Looking to sell two awesome coolermaster keyboards. hit me up for details. jk i wanted these keyboards to be amazing because they look so good. But they're terrible. DON'T BE FOOLED
Do you think that a similar kind of design (flat keycaps, laptop style) but with regular cherry switches and correct spacing between keys could work? I just can't stand those keyboards that look like they're straight up from the '70s...
u are wrong Sir! we love hearing critical feedback. It’s hard to please everyone with every product so that’s why we have a wide selection with different switches, features, sizes, etc. What works for some might not work for others. Thousands of people around the world have already gotten these boards without complaint. The switches themselves are called “low profile switches” and we never advertised the board as being a low profile keyboard.
@@CoolerMasterGaming So nice of you checking user's response. I really respect your level of concern on customer satisfaction. Unlike these Bullshit Dell guys, who ignore you right in your face with Coil Vineing XPS 15.
What? It literally says “low profile” on your channel. How is that not “advertising”. Stop it - you guys make a good looking keyboard that’s not comfortable to type on. Just learn from your mistakes. No need to make excuses. Just looks petty. Send the next model with improvements to Dave if you’re serious about this product.
The Hairmonster101 My point is that prior to watching this video, I had never seen a keyboard video or shown interest to keyboards yet one day my recommended is full of keyboard related videos. I thought that was pretty clear but I guess not
But hey, it's RGB, which gives you 20% more fps. And if you set the leds to green, your pc will use less power and if you set them blue, your pc will run cooler.
I'm using the SK650 right now prior to my review. Not the easiest to type on and definitely expensive by comparison. I think it's more a showpiece than it is a truly "functional" keyboard.
Hey ScienceStudio, the keyboard takes about a week to get used to. We’ve been using them in the office and they’re more spaced it and better to type on than laptops. We all have our new travel keyboard now!
L Raven he lists each reason, also, there is no benefit to making a bad review. If anything, he is losing a brands trust in him just for an honest review. Also you spelled unbiased wrong.
One of the best, or at least more comfortable quiet which I LOVE and great for typing keyboards ive ever bought was a standard $20 wireless logitech keyboard (cant quite remember but it was cheap)
I love the fact how it has a daughter board for the type c port, so that you can repair it when the type c port failes. that's good engineering to me. yes it makes the board a bit higher, but certainly not that much if you engineer it right.
Dude I just bought it and returned it. The actual switches themselves type like *ss. They're horrible - worse than a membrane keyboard. Not only that if you are going to be replacing a daughter board it's not a stretch to re-solder a USB connector. I've soldered/switched micro-USB on a Bluetooth speaker... I'm not sure how much harder USB-C is but the micro-USB didn't require any specialized solder tips - just good flux and a 25$ soldering iron with smaller tip..
Hey do the hexgears x-1 still have the problem with the actuation point and the tactile bump not being aligned with the choc whites and the choc brown because I was considering getting the choc reds because they're linear so they won't have that problem
My own experience, the connection is just horrible. Bluetooth connection always drop and require re-pair. And the white switch also occasionally miss a key
i like the style of this video. short, clean, to the point, yet thorough in your assertions. i currently use a cheap amazon keyboard that bends under the weight of my hands, and while it works and i actually really enjoy the way the keys feel, i am really excited to get into keyboards.
Imo Dave is the best and most honest reviewer. I was really attracted to this keyboard myself. Dodging this one until coolermaster makes a revision that is Dave approved. :P
At first I thought Dave was too low energy, but his consistency and honesty makes it so easy to trust his views. He never spins bad information to be 'might not be for everyone' etc.
Hey Jun, it’s always great to see different views on our products. We’re one of the first to design a whole board for “cherry mx low profile switches.” And full disclaimer, we never advertised this board as a “low profile keyboard,” although it is a lot slimmer compared to the average mechanical keyboard. It’s all personal preference. We wanted to make something sleek and slim but with a great cherry mx typing experience.
For honest review, shout out to Flossy Carter. He's doing the best honest reviews in the game. But Dave is right there with much more cool animation and more entertaining stuffs.
Hey Marc, yep we wanted to design a whole new layout for Cherry MX’s new low profile switches. We wanted it to be sleek, slim and reach out to different demographics. Like most slim keyboards, the keycaps are not replaceable and we had to design our own stabilizers to have it work with the size of the board.
Was seriously about to buy this CoolerMaster model. It was between this and the Keychron K3. Thanks for saving me some headaches with the Coolermaster. Going with the K3 instead now.
I have been using a cooler master cmstorm quick fire rapid with cherry mx brown for 5 or so years and i love it. I have other mechanical keyboards, but this is the one i keep comming back too. Thanks for the information and time to put this video togther. Respect and apperication. Videos are time, work , and praise is deserved
no no don't do that please for the love of god don't you will have a lot of typos and you're just gonna press random keys Trust me i have experience and am writing on a keyboard like this and have already made 7 typos so just don't
Got the larger one for my mother's office setup for $75 buck off amazon. Its used in a professional environment, minimalist. Took about half a week for her to flow but she loves it. Its advantages are its aesthetics and that it feels like a superior laptop keyboard, something that appeals to some people, but not others. If you have a minimalist docking setup, this is nice.
The separated USB connector is actually a very good design choice because keyboards with detachable cables are notorious for having loose USB ports after a while of use, so the separated chip is easier and cheaper to replace. Keychron has no plans to make layouts for non-US so that's out the window for me.
