartest people, rivaling even smart-asses like McKay, AND was a capable soldier who knew how to fight. The number of occasions where she actually saved the day by coming up with some clever ad-hoc solution to an otherwise unsurmountable problem (just like Rodney, really) are countless. I want more characters like her...
Would you say ... she was the Mcgyver of the team?
Love the show, but she is a big time Mary Sue. The character got very unbelievable at times.
@@bobmcbobson8368 she blew up a star, whats unbelievable?
@@bobmcbobson8368 She is as much a "Mary Sue" as Rodney McKay or any genius scientist in any SciFi show... but that is nothing new, really. Star Trek has always been chock-full of geniuses like any given ship engineer, who come up with magical solutions to seemingly unsurmountable problems. The words "Deus Ex" come to mind...
I agree 👍💯 She was definitely a scene stealer! In a good way! Kinda like RDAs Magyver
I believe Chris Judge has said in interviews that he was potentially written out at the end of season two at his own request. Probably something to do with money, contracts etc. but thankfully those issues were resolved by the start of production on season three.
Richard Dean Anderson's way to play his character influenced and shaped this franchise like no other managed to do before him. Loved SG1 and SG1:Atlantis. Sarcasm at its best.
Kinda felt Coren was screwed over when Shanks returned. I guess Parker Lewis can loose.
That was a campy favorite show I liked watching.
I liked Jonus. He got so much hate just cause he wasnt Daniel
The Jonas character was pretty good and the Actor did well.
I didn't know that. That's was undeserved.
@@thoughtfortheday7811 When it was been released he got so much hate online. I think thats why they approached shanks again. To be honest I was guilty of not giving him a fair shake first time round. It wasnt till I re-watched I realised how good he really was. I wish they found a role for him on Atlantis.
The same thing happened with SGU. They made mistake saying its for a new generation. They'd lost before they even started. Its a shame cause season 2 was fantastic.
@@ajclannachan Thanks for the info, I had no idea. Clearly they made him a Daniel 2, giving him an eidetic memory as a shortcut to gaining Daniel's knowledge, but that was poor writing, they could have found another way, eg ask the Asgard to usee the memory device from The Fifth Race.
@@ajclannachan Both of your statement are so accurate. Sadly, we can't go back.
Because after 10 years even though all of us real fans did not want it to end it had too.
fun fact: the only episode of SG-1 that Teal'c didn't appear in was Prometheus Unbound
I knew he'd missed at least one or two along the way, but I couldn't place it. Thanks!
IIRC Chris requested time off to spend with his family.
Indeed.
@@axelfoley1406 I see what you did there.
I love how much this does sound like their on-screen characters. Richard Dean Anderson prioritizing his family, but sticking around nontheless to help his friends and colleagues, Michael Shanks essentially becoming bored, Amanda Tapping and Christopher Judge sticking around until the end ...
Whether it's the writers or the casting departement, someone out there definitely deserves a shout-out.
Teal'c is indeed the MVP of the show 😊✨
Indeed! Also fitting he's the only SG1 member that remembers what happened in the series finale. Imagine we get a return of SG1 with the now elderly crew members xD
Indeed!
@@thoughtfortheday7811 Glad I wasn't the only person who's first thought was "indeed" 😂
Someone has to do operation human shield after all.
Love Stargate. McGuyver drew me in, but three actors from the series are ones I followed after.
1) Amanda tapping (I have her autograph as well from when she did Sanctuary)
2) Janet Frasier
3) Jason Momoa (Atlantis). Been a big fan of his from Stargate, before he really got on popular radar for Game of Thrones and Aquaman.
Jack golfing into the stargate is my favorite scene. Such a great show.
That episode and 200 are my favorites.
I definitely preferred Richard Anderson over Kurt Russel
They should've explored Jonas' life after the SGC. Let's remember that his brain capacity had evolved well over the earthlings due to something about his planet. It was confirmed by Anubis. I guess the Asgard would've had much better luck with Jonas.
Should have shown up at least at the start of Stargate universe for his experience with naqauda
@@TheNewton Imagine his disappointment if he was in it when the show gets canned lol.
“The Asgard would’ve had much better luck with Jonas.”
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“So you’re looking for someone dumber than you?”
“Well you came to the right place! :D Well, except for maybe Jonas. He might be too smart for your needs..”
