No doubt, agreed . I kinda dissapointed to play , I don want those points ,EXP,etc... no time attack mode is a joke to me/// play on console tho, its graphics is a joke. and I already had issues of terrible bugs....
it is so amazing to see how big your channel has gotten! Been a fan for so long as you starting to talk has made it so much better! Love your videos and will keep watching!!!
My verdict would be like: It took MANY years for S.M.S. to understand that their approach to sim-racing was full of blatant mistakes on physics, tire model, car handling, etc., and it's now, after 6 games (including the Shifts and that infamous Test Drive: Ferrari Challenge) when they've realized fully on it, and went back to step 1; instead of starting again from step 14 failing the previous ones.
True the problem is need different name, like for example if fallout 4 have different name majority of us will accept that game because developer still take that name for sequel but have big different gameplay when of course we as player will think that game will keep the main core feature and provide new improvement
It seems like the production title pCARS:Revolution wasn't a well known thing! I remember seeing it on the forums ages ago and having a bad feeling way back when he said less sandbox and more streamlined fun.
"The lacks made me sad." Same, man. Same. As a beginner Sim racer, Project Cars 1 and 2 were the only one that able to teach me everything I need to know about racing in real life. I know that sound exaggerating, but that is how I felt for the series compared to Asseto Corsa.
I agree because project cars had a level of difficulty close to real life compared to that of assetto corsa(amazing game) but in terms of that immersion definitely pc2
I think the biggest problem of this game is the name. Because, underneath everything, it is a very fun racing *game* If this was called "Project RACER" with this NFS: Shift vibe, the backlash wouldn't be as big as it is.
@@kenjamago3977 Even if MW2012 had any other name, it's not a good game either. Imagine Burnout Paradise but it has all the fun sucked out dry, that's what MW2012 is.
In short: It's PC. But Forza-tized. Being a Forza Rival. Be ready for the Rammers. Luckily, I can Police the race (If I had a Police Rapid Response unit). Should've called it Project CARS Forza.
It is more like GRID 2019. Forza, both Motorsport and Horizon handle well, but they arent trying to be simulators. If they figured out how to do penalties and so on right they would have been the best simcades ever created. I consider FM7 and FH4 to be betatests for such systems. GRID on the other hand... well it looks ok, and sounds ok, but maybe some action game could get away with that.
The AI driving in clusters is priceless: I've never seen such a crazy behavior, in any game, since I've started playing sim oriented racing games in 1993. xD
The AI do cheats in this game, even if you force everyone to drive a identical car. They will take corners at unrealistic speed, as if they were on rails... PCars2 also had this problem.
Ai cheats with grip and brakes and if they drive fwd or 4wd cars they don't suffer understeer at all. Also if you set up an High aggressivity they try to overtake from very far away, cheating ever more, and going for a gap that doesn't exist, but in the end they never make you spin. Also, for some cars ai is completely off pace (both too fast and too slow), partially ruining class races.
Great video. I always love your video. Big fan of yours since I started sim racing. Real review which explains which particular part Project Cars 3 is not realistic without providing unnecessarily subjective words which other English native TH-camr does. I feel your honest opinion on the game since you liked Project Cars 2 and you've been uploading many Project Cars 2 videos. Highly agree on mistakes on the naming of the game. No tire wear however there is tire temperature and no pit stops... they should have left it for players to choose. Keep the great work. Thank you as always!
This game has actually nothing to do with Codemasters. The direction was chosen by SMS long before Codemasters entered the picture. Notice how Codemasters is _not_ the publisher! Also this game has worse graphics, worse weather effects, worse performance and less tracks than Project CARS 2. In my opinion they should have added tire flex, at least in a visual way (I always find it fascinating to see good suspension and tire flex systems), simplified the tuning much more, added all the content of PC 2, improved the A.I., removed the upgrade system (I mean it doesn't add anything, so what's the point), improved the visual customization, after all that's a pretty important part in many arcade games and changed the car classes. SMS took artistic freedom and oriented the classes on their performance index rating. In general they should have kept all the visuals and changed the physics. And of course also the abysmal marketing idiocy, but that doesn't change the game.
Viperconcept : "it isn't a disappointment" Also Viperconcept : "it's just different from our expectations" It looks like the definition of disappointment IMHO Though, I agree the choice to name it PC3 is greedy mistake
@@dorawings you're missing my point If you compare this to food, it's like if McDonald's stopped making hamburgers in order to make pizzas. The name and fame of trademark is still there but you won't get what you expected anymore. It doesn't matter how good the pizza is, some customers will be disappointed because it has changed. I disagree, it isn't "just a name", when you are making a sequel, the trademark has an image and some principles to the customer. It is pure greed IMHO because, the pure sim aspect was part of the DNA of the series.
I think that...generally, just because something doesn't follow our expectations, it doesn't mean it has to be a disappointment. It could be a really nice surprise instead! ^_^
What a wondeful review, after a while of not playing sim racing games I was looking forward to pc3(i played a decent amount of hours of pc2 and loved it) an then sudently everyone was bashing the game and i didn't understood why? No one explained and just rambled for minutes. Thanks for the insight, I will give it a chance since I mostly play with a controller
Good review, mate. Just not quite sure what you mean regarding it not having tyre deformation. It's present in the game, and was present even in the clip you showed. Moreover, you can actually feel it while driving, and see it in most replays. It's partly what contributes to the excessively 'bouncy' handling character of the game.
When I watch these reviews , it makes the game look bad. But I’ve been pretty addicted since early release . Good game to build cars and take it out on track in custom lobbies like forza Motorsport 4
Now THIS is a review. Not the Sarcastic BS Ermin came up with or the whiny mess Sim Racing Paddock did, just an unbiased review and analyzing the game for what it is (An arcade first, simulation second game) instead of a pure simulation. Just need to watch BlackPanthaa´s or KuruHS´s videos on this game to see what the demographic for this game is. Nicely done Viper, excellent video as always.
I agree, but he's not the only one to say that this game shouldn't have been called "Project Cars 3", because it's way too different from the two previous ones.
