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are u only couting summer sports or is this including winter olympic sports to? Because the US arent all great in the skii elemnts outside of a very few select women like Jeesie Diggins for example.
NOT terribly researched, as Forrest Gump competed during his time during the Vietnam War and table tennis didn't make it to the Olympics until 1988. So the flaw is with the Forrest Gump people, not me
@@voxathletica i was joking if that wasnt already clear, great video, also idk if the forest gump movie even depicts him playing in the olympics, just has him playing ping pong
My buddy from field hockey has played on the US Team since after high School. To this day they haven’t qualified for the Olympics. If he hangs on until 2028 and the Olympics are held in LA we’ll get the auto invite to finally be in them!😅
The modern pentathlon was a collection of abilities an army officer (not a soldier as stated) was supposed to have in early 20th century. Pistol shooting (officers were armed with pistols), horse riding, fencing (not only officers had sabers for display. Honor duels were still a thing back then), cross country and swimming (you have to move on the battlefield).
As the other viewer pointed out, it has a military tradition at its base. But that said, I think there should be a modern MODERN pentathlon, make it 5 completely unrelated events chosen at random. Maybe even change it every year, why not, shake it up lol
The events have changed and from the next Olympics horse riding will be removed and replaced by Obstacle Course Racing. The running and shooting are combined as 1 event called the 'Laser Run' due to the pistol emit TMG laser light and not bullets. Fencing, swimming and OCR are run as individual events for points and the Laser Run is then started in a staggered start with the highest points starting first. Whoever wins that run wins the Pentathlon. It’s awesome.
I'm kind of surprised team handball has never taken off in the US - it's like this wonderful no-personal equipment blend of soccer, basketball, lacrosse - limited dribbling - just a great mix... friends in Europe play on teams and I've seen them.
Most sports Americans are good at, we would have played in gym class or as an after school sport. Handball is neither one. Honestly this video is the first time I seen it played.
@@Ace-mw9pmreally? That‘s interesting cause here in Germany handball is an absolute staple of gym classes despite the fact that it‘s not really very present in popular culture. Like people don‘t usually watch handball on TV or go to games but everyone knows about it
@@XYZ-zn6qz gym class in America we play American football, basketball, baseball, dodgeball, field hockey, and some other small games. And if you live California or Texas you probably play a lot of soccer.
@@Ace-mw9pmI've noticed the American teams that win medals at youth soccer tournaments in Europe are from California or Texas, I didn't know that there was a cultural preference in those two regions of the US for soccer, does that mean they play other sports less? And what about the east coast?
Probably too much competition from basketball. Often only one or two similar sports can be mainstream in a country. Australia has basketball and netball so we don't care about handball. European countries tend not to play netball because of the climate. The US is hugely into basketball.
@@TheAmazingHuman-Man I think it's getting more popular as in it's not getting LESS popular, but nothing near where it would need to be to compete globally
@MsJubjubbird France, Germany and even Spain have competitive Handball and Basket-ball teams and they're not the most played sport being way behind football/soccer.
One sport you left out is Biathlon. The US has never won a medal of any color I believe in Biathlon, even though they have come close. Interestingly the US has won a gold in Curling.
Good point! Biathlon is the only winter Olympic event where the US hasn't won a medal. I was more zeroed in on the summer sports with Paris 2024 approaching, but you're absolutely right
@@voxathletica You also left out climbing. It was introduced in 2020. I don't think USA won any medal there either. The american women have a good chance at a podium in 2024.
@lamelists partially because we have other sports shoved down our throats, basically football and basketball. Sports talk radio will talk football year round. ESPN has rights to the NHL and will crap on it all the time. So to introduce a new sport is all but impossible
@@corysleeger1574I see your point but all the US medals can't come from 3 sports that only have one medal per gender, the media *might* cover track, swimming, gymnastics, and figure skating strictly during the olympics but that's it, I think it more so has to do with schools not having handball teams specifically
Surprised to hear that there are US schools where this is known as a sport at all. When I was in the US for a year in the Mid 90s, I had to explain very often what I was talking about when I mentioned "Handball". Mind you, that was obviously before TH-cam etc. so there was no way of just showing a videoclip. That being said, I didn't really enjoy it when we played it at school in Germany. The reason? Well, in every sport the ones who play it also at a club have got an obvious advantage; but in most sports, you can still act as a team. E.g. even if you can't do a slam dunk, you can still pass a basketball in a somewhat decent fashion. Not so for handball. You either play it at the club or you have really no idea what you're doing.
Just little humble brag. Denmark with a population of 5,9 mil have 5 medals in Handball, 9 in Badminton, 1 in field hockey and 1 in Table tennis :-) Nothing like the states, but still proud of our little country :-D
As an American seeing us dominate in so many areas, I actually like that other countries are taking gold in places we have not. I think it’s stingy to want to dominate the whole damn thing.
Variety is the spice of life for sure. And it gives American athletes something to aspire to, there's very little ground that hasn't already been walked
@greenconcrete-z8m Absolutely, on a per capita basis it's a different story. The US has that unique combination of population size, dump trucks of money, and cultural support that, when turned towards something like the Olympics, leads to dominance
@greenconcrete-z8m the per capita argument is invalid since rules artificially cap how many athletes nations can send, plus there's a finite number of events. It'd be as meaningless as tracking goals per capita in a game and concluding Brazilians suck at soccer because they only beat Honduras 4-1 instead of 40-1. It's still 11 v 11 on the field and there's a time limit. Per capita comparisons are for open ended stats like GDP, not constrained ones. The difference is that medal tables are counting something tangible. "Fair" or not, those medals really exist and represent events that really happened. By contrast per capita comparisons are artificial constructs that ignore Olympic rules and nature, and have no connection to reality. They're fallacious and meaningless. And yes the cap on athletes each nation can send will logically impact medals. We can see the likely empirical impact with split German teams going from a combined 142 medals in 1988 to 82 with a unified team in 1992. That may be as close to a controlled experiment as we can get. Number restrictions make a huge difference and the limitation of only having a finite number of medals to win is an even bigger factor. Consider this. Bermuda, with a pop. of 70k, won its only gold medal ever at these games. China, with a pop. of roughly 1.4 billion, would have to win 20,000(!) gold medals at the Tokyo games to match them per capita. There are only 332 events. China having a hard time would be one thing, but that it's a mathematical IMPOSSIBILITY should be a warning sign that per capita comparisons are fundamentally flawed in this case. If Bermuda somehow had 1.4 billion people to draw from but retained the same sleepy island culture it wouldn't win 20,000 medals (mathematically impossible). Nations are restricted in amount of athletes they can send, such that Americans on a bad day could not qualify for US Olympics team but on good day could win a medal. If every event didn’t have nationality restrictions and people on qualified on merit/time, the US would have 50x more athletes in and would win nearly that much more. You see this by virtue of the fact that tiny European nations that are less than 5% of the US population have about 30% of the athletes as the US. Or put another way, if all 50 US states were separate countries, instead of about 500-600 athletes from the US, you’d have 7000-8000 athletes if you added up how many each of the 50 states would get as separate countries. Furthermore, with a limited amount of events and law of diminishing return, it’s impossible for a huge nation to win per capita. If New Zealand won one gold medal, China could win every other event in the Olympics and still be behind in per capita. Not to mention that per capita is not how we rate best nations in sports. In ⚽, Uruguay is clearly the best nation per capita, but they aren’t considered the best; Argentina now or Brazil all time because they are current world champions or have won the most all time are considered the best at ⚽
If the US is not winning any medals or dominating in the sport, that sport will barely be seen on american TV and if it is broadcast, it will only be during the Olympics & very brief.
@@MsJubjubbird Diving is poorly commercialized (global scale), very predictable, and isn't an Olympic pride event like marathon, so of course it's not often broadcasted.
@@cocoroni1031 they often show the finals because it's quick and it looks spectacular. The marathon is really only broadcast in the final stages because no one is going to tune into people running for a whole 2-3 hours. They'll usually just switch over to it for a couple of minutes for updates
Interestingly enough that's one of the 6 sports that were invented and are a part of the Gaelic Athletic Association here in Ireland. It is one of the least played sports here but its funny that it's popular in America and Canada
As a track fan, honorable mentions to Bob Schul and Billy Mills winning both the 5000m and 10000m in 1964. The only US gold medals. And RIP Bob Schul who just passed away last month. Got an honorable mention at the olympic trials.
Surprised to hear about field hockey! It's a super common sport for girls in high school here. Not sure why we lag behind compared to other women's team sports.
Ping-pong was a name created by an English firm: J Jaques and Son. Trademarked in the USA by Parker Brothers. // The game was invented in England, so don't complain about the names, since the ENGLISH created the game!
Great list for sure 👏 I was really happy to see three of our favourite and popular athletes here in Egypt on this video in handball at 07:25 those three are very loved and celebrated . BTW handball is a very popular sport in North Africa ( Algeria ,Tunisia , Egypt) ,specially Egypt and Japan as well ..We have it here almost in every school since 1997 when two Egyptian sportsmen changed the world of Egyptian sport here by introducing it to youth .
I noted that Egypt has a very strong and proud tradition of Handball while researching this video. Of the 12 nations in Men's Handball in Paris, I believe 2 were regional qualifiers from Asia and the Americas, 9 were from Europe, and then there was Egypt. Amazing stuff!
@@voxathletica Very true you should check out how Egyptian handball team has fared and its results throughout Olympic games and handball world Cup since 1997 .Specially in Rio 2016, Tokyo 2020 Paris 2024, and best of all World Cup 2021 and our historical Semi-Final match against Denamark the Vikings of the game now with their legendary Danish Dragon as a Captain Mikkel Hansen (he was born in 1987and still rocks !) . We missed some historical medals by a point or two 😥 and we have a lot of professional women handballers in Europe as well ,though our national women team is sadly not that strong for a reason or two...
The crazy thing is, in football the US women's team is one of the best in the world and they have won gold medals (and World Cups), but on the male side they are not even close, and I don't see the gap closing any time soon. Great list!
US football/soccer is probably the wildest case of the women absolutely dominating the men in terms of international performance. I could do a video on just that topic alone, it's insane
I heard that title nine has a lot to do with it. since there were no female american football teams on colleges, they gave a lot of scolarships to womens soccer
@lamelists it's actually pretty simple bro. Most countries are severely undeveloped when it comes to the female side of the sport so there's not much competition for the women but that's changing and other countries are catching up fast
Well, Spain are world cup reigning champions and they have the last 2 ballon d'or in the national team, so yeah, Europe its catching up really fast. The thing is there is nothing like college sports and their money in Europe, and that helped a lot to develop women football in the US way quicker. But with the Women Champions League gaining level year by year and European clubs getting more involved every year, they will dominate eventually like in men.
