A Dune Inspired Masterpiece? Jodorowsky's The Incal
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- The Incal was first published in 1988 by Humanoid and Epic Comics. It is the story of the object known as the "Incal" The most sought after object in the universe.
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The artist Jean Gerard known professionally as Moebius draws with sensuous magic. His life story is amazing. His family moved from France to Mexico when he was young and he wandered on the flat Mexican desert without fears: He said it was magical: The flat landscape, the light, the colors all inspired him to become the great artist that he became. He was obsessed with drawing every day of his life. He is a Master. Every project that he touched was touched by his Magic. Jodorowsky is also a magician story teller, the two together make "The Inca"l one of the greatest graphic novels ever published. Thanks for honoring this great work!
his color use is sooo fantastic
@@k33k32 Ironically most of moebius work is in black and white 😅
@@scipio109 not really. There is a bich chum that is colored. Besides, Moebius might have mostly black/white, most of JEAN GIRAUD's stories ARE actually colored. Like Blueberry for example. And I imagine that the mexican landscapes of the desert resemble more the work shown in Blueberry than in Moebius. Well, except for Arzach. That is pretty desert-y and also colored to boot. I much prefer his colored stuff and Illustrations!
Giraud ;)
I love the Incal and Metabarons. Both comics are amazing. Can't wait for your review of The Metabarons. When I saw the documentary about Jodorowsky's Dune, I immediately thought about the visuals in The Metabarons and how mindblowing it is. Juan Gimenez who illustrated The Metabarons unfortunately passed away in Covid in April this year.
Rest in Peace. What a great artist he was. Though I need to preface this to anybody interested in reading the series: don't expect the same level of satire and slow character development of The Incal, expect over the top bombast.
Oh damn, I wasn't aware of Gimenez' passing. His solo work was pretty great too. In the Incal universe you should also check out the Technopriests series. The art is not quite on par with Moebius and Gimenez IMO but it's still worth a read for expanding the universe and filling in some blanks.
Another Jodorowsky collaboration I found quite visually stunning was _Diosamante_ . That was drawn by Jean-Claude Gal, who spent way too much time detailing every little thing. Unfortunately he died before he could finish it.
They were written to be read and re-read. I am certain that the author knew that an expensive hardback version would be great value. I agree with him.
I bought "The Incal" in 1988. Golden Apple comics in Los Angeles. GREAT graphic novel series.
Still have those books.
About that time I picked up a three volume series at my local game store containing "The Incal", "The Long Tomorrow", several "Arzach" strips, and a bunch of of Moebius's other stuff. Plus all three books were signed by Moebius! Expensive but I couldn't pass up the opportunity.
found it in the early 90s and was instant moebius classsic for me
I still have the original French first edition that my parents bought on release and that I devoured as a kid.
I almost took a bite of the Golden Apple. It would've broken my teeth but then I took an arrow to the knee.
I was 25 then, and just reading Iain M Banks. Jodorowsky came a bit later for me.
Sci-fi stories with city planets go way back. Isaac Asimov's Foundation series from the 1940s and 50s featured a Galactic Empire with a capital city, Trantor, that was completely urbanized.
I was gonna say that. Trantor is just as much, if not more, of an inspiration for Coruscant.
@@mugwump7049 The idea of a city-wide planet was almost certainly from Asimov (and Asimov actually briefly consulted Lucas on the original film, apparently), but the _aesthetic_ of Coruscant is lifted very much from Moebius in general and the Incal specifically.
Lensmen predates even foundations
@@gabbar51ngh Yup don't you forget about Lensman now.
@@SonofSethoitae Lucas never consulted with Asimov.
Damn straight! I fell in love with THE INCAL when I first saw it in Heavy Metal magazine eons ago. It blew my mind as a teen by introducing me to mystic concepts and realities as adventure. John DiFool annoyed me at first until the story, at the end, revealed his true role in the Great Scheme of All Things. The story's beautiful and profound to me. Both Moebius and Jodorowsky, among other influences, are partially responsible for me becoming a professional artist in later years. Thanks for bringing it up, Quinn!
yep thats where i found incal and moebius in heavy metal magazine and yep john the fool annoyed tf out of me too until the end. futurama's fry is so clearly a ripoff/homage. cool of quinn to point out that star wars movie too.
