The Video That Ignited an Anti-Woke vs SJW War
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Last night on Destiny ft. Turkey Tom on the Noah Samsen, think before you sleep and illymation drama...
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I have to disagree with the food point here. There are bad and good foods
And insulin spikes lead to cellular inflammation and faster cell death and degeneration
You, Tom, Aba and Dan all need to be on an episode of Bridges. Have a list of subjects and some constraints on time. The flow of ideas would be awesome.
13:00 But the cope is exactly what keeps people from trying to lose weight.
Peterson never argued even implicitly that men and women can't work in the same workplace together. I don't get how Destiny derived that from that debate. I've seen it and the point was that we won't be able to completely do away with these conflicts. Not that women should not work together with men.
Turkey Tom’s the type of guy to walk into Destiny’s apartment and exclaim “The party has arrived!!!”
Then hold up 2 liters of Mt dew, before raising one to his lips and go "glug glug glug"
And he’d be spitting.
"Let's get the party going on in this party wagon!"
“I guess they just let anybody in this place”
“The man, the myth, the legend, Steve!”
Destiny didn’t care about this when Tom first tried to talk to him about it, so Tom just showed up at his apartment and forced him to talk about it lmfaooooo
Tom is the kind of guy who just showed up at his apartment and forced him to talk about it lmfaooooo
Tom's the kinda guy to say, "working hard or hardly working?" at the water cooler
He cool like dat
Noah Samsen using childhood pictures as a shield is mad weird lol
Fuckin A
He's cute a kid and hot as well. I wish Destiny and him would fk
How is he using them as a shield?
Not that I’m siding with Noah here but what does that got to do with anything??
@@NoghaStar because people can shit on you for your appearance but if you use a childhood photo not only is it a kid's appearance they're attacking, but it's also an outdated and inaccurate representation of what you look like currently
"Raping people is bad."
Noah Sampson: "First of all, that argument is only a moral one..."
What
@@kuggacouragegx6093it's a quote that Noah said
Well if you dont believe in objective morality then yeah it kind of is, definitely not something you should have like a strong stance on lmao
@NixViche rephrase what you said. It sounds like your saying that having a strong stance on r#pe like the act of such is wrong isn't something one should hold strong torwards
That strawmen argument is cringe.
Noah Samsen having almost 500k subscribers is... something..
Kahmal’s worst nightmare 😂
And think before you sleep 800k
@@noahgibson-baker3200 Noah Samsen’s worst nightmare
Something to think about before you sleep.
Its encouraging. If he can be successful so can I.
Noah Sampson should be a lawyer the way he tiptoes around words lmao
better call sallpson goodman
as a lawyer, no, he would be terrible, he is sneaky, but his arguments are easy to pierce through.
@@reptile_lokihe’s the type of lawyer to get fired after trying to get a “slam dunk” in court and failing because he doesn’t realize that the jury isn’t an echo chamber like his channel and they will listen to the prosecutor right after Noah
@@reptile_loki As a law student who's about to give the bar exam in a year, I disagree. He's basically a free win for the competent ones 💀
bro really tried to have a "chocolate is BAD for you" debate against someone who chugs multiple cans of red bull on the daily
Toms argument is so dumb to. I can eat only the healthiest of foods and still be unhealthy. There’s always something “healthier”. Fuck that salad dressing, eating it raw is better. Fuck that chicken thigh, chicken breast is better. Don’t put teriyaki sauce on that chicken breast might as well just drink sugar water.
chocolate especially high cacao % is actually a healthy food lol
@@ItsBradford I mean yeah, eating healthy comes down to the exact ingredients you are ingesting. I don't exactly believe you when you say you eat healthy and were still unhealthy. Were you exercising as well? Drinking Water? Eating healthy isn't some complex puzzle.
@@ItsBradfordthe likelyhood of you eating the healthiest of foods and being unhealthy are vastly inferior to that same likelihood when you eat unhealthy foods. Tom's argument wasn't stupid you're just an idiot.
@@inevitablextdark chocolate is healthy. Not regular chocolate that has had all the benefits processed out of it. Nice try
Just a reminder that Noah is friends with and has affiliated with Badempanada, a guy who doxxed some guy who made fun of him on Twitter for basically no reason, and has threatened to dox or sue individuals like Drew Pavalou for no other reason than not liking them.
In a way, he’s the Breadtube communities Cyraxx, with him also having accusations of having illegal content on his devices to his name, which I must emphasise are allegations. Anyways, Noah streamed with this guy recently.
Just thought I should say it again.
Isn't BadEmpanada also a tankie who says Holodomor wasn't a genocide and shit?
@@TheKvltPantShateryup
@@DjDeadpig yeah. The guy also has blocked me in Twitter.
if he's breadtube cyraxx then who's Marty
Good to know he's okay with absolute scum as long as they're ideologically similar. What a coward
Can't wait to spend 2 hours learning about dumb drama where probably both sides are bad and none of it matters
My thought exactly. Pure brain rot
I knew this was going to happen the second destiny started hanging out with turkey Tom
Honestly I think TYBS's side is good in this case. He actually had a lot of good weight loss advice in the video and some unique takes that aren't necessarily the usual left/right dynamics you can get in other places. Although it is true that he can be reductive with certain political takes.
@@tehy123 after finishing watching I think both sides had good points, spoke past each other and overreacted somewhat, though I do think the cartoon lady came off the worse of the two, Noah remains an absolute dipshit in either case
wtf I scrolled ahead toward the end of the video and they’re still talking about the same thing over and over it seems like.
Not a huge fan of Tom or TBYS, but anyone sh.itting on Noah is a-okay. He's insufferable.
I like tom well enough but yeah TBYS is such a jackass
Literally no reason to even make the first video at all, foolish as ilymation was she literally was just minding her own business whrn TBYS saw it and just couldn't abide that
But it led to people taking fat shits on noah so that's good
Why don't you like TBYS? I recently learned about him. His videos are very well made
@@Horzinicla
Probably it's not his type of content, not everyone is into that stuff y'know.
