Harley-Davidson Sportster Nightster 975 BRUTALLY HONEST Test Ride and Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2024
- I test ride the ALL-NEW 2022 Harley-Davidson Nightster 975 and give you my brutally honest review of The Motor Company’s latest new motorcycle.
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I recently purchased a 2023 Nightster RH 975. LOVE this bike. Fully adjustable rear suspension, plenty of torque and head turning style.
I bought 23 Nighster RH975 as well. I've had it for two days and absolutely love it!
Love the way my new Nightster runs and handles. Miss the throaty rumble of my 48 special. I think Harley will regret losing the notorious sound.
Wow, Tripp, nice production and editing. A little more work to produce a video. And I liked the ride and checking out a new smaller Harley. A great video to watch . Thanks for a great test drive, fun to watch your shows on our channel. Keep it up. An announcement of any any fun runs or adventures with you would be a fun get away and take a break. I'm sorry to say I am struggling with the death of my beloved Doberman. He's not in pain but going downhill for a good week. So hard this one. I've had three other dogs on my life but why is this dog causing me more heartbreak than anything else in my past. My real parents died when I was nine. My other parents have passed away with my best friend my mom. This only dog has affected me more than any other death I have had to deal with. So hard as we grow older and our family and friends are dieing all around us. As we complicate our our mortality. Life can have so many joyful things with love at it core. But it seems like all we see is heartache an pain. Please those of you who have faith any prayers for me would be a Godsend to my comfort. I have no friends or family close to me, moved to help my step mom ( dads sister) thru surgeries fixed up her house that sold one week after open heat and helped her find a assistance living and move to get her to her next phase. Loved her so much. And This Doberman has me mentally unfrenged at his àgeing. Less than a month I predict. So for the last few weeks of noticing his failing. Prayers mean alot to me. God listens and I believe animals have little soals b that our God has given us unconditional love. Having a hard time Trip. I'm crying like a brainwashed by woke professors t offended at everything. Nice work put into the video. Sorry to ramble on but I'm alone in this world and it helps to let it out.
God bless you Duane. Shoot me your contact information at the email address you’ll find on my channel. Good to hear from you and hope all goes as good as it can brother.
Great looking bike. Much better than the Sportster S. I wish the larger Sportster S engine was in this one, though. Then it’d be a perfect modern Harley.
Great video, Tripp! I went to my local dealer yesterday and test rode the Nightster! The immediate best part of this bike is the motor and the unbelievable 9,500 redline! The bike pulls like a freight train all the way redline. My dealer’s test ride route is horrible and only includes the feeder road and side streets, but with the proper technique, I was still able to have some fun. The handlebars and mid mount controls are horrible for anyone over 5’ 10”. The price is too high for a bike that would require at least $1,500 in accessories between the 2-up seat, sissy bar, and handlebars and windshield. No matter what type of bike I ride, I have to outfit it for 2 people because that is what motorcycling and enjoying the road is all about. My .02! Ride safe!
Thanks much Nichols! Agree with all your points. Sadly, I didn’t get to push the bike much past 5000 RPM and 70 mph.
@Steve Malzone The way I was taught and the lessons passed down to me was that all motorcycles were meant for 2-up riding. All these solo seat bikes that are coming out are silly. Everyone has their own opinion. Not knocking the bike, just knocking the industry for making us pay for things that should be included from the factory.
I bought this for the exact opposite reason. Two wheel therapy without the "Second wheel"😊
Love that it's mid mount. Coming off a sports bike and moving onto crusiers was a little worrying because I hated the idea of forward control.
Love to see HD come out with a scrambler built on this chassis. Been looking at a Ducati desert sled as my next bike, but I would rather have a HD.
Welcome to the modern era HD! Great bike. I gave her a road test. To say it is amazing, is and understatement.
Test rode the Nightster Special last week, fun bike good pickup and handled well. For me I would need to add forward controls, bar risers and a different seat...also figure out something to clean up the left side of the engine it just looks unfinished and totally different than the right side.
Good ride and review. That’s a nice looking bike. Looks like a lot of fun to ride and definitely an upgrade from a traditional sportster
Thanks G Money!
