Finally. Now maybe this should end the debate. In Stock form you CANT beat a ZX14 In Modified form you CANT beat a Busa I myself perfer the ZX14 because that TCS has saved my life. I still want a Busa. Paint both bikes up in a black and green scheme.
I had a ZX14 for two years. It is big, heavy, cumbersome and not very agile, having a very long wheelbase. It is really not that responsive until you really get into the throttle because it is geared so high to attain a top speed of 190mph. Where are you going to go 190mph? It doesn't make sense for an around town motorcycle. A mid-size naked bike is more responsive up to 100mph, handles better and is more fun to ride, plus the maintenance is easier because you don't have to remove all the fairings to simply change the oil. Unless you are doing a lot of highway cruising or touring, I would recommend a Kawasaki Z900 or Yamaha MT09 naked bike. They are just as fast from 0 to 60mph, and the Z900 is faster than the ZX14 from 70mph to 100mph in high gear because it is geared lower and has a top speed of 150mph, which will get you in plenty of trouble on any highway. Another problem with the ZX14 is it is deceptively fast. With the Z900 or MT09, you know you are going pretty fast, but not as much with the ZX14. I just cranked mine on once getting on the highway and I didn't even think I was going that fast, and I got tagged by the Highway Patrol going 109mph. Whoops! 6 point ticket and $500 fine. It takes real self control not to exceed the speed limit with it, but on the other hand, that is the ONLY thing that is fun about it. It doesn't handle well, and it is cumbersome around town and at stoplights. Driving it at normal speeds is BORING because it seems like a 500cc motorcycle until you awaken the beast, and when you do that I assure you you are going to lose your license. I sold mine and I ride a Z900 now, which is actually a lot more fun and much better around town and in the mountain canyons. Unless you are an excellent rider, you can get yourself in a lot of trouble quick riding the twisties on a ZX14. I know!
109 mile an hour ticket LOL I'm in Connecticut I have a GSXR Hayabusa 2005 that's in my second gear people here in Connecticut are crazy drivers especially in the morning if you're doing 90 Rush Hour you get knocked off the road my Hayabusa and second gear I'm doing 110 I normally Drive 120 all the time you don't even realize it but I've drive it at night mostly when no one's around but I see your point I was looking at the Boulevard 109 boss thinking about getting that my Hayabusa my body starting to hurt forearms wrist neck back everything what do you think of that Boulevard 109 boss I've never been on it have you ever tried that would that be a nice bike what kind of mellowing out now. It's funny cuz it looks like the Hayabusa on steroids but I love the look the Retro look my brothers have the Honda Saber 1100 and I can't ride with them it's too uncomfortable my bike I can't ride it slow very difficult cuz it just wants to take off so that seems like a good middle bike for me what do you think or anything else in that class cuz I like power Cruisers I don't want something boring.
I agree, I also have 2021 zx14r in jacksonville, FL. difficult to ride at speed limit and boring, nice speed is at 110 MPH and beyond. Like you said its boring at low speeds...
Ive been trying to decide on another motorcycle and I'm torn between the hypersport touring bikes like the busa and zx14 and the mid middle to high range naked bike like the mto9 and z900. Thanks for sharing your input
Ive owned both 14r is more comfortable and faster at the drag strip in stock form 14r is an amazing strip/street bike 19,000 miles later on the 14r and it is still my favorite
why i can see owning one or the other but why would u own both so you got 2 fast bikes thats their one trick now i wanna see u ride it on a 1000 mile round trip with camping supplies and a friend on the back
Which one do you like better in Street configuration I have a 2005 GSXR Hayabusa with the high-rising bars still feels uncomfortable body still hurts on it how does your year feel Hayabusa and do you think the 1400 would keep me more upright cuz I was thinking about getting the zx1400
@@richardcerritelli9657 The ZX14R is more comfortable stock setup , my Gen 2 Busa has been modified to be more comfortable , lowered and forward peg rearsets ( this is key for big riders ) , and Gilles vario clipons with agras top yoke allow bar placement back and higher . A top triple with fat bars similar setup . My Busa is actually now more comfortable , now not much in it , both are similar level of comfort . Remember to ride , you sit in a Busa , and on a ZX14R . I am 6ft 4" and 130kg , and am sporting old injuries . Either are great to ride now , but stock untouched motor , my pumped gas 210whp 122ftlb ZX14R tuned ZX14R is perfect alround streetbike .
@@roadtoad1216 thanks for the reply I might keep my Busa but I want something else for cruising around with in a really comfortable position I was thinking about maybe like a power Cruiser a Suzuki Boulevard 109 boss I never been on it but it looks so cool like a busa on steroids I don't want a regular Cruiser I might be kind of bored on it but like a power Cruiser maybe the second bike I could have some low end torque V-Twin but does not much in that class that's the only problem have you been on the 109 or the rocket 3 that might be a little too much I don't want to spend $25,000 on a second bike
I have a 2022 ZX-14R and my best friend has a 2023 Hayabusa and what you say about the Hayabusa being easier to do maintenance on couldn't be more true, the big Suzuki is so much simpler than the Kawasaki, especially with the spark plugs....it's a nightmare on the ZX-14R. That being said, they're both awesome bikes and if the rumor mill is correct and Kawasaki actually decides to produce the ZX-15, hopefully they will make it much more maintenance friendly.
I own a 18’ 14r and love it. Both bikes are excellent but for me the difference is the comfort. The 14r is so comfortable. I can ride all day without any back or neck pain. The ergonomics is very good on the 14. Not so comfortable on the Busa. That’s just my take on it.
Would be really nice to see a nice riding comparison of ZX12R and Busa. Excellent video, learned a lot; had no idea the 'busa could take on so much pressure to the engine compared to the ZX14. Thanks Chris!
Kawi guy here. The busa is a much better looking bike also. With the exception of the pillion section. swap those two and do a little paint matching. Bangin! Like I said total Kawasaki fan boi here. Hayabusa Mer effer!!!!!!!!!!!!
