If they would of rebranded it as an arcade/sim with a new name it wouldn't of been as much backlash. They took away pit stops, tire, damage but kept telling people it's going to be a "sim". So when it launched people were rightfully mad with a bad physics arcade style game.
That's pretty much what I thought too. Just like how the Dirt series did the opposite, and made a spin off of a more simulator game with the "Dirt Rally" series
Only someone living on the dark side of the moon was unaware at launch that it wasn’t a total reboot as an arcade game. It’s the fkn 21st century, for pete’s sake! It was WEEKS before launch the SMS dropped the shoe. Anyone that expected a pad friendly arcade game to be not massively nerfed for wheel is mental! And the name? Who cares?! If it was still a great sim but they changed the name to Go F*ck Yourself Racing, who would have complained?
Slim Jordan Then you are brainwashed. What something is called has no relation to what it IS. Are you seriously telling me that you give a rats about corporate branding? Don’t let advertising influence you, or the bastards have won... If the world’s best hardcore sim came out, and was called Mario Kart X, sim players would buy it. Because there’s only ONE thing we care about...
The problem is, Jeff, that when it comes to turning all the mobile game HUD off and going into custom races; is that youre basically playing 60 dollars to play PCars2 with worse graphics and handling. Calling this a 'sim' is like calling Ace Combat a flight sim like Xplane or DCS. Yes, it technically simulates the deeper physics of flying, but to two completely different levels.
@@damiandarnay4852 I'm 16 and i play x-plane 11 flying across the world learning different planes, spending over 1000$ in this hobby If you consider this game your hobby we consider flight simming a hobby as well why criticize other people's hobby and call them paralyzed? this is dumb af, Imho i think you're paralyzed by ignorance right now and a utter garbage ego.
I wanted to try to work out all the changes in comparison to Project Cars 2. Now correct me if im wrong but from what I can tell: Project Cars 2 with all the DLC has 234 cars. Project Cars 3 has 211 cars, 12 extra with the season pass bringing the total to 223 cars. Project Cars 2 with all the DLC has 153 tracks. Project Cars 3 has 122 tracks, apparently more are comming with free updates. With Project Cars 3 we have: Worse physics Worse visuals Worse audio No rallycross No karting No Ice tracks No mechanical damage No pit stops No fuel usage No tyre wear No opposite lock assist No manual engine start No rules and penalties options No custom multiclass race options No manual cooldown lap or rolling start No race engineer or spotter options No cycling the hud during gameplay Custom weather slots reduced from 4 to 2 Off/Low/High assists now just on/off Removed tuning options: Tyre compound Front/Rear duct opening Handbrake pressure Weight jacker Caster angle Steering ratio Bump stop Bump transition Rebound transition Fuel load Boost pressure Air restrictor Radiator opening Engine braking Custom gear ratios for each gear Traction control strength ABS strength Longitudinal/Lateral weight bias merged into just weight bias Slow/Fast Bump/Rebound merged into just Bump/Rebound Front/Centre/Rear Differential Options: Spool Geared LSD Bias ratio power Bias ratio coast Clutch LSD Preload Clutches Power ramp Coast ramp Viscous LSD Viscous lock Ratcheting Power balance All merged into Differential Power/Coast/Preload Removed photo mode options: Focal length Bokeh shape Tracking speed Contrast Saturation Let me know if im missing anything.
SIM racing among gamers. The word makes me laugh! Tweaking a rebound and then maybe lowering the car 0,5 centimeters. That makes a feeling about SIM that has nothing with reality to do. Do you really think that games like F1 and project cars have anything with the real engineers work to do anyway?? It is a slightly mad simulating a simulating. What you guys here seem to forget is that racing is and should totally most be about driving and the feel behind the wheels. About that PC3 is a candy store. Never done better in any racing game. Cars, tracks, weather, super entertaing races plus online racing. But let it be said. Use ONLY helmet view, set it to between 83 and 88 degrees in options and there you go. Driving with a rear view as many reviewvers do, have NOTHING TO DO WITH SIM ANYWAY!!! :) Just try this. Between practising and the races it is much more short loading times than PC 2, so you can actually quickly compare the cars before you choose which car to drive. PC 2 which many "sim racers" accepted was WAY too odd in the way cars reacted compared to teh feel of real cars on the racetracks. Forget the tyre pressure. Drive!! Then Slightly MAD can later add pit stops if someone enjoy sitting there thinking about strategy. Well to those, i could also recommend a game of chess:)
Johannes Ostenfeld-Rosenthal nope only improvement from PC2 to 3 was they fixed rumble strip physics. I fixed every car in PC2 so that wasn’t the problem. This game gets rid of too much while barely adding anything along with this shit career mode. If you want to pay $60 for PC2 with less stuff then go ahead.
I’m not defending the game. Or getting into the argument of sim vs simcade vs arcade. End of the day they’re all games and remember when people use to play them to have fun.
I really love this game, despite the controversy it had years ago. if it we're to be given a different name like "Project SHIFT" because it would've made more sense since it felt more like a successor to the shift series and might've received better than what it got from the reviews. I won't deny the very fact that it's handling model is smooth and satisfying and has really good support for the gamepad from my experience But also the removal of pit stops along with fuel and tire management wasn't a good idea, but atleast the drivng overall felt great Car selection is good along with tracks from PC2 "PC2 already having a solid track selection" now in PC3. It's a good racer on it's own, but for Project CARS? i don't think so, it's not really like a full-on sim more or so leaning towards to the sim-cadish side of things but still delivers a good driving experience in my opinion, just really unfortunate it got alot of backlash + the removal of both PC1 and PC2 because EA does what it does best to ruin games. And it might even remove PC3 from steam. It's a sad end, but oh well, glad it happened.
