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- Human remains are believed to have been found in wreckage of the Titan submersible, the US Coast Guard has announced.
Pieces of the sub, which imploded while on a deep dive to the Titanic, have been recovered from the seabed.
Coast Guard officials say the wreckage includes the sub's landing frame and a rear cover .
US medical professionals are to conduct a formal analysis of what is believed to be human remains.
All five people on board the vessel died on 18 June after it imploded about 90 minutes into a dive to view the 1912 shipwreck, which lies at a depth of 3,800m in the north Atlantic.
Those on board were 61-year-old Stockton Rush; British explorer Hamish Harding, 58; Shahzada Dawood, 48, and his son, Suleman Dawood, 19; and French diver Paul-Henry Nargeolet who was 77.
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That ROV is very good at doing its job. Kudos to everyone who is involved to the salvage operation.
Agreed. Tragic, but it has to be done
ROVs are much better than manned vehicles in any such job. Since even the man inside the submersible relies on a small window view, robotic arms, etc, to interact with the outside. There is really no point to send people down there.
one thing is for sure! no human remains in the titan!!!
@@normankennith7919 Well obviously there were remains otherwise they wouldn't have reported it, but probably not even full body parts, just bits from the implosion.
@@Romulan2469 maybe they can piece some of the parts together to see if they can come up with at least one dead person!!!
at least not all of them were the same colour!!!
*Spolier Alert: The Title Is Not Just Misleading But Has Nothing To Do With Anything Stated In This Video.* 👍
Yeah but you would expect better from the bbc
Same title as all the media outlets.
@Thawne1338and guess what, companies have this thing called reputation
@Thawne1338 and ?
BBC reputation is going toward T itanic 🤔
This salvage was done incredibly fast. I thought it would take weeks to bring up such large and heavy pieces of the wreckage. Kudos to the coast guard and the others assisting in this well organized operation. Prayers to the deceased and their families.
Also, an implosion at that depth would leave no human remains.
@@stephenalex4345 Here comes the conspiracy theories 🫠
The coast guard is no joke
billionaires were involved
@@Trippyrich33 its science not conspiracy. Its how implosions work
Nothing went tragically wrong, everything went exactly how health authorities warned the CEO they would go. He built his submerine out of parts from a camping shop, bought a blue tooth console controller off amazon to man the sub, the windows couldnt handle the pressure he wanted them to go to and he had been warned countless times that his submerine was too dangerous to be manned. If you ask me, this is iust another group of stupid billionares who got what was coming for them.
The ONLY victim my heart genuinely aches for was the son. He had only come and agreed to go on the sub to support his father on fathers day. He was actually terrified of the sub and did not want to go on it, but did it for his dad and the both of them ended up dying before the sub even got close to the titanic, especially since the sub lost contact within the first hour or 2, the whole expedition was 7hours+.
You've been reading incorrect stories, the boy wanted to go on the sub more than his dad. His dream was to complete his Rubiks Cube at a record depth whilst his father filmed it.
@@Jayjayuk12345 think the kid should have just tried to get a girlfriend instead lol
Billionaires have no ethics or morals so I don't understand why you'd think his son would have been any different.
Idk how anyone can feel more sorry for the 19 yr old. Yes he was young, but he knew what he was doing. At any point he could've backed out. On the liability form it said death so many times yet he still decided to go.
@@brotherlestat305😂
Canadian Coast Guard🇨🇦 did an excellent job recovering salvage
I wish Canadian fire fighters would put out their fires.
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FUN FACT: It was the other ship in the fleet that works with Ocean Gate, private recovery, not Canadian Coast Guard
Canada is good for nothing but being bullied y an idiot of a P!!!k minister
Impressed they managed to recover that much.
The fact they were able to retrieve this off the sea floor at this depth shows the determination by everyone involved.
It would have floated to the top
@@Jacobhussain99 Once pressure equalised in the submarine, the higher density of the materials used in the sub would've caused it to sink
@@Jacobhussain99after a pressure implosion? Absolutely not.
US Navy has done this with aircraft many times. Even deeper than this.
Probably hired some 50 year old Huuuuite Guys to do it.
We don't fear death but the way we die . Rest in peace
They had the chance to save them
@@babblo1389they could have stopped it but not saved them once they went in the ocean
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That's not really true though, is it...
I'm just an average guy, but even I can see that the two pieces that were fabricated from titanium fared well enough. The carbon fiber wasn't proven to be able to sustain crushing depths as those. But They all said it was just fine. Progress shouldn't be hindered by safety worries, right.
I heard their CEO bragged about using expired carbon fibre on the sub despite warnings. Not even military subs dare go that deep. His arrogance led to the doomed expedition.
