@@mosli770 as a E63 owner i can 💯 confirm it does NOT have a torque converter! And if you dont believe me then here's what Mercedes themselves have to say on the matter on their site: "Mercedes-AMG ’s seven or nine-speed gearbox is an automatic unit, but not one with a torque converter, the speedshift MCT transmission from AMG is not a dual-clutch unit either, the Speedshift MCT unit is a multi-clutch automatic gearbox. Instead of a torque converter, like conventional automatics, it possesses a “clutch pack,” which includes multiple clutches placed together and controlled separately. It is easily differentiated from dual-clutch automatics because it has a single input shaft. It is currently available in seven-speed and nine-speed versions, these multi-clutch transmissions are usually operated in heavy-duty applications, where an optimal response is required, along with the need to handle a bundle of torque. It is important not to confuse multi-clutch gearboxes with multi-plate clutches. The latter term refers to the clutch itself, which can be engaged in a manual gearbox. Multi-clutch transmission are used by various racing cars, but also in heavy machinery. The advantage of this technical solution is using less space for something that can handle more torque and power, all with minimum slip. Reaction time is also an important characteristic, which is significantly improved when compared to a torque converter. Motorcycles are known for their use of multi-plate clutches for this particular reason. The torque and power requirements cannot be met with a conventional clutch, because it would take up too much space, when several plates that are smaller form an efficient package. The idea was to provide the fastest response time possible with the largest torque capability. A regular twin-clutch unit could not handle the level of torque developed by Mercedes-AMG’s V8 units, so this solution had to be designed to obtain maximum performance. The innovative component introduced by Mercedes-AMG’s Speedshift MCT-7 unit was a “wet start-off clutch,” which operated in a sump to aid cooling and longevity. The component has a low rotational inertia that allows quick response times, which cannot be matched by liquid-filled torque converters. MCT stands for Multi-Clutch Technology, and those clutches are the sole executors of gear changes. In the Manual mode, the gearbox managed to shift gears in just 100 milliseconds. That is incredibly fast, but the unit also had a comfort mode for day-to-day driving, as well as two sport modes. The AMG Speedshift MCT 7 unit is even lighter than the AMG Speedshift 7G-Tronic unit, which is employed in other products of this division. The MCT unit weighs 80 kilograms, and it can operate at engine speeds of up to 7,200 rpm. Only the high-performance vehicles from the AMG line have been fitted with this type of transmission."
@@Andy_T79 anyways, i OWN 2 E63 AMG both W212 modell, both with the M157 both Prefacelift and both with the 7G MCT Speedshift. My friend upgraded the clutch of his prefacelift E63 AMG with the M157. The gearbox have a wet clutch system und behind this also a converter.
🤦♂️ as an engineer of 25yrs i do all the maintenance on my E63 and S55 and I can assure you there is no torque converter under the MCT E63... unless it's invisible when i installed my long tube headers.. Go and call mercedes and try ordering the part and see what happens... they'll laugh down the phone as it simply doesn't exist! Also the whole point of a MCT unit is that it doesn't need a torque converter!
What do you mean you wouldn't give it a second look. When I see a Mercedes I look at it for a few days, if possible. Weistec definitely chose the best brand to tune.
Troy dejesu The only reasons I would is because I like to consider myself a car enthusiast and i've also lived a good portion of my life being driven around in a multitude of Mercedes.
the car was working fine at the time they handed it over. The module went out 5 minutes after I left weistec, taking all those systems with it. Once they replaced that module the next day (under warranty), everything worked fine again.
as I said in the video, the problems with the car had nothing to do with any of the work Weistec did. Buying their tuning package does not mean you lose air con and paddles; a blown module that was untouched since it left for the factory failed, and took all those systems with it. It was replaced under warranty the next day and the car is working fine now.
I loved that this showed up on my recommended again. I forgot that I used to watch this years ago hoping some day I could afford an E63. Now I'm on my 4th AMG.
My friend I grew up with had a 92 Grand Marquis that sounded EXACTLY like this car. The lower part of the cat/catback piping was rusted off, and I think the exhaust header was held on by 5 or 6 bolts...lol didn't have 850 hp though.
Weistec has the kind of vision and ambition that is rare in racing today. It is not about throwing something on your car to make it go faster, but a thoughtful, carefully engineered technology. This car will command every nerve ending to respond as your body is startled into it's seat. It moves so confidently down the track (even with three passengers) and looks so good, it seems incredible that it's only an E Class. It's no wonder they have the world's fastest and quickest AMG!
