Kawasaki H2 vs. ZX10R vs. ZX14

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  • @mindspinn311
    @mindspinn311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I think a ZX-14R is something every motorcyclist should experience. There’s nothing quite like a large displacement inline four in a comfy chassis that will cruise at 120mph all day effortlessly with tons to spare.

    • @bike5200
      @bike5200 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      exact reason i bought mine. im a bigger guy and fit on it. totally awesome power

    • @Aladinscave
      @Aladinscave 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have 3 ZZRs 2x 1100s and the 1200 the ZX14R is my next bike 🏁😁

  • @foesfly3047
    @foesfly3047 5 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    If I may share some personal experience...
    I have these 3 bikes-- well, sort of.
    2015 ZX14R with Brocks full exhaust and ECU tune.
    2016 H2 with Brocks full Stage II @ 284hp.
    2018 ZX10RR Brocks exhaust & ECU tune.
    Of these, the ZX14R is the best performance value while also the most 'practical' (longer fuel range, passenger seat, comfortable for longer rides, lowest purchase price and insurance rates, lowest typical maintenance). I enjoy the power delivery of this bike much more than the ZX10RR and in some ways, also better than the H2-Brocks. It's fairly easy to control rear tire slip while drifting turns due to its more linear torque delivery and its heavier weight and more compliant suspension provide great high speed stability. The 4 best things about the ZX10RR: 1. Mr Rea has performed so admirably for four years on his. 2. It's the best looking Kawasaki. 3. The handling/agility are freaking awesome. 4. Its clutchless shifting is virtually flawless. I've never ridden a stock H2 but my first reaction to riding my heavily Brocks-enhanced H2 home after purchase was, "This kind of power should not be allowed on public roads!" The advertised numbers on the H2 don't come close to describing what it feels like to ride. If the ZX10RR is what 200hp 'feels' like, then the H2 'feels' more like 500hp to me. The acceleration available in 1st and second gear is far more than any tire can manage. Controlling all that power with microscopic wrist control is far more critical than you can imagine until you've ridden one. One degree of wrist twist takes a rider from engine braked coasting to a wheelie under most conditions. Making slow speed turns at inner city intersections in first gear must be done with VERY deliberate and conservative application of throttle-- and don't sneeze or hit a pot-hole! Freeway speeds in higher gears are much more manageable while still having loads of extra power on tap, of course. All these bikes make it hard to stay out of jail but especially the H2. I apologize for the long post. I hope someone enjoys it. And don't envy. At age 56, I should probably grow up : )

    • @jasonfryer7002
      @jasonfryer7002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      You're not old....until you FEEL OLD.....you keep going brother!!
      I'm 50...have never ridden a motorcycle, and ive been drooling for an H2 for a year now!!...I know it will likely never happen, and getting on the back of a dragon is likely the last....first experience I should ever have.....but it's nice to dream...it keeps us young....so stay young!!

    • @foesfly3047
      @foesfly3047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jasonfryer7002 I appreciate your comment, brother. I hope an H2 of your choosing, finds its way to your stable soon!

    • @blueskystailwind544
      @blueskystailwind544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Hey mate I'm 60 and ride my zx14r like I stole it my arms and shoulders are starting to let me down but I don't care just want to keep pulling that trigger these things are a beast.

    • @bradturner9147
      @bradturner9147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      FoesFlyDennis NO Never grow up!! I’m 55 n still ride n race my 2011 busa!!

    • @john3532947
      @john3532947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm 53...and I ride my GSX-R1000 like I have a death wish. There is nothing in this world that is more thrilling than having a liter bike (or better...something bigger like a ZX-14) and feeling that amount of power under you. At some point in my life, I would love to ride a ZX14...just to feel that torque!

  • @stevewarner5540
    @stevewarner5540 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Something that I think gets overlooked on the ZX-14/14R is that they make excellent sport touring bikes. I put some soft bags on mine and spend many a long weekend in the mountains riding those spectacular roads. Rode till dark and then threw down a sleeping bag on some National Forest land and spent the night. Bike riding can't get any better than this for me.

  • @turbotj99
    @turbotj99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I couldn’t talk myself into an H2. I picked up my 2015 ZX14R in the first half of 2016 brand new for under $11k with a 5 year unlimited mile warranty. That’s one third the cost of an H2 and I get more comfort for some of my 200 mile/day excursions into the Rocky Mountains. I’m now at 25k miles and it’s ran flawless the entire time. Couldn’t ask for a more perfect bike.

  • @SaintEve1105
    @SaintEve1105 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This review still holds up in 2022 pretty much. I ride a ZX14R and it really is surprising how great it handles. Such a sweet bike to ride! More people need to give them a try so these bikes don't die out.
    Each one of these bikes is amazing and deserves a place in production. 💚

    • @hatorihanso1238
      @hatorihanso1238 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I have a ZZR14 to, love it, sad now cause it’s winter in Norway, snow,so it’s parked in my garage, can’t wait for spring and summer , To go out on rides.
      Mercy Christmas to you, ride safe. 🇳🇴🙏👍

    • @MelodicTurtleMetal
      @MelodicTurtleMetal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everyone who rides my 14 are always surprised when it comes to the corners. For it's weight it's amazingly balanced and feels lighter than many going around a corner.
      Still a fat bike. I keep thinking about turbo charging it, but i rarely turn the throttle more than 20% anyway

  • @geraldselvey7687
    @geraldselvey7687 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No other manufacturer would build 3 legendary machines and market them against each other. Well done Kawasaki. Take note everyone else

  • @typhoonsd9720
    @typhoonsd9720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    NASA told us they can see the H2 muffler from space.