Acrylic is gone too highly suspect acrylic was the weak point
@@diesopain260 That's what I was thinking. However, such are the forces involved in an implosion that if the carbon fiber failed, I suspect the acrylic would be destroyed subsequently.
Wasn't proven? The thing had been down to the Titanic multiple times before this
If people play it too safe then new discoveries will never happen.
But that doesn't mean disregarding as much safety as possible.
Things should be tested as throughly as humanly possible before risking anything on a life, with backup systems for things. And even then everyone should be preparing for if anything goes wrong.
Why no comments about human remains when it’s in the title? I can’t believe there would be any. The pressure would literally crush bones to dust.
Crazy click bait, even for BBC standards
It's in more detail in the description. They probably clipped too little of the video or sth
It would be far more unlikely that there weren't any human remains in it. There's a reason the word "presumed" it in the title. What they found is likely small, mangled and mushed bits and pieces here and there with the majority of it spread out on the ocean floor or already digested by marine life. Nothing clearly recognisable as parts of a human, just organic matter from something that was once alive and thus presumed human given the circumstances.
What they found was likely some sort of red sludge residue.
more likely the pressure would just squash any animal or plant. we do have body holes, so pressure would equalise. There are currents deep down as well. The body won't have been obliterated to dust.
Why does the video title mention human remains and no discussion of this during the video?
clickbait
Because the remains are most likely pulp or jelly
Something fishy going on perhaps?
dem a liar!
Exactly my thoughts after watching the clip, it is the BBC after all though.
Presumed human remains found in Titan sub wreckage - BBC News
This was the title and yet not a single statement in the video stating "human remains"
It tells you something about BBC.
The worst kind of click bait
BBC fake news as always
I know Right..I wanted to see some SQUISHED human remains..
I was sadly disappointed
It’s either click bait or there’s something else going on us peasants aren’t being told , but other news agencies are saying the same thing , so that then means all news outlets are owned by 1 group or it’s a conspiracy
That's one hell of a clickbait title bbc...
It's a clip from the full article, more details in the description
I have a background in engineering from my time during after school woodshop classes so i'm somewhat of an expert in these kind of endeavours. With respect to Professor Thorton here, I actually think the key part we need to begin examining is the binding of the paper mache used to construct the hull and see if enough PVA glue had been applied (a tricky ratio to get right in paper mache). Assuming those conform to Blue Peter standards, we can then move on to the parts bound by parcel tape.
Both titanium end caps recovered and appear to have little or no damage. Both titanium ring-shaped flanges which were affixed to the ends of the carbon fiber cylinder recovered and appear to have little or no damage. Notably absent is any mention of any amount of carbon fiber pressure vessel cylinder being recovered.
Even the wee window they used wasn't rated to that depth, nevermind a carbon fiber cylinder (not a sphere- a cylinder, and one that ostensibly used a poor weave pattern at that) rated at most for a few thousand feet- not a titanic depth as they were pushing. You'd think that the crew would be in a small spherical mass of homogeneous steel with a thick plexiglass viewing port, not a cylinder made of a material with such an unfavourable and unpredictable mode of failure. Trieste had better sense of material and engineering, and that was done many decades ago.
It was reported that a substantial amount of cf fragments was found squished in one of the endcaps.
I think they'll try hard to pull at least some carbon fiber up. That's the key why this tragedy happened.
Thanks for sharing hacked. Just curious if the carbon fiber tube where the end caps attached were still glued to it? He had a square slot machined in the titanium ring about 2 inches deep where the carbon fiber tube fit into it with glue.
A section of the carbon fiber is shown in the video.
A plastic structure like a bike frame or a car chassis reinforced by carbon fibre is massively strong in tension, same as concrete with steel reinforcement bars inside, as long as engineers have worked out how to transfer the stresses into it evenly. But in compression it's only as strong as the plastic resin that holds the fibres in place.
Edit: my carbon bike frame is a perfect two-triangle structure with lovely smooth junctions to carry the stresses and carbon fibre to give tensile strength. In tests carbon frames have been found much stronger than alloy frames. But I know my frame tubes are terribly vulnerable to point impacts and crushing, much more so than a steel or aluminium tube and once the resin has cracked the tube will crush like a toilet roll holder.
That's true, the sub builders want both compressive and tensile strength in their material. Since they're both related, even though one is pushing and the other pulling, they tend to look for high tensile strength to build subs. I think on all the new nuclear subs they build the hulls out of HY-80 high tensile steel that has nickel, molybdenum and chromium in it.