I was looking for a bike to ride to work a couple of days a week that was lighter then my bagger. Didn't know anything about the Nightster but my local dealer received their first delivery of the bike when I happened to be in the dealership. Great looking bike. It was light and definitely sportier. Totally different experience from ridding a bagger. On the bagger I'm just cruising around town and definitely the bike for longer trips. The black Nightster I bought is more about around town riding with some speed and looking for some curves to carve. Great looking bike that could be priced more competitively but the shortage of supply is going to keep you at MSRP when buying one.
Congratulations Jason! Which dealership did you buy your Nightster from?
Considering the Nightster….. thanks for the review
Teresa, did you end up with one?
Just rode one during the Demo Day at a local HD dealer. Totally new to the HD 'market' (I'm a new rider; my first and only bike I have ridden is a Kawasaki Vulcan S). Wanted to like both the Nighster and the Sporster S. Sadly, neither appealed to me after a short (15 min) ride. I'm a taller guy and the mid-controls did not work at all for me on this bike, plus the fake air cover was hitting my leg. And for the record, after trying some 'old school' Harley models (Street Bob, Fat Bob, and Fat Boy) I did come away impressed, especially when compared to the Vulcan S. Great video and review!
Thanks PineCone! I too ride a Vulcan S as well as three Harleys. Which dealership were you at?
@@trippontwowheels HD of Baltimore. They just wrapped its 3 day demo tour.
@@pinecone76 It’s been a while but I’ve been to that dealership if it’s the one I’m thinking of. I used to spend a lot of time in Bowie.
Hi. Trying to decide between Vulcan S and Nightster. Any tips? Ta
Great Bike. Actually, planned to buy one when it was first introduced. Keep on riding TRIPP. God speed. !!!
Thanks much Ronald! Ride safe brother.
Hi
I also have a Vulcan 650 which I love. How would you compare the two. Not the obvious power difference but the ergonomics and feel?
Thanks
Den
Personally I prefer the handlebars and foot configuration of the Vulcan S but that was only after 10 miles of riding. To give you a good answer I’d have to ride at least 25-30 miles at one go on each bike.
It looks like a great bike and a lot of fun to ride. I think it is a big win for Harley. However I can't help but to feel bummed that this is the beginning of the end for the air cooled V-twin. Nothing will ever replaced the sound and feel of a V-twin. Us old school Harley guys get it, but I also understand you can't stop progress. Kind of bitter sweet I guess. Great review Tripp!
Agree, but used air-cooled bikes and aftermarket parts for them will be around and available for many years to come. So I'm not sweating it too much.
Hold on to the ones you got..$$... Also I'm not a fan of the controls on the bars. The blinkers both on the left side... Looks like a fckin Honda. Why would they change that... Looks cheap.
Also it's got that Suzuki intruder tank and frame look... Not a fan at all. To each is own. But Harley to me is too feel like your on a Harley... I like the 48 1200... The 72 1200... The irons... The nightster... But this... Idk man. Whatever I guess.
The M8 Softails have oil coolers and the M8 touring bikes have hidden twin radiators already, the sound and feel of a Harley comes from the 45° Vtwins with a strangely unbalanced firing order. They always have.. The way the bike is cooled does not have an effect on the sound of the motor 👀 The Nightster sounds different because its a 60° vtwin with an even firing order 👀
Unless you have several already, I strongly suggest looking for decent used ones. I suspect the price is about to double on REAL Sportsters and pre M8 full size bikes. The Japanese have been accused of copying Harley for decades, they tried to copy the look, but they never copied the sound and feel. Now H-D has built a virtual clone of a Japanese bike. If you don't want the sound and feel of a Harley, then I suggest buying Japanese. The H-D name no longer means anything. They don't build Harleys anymore. BTW, "progress" can go both ways, and H-D definitely went the WRONG way with this POS.
Lovely looking bike but in the UK we are looking at £12K, I would like a rear seat and footpegs, so near £13K, there are cheaper options out there, I wish HD well but I cannot see the value compared to a Triumph Speedmaster or Honda Rebel 1100. Great review thank you.
I've mentioned this on other reviews, the problem HD is gonna have with this bike is the price tag. HD is going to have to try and Market this bike to the cross shopping crowd. And unfortunately it's 3-4k more expensive than the Rebel 1100. And the Rebel offers same power, same weight, plus cruise control, optional dct for limited mobility riders, and a proven Honda reliable engine. And for those still wanting a little "Americana" the Scout is still cheaper, and is more of a traditional cruiser. HD will have to hope the Harley faithful embrace this machine, or its going to fail.