    • @bryanlettow4389
      @bryanlettow4389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      First and probably the only thing I'd want to change out immediately.

    • @esetek
      @esetek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Typhoon SD nasa lies

    • @brianmaclennan561
      @brianmaclennan561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its the same muffler on the space shuttle...

  • @m.rsteengrei3569
    @m.rsteengrei3569 8 ปีที่แล้ว +446

    No matter which one you choose, as long as you are on a green machine you have chosen wisely and nicely , , , my pals.

    • @gunton21
      @gunton21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      quite right, I have a green triumph.

    • @Kostas283
      @Kostas283 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      please be joking

    • @ricktaylor3748
      @ricktaylor3748 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The H -2R Has 326 HP. I wouldn't call that a joke. Kawasaki..Let The Good Times Roll !!!

    • @m.rsteengrei3569
      @m.rsteengrei3569 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      :) nice. you are half way there. All you need now is a ninja sticker on the tank

    • @mosesotb6866
      @mosesotb6866 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not street legal though ugh. I hate that. Gonna pick up a 06 2x14. 2.5 0-6 9.8 on the drag. Name a street bike beating that for under 6000 used!!

  • @compassionandempathy7537
    @compassionandempathy7537 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    ZX10R (My bike) an absolute beast, a lot of fun in all aspects of riding and excels with its' characteristics.
    H2 and (H2R) a testament to technology and build quality that Kawasaki have brought out.
    ZX14, Stunning, Powerful and stable cruising bike.
    Each bike offers a different ride experience, each to their own.
    Great review, great bikes.

  • @richardh926
    @richardh926 6 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    I can ride my ZX14 all day long, litre bikes after a few hours my back is killing me. 14 is the most comfortable bike!

    • @alantorchia6674
      @alantorchia6674 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      RatBastad Man I'm debating between a zx10 and zx14. I want comfort. Are they similar?

    • @Sleepless4Life
      @Sleepless4Life 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fat bastard detected!

    • @tomserbaducci8559
      @tomserbaducci8559 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Zx14r is very comfy..... Sold mine and bought a 10r because I never get out on long rides and I live in the twisty mountains. The 14 is an excellent bike as well though

    • @PeterDad60
      @PeterDad60 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ride more and your back shall get stronger, I know this from experience.

    • @hughjaanus6680
      @hughjaanus6680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@PeterDad60 Bikes also.

  • @chriswade3986
    @chriswade3986 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I literally have all 3 of these bikes , 2021’s and they are all fast and very different at the same time. All of my bikes have bolt ons and tuned . The H2 is something special. I have also have a 2018 H2 sx se that I added some supercharger gears to and an intercooler. It makes more power then any of my bikes . It’s the H2 with a much more comfortable riding position. Awesome video

  • @AccessDenied66
    @AccessDenied66 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Why does everybody always say "It was made for one thing only: Speed in a straight line"? The ZX-14 may not be as good at cornering as a ZX-10 and it's not expected to but it does corner well for it's size and weight. After all it is a Ninja. Don't you guys that own one agree?

    • @BenButler50
      @BenButler50 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AccessDenied66 not compared to a zx6

  • @garolstipock
    @garolstipock 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ZZR-14 (ZX-14R in the states) was the most "perfect" real-world motorcycle I ever owned. Pitty I binned it back in 2009, been meaning to replace it. Stone reliable, comfortable (I've come to greatly appreciate and desire comfort now that I'm over 35), and handled fantastically for everything the street could throw at me (I'm sure it would show it's shortcomings on a track, but it's not a track bike. Did I say "stone reliable"? Great riding slow or fast. It "Just fit" my tall frame. I tend to have a first love for naked bikes, but this is one that I could not deny was "perfection" owning. Yet, I still gripe that the Japanese 'overstyle' their bikes just a bit too much, but beside that it just ran and ran and ran all day, every day. . . until "the accident". Mine was a 2007 and let me just say, if I had anti-locks I might still have it. . . maybe

  • @SeerTrulth
    @SeerTrulth 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Put a 190/55 on the back of a ZX-14R, increase the damping on the forks and shock, and all the things these fine gents noted in this video even get better. The taller, rounder rear tire makes turn-in sickly smooth and seamless, and the damping firm-up gets it right into more of a hard racing feel. I also have my ECU flashed, and it runs like a got damned Formula 1 car. Michelin Pilot Power 3 tires. 36 psi. Took all the extra weight off I could. Dyno (SAE) 211 HP and 118 lb/ft torque. Spits and rumbles like it's burning nitroglycerin.

    • @geraldperry7779
      @geraldperry7779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Got 2008 had it turbocharged love pulling away on highway from my friend H2.

    • @Asskicker41582
      @Asskicker41582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I concur with the statement. Pretty much did the same with my 2016. Two brother exhaust. Beast in the canyons, beast on the highway. Running Road 5s for 2020.

  • @tigermannen51
    @tigermannen51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like Kawasaki ZX14 most of all because I like to drive long way on the road. I think ZX14 is more comfortable of all this 3

  • @thepassionofthegoose5472
    @thepassionofthegoose5472 8 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I'm seeing used ZX14's in California for around 6,000USD (07 model with 11,000 miles). That's an unbelievable bargain by any definition, especially if you're on the taller side and are looking for a "do everything" superbike to ride everyday.
    I'd love an H2 (who wouldn't) and I'm sure a 10 would be bliss on a track, but for the money and usability the 14 is unmatched.

