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  • @williamestes629
    @williamestes629 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    I think Stargate's lore was getting really good with Atlantis.

  • @Connor.SG-1Ring
    @Connor.SG-1Ring 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    From what I've gathered, the Tria is still very much intact. Given how it was left halfway between pegasus and the milky way galaxy. The SGC could use it as a new midway station, while gradually repairing it.

    • @ReddwarfIV
      @ReddwarfIV 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Or they could have towed it home.

    • @Connor.SG-1Ring
      @Connor.SG-1Ring 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@ReddwarfIV Hyperspace travel while towing another ship, especially one that's larger than the Daedalus would've been slow and cost a lot of energy. It's more efficient to send people and materials via a stargate to repair and study the ship.

    • @GateWorldDotNet
      @GateWorldDotNet  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It certainly seems possible the Tria itself never made it back to Atlantis. But I can't imagine Helia wouldn't have left some crew behind with the ship, and it's never followed up on again ...

    • @Connor.SG-1Ring
      @Connor.SG-1Ring 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@GateWorldDotNet All of the ancients were eager to get back home. Helia might've originally planned to repair the ship, once she and her crew properly settled in Atlantis.

    • @brll5733
      @brll5733 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      IIRC, it was docked with Atlantis and got dismantled by the Replicators for material to repair Atlantis.

  • @ZagrosŞêxbizin
    @ZagrosŞêxbizin 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I was just writing a twitter thread about the Destiny and this notification pops up! What a coincidence. Also just watched the Aurora today!^^

  • @thomasw695
    @thomasw695 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I just wish for once they would actually be able to keep one of them

  • @HemisphereCinema
    @HemisphereCinema 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    the Aurora ep had a bittersweet ending rip the crew , it was nice of shepard and his team to honor them with the drink in the end.

  • @DrNA142
    @DrNA142 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I always wished they would show us lantean ships from before the war, because those on the show look too skeletal almost as if they were jumbled together under the crushing weight of the war.....

    • @patryn36
      @patryn36 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      they did in stargate universe with the destiny vessel.

    • @DrNA142
      @DrNA142 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@patryn36 destiny is great and very ornate, but it's so ancient it doesn't have à hyperspace drive. i wanted them to show us the latest pre war ships, , they could've done really inspiring stuff, just look at the ori...

    • @patryn36
      @patryn36 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@DrNA142 it has a very similar drive to hyperspace, at least speed wise . The ori is not a good example, we did not see any of their older tech either. Chances are those aurora class ships are older than we think and were just upgraded as the tech progressed.

  • @Stargateobsessed-p1l
    @Stargateobsessed-p1l 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    I never understoof why the Atlantis Personal didnt repair and send the ship back to Earth for use over there. It just seemed wasted in no mans land and it was destroyed.

    • @patryn36
      @patryn36 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      they did not have a way to produce zpms meaning it would not function as well as you think it would.

    • @ReddwarfIV
      @ReddwarfIV 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​@@patryn36Auroras didn't carry ZPMs as standard. They really should have done, but you know... plot.

    • @patryn36
      @patryn36 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ReddwarfIV they had one each as their main power, the video even said as such, they were largely depleted by the time they were found. Aside from the ancient replicators, no one in pegasus could make replacement zpms or replacement aurora class ships.

    • @ReddwarfIV
      @ReddwarfIV 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@patryn36 When in the show was it said that Auroras have ZPMs?

    • @patryn36
      @patryn36 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ReddwarfIV i did not say show, i said video, as in the video we are commenting on. Pretty much all ancient tech above a certain size used zpms, also when shepherd and crew took out a wraith cloning site it was powered by zpm(s) that they captured from destroyed ancient ships, ie most likely aurora class vessels.

  • @ImperialHell172
    @ImperialHell172 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I still hate the fact that Ancients who were aboard the Tria were all wiped out. What they could’ve given and helped humanity with, would have been insane. Earth would’ve ended up being the dominant force in both galaxies and may have even found a way to get the Destiny’s crew back home within months

    • @ThePCguy17
      @ThePCguy17 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah that would have required the Tria's crew to not be manganimous dickbags and idiots, something they utterly failed at.