Should have brought up what happens to busa when a chain breaks. They always tear up parts of the motor. Zx14s come with a metal chain guide that saves the cases etc.
@@wudntulike2no32 the ninjas come apart when they come off the ground at full rev and land , if you do this a few times you will throw valves , i blew two motors before kawi and me figured out what was happening, it doesn't take much, have the bike leaned over drifting the back tire hit a reflector and it comes of the ground . if you weigh over 300 lbs it only takes a few times, as long as i have traction control on low this doesn't happen, only when the back tire is spinning while drifting with the RPM at the top of the ladder when the tire comes off the ground it swings out the motor to 17k RPM then back to 10k RPM . and watch out, because it sounds like cannons firing and then nothing the motor is gone...i hated my first gen Busa because 2nd gear went in 2k i havn't gone back, i have been threw 1st gen and second gen ninjas, and the ride is just comparing apples to oranges, they are both fruit it ends there ai think,
One thing I will say I have a Hayabusa 2005 it is a pain in the ass to work on just taking the fearing off takes half an hour everything is a pain in the ass things are very tight fitting if you don't mind taking it to the dealer or have no life only your bike to worry about then you can work on it but if you take it to the dealer it doesn't matter what bike you get they both charge you a fortune for everything.
Ngl I been seeing so many busas for 3k here running. Less than a zx6r here, sucks because with a permit I'm limited to 650cc which is why I'm getting a zx6r
I've got 1999 busa,it's stored away,all stock. I also have my touring 2008zx14 turbocharged, also 2012 ZX14 has be known having 212 hp. After 2012 they went down in power. You made very good unbiased video on these two really. It's a fuxken nightmare removing sparkplugs from the 14!
i use my ZX14R as a daily driver and a drag bike (10 over swingarm), I need it to be reliable so it's the fastest stock motor bike I can run right now with a FANTASTIC stock clutch, however yes it is a pain in the ass to work on some components of it and i envy the Hayabusa's ease of access to the motor, however i just cannot get near the power i make on my ZX14R with a stock motor hayabusa
I had em all. Zx14,zx14r,hayabusa1299 and the busa 1340. I loved the 14 but the busa is a dog. Highway king. The rpms are always low and that top end never stop. Busa motor is tuff.
Had a busa until the mrs said it had gotten too fast...🤪.....sold it a few years ago and miss is everyday! Have a custom built badass HD powered chopper now that turns more heads than a naked lady but I miss my busa! In my opinion, the busa is much better looking!
Ive heard a bunch of these comparisons, some go one way some go the other. I'm a Kaw guy but never rode a 14. That said, I have rode a Busa and its an amazing machine! In the end I think brand loyalty will always influence a person one way or the other. Both are monsters for sure so cant go wrong either way! PEACE!!!!
I own a 14 and dude I’m be honest it amazing all the power with handling and comfort and still ride well, some people complain about the brakes, I think they do well. The 2019 is great machine all around. I’m a larger guy and the bike just does everything you need and it makes sense!
@@Chrissutter35 Yea to this day Ive never rode a 14 but would definitely jump at the chance lol. I do own a mint slightly moded 97 ZX11 that I absolutely love. Maybe one day I'll get a 14 but never part with the 11 lol. Glad yer happy with it brother. PEACE!!!!!
@@Chrissutter35 Hell man Id make the trip just fer that, and I haven't had a vacation in years! Its not exactly equal but Id gladly trade ya the key to the 2012 Harley Dyna Switchback I just baught lol. PEACE!!!!!
On my third 'Busa now 2013 model , nice ride to travel the country I live in, New Zealand. My buddy has a 2015 ZX14, that's a nice bike too. I prefer the 'Busa for the corners but the big Kawi is super creamy smooth . It feels very big compared to the Hayabusa though, very wide. I'll hang onto my 'Busa for now. Interesting how it has some sort of cult following , I even got a thumbs up from a police car last week. Made my day.
Did they fix the second gear crash issue on the second gen busa? crashing my second gear in 2,000 miles on my first gen busa pushed me to the zx14 even though the busa went 80k miles with out second gear having switched to the ninja it cost me $8,000 to rebuild my first gen zx14, i upgraded to zx14r after blowing up 2 gen one z14, and the second gen ninja is wow off of the show room floor, a 421 pipe with a tune its unbelievable what it does to a zx14r it will come off the ground at 130 mph under 40 degrees fahrenheit , i love the busa it is a fine bike, the zx14r and z14 were both busa killers, it cost 10x more to fix a zx14r /z14 than it is to fix a busa, and the busa i think is a more bullet proof set up. nothing is faster than a kawi though, i think you are 100% great video thank you. i would consider a gen 2 busa if they fixed the second gear with a factory under cut. for a daily driver, it still would be hard to give up a z14r daily driver, although the zx14r i have figured to cost around $3.75 a mile to ride daily if you ride like you are out running mark maques, every day to work, i love my z14r zx14r and first gen hayabusa, they all out ran helicopters.
I have had a zx and zxR for 14 years. Like busa as well. Would like a 99 model. Both great bikes. Prefer the ride position of the Busa. Prefered the zx14 in 2006 when i bought it as i prefered the gearing. True the zx14 is a pain to change plugs
buddhastaxi666 had a black 2006 zx14 man its was smooth and fast. Just bought a black 2019 busa. They are so similiar even 13 years apart. Should have kept my Kaw
@will smith Apart from in every single non biased test ever performed you mean? There is a good reason the 14r never took over the busa as top speed bike of choice. The H2 is starting to but the 14 never did.
I never sat on that bike how's the position is it comfortable I have a Hayabusa and a little too forward wrist knees back all her is that bike more comfortable
@@richardcerritelli9657 I own a 2022 ZX14R and a 2022 Hayabusa, the ZX14r is performance and comfort all in one, add the bar risers and it gets even more comfortable. I installed some one inch lowering pegs on my Busa and it has improved the comfort.
