With normal ccu’ing (cross chassis upgrading) you just trade your $50 ship for a pricier one by paying the difference, either with new $ or using store credit. Example, you want a new $200 ship that just launched, then spend $150 difference and it’s yours. However, “playing the ccu game” is basically doing lots of small incremental upgrades instead of a big $150 jump, but more important is waiting for those incremental upgrades to be heavily discounted during special events like citcon, holiday promos, IAE, etc. So a random $75 ship might have a Xmas promo for $55 which means you can snag it for $5 to close an upgrade gap that’s normally $25. These cheap upgrades are called “warbond ccus” because you need to spend $5 fresh money, not store credit. Now keep repeatedly closing/bridging the gaps with more warbond ccus until you arrive at the ultimate end goal ship you want. Some parts of your “chain” may not perfectly allow a discounted warbond ccu to fit, so you close those gaps with store credit to complete the entire shebang. Mastering the ccu game with planning, patience and timing can cumulatively shave a whole 90% off ships that normally cost many hundreds.
Best bet is to watch my CCU master class video. It goes pretty in depth. Text is not the right medium to explain the CCU game lol. th-cam.com/video/ujaDNyNablM/w-d-xo.html
I did not. I rarely delete comments. Is it the long one up above or another one? Maybe some sort of banned word or something? I only use the oob function from TH-cam for that stuff
@@Zi-TekGaming it was a reply in this thread explaining ccu game basics to @hitsugaea, which is why utube notified me that your reply was added below it, but now I see my reply has disappeared
@@Zi-TekGaming I still think having LTI on at least one of your ships is a must have once insurance is put in game that way you don’t have to worry about sitting around doing nothing
I hope this isn't the case. It's not a good thing to create a new version, at least without giving a free CCU from the old to the new. I think it they give those out I won't mind too much though. In fact, they should automatically send those out to people that have any MKI version. The thing is, making a new ship gives them more $$ and reworking an old ship doesn't. I hate saying that because there are some ships that need a total rework. So hopefully the CCU thing is an auto option in the future.
Refrain from buying more concept ships; it's reported that CIG has a 35-year backlog to work through. Credibility concerns have surfaced regarding CIG, and a developer on Spectrum noted that concept ships are speculative and their inclusion in the game isn't assured. After facing customer backlash over allegations of advertising fraud against Chris Roberts, CIG withdrew their statement. It's advised not to trust Chris Roberts due to tendencies to nerf ships, potentially to boost sales of newly released ships.
Saving $25 if you bought a 5 dollar concept CCU for the Zeus seems decent enough but it doesn't really create any new best chains for me. I guess it's also not as good as the Vulture's $35 savings going from concept to the same $175 price point.
I can’t even get into the PU. It just errors. I can get into arena commander and it’s full of people that also can’t launch the PU🙄. Anyone know of a work around?
So if you want lti and warbond money with using store credit inbetween you would: Buy a lti token Store credit to 1 below a warbound then you could use store credit to the next 1 below and new money to warbound etc etc.. Am I thinking of this right?
Text is a terrible medium for explaining the CCU game. You may be right but this is the way I look at it. Buy LTI token, or get a referral reward, then buy all the chain links you can on your way to the final ship. When the chain is nearly complete you will have $5 gaps where you can't get a warbond discount to that link. Just use store credit or buy those $5 links when you are ready to actually start applying those links to build your ship. Im going to do a referral reward how to as a separate video. I think it will help people understand it better.
Two videos to help you understand the CCU game in depth: CCU Game Masterclass: th-cam.com/video/ujaDNyNablM/w-d-xo.html Getting Referral Rewards: th-cam.com/video/SFV08mt8M8s/w-d-xo.html
It can be but here's the thing. Use the CCUgame app. It takes most of the guess work out for you. It even tells you if a new WB CCU fits into your saved chain.
Although inflation could play a role in any business, especially right now, the price increase for the Zeus was expected because they always increase the price of a ship when it releases into production.
Concept ship prices have always been cheaper than release prices. Since day one I believe. So nothing to do with inflation. However you can be sure that a ship does in fact cost more to design and build now due to a genuine increase in wages in the last ten years and the fact that they are often built by a whole team in order to incorporate all the functionality they now require to work in the game. As opposed to how they were with no components. But haters are going to hate aren’t they ?
Do you still have to wait for the next patch in order to get weapons reurned immediately?.... ships are returned upon claiming it should you die in game...what about the weapons included/bought, should you buy a ship?
I have a warbond titan package that I bought back in 19'.... I see that they have the same pack but for lower.... Can I trade it or ccu it to that new one? This is a serious question....
No, you can't melt it and rebuy since it is warbond. This is a tactic for bringing new money to the project. Unfortunately CIG has a tendency to do this a lot
Negative. For a warbond game package you would need to spend new cash to buy it outright. Even if you had an old Aurora game pack, you could upgrade to the titan from it, but it wouldn't be the Titan game pack after the upgrade. Only the ships are upgradable. If you want the new game pack buy it outright. Then turn your other titan into store credit or CCU it to another ship. Not ideal but an option.