The Incal Jodoverse is one of the coolest things I've ever read. Especially the Metabarons. Glad you're enjoying them Quinn.
The Technopriests is cool too, though it's not quite on par either visually or narratively.
I've been an a avid collector of Mobius artwork and books for decades and I was always a fan of the Incal, but never knew of Jodorowsky's connection to it until this video. I have a framed Airtight Garage poster personally autographed by Mobius. I probably need to put that in my will.
So glad to see english speaking folks take notice of stuff like that, especially Moebius' work. My family (on my father's side) worked with him on several projects and hence I have some original prints of his work, really talented artist.
English speaking people take notice?🤣🤣moebius is a world famous artist,English speaking folk are well aware of his work
@@titteryenot1136 to you I'm sure, but that's not necessarily true across the board.
@Christopher Reinke sur de l'estampe uniquement, mais de très belles œuvres (en tout cas à mon goût !)
woah that's insane! As someone living in the United States I've been able to buy all the books from him that have been published here. Sadly the only ones on print were World and Art of Edena, The Incal and the inside moebius books.
Is there a chance you could upload those prints somewhere? I love Moebius and always have such a hard time finding his work.
jure!
Maybe Jodorowsky's ideas are a great case of "Good ideas, just not the right place to put them" with Dune. Some great things came from that.
Fun fact: Devil May Cry began life as a Resident Evil game. The Capcom producers were smart enough to make it it's own thing instead of either scrapping it or making an inappropriate sequel.
Hard to say if Jodorowsky's Dune would have failed if he had secured the funding to begin production...
From some of the Giger illustrations and Moebius story boards, it really felt like it had the potential to compete with 1982's Blade Runner to become the greatest sci fi movie ever ....
... but of course its all about the execution, since the lack of funding means they never began production at all, we can only guess how good or bad it could have been but never be sure of it ...
Oooh the Incal. I read that as a teenager and had the great luck to meet Moebius when he was alive and talk with him about his work on that book. It was a formative experience of my youth reading this, and even now I am using a name and portrait of a supporting character from that story for my account here.
I'm happy to see that the Incal is still being read and enjoyed by new people these days. It was already old when I first read it :D
Wow, you're one lucky guy! I wish I had met the man. Saw some of his interviews and I liked the way he talked about his work.
@@mugwump7049 He was super friendly and approachable. It was at an exhibition of his work and he was just hanging out drinking wine. Hardly anyone paid attention to the small skinny grey-haired French guy and so a friend and I ended up having more than half an hour of uninterrupted time with him.
@@kamarraimo4391 Yeah, he seemed like a very friendly and down-to-Earth man from what I've seen. Totally not the star type despite his status in and outside of the comics world.
@@kamarraimo4391 When he did an exhibition and signing at Copenhagen's city library in the mid 90s the number of people who showed up was insane. I think he was rather overwhelmed by it.
His last exhibition before he died was at the local art gallery in Cherbourg, just at the bottom of the hill from where I'd lived during my year in France. Wish I'd been able to go.
Read part four when I was fourteen, hooked!!! Now I'm 45 ;-)
Thank you for highlighting the wonderful work of Moebius which really deserves to be discovered. There are also other creators like Philippe Druillet or Enki Bilal who, each in their own genre, have revolutionized the world of comics. Maybe you'll have the desire/time to make us a nice video on these exceptional artists next year? Thank you for all your videos, they motivated me to reread the Dune saga in its entirety. I wish you all the best for your channel in 2021.
Bilal's earliest work is of course highly derivative of the hatched engraving style Moebius was the best in the world at during the late 60s and early 70s. Compare uncolourised "Exterminateur 17" with the Airtight Garage. Bilal really came into his own once he started using colour and an almost "photorealism recolourised" aesthetic round the time of the first "immortels" book. Druillet was entirely unique. Great to look at but not so great to actually "read" coherently. I also really enjoyed the Dionnet/Gal collaborations.
I absolutely love The Metabarons. Though originally published in French, I have a hard time finding an anthology copy to buy in comic books stores here in Paris, which is insane. I've read them all but I'd like to own them in an anthology book. I can find it online but it's too bad that stores don't have them easily available.