@@mygunisinnocent8028 In this case (practically a bottle with pressure outside instead of inside), there is no tensile strength at all in the fibers. I agree that when you flex a piece of carbon fiber reinforced resin, half of it is pulled and the other half is pushed to make it simple, but the overall strength is brought by the pulled fibers. In this case, I only see the material being pushed. It's so basic I am sure I am missing something, but 10 days after discovering this submersible design I still can't figure the base principle holding it together...
@tommasopasserindentreves9345
Well, the outward push you're thinking off would be done by the air inside the sub. As we learned in physics, a bottle full of air won't be crushed anywhere near as shallow a depth as a bottle without air.
The material doesn't really matter, as long as it is thick enough, it's the bonding of the materials.
Since I don't work with the materials used here, I'm not sure how they're fitted together, but tension is not the factor to consider. The equilibrium of pressure on both the inside and outside is what needs to be maintained. My guess is there was a bad weld/fitting that failed.
You should build a submarine or work for Nassa
@@dickdyke-kp7xj That's true regarding the air-filled bottle, the air inside compensates, but here there is a 350:1 pressure difference between the outside and the inside, and air is compressible. You would want to fill it with an incompressible fluid to balance the loads. While I agree that any material has to be thick enough, most are just slightly better when pulled than when pushed, but carbon fiber (rather any fiber) is just not good at all when pushed, like pushing a wire vs. pulling it... I really don't see the point of the fibers here. When reinforcing concrete, the steel bars do have some kind of compressive strength, but fibers just don't. They would only be there waiting for bending and therefore delamination... I still don't get it 🤔
I know nothing about deep sea subs, but other deep sea vehicles I've seen have had twice the depth of window port holes than it had..
As you said, you clearly know nothing about deep sea subs
@@diegonaranjo2425 it's sarcasm from these overnight, bandwagon geniuses
@@igisanchez265overnight bandwagon geniuses lol!
@diegonaranjo2425 And your counter evidence to my statement is ? I know nothing about sea subs means as much as your statement... and they are dead,, you're wrong.
Dying in an ocean as deep as your pockets.
in a vessel as tiny as the shanty houses you
turned your noses up at…In a darkness as
expansive as your ego…going to see the
final resting place of the souls whom you
disturbed with your curiosity, but they still
eagerly welcomed you.
That was beautiful
@@corinahamilton96 indeed!
The ego comment only goes for the guy who was so arrogant about the sub he made
@@hifsaahmed9347absolutely
By chance, is it likely any of the cameras were recording during the disaster? Not that I'd want to see that footage, but it would definitely be useful for investigating.
I want to see that footage
Just say you enjoy watching it
Unless they were recording at a super high framerate you wouldn’t see anything except the screen suddenly go black.
The sub imploded okay, so to state the f***ing obvious if any cameras were onboard they would’ve been destroyed in an instant just like the idiot billionaires were.
So, in short, no there isn’t any footage. 🙃
Lmao your clapped
Quite amazing how many submersible experts there are in the comments.
They’re also rather good at Ukrainian bridges, mass shootings, Trump’s legal proceedings, Iranian arms hardware, Chinese investments, etc😂
Are suggesting people aren’t intelligent enough to gather their own information and formulate their own opinions from the endless ours of content on TH-cam? Interesting 🤔
u don't need to be an expert to have draw conclusions or understand how stupid this idea was when presented with data to give u an idea what this submersible was facing no one is claiming to be an expert but understand this was a really stupid venture that was only going to meet a grisly end
strange how the conspiracy theorists call others experts.
Don't gotta be an expert to know the thing was a death trap
Why is the title to this video that they may have found human remains when there is nothing mentioned about it in the video???
Clickbait
If people just leave Titanic alone this would not happen.
I know. Just let it Rust In Peace.
Alright, Megadeth.
Actually, what would have happened is that the Carbon Fibre cylindrical vessel which was made from straight strands of fibre instead of a weave would have cracked in a circle on the inner wall due to the tensional stresses applied on the outside in the centre of the cylinder by the water pressure. The crack occurred because there was no strength in the length direction of the vessel as the fibres were straight so the only strength was in the resin which has little tensional strength, so the resin split away from the fibres, the water then came in and blew the ends and the window off the sub from the inside , taking everything with it. The whole thing caused by a lack of understanding of how to weave fibres for strengh. Why did nobody realise this ?
Are you a 50 year old white man ? He fired all those , that’s why !! experience doesn’t have a race and the ceo was warned ,his arrogance took his life and that of others
I’m pretty sure they considered all this when they made it 😂 you don’t spend all that money on woven carben fibre and not know the basic options
Gonna be honest here dude, they engineers that worked on the sub are alot smarter than you, the issue was that composition was never tested under such deep sea.
@@reposter6434if they were so clever they would've tested it properly before commercial use, let alone human use.
