2018 Kawasaki H2 SX Full Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ค. 2018
- Kawasaki blew us all away with the H2, the supercharged monster that was a triumph of modern engineering and packaging. Now they've added a whole new dose of practicality to the concept and brought out the H2SX, the touring model. Has bringing in some sanity to the recipe diluted the experience or enhanced it? Donovan tries to find out.
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"range of 300 metres" lol
Great review guys. I like that you voiced some honest criticisms of it, instead of just being Kawi cheerleaders. It looks like an awesome bike.
Just got myself a 2017 Ninja 1000 (Z1000SX) 5 days ago and absolutely in love with it. A major upgrade from my Honda CB500F.
This show is brilliant...good job guys
Awesome machine!
Well done Kawasaki!
I love the supercharged Sound of the beast!
AeroR 🚀
brilliant video
Well done, you guys deserved far more subs.
If you haven't read Donovan's written review on the H2 SX, go read it! Donovan, your energy and enthusiasm shines through your review, and your use of hyperbole is brilliant. I really enjoy your writing.
Great review guys.
Great review👍. Watching the drag race was fun.
Awesome review, just what I was looking for.
I am fortunate to have both bikes. I have a 2016 ZX14R and love it. Had to get the H2SX also. I have had it for about a month. Love both bikes. The H2SX is a blast to ride. The sounds it makes is worth the price of admission. Could never give up my 14 though. I hope they decided to supercharge the 14. Remember when it comes to horsepower, too much is barely enough.
you lucky cat!
Chris ZX14R Same here bro. Have a ZX14 and a H2 SX SE. Don't think they will ever supercharge the ZX14 because it would require an intercooler which the H2s don't need. The ZX14 would overheat and the intercooler takes up to much space. The ramair is eough for the H2, but not enough for the ZX14. That's why Kawasaki supercharged a 1000 and not a 1400. If they would have, they would've dominated the market, but overheating issues would have cost them millions in warranty work and eventually sales because of the issues.
imagine these bikes getting recalled by thousands!! it could cripple the company!
It would be nice to see a review and or comparison talk between the differences between the two bikes by a real owner.
@@78cobra I wish I was a good TH-camr. I would. Both great in their own way. Still would pick the ZX14R though.
Yeaaaaaa I love this review man dang!!! I sat on Sx about 2 months ago and I test rode a 2017 Suzuki hyabusa. Now I saw Brock's performance put his hands on one on TH-cam and pumped that sx up to 245hp. If you go on TH-cam you can find a video but at the same time I love this azuki Hayabusa I also sat on a ZX-14r and I love the riding positioning but that hyabusa is kind to me I have to get one thank you guys for this I depth review of the bike IAM about to purchase and I wanted to see what you guys thought.
The added cost just can't be justified, the zx14 does me just fine.
Absolutely. Bigger engine doesn't have to work as hard.
Same here. I actually changed the exhausts and had the ECU flashed. It made a smoother bike smoother, and faster, and fuel economy is better.
I won't be swapping my ZZR14 any time soon.....and surely I am not the only one out there who isn't at all surprised the big Zed thrashed it.....
Brother I have 2008 ZX-14 turbocharged everything done, I just wanted something take, purchased this baby at $15k screaming deal! Love just rode it today. Tommorow going be 10c nice day for real ride fine how really good it is. Since I got it $6200 below list price, getting full Brock exhaust, sprint air filter, flash ECU and we got 240+ hp. Check out Brock Davidson TH-cam video on it.
@@williamsterben torque!
love the show guys
Yeah put an aftermarket exhaust and a ecuflash on the H2SX and the ZZR1400 will disappear in the rear view mirror. It also handles better in the twisties than the ZZR1400. The H2 SX is extremely restricted from factory. Brocks Performance got 240 hp out of it with a slip-on and a ecuflash :)
Great review. I'll hang on to my ZZR for a while longer. I test rode the H2 SX, its a beautiful Bike, comfy, lovely gearbox, easy to filter in traffic and incredibly good on fuel if you taker it easy (70mpg @ 55mph) but also fast when you want it to be. Agree also, I want one & also agree many one extras on the SX SE I don't really want. Quickshifters don't short shift very well and the gearbox is buttery smooth anyway.
Yeah agree, now 5 years later and the 2018 black H2 SX is becoming very cheap to buy used. It does not have quickshifter but It has cruisecontrol which I value higher than quickshifter since I ride for long trips. Do you still ride your ZZR or did you switch for a H2 SX ?