Oh really, I thought he just had a photo graphic memory.
@@meoff7602 nope even Neerty (is that how you spell it?) said so when she offer him powers beyond his dreams. Of course he refused.
It's been a little while since I've seen the show but watching this sure does make me want to start watching it again (for about the 10th time).
After all these years it just occurred to me how similar Daniel’s death was to Spock’s death in the Wrath of Khan. Both face their, “Kobayashi Maru” by entering an area with radiation ☢️ to save others from a massive explosion 💥. Then their essence, spirit, or katra is saved by another and returned to physical form.
How did I not see this? You are, of course, spot on. Very similar story arcs. And both deaths deeply felt.
@@lisaboban - Absolutely . . .
Good catch. Maybe there was a bit of friendly plagerism going on behind the scenes?
A spoiler alert might have been cool 😢
Heroes is definitely one of the best SG1 episodes, and while I see a lot of people hating that Frasier/Rothery was the cost of that, it has the payoff to justify it (and at least to my knowledge while it was a sucky situation, it wasn't something born of bitterness or budget cuts).
Indeed.
People still rave about the episode of MASH when the Colonel leaves and is reported dead. But Heroes is far better imo and excellently executed. For the longest time I thought that O'Neill was the one. And the farewell scene when they read of the names of people saved by the Doctor was awesome, too.
I love all the four main characters (plus the doc and general), they're already diversed and naturally written back then.
The most unbelievable part of this whole series is that they'd get the Air Force to do ground missions in unknown territory.
Delta Force
@@stevekillgore9272 Delta is Army, not AF.
@@Powerhaus88 Not with _that_ attitude.
USAF has special operations troops. not that unrealistic.
@@sugarnads yes but it does seem strange for them to be the PHYSICAL tip of the spear instead of the brains and support
you never think about these things watching the series because the writers do an amazing job making it organic... i loved this!
You cannot fault a single member of the Stargate cast, they were all excellent.
You can fault Shanks for getting them to replace Rothery w/ his wife. That's why she was killed.
Not the case at all. The producers actually auditioned multiple doctors through Season 8 (Alison Down and Andrew Airlie) before eventually casting Lexa in Season 9.
@@GateWorldDotNet so they passed on multiple better actresses in favor of one who could play a cyborg so well because she's so robotic?
Michael Shanks is the worst actor ever, and ruined what would have been a perfect cast...
@@mymodel6 He certainly had the maximum strength plot armour.
Genuinely one of the best sci-fi shows ever written. Even at it's lowest campiest level it had good writing, interesting world building, and a crack cast of actors that had amazing onscreen charisma and chemistry.
Excuse me? it's lowest campiest level had the best writing
@@FrancisR420 aka comedy relief episodes where no plot progresses its just funny
No no no. The doctor was always a part of the main cast. At least that’s how all of us felt. And that was dirty the way they did her killing her off.
Agreed her death always felt so forced and out of place to me.
Couldnt agree more Chris. Janet was a main character, Teryl Rothery was apowerhouse, who, for me stole every scene she was in. She should have had far more screentime, and more character development. Her death was pointless, serving no creative purpose. With regards to killing off Daniel, he, like all of the main stars had the protection of plot armour, his dying and coming back became arunning joke on and off screen.
@@DavidSmith-fs5qj : "Oh my god! They killed Daniel! You bastards!"
@@hawkeye5955 When you have got plot armour, they can never kill you.
i agree. i still get teary eyed over it. it was so sudden and hit me hard emotionally, and apparently still does. i always hated seeing her die like that. it's such a hard hitting scene that really snuck up on me the first time i watched it. i didn't expect to find out it was her until the very end of the episode, and after all that emotional build up throughout, i was balling my eyes out when they showed the tape. it was rough. :'( to this day it still doesn't sit well with me.
Over on Babylon 5, JMS had trap doors ready in case an actor dropped out. Loved both shows.
This show is by far my favorite of all time.
What makes it so great imo is that seemingly everyone loved their job.
You can feel it through the screen, it at times makes the 4th wall just sliiiiiiightly translucent such as when the actors are laughing with each other instead of the characters laughing with each other.
I never liked the "ascended beings" plot thread, but at least the writers used it well, even making it the whole point of the Ori war. Watched the whole SG-1 series with my wife, and I have fond memories of the entire cast. Even the "filler" characters have a lot of depth and intrigue to them to the point that I didn't even think about what studio / production reasons were behind the character departures.
