Who is THE KING?? ZX14 or Hayabusa ANSWER INSIDE plus my New SURPRISE BIKE!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ธ.ค. 2019
- You guys have been asking for it..... Well here you go.
My professional opinion on which bike is better (ZX14 or the Busa)
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You can't go wrong with either bike! But to me, the Busa is more comfortable. Also, the Suzuki Busa engine is bullet proof!
Finally. Now maybe this should end the debate.
In Stock form you CANT beat a ZX14
In Modified form you CANT beat a Busa
I myself perfer the ZX14 because that TCS has saved my life.
I still want a Busa. Paint both bikes up in a black and green scheme.
Hahahah. Hayabusa and ZX14 videos always bring out the best comments.
ZZR 1400 is a legend !💚🖤
Agree ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Great Vid Chris once again. Both bikes are great bikes. Thanks for taking time to explain the difference between the two.
I own both 2012 Busa and 2013 ZX14R , both are my streetbikes , and are kick ass fun to ride .
why i can see owning one or the other but why would u own both so you got 2 fast bikes thats their one trick now i wanna see u ride it on a 1000 mile round trip with camping supplies and a friend on the back
@@crazyasswhiteboy3724 lmao , both bikes can be ridden where ever I like , but 1000 miles...never get time to tour mate .
Which one do you like better in Street configuration I have a 2005 GSXR Hayabusa with the high-rising bars still feels uncomfortable body still hurts on it how does your year feel Hayabusa and do you think the 1400 would keep me more upright cuz I was thinking about getting the zx1400
@@richardcerritelli9657 The ZX14R is more comfortable stock setup , my Gen 2 Busa has been modified to be more comfortable , lowered and forward peg rearsets ( this is key for big riders ) , and Gilles vario clipons with agras top yoke allow bar placement back and higher . A top triple with fat bars similar setup . My Busa is actually now more comfortable , now not much in it , both are similar level of comfort . Remember to ride , you sit in a Busa , and on a ZX14R . I am 6ft 4" and 130kg , and am sporting old injuries . Either are great to ride now , but stock untouched motor , my pumped gas 210whp 122ftlb ZX14R tuned ZX14R is perfect alround streetbike .
@@roadtoad1216 thanks for the reply I might keep my Busa but I want something else for cruising around with in a really comfortable position I was thinking about maybe like a power Cruiser a Suzuki Boulevard 109 boss I never been on it but it looks so cool like a busa on steroids I don't want a regular Cruiser I might be kind of bored on it but like a power Cruiser maybe the second bike I could have some low end torque V-Twin but does not much in that class that's the only problem have you been on the 109 or the rocket 3 that might be a little too much I don't want to spend $25,000 on a second bike
Would be really nice to see a nice riding comparison of ZX12R and Busa. Excellent video, learned a lot; had no idea the 'busa could take on so much pressure to the engine compared to the ZX14. Thanks Chris!
Hell yea bro good job on gaining subs! Good content as usual and I’ll be sHaring your content. Enjoyed it!
You have a comprehensive breakdown on the cylinder and head to block design. Wow! That was spot on dude. Well done! 🤙🏼
I own a 18’ 14r and love it. Both bikes are excellent but for me the difference is the comfort. The 14r is so comfortable. I can ride all day without any back or neck pain. The ergonomics is very good on the 14. Not so comfortable on the Busa. That’s just my take on it.
Have a
2000 (blue/silver),
2006 (white limited)
Can't get rid of one. Love them both the same.
What a great setup for a Hayabusa 250hp NA im trying time build one
I really like the way you explain pros and cons from a mechanical point of view. Looking for a new project and now my choice is clear. Thanks for the review!
Good video Chris waiting for some good weather to see how the 08 runs that I picked up from you ,thanks again
Chris
Can you talk about overgearing and undergearing for the Street vs the track?
I know yall are probably busy as hell at the track but when the season comes, vlogs of what you can show maintaining the bikes in between rounds ,all the way up to staging would be badass.
Should have brought up what happens to busa when a chain breaks. They always tear up parts of the motor. Zx14s come with a metal chain guide that saves the cases etc.