    • @eugenebelford9087
      @eugenebelford9087 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ehm, and as many episodes of SG, SGA and SGU have sufficiently shown: All those advanced peoples were actually not wrong with their cautious approach regarding transfer of technology to humanity. Starting with the fact that there is no unified Earth; there wasn't even someone who could credibly speak for the entire USA if you look at Kinsey and the NID. And beyond Earth you had a humanity which included such diverse elements as the Lucian Alliance and Jaffa.
      Let's not forget: Humanity is far, far away from really understanding the Ancient/ alien technology they use. At best, some can be replicated, but that's about it. Yes, the Tau'ri now have access to sort of a "repository of knowledge" as an Asgard inheritance - but only a select few even know about let alone have access to it.
      Which leads to last but not least: According to the Asgard, they themselves barely scratched the surface of what Ancient's repositories of knowledge contained.

    • @ThePCguy17
      @ThePCguy17 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@eugenebelford9087 The caution was merited. The arrogance, on the other hand, was decidedly not. It's just a shame that the only species which regularly got humbled despite their advanced tech was the Asgard, and they were usually too busy dealing with the replicators to actually help Earth along so the fact that they didn't treat everyone around them like primitive apes didn't really benefit the main characters of the show all that much.

    • @Ragastr
      @Ragastr 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I totally agree with you! You met the Ancients. There are only 100 of them. But you didn't even ask what they would do when they returned to Atlantis. And why go back at all, maybe fly on to Earth. Then you could have promised to return, but not let them land right away. And find out their intentions for sure. And say that the team will not leave the city, because now we have come here and are working here. There is a war going on in the galaxy again. Or when the Ancients took the city, as I understand it, the Humans had more people and military power.
      In short, it's just not a very well thought out plot. It would have been better not to introduce this ship at all

  • @davidhenneman3747
    @davidhenneman3747 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love the ship reviews!!

  • @thomaswakefield6889
    @thomaswakefield6889 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The crew of the Aurora were not dead when Shepard and his team boarded the ship, but they were 10k years old and still alive in their stasis pods, thinking they were still fighting the wraith. Also, the Aurora class ships only had the short-ranged hyperdrive systems and not the interstellar ones.

    • @JudasPainting
      @JudasPainting 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I came here to say this

  • @Guhrbuyten1146
    @Guhrbuyten1146 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video dude!

  • @jutau
    @jutau 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It would be nice if they get some Oneills and Auroras together. Also with the Ori gone, getting their ships would make such an awesome fleet.

    • @chrisk3127
      @chrisk3127 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      if any Ori motherships were left in our galaxy the priors would've probably taken them back to their home galaxy along with all the former Ori crusaders after ark of truth, maybe Earth could make Oneil class ships if the blueprint is in the Asgard archive but the resources to build one vs how effective it was compared to just a 304 with the plasma beam doesn't seem great, if they found a shipyard in Pegasus that could manufacture Aurora class though that would've been hype, slap a Asguard based hyperdrive and maybe Asgard based shields/power generation into a aurora and you have a beast of a ship.

  • @Grimlock794
    @Grimlock794 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I hated that they would find a ship only to lose it a couple episodes later. Same with the interstellar gate system.

  • @unarealtaragionevole
    @unarealtaragionevole 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    In the episode Aurora, was I the only person who said, "What were they thinking?" I get it, this was an episode of the week. But let's think about this. You have a ship full of Ancients in stasis pods, their minds are connected in a VR world, they can't be reconnected to their bodies because their bodies are too old and can't survive...OK...so go get the Asgard who are masters of cloning and have the Asgard clone their bodies and put their minds into the cloned bodies? I never understood this episode. I understand that 1) the ship was failing and 2) the Wraith were on there way. But 1) they had generators and ZPM for power and 2) they could pull the ship to a new location. Now granted that has risk but then they could take the ship anywhere to limit the risk. And yes, we know their power capabilities would have have prolonged their stasis potential until the Asgard could get there. I'm just saying unlike the Ancients of the Tria who were unreasonable to the SG team, the Lanteans of the Aurora at least seems more rational and might have been more helpful. Not to mention they would see the Asgard are on our side giving us a little credit in their opinion of us. That was the problem with the Tria, those Lanteans were grateful for the help but then they didn't see as equals or special. We were a lesser species who basically took over their property.