The ascended thing didn't sit right with me either. It felt like it cheapened the sacrifices made by the characters, especially Daniel, with how often it happened to him
@@redstorm8373 I would have loved to seen Michael Shanks contract, usually when an actor expresses a desire to leave a show, then that is usually the end, but Daniel just keeps coming back, over and over again. The continual dying, ascending then coming back story became a running joke on and off screen. You migt have imagined that the writers could have come up alternatives, he has a big bust up and leaves, he if taken by the Goa'uld, goes through the time mirror(again).
We dont mind plot armour, that is something common to most sci-fi shows, but in Daniel's case it just got silly, and like you say, just cheapened the sacrifices by other characters.
@@redstorm8373 I did like that when Daniel "died" he did not get a funeral because he was not doing that again.
Actually, the ascension aspect of this show is what made it solidified with a “legendary” mark for me.
But for people nowadays, it’s hard for people to fathom aliens being real in our reality. Let alone there being a higher plane of existence after this reality… just makes me feel that to many people subconsciously (or consciously) just believe our energy ceases to exist once our bodies die… that type of thinking doesn’t make sense to me.
@@zeeray3173 I agree with that 👌
I just want another Stargate show ...
Same
As long as they don't tailor it specifically to fit supposed modern tastes (which the majority of the population don't agree with, but loudmouthed radicals in media, politics and in the upper echelon of corporations seem to want to push...you know what I am talking about, right?)...it's not like SG-1 didn't have a character for everybody (well: Almost)...they had two nerds (Daniel and Sam), they had an intelligent tough woman (Sam - who wasn't a Mary Sue and had her issues and had earned her place through hard work!), they had Jack (strong leader, but not a hardass and he also had his issues, which made him compelling - just like Sam) and they had the stoic tough warrior (Teal'c), not to mention the people who showed up a lot like Dr. Fraiser, General Hammond, Sergeants Siler and Harriman
Seriously, we don't need that and we also do not need Stargate to immitate other popular shows! Like SGU tried to do, where they kitbashed some Star Trek Voyager, with (New) Battlestar Galactica (especially the bad set lighting, which seriously pisses me off! Seriously, starships are well lit, not dark like caves! Not to mention the constant and pointless infighting of unlikeable characters!), Lost and some others...seriously: Stargate can stand on its own, so don't copy other shows (note: I am of course biased becasue I don't like (New) Battlestar Galactica! Seriously, except for maybe Adam most characters are so unlikeable I would probably space them all!)
I worry that Amazon will ruin it with some pc garbage writing.
Well it wont have RDA in it, the epitome of ageing badly...
@@danielleza908 yet again same here. I really hope Amazon doesnt ruin it
I loved Corin Nemic and thought he should have been kept on. He was a great addition to the cast.
I agree. He is maybe the only replacement in TV history that I didnt hate
Yes, I was quite disappointed with Corin being written out. Never liked how Shanks turned the character into the anti-Daniel.
My feelings too.
Yeah Jonas was a good character, he wasn't a Jackson but that's it! He was his own person and I wish he came back, even as cameos. Imagine him popping over to Atlantis for a mission/episode or two!
sad to say, all the Daniel Jackson Fangurls squawked like little bitches and hated on Jonas's character. I loved Jonas Quinn and really liked what he brought to the team. But the Jackson Fanatics would have none of it.
What I especially love, is how SG1 made each instance feel organic and natural. They just made sense.
Loving your breakdown. But when you mentioned Don S Davis' vital contributions, his Mac connections and his death's mention, the George Hammond and her commander . . . Davis also appears in MacGuyver as a hunter, furthermore Tapping stating Davis' death from heart attack at such a young age, when she speaks that line to Cameron at the infamous elevator entryway. And did anyone else in theatre notice Judges' appearance in Dark Knight Rises ? US President in that movie is even same actor that player US President in this video !
It was Sheppard not mitchell she speaks to about Hammond passing away. and yeah Judge's and William Devane's appearance in TDKR kinda took me out of the movie for a minute because I'm like "what's teal'c and President Hayes doing in the DC universe? LOL."
General Hammond was not only a father figure for the SG1 team, but also for me. I loved the series as a youngling.
