also the torque specifications are important. Someone somewhere when the car was designed did a lot of math to be sure they are correct and then after years someone user like us going to the service and in the service someone "mechanic" with a lot of "knowledge" decide to tighten the bolt by sense. Really annoyed by this type of "mechanics". Thank to this guy for doing the things the way they should be done!
Thanks for sharing this. Quick question - do you have video on replacing front lower (rear) control arm as well. And are the torque settings around the same for the front lower (rear side) control arm?
Great video! ive got an super annoying clunking sound on my 2015 a4 allroad from left front suspension. Ive changed top strut bearing, swaybar link, checked all rubber bearings but cant find the problem. Its when i go over small uneven stuffs it feels like something is bouncing super quick and short, i feel it in my left leg that its 100% coming from the suspension... maybe control arms should be replaced
Wow I can't believe my Genesis g80 has the same exact suspension set up. Thought I had warped rotors from vibration and shudder but low and behold it was bad control arm bushings, and the ball joint was really bad.
Thx for this valuable info I was concerned this would be a hard job to do but it's simple and easy to do (gotta give it to the engineer who designed this sh easy to access)
Awesome video, but I did both on my S5 and it’s not as easy as it looks lol. Took me about 3 hours each side because the damn suspension would move forward when control arm is off.
Put the control arm in balljoint first and install the holding bolt so it doesn't slip back out. Do not tighten it yet. Then use a mallet or hammer to get it in position in the rear where it connects to the subframe. Then use a pin punch to line the holes up. Leave the punch in place. Put the bolt in from the other side and tap through with a hammer. You will see as the bolt displaces the punch as in pushes it back out the other side that your life will be much easier. You can also use another floor jack under the suspension to reposition it as needed.
Great video. I’m looking to change my control arms for my Audi A4 b8 but not sure where should I order them from. Can you recommend a specific website where I can get them. Thank you.
Excellent tutorial. Just wondering my local indie changed my lower rearward control arm but tightened it while the suspension was still jacked up. Its been a while now (6+months) with the corona virus and all. was wondering if its worth loosening it and tightening it properly or just leave it and hope it doesnt fail early.
If he did not torque the bolts with the suspension at ride height, you can have that corrected when you take your car in for an alignment. They should be able to loosen and retorque the bolts with the car on the alignment rack. Not doing this step { Compressing the suspension. } before tightening the bolts to spec will cause premature bushing wear. If you are a DIY type of person, you can just do what he did in the video with jack stands and floor jacks. But this is important to do and should not be skipped. Or you'll just be doing this job again in a month or two.
@@snapdragogon69 Just to update, I ended up having to replace it again. The bushing was totally worn and the car started making knocking noises shortly after my initial comment it think. The garage refused to repair and claimed he’d been doing that for years and never had a problem.
Hello MOT fail on my 2008 Audi A6 2.0 TDI LV58HCZ Mechanic told me i need to order Front Right Upper foremost arm Upper rearmost arm (So both top arms) Can you please help which are the rights arms to buy
Hello, you need to know if your car has a sports suspension or all-wheel drive. Find the website and select the details. I can’t do it for you, since there is no A6 with 2.0 TDI in Canada.
Hi there! I have question . I hace a audi q5 2012 and when I turn the steering wheel when reverse , it vibrates a lot. Do you think if I change the lower arm of front suspension, it would fix the issue?
To remove ball joint you will need ball joint separator www.amazon.ca/dp/B002INTDSM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_o9jMFb4ESNKK5 I think you can remove ball joint without removing control arm. But in my case ball joint was fine and control arms bushings was bad. I replaced all together as car had over 200 000 km. I guess you have same problem.
Yes you will need to remove the control arm to replace the ball joint. If the joint is worn, good chance both ball joint and control arm are on their way out. Best to replace both at the same time, both sides and save yourself the misery of having to do this job repeatedly.
Hi, this is could be ball joint only if it has broken dust cover and ball joint doesn't have grease any more. How you describe, this is more likely strut dust cover or upper arms mounts worn out. Check out this video th-cam.com/video/g7GtQ4tDyj0/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for watching! I don't get the question, where is this size from? Here is the link on ball joints www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/audi,2008,a5,3.2l+v6,1441571,suspension,ball+joint,10070
great video Can I ask please ,I keep getting a knocking when passing over speed ramps and general local driving Is it likely that its this thats making the knocking? Thank you Julian
I would check sway bar link and bushings, also very often on this models front shock mounts making knocking sound. Very rare ball joints making knocking sound on A5.