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      it definitely is a slower handling bike than most bikes...but in real world use that is not a problem. And in my opinion despite the numbers here the brakes suck. just weak and not up to the rest of the bike.

    • @Gr8Layks
      @Gr8Layks 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Tyler D. Dude, you have issues. See a doctor.

    • @tudortime73onig90
      @tudortime73onig90 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Anthony Smith The 14 is a lovely bike, but it'll eat chains and rear tires like they're going outta fashion. I'd still love one though.

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anthony Smith cause the bike weighs more and has more power than just about any other sportbike sold today?
      how's that for two possible reasons?

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anthony Smith ride the bike and the tires are going to wear out? HM

  • @daironification
    @daironification 8 ปีที่แล้ว +462

    Does anyone else hate the stock exhaust designs on Kawasaki's?

    • @easetres8664
      @easetres8664 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They're horrible

    • @corylepire342
      @corylepire342 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      They're designed, and welded very poorly, so bad that you are forced to buy an aftermarket exhaust... as they intend for you to do.

    • @LannnR
      @LannnR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've 2014 zx14r and yes I kinda hate it

    • @boss302gorie8
      @boss302gorie8 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ive got a new ZX 10,riding round town i think "why did i buy this thing?" hooking through the curvy bits i think "fuck i love this bike!"

    • @LoadedPotatoInc
      @LoadedPotatoInc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got a 2001 zx6e with dual exhaust and I actually like the design

  • @swiggs324
    @swiggs324 8 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    wtf, how did his hair stay like that when he took off the helmet

    • @swiggs324
      @swiggs324 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ***** i need some of those

    • @frankeckert4901
      @frankeckert4901 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Swiggs Plug wire to the scrotum...

    • @johnburnett1319
      @johnburnett1319 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      just shave your head. lol.

    • @rabsputin
      @rabsputin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      sheer insanity.

    • @chriswood2205
      @chriswood2205 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hahaha!

  • @catcall569
    @catcall569 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Man as soon as I get my ZX14, I'm getting a BritISH accent so I can make cool voice over videos.

    • @hughjaanus6680
      @hughjaanus6680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're South African.....

    • @TheMatttomlinson
      @TheMatttomlinson 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hughjaanus6680 2 of them are British

    • @hughjaanus6680
      @hughjaanus6680 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck with that, Scottish, Welsh, English, (N.Ireland)

    • @catcall569
      @catcall569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I got my ZX14... WooHooo

    • @lupreztryson
      @lupreztryson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hugh Jaanus what? They’re white af and they speak with a british accent. How tf are these geezers african

  • @AmericanMadeAdventures
    @AmericanMadeAdventures 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching in 2018 - enjoyed it and got great info. Thanks for making it. Thumb up.

  • @Land-Shark
    @Land-Shark 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm 9 days away from getting my (0-miles) 2016 ZX-14R... stoked! :)

  • @motoyingtv2298
    @motoyingtv2298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All i can say is..
    "dont mess with the ninja's".

  • @usafvet6766
    @usafvet6766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll Take The ZX14R, OVER any other bike there is. ANY DAY. ! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸

  • @Mr.Robert1
    @Mr.Robert1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never owned a Kawasaki in my life. My friends all went out and got brand new Harleys. I never liked Harley's I thought they were overpriced and I heard nothing but bad things about them. I don't know why not for any particular reason when I was young around 14 years old I purchased a Yamaha 80. That's pretty much what I learned on. Then when I was ready I purchased a used Honda 400 Hawk. It had too cylinders too carburetors and too exhaust pipes. I paid $500 used. I had it checked out by the local Honda shop they made some minor adjustments and I was good to go. About 3 years later I sold it for what I paid for it and I purchased a brand new Honda 750 this was a straight 4 cylinder with 4 carburetors going into too exhausts. Paid $2500 Brand new. It was actually still in the box when I purchased it they needed to assemble the bike. In 1987 I purchased my first new car, before that I had used turned out that I was so happy with the reliability of Honda that I went straight to the Honda dealer and purchased a new 1987 Honda Civic. I recall this car cost me a total of $10,000 out the door including tax, title, tags, destination fee and options that I picked out. I drove it for 300,000 miles with no trouble at all. I had basic maintenance done at the dealer the only reason I traded it in because I was tired of looking at it. To this day I'm still driving Honda, once I find something that's good I stick with it. Kawasaki never entered my mind ever.

  • @dbauernf
    @dbauernf 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    ZZR for me.

  • @avimistry8820
    @avimistry8820 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another awesome and entertaining review. Could you perhaps do a 600-800 sportbike comparison? I know there are a few shootouts online, but I'd be very interested to see how you guys rate these bikes against each other. Cheers

  • @Cullinane2010
    @Cullinane2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Uh. Zx14r thank you. I'll take the performance with the comfort.

  • @johnharris7353
    @johnharris7353 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Luv the big Z...it's big fast and useful- one can tour and take a passenger??!! I'll gladly give up a bit of cornering speed for a useful all-arounder

  • @erictaylor2628
    @erictaylor2628 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    You can't make the H2's engine any larger but you can supercharge the ZX-14r. If that thing was supercharged it would eat the H2 alive and still cost less.