He passed away. :(
@@sorrowinchrist3387 Yeah. Losing Don Davis still stings.
I just found this out and I’m still on the first season. He’s been the most convincing and most like able character for me, it’s sad to hear he’s no longer alive… 😭
This is one of my most favourite TV shows. I LOVED it. It's great to see these old clips. Thanks!
Michael Shanks contract disputes just made the show better. The way the scripts were written gave us the tension that any main character could die BUT... his frequent guest appearances during Season 6 with his ascension fit the entire story arc so well. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I loved the episode where Jack was getting tortured and Daniel stays with him
@@AdamantLightLP Some of the best acting of the series. When Daniel told Jack "You would do the same thing if you were in my shoes" and Jack said something like "No! I'd bust you outta here and kick these bad guys azzes to hell and back!" - loved it! It was funny yet the performance smacked of desperation and it summed up these two characters personalities and interactions for the entire series.
Just for the record... Jonas Quinn is from Kelowna which is a city in British Columbia (where Vancouver - the place where the Stargate shows were produced- also is). In another episode where the SG1 team end up in a dreamworld acting as members of a fire station crew - the name of the city they were in was "Coquitlam" another city in BC and a part of Metro Vancouver. As someone who lives in Vancouver, these little details always feel like an inside joke just for people in the area. :)
Also the chosen name for his planet is Langara which is near Vancouver
Kinda like how George Lucas changed names for places on the fly in the OG series based off cool names near filming locations.
That's interesting, as an American I did not know this. Thanks for sharing!
you totally forgot to mention RDA's injury which also might be contributed to him being less and less onscreen
My favorite TV show of all time. Thanks to all involved.
Dr. Fraiser's death really got to me probably the hardest of any show I have ever watched. It is still hard to go back and watch it again.
Thank you, enjoyed watching this. Was heart wrenching when Daniel, Dr Frazier, and Dr Beckett died. They were all main characters to us fans!
They certainly were. Killing off Janet deprived the writers of having her appear in Atlantis, every Jack, Daniel, Sam and Teal'c all reprised their roles(we had the pleasure os seeing Sam for a lot of episodes), can you imagine seeing Janet and Carson together, even if it had been for a few episodes, or even one, she was such a beloved character, still can't accept the decision to kill her off.
Oddly enough, as much as I loved Jackson, I didn't find his death to be sad at all. It felt.........natural, for lack of a better term. Big T's salute hit me much harder.
As a kid the coming and going of the cast just seemed so natural. Deaths aside, they did so well in writing characters out.
Wow, this was a blast from the past! Way back when I still watched TV, because there were things *worth watching* on TV. Great video, and thanks for the detail about Hammond’s actor.
So hope the next instalment on Amazon brings us so much more Stargate.
Hope those cultural vampires keep their grubby little hands OFF my Stargate.
Thanks. I feel a SG1 binge watching session coming on.
I'm going to have to rewatch these. I lost track of some of the later seasons of SG1 and missed out on universe completely. One of my all time favorite shows. Definitely going to have fun rewatching everything in order. Great video!
Thanx for posting! 😊
Amanda Tapping was never "written out". Maternity leave is something very different. You really can't say that Richard Dean Anderson was written out either. He kept coming back regularly, and even made appearances on Atlantis AND Universe. Actually, it is hard to find other SF series, where the cast stayed together as long and as much as they did on Stargate SG1.
This. All the Main SG1 cast made it to the end in some fashion. the title of this video is misleading and confusing. No one was written out. They were written away for time periods (Which is entirely realistic if you ask me, People have lives (In and out of universe)). The title of this video makes it sound like by the end the entire cast was different from the season 1. Which is not the case at all.
I remember when I first watched the episode when Dr. Frasier was killed and how upset and dismayed I was as it was totally unexpected to me. Even though she was not considered a main character I had grown very attached to her brief performances on the show.
The bait-and-switch they did, hiding O'Neill during the whole episode so you would think he was the one who died, was the icing on the cake for a masterpiece episode. Dr. Frasier was a beloved member of the cast anyway, but the fact that we had just spent two hours preparing ourselves never to see Jack again, only to have someone else take the bullet made it that much more shocking, and drove home the episode's message that much more firmly.
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Her appearances were like the proverbial cherry for me so I was pretty damn shattered about it. I can only imagine how the cast n crew felt.