Renntech's founder, Hartmut Feyhl, only came over to the United States for one reason: to hand build AMG Hammers here. It doesn't get much more German than that. Poor example, even though you do make a valid point.
both the A/C and all controls on the steering wheel, including the paddle shifters, stopped functioning when that one module went out. The trans itself worked fine, the electronic paddle shifters just wouldn't talk to it. They replaced the one electronic part for about $50 under warranty and it was fixed.
Awesome, thank you mate for a great review of the car mate. I looked at one today and will be driving it tomorrow. Will be a change coming from a Porsche 911 997 C4 and a Bentley Flying Spur 2007 but this fits the need based on your review. Thanks again mate.
I'm working on getting the 2012 E550 with the new engine standard Twin Turbo I can't afford the AMG..lol)....after watching this video I think I need to move a little faster to getting my Twin Turbos!!! I should have never clicked on this video!!!! DAMN THAT CAR!!!
Been a hot rodder for 55 years. Have a CL 65 now I made it up to 158MPH on the way to vegas in a Ferrari 30 years ago - did not take it up to 200 cuz too much traffic only did it one time. Mostly you are limited to 120 MPH or so - every now and then on the freeway. WHERE IT IS AT is stop light to stop light. Wheel stands and Burning rubber is for chumps = all you do is lower your ET when you wheel stand or burn rubber. My CL knocks the snot out of every Mustang in the area same for anything chevy has.
wow this is literally right next to my house on the 241 at Oso and Antonio in Rancho Santa Margarita. The 241 is literally like the Autobahn, people fucking fly on that shit.
FRonTLinES10064 can't find any numbers but to be honest I'd stick with the supercharged setup. That gunfire exhaust sound with the supercharger whine is 50% of why I love this car so much
FRonTLinES10064 not surprising though since cars in UAE are all about power and straight line performance. I'm sure the twin turbo setup is more efficient. I'm just surprised Brabus hasn't done much for the SLR. They make 900 hp S classes these days
I drove a 2007 e63 and that was the first generation and man that thing was effortless.. like you are pulling away from people at 2000rpm while they are racing away at 5000rpm lol
I recently drove a 2014 E63 sport package...HOLY CRAP!! What a rocket. I have a new mistress in my life and she's a noisy, tire smokin monster that eats M5s for lunch (I drove BOTH that same Saturday afternoon, and the AMG is a much nicer car all around than the M5 -with the performance pkg in my opinion). I can't even fathom what an upgrade to that car would feel like. If I had $120K, I'd own one.
Jack Brand Hi Jack, Yes, good for me. I LOVED driving this car. I understand why grown men lust after carbon fiber, hand tuned engines, and leather seats.
Now that my raging boner is gone....who the hell CAN'T get 500whp from a ls7? That's a complete lie. I love AMG but don't try to lie to hype it up. It's already good enough to spend money you don't need to XD
numbers don't matter. If you're buying an 800 hp or whatever car, every last tenth is irrelevant, unless you're buying it to be a pure drag car, which approximately no one does. All that matters is whether or not it makes you happy when you drive it. And that's what I'm here to test.
hate to say it, but most will probably disagree with you. Overall, the impression we get is that people prefer when we mic the car so they can hear what it sounds like outside the car, rather than just inside the car through all that insulation.
7 litres this is a 5 twin turbo so it's more efficient less heavy not as smooth not as nice more maintainence in country's like the uk and Europe it's almost impossible to find parts for gm in the uk without a week wait
This is a true measurement of power,its the amount of power that reaches the rear wheels after drivetrain losses. A 505hp Z06 is 505 engine hp,at the wheels it may be only a bit over 400 rwhp (rear wheel horse power) A dyno is used to measure rwhp or awhp (all wheel horse power) in an all wheel drive car.
myusernames1967 It has nothing to do with truth. It's just a method of measuring power. And since they don't tell us what correction standard they use, we know exactly nothing about how it compares to stock. If you want a good comparison, use the SAE J1349 standard. Then you know what the engine puts out, compared to just about any car out there, except for Volvo, as they use another standard. If you make 850hp by the J507 standard compared to SAE J1349, you're only making 807.5ish hp SAE J1349. Unfortunately, a lot of tuners use the J507 correction standard, and I don't believe anyone who can't produce a J1349 document. The only two Merc tuners I know of who do, is Brabus adn Kleemann.