@@Horziniclatbys makes sleeper content with a nerd voice, tom is way better as he is a real poopmaxxer
I agree, both are mind-numbing to watch (In my opinion more TBYS) but frankly I’d rather steer clear of both.
Destiny starting to make ACTUAL friends, proud of him.
Like Sneako… wait.
It won't last
He’s got Aba
Hmmm...maybe you’re new to Destiny, but he’s been friends with Mouton and Dan for years if not a decade at this point. Then of course there’s Aba. But you’re right, it’s nice to see Tom appearing in more of Gnomey’s videos!
He got the Boyscast boys, even though their whole audience seems to be against him now
Noah Samsen playing the milky white unironic mustachioed knight as always
he is a squire at best
Noah Samsen is literally definition of breadtuber. The hypocrisy, double standards, twisting words, "bad faith" and responding with parts that he can defend while completely avoiding the ones he have nothing to say about because he know the other side is right.... I hate those spineless cowards.
Perfectly put breadtube starter pack there mate
Quintessential is the word
Losing weight as a petite woman sucked so bad. It took me over a year of eating 1200ish calories to get from 140 back to 110. The biggest thing is being extremely consistent and count your calories accurately
❤ Congrats that’s a huge goal accomplished! My advice for petite girls is to fast 1-2 days per week & eat regular the rest of the time. It’s called 5/2 diet & is much easier than 1200 kcal everyday, plus it’s better for your hormones. You don’t eat nothing on fast days- you can still have a few hundred kcal like broth soup, protein shake, greens, etc.
Also, the effect of sleep cannot be overstated. If you get more sleep, drink more water, avoid alcohol & soda, you should be able to lose. But yeah, I’m 5’5” & 118lbs & I feel like 5-10lbs on me is super noticeable.
@scarletsletter4466 thank you!! Yeah, totally. I'm 5'2 and even the difference between 110 and 115 is big for me.
It's also eaiser if you count calories by the week instead of the day, so the same idea essentially. Honestly, switching to sugar-free drinks was the biggest factor in my weight loss. I was drinking way too many energy drinks, cokes, gatorade, etc. It's so easy to drink your calories and obviously not feel full from it
Hey, don't wanna comment where I'm unwelcome, but I have a lot of experience with weight loss myself (240lbs to 165lbs). 1200 calories is likely way too low for u, unless u happen to be extremely sedentary or super short. The reason u had to eat such little calories to keep losing weight is likely cuz u tanked Ur metabolism. If u ever r looking to lost weight again in the event u gain back the weight, I'd recommend implementing calorie deficit breaks (aka diet breaks, refeeds, reverse dieting). For example, if someone is 200lbs with a maintenance level of 2500 calories, go on a 500 cal per week deficit (max), and after u plateu at say 180lbs and 1900 calories, instead of cutting Ur cals more, increase Ur calories back up to say 2100 for a month or so. U won't rly gain back any fat (maybe just some water weight), but u wld ramp up Ur metabolism again so u don't tank it. After doing this "refeed" for about a month, drop back down to 1900 calories and u will start losing fat again without dropping Ur calories down so low.
@aktube9084 yeah that's just not true. My resting metabolic rate is 1300-1400 max when not super active. My metabolism is great, but weight loss is slow for petite women.
W
tom's hair grows fast
Why do you think destiny invited him over? Hes going to steal toms
stem cells to fix his beard patch
That's a microaggression
@@thecovfefe340 evil doctor steven bout to strap tom into an operating table and experiment on his body 💀 his gonna take ton pubic and ass hair and use to create facial hair.
@@GrrFromGrrlandyou calling out a micro aggression is a micro aggression
I have the same issue, and similar hair to Thomas. It grows super quickly and gets thick so I really don’t have a choice but to go get it cut every 2 weeks on the dot or else it starts to get out of control
I love Noah Samsen logic!
Saying Think Before You Sleep's video caused someone to get doxxed = fine
Saying Illymation's video will cause people to eat themselves into an early grave = mass murder accusation
Think Before You Sleep said that Noah Samsen 'accused him of attempted murder.' Where's the logic in that?
@@stetsoncrobisonWhen did that happen?
@@stetsoncrobison if you've watched the video AND read my comment and still don't know, I can't help you. Your lips will remain glued and immutable, completely incapable of allowing you to drink the water that I would otherwise lead you to.
It is a mass murder accusation and TBYS’s video did lead to illy getting doxxed. Like instead of trying to make some vacuous appeal to hypocrisy, you could just engage with the individual points on their own merit. Does TBYS have some responsibility for the doxxing if his video is what inspired it? Does he have more responsibility if his video misrepresented her views? Is saying that people shouldn’t be moralizing food going to lead to mass child death? And can one of these extrapolations be true while the other is false?
@@behindtheveilofignorance Did he say children would eat themselves to death? I'm fairly certain that's a lie since it sounds stupid. Or did he say children would develop terrible eating habits and die faster as they grow older?
You've lost any semblance of credibility if you actually believe TBYS caused the doxxing. If I criticized walmart as being a terrible store that ruins mom and pop shops but said nothing else and a random person tries to blow it up then you'd claim I inspired the act and bare responsibility. Which is insane. If someone did not call for violence but violence happens anyway than you can't claim it's that person's fault especially when they said don't do anything. He also didn't misrepresent her. People here just disagree and think that equals out to lying about what she said. It will definitely become more of a problem and lead to a rise of child deaths but it won't be a massive movement. We already have more obesity in children then ever before.
Tom and destiny were holding hands for most of the vid it’s just hard to see
aww
“Who’s eating a pound of broccoli?”
Literally me 🗿
Based
Why stop at one? Broccoli when seasoned right is amazing 👏
Literally me too
Broccoli is delicious, can't lie
I eat raw Cauliflower.
People think I might be a serial killer.
I'm glad Tiny rebounded from Melina so fast and found a far better partner.
Saaame they’re so sweet I want them to move in together ❤😂
I want Tom to post a picture of his fat butt wrapped around some Matt Watson looking mf announcing his and destiny’s divorce
I’m just glad he’s finally in a straight relationship. Lesbians always break up.