Uber driver, Is there an aftermarket chain guide for the busa?
I snapped a chain on a busa and u are correct it took out everything. But then I bought the heavy duty chain
ZX14's weak oil pump cover helps blow the motor. He did not mention that either.
@@wudntulike2no32 the ninjas come apart when they come off the ground at full rev and land , if you do this a few times you will throw valves , i blew two motors before kawi and me figured out what was happening, it doesn't take much, have the bike leaned over drifting the back tire hit a reflector and it comes of the ground . if you weigh over 300 lbs it only takes a few times, as long as i have traction control on low this doesn't happen, only when the back tire is spinning while drifting with the RPM at the top of the ladder when the tire comes off the ground it swings out the motor to 17k RPM then back to 10k RPM . and watch out, because it sounds like cannons firing and then nothing the motor is gone...i hated my first gen Busa because 2nd gear went in 2k i havn't gone back, i have been threw 1st gen and second gen ninjas, and the ride is just comparing apples to oranges, they are both fruit it ends there ai think,
@@gvulakh i have heard this to it is a issue i will make sure i cover on my next nina buy,
i use my ZX14R as a daily driver and a drag bike (10 over swingarm), I need it to be reliable so it's the fastest stock motor bike I can run right now with a FANTASTIC stock clutch, however yes it is a pain in the ass to work on some components of it and i envy the Hayabusa's ease of access to the motor, however i just cannot get near the power i make on my ZX14R with a stock motor hayabusa
Kawi guy here. The busa is a much better looking bike also. With the exception of the pillion section. swap those two and do a little paint matching. Bangin! Like I said total Kawasaki fan boi here. Hayabusa Mer effer!!!!!!!!!!!!
Black on Black. Good pick! Nice to hear they're putting together a class for those of us with limited funds.
Love bikes but to learn what you shared today was Awesome. Thanks
That actually saves a lot of time. I like that. I hear every word you say. Innovation.
Both nice bikes but Suzuki really made an incredible engine in that Busa
9 out of 10 top fuel drag bikes are Suzuki power
Two questions for you Chris first question what do you think the best quickshifter is for that year ZX14 I have the same one in green with quite a few mods looking for a quickshifter i was thinking about the hm due to they say thier set up kills it at the ignition side instead of the fuel like heel tech or other qs, is this really alot better?? And 2 what do u think a dependable street set up for that 14 is? I want alot of h.p. i mean who doesn't lol but also want dependability i cant be rebuilding mine or putting in a new motor every wknd like some of these guys.
Any feed back is greatly appreciated love your content btw.
I've got 1999 busa,it's stored away,all stock. I also have my touring 2008zx14 turbocharged, also 2012 ZX14 has be known having 212 hp. After 2012 they went down in power. You made very good unbiased video on these two really. It's a fuxken nightmare removing sparkplugs from the 14!
But the oil changes are easier lol on the ZX14 lol
Great video Chris! Also I'm loving your choice of bikes for the new SS class. 864 gonna wipe the floor in 2020!
Love that color on that 14R. That one and green on the 2018 model. Oh and that shiny black color on the 2012 model also. Sweet! Hate that they designed that 14R motor like that.
I had em all. Zx14,zx14r,hayabusa1299 and the busa 1340. I loved the 14 but the busa is a dog. Highway king. The rpms are always low and that top end never stop. Busa motor is tuff.
Loved my 05 black and red Busa!
You said it best
Track=Busa
Street=Zx14r
90% of us are not REAL racers or MECHANICS soooo
Zx14r for me ✔
One thing I will say I have a Hayabusa 2005 it is a pain in the ass to work on just taking the fearing off takes half an hour everything is a pain in the ass things are very tight fitting if you don't mind taking it to the dealer or have no life only your bike to worry about then you can work on it but if you take it to the dealer it doesn't matter what bike you get they both charge you a fortune for everything.
Chris"$ words melt my ❤️ & soul .
Genuine statement , damn brah .
From , INDIA , SUZUKIAN .
THANKS ✍️
thank you for sharing all the information
I want to own a hayabusa so badly. That is my dream bike!