LongrunQBJK The SAE J1349 Certified Power is not a document. the SAE J1349 Certified Power is a standerd specifying how a manufacture should test the power and torque of an engine. Dyno rooms are different, so to make sure that things are equal, SAE International has developed a standard for what the air density (Elevation), barometric pressure, temp and other variables must be, and corrected for if not so. If for example, the temperature of a dyno room and the altitude is different than what is specified in the J1349 standard, the "raw" number of the dyno pull must then be corrected accordingly. The document I'm talking about, is simply a dynosheet verifying that the test was done in accordance with SAE J1349 Certified Power guidelines. Why I'm bringing this up, is because if what is known as the J507 Land And Sea correction standard is used, the hp number the engine puts out, will be about 5-6% higher than if corrected by the J1349 standard. I can't remember the correction factors off the top of my head, but I remember that the temperature for a J1349 test should be corrected for 70 degrees F and the J507 only for 60 degrees F. In other words, the J1349 is more conservative than the J507. Some dyno shops even just use random correction factors, which basically makes the measured power number completely useless. If you want to know more about the J1349 Certified Power and other similar standards, read this. www.sae.org/certifiedpower/details.htm
@@ElCeeKaa your "legal" work enshrines you in the hell you live, some of us fly on magic carpets to work, or close our eyes every single time we cross the street. WAKE THE FUCK UP!
After hearing a mean e63 pass me on the hwy a day after a Porshe GT3 launched from a green light I am so thankful for the wide range of engine and exhaust designs. Grumbling a and screams are both great engine notes
Merc and BMW build some of the strongest engines to date. It's the rest of the car that fails first. Transmission was the first thing to go out on my 5er.
So the air conditioning flaw was Mercedes's fault, nothing to do with the tuning, right? Funny how it stopped working right after they got it out of the shop. Could be coincidental of course, but just sayin...
If you watched the entire video he says at the end sometimes this stuff happens during tuning. Then they pulled engine codes. Turned out to be a bad CANBUS sensor, a known problem with this series of Mercedes.
the LS7 is a terrible candidate for twin turbos. The cylinder walls are too thin and can crack from boost. The 6.2L LS engines don't have that problem, which is why the Venom GT uses a Stroked LSX block not an LS7.
Pardon_M3 I know and I agree. He clearly used the parameter "stock" though, so your objection has no relevance. LS7's are capable of amazing hp and tq. That's not in question.
xebek Why would any tuner bring up what a stock engine makes at the wheels compared to a car with 15K+ into it? I honestly don't have the time to go back and watch it again
Pardon_M3 He wasn't comparing stock to tuned. He was comparing stock to stock, as in starting platforms. Ultimately, the LS7 has incredible tuning potential as well and his statement is a little misleading as a result. However, he was technically correct.
All those tuners are in Europe, and we don't have the budget to travel there. if someone, or some company, would like to sponsor a Tuned filming trip to Europe, we're more than open to suggestion, but it's just too expensive for us.
''Amgs are just how people get to work''... you see this is a huge problem ,in europe it is a crime (not literally) to use a car like that as a daily.You use an E200 not an amg.A guy online told me that USA car market doesnt have a single car less than 2500 cc,here most cars are around 1400cc.And yet some people wonder why petrol is running out faster that it should or why is there so much pollution,because 'merica
***** There are cars that have under 2500cc engines in the US. Most of the manufacturers do offer the smaller engines, but typically they're on the lowly spec'd or bottom end of the range.
Aki Kurose I was speaking with someone from the US about cars and I told him that the best car I 've driven is a C250 Coupe,which is 1.8 litre turbo (its not fast but definitely not slow) and he said that was lame and only C350 and above is fast enough and I was like ''ok whatever''.
***** The idea that there aren't cars with engines smaller than 2500cc simply isn't true, in fact, far from it. There are plenty of cars even in the sub 1600cc range.
The E63 doesn't have a torque converter. the speedshift 7-speed transmission in the AMG mercs uses a wet clutch pack system.
you also talk wet like the clutch
The E63 have a torque converter AND a wet clutch system. The MCT Speedshift gearbox have both
@@mosli770 as a E63 owner i can 💯 confirm it does NOT have a torque converter! And if you dont believe me then here's what Mercedes themselves have to say on the matter on their site: "Mercedes-AMG ’s seven or nine-speed gearbox is an automatic unit, but not one with a torque converter, the speedshift MCT transmission from AMG is not a dual-clutch unit either, the Speedshift MCT unit is a multi-clutch automatic gearbox. Instead of a torque converter, like conventional automatics, it possesses a “clutch pack,” which includes multiple clutches placed together and controlled separately. It is easily differentiated from dual-clutch automatics because it has a single input shaft. It is currently available in seven-speed and nine-speed versions, these multi-clutch transmissions are usually operated in heavy-duty applications, where an optimal response is required, along with the need to handle a bundle of torque.