@@christophelemaire4551 I totally agree on that part, the game should have either been called ¨Project Cars¨ so it can be considered a reboot or just ¨Project Cars: **Insert anything here** so it can be considered a spinoff. But they probably just wanted to secure some sales with the name and it backfired.
True! Ermin sounded pissed mostly because he didn't get free stuff. SMS: **doesn't send him a free copy of PC3** Ermin: I'm gonna end those guys' whole career.
You are right! Totally different game and i LOVE IT because its SO MUCH FUN! I could drive no asists on highest lvl with my G29! Its something like Gran Turismo which I could not play on PC but now i can!
Jule Rulez Nope. GT Sport got tires and fuel and pits (optionally). GT Sport got tightly balanced car groups (mostly). GT Sport is pretty bug free. And GT Sport’s online community is 500X larger than this will ever be. If you like this, be glad you CAN’T play Gran Turismo! You’d hate it.
Whatever it's called, this game is the most fun racer I've ever played, and I've played a lot. I wont be playing GRID again because although this isn't as graphically impressive as GRID it's far more fun and immersive. It's a joy to play and doesn't deserve the hate.
It's getting hate because of the name. Project CARS stands for Project Community Assisted Racing Simulator, and this game spits in the faces of the backers and the fans of the first two games. In my opinion, it deserves every bit of the hate, because it's yet another corporation banking off the clout of past titles to try and squeeze every dollar they can out of the playerbase. Most of the content are direct ports from Project CARS 2 that both look and handle worse. I'm done with SMS, and definitely done with Codemasters, who recently bought out SMS.
Im not trying to say its not a fun game and that people cant enjoy it for what it is. I'm trying to explain why I feel the hate it's getting is justified.
@@Timothy27778 I know, but it sucks anyway, I can overtake them all in the first turn because they are super slow while turning, and I don't have to worry about damage on my car so I can even just crash on them and overtake everyone
The only review I'll take to heart x) But yeah, I think the game is good enough, but the name is why most people are disappointed or won't even try the game... It's kinda like what happened to NFS MW 12, the name was why people don't like the game, it isn't like the old Most Wanted but it's a good game anyway, just the title that upsets people.... But idk
I dunno about you guys, but I feel there is a new market emerging, the market of sim-arcade games that disguises themselves as sim games, for people that want to say that they play full sim games but they don't...
GTBKS Gran Turismo in my opinion is in a good spot when it comes to sim-arcade, it is the most “realistic” inside the category sim-arcade, but still is a sim-arcade.
They shouldve made this some kind of spin-off and they wouldve avoid most of the hate. This way this seems just massive cash grab but hey that you can except from Codemasters. After this and fast and furious crossroads slightly mad studios future doesen't look bright at all..
@@christophelemaire4551 Where's the fun in a game with awful AI that cheats, dive-bombs you, and goes from too hard to very easy without rhyme or reason?
Players: Project Cars 3 is bad! It's not a simulator! It's a basic Arcade game! Also Players: I love Forza Horizon 4! At least on PC3 we have REAL TRACKS and I think the driving style is better.
Wild spanish comment incoming alert: En mi opinión, si tuviera que elegir entre NFS Shift o este intento fallido de superar a Forza llamado Project CARS 3 Me quedo con Shift, PC3 no es un NFS Shift 3 maquillado ¿Por qué? La IA si ya en el 2 ya deja mucho que desear, el 3 ya te hacen trampas para dar una "sensación de dificultad" y más todavía cuando es muy difusa la diferencia entre clases. La interfaz de usuario, los menús, el sistema de personalización y mejoras y el modo carrera parecen sacados del Real Racing 3 mezclado con Forza Horizon 4, y la paleta de colores de los menús sacado del The Crew 2, dando la apariencia de (me disculpo si ofendo a alguien) de que PC3 es un juego completamente arcade, no un sim-cade. ¿Alguien se acuerda como era la IU en el Shift? Los daños, degaste y deformación de los coches y ciertas partes de los mismos son sólo visuales o no existen... Estaís de broma o se creen que podrían superar a Polyphony Digital en cuánto de cómo se ven los coches? o la gente que hizo el DriveClub? (F por DriveClub, a propósito). El sistema de penalizaciones casi propio del Real Racing 3 le acabas de declararles a los Rammers "!Yo Soy tu Perra! !Haz lo que tú quieras!" apenas los usuarios se acaben el modo carrera y quieran pasarme al multi que no tenga opción para crear lobbies cerrados y que no ande bien los servidores (especialmente en PS4), se terminó el juego y a otra cosa mariposa. Una de las ventajas de que tiene ahora la saga Forza es que al estar en el Xbox Game Pass y si tu estás suscrito a él es que sino te gustó FM7 o el FH4 no te va a doler desintalarlo. A propósito, cómo les va a Namco el tema de los reembolsos, en gran medida de parte de la propia comunidad de la saga Project CARS, y Viper lo dejó perfectamente claro... El fallo más grande de este juego es su nombre, ya de por sí lo carente de contenido y las continuas faltas de respeto a su comunidad y a sus raíces y tomando en cuenta que para mí este es un juego arcade y con tantas opciones gratuitas y de pago allá afuera por el precio en el que está... N O V A L E L A P E N A
So pretty much.....this game is great if you like arcades but sucks if you like pure sims or if you’re butthurt about it being called Project Cars...you’re welcome 👍👍
Back then when I was still reading and watching reviews and gameplay of PC3, the first thing I heard was "mobile ripoff" from some comments. I found out there's no pit stops or tire wear. I automatically consider this game "Simcade". The next day, I looked at Jimmy's review on the game and I felt most of the resentments came from all the sim racers who expected PC3 to be an evolution. Game is still visually stunning as ever, has that little Gran Turismo and Shift 2 quirks of upgrading stock cars to race cars, the perfect cornering system, emphasis on fun racing. I am however disappointed because it's even worse in immersion than Gran Turismo Sport when really, it could've been the competitor if only they kept the pit stops in longer races. PC3 has gone far too casual for me to pick up as a Gran Turismo alternative, and it is why I'm not buying it.