Hello, did you solve this issue? How did you done, which part did you replace? I have already replace the upper control bars and the “crack” noise continues. Thank you
Tell me please! I have exactly sound from minute 5:57 when driving on rough roads ! What was the source? A bolt which is not completely tight, or you hit the thermic protection?
I’m doing the passengers side on a 2014 a5. The mounting bolt seems to be catching on the u-joint for the steering linkage. Any advice for getting it out, or do I just need to get a bigger hammer?
You can try to put jack stand under control arm and lowe the car to release pressure from bolt or just try to wiggle it. But maybe I didn't understand the question. U-joint for steering linkage on a passenger side?
I had to beat the crap out of the lower arm joint to get it in.. also switch the very left tripplestar bolt so the head is facing right, it will make your life easier next time. Last tip is to beat the heatsield from the way with hammer handle.
Did anyone fix a creaking/knocking sound by swapping out the lower control arm? Hearing it slightly at slow speeds on bumps and when starting/stopping sometimes.
@@ccflan I'm yet to take it to a garage but its pretty noticeable under 30mph on uneven surfaces now. Is yours similar? Mine almost sounds like its from the back of the vehicle sometimes.
@@RoxusRemo lol definitely the same, it hears like it comes from he back but when you open your door window you'll hear it from the front, I think this is due to the sound isolation between the motor and the car's cabinet, anyway I took the ar to some mechanics here in Morocco and they told me that this is a silentbloc issue and at a high mileage like 200K kilometers you may change it multiple time depending on the roads you step in, it actually because that sound that comes from the back that i changed all the suspensions in the back but nothing noticeable lol!
@@mikes.garage Болты и гайки из нержавейки не делают,так-как нержавейка склонна к самооткручиванию.Обычно их защищают гальванопокрытием.Прикипают болты внутри втулок и гайки по резьбовому пятну контакта из-за воздействия наружной среды.Смазка от этого предохраняет.ИМХО.
NEVER tighten the wheel screws directly with the impact driver! NEVER! Firstly you screw a couple of turns WITH THE HAND! Is a big mistake, hope it helps!
Another awesome DIY for Audi B8 control arms. I have watched your other video for the 2 upper control arms :). May I ask why you replaced this lower control arm. I will be replacing the 2 upper control arms soon and thinking if I should replace this lower at same time. Was the bushes damaged on the lower arm and what was the symptoms on the road :)
The car did not move steadily, as if it were floating on the road. That's why it was replaced. The bushings on lower control arms was worn out completely. The lower control arms responsible for responding of the car. So if you thinking to replace upper arms I would replace lower arms as well. Anyway, why do you think you need to replace upper arms?
@@mikes.garage Thanks for replying Mike. The previous MOT shows advisory front upper control arm worn. I inspected it before purchase and did notice 1 cracked so negotiated parts money for the 4 shocks and upper control arms. There is no noise when turning but minor squeak when going over rough roads. Would these lower bushes cause these squeaks?
Squeaking more likely upper control arms, but this is not big deal. I don't think you must replace them, only if you want to do it. Is the shock absorbers leaks? If not do not replace them.
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This is how an instructional video should be! Straight to the point, lots of fast forward. good information about tool types and sizes. Thank you!
Thank you for your review!
also the torque specifications are important. Someone somewhere when the car was designed did a lot of math to be sure they are correct and then after years someone user like us going to the service and in the service someone "mechanic" with a lot of "knowledge" decide to tighten the bolt by sense. Really annoyed by this type of "mechanics". Thank to this guy for doing the things the way they should be done!
Thanks so much your video helped me out a lot today to get the job done! 🙌🏼
Thank you for watching!
Great video, thank you !!! Can anyone please tell me where to find at which torque the control arms have to be screwed ? thank you
Thanks for sharing this. Quick question - do you have video on replacing front lower (rear) control arm as well. And are the torque settings around the same for the front lower (rear side) control arm?
Thank you for watching! No, I don't have rear and torque specs are different.
Tighten bolts at ride height and weight to prevent twisting of bushings and premature failure.
