Dune (2021) Review | Quinn's Ideas

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  • @QuinnsIdeas
    @QuinnsIdeas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4604

    14:52 My God, Jason Idaho.

    • @Kachna1989
      @Kachna1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      We are going tomorrow, can't wait to see my man crush in a movie based on one of my fav. books :D

    • @user-lp7tx1fe6t
      @user-lp7tx1fe6t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

      To get more into the part he changed his surname, respect

    • @Driretlan
      @Driretlan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Ah yes, the serial Jasons.

    • @thealexkirschproject8036
      @thealexkirschproject8036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yeah I picked up on that too.

    • @chugg159
      @chugg159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Borne and Mamoa are related by First-Name.

  • @OnlyStarWars2187
    @OnlyStarWars2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1656

    Now let’s hope two things:
    1- DUNE Part 1 Extended Edition Director’s Cut
    2- DUNE Part 2

    • @Pete...NoNotThatOne
      @Pete...NoNotThatOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Part 2 first, then work on the DC.

    • @TheVagabond627
      @TheVagabond627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      An extended cut is not happening

    • @learning2727
      @learning2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I read within the last day or so that a sequel is okayed. Maybe it was wrong though, I'm not claiming to know.
      But I am extremely hopeful.

    • @jamesoloughlin
      @jamesoloughlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Hope a Part Three (based on Massiah) would round things out well.

    • @ricky865
      @ricky865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      What I've heard is that it is not actually a two-part movie it's in fact going to be a trilogy with the second movie covering the second part of the first novel and the third movie covering the second novel Dune Messiah. If this is true I hope that they do the other books too.

  • @westleystewart
    @westleystewart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4517

    The two things I’ve been looking forward to this year: Dune and Quinn’s reaction to Dune.

    • @gloriaredmon-booth6572
      @gloriaredmon-booth6572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Agreed!

    • @hyplerai
      @hyplerai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Me too

    • @GrizzlyAdams77
      @GrizzlyAdams77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same here!

    • @torquilcolbo1589
      @torquilcolbo1589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Came here to say that, haha. Seeing this video appear made me so happy. (I'm seeing it this weekend so I'll hold off on actually watching this yet. I'll be back to hear Quinn's thoughts, though!)

    • @bruns.like.spoons9251
      @bruns.like.spoons9251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly!

  • @Unpainted_Huffhines
    @Unpainted_Huffhines 3 ปีที่แล้ว +705

    I loved what they did with the Sardaukar. People often overlook, the Sardaukar worshipped the Emperor, so portraying them as a fanatical cult, with elaborate rituals was spot on.

    • @thursoberwick1948
      @thursoberwick1948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      The Sardaukar are the best thing in this film

    • @Unpainted_Huffhines
      @Unpainted_Huffhines 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      If the Emperor commands it, it is done.

    • @richardthompson5363
      @richardthompson5363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      It was also just a really efficient way to introduce and explain them. In the book there’s a decent amount of exposition about the emperor’s Sardaukar and how terrifying and almost inhuman they are. I was a little worried the movie wouldn’t be able to capture that but they managed to do it with a single scene that was only a minute or two long.

    • @VespoLiveGaming
      @VespoLiveGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Definite warhammer 40k vibe coming from them... which is accurate since 40k basically got the idea from the Sardaukar.

    • @TealWolf26
      @TealWolf26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I got some crazed space viking vibes from them. A++

  • @Iranda_
    @Iranda_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    There is this beautifully devised scene in the movie, when Duncan arrives in the desert to save Jessica and Paul and they all hug like family, and then Duncan gets a hold of himself, calls Jessica "My Lady" and pays homage to Paul, the new duke. Absolutely wonderful.

    • @katarzynapodgorska5549
      @katarzynapodgorska5549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I also love this scene. It gives emotional depth to characters, makes them more human. Great writing:)

    • @adam872
      @adam872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah how good was that. The love that Duncan has for Paul and his family is so evident in that scene.

    • @torrhenstark5876
      @torrhenstark5876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Incredible musical moment in that scene, too.

    • @Iranda_
      @Iranda_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@torrhenstark5876 Which means I must see this movie again...

    • @mark261166
      @mark261166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes it was very moving. I had my doubts about the choice of Jason Momoa as Duncan, but he 'owned' that role.

  • @AscendantStoic
    @AscendantStoic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    Someone actually made an interesting observation that the visions Paul saw in the movie are actually not "alternate" timelines but rather they are metaphorical interpretations of what happens, remember Chani gave Paul the knife he used to kill Jamis, and we know Paul heard "when you take a life you take your own", so Chani stabbing him in the vision is a metaphor for her giving him the knife he used to kill Jamis and therefor kill the young naïve Paul for good.
    Also the vision with Jamis teaching him the ways of the Fremen was also a metaphor from Jamis not only showing Paul who far the Fremen are willing to go for their beliefs but also by killing him Paul literally becames one of them, so in a way he taught him a lot about the Fremen, it's quite an interesting way to interpret those scenes and surely holds some weight.

    • @eXponentia
      @eXponentia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Just saw the movie so I'm a bit late but one thing I don't see people mention about Jamis teaching Paul is that Paul has a vision of what Jamis is going to teach him, and thereby is taught that exact thing by Jamis in that moment. He never has to have Jamis teach it to him 'in real life' because he did it in the vision. A self fulfilling vision in a way.

    • @MatalicMan
      @MatalicMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That's exactly how I took it!! In regards to Fremen. I got to watch it again, and I just finished it. Man, such a great movie!!

    • @christianwilson5441
      @christianwilson5441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This how I saw them in the books too. Which is why he needed to take the Water of Life.

    • @nifftbatuff676
      @nifftbatuff676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice.

    • @Angela-sf5vt
      @Angela-sf5vt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This makes more sense, I feel a little bit better now knowing this and not that he ended up having to kill his future good friend and guide. I was really bummed for him lol

  • @aaronhalloway7237
    @aaronhalloway7237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +687

    Best visual depiction of The Voice: The Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam commands Paul to come to her and he instantly finds that he has already done it. The sound and Chalamet's expressiveness in that moment had the audience FEELING the distress that Paul must have experienced at that violation of his person and his will.

    • @theexmann
      @theexmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No, the best depiction of the "voice" is in the Lynch movie. And the costumes of the BG witches in Denis' movie, especially the reverend mother, looks ridiculous compared to the Lynch costumes which were fantastic.

    • @aaronhalloway7237
      @aaronhalloway7237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@theexmann Interesting. I put both of those things in my top 20 reasons Lynch's Dune was nearly intolerable. Oh well, to each their own, I guess. I'll probably never understand furries, either.

    • @sherklokholmes-er4mw
      @sherklokholmes-er4mw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@theexmann Lynch's version was pure shit . I can not even watch half an hour .

    • @BoxStudioExecutive
      @BoxStudioExecutive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@sherklokholmes-er4mw I watched the sci-fi channel adaption first and couldn’t even watch five minutes of Lynch’s movie

    • @MollyFC
      @MollyFC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@theexmann those "hairlines" though

  • @IlyaKralinsky
    @IlyaKralinsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +783

    I actually think the visual was a clever, most succinct way to explain Mentats: his eyes turned white, and he did a complex calculation. I think that was the quickest, most clever way to explain his status as a human computer.

    • @FatDave2112
      @FatDave2112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      I loved that as well. A really nice touch. Still, I'm hoping the mentats (and all the palace intrigue) are explored in greater detail in a 3.5 hour director's cut. 😃

    • @jccouture13
      @jccouture13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I agree, but I also think they could have utilized it a little more to drive it home, and def do a little more with Piter. While I think the average viewer will understand what happened, I don't think they will understand the why. Maybe they will develop that backstory of the world a little bit more in the next movies.

    • @MrChoklad
      @MrChoklad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@jccouture13 mentats are definetely an important part of Dune's lore and story, but in this first movie I feel like it was a reasonable cut, it wouldn't have had much use to explain who they are and what they do considering what happens, not why it happens, just what happens, it's a lot if you think about it, especially for people not already familiar with the story. I'm sure we'll gonna get a deeper explanation in the next movie(s)

    • @drobinson-uo7ic
      @drobinson-uo7ic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I haven't seen the film yet but the fact that Stephen McKinley Henderson wasn't featured in any promotion as part of the "ensemble cast" made me assume Thufir Hawat was getting phased out compared to the book, where they expanded Duncan Idaho since they got Jason Momoa and wanted to have more action for the film to be more marketable.

    • @FatDave2112
      @FatDave2112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @asdfasdf Looked to me like more models than CGI. I'm dying to see the "making of" featurette though.

  • @MitchJohnson0110
    @MitchJohnson0110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    21:45 She didn't just command it to leave. She used the voice. Which was a really cool detail, because it reassures us that the creature is a cognizant human to some degree which makes it even worse.

    • @SightForMemories
      @SightForMemories ปีที่แล้ว +13

      the Harkonnens were brutal to the ultimate... My guess is, it was probably Wanna being fused with others, in a multituous body. and the Baron lied when he said she was dead, which is just cruel... so cruel, wow.

    • @rodrigobogado8756
      @rodrigobogado8756 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@SightForMemories the Baron didn't lie, whatever that thing was, it wasn't Yueh wife

    • @npvuvuzela
      @npvuvuzela 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rodrigobogado8756 abstraction and differentiation is illusionary after all... potato po"tah"to

    • @captainfach
      @captainfach 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm guessing that is yuehs wife

  • @aspejcher
    @aspejcher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    The concept of Paul having prescient visions of him and Jamis being friends and then, in reality, having to kill him in a duel is still blowing my mind.

    • @MrBenjaminsisko
      @MrBenjaminsisko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      I was a friend of Jamis," Paul whispered. "Jamis taught me... that... when you kill... you pay for it."

    • @kerrissedai6857
      @kerrissedai6857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Love seeing a different perspective on a well loved work. What a wonderful job the actor who played Jamis did. It occurred to me that part of why Paul chose his path was because of Chani.

    • @justin-md4xm
      @justin-md4xm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@kerrissedai6857 he fell in love with her and wanted to tell her when she gave him the knife

    • @DB-ku7vu
      @DB-ku7vu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      In the vision before the fight while Paul is bleeding out Jamis comes and takes his hand. I think that’s why Paul takes his hand afterward

    • @WickedMo13
      @WickedMo13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The head witch planted that vision in his mind

  • @ileutur6863
    @ileutur6863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +575

    I actually prefer that the emperor wasn't shown at all. The previous movies portrayed him as some sort of scheming bond villain, while he's supposed to be this powerful looming force

    • @totalpartykill999
      @totalpartykill999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      well he is definitly showing up in part 2.

    • @Sam_T2000
      @Sam_T2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      the Sci-Fi Channel miniseries had that scene where Paul talks with Irulan at the banquet on Arrakis. I don’t recall if that was actually in the book or not, but I think not… regardless, I thought that was a great scene. it gave the Emperor and the galactic politics and such some representation, but also gave Paul some humanity.

    • @LN.2233
      @LN.2233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Sam_T2000 Paul didn't talk to Irulan in the books at that point.

    • @ClockworkWyrm
      @ClockworkWyrm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Sam_T2000 I quite liked the Sci-Fi miniseries of Dune, though the director's cut has inexplicable nudity which adds nothing, and the Children of Dune.
      If this new version is as good as those I'll be more than happy.