Not that much of a fan of the Incal, but I love "Before the Incal". It takes some high concepts that feel just thrown against the wall in the Incal and turns them into working parts of a credible setting. And that book is really, really dark - in colourful way. (But admittedly no Moebius art.)
I recently got The Incal for Christmas and it’s soooooooo good. I will describe it as if you asked a friend to describe their Acid trip and they describe it like a narrative
This was a great review. I have many iterations of the Incal from HM, Epic, Humanoids; but I’ve mainly admired the visuals created by Moebius more than the actual story. He produced worlds that my young brain absorbed like a sponge. His artwork is beyond exquisite! I can only hope someday that we will see it brought to life.
So glad you like The Incal. The whole "Jodoverse" is good, but The Incal and The Metabarons are insanely great.
Literally one of the best comics I’ve ever read , I got so excited when I saw you’d made this video
Quinn!! Thank you very much for this recommendation. I went and picked up The Incal, the Dune graphic novel, Watchmen, The Silver Surfer: Parable & the first 3 Dune: House Atreides comics. Needless to say Im on huge graphic novel kick, when i haven't previously touched one since i was a kid & it is all thanks to you & this video. Appreciate ya.
This and Holy Mountain are some of the most unique takes on the “hero’s journey”. It will be interesting to see what Waititi does with it.
also el topo
Metalbarons is AWESOME! Simply magnificent!
A lot of people may have “ripped off” Jodorowski, but he’s borrowing (expanding on?) a whole lot of Carl Jung’s ideas. That said, this sounds awesome, I definitely want to read it.
The
thing is that most people weren't visualizing these things before Jodo. He gives credits to his zen master from Mexico and Jun's work. He doesn't walk around saying he invented this, Visually he gets ripped off all the time. With out his visual work the others wouldn't exist.
It's got amazing art.
Yeah, you totally should read The Incal. I might be a little partial since I grew up reading it but it's really a great book, and as others said, has amazing art.
He knows how to steal, as most artists do. I admire the man but in the Dune documentary I cringed every time he said he tried to do something “visionary” and “hallucinatory” as never seen before which 2001 already DID.
Considering Jung's idea are pseudoscientific, one could say he fully realized them by turning them into outright fiction.
Have you read Silver Surfer: Parable?
If you haven't, I *highly* recommend it. Moebius' art in the story is absolutely gorgeous and Stan Lee's writing is superb!
If you liked Moebius' art in The Incal, I think you'll just love this story.
so glad I stumbled upon this youtube channel, this is one of the best videos and reviews I have seen lately
I had no idea jodorowsky made graphic novels, so thank you for making this video and the most recent one about metabarons that lead me here, I love his films so this will be right up my street
I would love to watch you and Comic Book Girl 19 talk.
I’ve seen them chat a bit on Twitter.
she's old news.
Is she still around? Followed her for a bit but she seems a little bit off - as if she honks she is the center of the universe or something. Got bored pretty quickly.
Danika is so fun! His content reminds me of her early stuff. She's going through a metamorphosis currently and I am here for it!
Yeeeeeees!!!!!! 😁🥰😁🥰😁
Jodorowsky’s Dune would’ve been a good Stoner flick if not a good dune movie
Jodorowsky's Dune would have been much, much more. The spiritual mindset & auora he was pouring into the movie, the absolutely incredible artwork, the amazingly deep and profound themes & styles he makes his movies with, the way he wanted the movie to be (or at least start) a spiritual awakening of the masses (something we still desperately need to this day), the delving into the subconscious, dark, trippy, psychedelic yet incredibly profound & meaningful tones & themes he would have brilliantly conveyed, etc. etc.
Jodo's Dune would have been a masterpiece among masterpieces and, yes, as you said, am absolutely amazing "stoner" flick.
@@vincer9960 Maybe. Just don't call it Dune.
@@vincer9960 Jodo should work with Alex Grey sometime. I feel like their two sensibilities would match perfectly.
@@EricMcLuen sheesh not precious at all 😅
As much as I like Jodorowsky's passion, let's be honest: it might have been a fantastic jaw dropping film, HOWEVER, it would NOT have been Frank Herbert's book Dune.