Allow me to introduce you to the Olympic Event known as the Modern Pentathlon. First introduced into Olympic competition in Stockholm in 1912, it was set up with 5 events in which military officers had to master in case they found themselves behind enemy lines and had to return to their own lines. For the Olympics the event was dominated by European military Officers up till the 1936 games in Berlin won by a German Luftwaffe offices. With an American coming in 2nd to claim the Silver medal. In the 1912 Olympics a Lt. George S. Patton competed for the USA, coming in 4th, just a narrow margin out of 3rd place. The competition is as follows; an officer finds himself behind enemy lines and he must use 5 different specialities to escape/evade capture. The 1st event is usually FENCING. All contestants use the same type us "sword" in a round-robin competition. (so now the officer is free, and he must "steal" a horse to start back to his own lines) All contestants choose a horse by "pot luck" one that they have NEVER ridden before. There is a time element for Riding the horse over the same course that is no less than 5 kilometers. This event is NOT show jumping, but includes Riding over fences, hedges and at least one water obstacle. The next event is SHOOTING. All must use the same type of handgun, in this competition. Shooting at a target no less than 50 meters distance. Next is the SWIMMING competition. Again on a timed competition over a course of no less than 2,000 meters. Finally there is the RUNNING competition on a course of no less than 3 kilometers. Again your running against the clock, and not against any other competitor. In scoring the competition the lower the score the better your place, like golf and cross country. I hope this has cleared up this Olympic event.
Speaking of its army background , Paris 2024 champion Gold medalist Ahmed elGendy أحمد الجندي with an Olympic record of 1555 points and he is also the World Champion in it , who competes with his brother Moh.ElGendy he won World bronze ;both has the surname of elGendy الجندي which translates into army office/soldier in Arabic (Egyptian dialect ) I think both were born to it 😄 Ahmed has degree in engineering BTW 😸 his fiancée and her sister play pentathlin too and one of them got a Bronze world medal in it in mixed teams
Surprisingly the only sport that USA will almost never overcome India in Number of gold medals is hockey India has 8 gold medals in hockey in which they won 6 consecutive gold medals all that gold coming in the years of 1928 to 1980 its was unreal domination 8 gold 1 silver and 2 bronze only one time in that 52 years they failed to win a medal 😮
Yes, it seems highly unlikely at this point that the US will win even a single medal in that event, at least not in the near future. So winning 8 seems darn near impossible to me!
I remember back in Panamerican Games 2011 USA beat Argentina in the final of women's hockey which gave the USA a ticket to London 2012 and Argentina (a World powerhouse) had to walk another path to qualify. But in London Argentina went on to win silver and USA did not make it past the group stage; it defeated Argentina in the group stage match, though. In Rio 2016 USA had a stunning first round winning all matches but one (beating Argentina again) but it lost to Germany in the knockout stage
The trampoline one is PARTICULARLY odd, because Canada is for some reason in second place all time on the trampoline medal tables. While China is FAR ahead, it’s weird to see Canada and not the US winning medals.
@@voxathletica my only real hypothesis is that in 2000 when trampoline debut as an Olympic sport Canada won bronze in both the men’s and women’s competition. So from the start Canada has been relatively successful and thus Canadian children have been privy to Olympic medalists in trampoline at EVERY Olympics it has existed in.
@@niallgyulay6849 That makes some sense for sure, success inspires success. I wonder if it's a dam ready to burst and, once the first US gymnast breaks through, the floodgates will open for other American gymnasts
Considering how big the USA are and the technology they have spread throughout the states, I'm not that surprised they have so many medals. If I were to sum up the populations of European countries to match the USA's one (333 million people), it would be UK, France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined. These five countries number of Olympic medals in total would be 3364 medals (UK 938, France 785, Germany 663, Italy 630 and Spain 348). Anyway, this comment was just to show how envious I am. lol
LOL don't be envious! The US has the perfect blend of population size, technology, money, infrastructure, and culture to become a sporting powerhouse. Hard to replicate that elsewhere!
if you include every historical version of Germany, Germany has 1821, of those 922 as GER(1896-1952 & since 1992), 137 as EUA(1956-1964), 243 as FRG (1968-1988) and 519 as GDR(1968-1988).
the per capita argument is invalid since rules artificially cap how many athletes nations can send, plus there's a finite number of events. It'd be as meaningless as tracking goals per capita in a game and concluding Brazilians suck at soccer because they only beat Honduras 4-1 instead of 40-1. It's still 11 v 11 on the field and there's a time limit. Per capita comparisons are for open ended stats like GDP, not constrained ones. The difference is that medal tables are counting something tangible. "Fair" or not, those medals really exist and represent events that really happened. By contrast per capita comparisons are artificial constructs that ignore Olympic rules and nature, and have no connection to reality. They're fallacious and meaningless. And yes the cap on athletes each nation can send will logically impact medals. We can see the likely empirical impact with split German teams going from a combined 142 medals in 1988 to 82 with a unified team in 1992. That may be as close to a controlled experiment as we can get. Number restrictions make a huge difference and the limitation of only having a finite number of medals to win is an even bigger factor. Consider this. Bermuda, with a pop. of 70k, won its only gold medal ever at these games. China, with a pop. of roughly 1.4 billion, would have to win 20,000(!) gold medals at the Tokyo games to match them per capita. There are only 332 events. China having a hard time would be one thing, but that it's a mathematical IMPOSSIBILITY should be a warning sign that per capita comparisons are fundamentally flawed in this case. If Bermuda somehow had 1.4 billion people to draw from but retained the same sleepy island culture it wouldn't win 20,000 medals (mathematically impossible). Nations are restricted in amount of athletes they can send, such that Americans on a bad day could not qualify for US Olympics team but on good day could win a medal. If every event didn’t have nationality restrictions and people on qualified on merit/time, the US would have 50x more athletes in and would win nearly that much more. You see this by virtue of the fact that tiny European nations that are less than 5% of the US population have about 30% of the athletes as the US. Or put another way, if all 50 US states were separate countries, instead of about 500-600 athletes from the US, you’d have 7000-8000 athletes if you added up how many each of the 50 states would get as separate countries. Furthermore, with a limited amount of events and law of diminishing return, it’s impossible for a huge nation to win per capita. If New Zealand won one gold medal, China could win every other event in the Olympics and still be behind in per capita. Not to mention that per capita is not how we rate best nations in sports. In , Uruguay is clearly the best nation per capita, but they aren’t considered the best; Argentina now or Brazil all time because they are current world champions or have won the most all time are considered the best at
100% agree, the per capita alone doesn’t make sense, that’s why I specifically mentioned the technology available in the USA and the way it is spread all over its area. Anyway, the Olympic trials in the USA are the most difficult to win because of the high level of the competition. This is also due to its big population and the richness of the country that allow everyone to access good technology to train. So, I hope we can agree on the fact that when we want to look at the success of a nation in the Olympics it’s important to consider both the population and the technology.
@@ludovicobiamonti7276I always like the statistic when they show Robert Griffin III’s 100m time in high school would’ve almost put him in the finals in the Olympics. Not even the Olympic trials but the track & field high school championships in Texas, California, Florida and maybe Georgia to rivals the finals in a good amount of countries. These kids really are that good.
I'm America and I really enjoy handball. I fell in love with the Rio 2016 Men's German team and have followed them in Euros and World Championships since, and of course Olympics.
A honourable mention to Egypt please ,the only team outside Europe that has been one of the big five or six in it many times both in Olympics and World cup .We have had a draw with France in Paris2024, and lost to Spain by only one point 😥..
Another commenter pointed out that table tennis especially is something that is growing rapidly in the US due to increased immigration from Asian countries. So maybe the US sucks today, but it seems like there is a growing potential for future strength
@@voxathleticathe talent pool in China is SOOOOOOOOO big. It's honestly hard to imagine any other country taking gold in the next 3 Olympics. There's a few active players who are good enough to win gold, from Brazil, Germany, and Japan, and France, specifically, but even then, 4 of the 5 top players are currently Chinese.
@@voxathleticaThe US has won badminton gold in the world championship (not olympics) way back in 2005. Mens double pair consisting of en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Bach And en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Gunawan who is naturalised citizen and ex Olympics gold medallist. As bach moved to the US aged 2, arguably at least the US system has produced half a pair with an outside but decent shot, although that was 20 years back.
Table tennis is far and away the most popular sport in the country that until this year was the world's most populous. Unless an elite Chinese player emigrates to the US mid-career and qualifies for citizenship, the US is never winning a gold in table tennis, and probably never even medalling.
As far as I know about which race of an American likes sports, Asian Americans like ping pong and badminton. Whites and blacks prefer baseball and football. Almost all races in the US like basketball.
You need to call hockey hockey and ice hockey ice hockey before you can hope to win a medal in hockey. Seriously, hockey is very popular in India and Pakistan. The entry bar is quite high therefore. Any Western country that wants to be competitive needs to have a good selection process and high-level training program to reach or exceed the level of play in India. It's also a sport where you need to build a team and train together for years because many things happen so fast that you need to have blind trust in each other.
I think that, right there, really highlights the cultural differences when it comes to "hockey". One country calls it one thing, another calls it another. It perfectly outlines why one part of the world is good at it and another isn't
Norway has about 135k active hanball players men and women, with the national team for women bringing home gold multiple times. With a pop of +350m US should have 5 times that registered players.
That’s like saying China should be able to find 11 good soccer players. Unless a sport has a culture in your country it’s hard to get anywhere especially in team sports.
Nice lists. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that the majority of these sports are not a part of our collegiate sports system which means we don't have a way to develop these types of athletes. Only Field Hockey (this might be women only) and some parts of the modern pentathlon are college sports. Field Hockey is the only one that surprises me.
Agree with you completely, the NCAA is the minor leagues of the Olympics for America. If it ain't there in quantity, it won't be at the Olympics for the USA
Thanks for checking out the videos on the channel, much appreciated! Yeah trampoline was a surprising one for me too, the US is so good at gymnastics across the board that I figured they had won one by now. Paris 2024 could well be their year, we'll see!
I’m Canadian. I played competitive Handball when I was younger. It’s just not that popular in North America. Too bad. It’s an awesome game to both play and watch.
I didn't forget it, I deliberately didn't include some the events that only just got added to the games. It didn't seem fair to include them since there's only been a single iteration of them. A few folks have brought this up, so in hindsight I should have just said this right in the video, but I'll know for next time
Sadly no, must have been a World Championships or something because Table Tennis didn't make it to the Olympics until 1988. That said, as it's a fictional movie, we can pretend it was the Olympics lol
I don't know that it's that impressive that the 3rd most populous, and easily the country that invests the most in Olympic sport, is the most successful. There's smaller countries that do really well that I think is much more impressive, like Jamaica, Australia and New Zealand.