Awwwwwwe
I love not being able to see half the content that's directly relevant to whats being spoken about because of chat taking up half the screen.
Why would you love that? It’s annoying
Real.
@eeyun5279 Op is being sarcastic btw
Go watch the videos yourself then
Are you upset you didn't get to see Tom's arms?
Tom and Destiny have definitely explored each other's bodies
It started with a kiss how did it end up like this
It all started with the Tom and Destiny alliance.
And than the Vaush nation attacked…
@@HistoricaHungaricaAided by Noah Nation
The Last Alliance of Boy and Man.
Destiny is complete right that simple carb foods aren't necessarily bad for you. If you're exercising and have depleted all of the sugar in your bloodstream, your body needs energy and the fastest way to get it from simple carbs, such as chocolate or bread. The problem arises when you eat these simple carbs in excess, as they spike your blood sugar and get stored as fat long term.
problem is the entire globe survives on wheat. because it's easy to feed the world with it.
@@howdareyou41yeah but there’s shitty US white bread which is essentially candy and multigrain breads which contains carbs along with micronutrients. Levels to it
@@axelbreier4207everyone goes fuckin on and on about micronutrients. Not every food HAS to be a treasure trove of micros. Eating a single serving of meat, fruits and vegetables a day will give you all of the micros you need to survive. You can improve your levels by micromanaging the trace nutrients in every food, or just take a multi, or just not worry about it (you won’t notice).
The real reason multigrain bread is better is because it gives you a significantly larger dose of dietary fiber, which is essentially the brakes for absorption of sugar from carbs. It also tends to have much less sugar in the first place.
Everything metabolism and weight loss-related is just 1. Overall calories, 2. Rate of absorption of those calories to blood sugar
That’s some cool cope. I’ll remember to watch out for powerlifters eating a Hershey sandwhich the next time I’m at the gym.
@@W333Lu could survive off farts and creek water you’d just be shitting your guts out the while. Just because you can survive on a Food doesn’t mean if you try and live that way you won’t be an obese piece of sh..
“If you’ve been working out for three months and nothings changed-“
Brooo remember when we had months and months of Destiny talking about his lifts lmao
10k to break a lease is 100% bullshit. Ive done it before when relocating for work. You just pay an early termination fee. I would assume those can vary but typically they are the cost of a month of rent. No lawyer required and if you paid $10k for a lawyer for no reason thats on you
Listen it depends on the market & the type of lease you have. In very tight housing markets there’s no such thing as terminating a lease, you just pay it out or lose your 2mo security deposit + fee. In NYC & SF that can easily cost $10k depending on your building
In my experience you usually will lose your security deposit for breaking a lease early. If she's paying 10k per month on rent and there's a 1 month deposit then you'd lose 10k by breaking the lease. How it get described as "legal fees" sounds more bullshit though.
@@krombopulos_michael shes paying 120k a year on rent?
@@krombopulos_michaelno way she’s paying 10k a month
She does not make that much money
100% depends on the lease. I've seen a number of complexes where you're expected to pay the remaining months of rent for breaking the lease early.
destiny has never encoutered fat acceptance groups...
Because most of them are already 💀 lol
I'm not going to lie, I haven't either... It really makes me think that is a crazy online thing, but I don't know.
😂 right!? I want a HAES arc now
@@jenispizz2556 Well he's online all the time..
@@jenispizz2556it is. These people don’t exist in real life. Most fat people are pretty unhappy about being fat…
13:43 in all fairness most of illymations fanbase are impressionable children who will take what their fav TH-camr says at face value
No
@@kuggacouragegx6093 ya
@@kuggacouragegx6093 Found an impressionable child
I appreciate when Destiny equally shits on all sides of an argument.
it’s unproductive and brings the absolute worst out of people ala his own sub.
@@iamnotthatguy7166 maybe I'm viewing this in bad faith but are U suggesting blindly agreeing with one side would be better?
If that's a fair thing to do, sure. Otherwise it's just pointless devil's advocacy
@@tonymacaroni955 What we're saying is that agreeing with the right side would be better.
You know, the one who was doxxed for no reason.
@@chapdave5146she definitely shouldn't have been doxxed, but is mass flagging/mass reporting any better? As a creator you should be able to take criticism. Yea, illy could've made a direct reply to TBYS's video on how he misrepresented her, but she literally told her followers to mass flag him. On the other hand, TBYS didn't ever say "dox illy because she's trying to deplatform me" he just pointed out that she was, Infact, trying to deplatform him.
I was trying to lose 30 pounds last year. I hate lifting weights its so boring for me. So I was playing vr with 28 pounds of body weights and even on a 1800 cal. Diet. I ate whatever i wanted though.
So if i ate 1800cals of donuts id be screwed for that day. Took alittle over 4 months to lose it. Now all i do is maintain my weight. But i immediately went with grams over cals. 200g of Chicken is 240 Cal's while 100g beef is 280. Its all a numbers game people. Figured out what you can eat more of and pig out! Just make sure its tangible. sweet things dissolve into Nothing. filling no space in your tummy
Calories are not created equally as well. Yor body treats carbs different from fat and protein for example.
I did something similar. But I was doing 1500 calories a day, and lost 68 pounds last year.
I don't understand how people can find deadlifting, squatting and benching boring but whatever
@@roguis3451 to be fair building muscles dont directly help you loose weight
I love it tho
@@roguis3451 im sure people who prefer to run might have the same option as i do. But honestly though good for you! Be healthy, thats all im getting at
I agree with Think Before You Sleep more than Noah Samsen, but his voice is probably one of the worst insufferable redditor voices I've ever heard...
Yeah he himself admits thats his voice sucks. His voice on his livestreams is way better. He basically says that he does so many takes when recording for videos that his voice is dead
@@hahafunnyman-on5rq actual voicecel, he has my solidarity...
