The New Heatsink Backplate From JSAUX Was NOT What I Expected...The Best/Worst ROG ALLY Backplate?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 เม.ย. 2024
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Video is not sponsored with a paid placement however they did send it over without asking me for a review. I still will mark it as a review because of my relationship with Jsaux. I have to keep it real with you guys. I PROMISED you I would never stick you with anything I wouldn't use.
This is fully me being transparent and trying to give this thing more than a fair chance. It just does not hold my expectations at all.
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Heck yeah thank you so much !!!
Thanks for the video. I had bought the Jsaux heatsink and was going to try to put it on while keeping the HandheldDIY back shell on... but it looks like the best results came from keeping the thermal pad on and not using the Jsaux heat sink.... that's a surprise to me!
Handy DIY mod is the best😊. Basically night and day I can hear my games without the ROG screaming at me
Even if you can keep it from leaking out from underneath the heatsink, the biggest problem with the liquid metal is that it eventually alloys itself with the metal of the heatsink and turns it to crap. It's similar to the effect of mercury coming into contact with aluminum. It eventually alloys with the aluminum and the aluminum becomes incredibly brittle and just crumbles. I don't know exactly what it does to copper, but you can see in the one picture you put up where it alloyed there too. You'll eventually end up needing to replace the heatsink either way. It's really interesting stuff and incredibly good as a thermal interface material. It's the best thing out there if your thing is putting up crazy OC numbers, but just not worth the trouble it brings if you want to use it as a long term solution since you'll be forced to replace the cooler at some point when the liquid metal alloys the cooler block.
As for that heatsink, I have some double sided thermal tape that would work really well for that kind of thing. But once it sets, you're probably not getting it back off that heatpipe without mangling that heatpipe. The stuff sticks almost like epoxy after it has been through a few thermal cycles. But I don't think I would bother with it. The HandheldDIY backplate has been great as far as I'm concerned.
Check out the video I just dropped. It goes over it in detail with 2280 options and current fitment issues
Great video! I appreciate you going into the detail about the heatsync - astute find indeed seeing it wasn’t staying fastened as it should due to insufficient pressure. I always appreciate the informative perspective on your videos.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you brudduh ❤️🤠
I got this a few days ago! Didn’t do any dedicated tests but definitely brought down the temps below 80 when I was getting 90 before hand! Mine didn’t flop out of place. The thermal pads stick in place pretty solid . Maybe you just got a bad one. I’m enjoying the product .
Watch the video I just dropped. It may give more insight
I just ordered it because of what you posted
was kinda hoping this wouldve been a good product when I saw that thermal plate. lol maybe they'll make another revision with a more active cooling design.
@21:20 thermal saturation is what you are looking for.
Can you use one of those cell phone coolers right in the middle of the back there...love to know if it helps!! I've get a heatsink on my ally about like the jsaux but smaller, but wondered if you see any difference..I use a cooler on mine and 10w mode , always seen 38degrees my lowest, after running my cell phone cooler I seen 34,35 degrees, I've seen 33degrees on it b4 too, just wonder if I can make it a little better..thinner thermal pad and remove the black plastic? I love how it runs ..
A combination of both the vent that came in with the back plate J whatever it’s called and the last one tested would have been a good idea as it would have helped cool both passively through the added heatsink and the metal vent on the actual backplate
The reason I picked the jsaux clear back over the handhelddiy was because the bottom edge on my diy shell was sharp and dug into my palms. The jsaux isnt perfect either though.
I’d contact handhelddiy and have them swap it out. Tell them I sent you.
Thanks another great One. Maybe another video would be a 2080 inside, with better thicker thermal pads on the jasux heatsink. Wonder what the temps would be...
I mentioned that it would be impossible to use a 2280 with this heatsink. I also mentioned I normally use a heatsink and a 2280 drive on the handheld diy backplate. 1000% watch that video because you’ll see the optimal configuration
@@cppctek whoops yep you did that! Thanks for clearing that up... Although if anyone could make it fit it would be you 😜 again thanks for all the hard work your videos are always thorough.
Is it possible to buy a thermal pad as thick as the one handheldDIY provided with their back cover? I goofed and bought that thermal plate from jsaux which I didn't know they sold by itself which is good because I already have the back plate but you stated that you need to add pressure to it so it won't move so I wanna experiment try something similar to what you did👍🏾
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Thanks for the video testing bruv. Do you then recommend the purple backplate with the headpad?
Indeed. The purp is way better in many ways overall
How about try to do some combination with the Jsaux heatsink and handheldDIY backplate? I'm really curious about the temperature will be lower or no change. Please test it, thanks.