    • @danielbretall2236
      @danielbretall2236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The conceit I will make to Lynch's film, my wife and daughter, who went in cold, knowing nothing about the franchise, and were confused on the difference between the Baron and the Emperor. Its amazing what you take for granted when you've lived and breathed a series for 30 odd years.

  • @billdoor1569
    @billdoor1569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    this movie taught me that Star Wars utterly wasted Oscar Isacs

    • @unrulycrow6299
      @unrulycrow6299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Fr I was amazed by his performance in Dune

    • @Shamino1
      @Shamino1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I found Issacs was really wasted in Dune. Amazing that it takes nearly an hour to even hear his name- Duke Leto. He has astoundingly few lines, a single intimate interaction with his son, and generally walks around looking confused while his lines indicate that he's actually quite aware of the situation- the situation is just never really explained to the audience until it happens. Great from a visual perspective, utterly terrible as a character-building exercise. I'm well aware Duke Leto's only around for half the book anyways, but he seemed so stilted and 'out of place,' even more so for a person who *should* be out of place on Arrakis, his acting instead felt like it was coached to be as robotic and reserved as possible.

    • @Shamino1
      @Shamino1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nokeksgiven Agreed on all fronts.

    • @Lifesizemortal
      @Lifesizemortal ปีที่แล้ว

      He was wasted in this ass of a movie too

    • @tuckernutter
      @tuckernutter ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​​​@@Shamino1 OK you obviously didn't read the book because Leto died in the first 3rd (the book is separated into 3 "books"/parts). Also these are evolved humans in the distant future they're not going to act like us, your suspension of disbelief should have activated at the 0:00 mark of the movie so him knowing what needs to be done is chalked up to him being informed on his new position and likely spying in their arch enemies the Harkonnens and their methods of spice excursions while he was investigating the Fremen. I'd go on how your take is useless but frankly I've already wasted enough time writing this

  • @gwpeoples
    @gwpeoples 3 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    Jamis was one of the most fascinating characters to me. In Paul's vision's he's a friend and mentor. Then Paul meets him and he's like "You can't be fremen I demand to kill you and your mother for your water". And then Paul has to fight him to the death. I couldn't stop thinking about that after the movie. Then I remembered that fremen have spice in their blood. It's likely that some of them can see into the future like Paul . Maybe when Jamis saw Paul he recognized him. He knew that he had to give Paul a hard introduction into fremen culture and test him to see if he was really the messiah. If Paul failed, oh well, he wasn't the messiah. If he passed, Jamis would be dead. And he chose to go through with it anyway. In a way Jamis was a friend to Paul and he did give him a crash course in the ways of the fremen.

    • @MidLoafCrisis
      @MidLoafCrisis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Oh man that's an awesome read. I was so puzzled by that. Assumed I'd misappropriated the two faces but actually yes they are the same person and this theory absolutely works

    • @astralax
      @astralax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Or maybe he [SPOILERS FOR DUNE MESSIAH] saw what the Fremen would become if they followed Paul and tried to stop it.

    • @Outlawsrevenge1020
      @Outlawsrevenge1020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That is actually a great insight. I felt terrible for Paul having to kill someone who could have been a good friend and mentor.

    • @hideousruin
      @hideousruin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@astralax Well then he didn't look far enough. Everything Paul does leads to the God Emperor and thus the golden path and mankind's true freedom.

    • @fruitygarlic3601
      @fruitygarlic3601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great theory! It brings to mind something Jessica said during the "I am a friend of Jamis" scene, where she claims that his spirit surrendered to Paul in service of the Fremen dream. The possibility that she could have been partially aware of the truth, instead of just BG bullshitting, has made the funeral scene that much more impactful for me. Other fans' interpretations of the film have enriched my experience of the book, so thank you.

  • @tomitiustritus6672
    @tomitiustritus6672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    I love the tiny detail that Liet Kynes, when she got pierced by that Sardaukars blade through her stillsuit, she 'bleeds' water from her suit. That was such an absolutely poetic moment.

    • @rickymartin4457
      @rickymartin4457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I noticed that too, that was so subtle but genius.

    • @ubabes._
      @ubabes._ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can u explain how it was poetic. That was a moment I skipped back to because it caught my attention. But my intuition told me it’s not something I’ll be able to figure out

    • @Starsview72
      @Starsview72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@ubabes._ I think it has to do with the importance of water in myth and actual need on the planet. How much Liet’s life was about changing the face of the planet from a desert. Water is so much more important than blood on this planet.

    • @tomitiustritus6672
      @tomitiustritus6672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@ubabes._ For one, it symbolizes that she IS a Fremen inside. Especially beautiful as this is the moment she is finally, in her last moments able too look the imperial lackeys in the eye and tell them they can put their emperror where the sun doesn‘t shine, tha she, only serves shai-hulud. She struggled with having to keep up her sharade and play along with her imperial orders to be able to play the long game for her people. Now, as she looks down and is bleeding water out of her stillsuit like a Fremen, she not only realizes this is her end, but also that she will drop the theatre and die the proud Fremen she really is and not getting executed by the Sardaukar like a creature of the emperror.
      For nr 2, that may be a spoiler for part 2. Just keep that detail in mind.

    • @thestarseeker8196
      @thestarseeker8196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Sharon was 100% boss as Kynes and she got a boss exit. Loved loved loved her.

  • @jameshardison5618
    @jameshardison5618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    Jamis was a teacher in Paul’s vision. In this reality, Jamis teaches Paul the harsh reality of the people of Dune and in his death, Paul’s education begins.

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I also like Paul's reaction to Jamis' death. He was so sorry because he meant no harm and thought Jamis would be his teacher

    • @doriangordon3369
      @doriangordon3369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Janis was my friend and he taught me about the desert. one of the things i like most considering the visions are entirely made up.

    • @btmalo6817
      @btmalo6817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beat me to it!

    • @BleydTorvall
      @BleydTorvall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I feel like they wanted to make a lot of Paul's visions be more metaphorical than literal to keep them more mysterious and ambiguous for the viewers. It's not especially fun for the audience to see what's going to happen ahead of time, but they have to get the idea of Paul seeing the future in some form or fashion. I think this was a good compromise.

    • @Zero_Point_Energy1
      @Zero_Point_Energy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wonder if they’ll cover how Paul inherits Jamis’ possessions and responsibility for his wife. The Janis storyline is very important in the books and it’s cool that the movie understands that.

  • @CunnininnuC
    @CunnininnuC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +761

    The way they did the voice was so good. When Paul tells Jessica to get off of him in the tent I literally jumped

    • @Curtis006
      @Curtis006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I noticed people in my theater jumping every time the voice was used, and I loved it

    • @c.t.nelson4314
      @c.t.nelson4314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same

    • @Ally-qp3ww
      @Ally-qp3ww 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yo same

    • @mitchkroska3678
      @mitchkroska3678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      seriously, when you read it you only get the idea that he's mad and yells but in the movie it like makes your bones vibrate

    • @Vincent_Morrow
      @Vincent_Morrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I think the voice effect is why Imax has been pushed for this movie.

  • @hodges1263
    @hodges1263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    One thing you didn't mention that really stood out to me: we finally got fully realized ornithopters. The ones in Dune 1984 were ridiculous. The ones in this film were incredible.

  • @snarflcat6187
    @snarflcat6187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +488

    Well, That's That. Mamoa's name is now officially "Jason Idaho."
    Done.

    • @simonambler3967
      @simonambler3967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Duncan

    • @snarflcat6187
      @snarflcat6187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@simonambler3967
      The OP misspoke about 3/4 of the way through his video.
      He said "Jason Idaho. Listen back and you'll find it.
      It was a funny stumble, and I Declared that's Mamosa's official name, now.
      Tou know, as a joke?
      Don't they have jokes on your planet???

    • @RBEmpathy
      @RBEmpathy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@snarflcat6187 on my planet, the legend of Jason Idaho is everywhere.
      Actor, desert warrior, water drinker.

    • @simonambler3967
      @simonambler3967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sorry, misunderstood

    • @steevan
      @steevan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@simonambler3967 no..... don't mention duncan ... my heart

  • @alexcolton721
    @alexcolton721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    I got chills when Paul started freaking out during his vision of the Jihad. Such a good performance by Timothee Chalamet.

    • @murtumaton
      @murtumaton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The acting was good but I wished that the vision would have been slightly more elaborate. I mean, my first thought when I saw those burning bodies they were just a aftermath of the battle of Arrakeen. Not the result of a holy war across thousands of worlds.

    • @Zombieskelper
      @Zombieskelper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@murtumaton Thought that was the most glaring weakness in the film. The jihad that was going to rage across the galaxy killing billions was conveyed by a couple of dozen folk fighting, a glimpse of a small pile of bodies burning and some soldiers saluting Paul on his ship. It's small scale made Paul's reaction seem excessively histrionic.

    • @zacfubar1
      @zacfubar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@murtumaton Agreed. The one shot of crusaders looking up at Paul on his flagship in a worshipful manner was the only scene that gave me the horror vibes that holy war should inspire. Still a great movie, just would be even better if there were more scenes of the future Paul is trying to avoid.

    • @Zombieskelper
      @Zombieskelper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wzero07 For me, it would have worked if the vision had been more harrowing

  • @holdyourfire74
    @holdyourfire74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    I liked Duncan's line, "Dreams make good stories, but everything important happens when we are awake. That's when we make things happen." (I think that's the line) It's another hint that Paul's dreams and visions are not set in stone.

    • @harshalshah4685
      @harshalshah4685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The sleeper has awakened.

    • @johnsterling6948
      @johnsterling6948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      “The sleeper must awaken!” Duke Leto

    • @valeriy8502
      @valeriy8502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We are bound to fate but have a hand in shaping that fate. The thing is, everyone else has a hand in it too, in varying degrees. So outcomes can be hard to predict.

  • @Blacksmith__
    @Blacksmith__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    My jaw dropped and I couldn't stop myself from saying "ohhhhhh shit" when Duncan regained consciousness and pulled the sword out of his own chest to keep fighting. I was not expecting it at all. He really died like a legendary hero, Valhalla for him guaranteed.

    • @helvete_ingres4717
      @helvete_ingres4717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      that scene (and that character in general, killing hundreds of the emperor's troops working against the whole tone of the scene that things are hopeless for the Atreides) is a blatant concession to the Marvel audience, as was the casting of that actor who is known for 'le epic and badass' physical roles

    • @benjalucian1515
      @benjalucian1515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@helvete_ingres4717 - untrue. In the Dune universe, Duncan Idaho and Gurney Halleck are legendary warriors in their own time. They've trained Atreides troops, which are why they are becoming a match for the Sardaukar. SPOILER AHEAD!!!!
      In the next books, the Sardaukar were so impressed with Idaho, having found the bodies of 30 fallen Sardaukar around him, they scooped up his body and began to clone him.

    • @Blacksmith__
      @Blacksmith__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@helvete_ingres4717 That's a bit silly. Acts of extreme heroism in war are real, even if they are a beaten down trope in cinema. When I saw the movie I couldn't help but think of the unknown viking who died defending Stamford Bridge against impossible odds, killing over a dozen men.