The only thing I remember about him is he made video about women not being able to take accountability or give up too easily or something and he used an anecdote about how he made a 3 stock comeback on elite smash in smash ultimate to show how he was different
@@FlappyCat-ef6oq LMAO That's pretty autistic
Ik right he sounds like the embodiment of ☝️🤓 which brings him pretty significantly down, especially considering he gives people constructive criticism about improving their image
The reason Noah uses pics of himself as a kid is because his entire brand is to be the ultimate “safe boy feminist” so he has to make himself seem as disarming as possible to appeal to people who are in to that. He's basically hiding his masculinity. It’s pretty creepy tbh and feels like an act.
The sleep guy sounds like destiny if AI.
He sounds like destiny but much further along the spectrum
@@ShlippiesIf Destiny is Goku he’s Broly
@@LeLastMelon Autism is just power scaling
@brokencreationlordmegatrol3037 It's like the different Super Saiyan Grades that increase your power but if you go too far you're too slow
After 48 hours of research on WikiPedia I have concluded that Destiny is a girl's name.
You're brave indeed.
I've decided that dgg'rs who like this joke are 80iq and the people that type it aren't human.
*WikiApedia
-Norman Shrinklepeen
After 30 seconds of WikiPedia research, I came to the conclusion that "Destiny" is a primarily feminine given name meaning "destiny, fate", which is ultimately derived from the Late Latin word "destinata". Commonly used spelling variants include Destinee, Destiney, and Destinie.
My go to explanation for "no food is bad" is "Too much of anything is a bad thing"
What I got from this discourse is:
A) all food is food
B) some food is bad
C) therefore all food is bad
D) therefore everyone should stop eating
“Smoking crack isn’t BAD for you. You just have to be aware of your consumption and use.”
@neetpride5919 I think you're joking, but C doesn't follow from A and B - that's called a fallacy of composition. I'll give you an example:
1. All cars are cars
2. Some cars are mustangs
false C: all cars are mustangs.
Correct C: all mustangs are cars.
Your correct C would be bad foods are food. Which is true.
@@neetpride5919based
@@nathaniel8854 _"When my friends and I were done with soccer practice: my mother would drive us to McDonald's and inject heroin into our veins."_
This is why your analogy doesn't work.
Most "two idiots fighting" type drama of 2024
The talk about how no food is bad for you is anorexia recovery talk and mindset. Maybe she had an ED in the past.
With what she's focusing on in the beginning of her video I would agree with you.
she was never anorexic, she was just fat and tried diets that didn't worked and her therapists put in her head the idea that if the diets don't work it's not because of her fault, it's because her body is unable to lose any fat (which is objectively wrong).
@@paulogaspar8295excessive dieting is indicative of EDs & disordered eating. No one said anything specifically about her having anorexia, which is one eating disorder out of multiple.
Indeed she was , that's kind of the point of the video .
Most people here didnt watch obviously , neither did turkey tom
Shes trans? 👀
Petition to make Tom the lead orbiter for the rest of this years cycle
And than in the new year Tom goes the Mr Girl arc.
@@HistoricaHungaricadon’t disrespect Turkey like that buddy
@@HistoricaHungarica Please, Tom is on Destiny's good side now, but low-key brain dead. I would love for the tables to turn
nah, he’s pretty dumb and surprisingly immature. imean, i like him just fine, but he’s a child
@@saheerumar2443 I mean, yeah. He’s 20. I would love some laid back goofs rather than whatever the fuck last years orbiters turned in to.
Ultra processed stuff like chocolate and soda is really helpful in the midst of something like a marathon or a really long hike. Your body can digest it so fast and you can get energy from the calories right away.
Exactly. I know day hikers who bring only chocolate with them
@@angelmartin7310 drinking soda during a marathon is wild
@@lil_230soda yes, but what do you think the gels people use for distance events are made of? Pretty much insanely fast absorbing carbs; sugars…
Exceptions prove the rule lol. Meth was great for keeping the troops going in the somme too
Most people aren’t eating junk food in that context, though. Most people are snacking on that stuff and then sitting down for half the day at work or school.
Noah is using debate pervertry tactics by flashing his childhood pictures at the audience
😂😂😂😂
lmfao
His childhood pics r a tactic to win the debate by any cost, regardless of truth or curiosity?
I think the pics r annoying but aren't "debate pervertry" by either the definition on Destiny Reddit or Urban Dictionary.
Thus, what do u mean by "debate pervertry"?
@@_eNoxious_ The pics are weird and borderline perverse.
And it's in the content of a debate.
@@chrissant6277 They r being used in a weird way. I agree.
But how r they borderline perverse? And by "perverse" do u mean it in its basic sense of "morally incorrect", or in a more loaded sense?
I love Destiny's disdain for Noah 😂😂
You actually can lose weight very quickly, but I don’t recommend it. Just don’t eat. I limited myself to one small meal every second day and I lost 60kg in around 6 months this way. The short term downsides were the obvious discomfort of being hungry all the time, the lack of energy, and the pain caused by muscular atrophy. I also bruised very easily during that time. The long term downsides, though, were the kidney pain that never went away the heart arrhythmia I developed. Oh, and you don’t learn any new dietary habits, so you gain the weight back eventually.
This sounds absolutely horrifying, especially the long term kidney pain
This is a shit ass way of loosing weight. Dieting and cardio is still way better
bait...
That’s what I did literally starved myself, and moved from 83kg to 64kg (I am like 170cm). Can’t eat pig portions anymore, but rather this then being shamed non stop, bullied and called pig my entire life 🤷
Dark chocolate is actually good for you in moderation
that's true for almost all food
@howdareyou41 definitely not true for everything
A field of "um ackshuallys" lies before me.
100% cocoa is legitimately healthy
@@howdareyou41 nop. everything is good if they have what your body need and don't have anything that your body reacts badly or doesn't want in it. Meaning water is healthy as long as your body needs it, but if you drink too much water your body stops needing it and it can kill you. the same with anything else. but the portions change to each food. try to eat sugar as much as you drink water and see what happens. dark chocolate is good in very small portions. but usualyl when people say a certain food is bad for you they are still implying portions. you can consume cocaine and be good for you if it's 0,5 grams. try to consume 1 pound of cocaine and see what happens.