  • @ahfimiwonawun
    @ahfimiwonawun 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I was soooo interested in seeing more of this show, once they dropped the overwhelming drama and got back to being more stargatey.

  • @kataseiko
    @kataseiko 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would have been interesting to see a BC-305 ship that's somewhat larger than the BC-304 but with a mix of Asgard and Lantean technology, able to easily cross the space between galaxies, armed with both drones and beam weapons. And after humanity is picking up where the Ancients left off, the Nox can come out of hiding and the Pegasus Asgard might be convinced to pick up where the Ida Asgard left off. And there we have a "next generation" show of maybe limited runtime that is trying to find where the capital F the "Furlings" have disappeared to.

  • @achong007
    @achong007 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yea, I would like to know how to create and use the ZPM. Why, it will make space travel truly easier by our standards. More then enough power to last forever and power everything on a ship.

  • @nickpond9337
    @nickpond9337 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Most if not every ~ one is Happy that the Hippaforalkus ! had a Name change !

  • @cernstormrunner7263
    @cernstormrunner7263 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    would have been cool if they could have added those Drone weapons to the Daedalus class

  • @joshknight3607
    @joshknight3607 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What i never got was they had the schematics for zpms they had to have a manufacturing facility near by

  • @luketurner314
    @luketurner314 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Near the end, "faded into ancient history" in a video about Ancient warships

  • @bradanderson4589
    @bradanderson4589 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In this video alone, Melia McClure, Brandy Ledford, Megan Leitch, Jill Wagner... these names and faces I am able to readily recall from memory. Because the Stargate casting crew chose some of the most attractive and talented, supporting female actors that I've ever seen. Melia McClure in particular, playing a beautiful and wise Ancient, with those big expressive eyes... I will always wish that her character had been given a larger role in Stargate Atlantis. And sadly, it appears that Melia retired from acting after that.

  • @joshjenkins3815
    @joshjenkins3815 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've never seen 6:03 I had no idea Aurora Class ships could land on a planet!

    • @simondj8572
      @simondj8572 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In was left over by replicators later on when a group escape under leadership of Elisabeth who's conscience was moved to replicator body.

    • @joshjenkins3815
      @joshjenkins3815 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@simondj8572 Oh, I thought that was the traveler ship

    • @GateWorldDotNet
      @GateWorldDotNet  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We are told that the Travelers' ship landed on their new colony world and was destroyed when the gate exploded. But I used that shot from "Ghost in the Machine," as it's the only time I think we've ever seen one parked (aside from the hangar on Taranis).

    • @jovanblackman2608
      @jovanblackman2608 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wait a minute, whatever happened to that particular ship that was landed? 👀

    • @joshjenkins3815
      @joshjenkins3815 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jovanblackman2608 Attero device detonated the gate I think.

  • @RomeGod177
    @RomeGod177 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Never understood how the Ancients lost the war. Imagine how many of these ships they must have had. 7 were abandoned, and who knows how many more are left to be discovered. So, the Ancients must have had around 30-50 of those ships. vs. the Wraith 60 hive ships. I just don't see how they could have lost

  • @andrehndz9320
    @andrehndz9320 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The ancients had at least 2 different Hyperdrive engines the galactic and the intergalactic kind like the one in Atlantis, I believe the Aurora class warships used the less powerful version.

  • @diri08
    @diri08 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lol he sais "Over my dead body" That is the exact moment he sealed his own fate.

  • @007REAPER007
    @007REAPER007 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Given the level of Tech the Ancients had, im surprised they didnt create a recall device for their ships or a way to find them where ever they might be but then again I still dont see how they lost the war to the wraith, must have been arrogance like the Tollan.