@@edwardsindustries-20yearsa54 money
The various types of materials will compress at different rates. It would seem sensible that the likely failure points would be where the materials join.
May they rest in peace, this is so shocking to see parts coming back from the ocean and no one alive.
Of course no one is alive ...
it’s coming back piece by piece…. how is it a shock nobody’s alive
@@cee5896 maybe because its not everyday you see on the news a submarine go missing and imploading killing everyone on board
Watch war footage, then you might fall off your chair of this is "so shocking" 😂
I don't know why the other replies are so sarcastic. I get what you're saying. It is shocking.
CEO talked a big game, but it looks like he couldn't handle the pressure.
Lmaooo
5 people lost their lives. I saw people making videos laughing and making jokes about their deaths. Death waits on no one. Elsewhere, their families are mourning. I pray for each family to find closure and be able to move on from this tragedy. May they rest in peace.
Rest in pieces 🙏🏿
Money helps with the mourning process and the families have plenty of it. I would not worry too much for them.
They were billionaires. Nobody becomes a billionaire with their hands clean. These people would gladly kill you if it benefitted them, and they are actively destroying the world and everything in it and about it.
The world is better off now that they are dead. So I say it’s only right to laugh and make fun of them. Other billionaires are doing the exact same whenever they do something that kills or ruins people’s lives.
Do you pray for the families of the 40 people that murdered every day in the USA? How about the 17,000 killed in Ukraine/Russia, the 500 migrants drowned recently......
You must spend a lot of time praying!!
Some people just can't hack the fact that someone else is more financially successful than they are. Last I checked we live in a capitalist society, there are many self-made millionaires that had the same hand as many of the bitter people in these comments. But they will always be ridiculed for making more of themselves.
Due to the pressure of being so far down the implosion would've turned the men into a sort of jellified mush.
I wanna see
@@juerdeotitsgo2678go and volunteer to be a case study then. Then we can both see together.
@@susanna9831 I wanna see too.
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I was going to make a submarine joke, but I don't want to sink that low.
Take your coat and your like and get out lol
Haha that made me laugh, certainly gave me a much needed release of some inner pressure.
That was low even for ocean gates standards
Wouldn't implosion have completely destroyed those parts? They are just broken off and not completely destroyed
The end caps are the only pieces I'd call intact, and I imagine they reacted pretty much like a cap exploding off a crushed bottle. The rest is just shattered fragments.
the end cap and tail seem intact, the hull/capsule is probably a mangled mess of debri still at the bottom
No. A lot of exaggerated nonsense was broadcast about the 'total' destruction. Clearly not true. They might well find solid body parts as well - parts of skeleton.
No thats just what the "experts" in the youtube comments were saying
Do u understand how an implosion of a submersed container works?
Why does it say presumed human remains found when that wasn’t mentioned at all in the video (and is likely not possible)?
Because its in the description and this is a tiny clip from the full report on the BBC news channel
My heart goes out for the family’s ❤
why? all of them are rich and will never struggle ever again.
@@chubbysumo2230 But they have feelings about their dead family members
@@ninine6128 well i dont, and neither should you, because they would not give a single flying fuck about a poor person like you.
At least it was a quick death... The thought of being trapped until suffocation bothers me immensely
Would have been smelly after 5 days too.
@@mariemccann5895 yeah that would have been my biggest concern too
In 2019 Rush expressed the view that the Passenger Vessel Safety Act of 1993 "needlessly prioritized passenger safety over commercial innovation",[6] building on earlier assertions, including statements on the OceanGate website, which noted in 2011 that "since 1974, there has not been a serious injury or fatality on an ABS certified passenger submersible",[10] and an address before The Explorers Club in 2017, where he called submersibles "the safest vehicles on the planet"
Well, there still hasnt been a serious injury or fatality on an ABS certified passenger submersible :/
A friendly reminder that if your death is written in the depth of the ocean, you will rent even a submarine to reach there on time.
Has anyone else noticed that the titanium end cap has no holes drilled in it for the window to be secured ?
"Presumed human remains found in Titan sub wreckage - BBC News"
This is the title which is not part of this report. Very unlike the BBC to be creative like a tabloid would do to sell copies.
You're better than that, BBC.
The BBC better than that? I think not. I don't think they have much of a reputation left to defend, why bother?
They just forgot to mention it. The US Coast Guard said they found what is believed to be human remains in the original report.
Most people are taught that you only need a good job to become rich these billionaires are operating on a whole other playbook that many don't even know exists.