The eat habits you form in youth are almost impossible to break. I started eating for two when I was a teen and it was impossible to break until Wegovy
Even worse is that once you hit morbid obesity, calories in/ calories out permanently stops applying to you. You have to eat far, far, far less than others to undergo weight loss until your body re-adjusts. This is why so many people who are morbidly obese find it near impossible to lose weight unless they have something like bariatric surgery which essentially removes most of all of your ghrellin production. The mechanical limitation on the amount of food you can eat in a single sitting also changes, of course. We know so much more about the nature of obesity than we did 30 years ago.
@@Lupostehgreatdamn I didn't know you can get so fаt you start breaking the laws of physics, that's crazy dude
@@duhotatoday3277 yup, believe it or not you can. I was talking to your mom about it, last night. You should call her, btw. She misses you.
@@Lupostehgreat gottem
@@Lupostehgreatwhat you mean with calories out/ calories in doesnt apply??
Its thermodynamics
Elaborate please
Turkey tom is the type that wants destiny as a male role model, the kind of guy sneako could have been.
But Destiny is a girl's name...
@@Dizastermaster. And Tom isn't even a Turkey
@13:20 when I was 70 lbs overweight my family was telling me I was at a healthy weight. Literally all of them. They are all delusional on the idea of obesity and understanding a healthy weight is beyond them and several others. When I started to get to a healthy weight according to the bmi scale they started to say I looked like I was too skinny and maybe unhealthy. Maybe that's their cope that they couldn't control their eating habbits and were jealous but really I got the same thing from a lot of people so idk. I think there is a mass delusion baked into American culture.
you think tom and destiny ever explored each others bodies 🥺
I've been thinking they have a lot of sexual tension since I saw them first time on screen, and 17:35 just made me even more sus when he calls him baby "ironically". They just seem like they would be into each other, which is cute lol
@@Mignon15 It's possible. But this is also a common way straight men joke around with eachother. Could go either way.
@@mr-h6xI did that so much I gaslit myself into being bi
Profile pic checks out.
@@mr-h6xWell Destiny is Bisexual, so unless Tom has no clue there's only one "straight" man here.
I'm annoyed that August couldn't put in the effort to move the chat box when Turkey Tom was comparing his arm sizes. Now it's lost to history :(.
I think there's several of Tom's videos where he does that, maybe it was the vegan gains one but I'm not sure
The idea that Think Before You Sleep is just a run of the mill anti Woke youtuber making good content is ludicrous.
And the idea that someone who sounds like a 1920's cartoon duck can criticise other people is hilarious.
It's interesting seeing Destiny taking down one of Vaush's blood enemies. :D
lol, ever since Hamas arc has been up, Destiny hates Noah more than Vaush
Tom's the kinda guy to not say absolutely anything of substance
Noah’s biggest problem is he’s not funny yet keeps making low effort stuttering jokes. Get a new routine please.
It’s not wrong that all food is food, the issue is what comes right after, « you can eat what you want ».
No, you can’t eat just whatever you want because not all foods have the same ratio of nutrients to junk calorie and addictiveness, not to mention carcinogens and that kinda stuff.
And it’s hilarious that noah thinks the caveat changes anything to the point.
And insulin spikes can be an issue for developing diabetes.
Stupid are food is food? Yes. No matter what it is inside. It is still food at the end of the day. So yes u can eat what ever u want without attacking yourself nor being harassed or shamed by ppl. Seone shouldn't be harassed cause they ate a KitKat
Yall agree that vegans shouldn't be harassing ppl for eating meat right? That same rules applies to this.
How tf u claim u agree then missed the point
@@kuggacouragegx6093 « It is still food at the end of the day »
Yes, it is still food at the end of the day, no, you can’t eat just whatever you want, because if you live by this hedonistic ethos you’ll most likely end up obese because, as it happens, although all food are food not all food is the same.
Some food have incredibly poor nutrient density whilst being extremely calorie dense and extremely addictive, thus if you just ate whatever you wanted chances are you’d be eating mostly unhealthy foods (which is to say the aforementioned nutrient poor calorie rich addictive foods).
« Seone shouldn’t be harassed cause they are a KitKat »
Did I ever say that ? Please could you find the place in my comment where I said that ? No you can’t, because I never said nor advocated nor even come close to hint that it’s what we should do.
We should promote healthy diets and teach people how to appreciate good healthy foods and we shouldn’t incentivize poor behavior by celebrating fatness or refusing to acknowledge that fatness is unhealthy, and we can do all of that without bullying anyone.
Heck it’s not even like you have to cut out unhealthy food entirely, you should just eat them in moderation is all.
« Yall agree that vegans shouldn’t be harassing ppl for eating meat right? »
And maybe that question would be warranted if I ever proposed to harass anyone, which I didn’t, so back off.
« That same rules applies to this »
You know you can criticize someone’s lifestyle without harassing them right ? It is in fact possible to advise someone to go easy on the triple mcburgers with seven sides of French fries and 2L of coke without being mean or harassing them, just like it’s possible for vegans to present an argument as to why it’s unethical or unhealthy or inefficient (pollution wise) to not be vegan, without harassing anyone.
Could you stop pretending like that’s what I’ve done here (harass anyone I mean) ?
And I’m not pretending that I agree, I’m pointing out that though the statement is technically true it’s also completely useless because it doesn’t actually take into account the other side of the question which is that although all food is food, not all foods are equal in terms of being a part of a balanced healthy diet, some are in fact objectively better in that regard.
Or if you prefer, all food is food =/= all food is good food, and it’s disingenuous of her to pretend like those two are the same, with her only caveat being if you’re allergic or diabetic.
@@dakotahodges1939 how tf that is dumb?
Also did u read my comment? So u think we should harass and tell ppl to kill themselves and make them feel bad for eating 1 kiss chocolate?????
@@kuggacouragegx6093 you clearly didn't read his comment.
@@nathanjora7627 wow deleting comments. Typical
Think before you sleeps voice is the most annoying thing I've ever heard
He puts on a fake incel voice in his videos to appeal more to incels. His voice is totally different when he's on someone else's stream. Blew my mind when I saw him on whatever
Noah's more annoying, lol.