    • @NemoNoone-p3p
      @NemoNoone-p3p 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It is explained in the show as...
      "They could win every battle, but not the war."
      While Atlantean/Ancients had some good tech, the Wraith were growing in numbers or holding steady enough that they could simply take more losses then the Ancients.
      The Ancients took a lot longer to replenish ranks than the wraith and even if 5 ancients were lost in every battle to 100 wraith...the wraith could simply outlast them in a prolonged war.

    • @007REAPER007
      @007REAPER007 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NemoNoone-p3p I also wondered if its because the ancients didnt have the heart to destroy entire Wraith worlds like they probably could, Empire style, a ship powered by 5 ZPM's that could crack a planet in half.

    • @chrisk3127
      @chrisk3127 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      after the war started they didn't have the resources to do much, they even had to stop outfitting their warships with their faster hyperdrives which shows how strained they were lol.
      at the start of the war yes they were arrogant and by the time they started fully committing to the war effort it was too late.
      not even 5 ZPM's, just one of the defense Laser platforms with a single ZPM lol (each one was supposed to be able to easily destroy 3 hive ships without a ZPM), the problem is the Wraith usually don't settle on worlds, they live on their ships, they only go to planets to farm people... most of the ancients didn't want to kill innocent people shown by some of their scientists developing bio weapons and such that probably never got approved for use by the Atlantis council.

    • @nihilityjoey
      @nihilityjoey วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@chrisk3127That has nothing to do with why they had slower hyperdrives etc. They nerfed their hyperdrives and never equipped their battle ships with ZPMs in case the wraith managed to gain and use their tech to go to other galaxies with humans.
      The problem with fighting the wraith for the ancients, was that they were a sapient, sentient technologically advanced race, that was feeding on humans to survive. They weren't your typical enemy like the gou'ald, out taking territory and enslaving people. Had that been the case the ancients would have whooped them into submission. The wraith bred like termites and HAD to come back, to survive. There were a load of moral issues for the Ancients when dealing with the wraith. They tried everything to buy them more time to think how best to proceed. In the end they took three ships equipped with ZPMs to go into the heart of wraith territory, possibly to do enough damage to their numbers that it would take them a long time to recoup. The wraith however laid a trap for them, got their ZPMs and clones themselves silly, overwhelming the ancients. This is why they didn't equip their warships with ZPMs from the start.

  • @GNJWKang
    @GNJWKang 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Ancient war ships seem too human for their level of technology. Yes 100 ancients are way less than humans would use to command a ship than that size but it always seemed like such a waste and human take on a race that made the stargate and crossed galaxies. Perhaps it was strictly because the show was made during the lens before drone warfare was going to be the path forward in our real world. Just seems like such a waste to put 100 of the smartest people in the galaxy in a ship that had a high chance of dying vs just running to a new galaxy again with the oodles of zpms. Can’t remember if they explained why they didn’t just pick up Atlantis and leave again

    • @Amar-sr6ot
      @Amar-sr6ot 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Replicators could be considered drones I guess and sicne the wreith used the zpms they aquired as a resource against the ancients they maybe were like "better not use drones, they just kill the shields and steal the ZPMS?" - but yeah its also a bit of a "plot"hole

    • @ReddwarfIV
      @ReddwarfIV 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah. Asgard ships can be operated by a single crew member, or even commanded remotely. The Ancients were always implied to be _more_ technologically advanced than the Asgard in every way but teleportation and hyperdrive tech, it's weird that their warships were so underwhelming.

  • @jeremywheeler2122
    @jeremywheeler2122 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hard to believe ancients didn't just make a lot of remote ships and go on a wraith killing spree.

    • @andrehndz9320
      @andrehndz9320 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They sort of did they created the Replicators to kill the wraith.

    • @jeremywheeler2122
      @jeremywheeler2122 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @andrehndz9320 I forgot all about that. I forget why they discontinued that idea and why those replicators grew to hate their creators though.

  • @AaronLongstreth-b9p
    @AaronLongstreth-b9p 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Tria wasn't destroyed, it was left adrift between galaxies.