For sure, on a per capita basis, the US isn't all that impressive. Combine a huge population with tons of money, a culture focused on winning, and world class infrastructure and Olympic success is basically inevitable
the per capita argument is invalid since rules artificially cap how many athletes nations can send, plus there's a finite number of events. It'd be as meaningless as tracking goals per capita in a game and concluding Brazilians suck at soccer because they only beat Honduras 4-1 instead of 40-1. It's still 11 v 11 on the field and there's a time limit. Per capita comparisons are for open ended stats like GDP, not constrained ones. The difference is that medal tables are counting something tangible. "Fair" or not, those medals really exist and represent events that really happened. By contrast per capita comparisons are artificial constructs that ignore Olympic rules and nature, and have no connection to reality. They're fallacious and meaningless. And yes the cap on athletes each nation can send will logically impact medals. We can see the likely empirical impact with split German teams going from a combined 142 medals in 1988 to 82 with a unified team in 1992. That may be as close to a controlled experiment as we can get. Number restrictions make a huge difference and the limitation of only having a finite number of medals to win is an even bigger factor. Consider this. Bermuda, with a pop. of 70k, won its only gold medal ever at these games. China, with a pop. of roughly 1.4 billion, would have to win 20,000(!) gold medals at the Tokyo games to match them per capita. There are only 332 events. China having a hard time would be one thing, but that it's a mathematical IMPOSSIBILITY should be a warning sign that per capita comparisons are fundamentally flawed in this case. If Bermuda somehow had 1.4 billion people to draw from but retained the same sleepy island culture it wouldn't win 20,000 medals (mathematically impossible). Nations are restricted in amount of athletes they can send, such that Americans on a bad day could not qualify for US Olympics team but on good day could win a medal. If every event didn’t have nationality restrictions and people on qualified on merit/time, the US would have 50x more athletes in and would win nearly that much more. You see this by virtue of the fact that tiny European nations that are less than 5% of the US population have about 30% of the athletes as the US. Or put another way, if all 50 US states were separate countries, instead of about 500-600 athletes from the US, you’d have 7000-8000 athletes if you added up how many each of the 50 states would get as separate countries. Furthermore, with a limited amount of events and law of diminishing return, it’s impossible for a huge nation to win per capita. If New Zealand won one gold medal, China could win every other event in the Olympics and still be behind in per capita. Not to mention that per capita is not how we rate best nations in sports. In , Uruguay is clearly the best nation per capita, but they aren’t considered the best; Argentina now or Brazil all time because they are current world champions or have won the most all time are considered the best at
@@AW-zk5qb ya US sport is awful badly funded, get a grip. Doesn't have to be government funding, the US does well, but there are other countries who's achievements are more impressive
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“The US can get 1 or 2 great athletes from a population of 340 millions” Yeah but the sport is really popular in China, India, and Indonesia with a total population of more than 3 billions people.
For sure, and that's why they haven't medaled in those events yet. But the US can provide way more money, coaching, training, and infrastructure to make up the current gap. Olympic athletes aren't just born, they're made, and they're primarily made with those tools. And no country on earth can match the US in those regards, so if they ever wanted to catch up, they would
@@voxathletica The truly American way would be to offer the best Chinese, Indian, and Indonesian players a ton of money to switch federations and play for USA
Remarkably the US has won gold medals in rugby. Albeit back in 1920 and 1924. They got a bronze in Women’s 7s in Paris so they’re not a million miles away despite not being one of the traditional rugby nations.
Absolutely, there is definitely hope on the horizon for the US in rugby 7s. The women proved that they are in the hunt, and being on their home turf in 2028, who knows what could happen!
As for hockey, handball and rhythm gymnastics ....I would say the USA still has a looooong way to get any medal, since the USA can't even beat the best teams in its Panamerican region; Argentina dominates hockey with only Canada and Chile giving some competiton on the men's side and USA battling with Chile for a 2nd place with women. Brazil and Mexico teams domimate rhythm gymnastics with the USA teams always getting 3rd or 2nd at best. Argentina and Brazil dominates handball with the USA rarely making it to the semifinais in any Panamerican competition. Heck, The USA can't even with titles in the North-Carribean division. The potential is there, but I'd say the lack of popularity of those sports among Americans avoid talents to be discovered and improved
Yup, some of these I could see the US breaking through sometime soon (trampoline for example), but others will require more of a culture shift that seems a long way off
The issue is money. If you have talent for trampoline or rhythmic gym, your going to have the same skills to succeed in artistic gym, where, if successful, you will never have to work again after retirement and all your training will be sponsored. If you have the talent for handball, why play that when you can make millions playing basketball? And why play field.hockey when you can learn to skate and play ice.hickey for way more money?
about rhythmic gymmastcis the worst part the best americna gymansts still have no chanche against the best eurpean gymnast btw we fans still ask ourselves how Zeng was able to wi the elegance prize in 2019 ...
@@juditsomi4287 the requirements are similar- strength, low centre of graity flexibility. Now if you're strong, a good tumbler and flexible in the US, artistic is far more lucrative than trampolining or rhythmic. A lot of countries will redirect their artistic gymnasts into other gymnastic sports if they aren't going to make the artistic squad. The entire Chinese aerial ski team are redirected gymnasts and they dominate. Likewise with their divers and trampoliners and also Romanian aerobic athletes. Handball and basketball require similar skills- hand eye coordination, good at sprints, some sort of height. Sometimes you hear of athletes that could have been professionals in 2 or more ball sports. Now if was in the US, I could play basketball and never work again once my career is over and potentially have all my training paid for, or handball and be scrimping for funding and have to work as an assistant sports teacher until retirement
Great video. Let's not forget that other countries like my own are shite when you consider our history and investment in sporting events. Rugby, football(soccer) and cricket were all invented by England and the dough put into these sports by us Brits is amazing. We've never dominated for love nor money! Great video would be how tiny West Indian nations zig it up in track and field!
American gymnastics only began to take off in the 90s, and our men's team has never reached the same level of success as the women's team. We structed our program to match the success of the USSR ans Romania. I'm not surprised we haven't medalled in a male element.
Well given the relative success of the women's program, and the expanding interest in men's gymnastics, it stands to reason the US eventually puts some hardware on the wall there
Thanks for the informative video! The US only has one top level Badminton athlete at the moment and that’s Beiwen Zhang in the women’s singles who was born and trained in China before emigrating. She has only a puncher’s chance of medaling this year. Worse yet, the sport is lacking in finance and frankly popular interest in the US, as it is almost played exclusively by Asian-Americans!
Glad you liked it! Yeah things are looking grim for the US in badminton, it will take a generation at minimum to get going there and that's only if some more budget and infrastructure are added to support it.
So as a Dane - I think you might have forgotten us just a bit in some of these wonderful comments you came with. Denmark has a great history in both badminton AND handball and has won gold in both of these events. And one of the favorites to win in both of these in Paris even. With that said: I think it´s just a matter of time before the US manges to really break into any of these. With a huge population of some 300 million I think the chances are there for some of these in the future - depending on if the US is willing to put in the time and energy it takes to make it to the top.
No shade to Denmark, I had another Dane bring that up too and I promise it was nothing personal or intentional! Huge respect to Denmark's Olympic tradition, which is way more accomplished than people realize. And yes, you said it right: if the US puts in the time and energy (and money and infrastructure), they will win, full stop. At least eventually. Some could happen soon (trampoline for example), so would take time (table tennis for sure), but it would be inevitable if the US committed to it.
Mikkel Hansen rules but our Ibrahim elMasry (Egypt) cand handle the Danish Dragon to a dgree 😉...I am really glad that Scandinavian countries are making a come back in handball ❤🌷🙏
Badminton and Handball both have similar issues, one that perhaps applies slightly less to Rhythmic Gymnastics and field hockey: the athletes who would be best suited for those sports get pulled into other events. Instead of handball, Americans go into basketball; badminton gets replaced by tennis or volleyball. IN North America, field hockey is replaced by ice hockey or la crosse, a non-Olympic sport that if added would be dominated by the US and Canada. With rhythmic gymnastics there's the prevalence of artistic gymnastics, and some history of active suppression of the sport due to its connection to the Turners movement, a German social and philosophical practice that was accused of being anti-religious and was deemed highly suspicious due to its somewhat nebulous but definitely extant connections with socialism and European Nationalism. With respect to Modern Pentathlon, George Patton, yes, that George Patton, probably should have won a medal in 1912. In the shooting event, contestants fired five shots at a single paper target. When his was retrieved, the judges counted four holes, and scored a zero-point miss, rather than the more likely conclusion that he had put two shots through one hole, which some contemporaneous observers claimed to be over-sized. This miss dropped him to fifth in the scoring and out of the medals.
You do not need to be super tall to perform well in handball. Handball s biggest "market" is Europe where basketball is also important. Athletes from both sports have different attributes.
@@ahfei6847 A quick search brought me to an article stating that the Dutch handball team is becoming known for running a small lineup by international standards. Another search revealed that the average height on the roster is 1.9m, 6' 3" to those of us who use American units. You get a 15-year-old in the US who's over 6 ft and can handle a ball and coaches are going to think basketball guard or small forward, not "We've got to build a handball team around this kid."
@@basher20 1,90 is tall compared to the average man, but it also means about half of handball players are below the 1,90 mark which is still pretty short compared to the average basketball player. I mean short enough to be overlooked by bball scouts
They are epic athletes in real life as well as ut is a very challenging game , my brother 's friend used to play it and he explained it to me in the 1980's on paper when I was a child ,, most Egyptians didn't care about it back then till 1997 junior World Cup which we won here and it was never the same again for Egyptians ,changing a whole generation of youth. BTW tose three athletes in the epic still photo at 07:25 are Egyptians (wearing white ) but not the shooter ,I think he is Spanish . check this point by Egyptian Ahmed Adel
Race Walking. USA has won 4 medals in history, zero gold. USA is now so bad, even the best Americans couldn't secure an invitation to participate in the Olympics.
Finally watched handball coverage today, and yes, I truly think that sport has a hard time catching one at least partly due to name confusion... My whole family only knew of the one played against a wall ... Very different games...
Yep, I was a ball against the wall handball guy too. It seems trivial, and it's not up to handball to change the name, but it could be where some of the confusion comes from. It's not a good excuse at all, but it could be at least a contributing factor.
@@voxathleticaIts funny. Because in Europe nobody knows that the ball-against-wall-handball exists. There isn't even a different name for it either. Wikipedia just lists it as "American Handball".
So in field hockey specifically it’s notorious that the Americans are bad at it. It’s the same with football, that the culture just isn’t there to start from an early age. The Netherlands is really successful in the sport, because people there start to practice and train in the sport from 6 years old. No American sports have that kind of dedication
That last part is not true about American sports. In swimming many of the greatest swimmers in the US start swimming as early as around 4-6 years old some older but many of the best in the US start around the same time as many in Europe begin doing field hockey
@@nilechristensen728 I gotcha. Yeah, it's tough, the IOC doesn't mess around with their material. Short clips and be careful with your sources is my best tip
My sister was both a field hockey player and a badmiton player in high school and I, being younger, would wait for her practices to end and walk home w/ her (saftey in numbers -- Mother). Well, at one point, both her teams were in need of players to help bump the numbers up for practice and I would volunteer and step in as a fill-in player -- those girls were mean w/ those hockey sticks to the shins. Her badmiton team was also in need of fill-in players, so I would jump in there as well and got pretty good, so I asked if I could join the team, because it was non-contact sport, but the other players were really upset that a boy would be competing against them and the coach nixed it. Tough games, both.
I appreciate you dropping in that story to the comments, I love hearing about these personal experiences from viewers, it really hammers home how we all have a connection to Olympic events no matter how professional or amateur you are. And it's great you played both, gives a better appreciation for how tough they are!
well GB have taken golds in the first three of these events (though the trampoline only happened after this video was posted), we share their pain with the rest of these events though. I don't think we've ever even competed with rhythmic gymnastics and handball except in our home games in 2012, and we came dead last when we did compete in the rhythmic gymnastics in 2012.
He did win the pentathlon, but it was a different format than the one we have today. Good catch though! I actually have a video coming out next week on Jim Thorpe, dude was such a beast I decided he deserved his own video
FYI Patton was close to Silver Medal but they claimed that he missed a target. He went from second to fifth. You can look it up it happened in 1912. If I remember correctly.
He would have won the gold, but insisted on using his Army sidearm in the shooting competition instead of the precision pistol the Olympics provided, finished last in the shooting portion, and dropped to fifth overall.