    • @helvete_ingres4717
      @helvete_ingres4717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Blacksmith__ it's not the heroism, it's the way it undermines the sense of the scene the film has built up - that this is a hopeless situation, and the enemies are a real threat. The film undermines itself for the sake of having the same 'badass' fight scenes & choreography that every action movie has, b/c imo the Marvel crowd don't want to see anything w/o that generic shit. There is a reason all the trailers and publicity played up those generic action aspects of the movie, you know. Though I very much liked the action sequences (involving the spaceships bombarding the palace etc.) that actually worked *with* the tone and idea of the scene ('this is an extermination')

    • @christianhartman1298
      @christianhartman1298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@helvete_ingres4717 you sound bitter, how did Jason Mamoa hurt you?

  • @jaytamati7558
    @jaytamati7558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    The Priest throat-singing on Salusa Secundus was a perfect touch. Loved the Sardaukar language also.

    • @Aurora2097
      @Aurora2097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The Sardaukar were really good! They should have had longer hair though 😆

    • @MrJasonodonnell
      @MrJasonodonnell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      My Girlfriend was not too impressed by this scene due to cultural reasons, But overall she enjoyed the movie very much, she noted how multicultural it was without it been forced and preached under the guise of social justice.

    • @ganymede242
      @ganymede242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for mentioning. I loved those aspects too!

    • @bwrp7977
      @bwrp7977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markv785 I think because it seemed kinda ripped off from stuff like Tuvan throat singing

    • @daveeol1987
      @daveeol1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@bwrp7977 and she was offended by that why?

  • @Blynat
    @Blynat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    When Jamis Started yelling during the duel he sounded pissed, surprised, sad and ashamed all at a once. Great acting and very telling for the story and emotionally impactful if you're paying attention.

    • @TheRusty
      @TheRusty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Yes! Stilgar asking "Is he toying with him?" followed by Jamis screaming really lets you know that Jamis KNOWS he's lost, and feels like Paul is just shaming him by drawing it out. Just real pain and rage and despair all together.

    • @elliotsmith9812
      @elliotsmith9812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You see Paul get his blade to the others neck repeatedly. That tells a huge story in a half second.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It is also part of the Bene Geserit fighting technique to wait until the opppnent has drawn themselves into anger and then they are likely to make a mistake.

    • @unclegene5372
      @unclegene5372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      In the book Paul is so used to fighting opponents with shields on that he slows down his strikes and it appears to the fremen that Paul is humiliating Jamis. It’s not the case he’s just doing it out of ha it. After Jamie is dead Paul cries and the fremen are deeply moved when they see him cry they cite prophecy of the mahdi “he gives water to the dead”

    • @edmundt.buckley6858
      @edmundt.buckley6858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@unclegene5372 I don't think they got to that yet. That takes place in the sitche, when they all speak of Jamis and what he taught them.

  • @blakejohnson4713
    @blakejohnson4713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    I loved that Paul had a vision in the film where Jamis tells him to "follow him" into the desert and then Jamis' body is at the head of the procession of Fremen heading towards the sietch. Both physically and metaphorically, Jamis helps lead Paul into his place among the Fremen, even though he died in this specific timeline.

    • @nicokrasnow1851
      @nicokrasnow1851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Also "follow your Friend" is a nice foreshadowing to "I was friend of Jamis"

    • @Rietto
      @Rietto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I was really disappointed they didn't have Paul crying after the duel. It made such an impression on the Fremen and was such a impactful thing to them. But that was a minor nitpick, I suppose.

    • @nicokrasnow1851
      @nicokrasnow1851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Rietto I think we'll have that with the funeral in the second movie

    • @Hartwig870
      @Hartwig870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was completely metaphorical, there was no timeline where he was literal friends with Jamis.

    • @ew3606
      @ew3606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Rietto he did have tears, however it wasn't commented on by the rest of the group

  • @billmcnally6392
    @billmcnally6392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Forgot to mention how Golda Rosheuvel knocked Mapes out of the park, in spite of it being a much smaller role. Her reaction to Jessica receiving and recognizing the chrysknife was a huge moment, and one that sent shivers down my spine.

    • @11venom
      @11venom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still think the blade should have been sheathed like they do later. Mapes would have used her own blood to plant the initial seed and would connect it to later

    • @hurgcat
      @hurgcat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @11venom yeah its my gripe but that shriek is just *chefs kiss*

  • @austinharp7264
    @austinharp7264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    Luckily Villeneuve has confirmed that in Part 2 he’s going to go in depth with the Mentats, as well as other elements he didn’t completely go into with part 1

    • @NicholasAlm
      @NicholasAlm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I'm glad they're going to elaborate on some elements in the 2nd movie but it's also faithful to the book to leave things vague. I remember not grasping all the elements until the 5th book. Finally that was when things introduced in the first book truly made sense.

    • @joelmann6934
      @joelmann6934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are they doing a part 2? I thought it was still to be decided if part 2 was even going to be made.

    • @jenspilgrim
      @jenspilgrim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A pity that half of the mentats available are already dead then. And the other half captive and tortured.

    • @Baronstone
      @Baronstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL, if he takes more than one more movie to finish this story it is going to be a complete POS. He is already pushing the edges of the SJW bullshit and you know it is only going to get worse IF they let him make another one.

    • @s427
      @s427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@joelmann6934 I don't think it has been decided yet. We'll have to see how the movie performs in the US. Villeneuve said that Warner loves the movie, so IMO even if it's not a huge success, there's a good chance it will be greenlit. The good news is that it's doing quite well in Europe where it came out a month earlier (it's actually the biggest success *of the year* in France). I think we can be cautiously optimistic (and Denis seems to be optimistic at this point).

  • @joshuajordan6278
    @joshuajordan6278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    I work at a movie theater. Having read the books, I recognized that the ending of the movie was nowhere near the end of the book. I knew the filmmakers had done a good job when I heard theater-goers walk out of this half-finished story and say that it was the best science fiction movie they've ever seen.

    • @josephbrennan370
      @josephbrennan370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would love to work at a movie theatre lol

    • @joshhall5172
      @joshhall5172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's reassuring to hear. I watched it, loved it, but had this growing worry that I was only loving it because of my prior knowledge of the material and that some pretty important stuff might be lost on the general audience

    • @InvaderG
      @InvaderG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@joshhall5172 i saw it with a friend who was semi familiar and a friend that had no prior knowledge. i myself am very familiar. we all loved it. we did have to do some explaining to my friend who had no prior knowledge, but it’s a near 3 hour movie. that’s expected.
      i think gen audiences will be fine after two watches.

    • @IHJello
      @IHJello 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joshhall5172 as a person that enjoys indepth scifi and never read a book just stuff on youtube. It was good. Beginning drags, but after seeing it once I wouldnt mind sitting through it again not feeling like im in a rush. My family was meh on it. My cousin was the one who liked it the most along side me, but both of us dont know when pt2 is coming thats kind of rough, but in time a whole set of Villeneuve Dune movies will be epic.

    • @jb111082
      @jb111082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@overtoke I like to forget that the 1984 movie exists. I prefer the ScyFy Channel's mini-series over the Lynch film.

  • @christofkugel4907
    @christofkugel4907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    The "what have you done to me?" - scene is grandios. I LOVE that he used the voice on his own mother.

  • @reizig
    @reizig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I think Paul's visions of Jamis in the desert was accurate, but not literal.
    Jamis says that he will be Paul's guide through the desert - and he is, in a way. It's through Jamis' death that Paul is allowed to join the Fremen and follow his path.
    Like how his visions of his own literal death seem to represent in actuality his symbolic death as Paul and rebirth as the Kwisatz Haderach.

    • @culturecanvas777
      @culturecanvas777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, exactly.
      I think the visions transmit meaning instead of being from different timelines.

    • @Hartwig870
      @Hartwig870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@culturecanvas777 Oh my god, I found the other two people who actually got it!
      The vision of his death may have been his last chance to avoid the golden path, still I think it was symbolic.

    • @jordanoneill7052
      @jordanoneill7052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well this was symbolic in the context of the films, but in the lore, Paul doesn't have "symbolic" visions as far as I recall. Within the literal story, it was definitely an alternate timeline that could have happened.

    • @blacBroly2
      @blacBroly2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. The visions of him being killed and him being friends with the people killing him felt like a reference to how what’s to come will be a lesson to strengthen him while killing off his weaknesses, and those he sees in the visions are his dear teachers

    • @khezupreme4318
      @khezupreme4318 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it was a possibility that would have happened in future with both of them alive. He envisioned it with his prescience. It's not really the future, but a possibility of a future. He went through that vision like reading a book and acquired the skills and knowledge from Jamie, before going through another vision of a possibility where Jamil killed him. Using these knowledge he turned around those two future possibilities. Pretty mind-blowing. I don't know if that what exactly happened, but for me it's something that is so genius and they managed to tell it without a single word, only through scenes. It's amazing.

  • @zachpeterson4176
    @zachpeterson4176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +608

    The way that Josh Brolin delivers the line of "They aren't human they are BRUTAL" makes me shiver

    • @olderloverxx
      @olderloverxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I hear ya! He fucking meant it.

    • @ImTheMousse
      @ImTheMousse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      probably my favourite single line in the entire film

    • @milkoil
      @milkoil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Same. Small parts but awesome performances from the actors. I really felt they nailed it.

    • @gurgamous
      @gurgamous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@ImTheMousse my desert, my dune

    • @jamiekuryla3940
      @jamiekuryla3940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Oh yeah everyone was into this, its like they actually felt the material rather than just signed on for a contract, all sides of the conflict seemed totally into it an play as if they were that person.

  • @officialgrindr
    @officialgrindr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    I didn’t even know what Dune was before this movie got announced and here I am fully immersed in its lore. It’s world-building is so separate from that of other space operas. I’m fascinated and already can’t wait for part two!

    • @Hevvvyyy
      @Hevvvyyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fr, I only read the first graphic novel type book that my brother had lent me. This and the halo universe are great

    • @thursoberwick1948
      @thursoberwick1948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      George Lucas stole from it big time in various ways

    • @officialgrindr
      @officialgrindr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@thursoberwick1948 I’m seeing that now!

    • @224dot0dot0dot10
      @224dot0dot0dot10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@officialgrindr George Lucas isn't the only writer who copied Dune. The creators of the Warhammer 40k science fiction universe said in an interview that they also were influenced by Dune.

    • @theexmann
      @theexmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch the Lynch version. It's better and more entertaining.

  • @jasonlescalleet5611
    @jasonlescalleet5611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I loved that we got a nice close up of the original Muad’dib, the mouse, including seeing how it gets water to drink. It is clear why this animal is so respected by the Fremen, with 0 expositional dialogue to establish this.
    Also nice to see ornithopters with actual flapping wings.

    • @MattWeser
      @MattWeser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ooh, the ornithopters were incredible. Their sound design was perfect. Apparently they had 45 minutes of thopter time in the movie, which I am more than pleased about.

    • @WeirdMedicine
      @WeirdMedicine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES! I hope people who haven't read the books remember that moment when he takes the name...

    • @Vathorus
      @Vathorus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And it's so symbolic, when it's right after he emerges from the tent under sand, where he had his intense vision of jihad... "They will kill in my name" he says, but instead of speaking they name... Villeneuve shows the desert mouse. Wow. He really gets the "show don't tell" principle.

    • @bry8636
      @bry8636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Vathorus good catch- I didn’t put that together consciously

    • @emilywilhite5807
      @emilywilhite5807 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes the thopters were amazing. Loved the design.