Let's make a petition to Codemasters to change the name of the game in respect for us that supported the birth of a great sim and now watched it's dead sadly
This game has such an amazing feel in the controller to how the car really feels. Do you think if we copy the controller settings. And put those in other racing games the controls will be even more amazing.
After many hours of playing, I gotta say I like it too, it's fun and something new for me, after having completed GRID 2019. But in PS4 there're some issues: sometimes the frame rate falls real low and the game slows down. And sometimes the resolution suffers a downgrade, looking more like a Nintendo Switch game more than PS4.
I don't have a steering wheel, I play on PC with a dualshock 4 and I tried to play ACC, Project cars 2 and Grid 2019 and it was too hard for me to control the car in ACC and PC2, and in Grid i felt that the driving was very simple, Project cars 3 is exactly the racing game that I wanted, driving does not feel as simple as in Grid and not as difficult as ACC or PC2 with gamepad, I mean it I am completely in love with Project cars 3! it is too fun and i don't care if people says that the game is trash. Project cars 3 is a really good game.
ZetasMasterMX And then, one day, you’ll get a GOOD casual game easy on a pad, and realize how bad this is. Maybe FM7, Horizons, maybe GT Sport, or maybe you’ll just get better with a pad and join the thousands that manage ACC or PC2 okay on pads... Or maybe, instead of blowing $80 on the deluxe version of this game, save up a bit more for a used wheel, and you’ll realize just how badly they ruined this game’s driving experience on a wheel...
Luqman Shamsul because it was supposed to be to the “pcars” series where it wa s supposed to be for sims not arcade games. Has they made it a spinoff it would’ve been better
Footnote to that: Grid 2019 is trash, get the original Grid for a better game (Grid 2 for the more arcadey alternative and Autosport for the most recent of the good Grid games)
They should have called it "Project Cars: Go fast" or something, like there is Forza and Forza Horizon. But I'm looking for a simcade, and I hoped PC3 would fill my need, but I want qualification, pitstops, and VR. Is there any option on the market ?
Some people still judging the book by it's cover and they need to stop it. Don't get fooled by the name. They didn't change the name because they wanted to sell more; it's a marketing technique and it's quite logical to do so. If it named differently you would say "hmm a new simcade game? Why would we need it when we have the GRID 2019 which is the game from same developper with same purpose" and probably say it's an "unnecessary" game that you don't need to care about it. But Codemasters rightfully used the "Here comes the airplane!" method and the people who's here for pure sim even started to like the game even they hated the game at the first sight. And you will love it too no matter how much you "hate" the game right now. Because if it was called Driveclub2 you would be saying that this is the best racing game of the year. It has the fun factor that you want but never expect.
david kirk on PD blew it big time perhaps you need to set in on a physics demonstration over at bugbear entertainment Call this what it is“project arse” (arcade racing simulation experience) Face it all the best graphics in the world won't change the FACT, pit strategy is an intricate or intrical part (something that is integral is very important or necessary) of any race along with tire management playing a crucial role and an exacting measure concerning the fule load and how a vehicle changes throughout a stint!! project cars 3 gets a big fat "f" !!As for us fans of simulation racing will see this title in the 1/2 price ben.
@@adariussartz2859 it's a totally different game with less features than an actual project cars game i know, but as i said they don't want you to look at this game as a successor to pc2, they want you to look at this game like a successor to nfs shift or driveclub, don't worry about the name so much. Pc2 is still up to date anyways.
What people need to finally understand once and for all is that PC doesn't have a place as a sim. Let's be real. It has always been compared to AC, iracing, RF2, RR, etc... The PC is flooded with sim/sim-cade games. But a Forza / GT like game ? Name me games on PC. Go ahead. That game isn't for me sure. But saying the devs made it go backward is retarded. They simply understood there's a better spot for them they can safely fill with no big competition. A game new players can safely take without fearing the difficulty of sims. To make them enjoy racing and want to step up later
I have a feeling the game could've done much better with some or all of these changes: -a small name change, like a subtitle (Project CARS: Ignition or something). Clarifies that it would be a spin-off with notable differences in gameplay from the other games. In spirit, I honestly still think it's a Project CARS game, being a collection of tarmac motorsport racing categories but with higher mechanical depth and less atmosphere than GRID - even if in my short experience it's significantly toned down on the vehicle dynamics aspect. -option to toggle more simulation-heavy aspects like wear, temperature effects, etc. Other sim racers have it, and the basis was there from the previous two games. If it has to be made accessible for non-sim racers, default to the easier/simpler settings on the first launch. -simple/intermediate/expert tuning options. It's taking inspiration from the Shift games, and they had a toggle between basic settings (adjusting multiple parameters at once while keeping a balance) and full freedom of tweaking. Goes inline with the previous point. -deeper performance upgrade options with flavour text. Shift 2, for all its flaws including in this category, still kept me invested just because I loved visualizing the changes I do to the car with varying levels of intake, exhaust, differential, clutch, brake systems and so on. Upgrades in PC3 are... too simple and uninteresting, like they're just tacked on. Aero packages don't even change the looks of the car until you swap to the race spec.
Literally just the name and false reputation is all that’s wrong with this game. This game isn’t for hardcore sim racers, just people who want to pick up an arcade racing game based on track racing. It’s honestly more comparable to Project Gotham Racing and NFS Shift. Literally nothing wrong with this game other than its name and advertising.
I personally prefer the direction they went with PC3 compared to the previous two games, especially since I use an Xbox controller to play games, which is unplayable in 1 and 2, and I love Shift 1 and 2 so this game is a must for me.
Feels like Slightly Mad went back to their NFS: Shift roots, and that makes me BIG sads. NFS SHift was good bc it was a NFS game. This is just.... pathetic. I refuse to blame SMS, though- I think they wanted to make THIS GAME AND PC3- But I think their new publisher, Codemasters, made them turn both into one game.
I think It would be more revolutionary if it had open-world map like in FH or TDU but with simulator physics (PC2), where player can't drive hypercars through off-road and so on. It would be something fresh and new for racing genre like MSFS 2020 with real world maps. But such simcade as it became can quickly lost among other racing games without its community and fanbase.