Football or as you call it North America(soccer) has been the most popular game for millions in Central & South America , Europe ,Africa and even a few countries in Asia ,specially Arab countries with Japan & S.Korea ..It has been mingling with politics , billions & billions of US $ and Euroes , people lost their lives because of it , nation changed history because of it even Black Magic was there sometimes ..Fifa world cup, Eufa and CAF competitions are watched and loved by millions around the globe except in North -America and some countries in Asia like India & China !!..Almost every single man in South America , Africa and Europe at least has been affected by football once in his life ..We call it the 'Round Witch'
I remember the table tennis event tickets sold out very quickly in Atlanta and I wanted to go so bad since I played when I was younger. I am so disappointed the US has never one a medal
That would have been awesome to see live. I actually had the good fortune to see a Baseball game live in Atlanta during the 1996 Olympics, I'll never forget it!
I was expecting Judo and Greco-Roman Wrestling to appear here, but the U.S. actually won gold in each during the Olympics. Rulon Gardner: th-cam.com/video/6hxoHcVMSOc/w-d-xo.html Kayla Harrison: th-cam.com/video/7B4yzmf6FEQ/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely true, I didn't bother with a few of the brand new events as every country in the world other than one, by definition, hasn't won one yet lol
Modern pentathlon is getting rid of the equestrian aspect after these games for some sort of obstacle course, so I think that might help open the event to more Americans and improve the US' chances in the future.
Surprised by your interpretation of handball because thats actually Gaelic Handball which I honestly thought was just known in Ireland. Shocked to hear that it was a thing in the US.
I fully intend on doing one, but probably not until we get closer to the next winter Olympics. Hopefully you can stick with me and be patient until then!
@@voxathletica I think the one popular in North America (particularly New York) is essentially the same one popular here. Ninh Ly has a video about it, which you might find interesting.
That's an interesting idea, I don't think that aligns with their official policy about using the games to unite nations. Or maybe there's a way to do it that still aligns?
Us will probably never win a men’s field hockey gold. I don’t know a single man who has ever played the sport and it is looked at as a women’s only sport and a regional sport at that.
The US is definitely a very long way behind the rest of the world. And you pretty much highlighted the cultural bias against it that is holding it back, definitely agree it's seen as a women's sport in the US (and here in Canada too for what it's worth)
Good one! I'm already pretty loaded with content through the Paris 2024 games for Olympic stuff, but I just put it on my ideas list and if I can squeeze it in, I'll give it a go
Modern Penthatlon is quite surprising given the huge military and sports tradition in the US. Trampoline is easier to explain. It is quite new. Rhythmic gymnastics is a European thing, same with Handball.
Yeah it's curious as the US is pretty strong in the individual disciplines of the modern pentathlon, but just haven't been able to put the whole thing together
@@voxathletica i think specialization is the main thing. Pentathletes tend to only compete in their events and not try to try their luck in separate events. It has been dominated by Europeans.
They have not won it! But I didn't include it deliberately as it's only been at a single Olympics, so it didn't seem fair to hit them with that as a gap in the gold medal table. Also, the USA did win rugby gold in back to back years in 1920 and 1924, so they do have rugby gold still
I have checked and USA has won gold in all of these competitions in the Pan-American Games* (yes, even field hockey and trampoline). Of course, it's a much lower level of competition and only the Americas compete. But still. *except rhythmic gymnastics which is not part of the event
The USA has the money, people, and infrastructure to win in any of these events of they really wanted to. It all comes down to priorities and focus and spending
Funny in Handball you mention a lot of countries but not Norway or Denmark that are two of the biggest winners the last 20 years together with France or Badminton where Denmark have won quite a few gold medals as well
@@voxathletica Hey, cant mention everybody, its just that Denmark is like one of the winningst teams from the last 20 years, with 5 OL gold medals between the mens and womens teams
Here's my take: 1. Field hockey - USA has a chance (very small) but I'm not sure they're going to do it in the next 4 olympics. I think they'd medal before on this sport. 2. Modern penthatlon - USA medaled on this one before, honestly they can do it and get the gold maybe in between 2 or 3 edition. 3. Trampoline - This is shocking for sure, honestly with the way China is performing right now I'm not so sure about USA's chance. Maybe silver or bronze is possible! 4. Rhytmic gymnastic - I'm not sure about this one because USA in general are relying on strength not artistic nor fluidity but who knows maybe after the next 5 editions? 4. Table tennis - It's unlikely for USA to medal on this one, even after the next 25 years I'm not sure about even silver or bronze. Asian players (China) are the goat and some european players are very good. 4. Handball - It's close to nothing because in the last 4 or 5 editions did USA ever qualify? The sport doesn't even seems to evolve in the country. 6. Badminton - I'm not reaching for the stars on this one but I believe USA can win at least silver or bronze in the next 3 or 4 editions. There are some decent players but unfortunately the country need a top 5 ranking (men or women) material at least to be considered as competition.
Thanks for leaving your thoughts! Our views generally align. Table tennis, badminton and handball seem the furthest off to me, field hockey not far behind. The two gymnastics ones feel like a matter of when, not if, the US eventually wins gold I appreciate you checking out the video!
Currently the highest ranked american badminton player is Beiwen Zhang but she needs to work very hard to win an olympic medal. Tai Tzu Ying, Chen Yufei, An Se Young, Carolina Marin separates her from the olympic podium.
A quick note from me folks: sorry about the audio, it sounds like I was recording in a closet because I actually was. My travel setup needs some work, thank you for your forgiveness
Why on earth did you record in a closet
@@BrunoNeureiter I was on the road, I didn't have any other choice unfortunately. Forgiveness please
I'm pretty sure sure Forest Gump win USA gold for ping pong.
So did shooting games
are u only couting summer sports or is this including winter olympic sports to? Because the US arent all great in the skii elemnts outside of a very few select women like Jeesie Diggins for example.
Terribly researched because everyone knows Forest Gump won a gold medal for the US in ping pong
NOT terribly researched, as Forrest Gump competed during his time during the Vietnam War and table tennis didn't make it to the Olympics until 1988. So the flaw is with the Forrest Gump people, not me
@@voxathletica i was joking if that wasnt already clear, great video, also idk if the forest gump movie even depicts him playing in the olympics, just has him playing ping pong
@@colinbradley7361He was joking too
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@@colinbradley7361 He went to China and became champion there. So he was maybe a China Champion lol.
My buddy from field hockey has played on the US Team since after high School. To this day they haven’t qualified for the Olympics. If he hangs on until 2028 and the Olympics are held in LA we’ll get the auto invite to finally be in them!😅
Three cheers for the auto-invite! Maybe that will be their year to break through? Tell your buddy good luck!
@@voxathletica Let’s hope so and I definitely will✅
Just too much competition from ice hockey. It's like Australian men will never be great at soccer, because of the competition from Australian Rules.
They are bad at hockey
Who’s your buddy? I’ve also played for USA field hockey since 2011
Modern pentathlon sounds like such a random collection of events 😂😂
The modern pentathlon was a collection of abilities an army officer (not a soldier as stated) was supposed to have in early 20th century. Pistol shooting (officers were armed with pistols), horse riding, fencing (not only officers had sabers for display. Honor duels were still a thing back then), cross country and swimming (you have to move on the battlefield).
As the other viewer pointed out, it has a military tradition at its base. But that said, I think there should be a modern MODERN pentathlon, make it 5 completely unrelated events chosen at random. Maybe even change it every year, why not, shake it up lol
@@voxathletica "This year's competition will be one for the ages, as the first combination of skeet shooting and high diving...."
@@basher20 BAHAHAHA love it
The events have changed and from the next Olympics horse riding will be removed and replaced by Obstacle Course Racing. The running and shooting are combined as 1 event called the 'Laser Run' due to the pistol emit TMG laser light and not bullets. Fencing, swimming and OCR are run as individual events for points and the Laser Run is then started in a staggered start with the highest points starting first. Whoever wins that run wins the Pentathlon. It’s awesome.
I'm kind of surprised team handball has never taken off in the US - it's like this wonderful no-personal equipment blend of soccer, basketball, lacrosse - limited dribbling - just a great mix... friends in Europe play on teams and I've seen them.
Couldn't agree more! Not sure what's holding back Handball in America other than a cultural preference, but surely that can change in time
Most sports Americans are good at, we would have played in gym class or as an after school sport. Handball is neither one. Honestly this video is the first time I seen it played.
@@Ace-mw9pmreally? That‘s interesting cause here in Germany handball is an absolute staple of gym classes despite the fact that it‘s not really very present in popular culture. Like people don‘t usually watch handball on TV or go to games but everyone knows about it
@@XYZ-zn6qz gym class in America we play American football, basketball, baseball, dodgeball, field hockey, and some other small games. And if you live California or Texas you probably play a lot of soccer.
@@Ace-mw9pmI've noticed the American teams that win medals at youth soccer tournaments in Europe are from California or Texas, I didn't know that there was a cultural preference in those two regions of the US for soccer, does that mean they play other sports less? And what about the east coast?
I think Handball is a Sport that would fit the American audience so well, due to it’s physicallity and athleticiscm
I totally agree, I'm shocked it's not more popular in North American in general, I don't get it
I thought it was gaining traction here already. Or maybe I’m getting that confused with the like indoor soccer?
Probably too much competition from basketball. Often only one or two similar sports can be mainstream in a country. Australia has basketball and netball so we don't care about handball. European countries tend not to play netball because of the climate. The US is hugely into basketball.
@@TheAmazingHuman-Man I think it's getting more popular as in it's not getting LESS popular, but nothing near where it would need to be to compete globally
@MsJubjubbird France, Germany and even Spain have competitive Handball and Basket-ball teams and they're not the most played sport being way behind football/soccer.
One sport you left out is Biathlon. The US has never won a medal of any color I believe in Biathlon, even though they have come close. Interestingly the US has won a gold in Curling.
Good point! Biathlon is the only winter Olympic event where the US hasn't won a medal. I was more zeroed in on the summer sports with Paris 2024 approaching, but you're absolutely right
@@voxathletica You also left out climbing. It was introduced in 2020. I don't think USA won any medal there either. The american women have a good chance at a podium in 2024.
One other winter Olympic event, would be ski jumping with only one bronze medal.
@@lukeytronno, nathaniel coleman got silver
@@lonesome3958 that's the kid of Utah isn't it ? I recall seeing the news on it
U r right about handball. We used to play it in gym class and I always loved it
It's a fantastic sport, I don't know why North America doesn't love it more
@lamelists partially because we have other sports shoved down our throats, basically football and basketball. Sports talk radio will talk football year round. ESPN has rights to the NHL and will crap on it all the time. So to introduce a new sport is all but impossible
@@corysleeger1574I see your point but all the US medals can't come from 3 sports that only have one medal per gender, the media *might* cover track, swimming, gymnastics, and figure skating strictly during the olympics but that's it, I think it more so has to do with schools not having handball teams specifically
Surprised to hear that there are US schools where this is known as a sport at all. When I was in the US for a year in the Mid 90s, I had to explain very often what I was talking about when I mentioned "Handball". Mind you, that was obviously before TH-cam etc. so there was no way of just showing a videoclip. That being said, I didn't really enjoy it when we played it at school in Germany. The reason? Well, in every sport the ones who play it also at a club have got an obvious advantage; but in most sports, you can still act as a team. E.g. even if you can't do a slam dunk, you can still pass a basketball in a somewhat decent fashion. Not so for handball. You either play it at the club or you have really no idea what you're doing.