H2 looks so good 💜😍🔥
service nightmare for mechanics...
Doesn't seem like a good value proposition when it costs 50% more than the ZZR-1400 (ZX-14R). Added complexity usually means less reliability or higher maintenance requirements as well.
You don't buy Kawi if you worry about maintenance lol.
They say they lose money on everyone they sell
R C wym? I’ve put 50k miles on my h2 in the time I’ve owned it, only had to do valve clearances and oil changes (plus little stuff here and there)
"Doesn't seem" lmao 🙄.. while I love all Kawasaki's.. Keep your dinosaur 😂.. Any H2 is Godzilla 🦖
Terrific, Thank you.
H2 SX (SE) is a nice replacement for the GTR-1400 , but the ZZR-1400 is just something special and nice to ride either fast or normal
H2 GTR plz!
share your experience about Aprilia RSV4 FW-GP
So, where do you get a plasma tv in 2019?
Great show guys ,the zzr1400 would still nobble it in you test in standard trim due to the torque .A friends zzr1400 has akra system and pcv k&n which puts out 218 rwhp ,it trumps most bikes until the roads get really twisty .I do feel if you used the launch control it would have been a lot closer .
A slip-on and a remap and the H2SX gets about 230 hp and then It wins against the ZZR1400. The black H2SX 2018 model is becoming cheap on the used market so that is a dreambike I soon can afford :D
Hello guys, chirping sound is blow-off valve. Like on all turbo or super charged cars. Not blades crossing sound speed barrier. I have H2 and it is scary to ride, you are right. But love it more with the time ). All the best from Russia, like your channel a lot.
The sound appears when he shuts the throttle, sounds to me like compressor surge.
Great review as always. I was really hoping this bike was going to a challenger for the superduke GT, reading between the lines I'm thinking it has missed that mark.
Well if you read between the lines some more... you'll find out the ZX14/GTR1400 isn't stock.. was a pretty one sided review sadly.
It's maybe not very fast, but it's very cool.
I would love too see that race when the h2sx is de-destricted. All know the h2sx is neutered at the top end by a lot.
Me too
The ZX14 is also neutered..gotta de-destrict both bikes to be fair..
I think the ninja h2sx is better bike then zx14
@@ridefree2153 "Better" is subjective.. The cost isn't subjective..the SX has a built in sticker shock factor..
@@DarkSim77 I just toured on my zx14r for a week. I'd pay 5 grand for cruise control alone.
One of the reasons I bought ZZR was your film from 2012, it convinced me to test this amazing Kawasaki at a local dealer in Poland. I had it for few years & can tell ZZR was the best bike I ever had. Thanks guys! Greetings from Europe (-:
Did any one get on to yhe fuel eco to a full tank what he said 300 meters to a tank pmsl
Right. So you've put time in on the H2 SX.
You've also put time in on the 1290 GT and S1000XR, which are the H2 SX's obvious competitors.
Any chance of a 3 way comparison? Can't see that ANYONE has bothered to do it.
Who would've thought a person's laugh could sound better than a supercharger! 🤣
2019 SX SE has electronic suspension.
I have 2008 ZX-14 turbocharged fully done carbon rims Ohlins etc. I couldn't resist the deal of 2018 model at $15K save $6200. Now going get Brock full exhaust, ECU flash, sprint air filter you got 240hp. Update in 2 months still in the garage snow still on the road. 🇨🇦
This is hard to justify. I bought my 2015 ZX14R for $11k brand new. The dealer currently has one of these for $22k. My 14R is comfortable, faster in the quarter mile and gets just over 40MPG (17km/L, as opposed to the SX's 11.7km/L). I love the bike but I could literally buy TWO ZX14R's for this price!.
Double the fun, two zx14's 🥳 great bike, the zx14!
LOL, just reflash and de-restrict the H2SX ecu and you've got 210 hp at the rear wheel, bone stock. Literally a couple hundred dollar mod that takes a few minutes (after you tear all the plastic off to get to it). The H2SX is SEVERELY restricted.
And now with a slip on and ghul tune it has 240whp
That cricket sound :))
good ride with the mrs...
when ever I see these men I get the vibes of bike gurus.