4:33 is where you can hear how the keys sound -- thank you for this -- i wanted to hear what they sounded like before committing to a new keyboard -- currently using a Logi K750
I wish you said more about the issues with the Keychron K1, mainly that the keys fire before the click. The Hexgears X-1 also seem to have a similar issue. For a lot of people, this is a dealbreaker, as the click is supposed to serve as an indication for the actuation point. Unfortunately though, as far as I know, there isn't currently a good chiclet TKL keyboard with back lighting (mechanical or not).
In the market for a new keyboard and finally I come across a host that not only understands what it is he's talking about but delivers it soundly as well. Nicely done, and agree with your review.
the intro music is sick dude! so chill. back then when we still don't have smartphone, we gotta be careful when disassembling keyboard buttons... if we forgot the correct arrangement, we're kinda screwed until we see another keyboard haha.
if you're into a gaming review channel, check out Unwrap, they are pretty good at video games and i really like their reviews. they might do a review on a gaming mouse or keyboard and sometimes theyll compare big streamer's mice headphones, keyboards, bungees, ect.
Okay so I want to defend this keyboard. At least to the extent that I can. I have had this (SK630) keyboard for a week now and have thoroughly enjoyed it but D2D did make some valid points. 1. It isn't THAT low profile but it is a lot better than what I am coming from and is still great for me 2. Key caps are pretty close together but its better than my laptop so I am already used to it 3. Key caps have no dish but it a low profile keyboard and I don't think it would look right if it did Other things Eber from HardwareCunucks said: 1. No mute key but can be programmed in with software 2. No brightness control but can be changed in the software by adding more black to the color 3. No height adjust feet but I don't use anyways Responding to RandomFrankP - I wanted the Hexgears X1 sooo bad but a lot of the customer reviews complained about manufacturing issues and it is currently unavailable in most configs Pros of this keyboard: 1. Software - total key remapping and macros that allow mouse clicks too 2. shorter than most standard keyboards 3. I trust cherry and cooler master alot more than the smaller companies and Choc switches 4. light but does not move on desk and does not flex at all All in all I love the keyboard and I don't mind some of the short comings or quirks that it has. Its not for everyone but I love it!
Replying to your first statement. The keyboard is indeed lower profile than most gaming keyboards you would find, but if you can ditch the lighting there are keyboards with normal Cherry MX switches that are only 3mm higher. The Cherry MX Board 3.0 for instance is only a tad higher, the price is a lot lower and it doesn't have the problem with spacing that was mentioned. MX Board 1.0 is the same height, it even includes lighting and still has regular sized Cherry MX. It just doesn't feel right when keyboards that aren't marketed as low-profile are 1/10 higher or not at all than a keyboard that is designed to be low profile
never had a prob on laptop keyboards. lenovo even releases a separate thinkpad keyboard with dished and contoured keycaps. just something to get used to, not a defect.
Is the Keychron K1 really $75 for an RGB, Bluetooth, mechanical keyboard?! And one that looks so good AND charges over USB-C?!?! It looks way too good to be true for such a low cost.
For the money of the rgb version you could also get an anne pro 2. Not low profile, but it has the features you listed and im really loving it right now
Just picked up a Roccat Vulcan - Low Profile Keyboard - for just $75 at a second hand shop (was still new). Really pleased with it so far. Kind of loud, but other than that.
I don't know exactly how they marketed it, but I interpret "low profile" to be the switch height (ie. it has low profile switches). Not specifically the keyboard thickness itself. I'm way more interested in the key travel, if it's high I'll just use a wrist support.
I don't know why people keep complaining about spacing! I actually can't type on the typical mechanical keyboards because the keys are too far apart and I always hit the side of the keys
For me, if the keys are too close, I struggle to type as I keep hitting adjacent keys to the ones I target. For example, I have two keyboards - a Dell KB216 full size Chiclet membrane keyboard and a Logitech K230 compact wireless keyboard. The former has large spacing and is much, more easy to use and accurate than the latter in which the keys are way too close to each other. I will be receiving my first ever mechanical keyboard - Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L white LED, Cherry blue - today and will see how it goes. PS: I think people complain about spacing for the same reason that you do. You need short spacing while others need full spacing.
got it, despite all of the reviews saying "it's shit" best keyboard i ever got. I was worried about the keys as well, but once you get used to it, your hand flies very fast over the caps! great keyboard
@@marcusborderlands6177 many ! many many keyboards. once you get used to this thing, its the best ever! VERY nice to type on, and the media keys are fantastically placed when you use your thumb on the fn symbol, you can change media easily even when gaming. it's awesome!
I will say after having the CoolerMaster SK650 for a year, it was definitely a challenge not hitting almost every key at once when first using it, but after a while it stopped becoming a problem, but during then; how it looked and felt still outweighed how difficult it was to type on at first.
@zuckdaddy1596 I don't believe I did, I haven't used that keyboard in a while, but I have a friend still using them without issues, you might have just been unlucky.
Damn Dave, first time seeing one of your videos and wow you actually reviewed and compared them in a meaningful extensive way! Taking them apart, comparing them to multiple other keyboards and demonstrating the quirks on these seemingly 'universal' features. Amazing! Best of all you even recorded the sound of typing on them in quick succession, you can tell so much about a keyboard by how it sounds, it's a major aspect. I hit the keys hard but shallow, and so big, heavy, clicky mechanical switches don't suit me because it sounds like I'm drumming and occasionally the keys won't register because I don't depress them far enough, so I use low profile, short & flat keyboards that are quiet. Was seriously interested in the concept of a low profile mechanical keyboard but your review has saved me like what $150? Thanks man. Genuinely. Thank you. Subbed.