Would require a lot of cutting on the handhedldiy backplate to fit and also you can’t use a 2280 which is primarily what I use. The temps on the handheld diy backplate are already epic when gaming. Max temps I see are around 60-70c at full 30w manual with alll boost enabled using the handhelddiy backplate
i made me own with same back plate and a gigabyte heatsink and some serious thermal pads....... works a treat! max CPU with CPU boost on is 84c, never seen the GPU over 66c hahaha.
When gaming at 30w I’m around 60-65c with boost on with my daily driver config but when you run cinebench it pushes the cpu to the max and you can see later in the video the results of 3 dif configs.
It works with the 2280 angled adapter, just remove the heatsink from the ssd and modify the thermal pad so it sits nice on the ssd and on the cpu heatpipe, easy.
Yes but not for every nvme drive and also there are some caveats. I put an update video after this you should watch and make sure you don’t notice those things.
Hey CPPC, have you found a way to use the 2230 chonky heatsink with the handheld DIY backplate? I wasn't able to put the backplate on with the heatsink and wondered if you had more luck?
Yes actually drop by the discord and ping me and I’ll show you
Great video but I'm sticking with handheld DIY but the only regret I have with them I went with the white one I'm going to order the see through clear one
Handhelddiy is far better anyways as the video comes to the conclusion of and testing data proves it
What about both combined? Jsaux heatsink with handheld diy backplate? Surely it would conduct heat away from the cpu better than the massively chonky thermal pad. Love the video’s
It won’t fit. I tried. There’s gunna need to be some cutting done on the handheld diy backplate. Plus the temps with the hhdiy are 60-70c when gaming at full power. And I need that 2280 support. I’ll try it on the next video since I’ve had people ask tho
@@cppctek I rock the 2280 mod as well with the ekwb nvme heatsink as well. Just ordered a handheld diy backplate. Will take 10 years to get to my neck of the woods. I was tempted to try mounting a low profile noctua cpu cooler directly to the APU but I can’t justify cutting up the only rear casing I have for the ally. Keep up the awesome content man really stoaked to have found your channel.
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Does handheldDIY sell the metal plate on its own that can be attached/modded to the original backplate as i dont need a transparent back since i use a full cover grip case
No it’s riveted to the backplate but if you went a white oem+ looking one you can get it on their website and even use my code cppctek to save a few bucks.
Also you can still use grips and grip cases on the handhelddiy backplates too since it’s the same dimensions 1:1
Now put the heat sink in, and put the handheld DIY back on with the thermal pad bridging the two metal components for pressure.
Check the discord. I did. It’s not worth it so far. Requires lots of cutting
Hello, How does your Ally reach 53 watts? I have mine exactly as yours and followed the same setting you did on manual mode. Am I missing something? at most I could reach is 23ish. Thank you :)
Are you plugged in ? Do you see the 30w turbo option in the pop up options menu ?
@@cppctek Yes. I have the 120W Anker GanPrime and it does give me manual 53w. All maxed out.
If you’re only seeing 23 it’s one of two things. Either the game you play isn’t needing anymore, cpu boost is disabled or there’s potentially thermal limits being hit and it can’t boost that high. What id do is open cinebench, plug in and set to 30w turbo, run the test. Drop in my discord and show me what your results are. Also time spy is another good test if you have it. That way I can gauge and see if your having some performance loss some where. I use also hwinfo to monitor and log temps in background while running benchmarks and it will even tell you if your thermally throttling. Open it and check box for sensors only if it’s the first time using it
@@cppctek Hi, CPU boost is enabled. Also I meant I did exactly like the cinebench HWInfo just as your video. That's why I asked initially on how come your's boosted to 53w :)
It looks like you have been mounting a semiconducting cooler to the back. It's something I tried but think the dust cover stops it from doing anything. Also that it needed something like this heatsink to make the contact it would need
I’ve tested a few coolers on the backplate. The handhelddiy one works the best since it’s actually got metal on the backplate and the thermal pad does transfer heat as you can see in the benchmarks I’ve shown later in the video. I strongly recommend it.
What if you used the Heatsink from Jsaux with a modified pad from HandheldDIY to make it thinner and the backplate of HandheldDIY. would that be the ultimate setup?
Too many clearance issues. Would require goood bit of cutting of the hhdiy backplate to make it work by the looks of it. Plus still would need thermal pad and then it also prevents the use of a 2280 nvme which was the bigger drawback for me and many. I think what would work though is possibly getting a bandsaw and hacking this thing in half length wise and making room for the nvme and then it might serve some purpose but minimal I’d assume. I may test it if I get a bandsaw
@@cppctek sounds like a fun and interesting experiment
have an ignorant/wierd question. judging by your content hopefully you or your community can help. so i noticed previously if i set up a custom fan curve on armory crate it then provides a additional option within the command center (manual with sliders). but if i dont ever create a custom that never shows up which i prefer(just shows 10,15,25) is there a way for me to disable it showing up in command center? removing the custom doesnt change it. as soon as a custom is created those sliders are permently there. not looking to uninstall/ reinstall cuz it will delete my controller layouts. I want to use a custom curve for testing a couple games on 30 watt but i dont want to permently have one more option to scroll through just to test a couple games.