    • @miormuhammad2721
      @miormuhammad2721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Daryl Lonigan supercharge*

    • @The_Bushman
      @The_Bushman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nitrous

    • @sambert96
      @sambert96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about do you?

    • @BigUriel
      @BigUriel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It would probably be easier to stroke the H2 than supercharge the ZX though. People talk about super/turbo charging bikes as if it's the most straight forward thing ever but it involves a lot of cutting and welding and you end up with bits and bobs sticking out of the bike awkwardly because everything's so tightly packed around a bike's engine that there is no room for add ons like that. Plus with a high strung naturally aspirated engine there is always the very real possibility that your engine will then just blow up when you slam that throttle open, remember the ZX has a compression ratio of 12 while the H2's is only 8-ish because it's designed for boost to begin with.
      Plus you can very easily and for very little money just increase the boost/airflow on the H2, a different air box/filter, different pulley and a remap is all it takes. Remember the R spec makes over 300hp.

    • @erictaylor2628
      @erictaylor2628 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jesse Mitchell I agree. Even the Ninja 1000's have a 0-60 equivalent to an H2, it's the 1/4 mile drag is where it really shines. Even though super sport bikes in general are long past crazy performance many years ago companies continue to push the envelope. I wouldn't be surprised if Kawasaki pulled off supercharging the ZX-14r at some point but not till after the 650's.

  • @pauldark3044
    @pauldark3044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Own both a zzr1400ps and H2, zzr is the best of this bunch but the H2 is an experiance like no other

  • @saltandoalvacio5736
    @saltandoalvacio5736 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting comparative guys!

  • @k1ortia
    @k1ortia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never knew the zzr was so good.. Thats sold me

  • @manmeetshergill1714
    @manmeetshergill1714 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video and a great idea to put these motorcycles together .

  • @crispincurtis8251
    @crispincurtis8251 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You lads have a great show🤙

  • @Rusty_trombone62
    @Rusty_trombone62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been riding legally since 1991. My first real bike was a 1987 Honda hurricane 1000R and I usually upgraded bikes every 2 years. (Little backround about me 😁). I’m pretty vested in motorcycles. I even went to Wyotech Daytona for Asian and HD motorcycle mechanics after I retired from FDNY. And there are 2 bikes that I bought that are literally the best machines I’ve ever owned. I am stuck with them and will absolutely never part with them no matter what bike comes out.
    2014 BMW S1000RR (I bought a new one in 2010 and when the 2nd gen cane out in 2012 I wanted another one. In 2014 I broke down and bought a new 2014 at an excellent price. I gave the 2010 s1000rr to my son).
    And!!!!
    OMG in 47 years on this planet I’ve never ridden a bike like the 2016 Kawasaki Ninja H2 (just a regular H2 not the H2R. I wanted the street legal one). I ordered my H2 and when I got it I was blown away by the acceleration powerband on this monster. Went I first got it I had to take it easy during the break in. But right after my 600 mile oil change. This bike literally feels like an airplane going down the runway as it’s taking off. I love this bike. It’s not the most comfortable machine on the road but it handles great. It handles almost as smoothly as my S1000RR but it’s like having the S1000RR on nitrous and still some life left in it. I even owned a turbo busa back in 2001 and the turbo was only set at wastegate psi so it would run out of breath very quickly. And I had a zx14 right before I bought my bmw s1000rr and that literally was like riding a very fast station wagon lol.
    When it comes down to it. For a nice ride on the highway. I will pull out my S1000RR and for a local bike show or meet I would jump on my H2. But wait!!!
    Back in December 2018 I bought a 18 Ninja H2 SX/SE without the side bags. And it’s not very quick compared to the regular H2 but it’s by far the most comfortable bike I’ve ridden in a while. Picture the stability on leans and dipping of a liter bike but the comfort and speed or a hydro liter bike. So I basically wanted to drop my input for anyone looking into a Ninja. I can say hands down that the regular H2 is the perfect bike and the best all around bike I’ve ever owned. And the BMW S1000RR is my 2nd best. The S1000RR I will say gives you the most bang for your buck and it probably the safest bike I’ve ever ridden. The H2 SX/SE has a lot of safety features I’m still learning how to use half of the features and the gauge cluster is like a computer. But I personally feel the safest and most in control while I’m on my S1000RR.
    But the 2018 H2 SX/SE will be sold if something else comes out that catches my interest. But the point I’m trying to make is that there are only 2 motorcycles in 28 years and at least 20 different bikes that ever impressed me enough to actually hang on to them and I love these 2 bikes so much that I’ll probably never part with them.
    Ok so here is my stand on if someone isn’t financially capable at this time to purchase a regular Ninja H2. I would have to say to pick the BMW S1000RR any year between 2010-2018 (I don’t know anything about the 2019 other then they ruined the appearance of it by changing the headlights so I have no desire to upgrade my s1000rr so I don’t know anything about the 2019 models). But my number 2 would be to go for the Ninja H2 SX or H2 SX/SE it’s right around that 20-22k price tag and I lot of people seem to like them as well so I’m sure there will be a lot of aftermarket parts out there for it. I love the gauge cluster on the H2 SX/SE the color screen is really cool. And it looks more like a sport bike then a sport tour bike. But it’s very comfortable and very very easy to ride. I put a lot of miles on this bike in the past 2 months. A lot of long distance rides. And I loved every mile. Like riding a smooth Cadillac lol.
    Anyway that you for taking the time to read my comment and please be careful especially if you ride an H2 or S1000RR as they can get up there in mph very quickly. Please ride safe.