Just little humble brag. Denmark with a population of 5,9 mil have 5 medals in Handball, 9 in Badminton, 1 in field hockey and 1 in Table tennis :-) Nothing like the states, but still proud of our little country :-D
As you should be, Denmark is actually top 15 all-time in gold medals per capita! For a little country, those are some big results!
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Yeah, you and Norway are both great nations in wide array of sports nowadays. Love from Finland! ❤
They won many more. Those are just examples. How about sailing and cycling?
Hell yeah
As an American seeing us dominate in so many areas, I actually like that other countries are taking gold in places we have not. I think it’s stingy to want to dominate the whole damn thing.
Variety is the spice of life for sure. And it gives American athletes something to aspire to, there's very little ground that hasn't already been walked
@greenconcrete-z8m Absolutely, on a per capita basis it's a different story. The US has that unique combination of population size, dump trucks of money, and cultural support that, when turned towards something like the Olympics, leads to dominance
@greenconcrete-z8m the per capita argument is invalid since rules artificially cap how many athletes nations can send, plus there's a finite number of events. It'd be as meaningless as tracking goals per capita in a game and concluding Brazilians suck at soccer because they only beat Honduras 4-1 instead of 40-1. It's still 11 v 11 on the field and there's a time limit. Per capita comparisons are for open ended stats like GDP, not constrained ones.
The difference is that medal tables are counting something tangible. "Fair" or not, those medals really exist and represent events that really happened. By contrast per capita comparisons are artificial constructs that ignore Olympic rules and nature, and have no connection to reality. They're fallacious and meaningless.
And yes the cap on athletes each nation can send will logically impact medals. We can see the likely empirical impact with split German teams going from a combined 142 medals in 1988 to 82 with a unified team in 1992. That may be as close to a controlled experiment as we can get.
Number restrictions make a huge difference and the limitation of only having a finite number of medals to win is an even bigger factor. Consider this. Bermuda, with a pop. of 70k, won its only gold medal ever at these games. China, with a pop. of roughly 1.4 billion, would have to win 20,000(!) gold medals at the Tokyo games to match them per capita. There are only 332 events. China having a hard time would be one thing, but that it's a mathematical IMPOSSIBILITY should be a warning sign that per capita comparisons are fundamentally flawed in this case. If Bermuda somehow had 1.4 billion people to draw from but retained the same sleepy island culture it wouldn't win 20,000 medals (mathematically impossible).
Nations are restricted in amount of athletes they can send, such that Americans on a bad day could not qualify for US Olympics team but on good day could win a medal. If every event didn’t have nationality restrictions and people on qualified on merit/time, the US would have 50x more athletes in and would win nearly that much more. You see this by virtue of the fact that tiny European nations that are less than 5% of the US population have about 30% of the athletes as the US. Or put another way, if all 50 US states were separate countries, instead of about 500-600 athletes from the US, you’d have 7000-8000 athletes if you added up how many each of the 50 states would get as separate countries. Furthermore, with a limited amount of events and law of diminishing return, it’s impossible for a huge nation to win per capita. If New Zealand won one gold medal, China could win every other event in the Olympics and still be behind in per capita. Not to mention that per capita is not how we rate best nations in sports. In ⚽, Uruguay is clearly the best nation per capita, but they aren’t considered the best; Argentina now or Brazil all time because they are current world champions or have won the most all time are considered the best at ⚽
@greenconcrete-z8m well true there should be a cap in the amount of athletes tht cud join
@greenconcrete-z8m but wht wud u say abt india tho it has a large population but less medals and athletes
If the US is not winning any medals or dominating in the sport, that sport will barely be seen on american TV and if it is broadcast, it will only be during the Olympics & very brief.
Which is kind of ironic, because it only makes it more likely that the US will not win medals and the cycle continues.
Bro it's basically same with every country. They will forecast shows in which their country is most likely to win a medal.
Sometimes they will broadcast sports that look spectacular, even if the US won't win. Diving looks much more exciting than a marathon.
@@MsJubjubbird Diving is poorly commercialized (global scale), very predictable, and isn't an Olympic pride event like marathon, so of course it's not often broadcasted.
@@cocoroni1031 they often show the finals because it's quick and it looks spectacular. The marathon is really only broadcast in the final stages because no one is going to tune into people running for a whole 2-3 hours. They'll usually just switch over to it for a couple of minutes for updates
Handball that you knew of growing up is the same that I learned. We had leagues at our local YMCA. I’d hang out and watch.
I loved playing that game! So much nostalgia for me, sounds like for you too
Interestingly enough that's one of the 6 sports that were invented and are a part of the Gaelic Athletic Association here in Ireland. It is one of the least played sports here but its funny that it's popular in America and Canada
As a track fan, honorable mentions to Bob Schul and Billy Mills winning both the 5000m and 10000m in 1964. The only US gold medals. And RIP Bob Schul who just passed away last month. Got an honorable mention at the olympic trials.
RIP Bob Schul, I hadn't heard he'd pass
Excellent video. Loved the part with the handball and badminton.
Thank you, glad you liked it!
Surprised to hear about field hockey! It's a super common sport for girls in high school here. Not sure why we lag behind compared to other women's team sports.
It's quite unfortunate for sure, super popular here in Canada too. North America is a VERY long way behind Europe, that's for sure
The handball I played in school is like totally different game 😂
LOL same here, but I wish we had played this version, it's awesome
@@voxathletica Looks like a lot of fun!
It is fun to play. I played indoor handball 35 years ago. The overall gameplay has not changed much. Some rules have changed to make it even faster.
They will win Table tennis when they stop calling it ping pong
So, never is what you're saying?
@@voxathletica They can give it a try.
@@evanskyule I'm with you, but doesn't seem likely
Ping-pong was a name created by an English firm: J Jaques and Son. Trademarked in the USA by Parker Brothers. // The game was invented in England, so don't complain about the names, since the ENGLISH created the game!
Congrats, the US just won 😂
Trampoline looks like such a fun sport.
They go so high, it's wild to watch!
Great list for sure 👏 I was really happy to see three of our favourite and popular athletes here in Egypt on this video in handball at 07:25 those three are very loved and celebrated . BTW handball is a very popular sport in North Africa ( Algeria ,Tunisia , Egypt) ,specially Egypt and Japan as well ..We have it here almost in every school since 1997 when two Egyptian sportsmen changed the world of Egyptian sport here by introducing it to youth .
I noted that Egypt has a very strong and proud tradition of Handball while researching this video. Of the 12 nations in Men's Handball in Paris, I believe 2 were regional qualifiers from Asia and the Americas, 9 were from Europe, and then there was Egypt. Amazing stuff!
@@voxathletica Very true you should check out how Egyptian handball team has fared and its results throughout Olympic games and handball world Cup since 1997 .Specially in Rio 2016, Tokyo 2020 Paris 2024, and best of all World Cup 2021 and our historical Semi-Final match against Denamark the Vikings of the game now with their legendary Danish Dragon as a Captain Mikkel Hansen (he was born in 1987and still rocks !) . We missed some historical medals by a point or two 😥 and we have a lot of professional women handballers in Europe as well ,though our national women team is sadly not that strong for a reason or two...
Unbelievable that USA never win any gold medal for trampoline in the Olympic because trampoline was originated from USA ! 😂😂😂
For sure! And they're so good at gymnastics as a country, it really shocked me
@@voxathletica But Canada won gold in both trampoline and rhythmic gymnastics, doesn't that kinda count. They are close right, LOL, just kidding!!!
@@ctalcantara1700 We're basically America's hat, close enough lol
@@voxathletica LOL! Y'all also won a gold in Men's Soccer , which the US has not won.
@@ctalcantara1700and México too got a gold in 2012 olympics a great surprise 🎉🇲🇽
The crazy thing is, in football the US women's team is one of the best in the world and they have won gold medals (and World Cups), but on the male side they are not even close, and I don't see the gap closing any time soon.
Great list!
US football/soccer is probably the wildest case of the women absolutely dominating the men in terms of international performance. I could do a video on just that topic alone, it's insane
I heard that title nine has a lot to do with it. since there were no female american football teams on colleges, they gave a lot of scolarships to womens soccer
Women football is still developing in most other countries. They will be more competitive and can beat USWNT in the future.
@lamelists it's actually pretty simple bro. Most countries are severely undeveloped when it comes to the female side of the sport so there's not much competition for the women but that's changing and other countries are catching up fast
Well, Spain are world cup reigning champions and they have the last 2 ballon d'or in the national team, so yeah, Europe its catching up really fast. The thing is there is nothing like college sports and their money in Europe, and that helped a lot to develop women football in the US way quicker. But with the Women Champions League gaining level year by year and European clubs getting more involved every year, they will dominate eventually like in men.
the usa handball player shown in the video is named Gary Hines. really cool dude, who plays in germany and has competed on american ninja warrior
Wow, all around legend
Allow me to introduce you to the Olympic Event known as the Modern Pentathlon.
First introduced into Olympic competition in Stockholm in 1912, it was set up with 5 events in which military officers had to master in case they found themselves behind enemy lines and had to return to their own lines.
For the Olympics the event was dominated by European military Officers up till the 1936 games in Berlin won by a German Luftwaffe offices. With an American coming in 2nd to claim the Silver medal.
In the 1912 Olympics a Lt. George S. Patton competed for the USA, coming in 4th, just a narrow margin out of 3rd place.
The competition is as follows; an officer finds himself behind enemy lines and he must use 5 different specialities to escape/evade capture.
The 1st event is usually FENCING. All contestants use the same type us "sword" in a round-robin competition.
(so now the officer is free, and he must "steal" a horse to start back to his own lines)
All contestants choose a horse by "pot luck" one that they have NEVER ridden before. There is a time element for Riding the horse over the same course that is no less than 5 kilometers.
This event is NOT show jumping, but includes Riding over fences, hedges and at least one water obstacle.
The next event is SHOOTING. All must use the same type of handgun, in this competition. Shooting at a target no less than 50 meters distance.
Next is the SWIMMING competition. Again on a timed competition over a course of no less than 2,000 meters.
Finally there is the RUNNING competition on a course of no less than 3 kilometers. Again your running against the clock, and not against any other competitor.
In scoring the competition the lower the score the better your place, like golf and cross country.
I hope this has cleared up this Olympic event.
Appreciate the introduction!
Speaking of its army background , Paris 2024 champion Gold medalist Ahmed elGendy أحمد الجندي with an Olympic record of 1555 points and he is also the World Champion in it , who competes with his brother Moh.ElGendy he won World bronze ;both has the surname of elGendy الجندي which translates into army office/soldier in Arabic (Egyptian dialect ) I think both were born to it 😄 Ahmed has degree in engineering BTW 😸 his fiancée and her sister play pentathlin too and one of them got a Bronze world medal in it in mixed teams
Surprisingly the only sport that USA will almost never overcome India in Number of gold medals is hockey
India has 8 gold medals in hockey in which they won 6 consecutive gold medals
all that gold coming in the years of 1928 to 1980 its was unreal domination 8 gold 1 silver and 2 bronze
only one time in that 52 years they failed to win a medal 😮
Yes, it seems highly unlikely at this point that the US will win even a single medal in that event, at least not in the near future. So winning 8 seems darn near impossible to me!