Think Before You Sleep sounds like an Incel because he is.
@wisemage0 No way man. At least not when it comes to voice and production value and shit. Otherwise I would say they are equally stupid, Noah is just more pretentious
@@neetpride5919 "incel"
Ppl ABSOLUTELY discriminate against fat ppl
Yeah, that shouldn’t be something controversial. I can admit that I was pretty mean to fat people after I had an extreme weight loss.
@@firstbradley3281ur very cringe for that
bruh insulting is not discrimination
when he says "in the adult world", hes usually referring to normal adjusted people, not internet stuff
@senatordodo4240 I'm referring to normal adult irl interactions. Fat ppl are discriminated and mistreated
"Chocolate isn't bad for you" - Streamer that chases his adderall with Redbull
He goes on to say "I have a normal BMI but I have a heart valve I can lose"
I wonder why Destiny
😂 Tom should just move in there & they could have a content house. They’re both far less annoying when together
Maybe it's because of his age, but it seems Tom'll have a sound take but then choose the most simple-minded approach to justifying the take. Which is not a huge deal but is mildly annoying
58:00 100% agree with these takes, only in that in the situations where a video gets age restricted or you get striked it'd depend on whether or not you're big enough to receive a TH-cam representative, otherwise the appeals process is pretty much automated despite saying it went through "human review"
Think before you sleep's video is terrible- he makes terrible points and concern trolls. Noah had a pretty good layup and he still biffed it. Even when Noah is right I still have a hard time agreeing with him- it's just the way he delivers points. Also, I don't particularly want to look at baby boy nips Noah, please and thank you.
He needs to stop repeating the nonsense that sugar spikes are fine if you're not diabetic. Over time, this can reduce insulin sensitivity and you develop T2 diabetes.
Didn’t think I’d hear Greg Doucette’s calorie philosophy here on destiny
Noah's video: Let's ignore all the bad things she did and focus on the bad things you did.
you are right, but please stop commenting everywere, i see you in almost every comment field i check
@@korvmaster229he’s on a mission who are you to to tell him to stop
@@korvmaster229It's ok, he's dgg's adorable resident schizo
@roymarshall_ oh he far transcends just DGG
@@korvmaster229it's a bot not real
Losing weight too fast also makes it so hard to keep off. Back in 2021, I went from 240lbs to 149 in about a year. Some of which was done using rather extreme dieting (often around 1000cal/day) because I wasn’t working out much. Going back to a regular-ish diet, I’ve gone back and hovered at like 175lbs, predictably.
Love this duo, you two bounce of each other really well.
Wrong
Destiny should've watched Think Before You Sleep's video 🙄
From the few points he makes he seems pretty stupid, no? Like there's a reason attacking people's appearance is banned in the dgg chat, it just adds nothing, and he isn't even trying to be funny with it.
@@TheWetdonkey That's the thing though, he never attacked her appearance and on the contrary complemented but noted that she didn't like pictures of herself because she doesn't dress in a way to accentuate her nice features
The section of TBYS "attacking" her appearance was the exact same thing destiny said about dressing for your body type and added basic hygiene
@@jacobmeilleur238do you understand how dumb that sounds ?
@@TheWetdonkey He's not attacking appearance lmao.
I personally know multiple people who think obesity is a myth and don't want to lose weight. It's a pretty popular idea in some dietician circles and people who believe in "intuitive eating." Their idea is that going against your cravings to follow any theory of what's "good for you" has been proven to fail, and people actually end up eating better if they just eat intuitively. Agree with Destiny that making fun of fat people or whatever is mean and unhelpful.
Never met anyone like that in my life. Crazy
I'm glad we finally have SOMEONE saying they've met real people who feel this way.
I have never encountered someone like that, and was wondering if this was a crazy online only thing.
I think most of those people have better genetics to buring those calories... Normal people get are just made they can't be like them.
@@memsysr the ones I know are fat. I think they're trying to cope with it and take some good ideas, which destiny states (try not to do things that will only make you feel bad about what you eat) to an extreme (BMI is completely uninformative as an indicator of health).
@@jenispizz2556I think it is to be the honest. The percentage of people who think like that is way below 0.1% of people if I had to guess. It’s far from a prevalent thought.
Man, now i get it why people hate me. I can eat whatever i want in whatever quantity i want. My metabolism is crazy fast, i dont gain a pound. I ate donuts and ice cream last night until my stomach felt like it was going to burst. I have no consequences.
When I started taking Adderall in highschool I lost 60 pounds in 4 months but I was basically starving myself. I got back on ADHD meds in October of last year and I haven't been starving myself, just eating less, and I've lost 50 pounds so far (in roughly 7 months). From 280LB to 230LB.
Oh wow! Congrats! I with Adderall was more available in Australia.
Be careful, it doesn't work forever.
That’s why Vyvanse is approved for binge eating disorder. Dexedrine was used in most of the 20th century for weight control
@@angelmartin7310I hear you but clearly this person has a lot to lose & is morbidly obese. They’re in the category that we would literally prescribe Vyvanse to FOR weightlosa
That’s called the Jenny Crank diet. Amphetamines are great for losing weight. You don’t see a lot of fat tweakers around, because you literally don’t have an appetite when on them. Same with mdma which is another form of stimulant. Try eating while you’re rolling lol, you have to practically force yourself to eat. Just be aware that it can cause other health issues for your heart and your mind further on down the road, and withdrawals can be pretty bad.
Something worth noting for the biggest loser study is they are significantly older. Peoples metabolism does slow down as they age, and 6 years can be pretty significant (29 to 35 is going to be pretty different, same with 35 and 41, 22 and 28 maybe not as much)
good point actually. ive already seen a difference between early twenties to mid twenties in my metabolism. it is still pretty fast but I definitly am full longer than a few years back.
Man I hate Think Before You Sleep, which is why it pains me to see that the dumbest person on TH-cam had to be the one to go after him.
is it because of his voice?
I like TBYS, have since he first started
@@IamLotion get well soon!