@@invader_jim2837 The cast were devastated, Teryl Rothery, the actress who played Janet was informed over the phone that she was being written out(to this day, she has not watched the episode), Don S. Davis(General Hammond), was devastated, they were obviously very close, it was just so pointless, it wasn't well written, it was just lazy writing, they killed her just for shock value.
@@DavidSmith-fs5qj Shock value, aye? So kinda like losing a loved one in say, war, for example?
Neat!
@@artoriasoftheabyss1495 Same goes for you, I guess.
This explains a lot. Watching the series over the yrs, parts were missing do to my work & just living life. But finally watching the whole thing on a local channel was a treat.
My all time favorite sci fi show. Well written & excellent action & acting.
Lovely review.
I watch the whole series and movies once every year or 2.
Heroes are the most powerful of all the SG-1 episodes. The USAF agrees.
I've gotta be honest, Jonas' goodbye scene felt like it was Corin's goodbye to the crew. He seemed very dejected to get the boot.
That was friggin great, thanks!
There were several bits of information I did not know! Appreciate it! Thank you! 😃
Thanks for watching, Mimi!
I've only just recently started to get into Stargate. I never really was a fan of sci-fi but I watched the movie and it was fun. Now, I'm almost finished Season 4 of SG-1 in about two weeks and I'm OBSESSED.
That's awesome! I LOVE hearing about people discovering the franchise and becoming fans!
Once you get to the beginning of season 8 Stargate Atlantis starts running concurrently. You don't need to watch them in exactly the order they premiered-that would get really annoying switching back and forth between the two series when you're binge watching.
For the most part the two shows were kept separate and independent.
But there are things that happen on one series that play into an episode of the other.
There is a guide posted in several forums that explains the idea order to watch those episodes that maximize the number of each series that you can watch, only switching when needed to explain part of an episode.
ENJOY!!!
If you thought SG1 was good, wait till you start watching Atlantis
@@DJJonPattrsn22 Thanks! I'll check it out. I tried going back and forward with Buffy and Angel when I binged them and it was a right fanny on.
I'll keep an eye out for the ones that matter.
i think some of my favorite daniel moments were his guest appearances in season 6. it was always such a treat to see him. i wish we could have gotten a season 11, season 9 and 10 were awesome with how they got so 'free' with their writing.
This is the one scifi series I re-watch every year. The storyline is impeccably human. It has it all.
I loved this. Thanks so much for making this video
One thing I liked about Babylon 5 is that JMS had pre-written a story trapdoor for *every* non-trivial character, and several of them were taken.
True, there are certain parallels. Also the kind of main character sacrifice (Fraiser vs... you-know-whom in B5) for drama amplification.
@@DuRoehre90210 thank you for saying "you know whom!!!" I want to watch that next and I'm so grateful you didn't spoil it. It doesn't even occur to some people that they might ruin it for someone else if they casually give away the entire ending with no warning. I appreciate it! 😊
Edit: actually, I wanted to ask someone, didn't want to look it up in case there were spoilers. Does B5 end on a cliffhanger? I'm not sure I can handle another show that doesn't resolve itself. I wish they wouldn't end seasons on cliffhangers, it's not cool for fans who are invested, sometimes a great show is left hanging forever to haunt us.
@@nicoleowens2318 It's been awhile since I watched B5 but I think it ended fairly conclusively. The main story is mostly resolved by the end of the show. They tried to shore up some of the unresolved minor plotlines with a couple movies and a spin off but they are not nearly as good as the main show. Everything major is tied up nicely by the end.
Stop reading here to avoid very minor spoilers for the end....
It ends with a time skip and a happily ever after, so we are left to assume those minor plotlines were solved in the meantime. Which is for the best because I'm pretty sure the spin off show does end on a cliffhanger.
corin nemec is the most tragic character. got the hate of the fans. and I truely never hated him. im really sad that he needed to go. And that he wasnt considered for atlantis. Jonas was a cool character and i feel so sorry for him.
THIS was an amazing video to watch.. Thank you
awe man, now I have to watch all of Stargate again. thanks :D
I wish they could have done something different after the fall of the Goa'uld and the System Lords. Honestly, I really hated the Ori and that whole story line.
yeah hated the whole assended bs. They went from sci fi to ssword and scorcery bs.
Yeah, I stopped watching the series when they switched to the Ori thing. Couldn't stand Vala (Claudia Black) either.