And this is new? They’ve been successfully pulling this off the past 50 years.
That frame is hideous looks like Honda sold Harley the rebel frame lol
The Scout Rouge is cheaper but doesn’t offer any tech or content like this bike does.
It's a major departure from the air cooled EVO so a lot of diehards are already putting this bike down, but I agree with you that this could be a major step in the right direction for Harley . Looks great. Got power, and flick it . Will see in the next year or two where they go with this engine combination
Honestly, though, this is what the Sportster should be about. Unless you are talking mid-engine super cars, it’s go more stock power than pretty much any sports car. It’s light, nimble, fast and fun, sounds like a Sportster to me!
Let the old farts keep their farty old baggers. It’s ok if the Sportster line is not gif them. Hell, they always referred to them as “girl bikes” anyway. I don’t know why anyone pays attention to the legacy crowd. They hated the Sportster before, they hate it now, the only difference is that now the Sportster is actually a good bike that more people will want to buy.
i hear the heat pouring off can be an issue. Here we wear shorts all year around . This handlebar should have been on the sporster S.
But.. need 6" more forward on contols.
One thing you might not have known, is that bike Rev’s to 9,000 rpm. The power actually starts at around 4,000, if you get another ride on it rev it out. I owned two Vrod’s and that engine is very similar, most HD riders are used to short shifting. Nice review 😎
Thanks Jim!
Vrod engine is nothing like this. They just tried passing it off with the name mimic
Looking forward to trying one out soon
I think you’ll enjoy it.
I tested one and I really tried to like it but not my thing I have an Iron 883 2018 model A good move for Harley but rides like a Honda feels like a Honda. Want a Harley not a Honda but that’s just me and I am sure they will bring a new thing that going to get us back on track.
Im a Softail diehard. Always will be. But this is a serious good move for Harley. The bikes it competes against. Higher end metric cruisers and the scout. Honestly the scouts the only one that truly competes with it. Comes down to the individual there. The nighter has those sweet classic Harley lines still. That sportster front wheel looks so nice. The scout has those goofy geezer lines going for it. If that's ur thing. Good liking bike though. Only decent looking Indian bike to me.
Harley-Davidson sells a “Reach Handlebar” that brings the handlebars back and closer to the rider.
I just bought one, it's great. I'm a new rider and it feels approachable. I had a sportster that always felt top heavy and dangerous especially after fueling up. I did not enjoy. But this makes it really fun. I bought it on a whim two days ago 🤣
Congrats! Where are you from? Ride safe and hope you subscribe! -Tripp
@@trippontwowheels I live in beautiful Humboldt County, Eureka, California. I just graduated nursing school at Cal-Poly and this is a gift to myself 🥰🥰🥰
Very nice! Much luck and safety to you my friend.
What's the MSRP???
How much did it cost?
I have one, love it. But I think you could ride it long distance’s. I know I could, it’s way more than a bar hopper.
I'm sure with aftermarket pipes and seat you'll get a good sound and feel from the bike , the forward end is a little congested to be able to fit an engine bar with cruise pegs tho', tree huggers around the world have forced the changes Harley and others are having to make, so I suggest they buy me one of these beasts. Good Review. PS I could see the sky in the glass of the clock how was it while sat over it?
dont bet on it!! It will never sound like a real Harley
Tree huggers have forced the changes ???!! I wonder if maybe it’s Indian
Looks dope! But then there’s the LIVEWIRE. Ever since I built my first electric bike I’ve been watching a lot of these bike videos lmao
Don't worry, the air cooled V Twins are not going anywhere, as long as sales are strong. This isn't the bike for me but I think these water cooled engines are a step in the right direction, although they need refinement. I hope HD sells a ton of these
Amen Larry!
Great review video!
Thanks much TWW! What’s your current ride?
@@trippontwowheels 1979 Shovelhead FXSB
@@twowheeledwireman282 Nice!
The only thing I don't like about the Sportster line is the smaller gas tank, other than that it's such a fun bike to ride. Thanks Tripp for the video keep em coming
Thanks much!
With the ergonomics and that seat, you don't really need to go more than 120-150 miles before stopping anyways 🤣
@@AyaWetts Heck, My butt would be lucky to last 30 miles on the thing. 🙂
My 2016 1200 has a 4.5 gallon. Never seemed too small.