@uslph. lol appreciate it
@@uslph. "Oh no0o!!1! there's someone who likes someone that i don't like, welp, might as well imply that they have an issue! lol! got that chud!"
Yo dawg, I heard you like videos - so here's a video, about a video, about another video, with another video to help you understand the video!
16:00 Destiny is hardcore debate brain mode lol
No hes not. "Healthly" when it comes to food is contextually dependant. Marathon runners can, and often do, drink a shit ton of highly processed carbs and would be less healthy without the carbohydrates. Why? Because they need the glucose to continue running at a decent level.
@@nothingnothing3947 I think people running marathons probably are not looking at destiny or illymation for dieting advice... and for everyone else this is just horrible advice. Desserts are just bad for you. High sugar things are just bad for you. If you think of literally the most extreme situations to say that all food is good for you at some time it is a meaningless statement.
@hoppers4prez214 Desserts and high sugar food absolutely can be fine and even healthy in a calorically controlled diet with sufficient food variety for micronutrient needs, and that's not just for people who run marathons. It's highly contextual, which makes it fairly misleading and false to label food as entirely bad. That's my entire point.
Also do you have evidence and a proposed mechanism for how high sugar foods are somehow, independent of their caloric burden, health degrading in the average person? I'm by no means an expert in nutritional science, but in my little reading and listening to subject experts I've yet to find any reason as to why "desserts" or high sugar foods are bad in and of themselves.
General advice for healthy eating should be about teaching how one determines what is or isn't healthy depending on the context, not spreading misleading and grossly overgenelized rules about entire food categories. People watching these videos aren't infants, they're adults or teenagers fully capable of learning without stupid and false heuristics.
@@nothingnothing3947 sweets have lots of sucrose without fiber. This is important because sucrose splits into fructose and glucose. Glucose is fine for you and is processed by basically everything. Fructose can only be processed in the liver so liver cells get hit with a huge amount of it at once. When you cells get too much sugar at once, they make more citrate than they can process. The citrate has to go somewhere so it is processed into VLDL cholesterol (causes heart disease). It also up regulates phosphate scavengers that produce uric acid which suppresses proteins that control NO production which is key in regulating blood pressure (leading to hypertension).
It is understood that these foods are just not good to consume for your health. Indulging every now and then is fine but if you were perfectly optimizing for your health you wouldn't ever eat them because they play no important role in your diet.
@@hoppers4prez214do you eat any sweets?
destiny x turkey tom is a big brother x little brother vibe i need
Only an American would identify "wheat bread" as a healthy food.
With all the chemicals they put in their foods I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
It is, if you're plowing yout land for farming...
But a sedentary life? Nope
As an american, wheat bread likely IS the healthiest compared to the majority of shitty food we have here lol
It can be good if it is multigrain brown bread
But Europeans will say an equally stupid thing that bread you get from the bakery is somehow healthier
“Calories in and calories out is meaningless” whaaaaaaaat? 😂 21:15
It is true
I love the Tom x Steven friendship. Please don't burn this bridge
the "forced to leave" immediately after zero scrutiny or call for solid evidence whereas the cancel campaign for which there is a direct evidence is presented in a dubious way.
also - hiring security is orders of magnitude better than moving states, especially if you're rich just for the time inconvenience alone is so much better - of course nothing of this gets scrutinized in any capacity.
this has to be my favorite dynamic for both of them as a viewer of both, destiny and tom make killer content all the time, but together? absolute kino every time
Not only are bad eating habits as a kid difficult to overcome as an adult, but your fat cells have a chemical "memory". Data suggests that someone who has never been obese will store less energy as fat than someone who has previously been obese. This likely explains some of the crash diet regain Destiny covered in the video.
Meaning that getting fat the first time is much more difficult than getting fat a second time. If you gain that weight as a kid you will probably battle it your whole life.
"No food is good or bad for you" is the dumbest most uneducated thing I've ever heard someone say. He then doubles down with you can get all your macros from candy bars and it be ok. No it wouldn't be ok. Then he triples down with "insulin spikes dont matter" oof no no no no!
I disagree with the 'no food is bad for you' take as well, but his argument was that if you hit all your macros then eat empty calories you'd be fine, not that you can be fine getting all your macros from candy bars
If anything the opposite is the most uneducated thing ever. “Good” and “bad” are arbitrary value judgements lmao, I think the point was food is just calories, and for weight loss for example, 300 calories of donuts are the same as 300 calories of carrots. Nutrients are a different matter, but I don’t think that was the point.
Damn you’re actually pretty unhinged based off your comments
@PoorEdward It isn't the same because all those foods interact in your body differently. What those calories consist of is equally as important.
that take is straight up a lie, there clearly is food better than other food. instead of saying past a certian point focusing on which is better is worst than going for the worst food. it ignores it.
24:25 Wow great job not priming your audience against TBYS’s potential arguments man. Way to just make people assume he won’t make any good arguments, when he’s VERY nuanced in his health/diet opinions. He also ALWAYS compliments the people he covers at some point, as a way to make sure his audience don’t become radical. God damn. Destiny says this and then goes on a rant about childhood eating habits that I’m pretty sure is exactly one of the points TBYS has made before. I thought he made shitty arguments?
As an old fart, if I had to give one piece of advice to young folks, it would be "Take care of your body." Not for vanity reasons, that will come naturally, but because when you get older, it will affect your quality of life.
I was skinny my entire life and got pretty fat in my late 20s. I loved it bc I was always soft and comfy. Then I had children, nieces and nephews and I'll be damned if you thought I was allowing them to be more athletic than me lol i lost over 70lbs in 3 months by fasting and only eating proteins and vegetables. I've been skinny for nearly 6 years now. It was a really strict diet but I have no real attachment to food whatsoever, unlike most people.
So you can easily lose more than 6lbs per month but if you love food my diet would never work. Just don't eat anything your great great grandmother wouldn't recognize, shop only on the outside perimeter of grocery stores and ABSOLUTELY NO sugary drinks.