Drop by the discord. Either I or one of the bros can make you a quick video on how to set a proper fan curve up
@@cppctek ill try and join the group. not looking for help setting up fan curve though. just a way to disable it from command center. disabling it in armory crate doesnt remove manual from command center.
Your videos are golden nuggets in my pocket.😂
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Whats the device setting on top of your hub on the left?
The nvme enclosure? It’s just a 2230 enclosure.
@@cppctek Crazy, looks like something cool i could use for a cyberdeck. thanks man
love the vids!
Do you advise me to buy a heat sink? Yes or no? Please reply
Heatsink for the nvme ? What backplate do you currently have ? What kind of drive do you have.
Awesome vid I guess I would have never known that thing wasn’t so good it’s very counterintuitive 😅
Thank you! I know you could feel my hope
And excitement at the start. I tried so hard to
Give it every advantage possible. Handhelddiy still wins
@@cppctek Sure! Looking forward to more vids like these!
Disappointing product, the stickiness IMO isn't a big issue, because I don't expect much from thermal putty. But the lack of force pushing the plate is.
I got their backplate and I like it, this feels like a half-baked product.
I think just ordering a big, thick piece of good quality thermal putty is a better idea and could net you better temps too (there's an idea for a follow up video!).
Please give rating which one is good ??
the handhelddiy model is the best. I would not buy the jsaux. if you watch the video you will see which one is good.
So you're saying that its impossibile using a 2280 L shape adapter with this heatsink?
I just tested it. There’s a way to
Make it work but you won’t have contact with the the apu heat pipe at all so it defeats the purpose of the entire thing unless you add more thermal pads to make it work on the apu heat pipe also.
Update ^
I order mine, I will try once I'll get it
It is funny that you put the wrong backplate back down because they're so similar except for the button on the RGB one lmao, wonder if that's why it wasn't fully sitting in place since you used the wrong backplate
The jsaux backplates are identical brother
If you don’t believe me. Dm me on discord I’ll break out my dial calipers and laser measure the entire thing and every single clip and every single point on both!
i can confirm what he says is true people. NO TURD IN MY POCKET HERE....lol as usual, great content brotha
thers a screw at the top... prety shure that Will help to good It in place
Nope there’s no screw hole actually and there’s only a huge spot where the stand off goes right through. Zero and I mean zero pressure is applied when all screws are tight. Zero bud. Zero
11:56 you can clearly see me screwing in all the screws. There’s no where else for screws to go. Trust me on that. I made perfectly sure not to miss that detail because surely it would trigger people.
Just get to the point. The added clips are annoying AF!
A lot of people come here for the memes
"On the inside is what really counts"... is this a shot at synthetics???
lol
Caveat!
def has a few
@@cppctek You say it in every video 🤣
@ksrnate it’s a nice word and fortunately since nearly every product has one I get to be sure to mention that lol.
the smacking is to much for me please drink water...
lol water is all I drink. I was being goofy.
Hey brother can you just tell me what cooling back plate to get. I don’t wanna fuck up my device. I really want to take good care of it. What one do I buy
My fav one is the handhelddiy brand.
@@cppctek awesome I’m gonna check it out. I don’t know anything about any of this, never had a gaming pc before. I got the Ally to replace my switch. It it difficult to replace parts myself? I want to put a 2TB internal SSD in, is that difficult to do? I don’t want to fuck anything up. Also installing this heat sink, if I am careful and watch tutorials do you think I could do it on my own? Or should I take it to someone with experience
@@cppctek I’m gonna order the handhelddiy on Amazon, is there any way I can support you? Is there an affiliate link to order it?
@beauhendershot8920 it’s pretty easy. I’ve got a good bit of videos covering a lot of mods and some of the videos you may have to dig around to find the details but the hhdiy backplate a very easy mod to do and very safe. Drops temps and improves lifespan having lower temps and looks better too. I’ve done videos on the hhdiy backplate you should go watch and you will find them very useful
@@cppctek perfect. You’re awesome man. Do you have any tutorials on how to adjust the settings? I’ve read that there are lots of different modes and setting to tweak to make it run differently. Is that a complicated process? I don’t want it running on supercharged mode all the time lmfao. Most the games I’m gonna play aren’t gonna need super high settings.