@@lucasmorse3425 I thought it was smaller, thanks for the input brother much appreciated
I found the brakes to be not that good, was powerful and I would like higher bars too
The thing I hate about mid-controls is it's impossible to scoop up wasps and hornets in my pant legs.
You too eh?
😂
Very nice video/review.
Thanks brother! What’s new with you?
@@trippontwowheels recently put a fairing on my bike. Going to add a highwaybar/crashbar soon, plan on doing a road trip to California for July 4th.
I keep watching the new Harley videos to see if they have come to their senses, and made a bike that you can stand up on the pegs when going over rough roads, railroad tracks, or when you want to get some air under there after riding long distances in the summer. But alas, HD is still stuck on the BarcaLounger riding position. And they call this a Sportster.
need a forward control kit; like the sporster S as its way to close to knees; butt to even sit on it !
Great review but I'll stick with my 2001 Sportster 1200S. Cheers🍻
Thanks splodge. And I’ll stick with my 2004 as well. 🙂
Good assessment Tripp. I think it's great Harley is retinking the Sportster.
they never needed ever to rethink an Sportster,, they were perfect the way they were..I know I own an older one
There is a break disc missing from the front wheel that should have been on it before it left the factory Harley have done this with lots of there big heavy bikes and I don't know why, great looking bike though
I bought my very first bike 59 yr old woman I love her put on windshield and engine gua4ds 😊
Very nice Maurine. Congrats! Where are you from and what color did you get?
@trippontwowheels I got Grey but dropped 2x healing but will get back on her soon
from tampa fl
That thing sounds like my grandmas vacuum cleaner!
On the bike it sounds much better. Keep in mind the microphone is actually inside my helmet, facing forward, about as far from the exhaust as it could be. 🙂
At that price all i can say is good luck harley!
The price is ridiculous. Very poor value.
No cruise control? With all the electronics on that thing, it would have been easy for them to add. Should be standard on all “cruiser” bikes across all manufacturers. Another thing, which Indian is also guilty of with the Scout Rogue, how do they justify charging more for different colors when all they do is paint the tank?
It does come standard with cruise control I believe. I thought in mentioned that while on the bike. Or did I leave it out?
@@trippontwowheels I didn’t hear it mentioned, or see it on the controls.
@@GasWorksISO I didn’t show it. Heck, I didn’t know where it was! 🙂
@@GasWorksISO Actually, you’re correct. Bike doesn’t have it and I didn’t mention it. And I totally agree with your point.
A sportster is not a cruiser!! Its not called a cruister 975. Just sayin.
H-D definitlely needs Willie G Davidson back in the styling dept , These things dont even look like harleys anymore just my opinion . Id rather have the indian scout bobber .
I like this motorcycle. It looks like a next generation classic Sportster to me. I think they should have called in the Sportster 875. I think this new Revolution Max engine will prove to be a great engine for H-D, if they can sell them. Old school H-D guys don't seem to like them, but how much longer are they going to be buying motorcycles. They better be looking to younger buyers and I think the technology it offers is one step in that direction My issue with the bike is the price. There are other bikes that offer more for less money. If H-D wants to live, they need lower cost bikes. This one should be $3000-$4000 cheaper. Am I going to buy one? Well, I still like my 2007 Sportster 1200 and plan to hang onto it.
I like it but not ready to change my Streetbob just yet. Please don't follow trucks with site toilets on them, that was scary stuff.
Do they have a crash bar or engine guard for this bike yet?
I’m sure they must.
Nice looking bike but not for the price just not getting much for 13-14k more like a 10k bike but that’s just my opinion love the video.
Totally agree with you Lonnie.
Home run! Problem is, I couldn't make a decision: Livewire, Pan America, Nightster or Sportster S.
Did you ever make a decision? 🙂
The right side looks pretty good, the left is a mess.
How so?
@@trippontwowheels Well they obviously went to a lot of trouble to make the right side look good. The engine, exhaust etc. All the pipes, gubbins and stuff are on the other side along with a chain cover. I looked online and it's hard to find a pic of it from the left side - so they seem to think so too. Great video mate, cheers from Western Australia.
I think this new model will appeal to new riders who never owned a traditional Harley Davidson. They don’t know what they don’t know!
I think corporate would like it that way!