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I'm from USA 🇺🇸, I and two other of my friends tried him immediately we testified, he's performing wonders He gave he's clients nice attention
This is just desperately sad. My heart goes out to the families, I feel so sad for the 19yr old who actually didn’t want to go and only did so to please his father….
nah they fools
No you don't.
Give us a break with the pointless virtue signalling.
You don't feel sad, fool, you didn't know any of these people.
🤡
Millionaires
If you're having hull problems I feel bad for you son...
I got 99 problems but water pressure ain't 1
@@pvpgodx1087 I thought it would be "but getting crushed in a split second at 12 thousand meters ain't one"
Since the sub can withstand high pressure i wouldn't expect the implosion happened in a millisecond as many were saying, i think all 5 people inside heard loud noises while the sub was being squeezed by the pressure and that may took a couple of minutes before it imploded and shattered into pieces
I agree. They definitely knew it was the end.
I agree with the guy in the video. That window and the joint where the end caps met the CF are the two things I'd be looking closely at. He only had a 2 inch deep dado machined into the titanium where the CF tube was glued into. Not much of a gluing surface. He should have had at least a 12 inch deep slot for the carbon fiber to fit into, which would have given him 6 times more gluing surface. This also would have allowed him to drill holes away from the edge and put bolts through the titanium CF titanium sandwich. Drilling holes weakens CF, but it would have been sandwiched between titanium on both sides. The epoxy resin glue holding the end caps on has a tensile strength of 5 to 6000 psi, but the pressure at the Titanic is 6000 psi. Epoxy resin glue is the same stuff you can buy in the hardware store under the brand name JB weld. Nothing against the glue, because I've used it, but I can't believe he would trust his life to JB weld. They make a new epoxy glue that is 7000 psi, but using it on that joint would still be sketchy and almost maxing it out. It's just speculation and we may never know, but I think he probably sprung a leak at one of those end cap joints or through a crack in the window or even the window seal. We know from the last message that there wasn't a sudden implosion from the CF collapsing in a millisecond and turning them into powder from heat as hot as a thousand suns or whatever some are saying. In his last message sent to the surface, he said the thing had been compromised and he was resurfacing, then 2 minutes later navy sensors detected an explosion. To me, compromised means he sprung a leak. It could have started as a pinhole leak that was spraying high pressure water into the sealed cabin, and since the pressure had nowhere to go in the sealed cabin, it would have aired it up like a balloon until it exploded.
Should never have happened.
The CEO fired and ignored all engineer and experts recommendation that the Sub was not built to industry standard.
As opposed to alien remains
I think it about time to leave titanic alone we all know what is look like and rest in peace
RIP a good case of why health and safety is paramount no matter the cost
I won't forget how this story dominated the news for a week and how they wasted millions on a search and rescue even though they knew that this sub had imploded days before they officially announced it. Do not forget how this all happened in the aftermath of an incident in the Mediterranean where hundreds of migrants died at sea whilst the Greek and Italian coach guard watched on, all whilst the news was largely silent.
Since Africans were never ship-builders, they wouldn't be coming to the British Isles and USA naturally. They're getting artificial "help" from sinister forces.
Yeah, it's ridiculous to spend millions recovering the parts and reconstructing it to find out what happened. They do it with planes, to prevent future plane crashes, but in this case, he was the only one in the world using a carbon fiber submarine. As you know, nobody else is gonna be foolish enough to do this.
And this is what we call unity, people. That was a fast recovery. Condolences to the families.
Lol it’s not unity if they wait until after they know people are dead, rather than when they were presumed alive. It’s more ‘fishy’ than anything
Definitely going to be movie based on this
Probably a lower-budget Netflix type movie.
A very romantic one featuring 5 men together
@@babblo1389 LOL
i really dont think people would watch a movie where the climax is an hour and a half of darkness followed by a milisecond of chaos. its an attention grabbing news story cause theres not much to it is there. Theres a couple of million new deep sea diving experts who just found out what ndt stands for in news comment section all over the internet, thats cause theres not much to know about this, dude took risks with his own life and others and ended exactly how he was told it would. I dont think itd live up to the news cycle surrounding the truth
Definitely a in depth documentary FOR SURE
The so called experts who predicted vaporisation couldn't have foreseen the swiftness with which actual experts brought up the debris
What's the purpose of covering it up? It's not like this is top secret government technology...
Be sure to vote this clickbait down
Or, are we thinking that since the vehicle imploded (or, "squeezed in"), that the humans were trapped inside that chamber as it was sqeezed in so their bodies were skewered and stuck to these parts that are now retrieved.
Is Oceangate covering for all the rescue costs they were responsible for?
I doubt they have anything like that sort of money so No!
And no showing of a imploded human being.