Ive owned both different years.....my 08 zx14(Smooth) is easier to ride but newer and lil faster then my on 02 busa ( both tuned , exhaust, nitrous setups....Cant take anything away from the Busa i loved it alot(more AGGRESSIVE fill) and more parts available for drag...but sold it....dont think i will sell my 14 ...tooo nice of a ride.. (comfort)on the street
Should go back some years and get a 2000 ninja zx12r and 2000 hayabusa. That was always that battle until the 12 went out of production. Loved my 2000 zx12r. Had all kinds of work done and beat a few busas but damn the busa is quick. Zx14 is no slouch either lol.
I really like the way you explain pros and cons from a mechanical point of view. Looking for a new project and now my choice is clear. Thanks for the review!
One more thing... even though I'm all about power and speed... I didn't hear you mention the handling or brakes at all. Which one do you think has the edge on those aspects?
you forgot the best thing and the worst thing about both bikes is were the swing arm bolts up to the frame on a zx 14 the positon of the bolt that connects the swing arm is in the wrong position its location is towards the front of the frame were all the torque is going and it is weak on a hyabusa its in the middle giving it more strength and im a zx 14 owner ive owned 2 of tthem and i love them
I know yall are probably busy as hell at the track but when the season comes, vlogs of what you can show maintaining the bikes in between rounds ,all the way up to staging would be badass.
Hi Jim from kc i sold my 08 busa last year super bike no complaints at all other than the Dunlop tires.after replacing with michelm tires it was much-needed improvement in handlin.a must do in my opinion.im buying a new kaw 1400 i cant wait to compare the 2 best super bikes in the world in my opinion thaks for reading this comment and always burn rubber not your soul
I own the same ZX14R SE .The color turns heads everywhere, and I love the power, ride,everything. Only mods,aftermarket exhaust, frame sliders, and smoked windscreen. I never liked the Hyabusa,looks,engine,nothing about it. You made a perfect choice,am going too subscribe to your channel just to see what you do too your 14RSE.
i am still a busa lover, dnt get me wrong,, if i had a budget and had to watch coin i would definatly go busa, i think the busa motor also will take more abuse, imo
69 year old rider. Watching you Dyno tune is a beautiful thing. Could you tell me what that costs. I have no idea. The package that includes adjusting fuel delivery and timing. Everything required that we may not be aware of. Including the tuning required after an exhaust upgrade.
One thing about work and basic basic maintenance for the 14 is that all the fluids and such like are simply right behind those slash panels instead of pulling the whole fairing panel
i had the chance to sit on both bikes at a dealer. i had trouble deciding between the two because i liked them both. i felt like i sat in the hayabusa. On the zx14, i felt like i sat on it. i really liked the look of the zx14. but i thought i would feel more comfortable on a hayabusa. i couldnt decide so i bought a cruiser instead.
So for you it would be the bike that I'm thinking of the one in the middle of both of those the Suzuki Boulevard 109 boss I have a higher booster love the zx1400 never thought about a power Cruiser but man I never thought I'd say this that 109 Boulevard boss is mean looking and torque monster fun as hell to ride and awesome looking and most importantly extremely comfortable compared to these two
I don't care what anyone says the the zx12r can still go toe to toe with both these bikes in stock form go ahead a sup it up and you have even more of a beast plus it looks better than both the busa and the 14r
Personal OPINION, I’m not ignorant towards either one. Still love the busas for their looks, but the 14 is just a lot more comfortable and better looking for me.
Busa easier to repair because you will need to repair them every friend of mine has had to do repairs to the engine most of these are stock but the guys who have had Ninja14 have not they are just super reliable and don't buzz your hands.
Tom Jones That's facts bro. My 2015 Zx-14R has done that twice, since I bought in brand new in 2016. That bike is a monster but has a weak oil pump and Kawasaki does not wanna fix it. I had to purchase this from Brock's to solve the issue.
From an aesthetic standpoint the Busa wins hands down. It's the one bike that has always kept the tail section fluid with the front. Not sure why manufacturers have gone with small/narrow tail sections that, at least to me, look out of place with the rest of the bike. Personally, I think that's the biggest flaw with the ZX14. I rode my buddy Tacos 12 ZX14 that was tuned by Brocks at 205 rwhp and it was amazing, but I couldn't get past the tail. And still can't. Anywho, I'm happy with my 02 Busa.
People tell me that I should get a busa instead of a gixxer guess cuz I'm a big ole boy 5'11 240 but I want that 2020 gixxer either white or black like your videos man good shit 👊🏿
Love that color on that 14R. That one and green on the 2018 model. Oh and that shiny black color on the 2012 model also. Sweet! Hate that they designed that 14R motor like that.
Kawi nation stand up💪🏿, I only said that because I get so tired of of hearing that shit from Suzuki fanboys 🤨. Fast is fast, get a grip🤨. I'm loyal 2 speed, not a brand. I give credit 2 Frankie S 4 making that Honda as fast as he does. I think those Suzuki 1000's bring it all day & if you race against 1 you better had put your big boy drawers on. I've beaten Suzuki 1,000 & Busa's but that was because I had a big lunch packed. I've lost 2 some also, it's the game. Win some, loose some. Do summin different on the exhaust on the 1,000 bruh. Personally I would go wit the Acrapovic on the 1,000 & Brocks on the 14. I hoped you went wit the black on the 1,000 because black dont crack, lol, & it always looks sexy, lol. Great videos as usual, looking forward 2 see what you come up with on both bikes. Thanks 4 at least being fair in the comparison 💪🏿💪🏿
That "new class" is where all the skills are made. Not the fastest of times or trap speeds, but using the hand clutch, foot shifting and SWB all show/prove what these bikes are made of off the showroom floor. My favorite class as a rider. PST still rules tho.