It is important not to confuse multi-clutch gearboxes with multi-plate clutches. The latter term refers to the clutch itself, which can be engaged in a manual gearbox.
Multi-clutch transmission are used by various racing cars, but also in heavy machinery. The advantage of this technical solution is using less space for something that can handle more torque and power, all with minimum slip. Reaction time is also an important characteristic, which is significantly improved when compared to a torque converter.
Motorcycles are known for their use of multi-plate clutches for this particular reason. The torque and power requirements cannot be met with a conventional clutch, because it would take up too much space, when several plates that are smaller form an efficient package. The idea was to provide the fastest response time possible with the largest torque capability.
A regular twin-clutch unit could not handle the level of torque developed by Mercedes-AMG’s V8 units, so this solution had to be designed to obtain maximum performance.
The innovative component introduced by Mercedes-AMG’s Speedshift MCT-7 unit was a “wet start-off clutch,” which operated in a sump to aid cooling and longevity. The component has a low rotational inertia that allows quick response times, which cannot be matched by liquid-filled torque converters.
MCT stands for Multi-Clutch Technology, and those clutches are the sole executors of gear changes. In the Manual mode, the gearbox managed to shift gears in just 100 milliseconds. That is incredibly fast, but the unit also had a comfort mode for day-to-day driving, as well as two sport modes.
The AMG Speedshift MCT 7 unit is even lighter than the AMG Speedshift 7G-Tronic unit, which is employed in other products of this division. The MCT unit weighs 80 kilograms, and it can operate at engine speeds of up to 7,200 rpm. Only the high-performance vehicles from the AMG line have been fitted with this type of transmission."
@@Andy_T79 anyways, i OWN 2 E63 AMG both W212 modell, both with the M157 both Prefacelift and both with the 7G MCT Speedshift. My friend upgraded the clutch of his prefacelift E63 AMG with the M157. The gearbox have a wet clutch system und behind this also a converter.
🤦♂️ as an engineer of 25yrs i do all the maintenance on my E63 and S55 and I can assure you there is no torque converter under the MCT E63... unless it's invisible when i installed my long tube headers.. Go and call mercedes and try ordering the part and see what happens... they'll laugh down the phone as it simply doesn't exist! Also the whole point of a MCT unit is that it doesn't need a torque converter!
What do you mean you wouldn't give it a second look. When I see a Mercedes I look at it for a few days, if possible. Weistec definitely chose the best brand to tune.
I think he meant because they aren't all too rare, at least not in so-cal anyways.
Troy dejesu The only reasons I would is because I like to consider myself a car enthusiast and i've also lived a good portion of my life being driven around in a multitude of Mercedes.
ikr i live in africa and we got normal e300 2017s everwhere
Dream Chaser yeah well this is an AMG not an E300 lol
James Juden E63 isn’t rare? U smoking crack?
"14 miles an hour" I was actually laughing, awesome video.
I'd hate to see him hit 18 mph
much fewer cops on the toll roads. they figure if you're willing to pay, you should be granted some leeway.
the car was working fine at the time they handed it over. The module went out 5 minutes after I left weistec, taking all those systems with it. Once they replaced that module the next day (under warranty), everything worked fine again.
lmaooo
9 miles an hour, 10 miles an hour, 11 miles an hour
WOW THAT WAS 14 MILES AN HOUR!
Z33NY 😂😂😂
That's 14 =140 mph
You deciphered the code @@AndersonERockefeller, welcome the the league of ordinary gentlemen
@@AndersonERockefeller Well done captain obvious
@@AndersonERockefeller [i need more faces to palm] you a cop? 😅
This is about the nastiest AMG I have listened to and seen for a long time aaand it´s fucking awesome.
I agree. It has a nasty sound. Sounds like an old Massey Ferguson! yuk
as I said in the video, the problems with the car had nothing to do with any of the work Weistec did. Buying their tuning package does not mean you lose air con and paddles; a blown module that was untouched since it left for the factory failed, and took all those systems with it. It was replaced under warranty the next day and the car is working fine now.
Oh gee can I get laid under warranty too?
As soon as I heard that my first thought was.
"must be a blown module that is on a one wire buss"
OMG the noise this car makes!!!!!!!