  • @abobobilly
    @abobobilly 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    OH MY ... The one and only channel i have come across actually having the balls to do a BRAKE TEST on a motorcycle. I deeply enjoyed it. The horror of pressing the brake lever HARD on a speed excess of 60kmph ... is evident with ZX10 lol. And H2 dipped so hard.

  • @micko1404
    @micko1404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love anything from the team green stable, but the ZX14 is an all rounder personally, it would make a good daily and a weekend fun machine. But the H2 has killer looks and killer performance stats.

  • @sbsb4995
    @sbsb4995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another excellent episode

  • @FastRu-kl7iy
    @FastRu-kl7iy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harry, how tall are you? Wondering how do you find H2 pegs position? I am 183sm tall and knee to tank issue drives me mad.

  • @richsmout550
    @richsmout550 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great test nice to see would love to see the original zx12r in the mix also. Cheers

    • @countryacademy9053
      @countryacademy9053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've owned a lot of liter bikes over the years and the zx12 fit me like a glove.

  • @menom7
    @menom7 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question,WHY does the ZX14 have aftermarket pipes on it (Two-Brothers Ex.) and the other two,have "Stock" exhausts? I would think that would matter QUITE A BIT when it came to horsepower and acceleration among the other two,would it NOT?

  • @drmurda
    @drmurda 8 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    Keep in mind, the H2 has an elephant on it during the tests.

    • @briantetley9
      @briantetley9 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Vman LOLOLOL

    • @catcall569
      @catcall569 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Aww dude lol, that was sooo wrong. Incredibly funny but soooo wrong lol.

    • @nyomnyomsolk5396
      @nyomnyomsolk5396 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Savage, lol

    • @rocketsurgeon2141
      @rocketsurgeon2141 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A Kawasaki commercial, nothing more. These geezers didn't take their considerable body weight differences into account.

    • @jeremycerny862
      @jeremycerny862 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      if i would ride the h2 the results would be diffrent hahaha i'm only 80 kg.

  • @iDECIMIS
    @iDECIMIS 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0:10 beer belly, speed hump, lookin good!

  • @greensocks4507
    @greensocks4507 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for posting. I'll stick with my '18 ZX14R. Brembo brakes and Ohlin shock standard.Yoshimura pipes, tail tidy and frame sliders. My perfect bike. And the best looking Kawasaki of the three, by far.

  • @gabeballinger375
    @gabeballinger375 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the ZZR tha same as ZX14 R (Gen 2)?
    .

  • @GregWallis
    @GregWallis 8 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Great real world review. A small fluffy deadcat on those lav mics would have made it even better.

    • @IgnitionBikeShow
      @IgnitionBikeShow  8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Greg Wallis It was an exceptionally windy day when we filmed this test and our equipment was found to be sadly lacking. Also, a dead cat doesn't really go with leathers!

    • @Smoove233
      @Smoove233 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +The Bike Show okay

    • @compassionandempathy7537
      @compassionandempathy7537 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +The Bike Show But apparently at 0:14 Harry's hair matches his leathers. I make joke :) Next time just chop some of his hair off and POOF, you got yourself the freshest deadcat.

    • @dute007
      @dute007 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +The Bike Show is it the latest model sir i mean 2015 or 2016 zx10r and zx14r? May GODBLESS us all! :D

    • @bonferoni6664
      @bonferoni6664 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +The Bike Show A 200hp zx10r, sounds fishy!

  • @kiddcisco
    @kiddcisco 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    getting an 08 ZX14 next week, cant wait, migrating to one from my XX

  • @johnadams7402
    @johnadams7402 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a ZX14R and absolutely love it. It's a rocket on wheels.

  • @DonaldRPilon
    @DonaldRPilon ปีที่แล้ว

    EXCELLENT Vid!! Thank you :-)

  • @like-icecream
    @like-icecream 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I start to fall asleep when there's too much talking.

  • @meeeer3282
    @meeeer3282 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE THOSE DISPLAYED HELMEEEETS!!!

  • @olysasquatch
    @olysasquatch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No ZX 12 in there...?!?
    I own a 2005 Candy Thunder Blue and I've clocked over 85k on it since new.
    One of the fastest machines ever made!😉

    • @geraldperry7779
      @geraldperry7779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's too bad Kawasaki did carry the look with the 14 into the 12 chassis.

    • @progste
      @progste 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's out of production, basically rhe zx14 is the new zx12. Though I have to say the zx12 looks better.

    • @stevedougherty6370
      @stevedougherty6370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@progste I politely disagree. The ZX-12's looks are too generic, from afar it could look like a ZX-9, GSX-R 750 or other random sport bike.. there's nothing distinct about it and it lacks personality. The ZX-14 screams personality with its more wrapped, covered/enclosed and aerodynamic fairing, lower and longer wheel base / profile.. beefier wider stature and just overall much bolder road presence. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; sure. However the general consensus across the most popular Kawasaki forums across the globe all say the zx-14 is a massive cosmetic leap over anything kawasaki's done before. That said, my 'opinion' is the '06 to '11 model (gen 1) is prettier than the gen 2 models.. On the flipside, if anyone ever came here saying the hayabusa looks best, they need a new set of eyes. How anyone can say those overly curved bulbous blobs are pretty is beyond me. Aside from the power output and the fact the zx-14 wasn't around for the first 7 years of the busa's existence, i never understood why they caught so much attention and had a bunch of blind, tasteless folk running out buying them. Terrible looking bikes.