Correct ☺️
Great video! ive got an super annoying clunking sound on my 2015 a4 allroad from left front suspension. Ive changed top strut bearing, swaybar link, checked all rubber bearings but cant find the problem. Its when i go over small uneven stuffs it feels like something is bouncing super quick and short, i feel it in my left leg that its 100% coming from the suspension... maybe control arms should be replaced
Thank you for watching! Yes, this is could be lower control arm
Wow I can't believe my Genesis g80 has the same exact suspension set up. Thought I had warped rotors from vibration and shudder but low and behold it was bad control arm bushings, and the ball joint was really bad.
good video straight and to the point no messing
Thank you for watching! 🙂
Wat a detailed to the point video i love this
Thank you!
Great video. I would recommend you do an alignment afterward, as when I did mine, my alignment was off, although beforehand it was fine.
After any suspension work, better to do alignment
Thx for this valuable info I was concerned this would be a hard job to do but it's simple and easy to do (gotta give it to the engineer who designed this sh easy to access)
Thank you for watching!
Good video, had to take my track rod ends off to get bolt clearance on the control arm
Thank you!
Hello you use a little grease when you put the tie rod ?
Hi, I applied some grease on ball joint
Awesome video, but I did both on my S5 and it’s not as easy as it looks lol. Took me about 3 hours each side because the damn suspension would move forward when control arm is off.
Thank you for watching! Yes it's takes time 😉
How do I get in touch with you to ask questions? My email is dawnholloway05@gmail.com THANKS 😊
Put the control arm in balljoint first and install the holding bolt so it doesn't slip back out. Do not tighten it yet. Then use a mallet or hammer to get it in position in the rear where it connects to the subframe. Then use a pin punch to line the holes up. Leave the punch in place. Put the bolt in from the other side and tap through with a hammer. You will see as the bolt displaces the punch as in pushes it back out the other side that your life will be much easier. You can also use another floor jack under the suspension to reposition it as needed.
Damn that's a fast mechanic
😂🤣
Great video. I’m looking to change my control arms for my Audi A4 b8 but not sure where should I order them from. Can you recommend a specific website where I can get them. Thank you.
Thank yo for watching! You can try Rockauto.com or amazon.com Just select your car year and model and you will find the parts.
Rock Auto
If im just replacing one, do I have to tighten both?
Tighten just that what you replaced.
Excellent tutorial. Just wondering my local indie changed my lower rearward control arm but tightened it while the suspension was still jacked up. Its been a while now (6+months) with the corona virus and all. was wondering if its worth loosening it and tightening it properly or just leave it and hope it doesnt fail early.
I would loosening it and retight it. Your bushings already have a lots of wear.
If he did not torque the bolts with the suspension at ride height, you can have that corrected when you take your car in for an alignment. They should be able to loosen and retorque the bolts with the car on the alignment rack. Not doing this step { Compressing the suspension. } before tightening the bolts to spec will cause premature bushing wear. If you are a DIY type of person, you can just do what he did in the video with jack stands and floor jacks. But this is important to do and should not be skipped. Or you'll just be doing this job again in a month or two.
Makes me sad that most garages seem to do this.
@@snapdragogon69 Just to update, I ended up having to replace it again. The bushing was totally worn and the car started making knocking noises shortly after my initial comment it think. The garage refused to repair and claimed he’d been doing that for years and never had a problem.
@@AbdulSalam-xe4md Thanks for updating mate.
Just bought the parts to do this job, this will help. Thanks
Thank you for watching!
Blows me away you did this while leaving brakes on.
Hello
MOT fail on my 2008 Audi A6 2.0 TDI LV58HCZ Mechanic told me i need to order
Front Right Upper foremost arm
Upper rearmost arm
(So both top arms)
Can you please help which are the rights arms to buy
Hello, you need to know if your car has a sports suspension or all-wheel drive. Find the website and select the details. I can’t do it for you, since there is no A6 with 2.0 TDI in Canada.
Hi there! I have question . I hace a audi q5 2012 and when I turn the steering wheel when reverse , it vibrates a lot. Do you think if I change the lower arm of front suspension, it would fix the issue?
Hi, if you have an vibration maybe you have bad axle shaft. You need to diagnose the car.
would it be same procedure on 2015 A6 c7 (4g) avant? looks very similar
Procedure could be the same but torque specs maybe different.