  • @BoydsofParadise
    @BoydsofParadise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    After a long movie dry spell, "DUNE" has reignited my love of film like no other. Master-class film making!

    • @Attmay
      @Attmay 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It had the opposite effect for me.

    • @IchigoKurosakicool
      @IchigoKurosakicool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Attmay sad

  • @josefonseca6144
    @josefonseca6144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    Jamis is technically Paul’s guidance into Fremen culture. He’s death will display ritual combat water collection of the dead and those rites so yeah he’s guiding in that sense.

    • @deeem9500
      @deeem9500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I was a friend of Jamis. He taught me that when you kill, you pay for it.

    • @CajunerdMedia
      @CajunerdMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I was disappointed that they fought in their stillsuits

    • @Dr_Robi
      @Dr_Robi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s exactly how I saw it Jose.

    • @JesseRinaldiDrums
      @JesseRinaldiDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah, it illustrates Paul's answer to the Reverend Mother when she asks “Do you often dream things that happen, just as you dreamed them?” - "..Not exactly"

    • @myopiumsongs
      @myopiumsongs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@deeem9500 I was a friend of Jamis...that two-faced bastard. "Come with me; so I can take your water." Do NOT ride on his sandworm, creepy bastard living in his mother's sietch. (I jest, but my g-d, what Denis did for this character, and his portrayal by Babs Olusanmokun. AMAZING.) P.S. *That* is how you take liberties with the source material, kids.

  • @Anubis22774
    @Anubis22774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    The way you see Paul dying is actually symbolism because Paul Atreides had to die in order for Muad’dib to rise and be born.

    • @Tleilaxu0
      @Tleilaxu0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That's how I interpreted it while watching the movie, too. Similiarly, the reason for the vision of Chani "killing" Paul is that she's the one who handed him the knife, which is what enables him to become a killer (and in turn, "kill" his old self).
      In fact, I assumed the whole reason why the camera lingers on Chani for so long after the duel, was so that the audience would have time to remember that vision and connect the dots.

    • @nodrama490
      @nodrama490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah the old must die for the new to rise

    • @Alewort
      @Alewort 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In terms of the movie, yes, it serves that purpose. In terms of what it is happening IN the movie, no. Paul doesn't see visions of metaphors; he's prescient and literally sees possible futures.

    • @keatsnp
      @keatsnp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That little desert mouse foreshadowing was great

  • @Jarnagua
    @Jarnagua 3 ปีที่แล้ว +342

    Quinn's deep understanding of the material, his passion for the books, and his ease at discussing it, makes this channel - and Danika's channel - the "go to" place for Dune ideas. There is no better on the internet.

    • @myrnarenaud2080
      @myrnarenaud2080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes! i am listening to Quinn this very moment. As a Theatre person, I appreciate his voice and diction. Thank you Quinn!

    • @rhideflory
      @rhideflory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My first introduction to Dune was Comic Book girl

    • @joshuagray4266
      @joshuagray4266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can't wait for Danika's review. She'll be more real and not act like this movie is perfect.

    • @partridgestorm
      @partridgestorm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joshuagray4266 During my first viewing of this movie I thought, "Man, Danika is going to shit a brick over how cool the Bene Gesserit are treated!" So I predict an even more of a fangirl reaction from her.

    • @a2pabmb2
      @a2pabmb2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joshuagray4266 Compared to all the previous adaptations this one might as well be perfect.

  • @teresaluz975
    @teresaluz975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    When I read Dune for the first time I had a mental picture in my mind that matches Villeneuve 's choices. The set design reminded me of the industrial architecture in the soviet union, minimalist but massive, brutal, no paint, just concrete, metal and wood. The costume design was top tier. The music was otherworldly. Timothée Chalamet, Oscar Isaac, Rebecca Ferguson, Josh Brolin, Jason Momoa and Javier Bardem were extraordinary in their roles. Chalamet will forever be my Paul. Loved your review.

    • @upfulsoul826
      @upfulsoul826 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Timothee was really boring compared to other Pauls. You obviously find him attractive.

    • @sasha8345
      @sasha8345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      the style is brutalism, and honestly i think it’s gorgeous

    • @Pyps0403
      @Pyps0403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@upfulsoul826 😂 wtf

  • @uncleeric3317
    @uncleeric3317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    Considering the complexity of the source material, this adaptation is probably as good a Dune movie as you can make. Otherwise plan on making a GoT style tv series with a budget of about $1 billion.

    • @robinlue2008
      @robinlue2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Imo I wished they did.

    • @optimusprime3484
      @optimusprime3484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Well if they stretch this out to 3 movies (hopefully they do) they will end up paying over 1 billion with production and marketing.

    • @uncleeric3317
      @uncleeric3317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@optimusprime3484 Yes good point.

    • @angryguy3000
      @angryguy3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@optimusprime3484 they’ll probably use Dune Messiah (book 2) to stretch it into 3 movies

    • @SimplyCookingToo
      @SimplyCookingToo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kind of agree, but the decision to break the movie into two parts felt like a total fail. It feels incomplete and wrong. Liked the 1984 version better. Only thing missing was this one's production value.

  • @swordmonkey6635
    @swordmonkey6635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    I think Paul's visions of Jamis came true in a way. He did teach Paul "the ways of the desert" by making Paul kill him, not out of hate or malice, but because it was a code of honor and Jamis was insulted and enraged that Paul was "toying with him". The tenderness Paul shows the dying Jamis is the same Jamis showed Paul in his vision and I think Paul did that because he did see it in his mind and knew what to do.

    • @danielskaluba5520
      @danielskaluba5520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Isn't it cool how the director turned this particular thing into such a deep parable. It made the scene where Paul didn't want to kill him so powerful.

    • @technopirate304
      @technopirate304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That hurts to kill someone who could have been a dear friend.
      In the book at Jamis’s funeral you see that he could be a hot head, but he was a stand up dude.

    • @steampowered6883
      @steampowered6883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I did miss the interaction between Paul and his mother in that moment. When Paul kills Jamis in the book, his initial reaction is one-off exhilaration and triumph. Jessica immediately makes him feel guilty about it, to stave off any murderous appetites.

    • @technopirate304
      @technopirate304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@steampowered6883 And that kept Stilgar from seeing Paul as a sociopath who couldn’t be trusted to not turn on the tribe.

    • @thesupermikey
      @thesupermikey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      a lesser film maker would have cut back to paul remembering that dream to remind the audience and sign-post the inversion.

  • @jeanerasmus7
    @jeanerasmus7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +820

    The whole thing felt like the most expensive and extravagant passion project ever made. What an experience. Seen it three times and boy would I love to be back in there again asap. I rarely re-watch movies on the cinemas, in fact the last multiple viewings I did was back in 2002 with Two Towers. I don't care what anyone says, there will be no new sci-fi film that can top this until part 2 is made.

    • @bradchun21
      @bradchun21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      i value what u just said because the two towers was the best movie of its era fosho

    • @andrewgoudy676
      @andrewgoudy676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Took everything I was going to say and beat me to it, well done!

    • @probablyonline2020
      @probablyonline2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hopefully part 2 will happen

    • @hideousruin
      @hideousruin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Jupiter rules If you hate amazing stuff I could see how you would think it was bad.

    • @Ariarne12345
      @Ariarne12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Two towers are my fav too ❤️❤️ can re-watch back to back forever

  • @jmaguire2232
    @jmaguire2232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Not only did the director hit it out of the park, he also dreamt of making this movie since he read the book at 14. I remember seeing his movie Incendies before he had Hollywood money to play with and I couldn't be happier for him. That same intensity from Incendies (which is full-on Drama) came across in the sci-fi-context of Dune, which was amazing to me. Dude is immensely talented, especially at creating a taught, intense tone. His filmmaking grabs you by the balls.

    • @viviantriana5146
      @viviantriana5146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      cannot agree more. I love Denis Villeneuve. His nuanced storytelling, never willing to define absolutes of good and evil, his care for letting the viewer feel and actually observe the scenarios, the surroundings. He asks from the viewer to compromise, to be alert, to pay attention and activate all senses, and it pays off beautifully every time. He even makes a movie like Sicario work, he even makes the mafia world not have good and evil clearly delineated. And we all know we need directors like Villeneuve, in a generation that seems to have lost the capacity for observing the world in a nuanced colorful way instead of a black and white picture

    • @user-ve5ln5le9y
      @user-ve5ln5le9y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Before Incendies there was Polytechnique, about the Montreal Massacre. Intense.

    • @jmaguire2232
      @jmaguire2232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-ve5ln5le9y Haven't seen that one yet but it's high up on the list. I've been watching the movies of his I haven't seen whenever I get the chance.

  • @XxvoleistulxX
    @XxvoleistulxX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    "A WAR IN MY NAME!" that line was fire.

    • @RicardoMoralesMassin
      @RicardoMoralesMassin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      He really sounded like a prophet. The entire scene was chilling

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @CaptainFrankay
      @CaptainFrankay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That line was like an unquenchable fire spreading through the universe

    • @lifefindsaway7875
      @lifefindsaway7875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The emotional impact of that scene was much harder in the film than in the books. Amazing acting

    • @GrandeTheftDesperado
      @GrandeTheftDesperado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@lifefindsaway7875 yes it does. But the tent scene in the book is insane for how it breaks down almost to a science what is happening to Paul. It’s references to him computing and interpreting information like a mentat while also having the ability of prescience. You get the full understanding of his relation to the spice. Now of course this had to be reinterpreted for the film. And the film translated it perfectly by having the emotional thread of that moment be the vision of the ensuing jihad.

  • @wrathofkat
    @wrathofkat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    RE: Jamis. I think that Paul's possible futures with Jamis saying, "follow me" in the ways of the desert, Paul had to kill him to a) be accepted and b) to learn the hard lesson about life in the desert. I think Jamis is still Paul's teacher. Just not in the way he originally thinks.

    • @CaiusAntonius
      @CaiusAntonius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Obiwan Kenobi.

    • @calebray4168
      @calebray4168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a dream so that’d make sense. They aren’t often literal.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@calebray4168 Pauls dreams are not like our dreams though. Paul is noticing that his dreams sometimes come true even before the events of the book. So they are sleeping visions. Which is a different thing than a dream as we know it.

    • @calebray4168
      @calebray4168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patreekotime4578 I understand but I meant that just like a regular dream they’re somewhat vague when it comes to the exact details of what’s gonna happen. I mean, I was honestly just comparing it to the universal human experience of dreams/ visions/ premonitions, and the fact that many of them are off in some details but correct in other key details.

    • @ericlipton7640
      @ericlipton7640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly my take as well. Which made it all the more powerful and beautiful

  • @paulmuaddib451
    @paulmuaddib451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Visions of Jamis were the most artistic thing about this adaptation and I will die on this hill.
    Totally unexpected, totally in line with how Paul's untrained vision manifests itself at this stage and, most wonderfully, *the vision was incorrect and correct at the same time* .
    I was a friend of Jamis.

    • @arjunwali9885
      @arjunwali9885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i absolutely agree/love whar you said and enjoyed the decision to make Jamis his first kill,

  • @konstantinosdedes327
    @konstantinosdedes327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I loved how at the beginning when the reverend mothers visited Paul, Jessica was obedient and did not talk back.
    Once Paul passed the test she showed immediate confidence and started talking back to her sisters.