I own a 2015 Zx14r. Both bikes are really nice. It's really splitting hairs and comes down to personal preference I think. Plus and minuses on both in different areas. Either way you will be king of the road. But a new rider should test drive them to see what feels right to them. I'm a fan of riding one for a while and then trading for something else later.
Jim Berger It comes more down to rider skill with these bikes... stock the ZX14R is easier to get down the 1/4 mile due to longer wheelbase and more TQ but the GSXR1000 is just as powerful and much lighter so it could gap the 14R with a better power to weight ratio at higher speeds
I've owned both. Still have my 2016 ZX14R SE just like in this vid. Personally I like my ZX14R more than the 2008 Hayabusa SE, but either is still a hoot.
Without a doubt the 2012 ZX14 is dynoed at 212 hp @ rear wheel. From then on they have detuned them down. I've got 2008 zx14 turbocharged also 2012. Also 2017 H2.
Sticking with the zx14 and getting in front of it is totally different..out of box which is the fastest?🤨 Ricky gadson has proven that several times and I never seen anyone on a stock busa challenge him!!
I loved my ZX14 I bought when it was first released. Nice easy cruiser when you want to do just that. I am tall, 6'2" and could not get comfortable on the Busa. Sat on the ZX and my butt was sold! Put 45k miles in 3 years of riding. Sad when I sold it and moved to Poland. Miss that bike.
No one sees the facts what do you think of a company who has to add more ccs just to compete lol and had to put a supercharger on a bike just so their customers could feel like they are doing something lol I don’t hate kawi I just see their desperation lol and still can’t dominate races
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Finally. Now maybe this should end the debate.
In Stock form you CANT beat a ZX14
In Modified form you CANT beat a Busa
I myself perfer the ZX14 because that TCS has saved my life.
I still want a Busa. Paint both bikes up in a black and green scheme.
I had a ZX14 for two years. It is big, heavy, cumbersome and not very agile, having a very long wheelbase. It is really not that responsive until you really get into the throttle because it is geared so high to attain a top speed of 190mph. Where are you going to go 190mph? It doesn't make sense for an around town motorcycle. A mid-size naked bike is more responsive up to 100mph, handles better and is more fun to ride, plus the maintenance is easier because you don't have to remove all the fairings to simply change the oil. Unless you are doing a lot of highway cruising or touring, I would recommend a Kawasaki Z900 or Yamaha MT09 naked bike. They are just as fast from 0 to 60mph, and the Z900 is faster than the ZX14 from 70mph to 100mph in high gear because it is geared lower and has a top speed of 150mph, which will get you in plenty of trouble on any highway. Another problem with the ZX14 is it is deceptively fast. With the Z900 or MT09, you know you are going pretty fast, but not as much with the ZX14. I just cranked mine on once getting on the highway and I didn't even think I was going that fast, and I got tagged by the Highway Patrol going 109mph. Whoops! 6 point ticket and $500 fine. It takes real self control not to exceed the speed limit with it, but on the other hand, that is the ONLY thing that is fun about it. It doesn't handle well, and it is cumbersome around town and at stoplights. Driving it at normal speeds is BORING because it seems like a 500cc motorcycle until you awaken the beast, and when you do that I assure you you are going to lose your license. I sold mine and I ride a Z900 now, which is actually a lot more fun and much better around town and in the mountain canyons. Unless you are an excellent rider, you can get yourself in a lot of trouble quick riding the twisties on a ZX14. I know!
109 mile an hour ticket LOL I'm in Connecticut I have a GSXR Hayabusa 2005 that's in my second gear people here in Connecticut are crazy drivers especially in the morning if you're doing 90 Rush Hour you get knocked off the road my Hayabusa and second gear I'm doing 110 I normally Drive 120 all the time you don't even realize it but I've drive it at night mostly when no one's around but I see your point I was looking at the Boulevard 109 boss thinking about getting that my Hayabusa my body starting to hurt forearms wrist neck back everything what do you think of that Boulevard 109 boss I've never been on it have you ever tried that would that be a nice bike what kind of mellowing out now. It's funny cuz it looks like the Hayabusa on steroids but I love the look the Retro look my brothers have the Honda Saber 1100 and I can't ride with them it's too uncomfortable my bike I can't ride it slow very difficult cuz it just wants to take off so that seems like a good middle bike for me what do you think or anything else in that class cuz I like power Cruisers I don't want something boring.
I agree, I also have 2021 zx14r in jacksonville, FL. difficult to ride at speed limit and boring, nice speed is at 110 MPH and beyond. Like you said its boring at low speeds...
Ive been trying to decide on another motorcycle and I'm torn between the hypersport touring bikes like the busa and zx14 and the mid middle to high range naked bike like the mto9 and z900. Thanks for sharing your input
Ive owned both
14r is more comfortable and faster at the drag strip in stock form
14r is an amazing strip/street bike
19,000 miles later on the 14r and it is still my favorite
I own both 2012 Busa and 2013 ZX14R , both are my streetbikes , and are kick ass fun to ride .
why i can see owning one or the other but why would u own both so you got 2 fast bikes thats their one trick now i wanna see u ride it on a 1000 mile round trip with camping supplies and a friend on the back
@@crazyasswhiteboy3724 lmao , both bikes can be ridden where ever I like , but 1000 miles...never get time to tour mate .
Which one do you like better in Street configuration I have a 2005 GSXR Hayabusa with the high-rising bars still feels uncomfortable body still hurts on it how does your year feel Hayabusa and do you think the 1400 would keep me more upright cuz I was thinking about getting the zx1400
@@richardcerritelli9657 The ZX14R is more comfortable stock setup , my Gen 2 Busa has been modified to be more comfortable , lowered and forward peg rearsets ( this is key for big riders ) , and Gilles vario clipons with agras top yoke allow bar placement back and higher . A top triple with fat bars similar setup . My Busa is actually now more comfortable , now not much in it , both are similar level of comfort . Remember to ride , you sit in a Busa , and on a ZX14R . I am 6ft 4" and 130kg , and am sporting old injuries . Either are great to ride now , but stock untouched motor , my pumped gas 210whp 122ftlb ZX14R tuned ZX14R is perfect alround streetbike .