Yes!!!!!
Robert Kunga
Purring lion. It has a good roar too.
Sounds like an old Massey Ferguson! Yuk
Just cute, right?
See this video:
BEST of BRABUS - 850 6.0 Biturbo, G63 6x6, CLS850, S63, E63, G800 REVS & SOUND!
Thank me later
Hellcat fan boys pissing and moaning all about this one!
I loved that this showed up on my recommended again. I forgot that I used to watch this years ago hoping some day I could afford an E63. Now I'm on my 4th AMG.
I had a '73 Caprice that ran on 7 cylinders and had a hole in the exhaust. Sounded exactly like this car.
My friend I grew up with had a 92 Grand Marquis that sounded EXACTLY like this car. The lower part of the cat/catback piping was rusted off, and I think the exhaust header was held on by 5 or 6 bolts...lol didn't have 850 hp though.
Anhöhren ist nicht das gleiche, wie LEISTUNG umsetzen. Ami´s haben großen Sound.....das wars. Bis auf srt-Viper. A B E R 8500ccm!!!! o my gott (...)
not in real life
Hahaha!!! I love quick blasts to 14 mph!
Weistec has the kind of vision and ambition that is rare in racing today. It is not about throwing something on your car to make it go faster, but a thoughtful, carefully engineered technology. This car will command every nerve ending to respond as your body is startled into it's seat. It moves so confidently down the track (even with three passengers) and looks so good, it seems incredible that it's only an E Class. It's no wonder they have the world's fastest and quickest AMG!
Matt, your job is bad-ass, keep posting great videos. Thanks!
Made my Sunday morning...beautiful beautiful car and sweet driver too!!
Renntech's founder, Hartmut Feyhl, only came over to the United States for one reason: to hand build AMG Hammers here. It doesn't get much more German than that. Poor example, even though you do make a valid point.
W212 is my favorite gen of the E-Class 👌🏼
Facelift
what is a doorbolt?
One of my favorite video from /Drive.
"14 miles an hour" lol...
I like your style ;)
both the A/C and all controls on the steering wheel, including the paddle shifters, stopped functioning when that one module went out. The trans itself worked fine, the electronic paddle shifters just wouldn't talk to it. They replaced the one electronic part for about $50 under warranty and it was fixed.
which module was it?
Thank God Matt is back!
Great combo of perfomance and design
dry ice goes directly from a solid to a gas. you need it to be in liquid form so it flows through the engine.
it was hitting redline and upshifting.
it was a segment for The Car Show. Still available on youtube.
Awesome, thank you mate for a great review of the car mate. I looked at one today and will be driving it tomorrow. Will be a change coming from a Porsche 911 997 C4 and a Bentley Flying Spur 2007 but this fits the need based on your review. Thanks again mate.
I'm working on getting the 2012 E550 with the new engine standard Twin Turbo I can't afford the AMG..lol)....after watching this video I think I need to move a little faster to getting my Twin Turbos!!!
I should have never clicked on this video!!!!
DAMN THAT CAR!!!
I have one it's such a sleeper I blow all kinds of cars away before they know what I got🤯
Been a hot rodder for 55 years. Have a CL 65 now
I made it up to 158MPH on the way to vegas in a Ferrari 30 years ago - did not take it up to 200 cuz too much traffic
only did it one time.
Mostly you are limited to 120 MPH or so - every now and then on the freeway.
WHERE IT IS AT is stop light to stop light.
Wheel stands and Burning rubber is for chumps = all you do is lower your ET when you wheel stand or burn rubber.
My CL knocks the snot out of every Mustang in the area same for anything chevy has.
Correction, you made it to 15.8 mph lol
Your AMG beats the hell out of cars half to a third of the price. We're all shocked.
pretty sure a z06 or zl1 will smack your stock cl.
Great car, great job done by Weistec and another great video by Matt. Well spent 11 minutes on the web.
ahahahahah the intro made me really laugh, Matt you're one of the very few american testers that I actually enjoy!
riite?!!! and i'm american!
Haha sick! I've did asphalt work on that road. That's Ladera Ranch. Down by Coto De Caza.
241 right by Oso and Antonio. Recognized it because I live right there haha.
"14 miles an hour" I died laughing
The review was almost as good as the car! I really like the AMG Merc’s. Review was entertaining and informative, thanks!
Thanks for the video.. Crazy car.
wow this is literally right next to my house on the 241 at Oso and Antonio in Rancho Santa Margarita. The 241 is literally like the Autobahn, people fucking fly on that shit.