    • @danielskaluba5520
      @danielskaluba5520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm going to be looking for this on the rewatch, nice catch. So much depth to this flick.

    • @LUCASTDScom
      @LUCASTDScom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I love how they played out the work the sisters had done planting the worship of Paul on Arrakis

    • @technopirate304
      @technopirate304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I’ve always felt had Paul failed, Jessica would have done something really rash to the Reverend Mother

    • @NL0Gwenster
      @NL0Gwenster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uhm. He was defiant since the second Jessica left the door (despite her saying you _must_ do everything she tells you to) . His first sentence to the reverent mother is " You dismiss my mother in her own house !? " followed by "How dare you use the voice on me " ... so yeah obedient and talk back before that ? Not really :-)

    • @konstantinosdedes327
      @konstantinosdedes327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NL0Gwenster Read my comment once again :)

  • @captainahab1533
    @captainahab1533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Honestly I felt like Timothee Chalamet was the perfect cast for Paul. He clearly understands what makes Paul Paul and uses that to really become Paul in the movie.

    • @Baronstone
      @Baronstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Plus he fits the physical description to a T

    • @cedriceric9730
      @cedriceric9730 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Baronstone yah he does

    • @michaelbrand2050
      @michaelbrand2050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@solarydays I kind of felt similar. For me, he seemed like he was too young. Like he should be closer to 20 but looked 14 physically.

    • @matt55800
      @matt55800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@michaelbrand2050 Paul is 15 in the book

    • @michaelbrand2050
      @michaelbrand2050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matt55800 I think because the other dune movie and the mini-series had older looking actors it probably colored my view on the character.

  • @hann8103
    @hann8103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    The really beautiful thing about Paul's visions of Jamis is that they're both a possible different future AND a metaphor for their current timeline. Jamis really was a guide to Paul, through his actions and their duel he did show Paul the ways of the desert.

    • @johnpatz8395
      @johnpatz8395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I took this vision, and how it turned out, to mean that the visions would happen, just possibly not in ways that Paul would expect them. As that was the start of his training, and it was also the death of Paul’s childhood, and his accepting that for him to continue on his path, that lives will be lost!

    • @AleZurla
      @AleZurla 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Precisely! As Paul said to the reverend mother, the things he sees become true not exactly the way he's seen them. The same goes with Chani giving him the crysknife.

    • @cherijoseph7819
      @cherijoseph7819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It made you feel the sadness of the potential friendship that will never be.

  • @jacobia7093
    @jacobia7093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Just watched it with a dear old friend yesterday afternoon at an IMAX screening. I saw the 1984 Dune at the cinema back when I was 14 when it first released, and loved it’s style. I’ve only read the first book, once, and that was back in my early twenties, and absolutely loved it, such an excellent story, so my memory of it’s finer details is sketchy. My experience of seeing this new Dune? An absolute masterpiece and absolute 10 out of 10. Incredible! I was 1000% immersed, as was my friend, and can’t remember the last time I felt like I’d ‘lived’ a movie experience like that. It took me back to the similar thrill and awe from first seeing Star Wars in 1977 as a 7 year old, or The Matrix when I was 29. Thank you to Denis Villeneuve and every single individual involved in creating this telling of Frank Herbert’s epic, you gave me magic 🪄😎🙏🤗

  • @WanderlustZero
    @WanderlustZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    28:07 A brave decision to cast Daft Punk as the Guild representatives

    • @ftrejo7
      @ftrejo7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂

    • @adavidf03
      @adavidf03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks. That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while 🤣

    • @poposterous236
      @poposterous236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That spice hits harder, better, faster, stronger, but they take it all night to get lucky

    • @daviddavidson2111
      @daviddavidson2111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dave Batiste looked like a goth too

    • @ParadoxalDream
      @ParadoxalDream 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now if only they could reunion back together and work with Hans Zimmer again for the sequel'(s?) soundtrack, that would be amazing. Tron Legacy is my favorite OST ever, and Dune 2021 might be a close 2nd.

  • @poposterous236
    @poposterous236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    14:52 My dude was so impressed with the performance he portmantua'd the actor and character's name together as "Jason Idaho"

    • @SpikeyGuy
      @SpikeyGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah that was great!

    • @listonrice5230
      @listonrice5230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, came to the comments to upvote this

  • @dianakhan7182
    @dianakhan7182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I loved all the small details - Paul's bed, floating glow globes, training mannequins, the projector Paul used for studies. I wish they mentioned something about Suk conditioning. One little detail I wish was included - Paul cried after killing Jamis and all the other Fremen were impressed that he is 'giving water to the dead' which they consider extreme extravagance as any moisture, including tears can not be wasted.

    • @naurrr
      @naurrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was waiting for that too, would have been a nice touch to include

    • @ibanez9179
      @ibanez9179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think he did cried while walking away from Jamis body...And funeral Will be probably at the beginning of part 2

    • @mattbutcher8331
      @mattbutcher8331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah!,, the crying over the dead was hugely important

    • @sorinandone2310
      @sorinandone2310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that should have been in the ending, along with Paul choosing his freemen name

    • @targard.quantumfrack6854
      @targard.quantumfrack6854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sorinandone2310 Yeah I would have loved to see Jamis placed in the deathstill but I also believe it belongs to the second film. First film: Paul Atreides, second one: Paul "Usul" Muad'dib.

  • @NTA_Luciana
    @NTA_Luciana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    "they can put themselves in a coma to survive stressful situations" god I wish I could do that

    • @fruitygarlic3601
      @fruitygarlic3601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But you can! It's just a question of getting out.

    • @hiteshadari4790
      @hiteshadari4790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fruitygarlic3601 lol

    • @SightForMemories
      @SightForMemories ปีที่แล้ว

      learn to control your breathing down to the minutes of your being. And then recite the litany against fear. then fall back and let the body overtake you.

  • @sidneystubbe535
    @sidneystubbe535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    The scene with the vision of a friendly Jamis was fascinating! It made his death so tragic.

    • @nopatone
      @nopatone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Paul was a friend of Jamis. He taught Paul that when you kill, you pay for it

    • @chriswelter3859
      @chriswelter3859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It was really clever how they showed Paul's visions to be kinda like actual dreams, in which they were a mashup of concepts and feelings and visions, and not just a straight-up look into the future.

    • @spencertherren6806
      @spencertherren6806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was deep, real, and so tragic. He told him, " I'll teach you the ways of the desert."

    • @Shamino1
      @Shamino1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A waste of screen time that could have assisted in humanizing characters that will actually persist in future films or were more important to Paul's upbringing. Instead of a scene discussing mentats, Thufir, Gurney, or demonstrating the Baron beyond a cartoon-villain, we get multiple minutes of a character who croaks almost immediately when introduced in the book.

  • @jakehorsburgh2878
    @jakehorsburgh2878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    The best addition was when in front of the spice crawler Paul says, “I hear your footsteps Old Man”. At first I thought it was just him referencing what he said to Gurney in the training room, but it could also be him talking to the Maker, which is also called the Old Man of the desert.
    Incredible stuff

    • @DRWHITFIELDDD
      @DRWHITFIELDDD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Wow this just blew my mind! That small scene was one of my favorites just due to the cinematography of it. But knowing what you just said, it was such a clever choice by Denis. My love for this movie keeps growing more and more.

    • @Bog_Dog
      @Bog_Dog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wow, amazing spot there!

    • @joshuaphilbert7995
      @joshuaphilbert7995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Great catch!

    • @Olconer
      @Olconer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      in the sand crawler scene paul says " I RECOGNIZE your footsteps old man " and not "i hear your footsteps" which is the same thing he says in the training room and before he says that you can hear a beat of Gurney "old man" approaching if you match that beat with the walk sound before the training room it's the same so i think Paul meant that to Gurney and not the maker because paul calls Gurney old man in the training room when fighting too

    • @joshuaphilbert7995
      @joshuaphilbert7995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Olconer I mean it COULD be either or but to be honest he's in a trance and had forgotten about the looming danger but gurney's footsteps doesn't seem as important or even believable compared to perhaps the maker's footsteps(his first time encountering the worm BTW). You could interpret it either way, one being so obvious, the other more clever and subtle.

  • @lightaces
    @lightaces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    The way they handled Jamis was one of my favorite things about the movie - it really made clear (at least to me) how Paul wasn't seeing the future, he was seeing possible futures. It was a very cleaver way around the internal dialog problem with adapting the book. I also loved the fighting style - it just really seemed to suit the idea of highly evolved genetics and training styles.

    • @johnpatz8395
      @johnpatz8395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I took this vision, and how it turned out, to mean that Paul’s visions will happen, just possibly not in ways that Paul might expect them too. As in effect, his fight with Jamis was the start of his training, and it was also the death of Paul’s childhood, which he saw as happening when he finally found the girl in his visions. Additionally it was Paul accepting that for him to continue on his path, that lives will be lost!

    • @stevekillgore9272
      @stevekillgore9272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Except that they fight at the Cave of Birds, inside and not in their stillsuits - anything else would be a waste and any Fremen knows it.

    • @Caarle1312
      @Caarle1312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnpatz8395 that's exactly how I interpetated it. The visions are not alternate futures, they are different views of a unique future.

    • @lightaces
      @lightaces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@johnpatz8395 I saw it as more like the book - visions are possible futures, and Paul’s actions can shape the future. So, if perhaps he hadn’t disarmed and knocked down Jamis, they would have been friends. Certainly, the book talks a lot about Paul’s visions being a “sea of possibilities,” or language to that effect, so I interpreted the movie to reflect the book.

    • @rodneytidwell5727
      @rodneytidwell5727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did not think Paul was seeing alternate futures but he was seeing two things: glimpses of the future (Chani) and he was also seeing the future in metaphors for what would happen. Paul's response to Gaius Helen Mohiam question: do things you dream happen as you dreamed them? Paul: "Not exactly." Plus, all of those types of dreams/visions were in fact metaphor's for what happened.

  • @Seer43450
    @Seer43450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    An interesting thing I noticed that points to the potential relationship with Jamis if things had been different, and the whole "He will know your ways as if born to them" thing in Paul's vision you see Jamis kneeling next to Paul as he dies in the vision and holding his hand, and when he wins the duel he kneels down and does the exact same thing. It's really understated but it's one of the first times Paul seems to take information from his visions and seamlessly acts on it.

    • @ibanez9179
      @ibanez9179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This is one of my favorite moments in movie.

    • @christopherbaby3842
      @christopherbaby3842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whoa I did not notice that. Ties in with "when you take a life you take your own"

  • @unknown-iy6ss
    @unknown-iy6ss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    That sardaukar chant was by far the most insane sequence of the movie! Can't wait for Part 2.
    P. S: I'm so happy for u Quinn. WB really did a number on ya but couldn't beat your love for the series. Hope u get a cameo in Part 2 as a herald. U are the herald of dune on the internet! ❤‍🔥

    • @erikrungemadsen2081
      @erikrungemadsen2081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      The most insane part is when you realise the assassin spent six weeks in the Palace sewage system, before climbing out to try to kill Paul with the hunter seeker.

    • @長谷川恒男
      @長谷川恒男 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@erikrungemadsen2081 he never climbed out, they killed him while he was still cemented in there, he passed the hunter seeker through the pipes using his visor. That part was so unsettling to me.