Yesss
Nice but i'm going to stick with my ZZR1400 for the time being, new bikes just cost way too much. Great review guys.
Simon Foster
Im waiting for them to retrofit the cruise control to my 2016 zx14. Then I would have my perfect bike.
Would rather the zzr1400 any way
Yep, ZX14R all day long and all night too, damn those new Kwaka’s are ugly!
Stealth That’s not what I was saying and you know it, I was clearly referencing the NEW Kawasaki’s H2 and H2 SX
hows the fuel economy on the zzr14? is it also the same as the zx14r?
Is it lighter than the 14?
The tips do not break the speed of sound if it did it would implode
unless it had a convergent inlet duct. If it was breaking the speed of
sound it would be making the noise at full throttle highest rpm not at
throttle chop. The sound you hearing is air not having anywhere to go
some call it slippage.
I would love a spot of tea.
My ZZR1400 Gen 2 corners brilliantly.
Mr Donovan ate dust ... hahaha
Good vid
Zzr1400 doesn't corner? funny that .Because in one of your previous video's your test rider said it cornered as good as h2 and zx10?🤔I to will stick with the brembos ohlins 😉
I remember that as well, how quick they forget!
Howard Whitaker still slower though 😉👍
Not a glimmer of chicken strips on my ZZR
I already bought this beast
The mics need more deadcat material to reduce wind noise
didn't realise they neutered it so much compared to the H2
What do you mean, the 2019 H2 is based on the improvements to this bike.
with a slip on and tune 240hp....
Most if not all kaws neutered moron.. Unlock the beast!
Do a flash of the ECU and the H2SX picks up 50hp. Then run the race.
then it crashes because too much surge of power...
R Zu I've just recently flashed my ECU on my 2017 H2..result..243bhp rear wheel...bad news 70miles per tank...verdict who gives a shit it's fucking awesome....
With 11.2 to 1 compression ratio I doubt you can get another 50hp from a tune unless you decide to switch fuels.
jastoritaz01 faker
Spend a pile of money to get the hyper-crazy touring machine. Then spend even more to make it fast.
So they got power with a smaller engine. Great. Why not supercharge the 14r though?
Coz we are running out of cemeteries !!
Throttle goes both ways. Any bike is only too much if you ask for it.
possibly clutch slippage and a need for a larger supercharger
And then suzuki makes a factory turbo busa. Will things stop at 400 kmph this time?
Things shoudn't stop at all. When speed gets limited everyone aims at that limit. Then as soon as it's lifted they aim at the next goal.
Take all that nonsense away and no one really cares about top speeds because they all do enough.
Then development would start going towards putting the power down, having a larger spread and so on.
Chasing nuumbers is what stops a lot of sportbikes being fun. Now a lot of them are just rev boxes to create headline numbers no one ever uses.
good
You can get another 40 hp with a Brock Davidson performance package. For about 2500 bucks. Well worth it
Loving the Rick hairstyle from Rick and Morty.
incognito 82 ;
So, can a person flash the chip of the sx like you can the regular h2 to add a fair bit of free how gains? Not that you would need more, but it would still be cool to know
I may have read somehwere that they put a slightly smaller supercharger on the SX so even with a tune it would not have the power of a tuned H2. I could be wrong
Dadul Ludad yeah i dont think it could have the power of the h2, but just was curious if they are restricting it in somewhat of a similar fashion even if u cant get as much. I think the waste gate open early or something also. If money was no object, i would actually prefer the sx if it is more comfortable (i ride a lot). If i would ever get one it will have to be a second hand one though in a few years
Read somewhere that you could get 225 to the backwheel just by flashing it. It's set up for mileage from the factory apparently. It might be total bollocks though... google?
The supercharger is the same one, but the angle of the blades are different, so it's never going to be as beastly as the original H2.
The H2 has 30 lbs of boost, the H2 SX and SX SE run 20 lbs of boost at a way higher compression ratio, with smaller throttle bodies. Means you won't get near the same HP flash results as you would with the H2.
You won't get regular H2 numbers, but you'll definitely smoke a ZZR1400 or ZX14 once it's all said and done.
How did they make it heavier and less powerful than a ZX14?
I think it's actually lighter. The ZX14's are 594lbs and the SX is like 564lbs
H2 sx is heavily restricted in his stock ecu. slip on and a good tune can unlock to 220-240 HP at the rear wheel. ZZR1400 would look like ninja 300 comparing to this bike when fully unlocked.