Cowcamp 🤫
best intro ever
i agree, he's probably my fav us commentator on cars. Chris harris in the uk !
TV
love the sound of it
I'd never buy that car, but I enjoyed the video! Thanks for making it! :)
I went 12 mph in my 1992 Corolla once.
please live a little more.....smfh.....and keep embarrassing comments to yourself if you aren't seeking public pity...
Toyota garbage.... Is not to be mentioned here...
I spy with my little eye, an SLR with Abu Dhabi plates at 9:25
Yup you're right. It's a custom twin-turbo build for that SLR
+FRonTLinES10064 no way. any specs? I've never heard of a twin turbo SLR
+Ibraheem Hamdi Check out their website. It's a high-HP build.
FRonTLinES10064 can't find any numbers but to be honest I'd stick with the supercharged setup. That gunfire exhaust sound with the supercharger whine is 50% of why I love this car so much
FRonTLinES10064 not surprising though since cars in UAE are all about power and straight line performance. I'm sure the twin turbo setup is more efficient. I'm just surprised Brabus hasn't done much for the SLR. They make 900 hp S classes these days
That 3rd gear spin is so sick :)
This is the best looking eclass ever made.
This car has an M157.
German Engineering xD
And American tuning, this is essentially a hot-rodded merc
I've watched this video so many times!! i want one badly!
I have one and I'm saving up for the Weistec full kit!
Ahhhhhh, the beauty of German engineering! And the trademark AMG! Love those Mercedes! Could not drive a V6! Only a V8 Biturbo! 🔥
I drove a 2007 e63 and that was the first generation and man that thing was effortless.. like you are pulling away from people at 2000rpm while they are racing away at 5000rpm lol
sranjesuper dude you fucking lying, pulling on someone at 2000 rpm, you must been racing bicycles
@@dexterjsullen check the MB torque curve you fool...
Dexter He was speaking figuratively , no need to cry
I recently drove a 2014 E63 sport package...HOLY CRAP!! What a rocket. I have a new mistress in my life and she's a noisy, tire smokin monster that eats M5s for lunch (I drove BOTH that same Saturday afternoon, and the AMG is a much nicer car all around than the M5 -with the performance pkg in my opinion). I can't even fathom what an upgrade to that car would feel like. If I had $120K, I'd own one.
Jack Brand Hi Jack, Yes, good for me. I LOVED driving this car. I understand why grown men lust after carbon fiber, hand tuned engines, and leather seats.
I like the explanation of speed :)
i love this thing and the noise it makes so damn much
I actually think is sounds like an old Massey Ferguson! yuk
Now that my raging boner is gone....who the hell CAN'T get 500whp from a ls7? That's a complete lie. I love AMG but don't try to lie to hype it up. It's already good enough to spend money you don't need to XD
So did you race that 911 turbo?... ;)
I was thinking the same thing!
Eargasm! 😍🔊
I am 75 and when you guys say back in the day I just laugh. That is so funny to hear some one that is young enough to be my kid say that is a riot.
Why is this man so mad at tires?
715 at the wheels? This or Charger Hellcat ? I'll take this (;
You would also be paying 3x more than a charger hellcat...
MrClickmaster1 that's cus I'm playing for reliability. Safety, prestige, class, comfort. ...Hellcat all u get is an engine.
Your comparing apples and oranges, i would rather the merc any day but these vehicles are in different leagues
john gonzales meh not sure about the reliability part... a/c not working... paddle shifters not working...
Didn't u hear ? He said that only happend once he pulled away from the running shop!. I'd tune with brabus or renntek
Sick burnout
That's going to be for next season.
murica 14MPH hell yeah
some people have cool girlfriends who can drive... like me.
that burn out at the end was niccee
tuned returns in october
That clk black series 😭
You and your 850 BHP E63. You think you're so cool? Well... well... I'm in a 1999 Saturn pushing 82 BHP in ONE wheel, so HA!!!
That car is insane!
numbers don't matter. If you're buying an 800 hp or whatever car, every last tenth is irrelevant, unless you're buying it to be a pure drag car, which approximately no one does. All that matters is whether or not it makes you happy when you drive it. And that's what I'm here to test.
That thing would eat gt-r alive :D
stock yes boosted not a chance. That Nissan 6cyl can hold more boost.
this vs hellcat charger
hate to say it, but most will probably disagree with you. Overall, the impression we get is that people prefer when we mic the car so they can hear what it sounds like outside the car, rather than just inside the car through all that insulation.