    • @stevenflores5988
      @stevenflores5988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I actually yelped in surpise when Salsusa Secundus came up on the screen. Wasn't expecting that in this movie!

    • @bigbaba1111
      @bigbaba1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      indeed. saw it in germany and still remember the sardukar priest? chant.

    • @Joshua0810
      @Joshua0810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bigbaba1111 Ich auch. Das war so eine coole Stelle.

  • @JordanFringe94
    @JordanFringe94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +577

    Your content has helped propel my enjoyment and interest of Dune in general over the years, not just this movie adaptation but the property as a whole. This truly felt like a journey to get to this Part 1 film being a reality and I can't wait to sink in further as we await a part 2. Thanks so much for sharing your passions for this.

    • @Tobacco_Bowls
      @Tobacco_Bowls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      PART 2 GREEN LIT LET’S FUCKING GO!!

    • @lil_pep3309
      @lil_pep3309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      OMG ITS THE ICARLY GUY

    • @SL-gz9gq
      @SL-gz9gq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your

    • @piteusx8440
      @piteusx8440 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This dude has a deep understanding of Dune. It is much more than just a sci-fi book. It's a warning from Herbert that humanity is fragile.

  • @quikah
    @quikah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    Paul did comment "how about a song" when Gurney started the shield training. Nice nod to the baliset

    • @MrGlenbw
      @MrGlenbw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Dang, I'd love to see Josh Brolin play the actual instrument. Denis Villeneuve did film that scene although I'm not sure there'll ever be a Director's Cut.

    • @Swe3tChicken
      @Swe3tChicken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MrGlenbw there's not gonna be a directors cut idk where I read it but he said the movie that is in the cinemas is the directors cut which is actually v nice i feel

    • @joshfloyd7755
      @joshfloyd7755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This was the only place I was disappointed
      Mood is a thing for women and cattle. It was one of my favorite lines from the book, would have been cool to see Brolin say it...

    • @davidslaughter8806
      @davidslaughter8806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was sitting next to his bunk when they woke up him up if you look closely you can spot it in the lower right side

    • @Metal_Jim_in_TX
      @Metal_Jim_in_TX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joshfloyd7755 That wouldn't be politically correct. Might've gotten away with "mood is a thing for children" or something, though.

  • @sherklokholmes-er4mw
    @sherklokholmes-er4mw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    For me me the best line was when Leto asks Jessica "Will you protect Paul ? " And Jessica replys "with my life ." Then with certain eyes Leto says " Not as a mother but with bene gesserit " . Thats the key moments we understand that's things are going to be far more dangerous than we can imagine . It's shows the amount of sacrifice they can make for Paul . It's incredibly potrayed by Oscar and Rebecca.

    • @rickfairfax9631
      @rickfairfax9631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And then Leto says to Jessica “I thought we’d have more time” and the viewer sees that Leto knows that his situation is hopeless. It’s grim, tragic, and masterfully well done.

    • @sherklokholmes-er4mw
      @sherklokholmes-er4mw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rickfairfax9631 Exactly ,not only the visuals but the script was also very strong . Incredible choice of words to portray the emotions as minimally as possible .

    • @adam872
      @adam872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great scene. So many little moments in this movie were so well done.

  • @celan4288
    @celan4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    The changes to Jamis, making him Paul's desert guide, was inspired. I was raving to my BF (who's not a Dune fan but had to listen to me ramble, lol) about that change. It made his death meaningful, like I almost thought Jamis believed in Paul as Lisan al Ghaib at the end and realized that he had just enabled his adoption by the Fremen.

    • @Stryyder1
      @Stryyder1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think he accepted himself as part of the prophecy in the end, it was kind of cool.

    • @jyndev4570
      @jyndev4570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why does Jamis's death have to be meaningful? In the book, the conversation between Stilgar and Jessica make it clear the Jamis is a problem, a detriment to the Fremen and Stilgar only kept him around because he was good in a fight, but ultimately Jamis would hurt the Fremen more than help them.

    • @celan4288
      @celan4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@jyndev4570 Because it's more interesting than "Jamis was an asshole who needed to go."

    • @jyndev4570
      @jyndev4570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@celan4288 If you want interesting, then preserve the entire scene as written which provides context for the fight, Jamis's motivations, the implications of the challenge and outcome.
      The scene as written in the book really fleshes out a lot of Jamis, Stilgar, and Jessica for that matter.
      The film totally rewrites Jamis and almost makes him a tragic heroic figure when in fact he was as you say an a-hole.

    • @tuber7081
      @tuber7081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jyndev4570 I mean, you could always just read the book

  • @kuzu_no_ha
    @kuzu_no_ha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    I need a DUNE extended version, with ALL the behind-the-scenes/making-of featurettes, like what we got for the LOTR trilogy.

    • @funeralgiggle3771
      @funeralgiggle3771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, each movie is like 3 hours, and I don't mind!

    • @Sactown15
      @Sactown15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes I want a fancy extended 4k UHD Blu-Ray set with a ton of behind the scenes features.

    • @greasybumpkin1661
      @greasybumpkin1661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So much this. People will marathon the extended versions just like they do with LOTR. Herbert is on Tolkeins level IMO, merely being inspired by Dune partly resulted in Star Wars and GOT being collosal successes of their respective medium, despite what happened to them in the end.

  • @genmaicha.lapsang
    @genmaicha.lapsang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    I agree with Quinn’s interpretation of Janis’s roll in the visions and with what others are saying. It was a literal possible future and symbolically true. I think that you could read it either way.

    • @Baronstone
      @Baronstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jamis

    • @jimmcleod8764
      @jimmcleod8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was thinking , does Paul learn from the alternative timeline anyway? Is that ( another) reason why he is reluctant to kill him? To Paul it’s not just an unknown challenger it’s a mentor and he is only able to defeat him because of this eldritch knowledge? I love this movie, I hope they continue on with the timeline and open up the prequel stories which although less cerebral are very compelling.

    • @Typanoid
      @Typanoid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      POSSIBLE SPOILERS...?
      .....
      I interpreted the vision as being an indirect truth - Jamis did teach Paul about "the ways of the Desert" (that it is harsh and brutal and that it is a matter of "kill or be killed" with no room for mercy), and as such, was symbolically sort of a "friend" and "guide" to Paul.
      But Quinn's interpretation of an alternate future where Jamis and Paul would have been literally friends, I can certainly get behind as well.

    • @jimmcleod8764
      @jimmcleod8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Typanoid That is what I was thinking on first viewing “ This is his vision came true in rapid fashion , just the dialogue has morphed a bit “ But as the scene continued it seemed there was more in the visions than could be explained by the exchange they actually had. I postulate Paul would have been sent to the death stills in under a minute against Jamis if he couldn’t USE the knowledge of his experience in the alternate timeline to best Jamis in this one, thus making all his visions true, not just in the current timeline, a taste of the power to come?

    • @Anenome5
      @Anenome5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Paul did see Chani kiss him, then stab him, etc., great way to portray seeing jumbles of possible futures that he gets to choose between.

  • @keeganpenney169
    @keeganpenney169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That one scene with the palm trees and the care taker while isnt long at all, is one of my favourite scenes of all time since I saw it. I find it a very peaceful moment while the surroundings are hostile, paul saying 'hello' and just showing his curiosity gives a much more relatable side of the character

  • @andreichira7518
    @andreichira7518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    You know, in fairness, Villeneuve did the show don't tell thing with the Mentats. More specifically, the scene where Leto asks Thufir how much it cost the Emperor to send the emissary to Caladan, his eyes roll back and he quickly calculates the amount. We get bits of that with DeVries as well. That said, I would have liked to see more. I really wish the stains on the lips was incorporated as a detail as well.

    • @emilywilhite5807
      @emilywilhite5807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I agree. Hopefully they’ll delve into the mentats more in the next movie. Especially since in the book Paul was getting mentat training. I wish they’d included that. I missed the ‘juice of saphoo’ speech. This Piter didn’t have much of a role. Didn’t miss the crazy eye brows from the Lynch version though. Lol.

    • @82PeRK
      @82PeRK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The black dot /lines are suppose to represent them drinking the surim

  • @r.babylon2885
    @r.babylon2885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Got a party together to see the film. Nobody had any interest. One person didn't believe it would be a good adaptation, another never heard of Dune. Another wanted to read the book first, but had it as low priority. The last person believed Dune had no fans and that it was an obscure property.
    All of them loved it.

    • @Shaddiewolf
      @Shaddiewolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you for helping them to open their eyes!

    • @TelcoKen
      @TelcoKen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Glad to hear this. I was wondering if non-Dune fans would like the movie.
      It is quite deep, I picked up on things in my second watch, and Quinn's review has me wanting to go again to see a couple of things he pointed out!

    • @gilbertschaffinojr.7030
      @gilbertschaffinojr.7030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, and amen. My opinion, this movie sucked and is boring as hell.

    • @rogeriopenna9014
      @rogeriopenna9014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you have to explain them about mentats, why spice is important, why there are no robots or AIs?
      Because this movie makes no effort to explain the universe.

    • @r.babylon2885
      @r.babylon2885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rogeriopenna9014 Nope, they loved it, and loved how little is explained. It was like they saw something brand new

  • @DinerLingo
    @DinerLingo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    How the Bene Gesserit were depicted has me really excited for the Dune: The Sisterhood HBO show in development. Especially since DV is the exec producer & director of the pilot.

    • @cedriceric9730
      @cedriceric9730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow

    • @DinerLingo
      @DinerLingo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SpyderT22 Not much is known about the plot & the production was pushed back just like the movie. Villeneuve is an exec producer & directing the first episode; one of the film's screenwriters, Jon Spaihts, is writing the series; & the show runner is Diane Adamu-John (Haunting of Bly House). So there's a lot of pedigree behind it. I don't know if it'll be the same as the book, "Sisterhood of Dune," but it will be about the Bene Gesserit.

    • @Shamino1
      @Shamino1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd be wary on getting excited for anything done by Kevin J. Anderson. If Frank Herbert's works are 'The Spice,' Anderson is the brutalist Harkonnen who reaps it for every single penny he can get.

  • @DoddyIshamel
    @DoddyIshamel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The Gom Jabar scene is my favourite. Mohiams subtle loss of composure as Paul masters his pain was excellent.

    • @Shan_Dalamani
      @Shan_Dalamani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There's a Sesame Street mashup of this scene that's hilarious.

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The way you can see the pain building up in Timothee's acting was done perfectly

  • @markfisher7962
    @markfisher7962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Almost a character in it's own right was the liquifying sand. It gave me chills the first time, as Paul starts to sink in. It also goes a long way to explain how the sand worn can move through it. Having a theater sound system really helped.

    • @thursoberwick1948
      @thursoberwick1948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's a frequent problem in earthquake zones. Houses can sink into sand/mud when a quake hits.

    • @funeralgiggle3771
      @funeralgiggle3771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In geography that's known as liquefaction, and it happens mostly during earthquakes. It swallows apartment buildings sometimes.

  • @ZurielWraithblades
    @ZurielWraithblades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    As I described it to my wife, Duncan is like Pauls much older brother, he can confide in him. Gurney is his wise uncle that's never had children himself but see's his brother's children as his own.