Own them for nearly a year before some keys started registering double presses even though I've only pressed them once. They're very hard to type with speed and accuracy in because of the spacing. You will end up having lots of typos while using these
Hi Dave. Great vid as usual. :) They need to create a keycap set for these but with a strong angled bezel to make the top of the cap take less space which in turn will spread them apart. They should also make the whole set to have a concave curvature (albeit shallower) along the vertical axis as in a normal mech keyboard. With those in place they would have a nice KB. The sound of the keys is quite perfect already. Optionally, since the keycap's bezel are angled they could leave the last 2mm at the bottom of each cap white, allowing the caps to have a nice RGB lit border. CoolerMaster should just team up with Corsair and both use iCUE (make iCUE a framework for all these companies) instead of competing for RGB implementations. Having multiple RGB apps is a big NO NO! Wireless makes no sense, who would bring a laptop along with a KB anyway? Only pro gamers I guess, and they prefer to go wired anyway. So I would save the cost of a wireless device and use the extra resources to create a better keyboard.
ah man, I reeeally need to thank you. I saw this video a cople times in recomended, but now I am (was) looking for a TKL especially low profile keyboard. I was close to buying this SK650, but it was kind of expensive so I searched some more but I didn't see any. Than I saw your video, I didn't knew it was about low profile keyboards before so I watched it and the second I saw this alternative I got on amazon and saw $79 price tag. And I immediately knew I was going to buy this instead. So thank you again, bc you just saved me like $40 and a pretty not low profile keyboard.
I come from a lapop and from a logitech k360, and this keyboard looks terrific to me in comparison with a classic mechanical keyboard. It depends what you are used too.
I actually like how they have the USB C PCB seperate from the main PCB, it makes it easier to replace the port down the line (and my family usually needs to retire keyboards because of damages connectors that we don't have time to fix, which meana we often end up purchasing a ton of cheap keyboards).
Hi Dave, can you recommend any low profile 75% or 60% keyboards? The Keychron K1 looks great but is far too big at 87 keys. The SK621 as you point out is not low profile. Same with the Royal Kludge RK61/Skyloong K61/Anne Pro 2/Ducky One2/Vortexgear Pok3r. The Hexgears X-1 is close but too big, same with Tesoro and Havit KB390L. The few serious options I can see are the Logitech K380, Bazalia 8839, Magic_Refiner MK10 and Apple Magic Keyboard but they all have their flaws...
I'd also consider a compact board with ten key and bluetooth as long as it's low-profile. Unfortunately there are only really two realistic candidates, the Hexgears X-1 and Drevo Joyeuse version 1. Unfortunately both are almost impossible to find and the X-1 has many flaws including very flaky bluetooth and faulty switches while the Drevo is even rarer in the bluetooth form, is a bit bulky and has that hideous gap. My endgame would probably be a bluetooth Vortex Tab 90M but without the bezel and with low profike keys instead of the massive ones it sports. A Red Scarf III or Vortex Race 3 colour scheme for keycaps would be great too.
i bought the newer model 650 which they now send you complimentary regular shaped keys for a full on mechanical keyboard feel. Ive been practicing typing on it for 3 days now and im up to 90 wpm with a 96-98% accuracy rate. i am by no means an expert typist. But for my first mechanical keyboard experience and my first RGB keyboard this was worth every penny. i do see what hes talking about when he mentions your fingers brushing against near by keys. and yes that took some getting used to but it by no means has lessened my accuracy. i honestly think his video is focused towards keyboard veterans and hobbyists because from my experience with it. its definitely worth the value.
I would say now, I use a logitech g915, and i would say they are a really good low profile keyboard with nice keycaps that are not so super spaced out, and if your also transitioning from a gaming laptop to a desktop, its definitely something to keep in mind to help you transition to future gaming keyboards if your not so used to the keycaps on mechanical keyboards.
I just bought the Logitech G815 today, it was super hard to justify spending so much on a keyboard, but honestly this is the best keyboard I have ever typed on and purchased. It is a huge jump from the Logitech G413 I had prior. Even the guy at the checkout register was like "Dude, good choice for a keyboard, one of the best" so that made me feel a little better about the purchase. I have the "clicky" type and it sounds good and looks so aesthetically pleasing
In their BladeMaster yes, in other ones they use imitations switches that work well imo. If you're looking to replace the keycaps on your Drevo keyboard it's compatible with MX keycaps
Looking to sell two awesome coolermaster keyboards. hit me up for details. jk
i wanted these keyboards to be amazing because they look so good. But they're terrible. DON'T BE FOOLED
Regular man: I’m look to BUY an keyboard !
The man who watched the video: OH look DAVE HAS 2!
I am interested in buying the full size keyboard
What is the point of cherry stems if u can't swap the caps?
Do you think that a similar kind of design (flat keycaps, laptop style) but with regular cherry switches and correct spacing between keys could work?
I just can't stand those keyboards that look like they're straight up from the '70s...
Dave waiting for ISV certified workstations laptops review
Can't avoid them if I can't buy them
*Laughs in broke*
How do I like this twice
😂
This is true ;-;
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Cant afford would of been better
Yes, avoid keyboards with only the letters B-A-D on them
qwertyuiopBADfghjklzxcvbnm
abcdefghBADhhgsuejdjwodz
@@VineVast *ONLY*
Yes.
oh shit i have to throw mine away
I'll buy a typewriter instead.