@@roadtoad1216 thanks for the reply I might keep my Busa but I want something else for cruising around with in a really comfortable position I was thinking about maybe like a power Cruiser a Suzuki Boulevard 109 boss I never been on it but it looks so cool like a busa on steroids I don't want a regular Cruiser I might be kind of bored on it but like a power Cruiser maybe the second bike I could have some low end torque V-Twin but does not much in that class that's the only problem have you been on the 109 or the rocket 3 that might be a little too much I don't want to spend $25,000 on a second bike
I have a 2022 ZX-14R and my best friend has a 2023 Hayabusa and what you say about the Hayabusa being easier to do maintenance on couldn't be more true, the big Suzuki is so much simpler than the Kawasaki, especially with the spark plugs....it's a nightmare on the ZX-14R. That being said, they're both awesome bikes and if the rumor mill is correct and Kawasaki actually decides to produce the ZX-15, hopefully they will make it much more maintenance friendly.
I own a 18’ 14r and love it. Both bikes are excellent but for me the difference is the comfort. The 14r is so comfortable. I can ride all day without any back or neck pain. The ergonomics is very good on the 14. Not so comfortable on the Busa. That’s just my take on it.
Would be really nice to see a nice riding comparison of ZX12R and Busa. Excellent video, learned a lot; had no idea the 'busa could take on so much pressure to the engine compared to the ZX14. Thanks Chris!
Kawi guy here. The busa is a much better looking bike also. With the exception of the pillion section. swap those two and do a little paint matching. Bangin! Like I said total Kawasaki fan boi here. Hayabusa Mer effer!!!!!!!!!!!!
Should have brought up what happens to busa when a chain breaks. They always tear up parts of the motor. Zx14s come with a metal chain guide that saves the cases etc.
Uber driver, Is there an aftermarket chain guide for the busa?
I snapped a chain on a busa and u are correct it took out everything. But then I bought the heavy duty chain
ZX14's weak oil pump cover helps blow the motor. He did not mention that either.
@@wudntulike2no32 the ninjas come apart when they come off the ground at full rev and land , if you do this a few times you will throw valves , i blew two motors before kawi and me figured out what was happening, it doesn't take much, have the bike leaned over drifting the back tire hit a reflector and it comes of the ground . if you weigh over 300 lbs it only takes a few times, as long as i have traction control on low this doesn't happen, only when the back tire is spinning while drifting with the RPM at the top of the ladder when the tire comes off the ground it swings out the motor to 17k RPM then back to 10k RPM . and watch out, because it sounds like cannons firing and then nothing the motor is gone...i hated my first gen Busa because 2nd gear went in 2k i havn't gone back, i have been threw 1st gen and second gen ninjas, and the ride is just comparing apples to oranges, they are both fruit it ends there ai think,
@@gvulakh i have heard this to it is a issue i will make sure i cover on my next nina buy,
Both nice bikes but Suzuki really made an incredible engine in that Busa
9 out of 10 top fuel drag bikes are Suzuki power
ZZR 1400 is a legend !💚🖤
Agree ❤️❤️❤️❤️
You said it best
Track=Busa
Street=Zx14r
90% of us are not REAL racers or MECHANICS soooo
Zx14r for me ✔
One thing I will say I have a Hayabusa 2005 it is a pain in the ass to work on just taking the fearing off takes half an hour everything is a pain in the ass things are very tight fitting if you don't mind taking it to the dealer or have no life only your bike to worry about then you can work on it but if you take it to the dealer it doesn't matter what bike you get they both charge you a fortune for everything.
I want to own a hayabusa so badly. That is my dream bike!
@Justin Voluck yes my first busa was more comfy for long rides than my ninja ,
U will..godspeed to u brother
Ngl I been seeing so many busas for 3k here running. Less than a zx6r here, sucks because with a permit I'm limited to 650cc which is why I'm getting a zx6r
if u see a guy my age on a hayabusa its not cool its a midlife crisis
Likewise….i can admit I don’t have the experience yet
Have a
2000 (blue/silver),
2006 (white limited)
Can't get rid of one. Love them both the same.
You can't go wrong with either bike! But to me, the Busa is more comfortable. Also, the Suzuki Busa engine is bullet proof!
I've got 1999 busa,it's stored away,all stock. I also have my touring 2008zx14 turbocharged, also 2012 ZX14 has be known having 212 hp. After 2012 they went down in power. You made very good unbiased video on these two really. It's a fuxken nightmare removing sparkplugs from the 14!
But the oil changes are easier lol on the ZX14 lol
i use my ZX14R as a daily driver and a drag bike (10 over swingarm), I need it to be reliable so it's the fastest stock motor bike I can run right now with a FANTASTIC stock clutch, however yes it is a pain in the ass to work on some components of it and i envy the Hayabusa's ease of access to the motor, however i just cannot get near the power i make on my ZX14R with a stock motor hayabusa
I had em all. Zx14,zx14r,hayabusa1299 and the busa 1340. I loved the 14 but the busa is a dog. Highway king. The rpms are always low and that top end never stop. Busa motor is tuff.
Had a busa until the mrs said it had gotten too fast...🤪.....sold it a few years ago and miss is everyday! Have a custom built badass HD powered chopper now that turns more heads than a naked lady but I miss my busa! In my opinion, the busa is much better looking!
Ive heard a bunch of these comparisons, some go one way some go the other. I'm a Kaw guy but never rode a 14. That said, I have rode a Busa and its an amazing machine! In the end I think brand loyalty will always influence a person one way or the other. Both are monsters for sure so cant go wrong either way! PEACE!!!!