The RevMax Engine sounds great with a pipe on it. Different sound then a Milwaukee 8, but not bad....almost Ducati ish if I was to pick a comparison sound.
Which is a good thing because Harley needs to, and is trying to, attract younger consumers to the franchise. Did you buy one?
@@trippontwowheels I bought a 22 PanAm Special. Put a TBR system on it, with a K&N filter, and she pulls really well. (shockingly well actually...like 0 to getting thrown in Jail really quickly type fast). It sounds fantastic also.
@@redline455 Let’s hope you steer clear of the Grey Bar Hilton!
You easily ad the windshield and bags to use long distance. People used to take 500cc bikes across the country, should be easy money on this bike
end mirrors will last 2 yrs in my city traffic of scooters and NON drivers. Need upright stems for sure !
That's the same dealer I took my MSF course at and bought my 883 from. Was really hoping this was the next bike for me but not sure after seeing some reviews. Would hate to go from an Iron to a "plasticy" bike.
Apologies, but you don’t get it.
@@trippontwowheels no need to apologize. Guess I don't and I'll leave it at that 🤷♀️
all those fancy buttons and still no adjustable suspension? I'm not a harley guy, so what's the deal with antique suspension on a modern bike?
The suspension is adjustable and there’s nothing antique about this bike.
The handlebar controls look like a little kid designed them
Legos!
Yay!
@@trippontwowheels i love your channel by the way I've been here since anonymous sent me here your areal trip glad your giving these reviews and content
@@Running-with-skizers Thanks much Wyse Guy! Where you from?
@@trippontwowheels the steel city sir
I think Harley has found themselves in an interesting predicament... There's a lot of comments stating "it's progress"... But is that really what Harley's core customer cares about? They are literally walking away from the 1 thing they've become desirable for. There are other brands still making air cooled bikes and there are other brands making water-cooled bikes with a bit more subtlety, i.e. free of large nasty radiators that kill the bikes lines and simplicity... coughTRIUMPHcough... I think ideally they need to keep an air-cooled version of the sportster in their line for eternity, seems pretty dicey to put all their eggs in this water-cooled Revolution basket.
Air cooled engines are slowly dying solely because of emissions. The old sportsters did not meet Euro 5 which directly lead to being discontinued.
@@chriskraczek2675 Seems Royal Enfield has found a way around it. Their entire line up of bikes are ALL aircooled and they are being sold worldwide at rapidly growing pace...
Do you think it's faster than the low rider s In the 1/4 mile?
Definitely. 90 hp and 481 lbs vs. 103 and 725 lbs. I’ve ridden them both. I’d bet Nightster hands down.
@@trippontwowheels that's what I thought. Just wanted to hear it from someone who's been on them both. Thanks!
Anytime my friend. Ride safe and hope to read more of your comments! -Tripp
Harley Davidsons cafe racer!!! Very nice
you need to do a glove review
The honey bucket was more interesting. I was hoping it would fall off. Not in your lane though
Hey man how you doing?
can you please go faster then 70... i can do that on my 125 Grom
So it is a 6 speed.. that might of just sold me on it. I love my sporty's but I hate riding long trips with 5 gears.
Good point.
If you guy's and gals would like to customize your new '22 Nightster you should check out the latest custom 975 from Germany.
Go to: Thunderbike Project-X Customized HD Nightster 975. Thunderbike also sells a great catalog loaded with custom and
billet parts, has an awesome FREE newsletter, bike wallpapers, and numerous build videos. (Video is in German though!). ENJOY!
Only one pertinent question…
Is it really worth the (starting price) $13,500
price tag??
To me? Not a chance.
@@trippontwowheels
Agreed… 👍👍
In Europe sits in about +15k Euros. Was really looking forward to this. It is more than decently equipped and looks ok-ish but the price tag feels like a highway robbery.
Good looking bike. A bit pricey though.
Pricey. Way too pricey.
Home run? Looks like a gimped VROD for the market in INDIA.
A billion Indians in India.
It sounds like it's a good bike, but as always has the HD tax when it comes to $$$ to buy.
HD stands for high dollar
Yes! I think 10,400 would have been very reasonable and they would sell them left and right all day!!!
Like the modern tech aids. Don't like the looks and sound of the engine and exhaust. Don't like the feel of the ride, too smooth. Would stick an air-cooled 1200 engine on it if it were possible (which it isn't). So, I wouldn't get one. Will stick with my 'real' Sportster, thank you.