Personally, I don't understand this game. It tries to be a hybrid between sim and arcade, yet it fails on both sides. For an arcade game, the handling is too complicated and frustrating, for a sim, it's oversimulated and frustrating as well. Once you get access to more powerful cars, the game turns into drifting simulator, because there is no way you can drive fast and clean racing lines. Not in this game. Unfortunately, this problem has been with us since NFS: Shift and devs never fixed it :( Career is boring and I would definitely expect a little more out of it. It feels like career in NFS: High Stakes from '99. There is just zero interesting stuff or idea to spice up the career. AI is very inconsistent and thanks to no penalties or damage, overtaking is as simple as sending it into the first turn. Upgrading is unbalanced and sometimes laughable - how the hell can you get over 50kw more power just by installing cold air intake? Or upgrade your Rimac C's power from 1000kw to 1500kw with just 10k credits?
Naah, if you like yo drift you have Need For speed, with the actual Brake2Drift System (i dont like it) This game at least, gives you chances to have grip style
Incredibly disappointed. Project cars lost their way. They did something better than all the opposition and I still preferred PC2 over assetto corsa even though in a lot of ways AC is better. But I was hoping by the 3rd game they’d have aced the formula, but instead they’ve made a new NFS SHIFT. The graphics are worse than PC2 and probably even PC1 tbh. What a shame.
This is sad. They could've repackaged the solid game that they already had, for less experienced audience let the system adjust settings and that's it. But this is just expensive money grab. If it was 20-30€, OK, fun game it is. But 60€. Big no.
They shouldn't have use "project cars 3" to call this game, they shouldve made this a spinoff game and kept the mainline game more serious
Agreed
Yeah, almost like how there’s the more realistic Forza Motorsport series and the more casual Horizon series as well.
Shift 3
No doubt, agreed .
I kinda dissapointed to play , I don want those points ,EXP,etc...
no time attack mode is a joke to me///
play on console tho, its graphics is a joke. and I already had issues of terrible bugs....
Agree. Sub-series spinoff would def be better.
it is so amazing to see how big your channel has gotten! Been a fan for so long as you starting to talk has made it so much better! Love your videos and will keep watching!!!
He already started to talk. they grow up so fast.
It's really nice to see you talking.
My verdict would be like: It took MANY years for S.M.S. to understand that their approach to sim-racing was full of blatant mistakes on physics, tire model, car handling, etc., and it's now, after 6 games (including the Shifts and that infamous Test Drive: Ferrari Challenge) when they've realized fully on it, and went back to step 1; instead of starting again from step 14 failing the previous ones.
actually, an evolution is a "process of changes". So I say Project Cars 3 is an evolution from Project Cars 2, but not a development
True the problem is need different name, like for example if fallout 4 have different name majority of us will accept that game because developer still take that name for sequel but have big different gameplay when of course we as player will think that game will keep the main core feature and provide new improvement
Awesome review vip, you rock
I hope they enable community modding like assetto Corsa this Game has potential to get some good Touge or shuto expressway footages
It seems like the production title pCARS:Revolution wasn't a well known thing! I remember seeing it on the forums ages ago and having a bad feeling way back when he said less sandbox and more streamlined fun.
Would've made way more sense to just keep that title and leave space for a next gen pCARS3.
"It is evolving, just backwards"
-PewDiePie 2020
Ikr!
Azula's psychology is evolving too just backwards
@@dovydas4483 what is azula?
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Not only you ;p
Yep, me too
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This is probably the fairest review I've seen out every single one I've watched and I'm really happy about that.
It lacks a bit in content and doesn't really look at the whole game, but in general it's a decent video.
supergt gave it a fair review.
that said, it does look like ass
That was the most wholesome review I've seen about this game.
Sry cant like ur coment its at 69
"Project CARS GO" would be perfect name for this game.
On mobile with microtransactions, ads and energy meters.
Me lord
@@W00JDA Probably frickin mobile..
There will be an actual mobile version called “Project Cars Go”. It’s currently in beta.
I think Shift 3 with whatever extra subtitle added to the name would fit better
"The lacks made me sad." Same, man. Same. As a beginner Sim racer, Project Cars 1 and 2 were the only one that able to teach me everything I need to know about racing in real life. I know that sound exaggerating, but that is how I felt for the series compared to Asseto Corsa.
Agreed. Assetto Corsa was better in ways, however I much preferred project cars to play, and was hoping by the 3rd game they’d have aced the formula.
I agree because project cars had a level of difficulty close to real life compared to that of assetto corsa(amazing game) but in terms of that immersion definitely pc2
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The reviwer everybody been waiting for
i think the review that im curious what gives the verdict for cause everybody is mixed.
most deferentially
The more disingenuous review I saw by far!
I think the biggest problem of this game is the name. Because, underneath everything, it is a very fun racing *game*
If this was called "Project RACER" with this NFS: Shift vibe, the backlash wouldn't be as big as it is.
Agree. It is Driveclub 2! Even the little flags are all around haha!
And its like Most Wanted 2012 all over again!
@@kenjamago3977 Even if MW2012 had any other name, it's not a good game either. Imagine Burnout Paradise but it has all the fun sucked out dry, that's what MW2012 is.
@@mcatrane Yeah r8. Trying 2 grind 4 car upgrades & races felt like a chores
Agreed. I don't know why they did this, Codemaster has done such a thing previously with their Dirt series. Dirt Rally as sim-racing spinoff of Dirt.
In short: It's PC. But Forza-tized. Being a Forza Rival. Be ready for the Rammers. Luckily, I can Police the race (If I had a Police Rapid Response unit). Should've called it Project CARS Forza.
It is more like GRID 2019. Forza, both Motorsport and Horizon handle well, but they arent trying to be simulators. If they figured out how to do penalties and so on right they would have been the best simcades ever created. I consider FM7 and FH4 to be betatests for such systems.
GRID on the other hand... well it looks ok, and sounds ok, but maybe some action game could get away with that.
It remindes me a lot to Driveclub!
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@@HIGHSTAKES bruh
No, the original Project Cars was like Forza. This is like the Grid reboot.