“Not an arcade racer” as he put two tires in the dirt with the throttle floored and it literally does nothing to the car. Here’s what I would say, it is completely without question an arcade racer. When you have multiple professional sim drivers saying this in honest reviews, you cannot argue it. But for me, the handling is the least of my issue with PC3. The reason we are upset is releasing this game as it is should be taken as an insult. How could any person look at this as a finish project in comparison to PC1 and PC2 and feel like it is an improvement in any way. The AI worst, the car models are worst, the graphics are worst, the track models are worst, I’m honestly just waiting to see PC3 show up on the Apple App Store, b/c that is the only reason I can imagine them going this direction. $60... for what exactly? I’m suppose to pay $60 and accept all of this as a “new direction”. I’m not doing that, and saying that you have to buy and try a game before you can make an honest opinion is ridiculous. The strongest voice you have is your dollar, because clearly no developer cares about reviews or opinions. Stop letting developers make money off bad games.
After the whole community roasted this title, I bought Project Cars 3 on SALE a few weeks ago, for my PC. And honestly I'm really really enjoy this game.
Sorry Jeff but it does... as a sim racer its trash. And I am not sure what makes you say PC3 is somehow ok. I would say its your lack of experiance with sims. You play many different games.
@@hesto PC3 is not a simracer. You might be a simracer. Doesn't mean you can not like the game. I am a simracer and I like Forza Horizon series but those are arcaderacer. And PC3 is one too. You can like it, thats not an issue of course. Just don't sell it like its a simracer...
I don't get what people are bitching about. Is it Sim vs. Forza? Because I love Forza and Project Cars 2 was kinda boring unless you have some kind of 70k racing rig. But even then, I want the career and progression earning money, buying cars, and being able to upgrade my cars while also having a realistic racing experience. Is that arcade?
i bought the game from your review, ive seen so much hate for this game i love project cars 2, but the progress in that game is really not enjoyable if you ask me. i love the take Project cars 3 does at this, sure there is no pitstop and fuel such, but for rookies like me that race for 16 rounds in project cars 2 that is no issue at all. at the moment.
Thanks for this review and insight! Compared to the other reviews that have flooded TH-cam recently, you have provided an open-minded and refreshing demonstration to PC3. I still have some concerns but at least hopefully the developers will address them quickly. This could lead me into trying out PC3. Thanks Jeff.
Truth is, I've personally been dying for a simcade like the main gran turismo series, and nfs shift. I really am enjoying this game so far, but at the same time i sympathize with the hardcore pcars fanbase, since I know what it is like for a game's franchise to make a crazy change in a bad direction (gran turismo sport, cod advanced warfare, and black ops 4, to name a few)
I’m glad you made this video. I was never worried about the arcade style UI I was more concerned with the actual physics and driving style. I kind of like the idea of having to race for money to buy and upgrade cars kind of brings back the old Forza Motorsport 4 vibes (my all time favorite racer). I personally love the new menu was never really a fan of PC and PC2 car and track selection screen.
I just picked it up on sale. One thing I hate is a stupid red crash effect and weird noise in cockpit view. Did you trun this off, is there a way to remove this? Always liked PC 2. Thanks
I agree:) SIM racing among gamers. The word makes me laugh! Tweaking a rebound and then maybe lowering the car 0,5 centimeters. That makes a feeling about SIM that has nothing with reality to do. Do you really think that games like F1 and project cars have anything with the real engineers work to do anyway?? It is a slightly mad simulating a simulating. What you guys here seem to forget is that racing is and should totally most be about driving and the feel behind the wheels. About that PC3 is a candy store. Never done better in any racing game. Cars, tracks, weather, super entertaing races plus online racing. But let it be said. Use ONLY helmet view, set it to between 83 and 88 degrees in options and there you go. Driving with a rear view as many reviewvers do, have NOTHING TO DO WITH SIM ANYWAY!!! :) Just try this. Between practising and the races it is much more short loading times than PC 2, so you can actually quickly compare the cars before you choose which car to drive. PC 2 which many "sim racers" accepted was WAY too odd in the way cars reacted compared to teh feel of real cars on the racetracks. Forget the tyre pressure. Drive!! Then Slightly MAD can later add pit stops if someone enjoy sitting there thinking about strategy. Well to those, i could also recommend a game of chess:)
I was scrolling through the Project Cars Reviews on TH-cam and came across your channel! I didn’t relieve you also did gaming. You got a new subscriber!
Agreed, if upgraded and tuned correctly many cars feel great and realistic. It's not a hardcore sim but it is very far from an arcade racer. I liked PC1 and 2, got them at release, but I've had more fun and put more time into PC3 than both of those games combined.
EVO FTW lol sorry but favorite car and cool to see the Tommi Macken Edition of the Evo 6. Great episode as always brother. Sorry been MIA for the past month. Continue the great content man.
What I love about PC2 versus say Assetto Corsa Competizione or something similar, is that I can completely chuck a car into turns and drive as fast as I WISH I could on AC or ACC. This game actually looks pretty fun to me, especially for online.