That car is a straight BEAST! And a 4dr sedan!!!! That you can drive everyday.
The air conditioner doesnt work! Shit!
pretty sure a 7.0 GM LS can make as much or more power then this for much less money. I mention because he said it.
7 litres this is a 5 twin turbo so it's more efficient less heavy not as smooth not as nice more maintainence in country's like the uk and Europe it's almost impossible to find parts for gm in the uk without a week wait
+iCloud This engine, the M157, is a 5.5 liter Twin-turbo! Not a 5-liter!
+iCloud
You clearly like to speak out of your rear. The 7.0 is much smaller and lighter than the TT 5.5
the Chevy LS7 7.0 427 is one hell of a motor.
You could get close to 850 without a blower
That's exactly what I was saying. Hello, C6 Z06?
That sound is so mean i love it
Wait... You're from CT? hell yeah. Now we're talkin! Very inspiring.
Can someone explain what he means by 715 horsepower "at the wheel?"
This is a true measurement of power,its the amount of power that reaches the rear wheels after drivetrain losses. A 505hp Z06 is 505 engine hp,at the wheels it may be only a bit over 400 rwhp (rear wheel horse power) A dyno is used to measure rwhp or awhp (all wheel horse power) in an all wheel drive car.
myusernames1967 thanks
myusernames1967 It has nothing to do with truth. It's just a method of measuring power. And since they don't tell us what correction standard they use, we know exactly nothing about how it compares to stock. If you want a good comparison, use the SAE J1349 standard. Then you know what the engine puts out, compared to just about any car out there, except for Volvo, as they use another standard. If you make 850hp by the J507 standard compared to SAE J1349, you're only making 807.5ish hp SAE J1349. Unfortunately, a lot of tuners use the J507 correction standard, and I don't believe anyone who can't produce a J1349 document. The only two Merc tuners I know of who do, is Brabus adn Kleemann.
ABOlsen69666 dude ik u sound all smart and everything.. but english please cus most people don't know what a "J1349 document" is
LongrunQBJK The SAE J1349 Certified Power is not a document. the SAE J1349 Certified Power is a standerd specifying how a manufacture should test the power and torque of an engine. Dyno rooms are different, so to make sure that things are equal, SAE International has developed a standard for what the air density (Elevation), barometric pressure, temp and other variables must be, and corrected for if not so. If for example, the temperature of a dyno room and the altitude is different than what is specified in the J1349 standard, the "raw" number of the dyno pull must then be corrected accordingly. The document I'm talking about, is simply a dynosheet verifying that the test was done in accordance with SAE J1349 Certified Power guidelines. Why I'm bringing this up, is because if what is known as the J507 Land And Sea correction standard is used, the hp number the engine puts out, will be about 5-6% higher than if corrected by the J1349 standard. I can't remember the correction factors off the top of my head, but I remember that the temperature for a J1349 test should be corrected for 70 degrees F and the J507 only for 60 degrees F. In other words, the J1349 is more conservative than the J507. Some dyno shops even just use random correction factors, which basically makes the measured power number completely useless.
If you want to know more about the J1349 Certified Power and other similar standards, read this.
www.sae.org/certifiedpower/details.htm
Whenever I see a Mercedes ride by I'm always assuming there's going to be some 65 year old man/woman in the driver's seat. Usually I'm right.
Highest Point Mercedes are milfy cars to me.
caleb Reedy Only the SUVs
Andrew Mueller lol
Either old people, or youngsters, who don't look like they got it thru hard and legal work (usually)
@@ElCeeKaa your "legal" work enshrines you in the hell you live, some of us fly on magic carpets to work, or close our eyes every single time we cross the street.
WAKE THE FUCK UP!
After hearing a mean e63 pass me on the hwy a day after a Porshe GT3 launched from a green light I am so thankful for the wide range of engine and exhaust designs. Grumbling a and screams are both great engine notes
thats what ive been waiting for pleeaassee
how long will the AMG motor last?????
Longer than any japanese car or american muscle car
you won't have to worry about that, it's not gtr engine ...
I've got 140k+ miles on mine already.
W211 E55 AMG with M113k engine.
+wolfenheinzer my friend has w123 with more than 1M miles, still running strong.
Merc and BMW build some of the strongest engines to date. It's the rest of the car that fails first. Transmission was the first thing to go out on my 5er.
14 mph? what a liar. clearly indicated 13.1
Add a zero. He obviously doesn't want to acknowledge breaking the law.
no, i think he's actually going 14 mph and that he's being honest rather than break the law and lie.