It should be called Need For Speed Shift 3
But EA hates Slightly Mad Studios, and EA owns the Need for Speed franchise
EAT, SLEEP, NEED FOR SPEED...
its a nice game until NFS 2021
Just "Grid Cars" would suffice :)
Project Shift would be sufficient
Project Shift: Unleashed
1:42 the Tyres, Suspension, Physics, Car Model and Immersion pops up
me: oh no
Its like a military obstacle course, and PC3 was just coming from mcdonalds
Yeah I was like ohh now I see the dissapointment
The AI driving in clusters is priceless: I've never seen such a crazy behavior, in any game, since I've started playing sim oriented racing games in 1993. xD
JorgeAraujo97 💀
And i thought the cheating rubberbanding AI on EA BlackBox's NFS was way better than this
The AI do cheats in this game, even if you force everyone to drive a identical car. They will take corners at unrealistic speed, as if they were on rails... PCars2 also had this problem.
Ai cheats with grip and brakes and if they drive fwd or 4wd cars they don't suffer understeer at all. Also if you set up an High aggressivity they try to overtake from very far away, cheating ever more, and going for a gap that doesn't exist, but in the end they never make you spin.
Also, for some cars ai is completely off pace (both too fast and too slow), partially ruining class races.
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glad I didn't buy this.
I even not gonna pirate this shit
@@Nomad.552 😄
@@Nomad.552 I did. It wasn't worth the 40 GB download. I uninstalled it after 2 hours. It's garbage.
@@ValHazzard Professionals have standards
@@ValHazzard I did the same with project cars 2
Great video. I always love your video. Big fan of yours since I started sim racing. Real review which explains which particular part Project Cars 3 is not realistic without providing unnecessarily subjective words which other English native TH-camr does. I feel your honest opinion on the game since you liked Project Cars 2 and you've been uploading many Project Cars 2 videos. Highly agree on mistakes on the naming of the game. No tire wear however there is tire temperature and no pit stops... they should have left it for players to choose. Keep the great work. Thank you as always!
This game has actually nothing to do with Codemasters. The direction was chosen by SMS long before Codemasters entered the picture.
Notice how Codemasters is _not_ the publisher!
Also this game has worse graphics, worse weather effects, worse performance and less tracks than Project CARS 2.
In my opinion they should have added tire flex, at least in a visual way (I always find it fascinating to see good suspension and tire flex systems), simplified the tuning much more, added all the content of PC 2, improved the A.I., removed the upgrade system (I mean it doesn't add anything, so what's the point), improved the visual customization, after all that's a pretty important part in many arcade games and changed the car classes.
SMS took artistic freedom and oriented the classes on their performance index rating.
In general they should have kept all the visuals and changed the physics.
And of course also the abysmal marketing idiocy, but that doesn't change the game.
ThePandafriend codemasters is these, even if pc2 you Could see DirtFish in the game.
Viperconcept : "it isn't a disappointment"
Also Viperconcept : "it's just different from our expectations"
It looks like the definition of disappointment IMHO
Though, I agree the choice to name it PC3 is greedy mistake
But it's just a name...
@@dorawings yes but its name is the series that was going towards sim not arcade, making this game a bruh moment
@@halo3rat_709 well,if you wanna play a sim game,pc2 still there
@@dorawings you're missing my point
If you compare this to food, it's like if McDonald's stopped making hamburgers in order to make pizzas. The name and fame of trademark is still there but you won't get what you expected anymore. It doesn't matter how good the pizza is, some customers will be disappointed because it has changed.
I disagree, it isn't "just a name", when you are making a sequel, the trademark has an image and some principles to the customer. It is pure greed IMHO because, the pure sim aspect was part of the DNA of the series.
I think that...generally, just because something doesn't follow our expectations, it doesn't mean it has to be a disappointment. It could be a really nice surprise instead! ^_^
That’s why i didn’t buy this game cause it doesn’t follow the lagacy.
Love your content viperconcept, you inspired me to start my own youtube channel.
Thank you for motivation.
What a wondeful review, after a while of not playing sim racing games I was looking forward to pc3(i played a decent amount of hours of pc2 and loved it) an then sudently everyone was bashing the game and i didn't understood why? No one explained and just rambled for minutes. Thanks for the insight, I will give it a chance since I mostly play with a controller
the simracing version of most wanted 2012
When we unmask this bad guy we se 2019 Grid.
10:22 You just murdered someone and the game said "no My Man, You went off track"
I ain't buying this game ever
@Michael Appiah by far
@Michael Appiah me too😩
@Michael Appiah they are everywere
@Michael Appiah yeah there should be lobbies named rammers only
they litterally just made driveclub from what i see its basically the same driving model.
Not necessarily a bad thing.
yeah, but Driveclub have insane graphics even for today standards, but this game looks like a PS3 game in some tracks, just look at 8:53
Ivan Roman the graphics are bad due to the lack of anti ailiasing
@@neblolthecarnerd Also, reflections are bad and in most conditions, non-existent
Ivan Roman yea
Good review, mate. Just not quite sure what you mean regarding it not having tyre deformation. It's present in the game, and was present even in the clip you showed. Moreover, you can actually feel it while driving, and see it in most replays. It's partly what contributes to the excessively 'bouncy' handling character of the game.
When I watch these reviews , it makes the game look bad. But I’ve been pretty addicted since early release . Good game to build cars and take it out on track in custom lobbies like forza Motorsport 4
Now THIS is a review. Not the Sarcastic BS Ermin came up with or the whiny mess Sim Racing Paddock did, just an unbiased review and analyzing the game for what it is (An arcade first, simulation second game) instead of a pure simulation.
Just need to watch BlackPanthaa´s or KuruHS´s videos on this game to see what the demographic for this game is. Nicely done Viper, excellent video as always.
Thank you very much! :-)
I agree, but he's not the only one to say that this game shouldn't have been called "Project Cars 3", because it's way too different from the two previous ones.
@@christophelemaire4551 I totally agree on that part, the game should have either been called ¨Project Cars¨ so it can be considered a reboot or just ¨Project Cars: **Insert anything here** so it can be considered a spinoff. But they probably just wanted to secure some sales with the name and it backfired.
