IWI Tavor TS12: Most reliable, most accurate Bullpup 12 ga. Prove me wrong!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มี.ค. 2023
- Tube fed seems to be the way for the future. Arguably this is one of most enjoyable/futuristic shotguns on the market and we can't get enough!
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I got mine last week and I love this thing. I bought it at shooters world and took it in right away without knowing how to use it and this thing was flawless. The funny part was that when I turn around all the other shooters were behind me were like cheering ! It’s was like they all loved the action. That made me happy that I had bought one of these. You won’t go wrong wit the Tavor.
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Mine comes in TODAY and I’m so excited to have it. I have a mag fed KS12 and it still has minor feed issues every so often so this thing will be a welcome addition to the collection.
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Had mine for 3 years. They have an ammo spec for about 150 rounds which is at least 1200 fps @ 1 1/8 oz minimum. Also if using the 2 3/4 " shells the L gas setting should be used. When shooting 3 " shells the gas should be set to H gas setting. The manual warns against using surplus foreign ammo also.
Lots of people that have problems are not following the manual instructions. When you read the manual expect better results. Keeping the gas chamber clean is really a key to this shotgun.
Cleaning and oiling is always key. It’s crazy these people always want to see a uncleaned gun at the range to see how it does. Why? Are they carrying a gun around for defense uncleaned? Geese. Thanks for watching and sharing and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
Great info, thanks! I have the opportunity to trade-in an 870DM on a barely-used TS12 at my local shop today, and I think it's a done deal after watching a few reviews and a couple similar comments.
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Thank you for demonstrating the functions.
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I too am a proud owner of a TS12. Love it and think its no gimmick.
Read some of the comments. Been so busy with life only had time to put a hundred rounds or so through it.
Never did any type of prep work on it and used cheap barely fps spec ammo on it.
Had a couple failure to fully eject moments with it. Nothing alarming.
And not at all to steal thunder from this ch but those with issues with their TS12 should check out Military Arms Channel's vid on his.
He had loads of issues till he broke it down and gave it a good lube. Then ran like a dream and ended up loving it.
Just thought this might help alleviate some of the complaints.
Happy you like yours G Square. She's a killer home defense shot gun and more imo
Absolutely it is. We’ve put about 600 rounds through it to date and only cleaned once and it hasn’t failed in any way not once. Thanks for watching and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
I just put my first 200 rounds through my TS12. I had 3 malfunctions right at the start, I flipped that gas switch to low, everything after the 1st 3 rounds ran without any problems. I have the aftermaket butt stock, charging handle and compensator on mine. The comp along with the butt stock made it easier to shoot and control. The comp might be what causes me to have to run that gas control on low. I think all 3 of those parts are worth having.😊
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Which "comp" are you running? Are you talking about the Manicore arms muzzle brake barrel nut replacement? I have one of those and find it's great for using extended choke tubes. Some, like my TruGlo Turkey choke has a small thickness increase after the muzzle that doesn't fit inside the lip of the factory barrel nut.
The JMAC Customs Muzzle Brake though is the cats pajamas IMO. That baby comes as a true gas-redirecting muzzle brake design with improved cylinder choke.
No experience with the Carson's breaching muzzle brakes, but there are a few designs, and they usually come in various choke sizes too. Not sure how functional they are, but they look cool and should allow for stable/sticking to a door when breeching a lock.
I hope little man can answer this for you. Thanks for watching
@@1977TheHammer My bad on my parts description, it is the Manicore Muzzle Brake as you described. I picked up all 3 of the pieces that they offered. The brake and butt pad improves my abilities and endurance with the TS12 a lot. I now have 380 rounds through it, outside of the first 3 rounds it has eaten everything I have fed it. I have owned a Mossberg 930 semi auto shotgun, a very early version of the Beretta semi auto, and a Benelli M2 Clone shotgun, the TS12 is definitely the shotgun that I have performed the best with. I have shot Winchester 00, Federal 00 and 000, Kent Upland #6, and some 3" 00 that I found on sale at Big 5 Sporting Goods that I can't remember the name of the brand, it was the lowest performing ammo that I have shot, I am glad it was on sale. 😂
I am going to clean it, then put another 50 rounds through it, if it doesn't have any malfunctions I will feel great about it being my primary tool for the house.
