Harley-Davidson NIGHTSTER Test Ride
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- New 2022 Harley-Davidson Nightster test ride and review!
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Harley is becoming the new dentist bike brand like BMW... The baseline price of 13.5k for an entry is not affordable for most newcomers.
That's not an entry level bike, they still have the Evo sportster for that
@@drewthelegend0188 they stopped selling evo sportster outside of North America since 2020
@@KSMotoCafe oh yeah that can be a problem
Harley has never really been an affordable company tbf
@@fastec5 motorcycles have never been affordable, what's your point
Balancing act horsepower and torque with rotating mass. As rpm’s increase more horsepower but loss of torque with higher rpm. The heavy Harley’s need more torque off the line. Light Harley’s need less torque so rpm can increase for more horsepower. KTM Super Duke very unique V2 engine as it offers 104 ft pounds torque/180 horsepower all below 9500 rpm. Harley doing great job with new bikes not just new paints every year. Variable valve timing following the emission chart. Turbos were next at least for cars.
Nice that you draw a size comparison
Beautiful bike
Re-Badged VROD
Great riding and hanging with you bro. What a heck of a light little bike with plenty of power. Windy little engine. Keep er' up in the high RPM's for shoa! 🤘
I got one last Friday. I love it, but there are a few negatives. The most annoying is the gas tank, the actual one. The cap is under the seat. The seat requires the key to open up. The lock is on the left, and so is the hinge for the seat. You unlock the seat and lift it towards you. Annoying. When you get the seat up, you end up leaning over the bike to grab the fuel hose, if you didn't walk around the bike. If you reach over the bike to fuel up, you have to hold the hose away from the exhaust. It's not something I expected to see brought up in this review, and I think it's something potential buyers should know.
Now, it's light, flickable, quick but stable. It's ONLY 975cc, but that 90 HP is nice!
I was curious about that. I’ll have to try and fuel up in future review vids to get this insight, good lookin out!
Roger that; so exit left side, lift seat, and walk around bike to pump.
@@BlockheadMoto I watched the whole video before commenting, waiting to see if you mentioned it. Everyone I've shown has the same "WTF, Harley?" reaction.
@@usmcvet0313 and hold the hose away from the exhaust pipe.
@@petecarvo9284 maybe you could you park a little farther from the pump, so the reach of the hose will naturally keep it up & away from the exhaust.
I've been waiting for this...
I'm hammered, so I might need to re watch later.
Took 10 min to make sure this comment was spelled correctly.
Aside from the extra space after the comma, you did great! 🍻😆
don't ride like that.
@@RulgertGhostalker hate to sound dated but... duh.
Too much money for not enough bike...here in italy you get the sportster s for 1000€ more...
I am defiantly considering this nightster as a first bike. Thanks blockhead for the review. 🤘🏻
Did you ever get it!?
I'm a diehard old school air cooled fan, I own an EVO Sportster and am going to be restoring and EVO Softail Heritage. The EVO engine has so much personality and attitude, and is as reliable as an Amish sawmill. I'm afraid that some of that has been lost in the new RevMax, however I understand that it was time for an update. I love the Indian Scout and am excited to compare it to the new Nightster, as they are both DOHC liquid cooled twins. I really hope this bike is a smash hit for HD and am really excited to see what people do with theirs!
The Revo out of the VRSC was the most reliable powertrain Harley ever produced. I'd expect similar out of the Revmax.
I’ve had two air cooled Harley’s, and now have the sportster S. I was pretty distraught at first, because I thought the revmax had absolutely no soul or personality- but I was wrong. It’s a subtle personality, but you’ll find it if you give it some time, patience, and keep an open mind. It’s such a good engine, and the different modes make it feel like three separate bikes.
03:04 It's telling that at 6'6", Matt Laidlaw had to fully stretch his arms to reach the bars.
@16:17 you didn’t ride a Triumph Street Twin yet, didn’t you. I think that motorcycle is the only one I can safely say, Yes..I can live with the stock exhaust.