Project Cars: Shift
True! Ermin sounded pissed mostly because he didn't get free stuff.
SMS: **doesn't send him a free copy of PC3**
Ermin: I'm gonna end those guys' whole career.
You are right! Totally different game and i LOVE IT because its SO MUCH FUN! I could drive no asists on highest lvl with my G29! Its something like Gran Turismo which I could not play on PC but now i can!
Jule Rulez Nope. GT Sport got tires and fuel and pits (optionally). GT Sport got tightly balanced car groups (mostly). GT Sport is pretty bug free. And GT Sport’s online community is 500X larger than this will ever be. If you like this, be glad you CAN’T play Gran Turismo! You’d hate it.
GT sport and this game don't belong to same sentence. For pc there is also Forza Motorsport and horizon.
Whatever it's called, this game is the most fun racer I've ever played, and I've played a lot. I wont be playing GRID again because although this isn't as graphically impressive as GRID it's far more fun and immersive. It's a joy to play and doesn't deserve the hate.
It's getting hate because of the name. Project CARS stands for Project Community Assisted Racing Simulator, and this game spits in the faces of the backers and the fans of the first two games.
In my opinion, it deserves every bit of the hate, because it's yet another corporation banking off the clout of past titles to try and squeeze every dollar they can out of the playerbase. Most of the content are direct ports from Project CARS 2 that both look and handle worse. I'm done with SMS, and definitely done with Codemasters, who recently bought out SMS.
Im not trying to say its not a fun game and that people cant enjoy it for what it is. I'm trying to explain why I feel the hate it's getting is justified.
Ok, it's an arcade game, the problem is that it sucks even for being an arcade game, just look at the ai
@@giorginosbeloottino1866 you can adjust the ai
@@Timothy27778 I know, but it sucks anyway, I can overtake them all in the first turn because they are super slow while turning, and I don't have to worry about damage on my car so I can even just crash on them and overtake everyone
The only review I'll take to heart x)
But yeah, I think the game is good enough, but the name is why most people are disappointed or won't even try the game... It's kinda like what happened to NFS MW 12, the name was why people don't like the game, it isn't like the old Most Wanted but it's a good game anyway, just the title that upsets people.... But idk
I dunno about you guys, but I feel there is a new market emerging, the market of sim-arcade games that disguises themselves as sim games, for people that want to say that they play full sim games but they don't...
Just like Gran Turismo and Forza.
To be fair, 'The Real Driving Simulator' has been a slogan for Gran Turismo for decades, so this isn't anything new.
GTBKS Gran Turismo in my opinion is in a good spot when it comes to sim-arcade, it is the most “realistic” inside the category sim-arcade, but still is a sim-arcade.
@@kazuhiramiller2121 nobody thinks those games are are SIM.
@@fondfarewell2 you'd be surprised
They shouldve made this some kind of spin-off and they wouldve avoid most of the hate. This way this seems just massive cash grab but hey that you can except from Codemasters. After this and fast and furious crossroads slightly mad studios future doesen't look bright at all..
Pros - More cars
Cons - EVERYTHING ELSE lmao
Pros - "Casual and fun" oriented racing game
Cons - Not suited for the "Full Sim" racing game afficionados
@@christophelemaire4551 Where's the fun in a game with awful AI that cheats, dive-bombs you, and goes from too hard to very easy without rhyme or reason?
@@gurriato lmao true. I thought the AI would atleast be better. Heck if u want to play a better game. Play gt sport or forza.
m.th-cam.com/video/2bDQ5hGD3VI/w-d-xo.html
Hopefully you'll like this..
Players: Project Cars 3 is bad! It's not a simulator! It's a basic Arcade game!
Also Players: I love Forza Horizon 4!
At least on PC3 we have REAL TRACKS and I think the driving style is better.
Project SHIFT, the real name🤣🤣🤣 not realistic,but fun.
Wild spanish comment incoming alert:
En mi opinión, si tuviera que elegir entre NFS Shift o este intento fallido de superar a Forza llamado Project CARS 3
Me quedo con Shift, PC3 no es un NFS Shift 3 maquillado ¿Por qué?
La IA si ya en el 2 ya deja mucho que desear, el 3 ya te hacen trampas para dar una "sensación de dificultad" y más todavía cuando es muy difusa la diferencia entre clases.
La interfaz de usuario, los menús, el sistema de personalización y mejoras y el modo carrera parecen sacados del Real Racing 3 mezclado con Forza Horizon 4, y la paleta de colores de los menús sacado del The Crew 2, dando la apariencia de (me disculpo si ofendo a alguien) de que PC3 es un juego completamente arcade, no un sim-cade. ¿Alguien se acuerda como era la IU en el Shift?
Los daños, degaste y deformación de los coches y ciertas partes de los mismos son sólo visuales o no existen... Estaís de broma o se creen que podrían superar a Polyphony Digital en cuánto de cómo se ven los coches? o la gente que hizo el DriveClub? (F por DriveClub, a propósito).
El sistema de penalizaciones casi propio del Real Racing 3 le acabas de declararles a los Rammers "!Yo Soy tu Perra! !Haz lo que tú quieras!" apenas los usuarios se acaben el modo carrera y quieran pasarme al multi que no tenga opción para crear lobbies cerrados y que no ande bien los servidores (especialmente en PS4), se terminó el juego y a otra cosa mariposa. Una de las ventajas de que tiene ahora la saga Forza es que al estar en el Xbox Game Pass y si tu estás suscrito a él es que sino te gustó FM7 o el FH4 no te va a doler desintalarlo. A propósito, cómo les va a Namco el tema de los reembolsos, en gran medida de parte de la propia comunidad de la saga Project CARS, y Viper lo dejó perfectamente claro... El fallo más grande de este juego es su nombre, ya de por sí lo carente de contenido y las continuas faltas de respeto a su comunidad y a sus raíces y tomando en cuenta que para mí este es un juego arcade y con tantas opciones gratuitas y de pago allá afuera por el precio en el que está...