Fasshandi Vagischlande i d k h o w t o u s e
*chopstick typing intensifies*
Ill just by a piano, its the best loud profile.
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This is why companies don't like sending stuff to Dave and it's the same reason why I'm subscribed.
Honest reviews and nothing else
u are wrong Sir! we love hearing critical feedback. It’s hard to please everyone with every product so that’s why we have a wide selection with different switches, features, sizes, etc. What works for some might not work for others. Thousands of people around the world have already gotten these boards without complaint. The switches themselves are called “low profile switches” and we never advertised the board as being a low profile keyboard.
Cooler Master Gaming uh the second I clicked on your channel it says keep a low profile xD
@@CoolerMasterGaming So nice of you checking user's response. I really respect your level of concern on customer satisfaction. Unlike these Bullshit Dell guys, who ignore you right in your face with Coil Vineing XPS 15.
@@CoolerMasterGaming shut up, you guys didnt even send him a reviem unit....
"didnt even advertise"
get a load of this guy
What? It literally says “low profile” on your channel. How is that not “advertising”. Stop it - you guys make a good looking keyboard that’s not comfortable to type on. Just learn from your mistakes. No need to make excuses. Just looks petty. Send the next model with improvements to Dave if you’re serious about this product.
1:58 i like how the screwdriver rolled away but not quite far just enough so it can still be in the scene
TH-cam guys do the most
I love how you're more focused on the screwdriver than the actual video lol 😂
it needs its showtime. it's not getting paid enough.
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I love where you attention is going to
Why am I suddenly getting so many keyboard recommendations
Cookies: "allow us to introduce ourselves..."
I mean you did watch it right
The Hairmonster101 My point is that prior to watching this video, I had never seen a keyboard video or shown interest to keyboards yet one day my recommended is full of keyboard related videos. I thought that was pretty clear but I guess not
I Clara the point for TH-cam recommendations is to show videos you will watch and they did that
And it could be you seeing any tech videos or anything
Why does he lowkey kinda look like if mr bean was young and asian
RiceField Worker lol
Exactly
Looks more like an Asian David Archuleta
A "low-profile" mr bean
@@AxleTrade it's the hair
dave protec
dave attac
most importantly he's not afraid to give your product crap.
dave tell you to avoid dat
Perfect
Lol
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@Aravind Krishna ...
in conclusion: they're low-profile but they're not.
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They are , 3.2 distance is low profile .
@@Tripokaridos22 you need to practice your punctuation
They are low profile, but they're not "lower" profile (as Dave said once in this video) :D
Dave: *tells us to avoid those keyboards even though they light up in RGB*
_The Linus Tech Tips team is typing..._
@@potato_x69 you're*
BEGONE Normie
@@andyt144 you're just jealous of him
Andy T ...
As time passes, it's getting harder to ignore you. Won't deny it's kind of annoying. Literally each and every comment section!!
But hey, it's RGB, which gives you 20% more fps. And if you set the leds to green, your pc will use less power and if you set them blue, your pc will run cooler.
sound like a game item
yeah, now my pc can run doom stable 60 fps on ultra with that keyboard.
get a gaming chair aswell! it will boost you fps by an additional 100 and 200 if it has rgb
Pure facts l&d
Sounds like you can´t afford an rbg keyboard.
Omg, I forgot what it felt like to watch a video that got straight to the point.
Right? Caught me off guard as well. This comment was brought to you by Squarespace.
I'm using the SK650 right now prior to my review. Not the easiest to type on and definitely expensive by comparison. I think it's more a showpiece than it is a truly "functional" keyboard.
Really just stick with scissor switches if you want a clean look rather than a good keyfeel
Better off making ur own keyboard if u want a showpiece.
Hey ScienceStudio, the keyboard takes about a week to get used to. We’ve been using them in the office and they’re more spaced it and better to type on than laptops. We all have our new travel keyboard now!
@@CoolerMasterGaming Good to see cooler master listening to tech tubers critiques 👍👍👍
@@CoolerMasterGaming shut up
CoolerMaster: "we're gonna beat our competitors by getting free publicity from this TH-cam dude"
_exact opposite happens_
Chris *curb your enthusiasm music plays*
Hopefully they learn from the honest reviews to better their products.
*surprised pikachu*
Im the 1000th like!
L Raven he lists each reason, also, there is no benefit to making a bad review. If anything, he is losing a brands trust in him just for an honest review. Also you spelled unbiased wrong.
4:34 When my Boss is fast approaching my desk
LMAO )
those noises of the keys somehow makes me relaxed. like its satisfying or something
Lmao 😂
He aint typing any words tho lol.
@@roblo6387 it was a joke lol
why am I even watching this I have a 5€ trash keyboard and I'm perfectly fine with it xD
what keyboard?
One of the best, or at least more comfortable quiet which I LOVE and great for typing keyboards ive ever bought was a standard $20 wireless logitech keyboard (cant quite remember but it was cheap)
@@jameskennedy6227 ok, nice, *nobody asked if you have It or no*
@@jameskennedy6227 cynosa blows
Hiding From The Germs[] you wish u had one
I guess Dave is not going to get CoolerMaster sponsorship.
Already; thus the video.
juan dela lol
juan dela REVENGE! “Don’t sponsor me, ah?”
this actually is good for coolermaster, feedback for their product, it's not a hate review.