My biggest problem with it is no pits I love using pit strategy so not being able to use pit strategy in a longer race is no for me even gran turismo has pits tire wear and fuel available
I like this game due to its accessibility(guided career mode, I didn't know what to do with 2.) It seems dramatically better for a more casual player like me. I don't know enough about cars to pick the right car for a track or know whats beyond my skill level just from looking at it. What I hated is that I was forced to play the game for an hour before I could access the options menu. I play in VR and it picked the wrong defaults, performance was sub 30fps, blurry, and all around ugly.. this whole 'throw the player right into the game' trend needs to die. It guarantees a bad first impression and risks making a VR player sick which will only result in people getting a STEAM refund.
great job with video. as always he leaves you enough to determine whether its a title for you or not. which i love. the guy is hands down one if the best gamers on youtube. i think his ats and lspdfr content is really top shelf. keep up the good work Jeff . im a loyal suscriber.
This is a juicy racing car driving game with good feedback that delivers. To compare it to Grid (like some try) , is to be completely naive. Grid 2019 is a sweet little arcade racer that holds it's own for fast thrill drive set best set to 280 360 degrees on a wheel. Project CARS 3 is an accessable track racing simulator (that needed patching but) delivers a perfect entry level to sim-racing experience that needs 540-900 and up degrees on a ffb wheel to really sink your teeth into it. I think it will gradually grow a following, and may even be missed and called upon by it's haters in the coming years (like some movies and games that mature well). I like it and can't tell all that much difference in the car handling between PC2 and 3 (even though it is noticably more forgiving in it's handling).
It's not a pure distilled sim like PC2 or AC, it's more on the simcade side. It's basically a better version of GRID, Driveclub or NFS Shift, so a middle ground between sim and arcade. I personally play it on a controller and I enjoy it a lot. I don't know why people hate on it so much, it's might just be the sim crowd has a stick up it's butt. Fact is, it's a good game, and I want emphasize the word game, because it's fun and not overly complicated, if you like super realistic racing, there's other options, just don't expect everything to meet your standards. If someone doesn't like this game, it doesn't mean it sucks, it might just not be for them. Ppl need to chill 🤷🏻♂️
Loving Pcars3. Agree 100%. Its fun. Good on controller and wheel. Custom lobbies and scheduled events online are awesome. SMS needs to work on net code and some graphical issues. We do need to see the return of qualifying in custom lobbies.
How is it a SIM if you don't even have a pit lane anymore? I very much enjoyed being down in positions in undercut range going into the pits in the rain coming out on slicks finding the dry line and driving my ass off. If I wanted to play Forza I'd play Forza
I really like it... I didn't play the previous games, but to me the physics are good, the sense of the progression is there, and upgrades and tuning are there as well.
MAJOR MAJOR ISSUE... when driving, the black boarder around the screen that turns RED when you crash, that is TRASH, and hassssss to go.. it breaks immersion.. Pcars3 has Potential, but does need some minor adjustments
Honestly.. for me I loved the first one as I worked at Cadwell Park and it was nice to finally see that track in a game. But then the second project cars came out and made my home circuit worse than the first game. Really pissed me off so I hated the second game. This one actually looks better so think I'll give it a shot. I just hope cadwell has improved.
The thing with any newer driving game is, that they are too complicated, too much stuff, and not "simple" as where is career, split screens when playing with friends, or multiplayer is shitty. things like these makes them that kind off that you dont want to play that much. "loading screen, start game, loading, career, loading, continue, what challenge you drive, loading, and after 5min, you can drive".
Let's remove 24HR Lemans to further prove why this game is awesome.....and let's reward the drivers in career mode with no trophies. Hell let's make the game truely superb by blurring photo mode when you try to use the zoom-in feature . Oh yeah this game doesn't suck at all
Damnit, Jeff. I really wanted to dislike this game based off of what I have seen/heard. But you made some good points and did a good job showing how to make the game more sim-like. Well done, sir.
Tried the first two games, and regretted both purchases never purchased another game I couldn't stand so quickly. Graphics are great but the driving experience did not meet my expectations. Lots love it I'm not one of them. I'll not buy another project cars again.
@@soulofcinder2007 I much prefer Assetto Corsa Competizione or even the original Assetto Corsa. I'll be honest, outside of the cart track I have no racing experience with production cars, but just something about the physics in Project Cars completely put me off. I wanted to love it, but I guess its just not for me.
Alan Moulton oh then you won’t like pc 3 then haha. It’s not trying to be a sim like 1 and 2 but more half sim half arcade. I personally think it’s fun but that’s just me.
The problem with this game is, everyone in the actual Sim racing Community just like project cars 2 was promised a true Sim and when you tell people you're going to give them a true Sim and then give them this piece of garbage arcade game that's why everybody says it sucks I'm sure it's okay for children but don't Market it to sim Racers if it's not a Sim. I'm part of that community and I can tell you that they lost their ass on this game because it looks like a cash grab. Me and a ton of other people in the community will never buy another slightly mad studios game ever again. But when greed is your objective Karma is a Mofo
They should add a setting that switches from "arcade" which should be default because new players and non-sim drivers need that. Then that should tab over to "realism" and it turns off all those settings at once. Having to manually do it is not good for people.