  • @jcpadilla3381
    @jcpadilla3381 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great review btw

  • @JohnSmith-te6wz
    @JohnSmith-te6wz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liter bike all day. Lightweight, handles, way cheaper than the h2, and still way faster than anyone needs. I just bought my first liter bike, k5 gsxr 1000, and I've never been more in love with a machine. I had a 350 whp evo x and will never go back to cars. It's crazy to me that on a bike 80 mph feels slower than in a car. The way it speeds up AND slows down is unbelievable. I've done 100+ mph in places the evo would never be able to. These things are purpose built go fast machines. They want to go fast.

  • @Bluelightbandit
    @Bluelightbandit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That H2 is just fucking badass.

  • @brynstephens4624
    @brynstephens4624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome show guy's, my bloody mouth is watering again 😀

  • @DreadHeadDecarlo
    @DreadHeadDecarlo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    and that's why those of us with older zx10r's convert to the zx14r calipers.

  • @bullseye1470
    @bullseye1470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Juat picked up an 09 zx14 with 10080 miles for 3300 I'm stoked

  • @Kneedragon1962
    @Kneedragon1962 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I will try to be brief. I did own a ZX14, unfortunately I smashed it (and me) rather badly, in mid 2012. I still own an R6 race bike (which I have not ridden since the 14 crash, let alone raced) and I did go for one rather extended 'test ride' on a slightly sorted and breathed-on ZX10R. I have not ridden an H2. The 10R has handling that is almost sublime, and it has very serious top end power. It has traction control that really works. When ridden like stolen, it is a nearly perfect bike. When ridden around the houses, or like the car behind you has silly lights on the roof, it is not so nice. It has a very light crank & flywheel and a very light clutch, and I understand Johnny Rea and others have begged for even lighter units this year which Kawasaki has delivered... That will make an even better race bike, but an even worse road bike. The 14 has a truly outstanding engine & clutch. Both bullet-proof. Both easy to use. Both fast if you want to be, but quite every-day in the real world. The 14 also has room to do normal things, like carry a pillion. And despite having no steering damper, it is beautifully stable and assured on the road. Unfortunately, it cannot corner with my R6, or the 10R, or for that matter my son's 954 'blade. It's simply much too long. And, I found the original BT014s to be ordinary at best. I was quite happy to get rid of them. It took most of the next year to find a tyre that worked. The top sport / touring Metzler, the M5(?) seems to work quite well, but most other tyres cause this bike to stand up like it has 15psi in the front. The ZX14 puts quite a lot of weight on the front tyre, and you need quite a solid tyre for it to work. I have loved Michelin Pilot Powers on other bikes, but they (and the Pilot Pure) are a disaster on the ZX14. Much too light & flexible. Obviously, what I want is a bike with the 14R engine & transmission, and the 10R chassis. Sadly, I don't think shoe-horning the big motor into the little bike would quite work the way I want...

    • @raven-jz6cv
      @raven-jz6cv 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      interesting opinion. i agree with u zx10r as with the zx6r models always were more easy to ride when riden on an aggressive paste but for city daily rides suspension needs major adjustments. overall does it worth buying a zx14r? in matters of comfort ,speed, sometimes cornering weekends:) and power? ur opinion means a lot . thanks

    • @Kneedragon1962
      @Kneedragon1962 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Marios, I think one of the nicest bikes I have ridden is my son's 954 FireBlade. It has a chassis and suspension that are good enough, not quite up to the ZX10R but not all that far off, and it has some power, not quite up to the 10R but not that far off. It also has some flywheel. And it has a clutch that feels reasonably solid and strong. It has a serious sports riding position, but it is not quite a racebike in terms of natural position. It is slightly old-school in some ways. It has bottom end and serious mid-range power. That is ... a double edged sword. I like it, but then I had a 1976 GS750 in 1979 and I traded it for a GSX11 in 1980 because that made heaps more power - ie, I have been playing the fool on big bikes for a very long time. I LIKE lots of midrange. The fact modern bikes make so little midrange means you get a lot of throttle on very early, because you know the bike will not bite you. Don't try that on an early '80s Jap 4, it will high-side you...
      The ZX14 has a great engine and transmission, I really like them. The chassis, that has good points and bad points. It is stable, and it does handle well, in the sense that you can tip it in or lift it up at will. But it does not turn well. It is simply too long. And it is rather fussy about what tyres you use. Metzler M5s seem to suit it quite well, but I went through quite a few different tyres that I really like on other bikes, before I found ones that would work on the 14.
      The major thing I would recommend, is try as many different bikes as you can, under as many different conditions, and don't listen to old fools like me. What suits me might not suit you. What I like, you might hate. Take any and all advice from older riders, with some caution. I got a heap of advice from older riders when I was a teen, or early 20s, and while a little bit of it was very good, most of it was absolute crap! The expert you need to listen to is yourself. Nobody knows what you like as well as you do.