I think Samantha Carter was actually promoted to Brigadier General by Stargate Universe, but I barely caught that show.
She was a full-bird Colonel by the time she took over Atlantis, but hadn't yet reached the rank of General when SGU ended, AFAIK.
EXCELLENT JOB on your comprehensive details and clips. Superb presentation with the facts and info. Simply top quality going on here.
Thank you, kind sir!
I started watching the series last month, saw this and had to watch this video. Thanks!
I hope we didn't spoil too much!
I am not ashamed to admit I bawled my eyes out when Janet Fraiser died. I was a grown man in my 30's and I cried when she died.
As did I my friend !
They all did their job.
Amazing how the loss of what some people describe as a minor character, has had such an impact. The character should have been expanded and developed, and definately not killed off.
@@DavidSmith-fs5qj There's a chance they could have dropped the ball in doing so.
I also doubt the wisdom behind randomly expanding and developing a character so late into a series.
If you meant they should have done that from the beginning then you have to think: what would they have had to cut from the show in order to achieve this?
I'd be happy to replace most of if not the entire Jaffa Freedom sub plot for Janet based content. They spent _waaaay_ too long on that.
@@invader_jim2837 You make some good points. There was more potential for character development in Atlantis, becasue the main focus of the show was not limited to four main characters. With regards to Janet based content, that was oviously never going to happen. Having said that, the relationship that many longed for(Sam and Jack), was never going to happen, but the one relationship that could have worked was Daniel and Janet. Daniel wasn't in the military, so there was no issue there, it would have led to more character develpment for Shanks, who knows?
It seems to me that some of the fans could sit around a table, and come up with some good idea's for stories.
I loved the show. I watched it from the beginning to the end. I watched Atlantis and then Universe. I was not that into Universe, but it was a continuation of Stargate. I still want to see the ending to Universe. The main Stargate series was the best. I love the entire cast. I love how they went into depth of their characters, even the minor characters had depth added to their character. It was heart breaking so see any character leave by death or whatever leave, as well as the actors. All the actors, writers, directors and so forth did an incredible job with Stargate.
1997-2008 were my best SciFi years. 10 seasons of SG1 + 5 seasons of Atlantis was magical.
Solid video👍👍really enjoyed it
Thanks for watching, Leo!
I remember a 'behind the scenes' interview with Anderson, they were discussing the various cast members. When it came to the actress playing Dr. Frazier, Anderson laughed and said, "we learned early on not to give her coffee in the morning." I suspect she must have been a character after she had coffee.
Anybody else expecting the person would be Walter? He's got the most episode credits all shows inclusive of any cast member.
Yeah. The two two Tech Sergeants (Harriman and Siler) get too little credit for what they did. The stuntman who embodied Siler especially needed every day off and good health care. One scene I remember is when they test the new flak vests that are able to hold off a staff blast and he gets blasted. Or in the groundhog day episode when he gets hit by the door in the face a hundred times.
@@donaldduck830 Dan Shea(Siler) is stuntman and RDA's stunt double.
@@vilnaszekje That is what I said. An excellent stuntman who then got the role of a tech sergeant.
Ever heard of Cameron? Stand-in and stuntdouble on Star Trek, Possibly one of the persons with the most days on set and only hardcore fans ever heard her name.
finally a good GateWord episode worthy of this excellent franchise! thank you!
Ooh Ooh fun stuff. Really loved this series
I like that they made Jonas super smart so they didn't have to spend a lot of dialogue time catching him up lol
That's a great point. It really helped things transition more smoothly, you're right.
Chris Judge appears in the most episodes of SG1, while Amanda Tapping is in the most episodes of Stargate. Joe Flanigan and David Hewlett are the only people to appear in every episode of their series.
Heh! The actor played Lucius Lavin - Richard Kind - in SGA, also appeared in the original "SG" movie as Dr. Gary Meyers, who studied the stargate device..
@@Sergei_Agarkoff Yes, but that's only 3 stories.
@@10thdoctor15 Agree.
But it was funny... I was re-watching the original SG several years ago, and found the mimics of that actor very familiar.
I could not recall, who is he, so I made the screenshot and found that he is Richard Kind, and what parts of SG he took a part.
Thank you for sharing this news.
Thanks for the video. Now I feel like rewatching the series
Thanks for watching!