I remember back in Panamerican Games 2011 USA beat Argentina in the final of women's hockey which gave the USA a ticket to London 2012 and Argentina (a World powerhouse) had to walk another path to qualify. But in London Argentina went on to win silver and USA did not make it past the group stage; it defeated Argentina in the group stage match, though. In Rio 2016 USA had a stunning first round winning all matches but one (beating Argentina again) but it lost to Germany in the knockout stage
So maybe USA field hockey has more of a chance than we think?
The trampoline one is PARTICULARLY odd, because Canada is for some reason in second place all time on the trampoline medal tables. While China is FAR ahead, it’s weird to see Canada and not the US winning medals.
Strange indeed, do you have any idea what the explanation is of the relative performance of Canada and the US?
@@voxathletica my only real hypothesis is that in 2000 when trampoline debut as an Olympic sport Canada won bronze in both the men’s and women’s competition. So from the start Canada has been relatively successful and thus Canadian children have been privy to Olympic medalists in trampoline at EVERY Olympics it has existed in.
@@niallgyulay6849 That makes some sense for sure, success inspires success. I wonder if it's a dam ready to burst and, once the first US gymnast breaks through, the floodgates will open for other American gymnasts
Considering how big the USA are and the technology they have spread throughout the states, I'm not that surprised they have so many medals. If I were to sum up the populations of European countries to match the USA's one (333 million people), it would be UK, France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined. These five countries number of Olympic medals in total would be 3364 medals (UK 938, France 785, Germany 663, Italy 630 and Spain 348). Anyway, this comment was just to show how envious I am. lol
LOL don't be envious! The US has the perfect blend of population size, technology, money, infrastructure, and culture to become a sporting powerhouse. Hard to replicate that elsewhere!
if you include every historical version of Germany, Germany has 1821, of those 922 as GER(1896-1952 & since 1992), 137 as EUA(1956-1964), 243 as FRG (1968-1988) and 519 as GDR(1968-1988).
the per capita argument is invalid since rules artificially cap how many athletes nations can send, plus there's a finite number of events. It'd be as meaningless as tracking goals per capita in a game and concluding Brazilians suck at soccer because they only beat Honduras 4-1 instead of 40-1. It's still 11 v 11 on the field and there's a time limit. Per capita comparisons are for open ended stats like GDP, not constrained ones.
The difference is that medal tables are counting something tangible. "Fair" or not, those medals really exist and represent events that really happened. By contrast per capita comparisons are artificial constructs that ignore Olympic rules and nature, and have no connection to reality. They're fallacious and meaningless.
And yes the cap on athletes each nation can send will logically impact medals. We can see the likely empirical impact with split German teams going from a combined 142 medals in 1988 to 82 with a unified team in 1992. That may be as close to a controlled experiment as we can get.
Number restrictions make a huge difference and the limitation of only having a finite number of medals to win is an even bigger factor. Consider this. Bermuda, with a pop. of 70k, won its only gold medal ever at these games. China, with a pop. of roughly 1.4 billion, would have to win 20,000(!) gold medals at the Tokyo games to match them per capita. There are only 332 events. China having a hard time would be one thing, but that it's a mathematical IMPOSSIBILITY should be a warning sign that per capita comparisons are fundamentally flawed in this case. If Bermuda somehow had 1.4 billion people to draw from but retained the same sleepy island culture it wouldn't win 20,000 medals (mathematically impossible).
Nations are restricted in amount of athletes they can send, such that Americans on a bad day could not qualify for US Olympics team but on good day could win a medal. If every event didn’t have nationality restrictions and people on qualified on merit/time, the US would have 50x more athletes in and would win nearly that much more. You see this by virtue of the fact that tiny European nations that are less than 5% of the US population have about 30% of the athletes as the US. Or put another way, if all 50 US states were separate countries, instead of about 500-600 athletes from the US, you’d have 7000-8000 athletes if you added up how many each of the 50 states would get as separate countries. Furthermore, with a limited amount of events and law of diminishing return, it’s impossible for a huge nation to win per capita. If New Zealand won one gold medal, China could win every other event in the Olympics and still be behind in per capita. Not to mention that per capita is not how we rate best nations in sports. In , Uruguay is clearly the best nation per capita, but they aren’t considered the best; Argentina now or Brazil all time because they are current world champions or have won the most all time are considered the best at
100% agree, the per capita alone doesn’t make sense, that’s why I specifically mentioned the technology available in the USA and the way it is spread all over its area. Anyway, the Olympic trials in the USA are the most difficult to win because of the high level of the competition. This is also due to its big population and the richness of the country that allow everyone to access good technology to train. So, I hope we can agree on the fact that when we want to look at the success of a nation in the Olympics it’s important to consider both the population and the technology.
@@ludovicobiamonti7276I always like the statistic when they show Robert Griffin III’s 100m time in high school would’ve almost put him in the finals in the Olympics. Not even the Olympic trials but the track & field high school championships in Texas, California, Florida and maybe Georgia to rivals the finals in a good amount of countries. These kids really are that good.
I'm America and I really enjoy handball. I fell in love with the Rio 2016 Men's German team and have followed them in Euros and World Championships since, and of course Olympics.
Handball is fantastic, I really wish it would become bigger in North America!
Best handball teams historically are France, Spain, Denmark, Croatia, Sweden
A honourable mention to Egypt please ,the only team outside Europe that has been one of the big five or six in it many times both in Olympics and World cup .We have had a draw with France in Paris2024, and lost to Spain by only one point 😥..
Here in Australia handball is the schoolyard game four square
Another amazing variant!
Or it's how the ball is passed by hand in Australian Rules Football (Aussie Rules, AFL etc)
@@Mhjeffrey027running TRUE!
A guy by the name of George Patton participated for the US in the Modern Pentathlon in 1912.
He was a heck of a shot!
When it comes to racket sports, ping pong and badminton are types of sports American players rarely won in those events outside the Olympics.
Another commenter pointed out that table tennis especially is something that is growing rapidly in the US due to increased immigration from Asian countries. So maybe the US sucks today, but it seems like there is a growing potential for future strength
@@voxathleticathe talent pool in China is SOOOOOOOOO big. It's honestly hard to imagine any other country taking gold in the next 3 Olympics. There's a few active players who are good enough to win gold, from Brazil, Germany, and Japan, and France, specifically, but even then, 4 of the 5 top players are currently Chinese.
@@voxathleticaThe US has won badminton gold in the world championship (not olympics) way back in 2005.
Mens double pair consisting of
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Bach
And en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Gunawan who is naturalised citizen and ex Olympics gold medallist.
As bach moved to the US aged 2, arguably at least the US system has produced half a pair with an outside but decent shot, although that was 20 years back.
Table tennis is far and away the most popular sport in the country that until this year was the world's most populous. Unless an elite Chinese player emigrates to the US mid-career and qualifies for citizenship, the US is never winning a gold in table tennis, and probably never even medalling.
As far as I know about which race of an American likes sports, Asian Americans like ping pong and badminton. Whites and blacks prefer baseball and football. Almost all races in the US like basketball.
You need to call hockey hockey and ice hockey ice hockey before you can hope to win a medal in hockey. Seriously, hockey is very popular in India and Pakistan. The entry bar is quite high therefore. Any Western country that wants to be competitive needs to have a good selection process and high-level training program to reach or exceed the level of play in India. It's also a sport where you need to build a team and train together for years because many things happen so fast that you need to have blind trust in each other.
I think that, right there, really highlights the cultural differences when it comes to "hockey". One country calls it one thing, another calls it another. It perfectly outlines why one part of the world is good at it and another isn't
Norway has about 135k active hanball players men and women, with the national team for women bringing home gold multiple times.
With a pop of +350m US should have 5 times that registered players.
Totally agree. I don't want to say Norway is better and smarter than the US, but I'm not NOT saying that either
That’s like saying China should be able to find 11 good soccer players. Unless a sport has a culture in your country it’s hard to get anywhere especially in team sports.
Nice lists. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that the majority of these sports are not a part of our collegiate sports system which means we don't have a way to develop these types of athletes. Only Field Hockey (this might be women only) and some parts of the modern pentathlon are college sports. Field Hockey is the only one that surprises me.
Agree with you completely, the NCAA is the minor leagues of the Olympics for America. If it ain't there in quantity, it won't be at the Olympics for the USA
I’ve been binging your videos, really enjoying them! Trampoline was the most surprising for me on this list. I’ll bet we see a US gold this year
Thanks for checking out the videos on the channel, much appreciated! Yeah trampoline was a surprising one for me too, the US is so good at gymnastics across the board that I figured they had won one by now. Paris 2024 could well be their year, we'll see!
I’m Canadian. I played competitive Handball when I was younger. It’s just not that popular in North America. Too bad. It’s an awesome game to both play and watch.
It's such a shame it's not more popular in North America, it's a fantastic sport
badminton is wicked fun
Couldn't agree more
Canadian here, we played olympic style handball in gym class, never heard of the ball slapping one
Damn, how did we have such different Canadian upbringings lol
@@voxathletica I'm a west coast kid, I assume you're more towards the Atlantic?
@@A_Baguette_ Yeah, Ontario
Humble bragging time. The first gold in rhythmic gymnastics was won by a Canadian, Lori Fung 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
As a fellow Canadian, I approve that humble brag
Rhythmic gymnastics is not a growing sport. It is definitely a question of if we ever win
Well there is strong momentum to start having a men's competition in the sport, so I'd call that growing the sport
you forgot rugby sevens, new addition the past two olympics and the only gold medallists have been Australia, Fiji, and New Zealand.
I didn't forget it, I deliberately didn't include some the events that only just got added to the games. It didn't seem fair to include them since there's only been a single iteration of them. A few folks have brought this up, so in hindsight I should have just said this right in the video, but I'll know for next time
The US just won a bronze medal in women's rugby after they upset Australia. So a gold medal for them in the future may be even closer than we thought.
@@bstm6911 Congrats to the US women's team!
7:18, are you talking about wall ball?
Yep, it seems to go by a bunch of names, but that's one of them
I thought forrest won a medal in table tennis????
Sadly no, must have been a World Championships or something because Table Tennis didn't make it to the Olympics until 1988. That said, as it's a fictional movie, we can pretend it was the Olympics lol
I heard he was a good long distance runner too 😉😅
@@SueP-D Dude would have been a monster Olympian, that's for sure!
Favorite wrestler of all time
Which one is your favorite?
Karlin Soviet Union /Russia , Mijian Lòpez Cuba 5 Olympics medalist and Karam Gaber Egypt who brought Greco-Roman wrestling back to the Olympics
I don't know that it's that impressive that the 3rd most populous, and easily the country that invests the most in Olympic sport, is the most successful. There's smaller countries that do really well that I think is much more impressive, like Jamaica, Australia and New Zealand.
For sure, on a per capita basis, the US isn't all that impressive. Combine a huge population with tons of money, a culture focused on winning, and world class infrastructure and Olympic success is basically inevitable
the per capita argument is invalid since rules artificially cap how many athletes nations can send, plus there's a finite number of events. It'd be as meaningless as tracking goals per capita in a game and concluding Brazilians suck at soccer because they only beat Honduras 4-1 instead of 40-1. It's still 11 v 11 on the field and there's a time limit. Per capita comparisons are for open ended stats like GDP, not constrained ones.
The difference is that medal tables are counting something tangible. "Fair" or not, those medals really exist and represent events that really happened. By contrast per capita comparisons are artificial constructs that ignore Olympic rules and nature, and have no connection to reality. They're fallacious and meaningless.