I still don't understand why you call it a sim. Yeah I can see it has a few sim elements in driving physics, but removing qualifying, tyre wear, etc is not okay if you (SMS) are planning on promoting it as "all the sim you need". 100cr for a custom setup? what a joke. No Spa, Circuit de la Sarthe ( le mans), COTA, Zandvoort...and you're saying "all the tracks we love are here". And not even addressing the downgrade in graphics and sound and charging the same price? If they say it's a spiritual successor to shift 2, why would you release it in an already established franchise. Defending PC3 is fine, but people who are criticizing it are not doing it blindly. They have valid reasons. So when you defend it you should address 'em first.
thank you for making this video, it just annoys me when something new comes out and ppl just start judging. cmon guys.... it still feels the same to me... i honestly dont see or feel the differnce. its just because they changed the visuals some.
Watching you play and explain everything about pc3 has really got me considering picking up the game because every review I've seen they just bash on the game going as far as saying that it doesn't even deserve the project cars name and yes I know that pit stops and dynamic weather/time isn't a thing right now (hopefully it's coming in future updates or dlc) but this game looks really interesting and really want to try it out
Yeah I mean you get 20 something new cars, updated lightning and other bells and whistles. You also get a arcady career if you are into that sort of thing like the Horizon series. People love to hate, I just disagree and think it is fantastic as it is for me.
You should get ahold of a "Clixbeetle GT" for your TH8A. SimRacingGarage did a review. It gives you a good tactile feedback for "H" pattern shifting. It is made in Australia, so it will take a while. I have one on mine and it is much better and the price is good.
I was surprised this game came out so fast. I had pre-ordered it like 3 months ago or so? Didn't think it wasn't supposed to be out till November or December. Looks like Forza a bit.
There is so much been removed in the transition from PC2 -> PC3. @SMS - I don't care if it's a sim or an arcade racer - just lie to me about it. Sorry Jeff, it's not a sim. Not by a long shot, that's not to say it's not fun - it was just very misrepresented massively in the marketing. This practice is illegal in most countries, and yet, it seems SMS are getting away with it.
If they would of rebranded it as an arcade/sim with a new name it wouldn't of been as much backlash. They took away pit stops, tire, damage but kept telling people it's going to be a "sim". So when it launched people were rightfully mad with a bad physics arcade style game.
Totally agree, this game is a hot mess, it would've not been if it was rebranded and market as more of an arcade game.
That's pretty much what I thought too. Just like how the Dirt series did the opposite, and made a spin off of a more simulator game with the "Dirt Rally" series
Only someone living on the dark side of the moon was unaware at launch that it wasn’t a total reboot as an arcade game. It’s the fkn 21st century, for pete’s sake! It was WEEKS before launch the SMS dropped the shoe. Anyone that expected a pad friendly arcade game to be not massively nerfed for wheel is mental! And the name? Who cares?! If it was still a great sim but they changed the name to Go F*ck Yourself Racing, who would have complained?
That's the only issue I have with the game. The name. If it was called ANYTHING ELSE, we would've loved it.
Slim Jordan Then you are brainwashed. What something is called has no relation to what it IS. Are you seriously telling me that you give a rats about corporate branding? Don’t let advertising influence you, or the bastards have won...
If the world’s best hardcore sim came out, and was called Mario Kart X, sim players would buy it. Because there’s only ONE thing we care about...
The problem is, Jeff, that when it comes to turning all the mobile game HUD off and going into custom races; is that youre basically playing 60 dollars to play PCars2 with worse graphics and handling.
Calling this a 'sim' is like calling Ace Combat a flight sim like Xplane or DCS. Yes, it technically simulates the deeper physics of flying, but to two completely different levels.
champion, realize that the simulators are only played by a pair of paralyzed old men, they are boring as reality.
Yea this game is a hot mess. Could have been so much better, what a shame.
@@damiandarnay4852 I'm 16, not paralyzed, and play xplane 11. Wutchu sayin?? 🤷♂️
Jeff Is probably getting paid to not voice his actual opinion about PCars3.
@@damiandarnay4852 I'm 16 and i play x-plane 11 flying across the world learning different planes, spending over 1000$ in this hobby If you consider this game your hobby we consider flight simming a hobby as well why criticize other people's hobby and call them paralyzed? this is dumb af, Imho i think you're paralyzed by ignorance right now and a utter garbage ego.
I wanted to try to work out all the changes in comparison to Project Cars 2. Now correct me if im wrong but from what I can tell:
Project Cars 2 with all the DLC has 234 cars.
Project Cars 3 has 211 cars, 12 extra with the season pass bringing the total to 223 cars.
Project Cars 2 with all the DLC has 153 tracks.
Project Cars 3 has 122 tracks, apparently more are comming with free updates.
With Project Cars 3 we have:
Worse physics
Worse visuals
Worse audio
No rallycross
No karting
No Ice tracks
No mechanical damage
No pit stops
No fuel usage
No tyre wear
No opposite lock assist
No manual engine start
No rules and penalties options
No custom multiclass race options
No manual cooldown lap or rolling start
No race engineer or spotter options
No cycling the hud during gameplay
Custom weather slots reduced from 4 to 2
Off/Low/High assists now just on/off
Removed tuning options:
Tyre compound
Front/Rear duct opening
Handbrake pressure
Weight jacker
Caster angle
Steering ratio
Bump stop
Bump transition
Rebound transition
Fuel load
Boost pressure
Air restrictor
Radiator opening
Engine braking
Custom gear ratios for each gear
Traction control strength
ABS strength
Longitudinal/Lateral weight bias merged into just weight bias
Slow/Fast Bump/Rebound merged into just Bump/Rebound
Front/Centre/Rear Differential Options:
Spool
Geared LSD
Bias ratio power
Bias ratio coast
Clutch LSD
Preload
Clutches
Power ramp
Coast ramp
Viscous LSD
Viscous lock
Ratcheting
Power balance
All merged into Differential Power/Coast/Preload
Removed photo mode options:
Focal length
Bokeh shape
Tracking speed
Contrast
Saturation
Let me know if im missing anything.