    • @raven-jz6cv
      @raven-jz6cv 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Kneedragon1962 u r a legend bro thanks. when i got the busa aftet having an r1 for 3 yrs everyone told me she cant turn she cant that she cant this. turns out its the best bike i ever had. i have a zx6r 2008 for daily riden cause i dont have a car and it never snows where i come from but lately after seeing a few zx14r's i got a bit hooked on how angry and bulk beautiful they look. i aint a track rider maybe once every 3 months so im looking for comfort without losing that busa feeling . busa new version also sounds cool or u think zx14r is more advanced as a bike

    • @Kneedragon1962
      @Kneedragon1962 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marios Kuzalis Ok. The latest ZX14 has the traction control from the 10R. I know it works in the 10R, and I hear it works just as well on the 14.
      The 14 runs wide in corners. There are two parts to this. (1) Tyres. Most tyres make it stand up, which makes it go straight. The Metzler is a less flexible tyre, so at normal pressure (about 36 ~ 40 psi) it is neutral, does not want to fall in or stand up. Grip is ... as good as anything else. (...at least once the tyre is scrubbed in - they are a bit slippery when brand new, and they fall in a bit, they do get neutral, but only when they're fully scrubbed.) Break away is fairly progressive, but not quite as good as some. Feel... there is feel but you need to get used to it. It doesn't jump out at you like the Michelin Pures do, on lighter bikes. (2) The other thing is the 14 is LONG. No matter what you do with it, it will always run a bigger radius curve in any corner than a ZX6. Or, the 6 will be at 30 deg and you will be at 45 to match him. The difference is very noticeable. I also have an R6 race bike, and that seems to run about 1/3 tighter again for any given speed / lean angle. I got to do about 5 ~ 6 laps on my son's 954 at the track and I loved it, had to give it back to him before I crashed it. Heaps of fun. LOL.

    • @raven-jz6cv
      @raven-jz6cv 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Kneedragon1962 ok ill take ur advice and give it a try on kawasaki dealership when they open. you are absolutely right i have metzler on my busa and dunlops on my zx6r both can be used for light track days use as their manual said. but metzler is more friendly on the city rides on the big busa sometimes so comfy that i stop and check the pressure thinking its running low which it dont dont . cool metzler indeed . thanks for ur precious advices and opinions ill try and use em wisely

  • @Ihelpanytime
    @Ihelpanytime 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The ZX-10R seems the best of both worlds in my opinion.

    • @ihateeverything3972
      @ihateeverything3972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd say the H2. Its lighter and more flickable, and has a ton of power.
      Too expensive though.

    • @stevedougherty6370
      @stevedougherty6370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you mean the ZX-14 - they stated it's the best all rounder and many other reviews say same. You're ignorant to the fact the ZX-14 wins, because you have a personal opinion / soft spot for the ZX-10 . Opinions are different to facts.

  • @ccol009
    @ccol009 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can’t believe this video is 7 years old as of now (9 . 25 . 2023)

  • @MrMisdemeanor1
    @MrMisdemeanor1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review guys

  • @coachrubenluna2729
    @coachrubenluna2729 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Review!

  • @ross5506
    @ross5506 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm proud owner of ZX14 turbocharged with over 150 ft/lbs of torque it's king.

  • @tuninforks5174
    @tuninforks5174 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job,as always! I would like to see a road test part of this. Which one is better to live with in the real world?

    • @jonathanung5746
      @jonathanung5746 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Tunin Forks I'd go with the 14. Very comfortable without losing out much performance. Still corners very well for a big bike. Lots of power and torque.

    • @alexxela754
      @alexxela754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Easily the zx14.
      Zx10 is pure sport.
      H2 is max power performance.

  • @mikemadshogun
    @mikemadshogun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do you list the Zx10r as only having 160bhp in the specifications When it is listed as having 200 bhp or 203ps elsewhere?

  • @jacksonsouza112233
    @jacksonsouza112233 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recomendaria um teste com as três motos com o mesmo tipo de pneu. A ZX10 estava com um pneu Anjel Gt e a H12 com o pneu Super Corsa. Isso da sim um diferença grande.

  • @aaronp9835
    @aaronp9835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rather have the 6R with modifications. Lighter and more nimble. Also they make Supercharger kits for the 6R that outs it at 190whp. Or even the 750R.
    14R is a heavy pig

  • @adventureriders4515
    @adventureriders4515 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love the ZX10 !

  • @stephenbudge4313
    @stephenbudge4313 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite is Zx14. Because that is what I own. Just for fun.

  • @TheAnipeace
    @TheAnipeace 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What currency do they use

  • @dwightpenn9475
    @dwightpenn9475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Snap! Love them Kaws

  • @dudebud72
    @dudebud72 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I owned the Hayabusa sold it 2010. It was second generation, my prior was first generation hayabusa, now I own a new ZX14r because of the comfort. I’m tall and truly eyed another busa but walked into my local dealership and the were selling the 2023 ZX14r and the 200 miles so far have me saying the 14r against the busa pulls harder. The 14 can go on a 400 miles road trip with my 6’4” height, which the busa couldn’t.

  • @jamesbarron1202
    @jamesbarron1202 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    No 1/4 mile runs? WTF. I think the 14 will take the H2 in the 1/4 with it's longer wheelbase and torque. I think the H2 will be harder to launch. Please do 1/4 mile drag times on these bikes. Thanks for the vid guys

    • @MelodicTurtleMetal
      @MelodicTurtleMetal 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +James Barron You would think it would have to be. Each one of these bikes acceleration should be limited to the length of the bike. Keeping the wheel down is th only real factor, and the 14r has both length and front weight in advantage.

    • @DriftKingNL
      @DriftKingNL 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keeping the wheel down issn't that much of an issue with bikes that have all kinds of electronic stuff to even prevent wheelies.