You can buy the new one for cheaper and melt the first one, thus freeing up store credit. If you got it at 70$ initially, you can basically get your same starter package and a 25% discount on 70$ of store credit. But your account spend would be at 126$, for example. And if you use it as an upgrade start you get to use base price (60$) rather than 56$ so a baked in 4$ discount if ccu chaining up. The other option (Zi Tek just put out a referral reward video) is that if you make a 2nd account with your main as referring, buy the package on 2nd account, you can get a referral bonus which can be enticing. But there's no way to discount your already purchased ship.
If you are playing the game for more than 2 years after launch, you'll have more than enough UEC to buy other ships or pay the insurance for another 2 years - there is literally no reason to worry about LTI, anything over 12 month insurance is absolutely just as good.
Appreciate you posting these. Keeps me in the loop to check for CCU’s. 👌
Will do!
My man, already on it!
Always...ish!
best thing I did was to get a Razor to Zeus MkII CL CCU, spent US$5 saved 25(CCU price went up to US$30), working on that one right now!
Nice buy!
you da man, thanks as always.
You bet
Man that was a shocking fast turnaround on that video. I just got my game updated after dinner and BOOM! Warbond Video!
Nice!
When they release at night I don't have work getting in the way!
Good advice on avoiding the Hornet Mk I as a CCU step if you don't have it already.
I try to make that clear every time it shows up!
Thanks got a few prospect to cl
The ES concepted for $135, now $175.
I thought they may have been different prices originally. Thanks!
Hope to see some more warbonds offer before the end of citizencon (or new ships maybe?)
New ships are likely, at least announcing them, not releasing. Though anything is possible.
Love your vids man, super helpful 👌
Thanks! Glad they help.
After watching your video, I have bought the upgrade path from the Prospector to the Zeus Mk II CL... and then I'll see how cheap I can make it.
Fantastic!
What are the basics of ccu? I have only ever upgraded my initial pledge ship ! How does this work ? I feel like I could be saving a lot more
With normal ccu’ing (cross chassis upgrading) you just trade your $50 ship for a pricier one by paying the difference, either with new $ or using store credit. Example, you want a new $200 ship that just launched, then spend $150 difference and it’s yours. However, “playing the ccu game” is basically doing lots of small incremental upgrades instead of a big $150 jump, but more important is waiting for those incremental upgrades to be heavily discounted during special events like citcon, holiday promos, IAE, etc. So a random $75 ship might have a Xmas promo for $55 which means you can snag it for $5 to close an upgrade gap that’s normally $25. These cheap upgrades are called “warbond ccus” because you need to spend $5 fresh money, not store credit. Now keep repeatedly closing/bridging the gaps with more warbond ccus until you arrive at the ultimate end goal ship you want. Some parts of your “chain” may not perfectly allow a discounted warbond ccu to fit, so you close those gaps with store credit to complete the entire shebang. Mastering the ccu game with planning, patience and timing can cumulatively shave a whole 90% off ships that normally cost many hundreds.
Best bet is to watch my CCU master class video. It goes pretty in depth. Text is not the right medium to explain the CCU game lol.
th-cam.com/video/ujaDNyNablM/w-d-xo.html
@@Zi-TekGaming did you delete my comment? 🤔
I did not. I rarely delete comments. Is it the long one up above or another one? Maybe some sort of banned word or something? I only use the oob function from TH-cam for that stuff
@@Zi-TekGaming it was a reply in this thread explaining ccu game basics to @hitsugaea, which is why utube notified me that your reply was added below it, but now I see my reply has disappeared
Hoverquad not available in store, but available as citizencon referral bonus. Probably those two are related
That makes sense. totally forgot about that!
Even if your game package doesn’t have LTI. As long as you have another ship with it. You’ll still be able to play the game.
LTI is not a requirement, you're right.
@@Zi-TekGaming I still think having LTI on at least one of your ships is a must have once insurance is put in game that way you don’t have to worry about sitting around doing nothing
I see what you're saying. Makes sense.
YEAH! 25$! Concepts are so worth!
Indeed!
The Zeus
Ahem....MKII
@@Zi-TekGaming I feel like all ships will be mk2 by the time it releases
I hope this isn't the case. It's not a good thing to create a new version, at least without giving a free CCU from the old to the new. I think it they give those out I won't mind too much though. In fact, they should automatically send those out to people that have any MKI version.
The thing is, making a new ship gives them more $$ and reworking an old ship doesn't. I hate saying that because there are some ships that need a total rework. So hopefully the CCU thing is an auto option in the future.
@@Zi-TekGaming most people are fine with them doing what they're doing but not at the backers expense
Agreed. The free CCU from MKI to the MKII for these goes a long way. Just wish it was automatically.