🙄
BBC change your title! It’s not mentioned in the video and that is so disrespectful for the grieving families!!! 😡
"United States medical professionals will conduct a formal analysis of presumed human remains that have been carefully recovered within the wreckage at the site of the incident." (US Coast Guard)
Clown.
I hope that it imploded after they disappeared from the radar but thinking what they felt when they realized that they’re going to die at that instant moment still haunts me. RIP 🕊️
Well... of that we can be certain, given the frequencies radar operates at have a real hard time penetrating water at all.
Unless you're suggesting they imploded, sat on the surface.
they wouldn't of had a whole lot of time to panic. death would come in less than a second.
With what it was made of and due to the huge pressure it isn't like how films portray it where there's loud cracks and groans for a while before it collapses.
Soon as there is the initial weakness that'd make these noises it would already be too much and too late and the implosion happens instantly killing the people inside.
I'm just glad it's confirmed to have imploded beats sitting around for days in piss, shit, the cold and ruminating on your arriving death.
Happens in less than one second they wouldn't have had any idea
The implosion would of been quicker than their humans brains could perceive, they wouldn't of had any pain, they wouldn't of seen anything, it would of happened in milliseconds amd they would of been dead very fast to the point they wouldn't of seen or felt a thing, just the moments before and knowing they are going to die, very sad really, I just hope rather than panic they just relaxed and cuddled together before being melted goo to spurt out the vessel to be eaten by sea creatures.
This means the sub imploded nowhere near the depth of the Titanic.
How does this mean that. Please explain.
Well of course. Given the wreck of the Titanic is sitting at roughly 3800m, and even military grade submarines can’t exceed 1000m - it should be obvious that a homemade submersible that ignored many safety measures/protocols wouldn’t even get close.
Titan had made 13 previous dives to the Titanic
@@CameronMcCracken_Art it had made the trip previously several times already? Soooooo what’s ya point?
@@CameronMcCracken_Art experts said it was not how but WHEN, they knew it could make a number of journeys to and back but with material fatigue and the actual design of the submersible it was a matter of WHEN if they were not switching out major parts
i can't wait for the next sub to go down while shooting a doc about this sub
Am I to presume the human remains is the BBC host?
After watching a video of them winding the carbon-fibre onto a steel cylindrical-former for the central-section, I couldn't understand why they didn't alternate the layers diagonally across the cylinder, nor why Rush didn't just incorporate the steel cylindrical-former into the design of submersible as it needed to be much stronger than the end-caps!
I'm old enough to remember when deep-sea submersibles were called 'bathyspheres', and for a very good reason!
What I want to know is why use carbon fiber. On a submersible don’t you care more about strength than weight?
@@raultopete5728then why titanium instead of steel
@@Chewy427 Titanium alloys are stronger than steel alloys, but more expensive!
@@raultopete5728 Well that's the interesting thing, the carbon fiber is the point of contention, pretty much everyone except for Stockton Rush and his yesman team thinks it is madness.
Hi
Impossible , any people would have been literally obliterated to a fine mist
Fine mist is still remains, to be fair.
@@LovingmadjomNot really, to be fair.
Solid bits of skeleton. - skulls etc - might well be amongst the debris. But bringing up such small parts might be beyond the rovs capabilities
those are big fragments - I think the small porthole failed. The water rushing in through one end would balance out the pressure (but crush the occupants instantly) and lead to the hull being destroyed but largely intact
Most sensible comment but I’m not sure if it would in fact damage the hull. The greatest pressure being exerted on the hull is the scenario where the sub is fully in tact.
What about the audio picked up that was consistent with an implosion around the time of dissappearance? The audio would have been different for implosion vs porthole failure.
I'm just curious if any of the onboard cameras attached around the submersible would still be present amongst the wreckage and if the footage captured will be helpful in detetmining what failed?
Doubtful. In fact, I doubt this story is even true, to be honest.
@@newlycreated1864 You sound like my brother, he watches way too many conspiracy theorist videos on TH-cam, in fact he's so far down the rabbit hole, there's no coming back to reality⚠️😲😳😁
@@newlycreated1864it's because it's not
@@pdtech4524sounds like you're the delusional one buddy. Your brother is right
@@assainscreed1234 My brother says exactly the same thing, he locks himself away in his house because he thinks 'the juice' is out to get him, he thinks covid doesn't exist, even though he's been infected with it 3 times by his own admission!
He cut himself off from his family because we're all part of 'the conspiracy'.
Apparantly he thinks anything Alex Jones tells him is the TRUTH.....
Funny thing is he vapes like a chimney and has a permanent cough because of all those chemicals he's inhaling, his skin is pale and he looks ill because he never goes out and gets fresh air or sunshine, he plays his PlayStation all day long and his only interaction with 'real' people is through TH-cam, instead of interacting with actual REAL people!