Thanks for the awesome video. What tool set/box do you use?
Thank you for watching! I used couple of sets. Main set was www.amazon.ca/dp/B01LVVN9VH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_bmTKFbFE2QAZX
Can a faulty lower arm cause vibrations? Very good video btw.
Yes it can, but I would check wheel balancing first. Thank you for watching!
@@mikes.garage or motor mounts
Do I need to do all that to replace a ball joint? What tools are needed for a ball joint , audi q5 2010. Thank you for your help!!
To remove ball joint you will need ball joint separator www.amazon.ca/dp/B002INTDSM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_o9jMFb4ESNKK5
I think you can remove ball joint without removing control arm. But in my case ball joint was fine and control arms bushings was bad. I replaced all together as car had over 200 000 km. I guess you have same problem.
Yes you will need to remove the control arm to replace the ball joint. If the joint is worn, good chance both ball joint and control arm are on their way out. Best to replace both at the same time, both sides and save yourself the misery of having to do this job repeatedly.
Hi my a5 makes creaking noise when turning the steering wheel from left-side
And when I got over bumps is the ball joint
Hi, this is could be ball joint only if it has broken dust cover and ball joint doesn't have grease any more.
How you describe, this is more likely strut dust cover or upper arms mounts worn out. Check out this video th-cam.com/video/g7GtQ4tDyj0/w-d-xo.html
Come mai dopo aver cambiato i bracci la mia auto fino a 30 km/h gira come se le gomme sono ovali grazie
Nice, what is the other curve arm called right behind the one u replaced..mines really bad, and can I just replace bushings.
That called thrust arm and yes, you can replace just a bushings
Thank you for your video. I have a question. Is the size of the lower arm ball joint 15.4mm or 13.8mm?
Thank you for watching! I don't get the question, where is this size from? Here is the link on ball joints www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/audi,2008,a5,3.2l+v6,1441571,suspension,ball+joint,10070
What are some good company’s that make the control arms and ball joint?
TRW
Or Febi Bilstein
Did you have a link where I can get the parts?
Rockauto.com
Can you guide me where can I get service manual for Q5, please?
You can try this website: www.emanualonline.com/cars/audi/q5.htm
I you mention lower control arms but in the video you only change one, what about the other?
Other side is changing the same way as this.
@@mikes.garage So the steering rack doesn't need to be moved in order to do it?
@@mikes.garage not the other side of the car. But there's a front lower arm and rear lower arm on both sides
@@caboodle5462 no, don’t need.
@@caboodle5462 rear control arms was fine in my case
Is this the Same for the 2013 Audi S5
Very close
Thank you so much, it was verry helpfull for my Audi S5 :)
Thank you for watching!
You only replaced the front lower control arms?
I replaced first lower control arms and it helps for better steering. Then I replaced upper control arms and the car become like new.
great video
Can I ask please ,I keep getting a knocking when passing over speed ramps and general local driving
Is it likely that its this thats making the knocking?
Thank you Julian
I would check sway bar link and bushings, also very often on this models front shock mounts making knocking sound. Very rare ball joints making knocking sound on A5.
Hello, did you solve this issue? How did you done, which part did you replace?
I have already replace the upper control bars and the “crack” noise continues.
Thank you
Tell me please! I have exactly sound from minute 5:57 when driving on rough roads ! What was the source? A bolt which is not completely tight, or you hit the thermic protection?
I hit the exhaust pipe. You may have worn out sway bar links. They can looks fine but they may do this sound.
Thanks! I will check!
@@mikes.garage the sound starts at min 5:50 when you start putting the nut, but it is heard much slower.
@@ovidiu.mihai29 check all your bolts on suspension as well
@@mikes.garage the sound appeared after the bearings and sway bar links were changed. Maybe after that it’s a bolt
Is this the same part as the "wishbone link?"
Yes, this is the same part.
I’m doing the passengers side on a 2014 a5. The mounting bolt seems to be catching on the u-joint for the steering linkage. Any advice for getting it out, or do I just need to get a bigger hammer?
You can try to put jack stand under control arm and lowe the car to release pressure from bolt or just try to wiggle it. But maybe I didn't understand the question. U-joint for steering linkage on a passenger side?