    • @MelodicTurtleMetal
      @MelodicTurtleMetal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, but the way they keep the wheel down is by limiting the power to the wheel automatically. The zx-14r has longer wheelbase and more weight, and is harder to lift the front off, so the electronic stuff keeping the wheel down doesn't kick in as often, which means more power to the wheel for longer.

    • @abuhanif1364
      @abuhanif1364 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      MelodicTurtleMetal v

  • @ahmadtheaviationlover1937
    @ahmadtheaviationlover1937 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these bikes are awesome! I want one of these bikes when I finish my driving license on a motorcycle!

    • @chriswood2205
      @chriswood2205 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I want one EVEN WITHOUT a motorcycle license.

    • @ahmadtheaviationlover1937
      @ahmadtheaviationlover1937 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @markwarner5910
      @markwarner5910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PLEASE DON'T IF YOU WANT TO LIVE A LONG LIFE. I've been riding for 46 years and don't see a reason for you to kill yourself with your first bike.

  • @toddjacobs5660
    @toddjacobs5660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All great bikes 👍

  • @jamesdyer6120
    @jamesdyer6120 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, would have been better to see them all on the same rubber though.

  • @MrCylan88
    @MrCylan88 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    sorry to interupt. but doing cornering and braking test on different tyres? that will affect the result

    • @corylepire342
      @corylepire342 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That being said the 14R has sport touring tires. Throe the 10r tires on it and it beats em all

  • @rebeccafulton8064
    @rebeccafulton8064 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good vid mate

  • @malcolmabram2957
    @malcolmabram2957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My bike, a BMW R1250R, produces more torque, except the HS2, than these bikes, but less power. For road use, torque is to be valued more than outright power, it pulls like anything even from 2000 rpm. There is no need to rev the engine hard, and as a roadster, it makes it so relaxing to ride through the twisties.

  • @documencontrolclub956
    @documencontrolclub956 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fantastic

  • @leofreihofer
    @leofreihofer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:57 damn that tail pipe is huge!

  • @larryhouse3776
    @larryhouse3776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a 14r owner. Waiting for the day they make a supercharged zx14r replacement. It's in a league of its own among the others. Being the king of Street bikes among these other Track Bike toys. The 14r is built for you to love it.

  • @aspjake123
    @aspjake123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Didn't know Frank Zappa still alive and riding!

    • @castrorjs
      @castrorjs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Come on... Frank Zappa was curly!

    • @aspjake123
      @aspjake123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@castrorjs LOL!!!!

  • @-DHR4870
    @-DHR4870 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is this show aimed at? 🤔

  • @richardmerrifield8186
    @richardmerrifield8186 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put a set of LSL / Spiegler bars on my '06 ZX 14.Now after 100 miles,my neck and shoulders are no longer on fire. !

  • @toddjacobs5660
    @toddjacobs5660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All great bikes, im on my 2nd Conny 14

  • @munchiesgaming3067
    @munchiesgaming3067 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    LEKKER MAN.Nice south african bike channel

  • @selcukyilmaz7414
    @selcukyilmaz7414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want all of them 💚🖤

  • @ZedZexer
    @ZedZexer 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Accurate comparison

  • @mostlyharmless11
    @mostlyharmless11 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doesn't saying "the h2 just FEELS different when you ride it, even if the numbers don't seem all that groundbreaking" mean that there's some other stat of the bike that we're not looking at? like power/weight, etc? there's obv something there making it go faster than cc's or torque, etc. implies on paper?

    • @ReaLzEdits
      @ReaLzEdits 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +mostlyharmless11 Its the low end torque that gives it that "faster than anything" feeling :)

    • @MelodicTurtleMetal
      @MelodicTurtleMetal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +ReaLzEdits I've been told it's a combo of the sound and vibration, combined with the acceleration that should honestly flip a bike that short.

  • @kabitadas3191
    @kabitadas3191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice.

  • @rackem6991
    @rackem6991 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Frank Zappa is alive!!!!!

  • @kawakarma
    @kawakarma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    KHI all the way whichever one you go for but love to ride a H2 some day!

  • @sushibar1
    @sushibar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is the winner?

  • @ahmadfahrialjunayd
    @ahmadfahrialjunayd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:18 That hair, that damn hair...

  • @kennywest9626
    @kennywest9626 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Re watched this for the 10th time now. Iconic video and excellent comparison. Now to get 10k for a zx14r😂

  • @johnshields6852
    @johnshields6852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only brand new vehicle I ever bought was in 1986, a ninja 1000, bikeshow in Boston, the dealer gave me his card with the price 4,400 dollars, when I went to pickup the red machine the dealer said 5,600 dollars, luckily I had the card, but they didn't want to let me have it, but after a few minutes of standing my ground he grudgingly let me have it, I miss that bike more than my exes, I'm 62 now and if I could afford one, I'd get the 1400, I love the look and the extra weight I prefer, I feel that bike was built for me,lol, I already know I'd fit it like a glove, but I imagine it's very expensive.

    • @UltimateEnd0
      @UltimateEnd0 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should do it...follw your dreams and cruise around on a ZX14R

  • @timcarter952
    @timcarter952 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent writing gentleman Junkie

  • @jakespeed4072
    @jakespeed4072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good vid. But why choose ....I own a 2013 Hayabusa, a 2014 ZX14r, & a 2015 H2 ... but if I had to - the ZX14r is the best all around bike (Tho the H2 has my heart- Its beastly)