The start of 2023 in january i weighed 167 and thought "dam im heavy" as that was my heaviest ever, and by mid Febuary I was 199. And now im 225 since December of 2023.
I had just turned 29 and started drinking a beer or 2 daily. So the gain can happen quick with no effort but it requires a ton of input and a slow process to revert
That's because you can only realistically lose so much weight (even if you starve yourself your body only burns so many calories) but you can over eat to an infinite degree
Pretending to think no food is bad for you but then going into a 10,000 word digression about nutrient payload which just amounts to saying that some food is bad for you in comparison to other foods. Classic Destiny.
Destiny sure is confident while being completely wrong. I lost 30 pounds in 6 weeks completely healthily. Everyone has a different metabolism. Bro thinks he’s an expert at everything, and I see him being wrong more often than not.
Omg dummy u didn't really proved him wrong
I was gonna watch this whole video but then I realised... wait, I dont care. I don't watch Illymation, I dont watch TBYS, I dont watch Tom and I don't watch Destiny. But that's TH-cam drama I suppose. Making something relatively simple seem like a big thing to hit a check point in an algorithm. And heres the thing: I dont think anyone else really cares either. Its not about Illymation, its not about TBYS, its this stupid culture war milk farm thing that pits vague strains of ideologies against each other like action figures. Sold by Twitch streamers and Drama farmers who really have no clue what they're talking about just reaffirming what their audience already thinks. And everyone is ultimately worse off for it. Because it'll be forgotten about next week, and onto the next thing. And the next. And the next. Where everyones talking about everything, all the time, but nothing's really being said.
Yep, pretty much. Except I do watch Destiny. But none of the other people involved.
Sure, probably true for the most part, it did let me reaffirm some of my beliefs though about the problems of modern society. Reading comprehension is the the ground, people live in extremes and refuse to see nuance or grey zones, etc.
For the most part though, id say youre right, big of entertainment helps though
How TF did this end up in your recommended?
"you only lose 6 pounts of fat a month" 29:00 i've literally lost 20 pounds in a month for 2 months in a row before slowing down before, its not so simple, it depends a lot in how fat you are when you start losing weight, as you get lower on your fat percentage it gets slower.
It's more that loosing about 6lbs of fat tends to be a far better course of action than loosing 20 at once. Obviously there are extreme cases where you need to lose a lot of fat, but it is if possible, better to lose it slowly. Plus it is easier to keep off if you are doing it through lifestyle changes you are maintaining.
And how much muscle are you under feeding and losing as well.. Why ever bulk and then cut if you could just it at the same time?
"Bro thinks he lived at 4600 calorie daily deficit for 2 months"
The problem is that loosing that much weight that fast aint healthy
@@duhotatoday3277 for really, really big people that rapidly change. Yes, they can. As much as overweight people cannot fathom how little healthy people eat, healthy people cannot fathom how much some people over eat. Some people really can clock like 5k daily calories and then suddenly restricting it to 2k a day can see giant losses in the first months of weight loss. 20lbs may be hyperbole, but remember you can infinitely over eat so calorie restrictions can be massive for giant people.
by his logtic its like saying: "thats not murder, thats step one of murder, the attempt"
Destiny, I lost 50 lbs in 6 months. I kept it off for a year, and after I started college I shot back up to 250 from 220. (I started at 270)
0:50 Destiny going OFF spitting FIRAH rn.
It's insane how popular Leftist essay channels are for basically professional yapping sessions.
15:13 Nvm, Destiny lost it and TomDark is voice of reason 😅
16:41 Aw yeah, is Tom Bouta debate Destiny on health and fitness? Atleast someone has a good take here
Toms the kind of guy to hurl SA accusations then when proven wrong, doubles down
Exactly. Like wtf. She got doxxed and he is doubling it down and downplaying as if it isn't a big deal, as if he is trying to justify it. And literally still lying about the deplatforming myth his friend tbys made up.
The dude js so fake
@@kuggacouragegx6093 hopefully one day people will realize
@@ghett0_tech228 they won't. Cause they want to be dishonest and hypocritical.
Like I want to make a video calling everyone out for them lying so bad you know
@@kuggacouragegx6093Wouldn’t be good because you’d just be screaming at the camera for 30 minutes.
@@edorasmarauder5761 what
I was a super fat child growing up, maxed out around 306 when I was like 22 years old. I got divorced and dropped 100 LBs by fasting and eating healthier. The depression helped haha but I’m chilling now, wearing clothing sized I never thought I’d fit in. Feels nice
We are in a ReactCeption. Illymation, being reacted to by TBYS, being reacted to by Noah Samson, being reacted to by Destiny and Tom Dark.
My brain is actually rotting
4:40 does destiny have a weird folder on his desktop like vaush? 😂
If I recall, I believe Destiny said Vaush should have had a 2nd monitor to avoid that drama.
And knowing how xxx hungry destiny is, he could have some freaky stuff on his 2nd monitor.
@@TapDat52K could be those videos Delaguna keeps talking about 😂
He does have a folder labeled “For Israel” so....
@@Observette that reaction didn’t look like it was a political folder lol
chocolate actually has a lot of positive qualities similar to coffee and tea, if you were choosing between chocolate and any other sweet it's easily better
You sound european. In the good ol USA our "chocolate" has so little coca it cannot be legally sold in the EU as chocolate. Its basically sugar+oil. In fact, for anyone that needs to hear this, every pre-prepared food in the US is just sugar+fat+salt; which is why its so bad for you and labelled "unhealthy". Yes, even that fancy health restaurant you go to.
I gained 50lb within 2-3 years after getting sober from heroin/fentanyl. I tried Keto last year. Over the course of 6-8 months, I lost that 50 lbs. I gained it all back within a year. I'm 5'11" and 210 lbs. I'm pretty darn fat. Rubber banding my weight like that is more unhealthy than just gaining the 50 lbs and leaving it alone.
Is rubber banding worse than being a fat pos really?
Is it weird I want them to kiss? When Tom got up for water and Destiny said "be careful babe" I swear my heart skipped a beat. I think these two should get it on and then go get BrodieTV for the thrizer. Uncancellable