The H2 SX vs ZZR 1400 speed test would be more fair if you removed that chimney of an exhaust + cat, gave it a proper tune and used same weight riders!
plus give the 14 a supercharger ...
Tim Gooding Kawasaki can't due to heat issues. Would require an intercooler which there is no room for.
Good point. I guess we'll just have to make due with this: th-cam.com/video/wFOR_4UMyBU/w-d-xo.html
Due or Do?
Don't be fooled. Double the length of that run and the H2 SX would have reeled the 14 in and walked past it. The 14 has more TQ which helps it out from the start. It'll definitely jump on the H2 SX. But once rolling and given enough space the supercharged liter bike will make mincemeat of the ZZR. That race definitely was not long enough.
You're full of crapola. That's not what we are seeing. Do you even own a bike?
um....am I the only one who knows that weight = power? 1 rider weighs 150 pounds the other over 220... no crap the 1400 won the weight difference was huge, hell some race's are decided by a difference on 1 kilo let alone 30 +
We swopped. The 1400 still won.
Donovan Fourie well tie me up and call me Bob, I guess the 1400 is a rocket from the past haha
Weight makes a difference but the more power the less difference. By the time you're at these power levels it's only going to make any real difference at very high speeds.
emudshit lmfao the h2SX is slower than the zx14 stock to stock... its well known well before this review got their hands on it.
The zx14 is dramatically slower when its tune vs tune and only gets worse as more mods are added. Take this video with a grain of salt
...a grain of salt and enjoy it!
Idk , I wanted to buy this but I think I will go for the zx10 instead since I want a super sport bike and not some type of hybrid.
kk tbh the drag race was a lil unfair... riders weight wasn't equivalent and that has a big effect... the zx is clearly modded in some way as there is an exsaust.. could be sprocket changes and ECU flash as well which would probably put it ahead of the sx... so im not gonna say its not as fast as a zx because this test mucked up the comparison... if all factors going in were equal id say for sure.. either way both great bikes. also the supercharger in this application is to give you a massive spread of torque from 0-redline without drop off which is what makes this so cool as a bike.
Cool i love Kawasaki ninja
why do not you ever invite me, I would also gladly try the bikes and I would eat and drink a lot
In the race they started in a slow roll low rpms.. Of course the big engine with huge tq going to fly away.. Either do dig or 60mph roll
What is the difference between the first Kawasaki H2, H2 SX and H2 SX SE?
JCM 27 When they say H2 they’re referring to the top tier ninja which is a hypersport that retails around 55 thousand $. The H2 SX is the start of the sport touring series which is basically the H2 hypersport dumbed down a little bit and set up more for touring. It also retails much lower at 19 thousand $. The H2 SX SE is just the special edition version of the SX bringing you more electronics. This year they just released the H2 SX SE+ that adds a new color scheme as well as an app that can track your rides and it will also show you a good amount of stats as well. Hope this helps!
@@DanielA7X2895 Thanks for clarifying!
I just had a salesman tell me that the H2 SX will “Walk away from a ZX14R”. I wanted to show him this video.
The ZZR has been modded, the H2SX is totally standard, a small investment of slipon end can and reflash on the H2SX and it will rip the back out of a ZZR
Did you said the bike goes 300 meters in a full tank ?!!!
I think a h2 sx with 750 instead of the 1000 or the 600 suggested would have been an awesome compromise between the two and maybe not felt so big
yeah they should supercharge the smaller 500-700cc kitties with slimmer engines,...that will improve them on par with the N/A 1000s
Not to ruined your party but I have a zzr-1400 and it’s great but the race you did was kinda trick because you should try it with exchanging the driver because this only could make a huge difference not wanted to be bitching but the guy on the sx looks a little bit heavier than the one on the zzr and I remember in the times I had a Yamaha r1 and my friend as a gsxr-1000 and every times we try things like this or roll on on the highway he would win but with a little Less difference than your race and when à was trying his bike I keep saying that the power was looking about the same and finally we try racing on the others bike what would you know every time he would beat me with my R1 so the only thing who was loosing was the one I was sitting on and believed me it’s not because I don’t know how to drive the reason was only the weights and between him and me there was about 30 pounds so if you would have change rider I guess that the sx wouldn’t have won anyway but the difference would have been much less that what we saw, also I heard that the sx with a simple reflash would gained a heaffty 50 HP so for around 500 $ you are on a completely different machine so my zzr has a full yosh,reflash,and bazzaz with tuned that gives him a good 209 hp with 126 pounds of torques and even if I’m really happy with it I wouldn’t say no to a sx if my financial situation would be ok with it 😂😂👍👍👍👍👍
60k bike crazy
I’ve seen the bike for around 18k here in Ohio for previous year models. That would make it pretty close to worth it for me.