Good to see Harley do more with a sport cruiser segment. I've not had a chance to ride the Nighster but the Sportster S was a fun little bike to ride. Also, cool to see one of my favorite TH-camrs on your channel ... Ride to Food - love her stuff. Thanks brother ... PEACE!
I've been waiting a while for the new sportster. The Sportster S is is what got me back into motorcycles but wound up going with the Triumph Speed Twin. To me it looks better, better ergos and has a better price point than the S than the Nightster. Would still love a comparison video between them.
Good choice! I have a Speed Twin and it's amazing!
@@NicePantsLance You're one of the one's who helped convince me. Lol
Harley, please give me this bike with the 1250T and the TFT screen. That's all.
@HahrtDood Twin rotors are completely unnecessary and would only add unsprung weight to the front and this bike isn't made for long distances or the highway so neither is cruise.
If I remember correctly last Nightster was 1200cc and could be had for circa $9K. Granted, it didn't have riding modes and was a bit heavier. But it was an evolution, simple and fairly reliable. Super customizable and who needs riding modes on frggin' cruiser anyway? This one looks good, if you can get past humongous exhaust and radiator hanging in front. But the worst part is the price. $15K? Really?
Harley has lost the entry level market with the Nightster/Sportster lineup. I think these new Harley's will be competing with the Indian Scout Bobber?
Not even.tbh if i wanted an ohc engine i would of got a yamaha. The only reason why I have a harley is because of the push rod and 30°lumpy fire engine @@briansearles4473
I love all your bike reviews and tips. You really helped me pick out my first HD and I've been obsessed since I got it all I wanna do is ride
Glad the vids helped!
Love the look of this bike but I'm sticking with kawi since I can't afford a damn helmet from harley let alone a bike lol
Z900RS is the only Kawi I'd consider these days, their 650 cruiser is especially terrible 🤦🏿♂️ you know it's bad when you return a rental!
@@TheMarvelous1310 I've heard nothing but great things about the Vulcan 650. I have 2 friends with them and they love them. Pretty quick for what they are too, faster than the old Sportys anyways.
I own two Harley’s and want to like this thing, but the more I see it and hear it the less I like it. It pains me to say this, but Harley made a Honda that can’t complete with Honda. I’d rather have an 883.
The fake gas tank bothers me. I wonder why they decided to use an airbox over a traditional side mounted filter.
Because the gas is underneath you and they had to put something there. The intake is still on the side, the filter is just up top.
Jesus, she's 5'4'' and has a 3-inch longer inseam than I do at 5'10''.... that's why inseam matters more than height for a motorcycle.
This bike seems pretty cool. But all it really does for me is make me wish it had been the Bronx
Trying so hard to keep up with the Indian scouts… and they dropped the old school Harley sportsters to do it unfortunately. Don’t get me wrong, I love both Indian and Harley. But Indian is keeping it old school with technology.. my wife was leaning on a Indian but went the a 2022 Harley 48 due to possibly being the last of em at the time. They ended up dropping em so maybe we have something special
Where can I get a full exhaust for my 23 Nightster s? And a comfortable two up seat
28:37 😂 that was a sweet burnout 👍👍 great video guy+!
Didn’t even notice that 😆
@@BlockheadMoto 😂😂
I still have stock pipes on my road glide. Some of us like quiet and less obnoxuous
I'd like to suggest something, I think a Blockhead Raw channel would be absolutely Banger. I don't think I'm the only one who misses the pov cruises. Just saying, like if you support
To me, the Nightster is basically a Sportster that's larping as a Night Rod Special. That's just me, though.
Performance gains and sounds in a liquid cooled engine over air cooled is night and day. I’m shocked they’re popular now when HD had it already with the Vrod. It would be amazing to have a new Vrod. Sporties just got a lot cooler.
Yeah sad to see the Vrod being forgotten when basically it's the foundation of Harley's liquid cooled engine
Wish HD would've made the "fuel" tank. with some type of lockable storage. Hmmm aa new aftermarket idea?