I own a 14 and dude I’m be honest it amazing all the power with handling and comfort and still ride well, some people complain about the brakes, I think they do well. The 2019 is great machine all around. I’m a larger guy and the bike just does everything you need and it makes sense!
@@Chrissutter35 Yea to this day Ive never rode a 14 but would definitely jump at the chance lol. I do own a mint slightly moded 97 ZX11 that I absolutely love. Maybe one day I'll get a 14 but never part with the 11 lol. Glad yer happy with it brother. PEACE!!!!!
@@patrickhatrick6215 If you ever in the Pensacola/ Navarre/ panhandle Florida area! I’ll hand you my keys!
@@Chrissutter35 Hell man Id make the trip just fer that, and I haven't had a vacation in years! Its not exactly equal but Id gladly trade ya the key to the 2012 Harley Dyna Switchback I just baught lol. PEACE!!!!!
ZX14R.... simple.
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@Dio Black You better go to rehab for that issue ! 😁 Sounds pretty serious ! 🤣
I have owned 2 busa's and love em..
Hellyah same here got my streetbike and my dragbike i love my Busas and Suzuki in general!!
Only two? I've had 5 so far, and now looking for number 6....darn things are addictive.
I've owned 2 gsxrs. Never owned a busa but always loved them. Rode a couple of busas. Fast as Fuck!!!
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne gimme one
On my third 'Busa now 2013 model , nice ride to travel the country I live in, New Zealand. My buddy has a 2015 ZX14, that's a nice bike too. I prefer the 'Busa for the corners but the big Kawi is super creamy smooth . It feels very big compared to the Hayabusa though, very wide. I'll hang onto my 'Busa for now. Interesting how it has some sort of cult following , I even got a thumbs up from a police car last week. Made my day.
Did they fix the second gear crash issue on the second gen busa? crashing my second gear in 2,000 miles on my first gen busa pushed me to the zx14 even though the busa went 80k miles with out second gear having switched to the ninja it cost me $8,000 to rebuild my first gen zx14, i upgraded to zx14r after blowing up 2 gen one z14, and the second gen ninja is wow off of the show room floor, a 421 pipe with a tune its unbelievable what it does to a zx14r it will come off the ground at 130 mph under 40 degrees fahrenheit , i love the busa it is a fine bike, the zx14r and z14 were both busa killers, it cost 10x more to fix a zx14r /z14 than it is to fix a busa, and the busa i think is a more bullet proof set up. nothing is faster than a kawi though, i think you are 100% great video thank you. i would consider a gen 2 busa if they fixed the second gear with a factory under cut. for a daily driver, it still would be hard to give up a z14r daily driver, although the zx14r i have figured to cost around $3.75 a mile to ride daily if you ride like you are out running mark maques, every day to work, i love my z14r zx14r and first gen hayabusa, they all out ran helicopters.
iv owned stock busa loved it. wanted more power cheaper going stock ZX14R its got more power very happy wit it.
... you could have added a 50 shot of nitrous.
I have had a zx and zxR for 14 years. Like busa as well. Would like a 99 model. Both great bikes. Prefer the ride position of the Busa. Prefered the zx14 in 2006 when i bought it as i prefered the gearing. True the zx14 is a pain to change plugs
buddhastaxi666 had a black 2006 zx14 man its was smooth and fast. Just bought a black 2019 busa. They are so similiar even 13 years apart. Should have kept my Kaw
Zx12r was weird looking, but man that thing was a rocket ship back in the day.
Yes it was and is. Faster than the Busa in every head to head test before they were both restricted.
they still fast, even today
You missed frontal area and cda. Both reasons the much less powerful busa can stick with the 14r.
@will smith Apart from in every single non biased test ever performed you mean?
There is a good reason the 14r never took over the busa as top speed bike of choice. The H2 is starting to but the 14 never did.
What a great setup for a Hayabusa 250hp NA im trying time build one
Don't care how difficult the maintenance for ZX14R is, I still think it's the best bike I ever owned
I never sat on that bike how's the position is it comfortable I have a Hayabusa and a little too forward wrist knees back all her is that bike more comfortable
Both similar , both need lower pegs and higher bars to be an armchair!
@@richardcerritelli9657 I own a 2022 ZX14R and a 2022 Hayabusa, the ZX14r is performance and comfort all in one, add the bar risers and it gets even more comfortable. I installed some one inch lowering pegs on my Busa and it has improved the comfort.
Great Vid Chris once again. Both bikes are great bikes. Thanks for taking time to explain the difference between the two.
Ive owned both different years.....my 08 zx14(Smooth) is easier to ride but newer and lil faster then my on 02 busa ( both tuned , exhaust, nitrous setups....Cant take anything away from the Busa i loved it alot(more AGGRESSIVE fill) and more parts available for drag...but sold it....dont think i will sell my 14 ...tooo nice of a ride.. (comfort)on the street
Hahahah. Hayabusa and ZX14 videos always bring out the best comments.
Should go back some years and get a 2000 ninja zx12r and 2000 hayabusa. That was always that battle until the 12 went out of production. Loved my 2000 zx12r. Had all kinds of work done and beat a few busas but damn the busa is quick. Zx14 is no slouch either lol.
Definitely don't need a video to tell me which bike rules. Busa. Baby!
Or get on the track against a zx14r with your busa🤨
I really like the way you explain pros and cons from a mechanical point of view. Looking for a new project and now my choice is clear. Thanks for the review!
One more thing... even though I'm all about power and speed... I didn't hear you mention the handling or brakes at all. Which one do you think has the edge on those aspects?
you forgot the best thing and the worst thing about both bikes is were the swing arm bolts up to the frame on a zx 14 the positon of the bolt that connects the swing arm is in the wrong position its location is towards the front of the frame were all the torque is going and it is weak on a hyabusa its in the middle giving it more strength and im a zx 14 owner ive owned 2 of tthem and i love them
I know yall are probably busy as hell at the track but when the season comes, vlogs of what you can show maintaining the bikes in between rounds ,all the way up to staging would be badass.