Sadly he believes EVERYTHING he reads or watches on the Internet!
He's so far removed from reality he thinks that what is happening in Ukraine is all made up and none of Ukraine has been attacked by Russia! He thinks all the death, destruction and cities raised to the ground are all just mock ups or CGI, created by the west as propoganda!
He's so paranoid and so far down the rabbit hole he can't form relationships with real people anymore, his life revolves around a 'virtual' online existance.
He's in his mid 40s and still living out of his bedroom he grew up in at home in our parents house.
Call me delusional or strange but I think I'll pass on that kind of life style.😲😁👍
Guarantee it was that shitty window. The dude that built it was playing with fire going that deep without a window rated for even half the depth...
How unfortunate and heart - rending it was ! May it not happen even to my worst enemy !
May the departed soul of all those, who had perished in this tragic incident, rest in eternal peace !
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I hope they called out to Almighty GOD to save their souls. JOhn 3:16,17
The problem with me is that I can't curse even my worst enemy ! That's it ! Is that understood ! Someone should better understand it !
May the departed soul of all those, who had perished in this tragic incident, rest in eternal peace !
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you lot praying seems to kill everyone. Can you give us all one example thats provable where praying works? if not then I demand Santa Clause help their families.
Speak for yourself OP there's a few people I don't like I'd happily pack into a sub and send them on their way to join the Titanic wreckage.
@@philleotardo8923bro said OP in a TH-cam comment 💀💀
No remains at 350 times atmospheric pressure pushing on Human
Because its not that sub after a implosion there would be nothing left and it would of sunk that far down they would have better luck rasing the titanic
I could be wrong, but I think it fell apart rather than imploding. The "it was instantaneous for them" is nothing more than a mind easer
You could be. Except there was one atmosphere inside and 400 outside. So it fell apart in a different way to the description’ fell apart’ and pretty rapidly.
The temperature where the two pressures meet would be hotter than the surface of the sun. It would have been instant but no doubt there were issues and they knew it was coming.
Impossible to have remains in the wreckage. The tissue would have been compressed and destroyed.
Vaporized, an air pocket imploding under 6000psi of pressure will generate temperatures exceeding 10000 Celsius for a few milliseconds.
@@bobmcbob8732 About 10 times that temperature by my calculation. Factor in the supersonic shrapnel and shock wave too.
@@russellgunther extreme temperatures indeed👍
Solid bits of skeleton. - skulls etc - might well be amongst the debris. But bringing up such small parts might be beyond the rovs capabilities
Not sure an implosion would occur and the pieces would still be identifiable
The carbon fibre cylinder were the men were, imploded, making the recovered parts 'pop off' the structure
Why? Clearly that is the case
That depends on how it imploded, it's likely that the carbon fiber cylinder was the primary failure point
I heard in the event of an implosion, due to the hull being made of carbon fibre, it would shatter instead of bending and collapsing inwards
They probably suffered a painful and slow death
the viewing window is missing meaning it was the first to break
It says presumed human remains found but there’s no mention of that when you watch the video.
What a reckless journey that was. RIP to all that died.
I don't know why people are so obsessed with the Titanic
It's a shipwreck, there must be thousands of them scattered across ocean beds all over the world
They said it couldn't sink 😂
Probably the most famous shipwreck on the planet. Although I do think it should just be left alone now.
They don't all have movies though!
@@jbiel3617I agree so many people died on the titanic, it should just be left alone and
now people wanting to see the ships remains have also perished.
It’s so horrible my heart goes out to the families 🥺
The Company should be charged with manslaughter.
These greedy businessmen care about no one but themselves. RIP to all the people who perished in this disaster.
To be fair, he put his money where his mouth is (was) and went down with his "ship" like a true captain. I have a lot more contempt for the Concordia captain, Mr. Schettino.
Provavelmente a implosão desse submersível, aconteceu bem na hora da pane elétrica e a perda da comunicação. Mesmo que tivesse um auxílio de outro submersível ou submarino, não tinha a mínima possibilidade de salvar as 5 vítimas.
That was easy, now bring up the titanic
This Titan was a commercial enterprise. Most people would never afford the $250,000 fare. It poses no risk to the public accordingly. Fools and their money (and lives) are soon parted. It's done there is nothing anyone can do about it and we've all bigger things to worry us.
Wrong title for this video. Click bait
I wonder what was the insurance plan on this escapade. Did it have a proper insurance cover.
Just third party fire and theft I think
I’m surprised any insurance company would want anything to do with it
It can’t get insured because it was never inspected
Doubtful, since the sub was never certified by any official body or reviewed for safety compliance.