N O V A L E L A P E N A
So pretty much.....this game is great if you like arcades but sucks if you like pure sims or if you’re butthurt about it being called Project Cars...you’re welcome 👍👍
PCars3...I got a huge pang in my heart but I have to say "IT'S A TRAP!" 😂
Admiral Ackbar wants to know your location
"last racing game by Slightly Mad Studios"? so they won't be making any more games after this mistake they did?
Back then when I was still reading and watching reviews and gameplay of PC3, the first thing I heard was "mobile ripoff" from some comments. I found out there's no pit stops or tire wear. I automatically consider this game "Simcade". The next day, I looked at Jimmy's review on the game and I felt most of the resentments came from all the sim racers who expected PC3 to be an evolution. Game is still visually stunning as ever, has that little Gran Turismo and Shift 2 quirks of upgrading stock cars to race cars, the perfect cornering system, emphasis on fun racing. I am however disappointed because it's even worse in immersion than Gran Turismo Sport when really, it could've been the competitor if only they kept the pit stops in longer races. PC3 has gone far too casual for me to pick up as a Gran Turismo alternative, and it is why I'm not buying it.
The only guy that isnt toxic in the internet
The guy is clearly pragmatic & objective, not just opinionated & subjective.
Let's make a petition to Codemasters to change the name of the game in respect for us that supported the birth of a great sim and now watched it's dead sadly
This game has such an amazing feel in the controller to how the car really feels. Do you think if we copy the controller settings. And put those in other racing games the controls will be even more amazing.
when Viperconcept speak english by Mario's accent, I felt that
It'sa meee Maaaario 🙌
ok i will still play PC 2 and forza horizon 4 i think xD both great in their category
It looks quite a bit like Need For Speed:Shift. Might need to pick it up.
After many hours of playing, I gotta say I like it too, it's fun and something new for me, after having completed GRID 2019. But in PS4 there're some issues: sometimes the frame rate falls real low and the game slows down. And sometimes the resolution suffers a downgrade, looking more like a Nintendo Switch game more than PS4.
My opinion is that is an introducer to the sim racing comunity thats why is much simpler than PJ2
Thank you for the review, very professional and objective
Viperconcept, this game is Project CARS GO. notice the mobile game looking U.I.? that's why...
I don't have a steering wheel, I play on PC with a dualshock 4 and I tried to play ACC, Project cars 2 and Grid 2019 and it was too hard for me to control the car in ACC and PC2, and in Grid i felt that the driving was very simple, Project cars 3 is exactly the racing game that I wanted, driving does not feel as simple as in Grid and not as difficult as ACC or PC2 with gamepad, I mean it I am completely in love with Project cars 3! it is too fun and i don't care if people says that the game is trash. Project cars 3 is a really good game.
ZetasMasterMX And then, one day, you’ll get a GOOD casual game easy on a pad, and realize how bad this is. Maybe FM7, Horizons, maybe GT Sport, or maybe you’ll just get better with a pad and join the thousands that manage ACC or PC2 okay on pads...
Or maybe, instead of blowing $80 on the deluxe version of this game, save up a bit more for a used wheel, and you’ll realize just how badly they ruined this game’s driving experience on a wheel...
The sounds are terrible. The Alpine sounds like a 6 cyl and the C8 sounds almost like it’s got a V10.
From what i heard Pc2 sounds used real life samples when new ones are fully digital.
12:17 disagree with this part about Codemasters being involved, as PC3 was already well into its development when Codies acquired them.
Is it like the PGR series, game mechanics-wise? I loved that series, but unfortunately there are no new games. This looks similar.
my question is, why did codies need arcade racing game when they already have grid?
Teimo16 this game is published by Bandai Namco not Codemasters. Why do people constantly get this wrong
@@cjr3559 Yes, they are the publishers but developers are Codies and that's 2 different things
Oh shit boys, viper is now the judge (also I’m first)
Ali Nassereddine he said you can have lots of fun in it tho
Luqman Shamsul ?
Luqman Shamsul because it was supposed to be to the “pcars” series where it wa s supposed to be for sims not arcade games. Has they made it a spinoff it would’ve been better
Luqman Shamsul no, there were bugs and glitches in the games they tried on
m.th-cam.com/video/2bDQ5hGD3VI/w-d-xo.html
Hopefully you'll like this..
its SHIFT 3. You just cant tell me otherwise.
If a new racing game Comes out, thats the Video i am waiting for!
So basically It's Need for Speed Shift 3
Thank you so much for giving us YOUR PERSONAL and objective opinion. You just gained yourself a follower.
one of the best review racing game thank Viperconcept
Welcome to Project Car 3, its actually Project Car 2-1 but we add another negative so it can be -3
They'll name it whatever they want. It's their game after all...
get Grid instead, its cheaper, better AI and the graphic are alot better than this
Footnote to that: Grid 2019 is trash, get the original Grid for a better game (Grid 2 for the more arcadey alternative and Autosport for the most recent of the good Grid games)
Grid one still best in the series for me. Forza is good as well.
@@W00JDA indeed (◍ ´꒳` ◍)b
It's at 70% off but I might get it when it's 90% off.
it should be called "Project Cars Arcade Edition" like GT1 and 2 had
soo true
They should have called it "Project Cars: Go fast" or something, like there is Forza and Forza Horizon.
But I'm looking for a simcade, and I hoped PC3 would fill my need, but I want qualification, pitstops, and VR. Is there any option on the market ?
@@gabrieljr5410 Thanks, but I don't have a PS4, only PC and Oculus...
@@gabrieljr5410 Thank you very much for your help, it just does not have VR officially 😉
Some people still judging the book by it's cover and they need to stop it. Don't get fooled by the name. They didn't change the name because they wanted to sell more; it's a marketing technique and it's quite logical to do so. If it named differently you would say "hmm a new simcade game? Why would we need it when we have the GRID 2019 which is the game from same developper with same purpose" and probably say it's an "unnecessary" game that you don't need to care about it. But Codemasters rightfully used the "Here comes the airplane!" method and the people who's here for pure sim even started to like the game even they hated the game at the first sight. And you will love it too no matter how much you "hate" the game right now. Because if it was called Driveclub2 you would be saying that this is the best racing game of the year. It has the fun factor that you want but never expect.
david kirk on PD blew it big time perhaps you need to set in on a physics demonstration over at bugbear entertainment Call this what it is“project arse” (arcade racing simulation experience) Face it all the best graphics in the world won't change the FACT, pit strategy is an intricate or intrical part (something that is integral is very important or necessary) of any race along with tire management playing a crucial role and an exacting measure concerning the fule load and how a vehicle changes throughout a stint!! project cars 3 gets a big fat "f" !!As for us fans of simulation racing will see this title in the 1/2 price ben.