Nothing wrong with that!
No Harley sounds good stock. That’s always the first upgrade
All stock set ups dont really sound the way you’d like it😊
I'm kinda let down
Is this bike faster then an R6?
Not sure, but I would think so.
They only need to put a six speed gearbox on the old sportsters and keep refining the engine, some improvements from the m8 could have been implemented, shame they did this instead... Anyway, better than the sportster s.
Younger Americans favor metric and water cooled street and adventure bikes. To hold on to the old Sportster would do little but hasten Harley’s demise. You’ve got to fish where the fish are.
@@trippontwowheelsso sad you're so right about that
I could already say... Not feeling the blinker switch setup.. looks like it was made in Japan.
I think they’ve hit it out of the park moving into the future finally. Years of love hate relationships with various models and engine designs but I’m liking this with a few changes for myself. I like the stock bars but would add some pull back risers. Like the exhaust design but in no way is that stock muffler gonna cut it either a heavy modification on the stock or complete replacement. Horn, no. Mamma needs accommodations and I would prefer stainless spoked wheels with black hubs and rims. I’m sure the aftermarket for this will be fat in no time. Needs some cleanup work on exposed wiring and such also it’s sloppy in that. But how many people ever leave their bikes stock anyway.
enjoy seeing my neck of the woods! dont think I would like the handlebars
Where do you live John?
@@trippontwowheels Live Oak area
@@johnstanko898 We live about 5 miles apart. Want to ride sometime? Email me at tripp@trippontwowheels.com
Everything but the price 👍
I love it I think it's the best they have ever done looks beautiful sounds beautiful what more do you want sold
Great minds think alike!
I don't know Tripp.
Me being a crusty old antique myself whose opinion no one gives a shit about, I think Harley lost it's spirit and soul a long time ago with the passing of the Evo.
That thing looks like one of those little plastic playpurty peddle motysickles that we all slobbered over in the Sears®️ catalogue when we were kids.
It should be a huge hit.
Nothing plastic about it. Bite your tongue and go look at one in the flesh. Like the Evo or not (and I do), if Harley were to stay with it and not try new things, they’d go out of business. Fact.
@@trippontwowheels
I respect your opinion Tripp, and I have been keeping up with the new models of Harley and Indian.
The amount of plastic on all of the newer models of both is appalling, even compared to my '97 Wideglide.
There's no way I would even think of paying the asking price of either one.
Even the quality of aluminum and tin used on the newer bikes is unreal.
I guess if one hasn't been around long enough to remember how things used to be made it's not that big a deal.
It just seems like the original spirit of owning, maintaining, and riding motorcycles has been lost in the myriad of wires and electronics, and the modern sense of values.
@@trippontwowheels
I'm old and crusty Tripp.
My first Harley was what was left of a 61 cubic inch Panhead, basically an engine and transmission, two wheels, a seat, and a set of crooked handlebars.
Cut up truck inner tubes stuffed with newspaper as chaps to keep your balls from icing up, and jimmying open gas station bathrooms out in the middle of nowhere to get a couple hours of sleep with a roll of toilet paper for a pillow, and your jacket for a blanket.
It was a totally different world back then.
@@rarebreed9208 Gotta agree with you. The toilet paper back then was thicker, softer & made for a better pillow too.
@@trippontwowheels I've seen other reviews lately on YT pointing out that there is quite a bit more plastic on this Nightster than other HDs. Guess I'll have to check it out first hand.
You never rode in the 5-8000 power band to demonstrate--the bike is designed to keep the revs up
I’m betting I did a couple of times, but only briefly. You’re right though.
90 horsepower and 80 lbs lighter than the last one. What’s not to like?
So ya went with the new intro to appease the young folks.......
Slow heavy EXPENSIVE sounds funny and from the factory at the dealer demo ride the final belt was crowdin the left side of the pulley. I'll be keeping my Triumphs .
Nah, I went with the new intro to appease me. Although the new 975 isn’t for me, it’s a hell of a good step in the right direction for Harley in my opinion. This bike and slow and heavy have nothing in common. Expensive? Well, sadly that’s another story. 🙂
@@trippontwowheels I saw their ADV bike in person before I saw any press on it. The owner stated 150 HP. I believe it's the same engine did the motor company de tune it for use in the sportster or was the ADV owner off by 60 HP ? My worn-out old brain remembers every first production run of the now dead V-Rod failing pretty quickly . Really don't think they understand liquid cooling yet.