Design looks good, maintaining the classic Sportster. But one problem for me is the dashboard, why Harley-Davidson put their newest digital dashboard from Sportster S in this model?
Let’s go 😎
I can't unsee a leaf blower exhaust lol
Everyone knows it’s the first thing to go, lol
When Matt laidlaw sits on a sportster it’s like the average human on a Honda grom lol
WOW! the video production quality has gone up so much from when I first started watching you years ago! I'm proud of how far you've come as a long time viewer!
Feel like they're really going after the Indian Scout with this one... 👍
Can't wait for the: Bronx. This Vietnam Veterans preference: 975cc
engine and exhaust look awful. rest is nice.
90 horsepower and less than 500 pounds is one of the fastest Harley’s especially over touring bikes. The PA, Sportster S, and 975 best power to weight bikes
Before these new bikes the Street 750 was faster than any other Harley other than the V-Rod and the street only has 50-60 HP as well as weighing 60-70lbs more than this Nightster. Who knew that updating an ancient model to one the rest of the world was already utilizing for years would end up showing up the others
The MSRP on this thing feels like a an April fools joke. Save $4k and get the same bike from Honda
Look, HD made a metric cruiser. 🙄
You mean any bike from the 21st century?
This is one of the bikes im looking into for my second bike. Im also looking at a rebel 500, kawasaki eliminator, vulcan s, or indian scout sixty. Any of them would be great, but i need to sit of them and see how the ergonomics are
That laugh when you got on it haha, I love the high revving engine in these things! My V-Rod sounds like a Nascar with the drag pipes I'm running and I bet these things will sound absolutely rowdy with a set of pipes!
I really like the direction where harleys is going, but man, im a 6.1 guy and this bikes are so small for me.
I gotta be honest, I hope a bigger version of the RevMax ends up in the touring platforms. Some may say it lacks personality but thats not necessarily a bad thing.
I'm right there with you!
I'm a fan of the RevMax, but my only thing with that is...who wants to rev a tourer to the moon?
A light bike you can throw around all day and are comfortable ripping around on, absolutely. A touring bike made for going in a straight line all day comfortably? That's where having the torque and powerband of a traditional Harley V-twin really shines.
I think a bigger variation of the RevMax would work really well in the smaller Softail line (Standard, Slim, Street Bob, Fat Bob, Low Rider,) but the Fat Boy, Heritage, and the tourers are used for an entirely different purpose that might make having a really high revving engine with less of that grunt a little exhausting. It's not as if the M8 is really all that anemic up top like the Evos, either.
@@stevem4783 that’s the beauty of the Revolution Max engine is the VVT. You can have your lower in torque and your high rpm horsepower! The Indian challenger has torque and horsepower so just think what a larger Revolution Max engine would bring to the table.
@@KevinButler816 my dude, it isn't the same and you know it. I generally agree with you on these topics but there is a BIG difference between the grunt of a Twin Cam or M8 and something like a RevMax. It isn't always about that peak number, it's where it comes on and how you get there. Nobody wants to run a bagger at 4,500+ all day long.
@@KevinButler816 I know. And that "low-mid range" version of the RevMax still doesn't have the low-end grunt of an Evo, which is my point. On a tiny application like a Sportster it doesn't matter, but on an 800+lb bagger it unequivocally does. You want that immediate torque and feel as soon as you pull the throttle in the 1500-2500 range, no amount of variable valve timing in a DOHC V-twin is going to give you that and for the third time, nobody wants to run baggers where the power doesn't come on until 5k, which is the case even in the S's RevMax.
I've been waiting for this video 😀 this is the bike I was looking to get, since I saw it I loved the look 😀 I cant wait for my local dealer in Australia to get one so I can test one
Only some stores have it,,I'm 6 foot 2 ,,the shop I went in today said I wdnt like sport star s,,,,,now I'm interested in night star,,,bikes are few and far between in australia, annoying,,this new motor and tech I love
makes me appreciate my 883 air cooled motor, the sound, and the ability to customization the nuts and bolt.