Spot on. It's such a downgrade from PC2 that I don't know why anyone would buy it.
I wonder how much they paid Jeff for this BS "review?"
boohoo
dblvision agreed. What a waste of time software. Loved pc2 bought the ultimate edition or whatever. Wouldn’t touch this one tho
Goku Kakorot Then Who tf is it for? Probably the people who can’t see the contempt the devs have for them.
Sim racing elitism and horrible marketing killed this game, which sucks because it’s actually a very fun game
Thank you. I feel like I am the only one who likes this game.
Oh I love the game man!
It's a cracking game. Haven't enjoyed a racer this much since MSR on the Dreamcast.
i got this game 2 weeks after it came out and I think it is one of the best racing games since the xbox 360 games
Same I love this game
Question is this game worth it
I'm sorry but how the hell can you say this game is a sim when there isn't even trye wear, fuel OR pit stops?
He getting payed to say that so they can get more people to try to buy the game Lol LOL 😆
SIM racing among gamers. The word makes me laugh! Tweaking a rebound and then maybe lowering the car 0,5 centimeters. That makes a feeling about SIM that has nothing with reality to do. Do you really think that games like F1 and project cars have anything with the real engineers work to do anyway?? It is a slightly mad simulating a simulating. What you guys here seem to forget is that racing is and should totally most be about driving and the feel behind the wheels. About that PC3 is a candy store. Never done better in any racing game. Cars, tracks, weather, super entertaing races plus online racing. But let it be said. Use ONLY helmet view, set it to between 83 and 88 degrees in options and there you go. Driving with a rear view as many reviewvers do, have NOTHING TO DO WITH SIM ANYWAY!!! :) Just try this. Between practising and the races it is much more short loading times than PC 2, so you can actually quickly compare the cars before you choose which car to drive. PC 2 which many "sim racers" accepted was WAY too odd in the way cars reacted compared to teh feel of real cars on the racetracks. Forget the tyre pressure. Drive!! Then Slightly MAD can later add pit stops if someone enjoy sitting there thinking about strategy. Well to those, i could also recommend a game of chess:)
Johannes Ostenfeld-Rosenthal nope only improvement from PC2 to 3 was they fixed rumble strip physics. I fixed every car in PC2 so that wasn’t the problem. This game gets rid of too much while barely adding anything along with this shit career mode. If you want to pay $60 for PC2 with less stuff then go ahead.
Johannes Ostenfeld-Rosenthal u don’t seem to have any clue what ur talking about
@@solbriller1 iracing is better than pc3. So is f1 2020.
It's not a bad racing game, it's just not a good Project CARS game
It’s more of an NFS Shift successor
Dumbest argument I have ever heard
Agree. They shouldn't named the game like it's predecessor
I’m not defending the game. Or getting into the argument of sim vs simcade vs arcade. End of the day they’re all games and remember when people use to play them to have fun.
I'll be sticking with Project Cars 2.
Same
what series do you like bc if you like GT racing I suggest ACC
I won't be
@@collinclary5762 I have ACC aswell.
Tristan _ and you still play project cars😂😂
I really love this game, despite the controversy it had years ago.
if it we're to be given a different name like "Project SHIFT"
because it would've made more sense since it felt more like a successor to the shift series
and might've received better than what it got from the reviews.
I won't deny the very fact that it's handling model is smooth and satisfying and has really good support for the gamepad from my experience
But also the removal of pit stops along with fuel and tire management wasn't a good idea, but atleast the drivng overall felt great
Car selection is good along with tracks from PC2 "PC2 already having a solid track selection" now in PC3.
It's a good racer on it's own, but for Project CARS? i don't think so, it's not really like a full-on sim more or so leaning towards to the sim-cadish side of things but still delivers a good driving experience in my opinion, just really unfortunate it got alot of backlash + the removal of both PC1 and PC2 because EA does what it does best to ruin games.
And it might even remove PC3 from steam.
It's a sad end, but oh well, glad it happened.
My man just made a manual of the game while explaining exactly the opposite of what everyone says. Legendary.
LoL I got a heart. Big whoop!
Yep and the sour lemmings are still whining in the comments lmao.
Sad day when you can’t make pit stop on this game like what the point
@Goku Kakorot I don't think he realizes he can pause the game to go pee and walk your dog.
@Goku Kakorot i rather play forza
Stop crying
“Not an arcade racer” as he put two tires in the dirt with the throttle floored and it literally does nothing to the car. Here’s what I would say, it is completely without question an arcade racer. When you have multiple professional sim drivers saying this in honest reviews, you cannot argue it. But for me, the handling is the least of my issue with PC3.