@@pinslayer4579 The Panamerica uses a Revolution 1250T that produces 150 hp. The Sportster S uses a detuned version that puts out 121 hp. The Nightster uses a Revolution 975T that puts out 90 hp.
@@trippontwowheels Thanks for the explanation don't really follow the motor company since I bought a Buell M2.
Why would you compare a high output motor about to a cruiser motor about 100cc less, by treadmill numbers.....supposedly the 750 had better treadmil numbers than the 883......I suppose this is a means of tryiing to make this bike look better......ok lets go on
I know compare that to the 1130cc v-rod
I notice you don't do any curves, suppose thats because 883 might whoop it with the same lean angle and the low-end Tq of the 883.....be interesting to see an actual sport riding comparison
Indian Scout for the win
So it's an ugly victory octane (R.I.P.) with slightly less power and a 30% higher msrp?
Slightly less power than what?
You can buy a rebel 1100 dress it up with every accessory Honda has for it and do a complete stage 1 and still be cheaper than this stock bike out the door smdh
Dude, you should go around the potty in the back of that truck
Say what?
Nice bike to be a cafe racer ✌️
Well shoot, now im gonna have to go tit ride one. Harley has always been so far off my radar that I couldn't even tell you what color they are. This thing has my attention, and it just so happens I'm old enough now to own a Harley.
The main insult is a huge company like HD charging extra for a different NORMAL color. Not a special metallic or prism or fade, simply RED OR GRAY. STUPID. Just like the Indian Scout....the MSRP is your starting point: Then you'll have to add exhaust, rear shocks (at least on the Indian, I've heard they are terrible) seat mod. to keep from sliding off to the back fender and on and on......I still really like this new model, but I'm still in love with the Triumph Bonneville T120 (no extra charge for a different color or the Black version)
Ride to live ride hard and free
Woo hoo!
i think they will be all water cooled in the next 2 years.
Think I’ll go buy a Honda for a Honda price tag.
Nothing wrong with that. Honda makes great bikes. Have had three of them.
@@trippontwowheels I was being sarcastic really….. we’re saying goodbye to Harley Davidson…. Glad I got my v-twin before they stopped making them all together.
No gloves? No thumbs up. ;)
I got about a mile into the ride and realized I had left them behind. I was like WTF? Seriously, it’s the first time I’ve ridden without gloves in years. Must be getting senile!
@@trippontwowheels
Alright then. Ride on, sir!
Thumbs up and wink from Switzerland!
I know traditionalists will always scream “Stick to your roots Harley where’s your loyalty?” Well that crowd is diminishing in sales and that’s a reality for Harley and a huge reality in sales. If they don’t appeal to a different generation AND keep enough of traditional bikes around your sales stagnate. That’s bad news for everyone who likes Harley’s. Forcing the companies hand by stagnating development to appease traditionalists is just bad business all around for anyone. Simple solution if you don’t like it don’t buy it and get an air cooled cruiser they still have plenty of. It’s the same noise everyone made when Ducati changed the monster to have the engine be part of the whole making it a stressed member and eliminating the traditional trellis frame. Despite protest’s they continue to sell the hell out of them and having ridden one the handling was greatly improved. This I can’t wait to test ride and there’s a strong possibility I’ll get one.
$14,000 MSRP? Oof, for an entry level bike… Harley must know the end is inevitable
Doubtful.
So HD is trying to sell a ohc, water cooled "Sportster" for 16,000 dollars!!!!
WTF....i have had evo sporties and own a 75 ironhead stroker., before I would buy the nightster, i would get a V star, a honda shadow, a vulcan 800 for maybe 2 grand! Goodbye HD...this just sealed HD fate!
Harley should lower the price. But it’s a great looking big.
Totally agree. It’s a great bike, but a horrible value.
To bad there no longer made in the usa!
Guess you don’t really know anything about the subject. Every Harley for sale in the North American market is made in the USA.
Looking at the new Harleys for this year it looks like I won't be buying any more new Harleys. Higher prices for bikes I'm less interested in. It was nice knowing ya Harley.
I'll buy an actual Honda before I buy an overpriced Honda knockoff.
Should be a 1200