@Justin Voluck yes my first busa was more comfy for long rides than my ninja ,
U will..godspeed to u brother
Ngl I been seeing so many busas for 3k here running. Less than a zx6r here, sucks because with a permit I'm limited to 650cc which is why I'm getting a zx6r
if u see a guy my age on a hayabusa its not cool its a midlife crisis
Likewise….i can admit I don’t have the experience yet
Zx12r was weird looking, but man that thing was a rocket ship back in the day.
Yes it was and is. Faster than the Busa in every head to head test before they were both restricted.
they still fast, even today
Ive heard a bunch of these comparisons, some go one way some go the other. I'm a Kaw guy but never rode a 14. That said, I have rode a Busa and its an amazing machine! In the end I think brand loyalty will always influence a person one way or the other. Both are monsters for sure so cant go wrong either way! PEACE!!!!
I own a 14 and dude I’m be honest it amazing all the power with handling and comfort and still ride well, some people complain about the brakes, I think they do well. The 2019 is great machine all around. I’m a larger guy and the bike just does everything you need and it makes sense!
@@Chrissutter35 Yea to this day Ive never rode a 14 but would definitely jump at the chance lol. I do own a mint slightly moded 97 ZX11 that I absolutely love. Maybe one day I'll get a 14 but never part with the 11 lol. Glad yer happy with it brother. PEACE!!!!!
@@patrickhatrick6215 If you ever in the Pensacola/ Navarre/ panhandle Florida area! I’ll hand you my keys!
@@Chrissutter35 Hell man Id make the trip just fer that, and I haven't had a vacation in years! Its not exactly equal but Id gladly trade ya the key to the 2012 Harley Dyna Switchback I just baught lol. PEACE!!!!!
What do y’all recommend for a heavy and tall rider? I ride a 2015 road glide now but want to get a sport bike as well and I’ve sat on both of these a while back and vaguely remember speed don’t really concern me just wanna be able to switch up
I do like them both but always going with the Suzuki. Like you said very easy to maintain. For that 14 you can put some werkes exhaust on it.
One more thing... even though I'm all about power and speed... I didn't hear you mention the handling or brakes at all. Which one do you think has the edge on those aspects?
That "new class" is where all the skills are made. Not the fastest of times or trap speeds, but using the hand clutch, foot shifting and SWB all show/prove what these bikes are made of off the showroom floor. My favorite class as a rider. PST still rules tho.
I have owned 2 busa's and love em..
Hellyah same here got my streetbike and my dragbike i love my Busas and Suzuki in general!!
Only two? I've had 5 so far, and now looking for number 6....darn things are addictive.
I've owned 2 gsxrs. Never owned a busa but always loved them. Rode a couple of busas. Fast as Fuck!!!
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne gimme one
On my third 'Busa now 2013 model , nice ride to travel the country I live in, New Zealand. My buddy has a 2015 ZX14, that's a nice bike too. I prefer the 'Busa for the corners but the big Kawi is super creamy smooth . It feels very big compared to the Hayabusa though, very wide. I'll hang onto my 'Busa for now. Interesting how it has some sort of cult following , I even got a thumbs up from a police car last week. Made my day.
Hi Jim from kc i sold my 08 busa last year super bike no complaints at all other than the Dunlop tires.after replacing with michelm tires it was much-needed improvement in handlin.a must do in my opinion.im buying a new kaw 1400 i cant wait to compare the 2 best super bikes in the world in my opinion thaks for reading this comment and always burn rubber not your soul
Did they fix the second gear crash issue on the second gen busa? crashing my second gear in 2,000 miles on my first gen busa pushed me to the zx14 even though the busa went 80k miles with out second gear having switched to the ninja it cost me $8,000 to rebuild my first gen zx14, i upgraded to zx14r after blowing up 2 gen one z14, and the second gen ninja is wow off of the show room floor, a 421 pipe with a tune its unbelievable what it does to a zx14r it will come off the ground at 130 mph under 40 degrees fahrenheit , i love the busa it is a fine bike, the zx14r and z14 were both busa killers, it cost 10x more to fix a zx14r /z14 than it is to fix a busa, and the busa i think is a more bullet proof set up. nothing is faster than a kawi though, i think you are 100% great video thank you. i would consider a gen 2 busa if they fixed the second gear with a factory under cut. for a daily driver, it still would be hard to give up a z14r daily driver, although the zx14r i have figured to cost around $3.75 a mile to ride daily if you ride like you are out running mark maques, every day to work, i love my z14r zx14r and first gen hayabusa, they all out ran helicopters.