@@adariussartz2859 it's a totally different game with less features than an actual project cars game i know, but as i said they don't want you to look at this game as a successor to pc2, they want you to look at this game like a successor to nfs shift or driveclub, don't worry about the name so much. Pc2 is still up to date anyways.
What people need to finally understand once and for all is that PC doesn't have a place as a sim. Let's be real. It has always been compared to AC, iracing, RF2, RR, etc...
The PC is flooded with sim/sim-cade games.
But a Forza / GT like game ? Name me games on PC. Go ahead. That game isn't for me sure. But saying the devs made it go backward is retarded. They simply understood there's a better spot for them they can safely fill with no big competition.
A game new players can safely take without fearing the difficulty of sims. To make them enjoy racing and want to step up later
I have a feeling the game could've done much better with some or all of these changes:
-a small name change, like a subtitle (Project CARS: Ignition or something). Clarifies that it would be a spin-off with notable differences in gameplay from the other games. In spirit, I honestly still think it's a Project CARS game, being a collection of tarmac motorsport racing categories but with higher mechanical depth and less atmosphere than GRID - even if in my short experience it's significantly toned down on the vehicle dynamics aspect.
-option to toggle more simulation-heavy aspects like wear, temperature effects, etc. Other sim racers have it, and the basis was there from the previous two games. If it has to be made accessible for non-sim racers, default to the easier/simpler settings on the first launch.
-simple/intermediate/expert tuning options. It's taking inspiration from the Shift games, and they had a toggle between basic settings (adjusting multiple parameters at once while keeping a balance) and full freedom of tweaking. Goes inline with the previous point.
-deeper performance upgrade options with flavour text. Shift 2, for all its flaws including in this category, still kept me invested just because I loved visualizing the changes I do to the car with varying levels of intake, exhaust, differential, clutch, brake systems and so on. Upgrades in PC3 are... too simple and uninteresting, like they're just tacked on. Aero packages don't even change the looks of the car until you swap to the race spec.
Literally just the name and false reputation is all that’s wrong with this game.
This game isn’t for hardcore sim racers, just people who want to pick up an arcade racing game based on track racing.
It’s honestly more comparable to Project Gotham Racing and NFS Shift.
Literally nothing wrong with this game other than its name and advertising.
Need For Speed Shift 3 . . .
Thank you Codemasters
Better than shift 2 but not as good as shift 1
I personally prefer the direction they went with PC3 compared to the previous two games, especially since I use an Xbox controller to play games, which is unplayable in 1 and 2, and I love Shift 1 and 2 so this game is a must for me.
They made nfs shift 3 with name of project cars.
PC1 was the worst racing game I've played. Horrendously unrealistic tire model. Haven't bought another PC since.
It should be called "Project GRID" XD
Didn't know I was waiting for this video until I saw it pop up in my notifications lol
Very good review 👌🏻 Im happy that I don’t spend money for this game. I agree name of this game should be diffirent than Project Cars.
Automobilista 2 is real Project Cars 3
Whats the name of the song you used for the conclusion or immersion, i loved the song
Eternal Garden - Dan Henig
This game is a spit in the face to Project Cars fans. The developer basically said F you to the original fan of the series.
I bought it to test it (can return within 7 days) and I am enjoying it. It’s good fun and can be quite challenging at time, even fir simcade
Thank you! Finally someone that can look at a game without putting there ego in the way. Great review
Discord server when
Feels like Slightly Mad went back to their NFS: Shift roots, and that makes me BIG sads. NFS SHift was good bc it was a NFS game.
This is just.... pathetic.
I refuse to blame SMS, though- I think they wanted to make THIS GAME AND PC3- But I think their new publisher, Codemasters, made them turn both into one game.
I think It would be more revolutionary if it had open-world map like in FH or TDU but with simulator physics (PC2), where player can't drive hypercars through off-road and so on. It would be something fresh and new for racing genre like MSFS 2020 with real world maps. But such simcade as it became can quickly lost among other racing games without its community and fanbase.
Personally, I don't understand this game. It tries to be a hybrid between sim and arcade, yet it fails on both sides. For an arcade game, the handling is too complicated and frustrating, for a sim, it's oversimulated and frustrating as well. Once you get access to more powerful cars, the game turns into drifting simulator, because there is no way you can drive fast and clean racing lines. Not in this game. Unfortunately, this problem has been with us since NFS: Shift and devs never fixed it :( Career is boring and I would definitely expect a little more out of it. It feels like career in NFS: High Stakes from '99. There is just zero interesting stuff or idea to spice up the career. AI is very inconsistent and thanks to no penalties or damage, overtaking is as simple as sending it into the first turn. Upgrading is unbalanced and sometimes laughable - how the hell can you get over 50kw more power just by installing cold air intake? Or upgrade your Rimac C's power from 1000kw to 1500kw with just 10k credits?
my conclusión about P:C3: if you like to drift this game will give you a lot of fun.
Naah, if you like yo drift you have Need For speed, with the actual Brake2Drift System (i dont like it)
This game at least, gives you chances to have grip style
Gran Turismo is the better real simulator
Incredibly disappointed. Project cars lost their way. They did something better than all the opposition and I still preferred PC2 over assetto corsa even though in a lot of ways AC is better. But I was hoping by the 3rd game they’d have aced the formula, but instead they’ve made a new NFS SHIFT. The graphics are worse than PC2 and probably even PC1 tbh. What a shame.
This is sad. They could've repackaged the solid game that they already had, for less experienced audience let the system adjust settings and that's it. But this is just expensive money grab. If it was 20-30€, OK, fun game it is. But 60€. Big no.