The reason we are upset is releasing this game as it is should be taken as an insult. How could any person look at this as a finish project in comparison to PC1 and PC2 and feel like it is an improvement in any way. The AI worst, the car models are worst, the graphics are worst, the track models are worst, I’m honestly just waiting to see PC3 show up on the Apple App Store, b/c that is the only reason I can imagine them going this direction. $60... for what exactly? I’m suppose to pay $60 and accept all of this as a “new direction”. I’m not doing that, and saying that you have to buy and try a game before you can make an honest opinion is ridiculous. The strongest voice you have is your dollar, because clearly no developer cares about reviews or opinions. Stop letting developers make money off bad games.
100%
boohoo
Idiot that has no idea what a sim is, typical.
@@sqlevolicious reid hardy or the youtuber
Jimmy Broadbent is not a professional sim driver buddy.
After the whole community roasted this title, I bought Project Cars 3 on SALE a few weeks ago, for my PC. And honestly I'm really really enjoy this game.
Glad to hear it!
Just appreciate this isnt a sponsored vid, just real opinion. Keep it up jeff!
Sorry Jeff but it does... as a sim racer its trash. And I am not sure what makes you say PC3 is somehow ok. I would say its your lack of experiance with sims. You play many different games.
nah I'm not a pessimistic person, being a sim racer doesn't make me any better.
@@jfavignano But he has a point.
I'm a simracer and I love PC3, what's your point?
@@hesto There is nothing 'Sim' like in PC3. Call yourself whatever you want.
@@hesto PC3 is not a simracer. You might be a simracer. Doesn't mean you can not like the game. I am a simracer and I like Forza Horizon series but those are arcaderacer. And PC3 is one too. You can like it, thats not an issue of course. Just don't sell it like its a simracer...
I don't get what people are bitching about. Is it Sim vs. Forza? Because I love Forza and Project Cars 2 was kinda boring unless you have some kind of 70k racing rig. But even then, I want the career and progression earning money, buying cars, and being able to upgrade my cars while also having a realistic racing experience. Is that arcade?
i bought the game from your review, ive seen so much hate for this game i love project cars 2, but the progress in that game is really not enjoyable if you ask me. i love the take Project cars 3 does at this, sure there is no pitstop and fuel such, but for rookies like me that race for 16 rounds in project cars 2 that is no issue at all. at the moment.
An unexpected video, but a welcome one.
This game is a lot better than the reviews. I got it on sale for $18. Money well spent.
Thanks for this review and insight! Compared to the other reviews that have flooded TH-cam recently, you have provided an open-minded and refreshing demonstration to PC3. I still have some concerns but at least hopefully the developers will address them quickly. This could lead me into trying out PC3. Thanks Jeff.
Love your vids man keep it up
Been playing this with T150 wheel with career. For me its been really fun, challenging with the wheel and I agree with jeff on this one!
Truth is, I've personally been dying for a simcade like the main gran turismo series, and nfs shift. I really am enjoying this game so far, but at the same time i sympathize with the hardcore pcars fanbase, since I know what it is like for a game's franchise to make a crazy change in a bad direction (gran turismo sport, cod advanced warfare, and black ops 4, to name a few)
Love your vids jeff
I totally agree with you from one sim racer to another, great great review
Do you unlock all cars at the beginning of the game?
I'm really enjoying PC3 so far though 😌
These videos never bore me thanks for making awesome videos Jeff
I’m glad you made this video. I was never worried about the arcade style UI I was more concerned with the actual physics and driving style. I kind of like the idea of having to race for money to buy and upgrade cars kind of brings back the old Forza Motorsport 4 vibes (my all time favorite racer). I personally love the new menu was never really a fan of PC and PC2 car and track selection screen.
I just picked it up on sale. One thing I hate is a stupid red crash effect and weird noise in cockpit view. Did you trun this off, is there a way to remove this? Always liked PC 2. Thanks
I agree:) SIM racing among gamers. The word makes me laugh! Tweaking a rebound and then maybe lowering the car 0,5 centimeters. That makes a feeling about SIM that has nothing with reality to do. Do you really think that games like F1 and project cars have anything with the real engineers work to do anyway?? It is a slightly mad simulating a simulating. What you guys here seem to forget is that racing is and should totally most be about driving and the feel behind the wheels. About that PC3 is a candy store. Never done better in any racing game. Cars, tracks, weather, super entertaing races plus online racing. But let it be said. Use ONLY helmet view, set it to between 83 and 88 degrees in options and there you go. Driving with a rear view as many reviewvers do, have NOTHING TO DO WITH SIM ANYWAY!!! :) Just try this. Between practising and the races it is much more short loading times than PC 2, so you can actually quickly compare the cars before you choose which car to drive. PC 2 which many "sim racers" accepted was WAY too odd in the way cars reacted compared to teh feel of real cars on the racetracks. Forget the tyre pressure. Drive!! Then Slightly MAD can later add pit stops if someone enjoy sitting there thinking about strategy. Well to those, i could also recommend a game of chess:)
Thanks for another awesome upload jeff!!
I love project cars 3. Fun factor is 100% on deck.
Amazing video Jeff keep up the work
i just love this game and love your vids man ❤😍💕
I was scrolling through the Project Cars Reviews on TH-cam and came across your channel! I didn’t relieve you also did gaming. You got a new subscriber!
welcome to the channel Aiden!
Agreed, if upgraded and tuned correctly many cars feel great and realistic. It's not a hardcore sim but it is very far from an arcade racer. I liked PC1 and 2, got them at release, but I've had more fun and put more time into PC3 than both of those games combined.