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Lost me at 4:55 - that just doesn't sound like a Sportster should sound. This would have been the highlight of the ride on an Evo bike - idle and off idle in a tunnel.
That blip on the gas sounded like a GS500
All the way from Thailand and your HD jacket made in China ? do you remember the old advert ? "The great American freedom machine " ????????????????????????
It would look better if the engine was blacked out and there was something to hide or cover the the frame just behind the neck. As another mentioned, I'd rather wait for the Bronx.
Bronx was taken off the lineup, sadly. They shut that down a year or two ago. They're working on a race bike now that to me looks like a cross between a Ducati sport bike and a Daytona. Also apparently a new pan am with this 975 this Nightster has
the main difference between the original nighster and sporster was the entire bike was the engine was blacked out
@@nemplays7676 My Nightster's engine wasn't blacked out but it wasn't chromed either. Kinda grayish.
Can you do a direct comparison with the sportster s and the nightster?
I don't like this bike.
A smaller displacement Pan America dressed like a sportster is what this bike is.
I love my Pan America so someone will love this Nightster.
I love the look of the Nightster. It is very aesthetically pleasing. Those custom builds were dope
We are living in a very sick and demented society when people say that 975 cc's is too small of an engine . It's more power than a sensible rider will ever need.
Also, everyone does not immediately change the factory exhaust. Manufacturers do thousands of hours of research on every aspect of these bikes and you do not need to have the loudest exhaust in the neighborhood.
Let's get back to reality.
I just viewed this video and I'm wondering how much $$$ this new bike goes for, would you know? The local HD dealer has a new 2022 in their showroom that they're selling for $12,500.
I'm glad to see harley davidson trying new idea's 500lbs with 122 hp sounds like fun
It's nice to see Matt Laidlaw in Block's vid! He's a Harley man! He fits right in with Block's gang!
I own the HD and my wife rides the Kawasaki Vulcan S (650). Half the price, faster 0-60 and top in speed. I really should have thought the Harley purchase though.
Man that whole front end of the frame and headlight cowl looks a LOT like the Vrod 🤔
Wait, is this the Honda 1100?
So here is the thing Harley have now Removed this from the 2023 Line up and re added a new refresh model with some more features, but while they were playing in the sandbox Royal Enfield just released the Shotgun 650.
That one damn ugly engine. Actually I'll be honest that's an ugly bike. Kind looks like they've tried to do what Indian managed to do by going with a more modern look. Except I think Indian pulled it off.
I'm sure it's fun AF to ride but why does it look like an imitation of a fake plastic model of a bike?
Yes please….. I’m looking for my 1st bike loved the looks of the sportster but hated the suspension and engine.. so now I can stop looking at metric naked bikes
why would you be cramped at 5ft10?
Most bikes are designed around a 5ft8 rider model but i think nowadays in many bikes they use a 5ft10 model for designing ergonomics so anyone around average height should feel right at home on just about any bike
They need to fix the b-side of the bike. Honestly that unfinished side makes me hate this bike and pan America. It's makes them ugly, I can't just hide one side.
So this is a V-Rod Sportster?! Why not just keep the V-Rod?! Why stop making it in 2017?! I don’t get it 😢
That’s cool you’re in SB. Hope I see you riding around.
Departed a week ago but loved riding out there! Def would love to go back 🤘🏼
80 lbs lighter = cheaper parts, more plastic, less HD.. It's sad this machine will be replacing the air cooled Iron 883
That one 6'6 guy said he is way too tall for the bike? I'm 6'6 and I was considering buying it. Is that a deal breaker?
what a piece of s. brakes are way to weak, ancient front fork, no central strut, and overall very thin pipes. i wouldn't trust this thing
I think it's a great addition but I'll stick to my Sporty S, just wish HD dealers would stop marking up these bikes.
Call around and have dealers compete against one another to drive down the price and earn your business 😉
@@BlockheadMoto For sure! Honestly it worked out pretty well, I bought the Sport S and a 19 Fatboy in the same day so I got hooked up.