    • @queenb2450
      @queenb2450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      See that's what this movie was missing. I wish we SAW it instead of having people to tell us. You could tell Paul loved Duncan, but like why? Where were those small moments we truly saw their relationship as what you beautifuly described?

    • @ZurielWraithblades
      @ZurielWraithblades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@queenb2450 They did try to show it, but focused abit too much on greater story forgetting Dune is also about relationships of the characters.

    • @nicolasgodines1129
      @nicolasgodines1129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ZurielWraithblades It sounds like it would be perfect if they added another hour or even 45 minutes to the movie.

    • @bookerdewitt3854
      @bookerdewitt3854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ZurielWraithblades Greater story my ass... Show don't tell my friend... If the movie failed to show that you have to tell your wife then the movie in it of itself was pointless... I know nothing of this world... 1st act was literally a fuck up. Like the bad guys got this oil planet, yada yada they treat locals as slaves... Then the supposed emperor of this universe told them bad guys house lannister to take a hike... I'm letting house stark manage the oil. And so they did, house stark manages the oil, then it was a conspiracy the the emperor sided with the bad guys so they can kill house stark because house stark was supposed to be next in line or some bullshit... I can't, I just can't there's so much missing on this film... I see the point... but the way they're telling it sucks... I just don't give a shit on anyone honestly... Who the fuck cares?

    • @ZurielWraithblades
      @ZurielWraithblades 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bookerdewitt3854 Or perhaps the movie was deeper than you cared to notice. And my wife pointed out first she though Duncan was another father figure, I disagreed and pointed out differences in the relationship Paul has with his father, Ducan and Gurney.

  • @sertaki
    @sertaki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I think you missed one huge subject to talk about in relation to this movie:
    The absolutely ridiculously amazing soundtrack by Hans Zimmer and the sound design , which perfectly bridges soundtrack and visuals in a way I have rarely seen.
    I think it might have been Hans Zimmer's best work, and it captures the deep drama, the heavy emotions, the grad scale and the alien nature of this futuristic feudal society so incredibly well.
    I was completely blown away by soudtrack and sound design.

    • @tulinfirenze1990
      @tulinfirenze1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      BAHAHAHHAHA You are LITERALLY the ONLY person praising Zimmer's score. EVERY other person in the world is saying how meh it was.

    • @sr7129
      @sr7129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@tulinfirenze1990 Nah bro, shit was fire. Dude had throat singing and bagpipes in the same goddamn score

    • @YourDadYoda
      @YourDadYoda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      One of the best scores in any movie, every time music played it HIT. Cant wait to see what he can do with Part 2.

    • @LoyaltotheNightsky
      @LoyaltotheNightsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tulinfirenze1990 Huh? Reviews and audience are largely praising it.

    • @kondorr
      @kondorr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luvd Zimmers score. Do not ùnderstand the critisizm.

  • @thorspeelermusic
    @thorspeelermusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Kynes’ death is perfect in the book but what they chose to do in the movie was such a good alternative for a cinematic experience. Loved her portrayal as well

    • @dillonpollard9156
      @dillonpollard9156 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The first time I read the book that was my favorite chapter. I re-read it three times before moving on. I agree with you, the way they handled it in the movie definitely fit the medium better than the introspective side we get in the book.

  • @fuferito
    @fuferito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    What was done with Jamis was genius.
    Villeneuve decided to turn a minor character in the book into Paul's vision friend and guide, who Paul needs to sacrifice in order to grow, for good or ill, into his destiny.

    • @tagreene06
      @tagreene06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was clever. Cuz I was like is that jamis in his vision as his guide?! That's a twist

    • @fuferito
      @fuferito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@countpicula,
      “Where is Tom Bombadil? *Where is he?* ”
      -nozaku

    • @ileutur6863
      @ileutur6863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@countpicula Herbert's writing is not perfect, its very much early sci fi with less focus on story and more on political and moral ideas.

    • @ericyoung5184
      @ericyoung5184 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@countpicula oh are you upset about the change? guess what. too bad. Guess when you make your movie or write your book that people will actually pay attention to you can make it how you want. If you expand the characters part doesn't take away from the source material or the representation of it. To diminish the characters part you could argue might but not expanding it. If you're that much of a fanboy that you need to treat the writing is dogma and divinely-inspired that's fine but again too bad

  • @Kitzishot
    @Kitzishot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Some of the visions are symbolic. The vision of him dying to Jamis wasn't a vision of him physically dying. It is a vision that once he kills Jamis the old Paul dies and then Chani walks up, grabs his hand, and lifts Paul up reborn as a Fremen and soon to become the Kwisatz Haderach. In her hand is the bloody blade, that she is the final piece that ends the old Paul's life. It's very symbolic and Paul understands these visions. He knows that once he kills Jamis that there is no path in which he can now escape his fate of becoming the Kwisatz Haderach and the leader of the Fremen. Like in the later books will show: He began to lock in the path of his future. Knowing the future isn't a gift; it is a curse.

    • @robertshawn77
      @robertshawn77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bravo man, bravo! That is the exact thing I took from it.

    • @johnsterling6948
      @johnsterling6948 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The incomplete story from his vision earlier suggested that he was to die by her hand. The blood on her crysknife and hand were not Paul’s, but Jamis’. Great Texas Switch, there.

  • @1969plato
    @1969plato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    One thing that people who haven't read past Dune in the series usually do not understand: Paul is NOT a "hero." Even Paul realizes this in the next two books.

    • @HerreraAlonso
      @HerreraAlonso 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will come as a pleasant surprise to people who hadnt read the book as me

  • @trevormalcolm4328
    @trevormalcolm4328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    One of the winning elements of this film (for me) was the casting. As someone who read the book, I could easily imagine all the principle actors in there given roles.

  • @phlippbergamot5723
    @phlippbergamot5723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I liked the scene where the Sardukar stab Liet Kynes, and you see water burst out of her chest because they hit a pocket of water in the still suit. Small detail that I appreciated.

  • @Xalashaska
    @Xalashaska 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    the scene with Jamis really implies the idea that Paul knows exactly what kind of friends they could have been. it’s so good! glad i wasn’t the only one to think it was more impactful.

    • @Baronstone
      @Baronstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is not in the books at all. Which means he made it up for no reason. It did not add to the story at all. It just wasted time that would have been better used actually getting to the heart of the story!

    • @HammyHamilton451
      @HammyHamilton451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I thought that his visions of Jamis telling him “I will be your friend” and “I will show you the way of the desert” were foreshadowing their fight. By being forced to kill another man, Paul is taught the brutal reality of life in the desert. The “I will be your friend” line comes from the book where during Jamis’ funeral Paul gives water to the dead and states, “I was a friend of Jamis.”

    • @targard.quantumfrack6854
      @targard.quantumfrack6854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Baronstone "I was a friend of Jamis" You really have to be dense to not understand what happened.

    • @targard.quantumfrack6854
      @targard.quantumfrack6854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HammyHamilton451 That and the "elder bene gesserit" tells Paul to listen to a friend which is Jamis advising him to let go in the sandstorm.

    • @Vandelberger
      @Vandelberger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Baronstone You can’t say that in such an absolute. As Quinn mentioned, Paul seemed to have seen another reality where they were friends, maybe a stand in for Duncan who he just lost. I think it’s a good touching use of Paul seeing alternate realities making him battle insanity later. I agree they left too much out.

  • @jamiecripps8789
    @jamiecripps8789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    This channel is solely responsible for me getting into Dune and I've been so excited to finally see you watch it ❤

  • @ctriamimgons
    @ctriamimgons 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Epic is the one word that best defines Part I of DUNE.
    You spoke of the casting: IMO, the four best castings (no particular order):
    1. Paul
    2. Leto
    3. Baron H
    4. Reverend Mother

  • @ryanw7196
    @ryanw7196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    There is one scene that literally gave me chills. When paul begins hallucinating rescuing the spice harvester and mouths the words "I hear your footsteps, old man," just as the worm approaches to swallow it whole and Gurney comes up from behind, the double meaning there was genius and hit me in my gut. That and Javier Bardem simply is Stilgar, he was Stilgar from the day he was born and will always be Stilgar.

    • @Tartersauce101
      @Tartersauce101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *Recognize your footsteps
      And lol i thought because he was tripping he was saying it to the approaching worm, but ofc it was Gurney and a call back to the training scene.

    • @ryanw7196
      @ryanw7196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Tartersauce101 Would have to ask the director if there was a double meaning there in reference to the old man of the desert but til its said otherwise I will assume it was lol.

    • @davidd9727
      @davidd9727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Tartersauce101 he is saying it cus of the worm as well, another translation of shai hulud or whatever is 'old man of the desert'

    • @icepicmusic4324
      @icepicmusic4324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the reason this part is so important in the movie is that this is the first queue the movie gives you that Paul’s prophetic abilities have been awakened. this is Paul’s first time coming into contact with spice, and when he is kneeling in front of the harvester you absolutely have no clue Gurney is coming (no footsteps, no dialogue from gurney) - Paul still knows he is coming

  • @gozerthegozarian9500
    @gozerthegozarian9500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I really liked the fact that the film referenced Leto's father and his death by bullfighting, it was such a nice bit of foreshadowing of Leto's own fate...

    • @venicebeachsportsnetwork6677
      @venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the book Leto comes off a little foolish and not as loving to Paul but in the movie they set up he knew what he was doing and loved Paul

    • @cherijoseph7819
      @cherijoseph7819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It seemed like a nod to Brian Herbert's House Atradies book that devotes a great deal of narrative to Leto the first and his deadly hobby.

  • @Valleyraven007
    @Valleyraven007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I thought the visions of Jamis as a future mentor was a cool touch, it was a really neat way to have Paul learn the ways of the desert, and how he just "seems" to know. He was actually being taught by an alternate future Jamis who was his friend. It also makes Jamis' death more impactful and when the funeral happens Paul calling him his friend will hit harder too I think. I thought it was one of the minor tweaks that worked out really well

  • @diegogamba7825
    @diegogamba7825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I consider myself a hardcore Dune fan. Just watched the film yestareday in theaters, can't stop thinking about it!
    It completely shattered expetcations IMO, great review I enjoyed it very much :)

    • @darkhighwayman1757
      @darkhighwayman1757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      really? I could barely stomach it.

    • @anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470
      @anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a big Dune fan now I went into the movie not knowing anything about it but I am a 40K fan and that being said It felt very familiar I was like this could easily be changed to a 40K movie this proves a 40K movie as possible

  • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
    @AnonEMus-cp2mn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Duncan Idaho finally getting a scene sacrificing himself to protect the last of the Atradies family was the epitome of his character. I am glad it was depicted so visceraly with rage in his final moments.

    • @30adka
      @30adka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He is in the end the main character of all Dune saga.

    • @JohnSmith-tx1mz
      @JohnSmith-tx1mz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      To bad he has to go through hell over like 5000+ years and get cloned a million times.

    • @dmoore2725
      @dmoore2725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As far as screen sacrifice scenes go I felt it was a bit of a weak one really. Didn't really resonate with me as much as I'd have liked for Duncan

    • @Walht
      @Walht 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought that whole section was weak and rushed

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dmoore2725 Some of the pacing was off, I felt the abrupt cuts back and forth took the viewer out of the action, but it could have been worse.