Black on Black. Good pick! Nice to hear they're putting together a class for those of us with limited funds.
Hi Jim from kc i sold my 08 busa last year super bike no complaints at all other than the Dunlop tires.after replacing with michelm tires it was much-needed improvement in handlin.a must do in my opinion.im buying a new kaw 1400 i cant wait to compare the 2 best super bikes in the world in my opinion thaks for reading this comment and always burn rubber not your soul
Chris"$ words melt my ❤️ & soul .
Genuine statement , damn brah .
From , INDIA , SUZUKIAN .
THANKS ✍️
I own the same ZX14R SE .The color turns heads everywhere, and I love the power, ride,everything. Only mods,aftermarket exhaust, frame sliders, and smoked windscreen. I never liked the Hyabusa,looks,engine,nothing about it. You made a perfect choice,am going too subscribe to your channel just to see what you do too your 14RSE.
Hayabusa to the front! you a bad bad man Chris!
nah busa eater will eat my heart every time, once u go zx14r u never go back,
i am still a busa lover, dnt get me wrong,, if i had a budget and had to watch coin i would definatly go busa, i think the busa motor also will take more abuse, imo
I do like them both but always going with the Suzuki. Like you said very easy to maintain. For that 14 you can put some werkes exhaust on it.
Zx14 no doubt!!!!!!!
You have a comprehensive breakdown on the cylinder and head to block design. Wow! That was spot on dude. Well done! 🤙🏼
Loved my 05 black and red Busa!
69 year old rider. Watching you Dyno tune is a beautiful thing. Could you tell me what that costs. I have no idea. The package that includes adjusting fuel delivery and timing. Everything required that we may not be aware of. Including the tuning required after an exhaust upgrade.
One thing about work and basic basic maintenance for the 14 is that all the fluids and such like are simply right behind those slash panels instead of pulling the whole fairing panel
Chris
Can you talk about overgearing and undergearing for the Street vs the track?
i had the chance to sit on both bikes at a dealer. i had trouble deciding between the two because i liked them both. i felt like i sat in the hayabusa. On the zx14, i felt like i sat on it. i really liked the look of the zx14. but i thought i would feel more comfortable on a hayabusa. i couldnt decide so i bought a cruiser instead.
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So for you it would be the bike that I'm thinking of the one in the middle of both of those the Suzuki Boulevard 109 boss I have a higher booster love the zx1400 never thought about a power Cruiser but man I never thought I'd say this that 109 Boulevard boss is mean looking and torque monster fun as hell to ride and awesome looking and most importantly extremely comfortable compared to these two
I don't care what anyone says the the zx12r can still go toe to toe with both these bikes in stock form go ahead a sup it up and you have even more of a beast plus it looks better than both the busa and the 14r
Good choice for yer new "Super Sport" toy. My everyday street "Whoop-Ass" bike is a modded Beast of a ZX14 with huge BALLZ!
I had a 2012 busa and now on my 2nd 14. 14 is more comfortable, better looking, better torque.
Did you say the ZX14 is better looking than a busa?? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Not at all!
Personal OPINION, I’m not ignorant towards either one. Still love the busas for their looks, but the 14 is just a lot more comfortable and better looking for me.
@@busalove2013 zx14 looks way better imo
Busa easier to repair because you will need to repair them every friend of mine has had to do repairs to the engine most of these are stock but the guys who have had Ninja14 have not they are just super reliable and don't buzz your hands.
Should've spoke hiw the 14 spins bearings, and how the heads crack on big hp applications
Tom Jones That's facts bro. My 2015 Zx-14R has done that twice, since I bought in brand new in 2016. That bike is a monster but has a weak oil pump and Kawasaki does not wanna fix it. I had to purchase this from Brock's to solve the issue.
@@tracylangston7597 bro we had several 14rs in my area spin bearings.
I've had great time on my busakilla... ZX14R ...
Hell yea, SHITZUKI SUCKS!!!!!
@@ridintilldeath9484 My busa will eat any kawasucki
@@MrAnderson5157
It'll nibble nibble on the strip. Until y'all find a corner and the big kaw handles like it's "only" a liter bike.
Love the Busa, even if the ZX14 beats it in certain ways, I'd still choose the Busa
ZX14 R the busa killer
From an aesthetic standpoint the Busa wins hands down. It's the one bike that has always kept the tail section fluid with the front. Not sure why manufacturers have gone with small/narrow tail sections that, at least to me, look out of place with the rest of the bike. Personally, I think that's the biggest flaw with the ZX14. I rode my buddy Tacos 12 ZX14 that was tuned by Brocks at 205 rwhp and it was amazing, but I couldn't get past the tail. And still can't. Anywho, I'm happy with my 02 Busa.
People tell me that I should get a busa instead of a gixxer guess cuz I'm a big ole boy 5'11 240 but I want that 2020 gixxer either white or black like your videos man good shit 👊🏿
Love that color on that 14R. That one and green on the 2018 model. Oh and that shiny black color on the 2012 model also. Sweet! Hate that they designed that 14R motor like that.
That color ZX14R on the street is called Stealth Bomber😜
I have that version. All black
Bought a 2020 ZX14R a month ago....coming from a 600 Suzuki Katana. 😲😲😲😲 OMG!!!!
They should've put the supercharger for the H2 on the 14...Lol.
@@gurnblanston3210 Yep...everyone's first starter bike wasn't an H2R like you had.