Yup
I love the fact how it has a daughter board for the type c port, so that you can repair it when the type c port failes. that's good engineering to me. yes it makes the board a bit higher, but certainly not that much if you engineer it right.
Dude I just bought it and returned it. The actual switches themselves type like *ss. They're horrible - worse than a membrane keyboard. Not only that if you are going to be replacing a daughter board it's not a stretch to re-solder a USB connector. I've soldered/switched micro-USB on a Bluetooth speaker... I'm not sure how much harder USB-C is but the micro-USB didn't require any specialized solder tips - just good flux and a 25$ soldering iron with smaller tip..
Check out the Hexgears X1 man, you'll dig it
Hey do the hexgears x-1 still have the problem with the actuation point and the tactile bump not being aligned with the choc whites and the choc brown because I was considering getting the choc reds because they're linear so they won't have that problem
Those reviews say otherwise. Yikes.
My own experience, the connection is just horrible. Bluetooth connection always drop and require re-pair. And the white switch also occasionally miss a key
I watched your video on it, I've just seen SO MANY VERY BAD reviews but I want it so bad.. I'm split!😢
How about the Tesoro Gram XS?
Apple's Butterfly keyboard has left the chat
Wait till they announce their latest "quantum keyboard technology".😤😤
@@coffee-vz1nr Lmao
I love Apple’s 3rd gen butterfly keyboard. My personal fav is Razer’s high end keyboard that cost $200 but I forgot the name
Why are you in every goddamn comment section
@well wisher can't take a joke? Smh
i like the style of this video. short, clean, to the point, yet thorough in your assertions. i currently use a cheap amazon keyboard that bends under the weight of my hands, and while it works and i actually really enjoy the way the keys feel, i am really excited to get into keyboards.
Legend has it that Dave wears an underwear and no pants while recording.
Correct
@@Dave2D 😂wow
Haha 🤣
its ture, i am the record cam
😂😂😂😂😂
In conclusion: They're not low, they are tall.
And also: the keys are too close together, and too flat. So you make more typos.
‘low profile’
‘laptop keyboard’
They are different
I am trash it’s a joke
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@@toby1385 r/woooosh
@@azaalea. no, just no
Dave Lee is the realest tech guy out there
chyrosran22 and rocket jump ninja: Am i a joke to you?
Except for his irrational, stockholm-syndrom driven love for Apple stuff
Sarah A what about the tech nigga?
Not to be racist btw
Stan Lee
I just love how you transparently described the keyboards. Very informative, thus very helpful. Thanks!
Imo Dave is the best and most honest reviewer. I was really attracted to this keyboard myself. Dodging this one until coolermaster makes a revision that is Dave approved. :P
At first I thought Dave was too low energy, but his consistency and honesty makes it so easy to trust his views. He never spins bad information to be 'might not be for everyone' etc.
Hey Jun, it’s always great to see different views on our products. We’re one of the first to design a whole board for “cherry mx low profile switches.” And full disclaimer, we never advertised this board as a “low profile keyboard,” although it is a lot slimmer compared to the average mechanical keyboard. It’s all personal preference. We wanted to make something sleek and slim but with a great cherry mx typing experience.
For honest review, shout out to Flossy Carter. He's doing the best honest reviews in the game. But Dave is right there with much more cool animation and more entertaining stuffs.
@@hungtrumno did you just forget MKBHD?
@@arnav3133 nope I did not. MKBHD is the goat in tech review industry. But for the most honest emotions and reviews, nobody can surpass Floss.
*me:* B A D... That's an odd layout
*Also me:* OH BAD
you can arrange the keycaps
4:27 he's probably typing out a great meme
It's still a pretty keyboard though
One of the prettiest
but pretty doesn’t equal good just looks good
Don't fall for it!
Hey Marc, yep we wanted to design a whole new layout for Cherry MX’s new low profile switches. We wanted it to be sleek, slim and reach out to different demographics. Like most slim keyboards, the keycaps are not replaceable and we had to design our own stabilizers to have it work with the size of the board.
True. So hard to resist
I DON T NEED ANY KEYBOARD
I can Still type only WITH MY MOUSE
on-screen keyboard 8)
The irony lmao
That way they cant track your typing type. How you type how hard you press it.
@@atiagooqkinguliaalu4027 What are you even talking about? Since when did keyboards output how hard a key is pressed?
@@theblinkstykrab3106 some keyboard even keep information about the end use rgb pattern
Was seriously about to buy this CoolerMaster model. It was between this and the Keychron K3.
Thanks for saving me some headaches with the Coolermaster. Going with the K3 instead now.
I mean, wouldn't anyone avoid purchasing a keyboard with the only labels as B, A and D?
I would
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@@Nathansomething bad bad ba d dba bad
@@Nathansomething at least your spam isn’t as obnoxious lol.
That typing montage was so amazing and satisfying, can someone please make a 10 hour version
im gheiii
The new office plague: clickity clackity mechanical keyboards just grind your ear drums all day long
MKASMR
This link is for u listenonrepeat.com/?v=S5-12O3kiho&s=273&e=289#Avoid_These_Keyboards!
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I have been using a cooler master cmstorm quick fire rapid with cherry mx brown for 5 or so years and i love it. I have other mechanical keyboards, but this is the one i keep comming back too.