Re-reading The Incal, you can really see how Moebius just had a bunch of really cool set-pieces and was trying to string them along in a narrative - which is oddly thematic to the actual story of John DiFool's journey.
Fifth element is like the Incal because Moebius worked on both, and it was a homage to Heavy Metal's approach to Sci-Fi. Gimenez is also a wonderful artist! Glad to see you picking up the torch for these classics.
Seems this is going to be a movie too. Announcement about the director on Thursday according to Jodorowsky.
I’ve been on the fence on buying this for years. Thanks for giving me that last little push!
Moebius worked in The Fifth Element, so it's not exactly a rip-off
The movie drew a LOT of story elements, not just a few art style points. It also pulled a bunch from the Heavy Metal movie.
The real issue is that we don't have a real good definition of this kind of derivation, and how to credit those that you are drawing from. You cannot copyright or paten an idea. Everything we create, we do so with some kind of source of inspiration. But, if we admit we got an idea from someone else's work, then our work is deemed of less worth, and that the originator should get more credit, despite there being no legal reason for this. So, we hide our influences, and pretend that is was all our original ideas.
@@jeffeppenbach Funny thing is, the Heavy Metal franchise also originates from Moebius in a way, since he's the co-creator (with Philippe Druillet) of the original french Métal Hurlant magazine.
EVERYTHING comes from Moebius. The Fifth Element is literally Moebius fanfiction. Besson brought in Moebius and Mezieres (of Valerian) specifically saying to them, I think Hollywood stole your stuff wihout crediting you so I want to hire you directly. Blade Runner is the same, Moebius fanfiction! Ridley Scott wanted Moebius to design it but Moebius was busy. So he did a cinematic fanfiction of the Moebius style from 'The Long Tomorrow', a Heavy Metal strip he did with Dan O'Bannon. Moebius is the origin of cyberpunk like Akira as well as Star Wars.
@@jeffeppenbach George Lucas is interesting, he gets accused of ripping off but he actually pays homage to his forebears in very direct but subtle ways. One of the most interesting is that he slyly credits Moebius as the origin of Star Wars. It's hidden in plain sight, right at the start of ESB. That probe droid is straight out of Moebius's The Long Tomorrow, he paid Moebius to use it. That's him opening ESB by giving credit to Moebius for inspiring it all! But he also has forewords in Moebius art books and stuff like that, he always helped the artists who inspired him. Kurosawa is another guy he helped when Star Wars was a hit, many of Kurosawa's greatest films were made after Lucas helped resurrect his career.
@@jeffeppenbach Regardless you can say ideas are not owned by they to a degree with sheer copyright legality. There's artists especially attempt to pull narratives from lesser known works.
I have a copy of The Incal, and never really got into it and kept getting bogged down. This video helped a lot, thank you!
I really would like to see that storyboard book they made for Jodorowsky´s Dune as a art book release - I think there would have been some great imagery in Jodorowsky´s version, although, as he admitted himself, it would have been a completely different story.
I finally finished reading The Incal a few weeks ago and it was a life altering experience. It’s probably the greatest comic book that I’ve read and I have read many. Thanks for recommending this.
The Incal is good, however, The Metabarons is a much closer and more obvious shadow-adaptation of Dune. I would strongly recommend reading it as soon as you can, it's absolutely awesome.
Jajaja good one, The Incal is mainly Moebius making sense of Jodos ramblings
LOL, I love Jodo but you're not wrong. His many other graphic novels never quite reached the heights of his collab with Moebius, who was also a storyteller in his own right and did many solo works, including a famous Western series (Blueberry) under his real name Jean Giraud.
You're wrong. Jodorowsky wrote many good comics that didnt have moebius.
@@ScottPutnamART I have read many of his comics and watched many of his movies, what I write is my opinion, it`s ok to disagree, but my judgement is well informed.
@@ScottPutnamART Nobody said otherwise. The Incal is just Jodo's masterpiece, and judging by Moebius' solo work, I have a strong feeling that the latter contributed significantly more than just the art on this one.
@@mugwump7049 everyone's better with moebius. But just look at Jodo's other non moebius stuff like the bouncer, metabarons, borgias ect. You can even look at the new metabarons second cycle where Jenny frison takes over writing it's nowhere near as good
Absolutely awesome video. So glad I stumbled upon your channel!