Happy New Year!!!
i would love to see an accessory video for the ts12. good luck with your channel.
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I bought one when they first came out, still have it and I love it. I have a light on it for home defense purposes, but to tell the truth, the way this thing cycles 00 buck (very controllable even rapid fire), and the capacity, I think it is probably best suited to quell a riot, lol.
Agreed this is the first time I’ve switch out my Mossberg 12 gauge for home defense. This thing makes perfect sense for home defense. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already.
Mine has proven to be very reliable, OTB. Now working with the Tavor 7.
I plan to buy all the offerings. Thanks for watching please be sure to subscribe
Just subscribed! Thumbs up too! You earned it. Strait to the point video. I'm a big fan of FDE also. Your showing the true color in sun light. Looks proper compared to the stck photos. This is a planned next purchase. Hope is not a plan, but I hope I have no issues. My other IWI products run 100%. Also thanks for showing that the tubes rotate either direction.
I’ve never owned a IWI product that has had a single issue. Thanks for subbing
Just picked mine up from the FFL las week. Can't wait to get it to the range. I have an X95 and I'm expecting this weapon to be just as perfect but for a different purpose and use. Thanks for the review.
Love the X95 we have several reviews on it as well. Love IWI products. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
Surprising to hear that reliability has been flawless for you. I'm holding out for version two of the TS12. I'm getting it for home defense and don't want to deal with the ejection problems that many have encountered. When I called IWI's American distributor, they said problems occur only with inexperienced shooters, but that doesn't seem to always be the case.
I’m glad I didn’t get one of those. I haven’t really heard of problems with it but if there is I’m glad mine has been great. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
I was an early adopter and after 100-150 rounds I never had another issue. Things rock solid.
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Undoubtedly a piece of superior home defense weaponry. I can’t imagine anyone trying to break in with that type of firepower and performance.
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YES, I HAVE TOO!😀👍💪
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I love mine!
Yes sir it’s a blast. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
I'm not really a shotgun guy, but this TS12 is really a cool piece of technology!
Yes sir it is and fun to shoot. Surprisingly very controllable and reliable. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment. Please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already.
16 plus 1 on the carrier is 17 total for 2 3/4 13 plus 1 on the carrier is 14 for 3”
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I'm seriously looking at getting this but I'm reading reviews where people are saying 2% failure to feed or eject. Is it really that bad if you use the minimum velocity spec shells?
I’ll try my very best not to watch other reviews or to do a ton of research on a particular firearm because of course I’ve carried the same four or five firearms for probably 10 or 12 years so I’m really not buying these firearms necessarily for my own personal use or for a purpose because I already have firearms that Meet that demand that I am comfortable with. I primarily buy these guns for review purposes because they have some interest on TH-cam and of course sometimes I buy them because I just think they’re cool and would like to own them however, I don’t feel as though I can give a unbiased personal review if I simply look at what other people say or other people experience And just regurgitate what they say or sometimes Will calls you to also fabricate problems. The only thing that I can speak to is my personal experience, which is nothing but pleasant. About 400 to maybe 500 rounds of ammunition put through this gun, I cannot recall having a single failure, and if I did, it certainly was not to that degree, but I’m going to say I did not have any. I feel as though I would remember. Thanks for watching and for commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you have not already.
IWI should have made this in 20mm, and chamber it in 20mm high explosive low velocity grenades
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LMAO... well... that would change the home defense situation a bit.
I noticed some left hand shooting. How was it to shoot it from the left side? I bought one of these and as a left handed shooter, I need to know I'f I should have it converted, or just run it the way it is. ---Thanks!
Definitely switch it over not fun at all. Thanks for watching and commenting and please. W sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
IWI sells a left handed version, or if you send them your right handed model, they'll convert it over for you. (ejection cover is swapped, bolt ejects left, and the safety is flipped around).
@1977TheHammer yeah if you watch a few videos that is relatively easy to do yourself at home. Thanks for watching and for commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you have not already.
Can you tell me what type of sites you have on the gun and where you can buy them at?
www.leapers.com/products/iron-sights/type/flip-up-sights.html
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I had my mind dead set on a KSG because of the bullpup size and high capacity UNTIL I seen this. Now I'm wondering if the extra money for it is justified. Any thoughts? I heard you had to run ammo that is over 1200 FPS with this shotgun. Do you know if that's true?