And yes the cap on athletes each nation can send will logically impact medals. We can see the likely empirical impact with split German teams going from a combined 142 medals in 1988 to 82 with a unified team in 1992. That may be as close to a controlled experiment as we can get.
Number restrictions make a huge difference and the limitation of only having a finite number of medals to win is an even bigger factor. Consider this. Bermuda, with a pop. of 70k, won its only gold medal ever at these games. China, with a pop. of roughly 1.4 billion, would have to win 20,000(!) gold medals at the Tokyo games to match them per capita. There are only 332 events. China having a hard time would be one thing, but that it's a mathematical IMPOSSIBILITY should be a warning sign that per capita comparisons are fundamentally flawed in this case. If Bermuda somehow had 1.4 billion people to draw from but retained the same sleepy island culture it wouldn't win 20,000 medals (mathematically impossible).
Nations are restricted in amount of athletes they can send, such that Americans on a bad day could not qualify for US Olympics team but on good day could win a medal. If every event didn’t have nationality restrictions and people on qualified on merit/time, the US would have 50x more athletes in and would win nearly that much more. You see this by virtue of the fact that tiny European nations that are less than 5% of the US population have about 30% of the athletes as the US. Or put another way, if all 50 US states were separate countries, instead of about 500-600 athletes from the US, you’d have 7000-8000 athletes if you added up how many each of the 50 states would get as separate countries. Furthermore, with a limited amount of events and law of diminishing return, it’s impossible for a huge nation to win per capita. If New Zealand won one gold medal, China could win every other event in the Olympics and still be behind in per capita. Not to mention that per capita is not how we rate best nations in sports. In , Uruguay is clearly the best nation per capita, but they aren’t considered the best; Argentina now or Brazil all time because they are current world champions or have won the most all time are considered the best at
and what are you talking about, the US is the only country that DOESN'T put government money into their Olympic team
@@AW-zk5qb ya US sport is awful badly funded, get a grip. Doesn't have to be government funding, the US does well, but there are other countries who's achievements are more impressive
@@AW-zk5qb a true American doesn't want to lose 😂 here's your gold medal in the comment section copy pasting event 🥇 Please don't bomb my country 🙏 USA! USA! USA!
Excellent. Can you do a winter version?
I'll see what I can do, appreciate the suggestion!
“The US can get 1 or 2 great athletes from a population of 340 millions”
Yeah but the sport is really popular in China, India, and Indonesia with a total population of more than 3 billions people.
For sure, and that's why they haven't medaled in those events yet. But the US can provide way more money, coaching, training, and infrastructure to make up the current gap. Olympic athletes aren't just born, they're made, and they're primarily made with those tools. And no country on earth can match the US in those regards, so if they ever wanted to catch up, they would
@@voxathletica more money and better infrastructures than India and Indonesia, sure. But I highly doubt they can match China’s resources in badminton.
@@voxathletica The truly American way would be to offer the best Chinese, Indian, and Indonesian players a ton of money to switch federations and play for USA
Remarkably the US has won gold medals in rugby. Albeit back in 1920 and 1924. They got a bronze in Women’s 7s in Paris so they’re not a million miles away despite not being one of the traditional rugby nations.
Absolutely, there is definitely hope on the horizon for the US in rugby 7s. The women proved that they are in the hunt, and being on their home turf in 2028, who knows what could happen!
As for hockey, handball and rhythm gymnastics ....I would say the USA still has a looooong way to get any medal, since the USA can't even beat the best teams in its Panamerican region; Argentina dominates hockey with only Canada and Chile giving some competiton on the men's side and USA battling with Chile for a 2nd place with women. Brazil and Mexico teams domimate rhythm gymnastics with the USA teams always getting 3rd or 2nd at best. Argentina and Brazil dominates handball with the USA rarely making it to the semifinais in any Panamerican competition. Heck, The USA can't even with titles in the North-Carribean division.
The potential is there, but I'd say the lack of popularity of those sports among Americans avoid talents to be discovered and improved
Yup, some of these I could see the US breaking through sometime soon (trampoline for example), but others will require more of a culture shift that seems a long way off
The issue is money. If you have talent for trampoline or rhythmic gym, your going to have the same skills to succeed in artistic gym, where, if successful, you will never have to work again after retirement and all your training will be sponsored. If you have the talent for handball, why play that when you can make millions playing basketball? And why play field.hockey when you can learn to skate and play ice.hickey for way more money?
about rhythmic gymmastcis the worst part the best americna gymansts still have no chanche against the best eurpean gymnast
btw we fans still ask ourselves how Zeng was able to wi the elegance prize in 2019 ...
@@juditsomi4287 the requirements are similar- strength, low centre of graity flexibility. Now if you're strong, a good tumbler and flexible in the US, artistic is far more lucrative than trampolining or rhythmic. A lot of countries will redirect their artistic gymnasts into other gymnastic sports if they aren't going to make the artistic squad. The entire Chinese aerial ski team are redirected gymnasts and they dominate. Likewise with their divers and trampoliners and also Romanian aerobic athletes. Handball and basketball require similar skills- hand eye coordination, good at sprints, some sort of height. Sometimes you hear of athletes that could have been professionals in 2 or more ball sports. Now if was in the US, I could play basketball and never work again once my career is over and potentially have all my training paid for, or handball and be scrimping for funding and have to work as an assistant sports teacher until retirement
Great video. Let's not forget that other countries like my own are shite when you consider our history and investment in sporting events. Rugby, football(soccer) and cricket were all invented by England and the dough put into these sports by us Brits is amazing. We've never dominated for love nor money! Great video would be how tiny West Indian nations zig it up in track and field!
American gymnastics only began to take off in the 90s, and our men's team has never reached the same level of success as the women's team. We structed our program to match the success of the USSR ans Romania. I'm not surprised we haven't medalled in a male element.
Well given the relative success of the women's program, and the expanding interest in men's gymnastics, it stands to reason the US eventually puts some hardware on the wall there
@@voxathletica I'm not saying we'll never medal, but it does make sense that we haven't.
Thanks for the informative video! The US only has one top level Badminton athlete at the moment and that’s Beiwen Zhang in the women’s singles who was born and trained in China before emigrating. She has only a puncher’s chance of medaling this year.
Worse yet, the sport is lacking in finance and frankly popular interest in the US, as it is almost played exclusively by Asian-Americans!
Glad you liked it! Yeah things are looking grim for the US in badminton, it will take a generation at minimum to get going there and that's only if some more budget and infrastructure are added to support it.
So as a Dane - I think you might have forgotten us just a bit in some of these wonderful comments you came with. Denmark has a great history in both badminton AND handball and has won gold in both of these events. And one of the favorites to win in both of these in Paris even.
With that said: I think it´s just a matter of time before the US manges to really break into any of these. With a huge population of some 300 million I think the chances are there for some of these in the future - depending on if the US is willing to put in the time and energy it takes to make it to the top.
No shade to Denmark, I had another Dane bring that up too and I promise it was nothing personal or intentional! Huge respect to Denmark's Olympic tradition, which is way more accomplished than people realize.
And yes, you said it right: if the US puts in the time and energy (and money and infrastructure), they will win, full stop. At least eventually. Some could happen soon (trampoline for example), so would take time (table tennis for sure), but it would be inevitable if the US committed to it.
Let's go Axelsen ! Denmark is impressive as hell
Mikkel Hansen rules but our Ibrahim elMasry (Egypt) cand handle the Danish Dragon to a dgree 😉...I am really glad that Scandinavian countries are making a come back in handball ❤🌷🙏
Badminton and Handball both have similar issues, one that perhaps applies slightly less to Rhythmic Gymnastics and field hockey: the athletes who would be best suited for those sports get pulled into other events. Instead of handball, Americans go into basketball; badminton gets replaced by tennis or volleyball. IN North America, field hockey is replaced by ice hockey or la crosse, a non-Olympic sport that if added would be dominated by the US and Canada.
With rhythmic gymnastics there's the prevalence of artistic gymnastics, and some history of active suppression of the sport due to its connection to the Turners movement, a German social and philosophical practice that was accused of being anti-religious and was deemed highly suspicious due to its somewhat nebulous but definitely extant connections with socialism and European Nationalism.
With respect to Modern Pentathlon, George Patton, yes, that George Patton, probably should have won a medal in 1912. In the shooting event, contestants fired five shots at a single paper target. When his was retrieved, the judges counted four holes, and scored a zero-point miss, rather than the more likely conclusion that he had put two shots through one hole, which some contemporaneous observers claimed to be over-sized. This miss dropped him to fifth in the scoring and out of the medals.
Thanks for the insightful and detailed reply. I didn't know that about Patton, cool story!
You do not need to be super tall to perform well in handball. Handball s biggest "market" is Europe where basketball is also important. Athletes from both sports have different attributes.
@@ahfei6847 A quick search brought me to an article stating that the Dutch handball team is becoming known for running a small lineup by international standards. Another search revealed that the average height on the roster is 1.9m, 6' 3" to those of us who use American units. You get a 15-year-old in the US who's over 6 ft and can handle a ball and coaches are going to think basketball guard or small forward, not "We've got to build a handball team around this kid."
@@basher20 1,90 is tall compared to the average man, but it also means about half of handball players are below the 1,90 mark which is still pretty short compared to the average basketball player. I mean short enough to be overlooked by bball scouts
Rhythmic gymnastics is my favorite obscure sport.
What do you like about it?
@@voxathletica I like to watch the fluttering of the ribbons. I also like to see the female holding onto the ball while doing a graceful backflip.
@@gwillis01 I don't know how they pull off some of the moves they do, it's incredible!
@@voxathletica It's amazing what you can do if you practice consistently every week from the age of five to the age of sixteen.
Why do the handballers look so epic in their still pics.
Because it's an epic sport! I have no clue why it's not more popular in the US (and here in Canada too)
They are epic athletes in real life as well as ut is a very challenging game , my brother 's friend used to play it and he explained it to me in the 1980's on paper when I was a child ,, most Egyptians didn't care about it back then till 1997 junior World Cup which we won here and it was never the same again for Egyptians ,changing a whole generation of youth. BTW tose three athletes in the epic still photo at 07:25 are Egyptians (wearing white ) but not the shooter ,I think he is Spanish .
check this point by Egyptian Ahmed Adel
Race Walking. USA has won 4 medals in history, zero gold. USA is now so bad, even the best Americans couldn't secure an invitation to participate in the Olympics.
Another great example, thanks!
Finally watched handball coverage today, and yes, I truly think that sport has a hard time catching one at least partly due to name confusion... My whole family only knew of the one played against a wall ... Very different games...
Yep, I was a ball against the wall handball guy too. It seems trivial, and it's not up to handball to change the name, but it could be where some of the confusion comes from. It's not a good excuse at all, but it could be at least a contributing factor.
@@voxathleticaIts funny. Because in Europe nobody knows that the ball-against-wall-handball exists. There isn't even a different name for it either. Wikipedia just lists it as "American Handball".
So in field hockey specifically it’s notorious that the Americans are bad at it. It’s the same with football, that the culture just isn’t there to start from an early age. The Netherlands is really successful in the sport, because people there start to practice and train in the sport from 6 years old. No American sports have that kind of dedication
The Netherlands treats field hockey the way the USA treats American Football and Canadians treat hockey. It's more like religion than sports
@@voxathletica I wouldn’t say the same, because I don’t see American kids start playing American Football at a club at 6
@@gameandflogchannel You need to spend more time in East Texas then lol
The US is dedication to sports they like look at Basketball there are other sports also I mention Basketball because so many other country's play it.