The 14 must feel like you're on your couch in your living room compared to the 600 is it that much of a difference in Comfort no more chiropractors
Kawi nation stand up💪🏿, I only said that because I get so tired of of hearing that shit from Suzuki fanboys 🤨. Fast is fast, get a grip🤨. I'm loyal 2 speed, not a brand. I give credit 2 Frankie S 4 making that Honda as fast as he does. I think those Suzuki 1000's bring it all day & if you race against 1 you better had put your big boy drawers on. I've beaten Suzuki 1,000 & Busa's but that was because I had a big lunch packed. I've lost 2 some also, it's the game. Win some, loose some. Do summin different on the exhaust on the 1,000 bruh. Personally I would go wit the Acrapovic on the 1,000 & Brocks on the 14. I hoped you went wit the black on the 1,000 because black dont crack, lol, & it always looks sexy, lol. Great videos as usual, looking forward 2 see what you come up with on both bikes. Thanks 4 at least being fair in the comparison 💪🏿💪🏿
I've been on both and I thought the busa felt a whole lot heavier
Much love and respect to both of these beautiful machines on planet Earth... if I had to pick would be Hayabusa
That "new class" is where all the skills are made. Not the fastest of times or trap speeds, but using the hand clutch, foot shifting and SWB all show/prove what these bikes are made of off the showroom floor. My favorite class as a rider. PST still rules tho.
They are both fantastic bike, personally, I prefer the zxr design.
Hayabusa is a legend
@William Smith no,I mean is a legend.and is becoming a classic.
@William Smith it was 5 hours to be exact bill.have a nice weekend cheers
My 01 BUSA has been a excellent bike I would buy another one cheers
Just Subbed. Just cuz. (I just bought my brother's ZX14.We have been riding since childhood, so no worries).
I own a 2015 Zx14r. Both bikes are really nice. It's really splitting hairs and comes down to personal preference I think. Plus and minuses on both in different areas.
Either way you will be king of the road. But a new rider should test drive them to see what feels right to them. I'm a fan of riding one for a while and then trading for something else later.
What's the more comfortable one for you I have the Hayabusa but it's a little too forward and my back wrist forearms knees everything hurts now
I messaged Honda (and they responded) on Twitter, asking they why they completely abandoned the big superbike category.
That is a zx-14r not a ZX-14. Two slightly different motorcycles. The ZX-14 is 1352 cc while the zx-14r is 1441 cc.
What’s the ZX14r like compared to the GSXr 1000? I have a 14 as a daily rider and I want to buy a GSXr 1000
Ash ZX1400 still has a faster quarter mile and top end! The quickest fastest on the planet !
They are totally different. GSXR is gonna handle a million times better, but not be as comfy on the street.
Jim Berger
It comes more down to rider skill with these bikes... stock the ZX14R is easier to get down the 1/4 mile due to longer wheelbase and more TQ but the GSXR1000 is just as powerful and much lighter so it could gap the 14R with a better power to weight ratio at higher speeds
How much money do you spend on gas? I'm thinking about getting one of the new Busas as a daily rider in the future
Zx14 is by far the most comfortable bike I ever rode.
#BUSA
raceaddict321 #ZX14
05 le Busa
76,000 miles
My Gezer Glyde
I'm 61 yo
Mods include
TRE
Custom seat
1" risers
And alot of tlc
They are both bad ass bikes.
I love them 😍
I've owned both. Still have my 2016 ZX14R SE just like in this vid. Personally I like my ZX14R more than the 2008 Hayabusa SE, but either is still a hoot.
That actually saves a lot of time. I like that. I hear every word you say. Innovation.
Had both. Zx14 all day. All day.
Likes the busa,but choses the ZX14R nuff said. Team Green
Love bikes but to learn what you shared today was Awesome. Thanks
I still love the kaw...2000 zx12 baby
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I had 05 zx12. Wonderful bike with innovative new tech for the time. Have a '06 14 now.
800hp and only 400lbs is insane 🤯
The first gen busa has 175hp that 2019 has 200hp and the zx14 has 207hp.
No second gen busa puts 200hp to the rear even with full brocks exhaust and tune...ask how I know.
he is talking about the power made to the wheel, not the engine power
@Dio Black well I hope so with carpenter working on the engine???
Without a doubt the 2012 ZX14 is dynoed at 212 hp @ rear wheel. From then on they have detuned them down. I've got 2008 zx14 turbocharged also 2012. Also 2017 H2.
Wrong 2012 zx14 has 212 hp. They tune them down since.
They both are absolutely great bikes 😉 which one is the best ??
The spark plug change sucks on my ZX14R. My old Honda took about 3 minutes to change.
That Hyabusa is stock? I woulda never guessed from the sick looking pipes.
I really hope your channel blows up man! Great content from a chill dude
300hp wet on 06 zx14 reported at cody's. bone stock except shimmed clutch. But you are talking about the new ZX..
Great videos! I'm glad to see the super street class being started. I just hope it survives. Not many wanting to ride anymore.
Good choice.. N yes i. Have an had both bikes..busa is more practical to work on it .an perfome better
Hell yea bro good job on gaining subs! Good content as usual and I’ll be sHaring your content. Enjoyed it!
The busa is soooooooo smooth on the road
Still love my zx14r..sleeker, more,updated out of the box faster!
Sticking with the zx14 and getting in front of it is totally different..out of box which is the fastest?🤨 Ricky gadson has proven that several times and I never seen anyone on a stock busa challenge him!!
I loved my ZX14 I bought when it was first released. Nice easy cruiser when you want to do just that. I am tall, 6'2" and could not get comfortable on the Busa. Sat on the ZX and my butt was sold! Put 45k miles in 3 years of riding. Sad when I sold it and moved to Poland. Miss that bike.
Never seen a swing arm so fast out of the box that Alvin made an appearance.
Lol
I really wanted to hear about the swingarm. I was curious about the options you did or didn't add.
I have both. Stock zx14r is the winner. After market mods busa is the winner
No one sees the facts what do you think of a company who has to add more ccs just to compete lol and had to put a supercharger on a bike just so their customers could feel like they are doing something lol I don’t hate kawi I just see their desperation lol and still can’t dominate races
Its innovation not desperation, and I could dominate you on my 14 all day so chill buddy boy😎