Please do more of these!! Jodorowsky is one of my idols and hardly anyone is doing in depth analysis vids about his GNs
I'm glad you liked it. Grew up with comics like that.
Respect for continually bringing new material to the discussion.
The Incal and Metabarons books are stacked where I can always see them. What great works. There is humour like Tintin, philosophy, action. Just awesome.
1:47 “Good artists copy; great artists steal.”
-- attributed to Pablo Picasso, among others
Unfortunately, once art becomes big business and corporate lawyers get involved and start trying to enforce notions of “Intellectual Property”, the art kind of dies ...
Man, happy to have found this video...I'm excited to check out more of your content...Thanks!!!!
Juan Gimenez is a God, rest in peace legend.
No doubt!!
He should always be named in the same breath as Jean Girard and the rest of that era.
He has the best work
so sad he passed away this year! Great artist.
Just discovered your channel, absolutely love your reviews. Really well done stuff.👍
3:15 The two sisters “Animah” and “Thanatah”. One name means “life”, the other means “death”.
Oh, and don’t forget John DiFool’s inseparable companion, his pet Concrete Seagull. Not the bravest of creatures, but with some resources of its own when it comes to the crunch.
The Incal looks really interesting. You should totally review the other graphic novels too, and any others you think we might find interesting. Keep em coming!
Might have to play around with the lighting a bit, or find some solution to the issue with the glossy pages shining in your vids. You're a clever guy though, I'm sure you'll figure it out 😊💜
Just bought my copy. Thanks for the recommendation
Ooh man! The way you hold and browse these graphic novels is hurting me! You barbarian!!
Love your videos though!
Great review, thank you!
Im a huge fan of jodorowsky and i loved the documentary for dune. But this review made me buy the incal and after reading just the first quarter of the book i boight the final incal. Truly amazing
Quinn, this style of presentation from you is my favorite.
Thank you. Great review.
Quinn, I 100 percent agreement concerning Jodorowsky's almost "Dune". Love your content man. Keep it coming.
well congratulations you're wrong
Love your passion bro.
I’m currently reading The Incal for the first time and I’m loving it. I see why it’s considered a masterpiece!
Very cool. Thanks for this. Jodorowsky's ego around his Dune made me write him off.
Thanks for reviewing! Please review other jodo comics when you can :-)
I have to say that you crack me up. Almost every video title now is you reading/watching something for the first time and me always staring in shock thinking:" you're only NOW getting to this [fill in title of film/book I read/watched 25+++ years ago]!!??". Then, my shock turns to sadness as this says much, MUCH more about my age than anything else.😢😉😏🙄
Thank you for giving me another series to check out.
I hope you had a good holiday, Quinn.
Thanks for reviewing the Incal! Started reading it. It is something else!
My father gave me the World of Edena a couple Christmases ago, and I was blown away by it. Will definitely be checking this graphic novel out as well!
Another Great Video! Thanks, I will DEFINITELY check Out the INCAL!!
Loves the incal from back in the day
Jodorowsky used the ideas he'd have added to Dune. Thier loss not letting him make such a film. Indeed the Incal universe, really all Jodo's graphic novels are amazing.
His films are exceptional and highly regarded for decades. A master filmmaker.
I’m sure you’ll be getting some hits again on this video now that the Incal is getting made into a movie. You’re riding the wave Quinn!
Coruscant was actually inspired by the original concept designer for Star Wars Ralph Macquarie in the early 1980’s making concepts for Return of the Jedi that scene may have come from Incal but Star Wars had city planets for a while.
I am happy you, too, are a fan of the Incal! I, myself, have done a review for this amazing comic book, as well as ALL of Jodorowsky's films, too!
Great Review !
An excellent review
Great book. Very influential on future sci-fi. Glad you liked it
I'm so glad you pointed the Attack of the Clones (and basically all Prequel Trilogy) as an obvious example of homaging or ripping-off Jodorowsky, as well as Besson's Fifth Element! Many, many artists, directors, writers...were and are inspired by Jodo's masterpieces and, you know - credit should be given to the old master! And yes, it would be great to see the review of another Alejandro's masterpiece, Before the Incal, this time beautifully illustrated by Serbian maverick artist Zoran Janjetov. Final Incal is also very good, albeit different, maybe because Ladronn's different visual style. And let's not forget After the Incal, a sort of first attempt to finish the Incal saga with Moebius again as an artist! This is the work that some consider a failure (Jodo included), but is also a notable entry in Jodoverse.