Insurance?? You really think an insurance company would consider such a venture for more than 5 seconds?!!!
The dome section is lashed through the hole where the window was, so clearly the window (which was only rated to a depth/pressure of 1300 meters) blew in from the pressure at 4000 meters... I'm not an expert but I think we know what happened.
Well it could have been destroyed when the sub was crushed, bent metal and extremely high pressure water crashing up against the inside could have caused it to break.
The window would’ve blown if the hull itself imploded. Thinking about it, there wouldn’t be an implosion of the hull if the window had blown.. just high pressure water rushing in
That's what I think it was the weakest link
Orrrr it was photographed and removed to make it easier to hoist for transport with those cranes and straps
@@huberttomlin1768 I would expect the window being blown in at that pressure would have shattered the sub apart honestly. Granted, the fact that the rear equipment bay isn't that badly damaged suggests that this wasn't the case.
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Very sad 😭
What i dont see here is any piece of the carbon fiber hull which many expert people have said for awhile is likely the key reason sub imploded. And that is where the people were. Expert james cameron said the tutanium end cap would be intact at the bottom of the sea and from these pics he was very accurate.
A section of the carbon fiber is shown in the video.
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@@adrianwright8685thats not carbon fiber thats the outer shell. 😂. There is no carbon fiber interior shell unless in very tiny pieces. Even i see bunch of tape on that outer shell.
It'll be a while before was see much of the CF casing as experts have said that would of more then likely shattered creating small fragments/splinters, what we're getting now are all the larger more obvious parts
it looks like the window failed. It was known to be under-specced.
Could’ve been photographed in extreme detail and then removed to make easier for transport with those cranes and straps
OceanGate Expeditions is still advertising trips to the Titanic shipwreck on its website - more than 10 days after its submersible imploded on its deep-sea journey to the wreckage, killing all five aboard.
The undersea exploration company lists two missions to the Titanic in 2024 - from June 12-20 and June 21-29 - at a cost of $250,000 per person, according to the site.
Just about when another tour operator was having plans to take tourists down to see the Titanic AND the Titan
Well that is surprising. Perhaps the implosion wasn't as powerful as people, including myself predicted.
It was powerful....most people think "implosion" means a metal ball that's a size of a baseball...but it's not!! The endcaps are made from titanium.
Yeah idk why people think it like completely vaporized. Every single piece of metal and all and the people inside as well. It’s definitely more of a instant crush and mangle. They prolly were instantly minced/dismembered and at least one of their brains still intact enough to be conscious for a few seconds until the oxygen was depleted
Why does the title say presumed human remains found, I didn't hear one word about human remains being found, did anyone else 🤔💙🕊️🍵 have a peaceful day everyone
Clickbait. We all bit.
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They just forgot to mention it. The US Coast Guard said they found what is believed to be human remains in the original report.
The experts on TV said an implosion at that pressure would have vaporized them with the heat of the sun and turned them to powder. I don't buy that theory, but that's what they were saying.
Maybe the little window literally popped into the cabin. The French pilot had dropped weights, meaning they had some warning of what was about to happen
Not necessarily, the weights drop off automatically after a period of time when the release mechanism is exposed to sea water (there's a component there that slowly dissolves intended as a last-ditch safety mechanism).
What a click bait title. Literally no mention of possible remains.
The "presumed human remains" are all 5 of the passengers violently compressed into a hockey puck sized mass.
Good point in comments re. insurance.
So we have billionaires paying 250k to ride in an uninsured home made sub with no safety certification/inspection.
The whole thing is ridiculous.
Awful title, there were no remains to be found, the pressure change would have vaporised them all instantly
I'm so glad that they found it
Why?
Hope they will recover electronic devices and release any video from passengers camera and computer or the HD camera. I dont think they know or feel any pain when imploded but they must be experiencing terrible things inside when ouside pressure compress the hull until it reached the failure point
Bad news, any of that equipment would have been utterly destroyed by the implosion/pressure, if bot the water. There will be no footage.
Good news they would have felt nothing, it all would have happened so fast they couldn’t register any change. - at that depth you go from pressurised and doing fine to essentially disintegrated in less than a blink of an eye
You are right. Forgot the memory card will also be compressed by the high PSI water and also the implosion could damage anything inside.
It would be pretty funny if they recovered the game controller and it still worked.
Many electronic devices, without proper protection, internal IC, PCB wiring connection and elements like resistance, capacitor will be damaged by salt water and have corrosion even if the joystick wasn't destroyed the implosion or water pressure.
Rest in peace, Subby the submarine. Condolences to your two buoys and a gull .
Should have made entire Ocean gate Titan in Titanium.