Gotta stand your ground. Find a dealer that doesn't do markup and give them your business, they're out there.
Harley ruined their brand with this engine... its more Japanese than the japanese 😅 even the Japanese would have kept the single pin crank
Great content (as always!); did you inquire if you can get cruise control as an option?
I can't afford this at the moment but I can't wait to grab one in a few years
As someone who’s not a cruiser guy, this is such a cool bike. But, and this is one of the reasons I’m not a cruise guy, at $14k MSRP, I’ll take a MT07/09/even MT10 for that price. Ducati Monster, a whole slew of Triumph Bonnie’s, street triple. Even one of the Indian Scouts. I would be so much more into HD, at least the new ones, if there weren’t so many bikes that meet my needs for (way) less. If I ever got one for free I’d be psyched, but for my own money, can’t justify it
Harley are their own worst enemy l swear.
They screwed up going liquid cooled, it's lost Character.
What’s this bikes name on the Website? I thought it was Nightster?
Sounds more like a Royal Enfield 650 twin than a Harley
The 270 degree parallel twin on the RE sounds better than this. This sounds more like Kawasaki's twin. It doesn't sound good.
How does it compare to the Indian scout?
Better power/weight ratio, better suspension, better brakes, more efficient, more comfortable, far more tech.
Price out a Scout Rogue with ABS and any other color than black and you're in the exact same range as the Nightster.
Too expensive for something that looks thrown together last minute.
Blockhead, I just bought my first Iron 883. And I gotta say it's beautiful. Quiet, but beautiful lol. And because of your learning to ride videos, I'll be on the road in no time!
Get a 1 1/8” sheet metal drill and run it into the outlet end of the mufflers (remove it first). Just drill through the plate in the middle, not the cat. Sounds pretty good but not too loud, runs better on top, and it’s almost free. Once I added an Arlen Ness big sucker and a tuner, HOLEY CRAP! Like a different bike, and don’t need earplugs.
So many youtube motorcycle channels in one! Love it!
Will there be a blockhead exhaust for the nightster?
This is literally a Indian scout bobber with a harley logo slapped on it
Excellent, comprehensive review. I am excited to test-ride it.
Between the Triumph Bobber and Indian Scout Bobber, it's a little on the high-side for price. This Harley is probably the faster bike, but after reading all the problems the Pan Am had with this motor...I question reliability. I'd rather buy the Triumph Bobber which comes with almost all the same feature but with more torque and a bullet-proof engine.
I love when you do rider ergonomics So Useful
Great video! Will be interesting to see what comes out for the after market parts. I could see possibly relocating the gauge cluster in the top of the airbox cover where the logo is and different bars,exhausts... I'd definitely have one!
Great informative video!
Hey BLOCK, question for ya. Where do you get your flannel button up shirts that you ride with? I've been considering getting some for riding around this summer, but don't know where to look, or get some.
They’re Dixxon flannel 👍🏼
@@BlockheadMoto Thanks BLOCK! much appreciated.
I feel like an entry level bike should be under 10 grand.
Love this color way
Would this bike keep up with R6 Yamaha
So from the point of view of a former ftr rider I don't get the price point of the nightster. With its 975 engine it has a $13499 price point. The 22 ftr base model is $12999, and the s model is $14999. But the ftr's have a 1200 cc engine. So the nightster is a great bike but when you compare it to the ftr the price point does not make sense. 🤔 What am I not understanding???????????????
I’m all for evolution, but wtf is that
I hear all harley ppl in videos talking about how this sportster would be considered slow to them….. and I’m here like… i thought 400 cc was decent for beginners. And here you’re saying 900-1000 is slow to them🥲😂for never riding yettt, 900’s seem too much to begin with😭
So from the point of view of a former ftr rider I don't get the price point of the nightster. With its 975 engine it has a $13499 price point. The 22 ftr base model is $12999, and the s model is $14999. But the ftr's have a 1200 cc engine. So the nightster is a great bike but when you compare it to the ftr the price point does not make sense. 🤔 What am I not understanding???????????????