The legend of what J’s Dune could have been makes perfect as it is now. Unmade, mystical, pulling on your imagination.
Meobius is just brilliant
It would've been incredible had it been made, but you do strike at a good point though you may not have realized. But sometimes when we learn about some creative work we initially catch glimpses and pieces of it before consuming it officially, and these initial leanings can be incredibly evocative, inspiring ideas and other avenues to explore, and sometimes this can be more valuable than the full thing itself.
I love Jodorowsky and haven't gotten around to reading his graphic novels. I need to check it out, I relate to themes very much. Great review! Please review more of Jodorowsky's graphic novels!
I'd say that Incal wasn't Dune "inspired". It was his fever dream and is deeply metaphysical in it's fool's journey. I love Mobius's work. It is metaphorical, satirical, and often very deep while it's deep taste for the bizarre and uncomfortable is something I enjoy. Now, the Metabarons are definitely based off of Dune. I also love Metabarons.
I'm happy to see your a member of House Atreides!!!! (I never heard of Incal but sounds interesting & gonna find it!!!)
Read about the incel? No thanks, Quinn, I'm living it.
That joke was incalled for
Damned funny.
🤦
So you're saying that you're as bad with spelling as you are with women?
Also, it's not involuntary, it's a persecution complex with a self-reinforcing unhealthy community.
Now they're gonna make a movie
A black & white edition is coming.
By the way Moebius also did concept art for several scifi movies. One of them was Alien.
People are saying that it got ripped off by Fifth Element because Moebius and Jean Giraud are one and the same person! Jean Giraud worked on the production design for Fifth Element and he also is Moebius who draw the Incal! No excuse for Star Wars though!
Thank you, I'm going to read this.
Look forward to get this graphic novel any time soon, it's was recently republished in my country
"Jodorowski's arrogance"
YES. I couldnt agree with a better word to describe him. However i've been wanting to read the Incal sooo bad! I don't know if I can ever come to respect Jodo or to forgive him in a sense, but the incal could be the first step toward. Thanks for your honest opinion Quin, i'll give some thought.
i wish mobious did a jodorowsky version of dune in a comic. big fan when i start reading heavy metal in the late 70's. funny thing is both jodorowsky, mobious and david lynch all believe in the transcendental meditation and promote that in the comic
Ive read The Incal before and its crazy you've mentioned this!!!!! Check out The Metabarons!!!
1. Another great video, Quinn.
2. Where’d ya get that shirt?
I'm glad Jodo never made Dune the film.....I loved the doc and the what if...but The Incal is pure genius and the fact that Moebius drew it is simply mesmerizing. I'm lucky in that I have a signed hc copy from 1988 and treasure it.
I remember reading excerpts from The Incal in Heavy Metal magazine.
Love that shirt!!
I am surprised with you Quinn. Coreascant in Episode 1,2and,3 came from Foundation.
Happy to see you're reading those franco-spanish classics maybe you'll like "Les technopères" even though I find it inferior. I recently re-read through "Aldebaran" and "Betelgeuse" by Leo and realized it borrows some elements from Hyperion. If you can find it in English you might like it.
Really enjoyed this video. You found a new subscriber...
Moebius could draw a happy face on a bar napkin and it would look great. On top of that, you would be able to tell that was drawn by him!
I need to get a copy of The Incal now.
You say it's for adults, but I read it as a kid and in my early teen years and absolutely loved every bit of it.
I have read both the Incal and the Metabarons; hopefully we can get a movie in the near future
I read the Incal series when Epic Comics put it out in 3 graphic novels. Didn't know there were further works in that series. Was aware of the Metabarons stuff, but just didn't bother with those.
Two of my favourite artists, and yet I've never got round to reading their work together.
I first read The Incal in the early 80s when it ran as a strip in Heavy Metal magazine. So good.
Oddly I always thought The Fifth Element ripped off the “Harry Canyon” segment from the 1981 animated Heavy Metal film.