One thing about work and basic basic maintenance for the 14 is that all the fluids and such like are simply right behind those slash panels instead of pulling the whole fairing panel
ZX14R.... simple.
😂😂😂😂
@Dio Black You better go to rehab for that issue ! 😁 Sounds pretty serious ! 🤣
iv owned stock busa loved it. wanted more power cheaper going stock ZX14R its got more power very happy wit it.
... you could have added a 50 shot of nitrous.
I really hope your channel blows up man! Great content from a chill dude
I really wanted to hear about the swingarm. I was curious about the options you did or didn't add.
Love your channel as let's say a Aussie lad until you said it's been a while since I rode a stock bike and I will see how i go as a brissie boy no flash gear just run the busa mile after mile flat out when I can would luv to run any of your bikes great work .
I don't care what anyone says the the zx12r can still go toe to toe with both these bikes in stock form go ahead a sup it up and you have even more of a beast plus it looks better than both the busa and the 14r
Zx12r!
800hp and only 400lbs is insane 🤯
Awesome content keep it coming please and thank you
They are both bad ass bikes.
I love them 😍
I've owned both. Still have my 2016 ZX14R SE just like in this vid. Personally I like my ZX14R more than the 2008 Hayabusa SE, but either is still a hoot.
Man I've never worked on the newer gsxr 1000 the lowering links look the ones I use to put on gsxr 600
I appreciate the comparison
Keep it up. Great video chris.
69 year old rider. Watching you Dyno tune is a beautiful thing. Could you tell me what that costs. I have no idea. The package that includes adjusting fuel delivery and timing. Everything required that we may not be aware of. Including the tuning required after an exhaust upgrade.
You missed frontal area and cda. Both reasons the much less powerful busa can stick with the 14r.
@will smith Apart from in every single non biased test ever performed you mean?
There is a good reason the 14r never took over the busa as top speed bike of choice. The H2 is starting to but the 14 never did.
The busa is soooooooo smooth on the road
you forgot the best thing and the worst thing about both bikes is were the swing arm bolts up to the frame on a zx 14 the positon of the bolt that connects the swing arm is in the wrong position its location is towards the front of the frame were all the torque is going and it is weak on a hyabusa its in the middle giving it more strength and im a zx 14 owner ive owned 2 of tthem and i love them
They both are absolutely great bikes 😉 which one is the best ??
Great Channel chris, great insight from the Track King himself.
Great videos! I'm glad to see the super street class being started. I just hope it survives. Not many wanting to ride anymore.
Appreciate the video want to see you get in the water box track day
I have had a zx and zxR for 14 years. Like busa as well. Would like a 99 model. Both great bikes. Prefer the ride position of the Busa. Prefered the zx14 in 2006 when i bought it as i prefered the gearing. True the zx14 is a pain to change plugs
buddhastaxi666 had a black 2006 zx14 man its was smooth and fast. Just bought a black 2019 busa. They are so similiar even 13 years apart. Should have kept my Kaw
Love your videos man
Should go back some years and get a 2000 ninja zx12r and 2000 hayabusa. That was always that battle until the 12 went out of production. Loved my 2000 zx12r. Had all kinds of work done and beat a few busas but damn the busa is quick. Zx14 is no slouch either lol.
Awesome info, thanks a lot 👍👍
Ive owned both
14r is more comfortable and faster at the drag strip in stock form
14r is an amazing strip/street bike
19,000 miles later on the 14r and it is still my favorite
Hayabusa to the front! you a bad bad man Chris!
nah busa eater will eat my heart every time, once u go zx14r u never go back,
i am still a busa lover, dnt get me wrong,, if i had a budget and had to watch coin i would definatly go busa, i think the busa motor also will take more abuse, imo
What sanction is going to run super stock and when are the rules coming out Chris?