I really like Pcars3. Thanks for the positive vid by the way. 🤜👍
EVO FTW lol sorry but favorite car and cool to see the Tommi Macken Edition of the Evo 6. Great episode as always brother. Sorry been MIA for the past month. Continue the great content man.
Im in the poor house since building my new pc and i already owned 2. So i guess i will keep playing 2. Good review Jeff!
And thats why PC Elitist fail
@@Jellofreeze eh i enjoy my xbox too. Not a lot of sim type games for the consoles. To each his own.
What I love about PC2 versus say Assetto Corsa Competizione or something similar, is that I can completely chuck a car into turns and drive as fast as I WISH I could on AC or ACC. This game actually looks pretty fun to me, especially for online.
My biggest problem with it is no pits I love using pit strategy so not being able to use pit strategy in a longer race is no for me even gran turismo has pits tire wear and fuel available
I think you put it perfectly. It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks if you enjoy the game
I've been looking for an open minded overview of PC3 to help me make up my mind if I'm going to buy it or not. This did the trick, thank you.
Cockpits look awesome in this. and grass-trees and lighting are upgraded from PC 2.
Hey jef 2020 has been very very hard for me and my family. Anyway i wanted to say ur vids cheer me up and thank you so much.
I like this game due to its accessibility(guided career mode, I didn't know what to do with 2.) It seems dramatically better for a more casual player like me. I don't know enough about cars to pick the right car for a track or know whats beyond my skill level just from looking at it.
What I hated is that I was forced to play the game for an hour before I could access the options menu. I play in VR and it picked the wrong defaults, performance was sub 30fps, blurry, and all around ugly.. this whole 'throw the player right into the game' trend needs to die. It guarantees a bad first impression and risks making a VR player sick which will only result in people getting a STEAM refund.
great job with video. as always he leaves you enough to determine whether its a title for you or not. which i love. the guy is hands down one if the best gamers on youtube. i think his ats and lspdfr content is really top shelf. keep up the good work Jeff . im a loyal suscriber.
I agree man I just picked this game up on sale and man I missed out but not anymore. This is a very fun game
If you see this, have a wonderful day.
great video!!
6:40 there is a button assigned to turn of the HUD
Awsome content Jeff, very fair coverage as always my friend. I've never played Project Cars but i might just give it a shot. Thanks Jeff.
This is a juicy racing car driving game with good feedback that delivers.
To compare it to Grid (like some try) , is to be completely naive. Grid 2019 is a sweet little arcade racer that holds it's own for fast thrill drive set best set to 280 360 degrees on a wheel.
Project CARS 3 is an accessable track racing simulator (that needed patching but) delivers a perfect entry level to sim-racing experience that needs 540-900 and up degrees on a ffb wheel to really sink your teeth into it. I think it will gradually grow a following, and may even be missed and called upon by it's haters in the coming years (like some movies and games that mature well). I like it and can't tell all that much difference in the car handling between PC2 and 3 (even though it is noticably more forgiving in it's handling).
Good review jeff
Can you adjust the tire pressure,springs,shocks,balance and all that? ... then it’s not a sim.
It's not a pure distilled sim like PC2 or AC, it's more on the simcade side.
It's basically a better version of GRID, Driveclub or NFS Shift, so a middle ground between sim and arcade. I personally play it on a controller and I enjoy it a lot.
I don't know why people hate on it so much, it's might just be the sim crowd has a stick up it's butt. Fact is, it's a good game, and I want emphasize the word game, because it's fun and not overly complicated, if you like super realistic racing, there's other options, just don't expect everything to meet your standards.
If someone doesn't like this game, it doesn't mean it sucks, it might just not be for them. Ppl need to chill 🤷🏻♂️
what happened to your moving chair jeff thought that would be fun for this vid
I recorded this video before I got it
No tire wear = No sim. Let Asobo make a real racing simulator.
Loving Pcars3. Agree 100%. Its fun. Good on controller and wheel. Custom lobbies and scheduled events online are awesome. SMS needs to work on net code and some graphical issues. We do need to see the return of qualifying in custom lobbies.
11:31 I think there pretty fun and there’s a little bit of technique to it to get the most points
When he sayed the career mode was arcadey I totalled agreed 100%
How is it a SIM if you don't even have a pit lane anymore? I very much enjoyed being down in positions in undercut range going into the pits in the rain coming out on slicks finding the dry line and driving my ass off. If I wanted to play Forza I'd play Forza
I really like it... I didn't play the previous games, but to me the physics are good, the sense of the progression is there, and upgrades and tuning are there as well.
I think you do triple upload days
Can't make pit stops, no tyre wear, no fuel use, no damage only visual ...... it's NOT a sim. It's still fun though.
MAJOR MAJOR ISSUE... when driving, the black boarder around the screen that turns RED when you crash, that is TRASH, and hassssss to go.. it breaks immersion.. Pcars3 has Potential, but does need some minor adjustments
Jeff just wondering if you have tried ACC. Would love to see your opinions of that sim
I saw u stream this last night 😂😂
Jeff is this game worth buying ? Can anyone help me
If you want to chill sure. For mp better make sure to know few people who race otherwise you might end up racing alone.