He said the h2 can take corners ???
Not fast enough we want 300 HP !
YEAH!!!! ...... more cowbell damn it.
Nekminute😂
only issue i see is this bike has a short gear ratio for a touring bike even shorter than a h2
did you just say 11L/100km? well..my FZ09 gets 5.9 and i'm fairly aggressive on the streets. :(
So call me stupid or a troll but hear me out. I started on an H2 sx (yes I know) and I treated it with lots of respect and caution. I’ve been riding it for almost 2 years now and I feel “outgrown” to it, the power no longer blows my mind and the spark I once felt when hopping on the saddle is no longer there.. does anyone have any advice on this issue?
You've become addicted to adrenaline, friend. A known phenomenon.
One year later and I’m still in the same predicament :( my h2 has 22k miles on it and I treat it like an old dirt bike. Nothing has ever scratched my itch
One year later and I’m still in the same predicament :( my h2 has 22k miles on it and I treat it like an old dirt bike. Nothing has ever scratched my itch
💯🔥
2 things:
First, it is funny how they didn't say anything about riders weight difference.
Second, a nice comparison would be the H2 SX and the ninja S1000SX.
We swopped bikes. No difference in the outcome.
I'll wait for the next revision should be about perfect and worth changing until then, ZX14 is easier to work on and does everything I need.
Use the launch control and drop the clutch on the SX and I think the result will look different.
ZX-14R has launch control available, too.
Oh well then nevermind...
saddlebag And also maybe put a lighter rider on the H2SX?😅
I see. I don't own any of these newer electronic filled monsters. How does one get going? Does launch control allow one to take off without the clutch?
The sx does not have launch control the sx se does.
The KTM Super Duke GT will have this bike for breakfast
Where is 4 K video ??????
Yeah whenever they say they detuned it, or retuned it or tuned it for more torque or whatever nonsense , it means they made it SLOWER. Same nonsense with naked bikes...
it looks like they used the left overs of the h2 to make this thing haha
if the h2 was a ninja 300 this is what it would look like
*kawazaki*
fuck. Currently have my H2 and my ZX14r for sale.... in order to buy an H2SX. Seeing how the 14 pulled away from the H2SX has my like WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING.
at 1.44 he says tank has a range of over 300 metres,,,i would hope so,lol
Why was the sx rider twisting the throttle when it can be pinned open, quick shift???.......
Should have swapped bikes then raced again.....
Philip Rogers Noticed that too, lol. I love the quick shifter. Greatest thing ever. Pin it and lift it!
I’d rather have a kx450f in the background
The H2 engine is a jewel, but I don’t read much about “character”. . . just grunt ‘n go?
Donovan reminds me of Peter Griffin. Can't figure out why.
talking your kid to school on a H2? lol
BOX?! ON this? NEVER!
if they can build a bike with nearly same performance but smoother running engine that is more fuel efficient and more likely to pass future emissions standards then they pretty much have to do it. do you have to buy one ? no. as for why not supercharge a 600 the answer is because 600s are dead - you want to build on top of a platform that isn't going anywhere. they took the most proven engine configuration - the liter - and managed to give it more horsepower and torque and make it more fuel efficient all at once - and people are complaining. it is a waste of money to develop three different engines when you can have one engine with three levels of boost and sold at three different price points. all automakers have already switched to this model where every car gets a 2.0 liter turbo but with different levels of performance - motorcycles as always are just lagging behind cars with tech like abs, traction control, cruise control ... and forced induction. this is the future except in the future the supercharger will be driven by an electric motor.
ZZR1400.... Crude? Haha are you mental.
Was thinking the same thing. Saved me from watching the rest of the video....
Just a twat making a twattish comment.
It's a good looking bike but the zzr just walked it..."Yeshua / Jesus is the way "
Omegalul 300 meters
am I the only one or does this remind of you of Top Gear with some bad imitation of Jeremy Clarkson?