@@mikes.garage The boot from the rack seems to be larger on the vehicle I’m working on, the flat of the bolt won’t fit passed
It should come out, apply some grease on a boot. I show all the process in a video.
@@mikes.garage ended up having to remove the tie rod end to get that bolt out
This is weird.
V good instructional vid. Thanks.
Thank you for watching!
I had to beat the crap out of the lower arm joint to get it in.. also switch the very left tripplestar bolt so the head is facing right, it will make your life easier next time. Last tip is to beat the heatsield from the way with hammer handle.
I drilled it out not to long time ago, it was the fastest way.
awesome video! thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Did anyone fix a creaking/knocking sound by swapping out the lower control arm? Hearing it slightly at slow speeds on bumps and when starting/stopping sometimes.
Try to replace sway bar links. They can do this.
Wondering the same, I hope someone could tell us
@@ccflan I'm yet to take it to a garage but its pretty noticeable under 30mph on uneven surfaces now. Is yours similar? Mine almost sounds like its from the back of the vehicle sometimes.
@@RoxusRemo lol definitely the same, it hears like it comes from he back but when you open your door window you'll hear it from the front, I think this is due to the sound isolation between the motor and the car's cabinet, anyway I took the ar to some mechanics here in Morocco and they told me that this is a silentbloc issue and at a high mileage like 200K kilometers you may change it multiple time depending on the roads you step in, it actually because that sound that comes from the back that i changed all the suspensions in the back but nothing noticeable lol!
@@RoxusRemo tell us in the comments if they will tell you the same thing please
this video very good ,thank you
Thank you for watching😊
thanks for sharing this.
Thank you for watching this! 😉
Нельзя было смазать болты и гайки? Следующий раз легче было бы разобрать.
Можно
great video thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Great Job👍👍👍
Thank you! 😊
Great video 💖👏🏻
Thank you for watching!
А болты и гайки смазать слабо? Или пусть прикипают? Зато затягивают всё динамометрическим ключом.
А с чего-бы им прикипать? Там нет больших температур, болты и гайки сделаны с нержавеющей стали.
@@mikes.garage Болты и гайки из нержавейки не делают,так-как нержавейка склонна к самооткручиванию.Обычно их защищают гальванопокрытием.Прикипают болты внутри втулок и гайки по резьбовому пятну контакта из-за воздействия наружной среды.Смазка от этого предохраняет.ИМХО.
На этой машине был пробег 200000 км и ничего не прикепело. Делай как хочешь, никто тебе не запрещает.
I did my control arms and now my car is making noises on the inside, anyone have this issue as well?
What kind of noises?
@@mikes.garage I guess it sounds like squeaking or shifting? Hard to describe
@@danteguerra36this is could be you upper control arms
@@danteguerra36 th-cam.com/video/g7GtQ4tDyj0/w-d-xo.html
NEVER tighten the wheel screws directly with the impact driver! NEVER!
Firstly you screw a couple of turns WITH THE HAND! Is a big mistake, hope it helps!
You are very welcome for all my time that I spent to record and edit this video.
Best video
thanks so much
Thank you for watching!
Nice
Another awesome DIY for Audi B8 control arms. I have watched your other video for the 2 upper control arms :). May I ask why you replaced this lower control arm. I will be replacing the 2 upper control arms soon and thinking if I should replace this lower at same time. Was the bushes damaged on the lower arm and what was the symptoms on the road :)
The car did not move steadily, as if it were floating on the road. That's why it was replaced. The bushings on lower control arms was worn out completely. The lower control arms responsible for responding of the car. So if you thinking to replace upper arms I would replace lower arms as well. Anyway, why do you think you need to replace upper arms?
@@mikes.garage Thanks for replying Mike. The previous MOT shows advisory front upper control arm worn. I inspected it before purchase and did notice 1 cracked so negotiated parts money for the 4 shocks and upper control arms. There is no noise when turning but minor squeak when going over rough roads. Would these lower bushes cause these squeaks?
Squeaking more likely upper control arms, but this is not big deal. I don't think you must replace them, only if you want to do it. Is the shock absorbers leaks? If not do not replace them.
@@mikes.garage The front shock showing sign of come leak . I have bought Sach shocks and they not very expensive. I hate squeaky sound :(
@@smiah2954 Ok, I see. Then replace them! Good luck to you with your project!😉
4:35 usually I tell her to just spit on it, but that works to
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