Refrain from buying more concept ships; it's reported that CIG has a 35-year backlog to work through. Credibility concerns have surfaced regarding CIG, and a developer on Spectrum noted that concept ships are speculative and their inclusion in the game isn't assured. After facing customer backlash over allegations of advertising fraud against Chris Roberts, CIG withdrew their statement. It's advised not to trust Chris Roberts due to tendencies to nerf ships, potentially to boost sales of newly released ships.
I dont disagree about the concept ship issue btu I do think using CCUs of concept ships to get where you want to be is just fine.
Non-warbonds rarely if ever have lti, because CIG gets nothing from your store credit, and they use the lifetime to sweeten the deals.
This is right. I can't recall any non-warbond that had LTI. Probably some of the pre-2016 possibilities may have I suppose.
Thanks you Zi-Tek o7
Welcome!
Saving $25 if you bought a 5 dollar concept CCU for the Zeus seems decent enough but it doesn't really create any new best chains for me. I guess it's also not as good as the Vulture's $35 savings going from concept to the same $175 price point.
Sometimes that's the way it works out. But think about other chains as well!
I can’t even get into the PU. It just errors. I can get into arena commander and it’s full of people that also can’t launch the PU🙄. Anyone know of a work around?
It's bugged for a few reasons. Mainly citcon and the patch. Basically wait at this point.
So if you want lti and warbond money with using store credit inbetween you would:
Buy a lti token
Store credit to 1 below a warbound then you could use store credit to the next 1 below and new money to warbound etc etc..
Am I thinking of this right?
Text is a terrible medium for explaining the CCU game.
You may be right but this is the way I look at it.
Buy LTI token, or get a referral reward, then buy all the chain links you can on your way to the final ship. When the chain is nearly complete you will have $5 gaps where you can't get a warbond discount to that link. Just use store credit or buy those $5 links when you are ready to actually start applying those links to build your ship.
Im going to do a referral reward how to as a separate video. I think it will help people understand it better.
Two videos to help you understand the CCU game in depth:
CCU Game Masterclass: th-cam.com/video/ujaDNyNablM/w-d-xo.html
Getting Referral Rewards: th-cam.com/video/SFV08mt8M8s/w-d-xo.html
Why the prospector? It was on discount last year during IAE, so it is unlikely to see it again this year on discount, or any time soon
It's the cheapest, and it's had lots of warbond CCU available. So it's a higher chance of returning and it's likely people have it already
@@Zi-TekGaming thanks, sounds reasonable. I'm trying my first CCU chain for the Zeus and this speculative nature is tricky
It can be but here's the thing. Use the CCUgame app. It takes most of the guess work out for you. It even tells you if a new WB CCU fits into your saved chain.
its more expenive now because of inflation, costs more to build the ships :)))))))) jeeeeez im so done with this cig bussiness
Although inflation could play a role in any business, especially right now, the price increase for the Zeus was expected because they always increase the price of a ship when it releases into production.
Concept ship prices have always been cheaper than release prices. Since day one I believe. So nothing to do with inflation. However you can be sure that a ship does in fact cost more to design and build now due to a genuine increase in wages in the last ten years and the fact that they are often built by a whole team in order to incorporate all the functionality they now require to work in the game. As opposed to how they were with no components.
But haters are going to hate aren’t they ?
Do you still have to wait for the next patch in order to get weapons reurned immediately?.... ships are returned upon claiming it should you die in game...what about the weapons included/bought, should you buy a ship?
That's still a work in progress from what I heard in recent dev talks. Looks like they are working on a similar system of insurance for those items .
I have a warbond titan package that I bought back in 19'....
I see that they have the same pack but for lower.... Can I trade it or ccu it to that new one?
This is a serious question....
No, you can't melt it and rebuy since it is warbond. This is a tactic for bringing new money to the project. Unfortunately CIG has a tendency to do this a lot
Negative. For a warbond game package you would need to spend new cash to buy it outright. Even if you had an old Aurora game pack, you could upgrade to the titan from it, but it wouldn't be the Titan game pack after the upgrade. Only the ships are upgradable.
If you want the new game pack buy it outright. Then turn your other titan into store credit or CCU it to another ship. Not ideal but an option.
@@Zi-TekGaming thank you for the reply... I kinda figured that was the case... Appreciate it! o7
You can buy the new one for cheaper and melt the first one, thus freeing up store credit. If you got it at 70$ initially, you can basically get your same starter package and a 25% discount on 70$ of store credit. But your account spend would be at 126$, for example. And if you use it as an upgrade start you get to use base price (60$) rather than 56$ so a baked in 4$ discount if ccu chaining up.
The other option (Zi Tek just put out a referral reward video) is that if you make a 2nd account with your main as referring, buy the package on 2nd account, you can get a referral bonus which can be enticing.
But there's no way to discount your already purchased ship.
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If you are playing the game for more than 2 years after launch, you'll have more than enough UEC to buy other ships or pay the insurance for another 2 years - there is literally no reason to worry about LTI, anything over 12 month insurance is absolutely just as good.
True, unless you have a stupid large amount of ships... allegedly...