Thanks for the information and time to put this video togther. Respect and apperication. Videos are time, work , and praise is deserved
the small spacing between the keycaps is the main reason i will try this keyoboard
No you're not supposed to do that
🤦♂️
Lol
That’s not good
no no don't do that please for the love of god don't you will have a lot of typos and you're just gonna press random keys
Trust me i have experience and am writing on a keyboard like this and have already made 7 typos so just don't
4:35 Dave flexing on us🤯
Got the larger one for my mother's office setup for $75 buck off amazon. Its used in a professional environment, minimalist. Took about half a week for her to flow but she loves it. Its advantages are its aesthetics and that it feels like a superior laptop keyboard, something that appeals to some people, but not others. If you have a minimalist docking setup, this is nice.
The separated USB connector is actually a very good design choice because keyboards with detachable cables are notorious for having loose USB ports after a while of use, so the separated chip is easier and cheaper to replace.
Keychron has no plans to make layouts for non-US so that's out the window for me.
New drinking game... every time he says "Low Profile" take a shot.
Prepare enough alcohol to take 19 shots then.
More like etey time he says the letter O
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“I got these about 2 weeks ago, and I’ve been using them since then.” - That shoutout to MKBHD is on point!
It's funny how you actually have a half decent comment with 0 likes, here ill give you your first one.
4:33 is where you can hear how the keys sound -- thank you for this -- i wanted to hear what they sounded like before committing to a new keyboard -- currently using a Logi K750
By those sounds i like low profile cherry red both coolermasters
I wish you said more about the issues with the Keychron K1, mainly that the keys fire before the click. The Hexgears X-1 also seem to have a similar issue. For a lot of people, this is a dealbreaker, as the click is supposed to serve as an indication for the actuation point. Unfortunately though, as far as I know, there isn't currently a good chiclet TKL keyboard with back lighting (mechanical or not).
In the market for a new keyboard and finally I come across a host that not only understands what it is he's talking about but delivers it soundly as well. Nicely done, and agree with your review.
the intro music is sick dude! so chill.
back then when we still don't have smartphone, we gotta be careful when disassembling keyboard buttons... if we forgot the correct arrangement, we're kinda screwed until we see another keyboard haha.
best tech youtuber/person in my opinion
Thumbs if you liked it, subs if you loved it.
If you haven't already, check out MKBHD. The format of his videos are really similar to that of Dave and I think you'll like him a lot.
@@wilfriedsteinbach8700 his openings tho
if you're into a gaming review channel, check out Unwrap, they are pretty good at video games and i really like their reviews. they might do a review on a gaming mouse or keyboard and sometimes theyll compare big streamer's mice headphones, keyboards, bungees, ect.
That is one cool Thumbnail. You did a great job taking so much time to get that prefect thumbnail
Okay so I want to defend this keyboard. At least to the extent that I can.
I have had this (SK630) keyboard for a week now and have thoroughly enjoyed it but D2D did make some valid points.
1. It isn't THAT low profile but it is a lot better than what I am coming from and is still great for me
2. Key caps are pretty close together but its better than my laptop so I am already used to it
3. Key caps have no dish but it a low profile keyboard and I don't think it would look right if it did
Other things Eber from HardwareCunucks said:
1. No mute key but can be programmed in with software
2. No brightness control but can be changed in the software by adding more black to the color
3. No height adjust feet but I don't use anyways
Responding to RandomFrankP - I wanted the Hexgears X1 sooo bad but a lot of the customer reviews complained about manufacturing issues and it is currently unavailable in most configs
Pros of this keyboard:
1. Software - total key remapping and macros that allow mouse clicks too
2. shorter than most standard keyboards
3. I trust cherry and cooler master alot more than the smaller companies and Choc switches
4. light but does not move on desk and does not flex at all
All in all I love the keyboard and I don't mind some of the short comings or quirks that it has. Its not for everyone but I love it!
Thanks for your thoughts! We're glad you're enjoying your experience with the SK630!
@@CoolerMasterGaming I was not expecting a direct response from CM! Thanks for making a keyboard that I love to use everyday
Replying to your first statement. The keyboard is indeed lower profile than most gaming keyboards you would find, but if you can ditch the lighting there are keyboards with normal Cherry MX switches that are only 3mm higher. The Cherry MX Board 3.0 for instance is only a tad higher, the price is a lot lower and it doesn't have the problem with spacing that was mentioned. MX Board 1.0 is the same height, it even includes lighting and still has regular sized Cherry MX. It just doesn't feel right when keyboards that aren't marketed as low-profile are 1/10 higher or not at all than a keyboard that is designed to be low profile
never had a prob on laptop keyboards. lenovo even releases a separate thinkpad keyboard with dished and contoured keycaps. just something to get used to, not a defect.
Is the Keychron K1 really $75 for an RGB, Bluetooth, mechanical keyboard?! And one that looks so good AND charges over USB-C?!?! It looks way too good to be true for such a low cost.
AbuBakr Akram LED is $74 but RGB is $84
For the money of the rgb version you could also get an anne pro 2. Not low profile, but it has the features you listed and im really loving it right now
シュラ motospeed ck61 is rgb Bluetooth mechanical and its $40
This was a great video. Concise, focused, and articulate. Good stuff man!
How many times did dave says “low profile”?
what the fk is a low profile keyboard?
@@busimo a low height keyboard
18 times.
Not counting the time he said "lower profile"
Also not counting the 3 times he typed it out.
@@lonelycandle9554 you have a lot of time on ur hands.. lol 😂😂
@@Kittyxoxo Haha. Yea
5:49 idk using this keyboard pretty long and I love it!