My 01 BUSA has been a excellent bike I would buy another one cheers
I had a 2005 nitrous busa afterwards a 2009 all motor zx14. Now Im looking for at least a 2018/present, which one would anyone honestly suggest?
Good info on the maintenance.
Loved the 08 1340. Busa I had.
Good choice for yer new "Super Sport" toy. My everyday street "Whoop-Ass" bike is a modded Beast of a ZX14 with huge BALLZ!
Which bike is better cornering ?
Where’d you get 175 for the busa power? It got closer to 190
Zx14 no doubt!!!!!!!
Just Subbed. Just cuz. (I just bought my brother's ZX14.We have been riding since childhood, so no worries).
I've been on both and I thought the busa felt a whole lot heavier
That color ZX14R on the street is called Stealth Bomber😜
I have that version. All black
Kawi nation stand up💪🏿, I only said that because I get so tired of of hearing that shit from Suzuki fanboys 🤨. Fast is fast, get a grip🤨. I'm loyal 2 speed, not a brand. I give credit 2 Frankie S 4 making that Honda as fast as he does. I think those Suzuki 1000's bring it all day & if you race against 1 you better had put your big boy drawers on. I've beaten Suzuki 1,000 & Busa's but that was because I had a big lunch packed. I've lost 2 some also, it's the game. Win some, loose some. Do summin different on the exhaust on the 1,000 bruh. Personally I would go wit the Acrapovic on the 1,000 & Brocks on the 14. I hoped you went wit the black on the 1,000 because black dont crack, lol, & it always looks sexy, lol. Great videos as usual, looking forward 2 see what you come up with on both bikes. Thanks 4 at least being fair in the comparison 💪🏿💪🏿
Nice...zx14 to the fleet
Should've spoke hiw the 14 spins bearings, and how the heads crack on big hp applications
Tom Jones That's facts bro. My 2015 Zx-14R has done that twice, since I bought in brand new in 2016. That bike is a monster but has a weak oil pump and Kawasaki does not wanna fix it. I had to purchase this from Brock's to solve the issue.
@@tracylangston7597 bro we had several 14rs in my area spin bearings.
Listen to Chris! Man with experience!
Quick question, know anyone who can ECU flash a Honda CX500 Turbo?
Kawasaki ZZR 1400 is what I drive, love it ❤️
Busa is nice to
After you explayn the difriend from kawa too suzuki. I just keep the busa. I have 2 gen 2. And ofcorse i need try the gen 3 💪
Gixer on the Dyno, ready to roar. They're all good.
Chris are you going to run the bonestock 1000 at the strip? That would be sick im thinking youd go 9.40s easy man!
Had a busa until the mrs said it had gotten too fast...🤪.....sold it a few years ago and miss is everyday! Have a custom built badass HD powered chopper now that turns more heads than a naked lady but I miss my busa! In my opinion, the busa is much better looking!
Where can you get the rules on the supersport class? Thanks
That Hyabusa is stock? I woulda never guessed from the sick looking pipes.
People tell me that I should get a busa instead of a gixxer guess cuz I'm a big ole boy 5'11 240 but I want that 2020 gixxer either white or black like your videos man good shit 👊🏿
Bro I can send you a box cutter!! Love the channel
How can I bypass restrictions on 02 hayabusa
Ive owned both different years.....my 08 zx14(Smooth) is easier to ride but newer and lil faster then my on 02 busa ( both tuned , exhaust, nitrous setups....Cant take anything away from the Busa i loved it alot(more AGGRESSIVE fill) and more parts available for drag...but sold it....dont think i will sell my 14 ...tooo nice of a ride.. (comfort)on the street
My 2013 hayabusa has 197hp from factory, I didnt know the 2019 had less hp? Even if I google it, it says 2019 has 197hp aswell. Where did you get your hp figures from?
AMAZING BIKES FANTASTIC MAGICAL EXELENT BUT I LOVE HAYABUSA I LOVE IT