Honestly.. for me I loved the first one as I worked at Cadwell Park and it was nice to finally see that track in a game. But then the second project cars came out and made my home circuit worse than the first game. Really pissed me off so I hated the second game. This one actually looks better so think I'll give it a shot. I just hope cadwell has improved.
Does it do one thing better than PC2?
I would love to see this as a series
The thing with any newer driving game is, that they are too complicated, too much stuff, and not "simple" as where is career, split screens when playing with friends, or multiplayer is shitty. things like these makes them that kind off that you dont want to play that much. "loading screen, start game, loading, career, loading, continue, what challenge you drive, loading, and after 5min, you can drive".
Let's remove 24HR Lemans to further prove why this game is awesome.....and let's reward the drivers in career mode with no trophies. Hell let's make the game truely superb by blurring photo mode when you try to use the zoom-in feature . Oh yeah this game doesn't suck at all
Just have a look at Ian Bell(end)’s twitter - Its almost laughable at how blatant he is with calling PC3 a great sequel to PC1 and PC2
Damnit, Jeff. I really wanted to dislike this game based off of what I have seen/heard. But you made some good points and did a good job showing how to make the game more sim-like.
Well done, sir.
This game is much worse than PC2 and they don't deserve your money because this game has less in it than the previous ones
It sucks alone for the point that you can't add AI to your Multiplayer Lobby while playing with friends.
Tried the first two games, and regretted both purchases never purchased another game I couldn't stand so quickly. Graphics are great but the driving experience did not meet my expectations. Lots love it I'm not one of them. I'll not buy another project cars again.
What driving experience are you looking for?
@@soulofcinder2007 I much prefer Assetto Corsa Competizione or even the original Assetto Corsa. I'll be honest, outside of the cart track I have no racing experience with production cars, but just something about the physics in Project Cars completely put me off. I wanted to love it, but I guess its just not for me.
Alan Moulton oh then you won’t like pc 3 then haha. It’s not trying to be a sim like 1 and 2 but more half sim half arcade. I personally think it’s fun but that’s just me.
I will rather call crew 2 more of a sim than this
Great racing game, btw you can turn off the HUD by one selected button
The problem with this game is, everyone in the actual Sim racing Community just like project cars 2 was promised a true Sim and when you tell people you're going to give them a true Sim and then give them this piece of garbage arcade game that's why everybody says it sucks I'm sure it's okay for children but don't Market it to sim Racers if it's not a Sim. I'm part of that community and I can tell you that they lost their ass on this game because it looks like a cash grab. Me and a ton of other people in the community will never buy another slightly mad studios game ever again. But when greed is your objective Karma is a Mofo
They should add a setting that switches from "arcade" which should be default because new players and non-sim drivers need that. Then that should tab over to "realism" and it turns off all those settings at once. Having to manually do it is not good for people.
I still don't understand why you call it a sim. Yeah I can see it has a few sim elements in driving physics, but removing qualifying, tyre wear, etc is not okay if you (SMS) are planning on promoting it as "all the sim you need". 100cr for a custom setup? what a joke. No Spa, Circuit de la Sarthe ( le mans), COTA, Zandvoort...and you're saying "all the tracks we love are here".
And not even addressing the downgrade in graphics and sound and charging the same price?
If they say it's a spiritual successor to shift 2, why would you release it in an already established franchise. Defending PC3 is fine, but people who are criticizing it are not doing it blindly. They have valid reasons. So when you defend it you should address 'em first.
It's an arcade racing game and it's fun... only this.
Wassup Jeff
thank you for making this video, it just annoys me when something new comes out and ppl just start judging. cmon guys.... it still feels the same to me... i honestly dont see or feel the differnce. its just because they changed the visuals some.
love it !!!
What’s up Jeff!
Watching you play and explain everything about pc3 has really got me considering picking up the game because every review I've seen they just bash on the game going as far as saying that it doesn't even deserve the project cars name and yes I know that pit stops and dynamic weather/time isn't a thing right now (hopefully it's coming in future updates or dlc) but this game looks really interesting and really want to try it out
Yeah I mean you get 20 something new cars, updated lightning and other bells and whistles. You also get a arcady career if you are into that sort of thing like the Horizon series. People love to hate, I just disagree and think it is fantastic as it is for me.
I've enjoyed playing it. I don't class it as an arcade racer but it is super suited to a controller! It plays like the latest Grid game tbh!
They updated the game today!!!
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You should get ahold of a "Clixbeetle GT" for your TH8A. SimRacingGarage did a review. It gives you a good tactile feedback for "H" pattern shifting. It is made in Australia, so it will take a while. I have one on mine and it is much better and the price is good.
A "Simcade". A blend of both arcade and simulation physics.
Thanks again for your big rig video in more work in big rig more places in big rig
I was surprised this game came out so fast. I had pre-ordered it like 3 months ago or so? Didn't think it wasn't supposed to be out till November or December. Looks like Forza a bit.
There is so much been removed in the transition from PC2 -> PC3.
@SMS - I don't care if it's a sim or an arcade racer - just lie to me about it.
Sorry Jeff, it's not a sim. Not by a long shot, that's not to say it's not fun - it was just very misrepresented massively in the marketing. This practice is illegal in most countries, and yet, it seems SMS are getting away with it.
So will we be seeing any multilayer with this game. Been watching the project car mp videos
BUG: Some of the objects like fences and lightpoles shine way too bright through the windshield banner.
I have that problem with the sun sometimes