  • @eugenebelford9087
    @eugenebelford9087 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:42 It's unlikely that the ships were developed in this era. Their design/ technology, I think, must pre-date the building of Atlantis (or there is a continuity error). The crew of the Aurora must have gone into hibernation around the same time as the time- travelling Dr. Weir. But although Lantians/ Ancients have a far more advanced physique compared to basic humans (Ayiana lay millions of years in just pure ice, nothing more, and didn't - for the lack of a better word - rot physically or mentally), they all degraded beyond the chance of re-awakening. Also, in difference to the hibernation pods on Atlantis, their system needed this artificial reality to keep them sane. On the other hand, the pods/ technology on Atlantis is no different to the million years older technology available at the Antarctica Outpost.

  • @RubenHernandez-xp7sg
    @RubenHernandez-xp7sg 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The best ship

  • @snailorgy
    @snailorgy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t think all aurora class ships had a ZPM.

    • @Connor.SG-1Ring
      @Connor.SG-1Ring 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These ships might be capable of harnessing energy from stars, much like the Destiny

  • @KingOfMadCows
    @KingOfMadCows 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think the Ancient ship is pretty ugly compared to Goa'uld and Asgard ships. Also, the design doesn't have the same style as other Ancient technology.

    • @ReddwarfIV
      @ReddwarfIV 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They went downhill since they built Destiny.

    • @GateWorldDotNet
      @GateWorldDotNet  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I do get the vibe that they were kind of rushed out en masse to try and put a quick end to the Wraith. Not great in the weapons department either, relative to how long the Lantean civilization had been around.

    • @KingOfMadCows
      @KingOfMadCows 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@GateWorldDotNetThe Asgard rushed the O'Neill class ship and it still looked great.

  • @AaronLongstreth-b9p
    @AaronLongstreth-b9p 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Inaccurate description in a few places. For starters they weren't ALL powered by a ZPM. They could be, but weren't usually. Ships with ZPMs were EXTREMELY powerful. Todd reveals this when he tells the story of the Lanteans defeat.
    These ships could also take on more than 2 hives. I'm sorry, but for a stargate channel, whoever is making these doesn't have detailed knowledge of the lore.

  • @jdavidbaxter
    @jdavidbaxter 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The only thing I would add, because I kinda hate their design, is that they don't match anything else the Lanteans did. There is no elegance or aesthetic to them, they were an emergency creation thrown together at the last minute to combat a foe they didn't see coming. That is why they are boxy and all utilitarian, and no beauty.

    • @Connor.SG-1Ring
      @Connor.SG-1Ring 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same. Honestly, the ship built by the Vanir using scavenged ancient tech fits better with the style and aesthetic of the Lanteans.

  • @DavidJames-c2f
    @DavidJames-c2f 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ancient ships lacked weapons only relying on drones which were powerful but ran out fast ships needed proper energy weapons all over the ship for maximum protection like destiny also wouldnt hurt to make special fighters to combat wraith darts

    • @Connor.SG-1Ring
      @Connor.SG-1Ring 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The ships are equipped with pulse weapons that fire yellow energy bolts, as shown in the battle of Asuras.

  • @simondj8572
    @simondj8572 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They missed badly on that time, cause either writers of show did not bother or they could not afford a better script with decent SGI effects, after this scene I was quite disappointed, too many opportunities they left over for the sake of cheap show.

  • @허니땅콩
    @허니땅콩 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

  • @michaeljolley2938
    @michaeljolley2938 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My question is the ancients were so advanced but only offensive weapons were drones no other weapons no auto cannons for taking out fighters no other long range weapons against ships what do they do when they run out of drones. More advanced than the wraith but the wraith can fire a barrage of energy blasts at multiple targets

    • @Connor.SG-1Ring
      @Connor.SG-1Ring 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Those battleships are equipped with pulse weapons that fire yellow energy bolts, as demonstrated in the battle of Asuras.

  • @AaronLongstreth-b9p
    @AaronLongstreth-b9p 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a flop of a video. If you're going to put out stargate content, I suggest watching the series FIRST.

  • @bradmullaerialphotography
    @bradmullaerialphotography 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ha ha ha millennials, it’s how I measure time