That last part is not true about American sports. In swimming many of the greatest swimmers in the US start swimming as early as around 4-6 years old some older but many of the best in the US start around the same time as many in Europe begin doing field hockey
And now we can add to this list Breaking
A few of the newer sports can go on this list, for the next Olympics there's going to be quite a few more!
It always bugged me that the only Olympic sports they would play on TV were those the US dominates in.
Right? Hard to create exposure for other global sports if they're never shown to people
In 1984, my parents, my cousin and I saw the gold and bronze medal game for team handball at the Great Western Forum. I was 12 1/2 years old.
I bet that was awesome! Do you still live in LA? Can you go to the 2028 games when they come back?
Hey question here- how were you able to get footage?
Which footage specifically?
@@voxathletica Olympic? I am trying to use some but I don't want to be banned
@@nilechristensen728 I gotcha. Yeah, it's tough, the IOC doesn't mess around with their material. Short clips and be careful with your sources is my best tip
@@voxathletica okay thanks - where do you personally source from?
Has Netball ever appeared in any Olympics?
No unfortunately not!
My sister was both a field hockey player and a badmiton player in high school and I, being younger, would wait for her practices to end and walk home w/ her (saftey in numbers -- Mother). Well, at one point, both her teams were in need of players to help bump the numbers up for practice and I would volunteer and step in as a fill-in player -- those girls were mean w/ those hockey sticks to the shins. Her badmiton team was also in need of fill-in players, so I would jump in there as well and got pretty good, so I asked if I could join the team, because it was non-contact sport, but the other players were really upset that a boy would be competing against them and the coach nixed it. Tough games, both.
I appreciate you dropping in that story to the comments, I love hearing about these personal experiences from viewers, it really hammers home how we all have a connection to Olympic events no matter how professional or amateur you are. And it's great you played both, gives a better appreciation for how tough they are!
well GB have taken golds in the first three of these events (though the trampoline only happened after this video was posted), we share their pain with the rest of these events though. I don't think we've ever even competed with rhythmic gymnastics and handball except in our home games in 2012, and we came dead last when we did compete in the rhythmic gymnastics in 2012.
Perhaps the future holds better days ahead in those events, but for stuff like Table Tennis I think it's a losing battle sadly
Will be interesting to see a winter list.
Definitely, there are some interesting ones on the list for sure!
I think is just ski jumping.
@@Mr1888888888 There's a bit more than that, eventually I'll do the full video!
Didn't Jim Thorpe win the Pentathlon or is that different than the Modern Pentathlon
He did win the pentathlon, but it was a different format than the one we have today. Good catch though! I actually have a video coming out next week on Jim Thorpe, dude was such a beast I decided he deserved his own video
FYI Patton was close to Silver Medal but they claimed that he missed a target. He went from second to fifth. You can look it up it happened in 1912. If I remember correctly.
Someone else pointed that out, I had NO IDEA. I wish I had known that earlier, I probably would have made a whole video on it alone
He would have won the gold, but insisted on using his Army sidearm in the shooting competition instead of the precision pistol the Olympics provided, finished last in the shooting portion, and dropped to fifth overall.
@@scottblish766 thanks for the information. I know there was something that went on. Do you know why they didn't fight to over turn the out come????
I didn’t even know they had men’s field hockey. Kinda reminds me of when I found out there was men’s soccer
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Football or as you call it North America(soccer) has been the most popular game for millions in Central & South America , Europe ,Africa and even a few countries in Asia ,specially Arab countries with Japan & S.Korea ..It has been mingling with politics , billions & billions of US $ and Euroes , people lost their lives because of it , nation changed history because of it even Black Magic was there sometimes ..Fifa world cup, Eufa and CAF competitions are watched and loved by millions around the globe except in North -America and some countries in Asia like India & China !!..Almost every single man in South America , Africa and Europe at least has been affected by football once in his life ..We call it the 'Round Witch'
Is your mic broken or my headset
See the pinned comment, it's on my end
Nothing like a humble, well researched, unrealistic posting.
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Australia is just waiting for him to recognise him for our hockey
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@@voxathletica Australia is amazing in hockey but you don’t mention them when talking about hockey powerhouses
You put Break on the timestomp coincidentally there is Breaking now in olympics
Serendipity! On a related note, I actually have a Breaking video coming out tomorrow (Wednesday) night, let's see what folks think of that one lol
I remember the table tennis event tickets sold out very quickly in Atlanta and I wanted to go so bad since I played when I was younger. I am so disappointed the US has never one a medal
That would have been awesome to see live. I actually had the good fortune to see a Baseball game live in Atlanta during the 1996 Olympics, I'll never forget it!
has the usa ever won the mens epee event in fencing?
I know the USA has won 4 fencing gold medals overall across all disciplines, but not sure on the specifics
I was expecting Judo and Greco-Roman Wrestling to appear here, but the U.S. actually won gold in each during the Olympics.
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I know, surprising! The USA has been very good and so many sports, it's a short list where they've struggled
Technically USA also has not won a gold medal in climbing but it has only been introduced in the Tokyo Olympics
Absolutely true, I didn't bother with a few of the brand new events as every country in the world other than one, by definition, hasn't won one yet lol
Modern pentathlon is getting rid of the equestrian aspect after these games for some sort of obstacle course, so I think that might help open the event to more Americans and improve the US' chances in the future.
In general, it will be interesting to see the impact of this change. Will it be a big deal or not so much? Time will tell
Dont you ever say Denmark isnt a force in handball buddy
I didn't say that?
@@voxathletica my bad, sounded like it ig
Surprised by your interpretation of handball because thats actually Gaelic Handball which I honestly thought was just known in Ireland. Shocked to hear that it was a thing in the US.
I'm in Canada, so it stretches even further it seems!
I would like to see this same topic but for the Winter Games.
I fully intend on doing one, but probably not until we get closer to the next winter Olympics. Hopefully you can stick with me and be patient until then!
Gaelic handball is from Ireland, and is a completely different sport from the Belgian one with the same name.
Seems like there are more than a few versions of handball around the world
@@voxathletica I think the one popular in North America (particularly New York) is essentially the same one popular here. Ninh Ly has a video about it, which you might find interesting.
@@qwertyTRiG Thanks, I'll try to check it out!
I wish the IOC should give the Olympic trophy like FIFA world cup to countries those who are top at the medal table at each olympics
That's an interesting idea, I don't think that aligns with their official policy about using the games to unite nations. Or maybe there's a way to do it that still aligns?
You would have to make it relative to population size to make it a sport
Us will probably never win a men’s field hockey gold. I don’t know a single man who has ever played the sport and it is looked at as a women’s only sport and a regional sport at that.
The US is definitely a very long way behind the rest of the world. And you pretty much highlighted the cultural bias against it that is holding it back, definitely agree it's seen as a women's sport in the US (and here in Canada too for what it's worth)
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Good one! I'm already pretty loaded with content through the Paris 2024 games for Olympic stuff, but I just put it on my ideas list and if I can squeeze it in, I'll give it a go
My grandpa played handball every week at a club in San Francisco most of his life. It was 2 guys slamming a ball against a wall openhanded. 🤔
Yep, that's what I played in the schoolyard too!
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@@voxathletica apparently 🤪
Good video!!!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Modern Penthatlon is quite surprising given the huge military and sports tradition in the US. Trampoline is easier to explain. It is quite new. Rhythmic gymnastics is a European thing, same with Handball.
Yeah it's curious as the US is pretty strong in the individual disciplines of the modern pentathlon, but just haven't been able to put the whole thing together
@@voxathletica i think specialization is the main thing. Pentathletes tend to only compete in their events and not try to try their luck in separate events. It has been dominated by Europeans.
We just won Fencing 🤺 and medaled in Rugby 🏉 We haven't medaled in skateboarding yet 🛹
And, somehow, just won table tennis!
Your commentary is hilarious. Thanks
Hopefully it's hilarious as in funny and entertaining, not hilarious as in "I can't believe it could be this bad" lol 👍
When did USA win a gold medal in Rugby/Rugby Sevens? Hard to imagine them getting a medal in it, but big respect to them if it happened!
They have not won it! But I didn't include it deliberately as it's only been at a single Olympics, so it didn't seem fair to hit them with that as a gap in the gold medal table.
Also, the USA did win rugby gold in back to back years in 1920 and 1924, so they do have rugby gold still
bro we need that badminton medal im dying out here playing it all my life
USA got that table tennis gold, maybe badminton is coming soon?!
I have checked and USA has won gold in all of these competitions in the Pan-American Games* (yes, even field hockey and trampoline). Of course, it's a much lower level of competition and only the Americas compete. But still.
*except rhythmic gymnastics which is not part of the event
The USA has the money, people, and infrastructure to win in any of these events of they really wanted to. It all comes down to priorities and focus and spending
What about rugby sevens? Or Skateboarding?
I didn't include any of the new or nearly new events, didn't seem fair since they've only had 1 time through the Olympic games
Funny in Handball you mention a lot of countries but not Norway or Denmark that are two of the biggest winners the last 20 years together with France or Badminton where Denmark have won quite a few gold medals as well
No slight intended at all! A few folks brought up my omission of Denmark already, and now I feel bad, it wasn't meant to be an insult
@@voxathletica Hey, cant mention everybody, its just that Denmark is like one of the winningst teams from the last 20 years, with 5 OL gold medals between the mens and womens teams
@@clawbergable Totally, it's my bad for sure, much love to Denmark!
Here's my take:
1. Field hockey - USA has a chance (very small) but I'm not sure they're going to do it in the next 4 olympics. I think they'd medal before on this sport.
2. Modern penthatlon - USA medaled on this one before, honestly they can do it and get the gold maybe in between 2 or 3 edition.
3. Trampoline - This is shocking for sure, honestly with the way China is performing right now I'm not so sure about USA's chance. Maybe silver or bronze is possible!
4. Rhytmic gymnastic - I'm not sure about this one because USA in general are relying on strength not artistic nor fluidity but who knows maybe after the next 5 editions?
4. Table tennis - It's unlikely for USA to medal on this one, even after the next 25 years I'm not sure about even silver or bronze. Asian players (China) are the goat and some european players are very good.
4. Handball - It's close to nothing because in the last 4 or 5 editions did USA ever qualify? The sport doesn't even seems to evolve in the country.
6. Badminton - I'm not reaching for the stars on this one but I believe USA can win at least silver or bronze in the next 3 or 4 editions. There are some decent players but unfortunately the country need a top 5 ranking (men or women) material at least to be considered as competition.
Thanks for leaving your thoughts! Our views generally align. Table tennis, badminton and handball seem the furthest off to me, field hockey not far behind. The two gymnastics ones feel like a matter of when, not if, the US eventually wins gold
I appreciate you checking out the video!
How do you mention handball and badminton without mentioning Denmark 😭
A few others brought that up, no offense was intended to the good people of Denmark!
The trampoline 😂
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Currently the highest ranked american badminton player is Beiwen Zhang but she needs to work very hard to win an olympic medal. Tai Tzu Ying, Chen Yufei, An Se Young, Carolina Marin separates her from the olympic podium.
Yup, tough sledding ahead in badminton for the USA