Just picked up a Roccat Vulcan - Low Profile Keyboard - for just $75 at a second hand shop (was still new).
Really pleased with it so far. Kind of loud, but other than that.
@2:48 I was expecting him to say “but it’s not thunderbolt 3 so you can’t connect an external gpu”
Nice thumbnail though
I don't know exactly how they marketed it, but I interpret "low profile" to be the switch height (ie. it has low profile switches). Not specifically the keyboard thickness itself. I'm way more interested in the key travel, if it's high I'll just use a wrist support.
I don't know why people keep complaining about spacing! I actually can't type on the typical mechanical keyboards because the keys are too far apart and I always hit the side of the keys
For me, if the keys are too close, I struggle to type as I keep hitting adjacent keys to the ones I target. For example, I have two keyboards - a Dell KB216 full size Chiclet membrane keyboard and a Logitech K230 compact wireless keyboard. The former has large spacing and is much, more easy to use and accurate than the latter in which the keys are way too close to each other. I will be receiving my first ever mechanical keyboard - Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L white LED, Cherry blue - today and will see how it goes.
PS: I think people complain about spacing for the same reason that you do. You need short spacing while others need full spacing.
Dave Rigs Every Thing...!
I was not expecting the depth of the review!
Learnt a bunch of new stuff on mechanical keyboards
got it, despite all of the reviews saying "it's shit"
best keyboard i ever got. I was worried about the keys as well, but once you get used to it, your hand flies very fast over the caps! great keyboard
DynaCentral you even watched the video??
@@noahk yap i did. it's bullshit. have the keyboard now. best thing ive ever gotten
what keyboards have you used lmao.
@@marcusborderlands6177 many ! many many keyboards. once you get used to this thing, its the best ever! VERY nice to type on, and the media keys are fantastically placed when you use your thumb on the fn symbol, you can change media easily even when gaming. it's awesome!
@@skyguy1988 huh. I couldn't stand mine personally. It felt like shit compared to some really cheap redragons I had sitting around.
In the end, it's all about personal preference
This is not a review.. he is just shitting on it because he doesnt prefer the style..
@@curlytopkid6952 a review should have no bias imo. Just facts and move on
Your videos are beautiful, informational, and are not stretched timewise. I love them
I will say after having the CoolerMaster SK650 for a year, it was definitely a challenge not hitting almost every key at once when first using it, but after a while it stopped becoming a problem, but during then; how it looked and felt still outweighed how difficult it was to type on at first.
did you have any problems with keys double typing?? I've had two of these keyboards now and I love them, but they all double type
@zuckdaddy1596 I don't believe I did, I haven't used that keyboard in a while, but I have a friend still using them without issues, you might have just been unlucky.
@@LunarcomplexMain goodness man, I appreciate the quick reply on a 3y old comment lol. happy thanksgiving!
@zuckdaddy1596 np lmao thanks you too!
Me watching this with no interest in getting a new keyboard: "hmmmm, interesting..."
Same lol
Was ready to pull the trigger on one of these puppies. Great depth on this man. You changed my mind.
Been using this kb for a while now and i think it's great, and i've used a lot.
Damn Dave, first time seeing one of your videos and wow you actually reviewed and compared them in a meaningful extensive way! Taking them apart, comparing them to multiple other keyboards and demonstrating the quirks on these seemingly 'universal' features. Amazing!
Best of all you even recorded the sound of typing on them in quick succession, you can tell so much about a keyboard by how it sounds, it's a major aspect.
I hit the keys hard but shallow, and so big, heavy, clicky mechanical switches don't suit me because it sounds like I'm drumming and occasionally the keys won't register because I don't depress them far enough, so I use low profile, short & flat keyboards that are quiet. Was seriously interested in the concept of a low profile mechanical keyboard but your review has saved me like what $150? Thanks man. Genuinely. Thank you. Subbed.
Own them for nearly a year before some keys started registering double presses even though I've only pressed them once. They're very hard to type with speed and accuracy in because of the spacing. You will end up having lots of typos while using these
You're one of the best tech reviewers ❤❤❤
I could see four "first" comments out there. Nobody should say first if you don't have a 10 gigabit ethernet.
First second
Just purchased a k1 and was so pleased to see it used as an example of a good keyboard.
Hi Dave. Great vid as usual. :)
They need to create a keycap set for these but with a strong angled bezel to make the top of the cap take less space which in turn will spread them apart. They should also make the whole set to have a concave curvature (albeit shallower) along the vertical axis as in a normal mech keyboard. With those in place they would have a nice KB. The sound of the keys is quite perfect already.
Optionally, since the keycap's bezel are angled they could leave the last 2mm at the bottom of each cap white, allowing the caps to have a nice RGB lit border.
CoolerMaster should just team up with Corsair and both use iCUE (make iCUE a framework for all these companies) instead of competing for RGB implementations. Having multiple RGB apps is a big NO NO!
Wireless makes no sense, who would bring a laptop along with a KB anyway? Only pro gamers I guess, and they prefer to go wired anyway. So I would save the cost of a wireless device and use the extra resources to create a better keyboard.
I own logi’s new tkl, loving it yet a rippoff price. Best keyboard ive used to date is my Sony VAIO laptop.
Yes, I still dont understand how keyboard manufacturers didnt yet realice all we need is just the EXACT same keyboard of a laptop, on the desk.
@@korolario laptops dont have mechanical keyboards 99% of the time they membranes so you wouldn't want the same one only if you like membranes
4:32 For some reason the audio of people typing furiously on a keyboard makes me uncomfortable
Legend has it that to this day, Dave's screwdriver is still rolling.