What a symphony.. i think its gonna be my morning song
Very well put.I agree 100% I'm going to start using the ice cream analogy from now on. haha
California fuel is 91 octane?! Thats crap
Yeah man, because every single station has the same fuel!
DC5Jordan Octane booster, ese.
Can't get 500 hp n/a out of a 7.0 ls motor? What the fuck is this guy talking about...
i think he means stock 7.0 which makes 505 at the crank
LOLZ 14mph I love your understatement I speak that lingo though that car is ridiculous love it I need one
Dat sound!
This thing sounds like a tractor in low rpms... ^_^
It sounds like an old tractor at any RPM! Worse sounding V8 on the planet!
So the air conditioning flaw was Mercedes's fault, nothing to do with the tuning, right? Funny how it stopped working right after they got it out of the shop. Could be coincidental of course, but just sayin...
If you watched the entire video he says at the end sometimes this stuff happens during tuning. Then they pulled engine codes. Turned out to be a bad CANBUS sensor, a known problem with this series of Mercedes.
Chris Antcliff Yes I watched the whole video too. They didn't say anything about the paddles not working.
thatabu 3:24
the LS7 is a terrible candidate for twin turbos. The cylinder walls are too thin and can crack from boost. The 6.2L LS engines don't have that problem, which is why the Venom GT uses a Stroked LSX block not an LS7.
Love the AMG videos!
Bummer the paddles weren't working though
Did he say you can't get 500 wheel out of an LS7? #wat
Pardon_M3 He said N/A, at the wheels, stock. He's correct.
xebek You can get 500 wheel out of an LS7. Obviously not stock, but EASILY with N/A mods. You can get 600whp with NA mods.
Pardon_M3
I know and I agree. He clearly used the parameter "stock" though, so your objection has no relevance. LS7's are capable of amazing hp and tq. That's not in question.
xebek Why would any tuner bring up what a stock engine makes at the wheels compared to a car with 15K+ into it? I honestly don't have the time to go back and watch it again
Pardon_M3
He wasn't comparing stock to tuned. He was comparing stock to stock, as in starting platforms. Ultimately, the LS7 has incredible tuning potential as well and his statement is a little misleading as a result. However, he was technically correct.
You can't get 500 whp out of an LS7 with bolt ons? is that guy on crack?
Just about to post the same comment. XD
lol all the z06's out there with 500whp with boltons xD
Camaro z28 with the ls7 has 505whp without bolt-ons, its called american muscle fellas
Yeah I was like a LS won't do what? Bitch Please!!!
MUSCLECREWDave The camaro Z28 LS7 is 505whp? SO you are telling me a Z28 has 600hp now? You kids need to learn what the fuck you are talking about.
I like this dude hes from my state Connecticut. He got taste in cars like most people in my town of Greenwich
All those tuners are in Europe, and we don't have the budget to travel there. if someone, or some company, would like to sponsor a Tuned filming trip to Europe, we're more than open to suggestion, but it's just too expensive for us.
Must be annoyed that the new e class is out.
The new E-Class is not out yet, it is the updated/face lifted E Class that is out, which is part of the same generation...
1820AL Yeah, thats what I meant
Am I the only one that thinks the slightly older E class looks nicer than the facelifted one?
I think so too....More elegant in a traditional Mercedes style...
richie s I agree with you totally.
''Amgs are just how people get to work''... you see this is a huge problem ,in europe it is a crime (not literally) to use a car like that as a daily.You use an E200 not an amg.A guy online told me that USA car market doesnt have a single car less than 2500 cc,here most cars are around 1400cc.And yet some people wonder why petrol is running out faster that it should or why is there so much pollution,because 'merica
***** There are cars that have under 2500cc engines in the US. Most of the manufacturers do offer the smaller engines, but typically they're on the lowly spec'd or bottom end of the range.
Aki Kurose I was speaking with someone from the US about cars and I told him that the best car I 've driven is a C250 Coupe,which is 1.8 litre turbo (its not fast but definitely not slow) and he said that was lame and only C350 and above is fast enough and I was like ''ok whatever''.
***** Cry more you boring, milquetoast fuckup.
TranceFur soooo.... you seem to be a nice guy
***** The idea that there aren't cars with engines smaller than 2500cc simply isn't true, in fact, far from it. There are plenty of cars even in the sub 1600cc range.
omg!! This car is too good.
Huzzah! Tuned is back.