We have ran lees and more than 1200 with zero issues. With that being said most semi auto shotgun makers recommend running 12 or 1300 plus for 250 to 400 break in rounds. Thanks for watching and commenting and please be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
@@GSquaredTactical yessir thank you for the info and reply
I wanted a ksg also however what they dont tell you is that the small size makes for some wicked and painful recoil. Its also not semi automatic. Do you really want to have to pump each shot in a middle of a firefight? I went with the Tavor due to these considerations.
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One thing you need to remember with a tactical shotgun that doesn't really apply to shotguns for clays/skeet/trap or hunting and general plinking... is the tactical part.
If you're doing this under duress, human fight or flight response kicks in. Sight tunnels, blood rushes to the brain/torso, and muscles contract/tighten towards a fetal position. This is why boxers tighten up and turtle instinctively. It's why pistol shooter tighten up their arms, shoulders, and neck to turtle to the point they'll put tape over the top of their glasses to force themselves to keep their head up. It's also why pump actions can be trouble... short stroking.
Every military knows that giving new shooters semi and full auto firearms is more effective than break/lever/pump/slam-fire actions. The less manual dexterity / manipulation you need to get those rounds down range, the quicker and more accurate they'll be.
A short stroke with a pump isn't the end of the world in training, but it could be when under duress. Short strokes don't just give you an empty chamber, it goes unnoticed until you pull the trigger and get nothing out of it. In duress, any time you pull the trigger, its because you're in a dangerous situation. Not having that round means a lot of things, none of them good. The worst case is that you think you're out of shells and start to do a tactical reload costing you even more time.
In a tactical shotgun, semi-auto is preferable.
Can the choke that comes with it shoot 12 ga slugs.
Only with cylinder and improved cylinder chokes. Thanks for watching and commenting and be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already
Mine gets a shell hung under the bolt sometimes when twisting the tubes. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong or if it just needs more break in time. Any suggestions?
If never had an issue from day one. Has it done it with different ammunitions or using the same ammo?
I dropped how many shells I put in (3in mag) to 3 a tube, still did it. I went to two and three quarter, just three shells a tube, still did it, not every time, but it did it. It never did it when I was shooting, just when turning the tubes like loading and unloading.
P.S. Yes, it’s done it from day one.
We will try that at the range the next time we do a follow up, that’s odd to say the least. Please subscribe if you haven’t already and go check us out on rumble
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I’m going to take it down, clean and inspect. I just got discouraged and put it in the safe. Will let you know if I find any defects or anything else. Gonna try to pay close attention to the tube magazines.
Try a tavor 7 with a Apollo max muzzle comp mine has no recoil in 7.62 thats saying something coming from a bullpup
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It’ll hold 17 rounds of 2 3/4” if you ghost load it. 😉
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17 for a ghost loaded load out in 2.75".... but... the real secret is that 2.25" shells fire and cycle fine in the TS12 as well. Don't try those super short 2" or 1.75" shells (which are so light hitting they're garbage anyway)... but the Noble Sport 2.25" mini buckshot shells will load and cycle fine.
Noble Sport 2.25" mini buckshot shells allow you to load 6 per tube... meaning 20 shells total (3x6 +1 +1).
Also, quad-loading the TS12 is super easy compared to most shotguns.
It gives more credibility to a review when the channel purchases the product
That is true and up until now the only guns we have ever been given was from Taurus, Stoager, LT and Staccato gave us one. However if you will look at a couple optic reviews we done we actually shot one of them with a shotgun on camera it was so horrible. The owner of the company commented on the video and trying discrediting us and I reached out letting him know I would post communication between us on social media and he stopped. We would love to get guns free because it cost us a small fortune to buy these guns in some cases just for review and we barely make enough money from TH-cam to cover ammo each month. However I promise you it wouldn’t matter if it was given to us or not and I can tell you there have been companies I’ll leave unnamed that refused to send us stuff because we told them if it wasn’t up to par we would say as much. It’s so sad that you can’t trust what people say on TH-cam in a lot of cases because you don’t know if they are being paid to say it. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe if you haven’t already.
Team Tavor TS12
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