(1:58)
You can see it stopped rolling🤦♂️
@@mae896 some one missed the joke
He screwed that keyboard so hard
It actually separated
ah man, I reeeally need to thank you. I saw this video a cople times in recomended, but now I am (was) looking for a TKL especially low profile keyboard. I was close to buying this SK650, but it was kind of expensive so I searched some more but I didn't see any. Than I saw your video, I didn't knew it was about low profile keyboards before so I watched it and the second I saw this
alternative I got on amazon and saw $79 price tag. And I immediately knew I was going to buy this instead. So thank you again, bc you just saved me like $40 and a pretty not low profile keyboard.
I like these blue switches more so win-win-win
I come from a lapop and from a logitech k360, and this keyboard looks terrific to me in comparison with a classic mechanical keyboard. It depends what you are used too.
CoolerMaster: 3 million people are coming be ready.
DaveLee Enters with a red flag...
CoolerMaster: And here they go.
That was very informative and helpful! Thank you for sharing this with us, Dave!
7 minutes into this I was like "why am I watching this?"
Trueee
I actually like how they have the USB C PCB seperate from the main PCB, it makes it easier to replace the port down the line (and my family usually needs to retire keyboards because of damages connectors that we don't have time to fix, which meana we often end up purchasing a ton of cheap keyboards).
I didn't want to buy a laptop keyboard but I watched the video. Well-explained and attention to details. Nice!
Welcome to *keyboard melody class* hosted by Dave2d @4:32
Hi Dave, can you recommend any low profile 75% or 60% keyboards?
The Keychron K1 looks great but is far too big at 87 keys. The SK621 as you point out is not low profile. Same with the Royal Kludge RK61/Skyloong K61/Anne Pro 2/Ducky One2/Vortexgear Pok3r.
The Hexgears X-1 is close but too big, same with Tesoro and Havit KB390L.
The few serious options I can see are the Logitech K380, Bazalia 8839, Magic_Refiner MK10 and Apple Magic Keyboard but they all have their flaws...
turkeyphant gk84 plz
@@dkimmortal Not remotely low profile.
I'd also consider a compact board with ten key and bluetooth as long as it's low-profile. Unfortunately there are only really two realistic candidates, the Hexgears X-1 and Drevo Joyeuse version 1. Unfortunately both are almost impossible to find and the X-1 has many flaws including very flaky bluetooth and faulty switches while the Drevo is even rarer in the bluetooth form, is a bit bulky and has that hideous gap. My endgame would probably be a bluetooth Vortex Tab 90M but without the bezel and with low profike keys instead of the massive ones it sports. A Red Scarf III or Vortex Race 3 colour scheme for keycaps would be great too.
i bought the newer model 650 which they now send you complimentary regular shaped keys for a full on mechanical keyboard feel. Ive been practicing typing on it for 3 days now and im up to 90 wpm with a 96-98% accuracy rate. i am by no means an expert typist. But for my first mechanical keyboard experience and my first RGB keyboard this was worth every penny. i do see what hes talking about when he mentions your fingers brushing against near by keys. and yes that took some getting used to but it by no means has lessened my accuracy. i honestly think his video is focused towards keyboard veterans and hobbyists because from my experience with it. its definitely worth the value.
"probably should have done this in advance"
literally part of an edited youtube video :)
why does this have 86 likes...
@@yowogurt227 it still has 86 likes lol
Suushi it should stay that way ☺️
He meant before shooting the video
@@yowogurt227 yes, yes it should
Dave i can hear a kind of noise in the background, may the problem with the mic!
I would say now, I use a logitech g915, and i would say they are a really good low profile keyboard with nice keycaps that are not so super spaced out, and if your also transitioning from a gaming laptop to a desktop, its definitely something to keep in mind to help you transition to future gaming keyboards if your not so used to the keycaps on mechanical keyboards.
I just bought the Logitech G815 today, it was super hard to justify spending so much on a keyboard, but honestly this is the best keyboard I have ever typed on and purchased. It is a huge jump from the Logitech G413 I had prior. Even the guy at the checkout register was like "Dude, good choice for a keyboard, one of the best" so that made me feel a little better about the purchase. I have the "clicky" type and it sounds good and looks so aesthetically pleasing
The best meaning of "Don't judge a book by its cover"
They sent out free replacement keycaps with deeper dishes and more space between each key so I'm actually a fan now
Wow this guy REALLY cares about every single detail. In a very good way
Hey Dave, can you check out the keychron k1 keyboards? Would love to hear your thoughts on them!
When your mum gives you a office keyboard
Me to gamers: I got a new keyboard
SnoopyWoop ? 69 likes
Is that zero two?🤤
@@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure yes
Akina Hachi Roku simp
If it’s zero two I’m on board
Using K1 for the last two years with a lot of pleasure!!! No issues here.
Drinking game:
Take a shot every time Dave says "low profile" in this video
So original haha so funny😑
I still don't know why youtube is recommending me keyboard stuff I'm literally on mobile.
you keep watching them lol
same here though :D
Oh this was about typing, I was here for gaming
gaming
4:45 Drevo don’t use Cherry form my knowledge but if they do I’m pleased cause I got one lol
In their BladeMaster yes, in other ones they use imitations switches that work well imo. If you're looking to replace the keycaps on your Drevo keyboard it's compatible with MX keycaps