  • @vtmarik
    @vtmarik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I loved how the Harkonnen harvesters are obviously ticks.
    AND
    When Paul says "I know your footsteps Old Man" at the harvester, how you don't really know if he's talking to Gurney or to the worm... oh my god chills

    • @uglynerfherder
      @uglynerfherder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've only read up to book 3... Am I missing something?

    • @ileutur6863
      @ileutur6863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, the callback to the first scene with Gurney was amazing

    • @kylemillard7294
      @kylemillard7294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@uglynerfherder when he says “I know your footsteps old man,”
      it can be him referencing gurney (first scene) or the worm that’s coming. Shai Hulud means “old man of the desert”

  • @nydabeats
    @nydabeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    Paul: My path leads to the desert.
    Morpheus: He's starting to believe.

    • @Raygo.
      @Raygo. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good. And so... old wine in a new bottle.

    • @A7XKoRnRocks1
      @A7XKoRnRocks1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Funny how both franchises belong to WB.

    • @T1tusCr0w
      @T1tusCr0w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These moments are what we hope to live for in films where they are set up and pay off.

    • @cedriceric9730
      @cedriceric9730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wasn't that dumbledore from LOTR?

    • @T1tusCr0w
      @T1tusCr0w 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cedriceric9730 that’s dark!🤣🙌🏻

  • @mattromero9797
    @mattromero9797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My opinion for a great cast for the Padisha emperor Shaddam IV is definitely Mads Mikkelson. His cinematic presence can be very regal and also foreign with his vocal intonations. He has very high end swagger I hope they consider him for the casting.

  • @kyledavy4546
    @kyledavy4546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I read Dune 20 years ago (Jesus) and I have been waiting for this ever since. I've watched both Lynch's Dune and the SyFy series to death. This is like when Lord of the Rings came out and people got to see a beloved and complex literary work come to life in front of their eyes. It's magical

    • @Marcelo83uk
      @Marcelo83uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well put.. couldn't agree more! Still pinching myself of what I watched last night I was blown away... not had a film do that in a long time after the abomination of the star wars franchise... this made me fall back in love with sci-fi again

    • @mjengel84
      @mjengel84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not just fall in love with sci-fi movies again but fall in love with movies again!

    • @vincentkrommenhoek7431
      @vincentkrommenhoek7431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I saw the 1984 version and felt it to be rushed and poorly executed. I cried in the cinema a couple of times when I saw Denis Villeneuve's take on the story and he completely nailed it. Btw I never read the book. I'm sorry...

  • @GKFF9872
    @GKFF9872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I watched this with friends who’d never read the books or watched the movie or miniseries and they’ve been nonstop gushing about it. We’ve all made plans to watch it again with a bigger group of people this time.

    • @hal7741
      @hal7741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I watched it in IMAX with no knowledge of the books. Let me just say, this was the best movie I’ve seen in years. Actually blew my mind

    • @dess234
      @dess234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      its so good

    • @subsonicdeathmonkey
      @subsonicdeathmonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is what I wanted to hear. I couldn’t begin to know what it would be like to watch this with no knowledge of the books or even the David Finch movie.

    • @sudevsen
      @sudevsen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watched 8t with 3 people who immediately bought the book and binging Quinns ideas

    • @dess234
      @dess234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sudevsen yeah I’m about to start reading the book

  • @TheBayzent
    @TheBayzent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I loved that they portray Leto's dad dressed as a Toreador and the bull figurine (grandpa Atreides got killed while bullfighting). There were a lot of small details that I loved.

    • @MrJJSimonds
      @MrJJSimonds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ..and if you know the story of book two/three and Paul's son Leto, then the bull reference has even deeper meaning... ;)

    • @baddogmtv
      @baddogmtv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrJJSimonds it also hints to people new to Dune that this universe is our universe, the descendants of our Earth without being too heavy handed.

    • @autodidactpolymath1851
      @autodidactpolymath1851 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Using the bull as recurring visual theme was a great aesthetic choice.

  • @eriktempelman2097
    @eriktempelman2097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The movie IMHO improved on the book in a few points. Leto and Paul's conversation on Caladan, at the graveyard, was a strong addition. Chani's role just before Paul's fight with Jamis is also better. And of course the awakening of the Kwizath Haderach, first by the gom jabbar test, then by the spice in the field, was so well done!

  • @matthewlaflamme9019
    @matthewlaflamme9019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    A detail I'm surprised wasn't included was Paul shedding a tear over Jamis. It's these little details that builds him up in the eyes of the fremen

    • @bry8636
      @bry8636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Agreed- I thought that was coming as they dwelled on Paul for awhile after Jamis
      ‘He gives water to the dead’
      it made him compassionate in the eyes of the Fremen and fed into the Lisan al Gaib- that needs to happen- the Fremen, while superstitious, are cautious and very guarded about outsiders- so they need to show how Paul brings them around-or it will feel too forced- even with the missionaria protectiva

    • @Tartersauce101
      @Tartersauce101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes one of few legitimate complaints i had.
      So much important nuance they kept, seemed odd to not have kept that.
      I thought a bit about it, and my best guess is that the complex interplay, the clash of cultures that results in what is actually a misunderstanding (Paul is crying because he hasn't killed, and because culturally he is soft compared to a Fremen his age, whereas the Fremen interpret it as a grand gesture of respect towards his fallen opponent) just couldn't be clearly conveyed through this medium.

    • @cybrpunk
      @cybrpunk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought that was conveyed by the fact that he wanted to spare his life and by the way he held him as he died.

    • @bry8636
      @bry8636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tartersauce101 I agree that the Fremen misconstrued Paul’s tears
      But I was 11 when I saw the same scene in Lynch’s Dune- and even then I understood that bit of nuance- that it was the Fremen misunderstanding the act
      I got the impression that Fremen had never even seen tears before so they could assign any context and meaning to tears that they wanted as there was no precedent
      But it’s also important in that it shows you the power of the missionaria proctectiva- the Fremen are willing to believe that anything Paul does is some sort of sign
      Which shows you how influential he sisterhood can be
      So there is a lot going on in that one little scene
      Not to say that people couldn’t misunderstand it- but this is a place where I think the director has to trust the audience

    • @AbcDef-ww2gy
      @AbcDef-ww2gy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This film doesn't want the Fremen to see Paul as the Mahdi yet. (They will do that in Part 2.) The last word on the matter went to Chani, who said she didn't believe he was the Mahdi.

  • @crazyfool408
    @crazyfool408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Jason momoa was saying this film was like 4 to 5 hours to being cut down let’s hope for a extended edition disc!!

    • @tahunuva4254
      @tahunuva4254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I loved it, but felt there was something missing in the characterisation - I'm guessing an extended edition would fix that, give them more time to breathe.

    • @pahtosh
      @pahtosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah that’s great news !

    • @mjengel84
      @mjengel84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That just means part 2 is already done and in the can!
      Some assembly required.

    • @grilljones
      @grilljones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just FYI, this channel debunks that. JM said the story could have been that long, not that they filmed that much

    • @hypocriticalsatire3966
      @hypocriticalsatire3966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of that was scenery shots, and Villineuve will not budge regarding his negative opinion on extended movies.

  • @Nanotopia
    @Nanotopia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    The lesson learned from “the friend” Kill the boy-child for the man to rise.. So heavy for Paul. The look Jessica gave Paul (or Chani?) when they all turned to head into the desert. 👀 chills. The depth & layers, characters that weren't on screen for long but left a massive impact - looking forward to seeing it for a 3rd time 🖐🏽 🪱

    • @silkyjohns0n
      @silkyjohns0n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Have you read the books? Because I left feeling great, but also pondering if anyone who had not read the books would feel about characters like the Duke and Dunkan...? They didn't get a massive amount of development in the movie and I was more moved by already knowing them from the book.

    • @ryan.1990
      @ryan.1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In the book Jessica thinks after the fight with Jamis "this is the first man Paul has killed."

    • @VictorHood84
      @VictorHood84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi I have not read the book and I was wondering what the last shot of Jessica ment. Why is so looking so angry and concerned?

    • @mrgaudy1954
      @mrgaudy1954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kill the boy and let the man be born - Aemon Targaryen

    • @vincentkrommenhoek7431
      @vincentkrommenhoek7431 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. The chosen one must awake. This was part of the process.

  • @davidolden971
    @davidolden971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hey, Quinn! I was just doing research on the name ‘Liet’ and I found this interesting tidbit:
    “Liet is a name of Anglo-Saxon origin and came from the baptismal name Lettice, **a popular girls name in medieval times**. This personal name was originally derived from the Latin laetitia, which means gladness and joy.”
    So casting Kynes as a women is *not* as off-base a some might think (Yes, they exist). For me: the gender of Kynes is a non-issue; Kynes is a planetary ecologist, and can be played by a Max, or a Sharon, but now that I’ve learned the original gender of the name Liet, I’m leaning in favour of Villeneuve’s casting.

  • @GrayArea
    @GrayArea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1221

    Moooon of my life!!! I’m so glad u recommended these books to me years ago! I was blown away by this movie, immersed like no other movie before it!!!! In Quinn I trust💪💪

    • @Black_pearl_adrift
      @Black_pearl_adrift 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I literally love Quinn so much for his Dune series, I never would have started it without him.

    • @sharneparata2399
      @sharneparata2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Can't wait to hear Gray's review. Sweet Summer Children!!

    • @roberthhom
      @roberthhom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey you we know you girl

    • @tdzucker
      @tdzucker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Read this in Roy Dotrice’s voice!!!

    • @Baronstone
      @Baronstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Then you are easily entertained as the movie was just good. It wasn't great, it wasn't a masterpiece, it was just good.
      So much they cut out that should have stayed in. So much they cut for no reason at all as there were just a couple of words left off of like 7 lines. Why did they do that? It saved, a total of like 15 seconds. They cut out all of the narrations from the writings of Princess Irulan, which sucks because she explains a good deal in her writings. In short, this was 2 and half hour prologue and nothing more. Plus they didn't plan for there to be any other movies to finish the story, so it just sort of ends for no reason and it will take a minimum of 3-4 years before they can finish another movie to finish telling he story!

  • @postvizsla7509
    @postvizsla7509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I interpreted Paul’s vision of Jamis as Jamis teaching Paul the ways of the desert by having Paul kill his first man.

    • @explicitw8657
      @explicitw8657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey buddy! I was a friend of Jamis…
      he taught me if somebody mentions some thing you must meme the hell out of it. 😉

    • @jenspilgrim
      @jenspilgrim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had that exact thought too.
      But I deeply missed Jessicas accusing "Murderer" to Paul after the killing. I think Lynch filmed that specific scene better.

    • @flosunshine123
      @flosunshine123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At first I though that was Liet Kynes father, the lines felt like the vision he had before his death on top of the pre spice mass

    • @neoism
      @neoism 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i hope that actor is in part 2 and paul continues to be "Friends" with him true dreams and stuff... i was a little bumbed out the way it happened... :/
      also his chani dream where she stabs him...im not a reader soo its weird its like some of his dreams visions are the opposite of what happens in irl

    • @mtozzi92
      @mtozzi92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think if he didn't go after jamis during his escape and picked a different path jamis may not have challenged them. Chani does say he went up the most difficult route.

  • @blitz8425
    @blitz8425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    I really hope Denis changes his stance on a directors cut. I think this movie is dying for it.
    We know there are scenes that were shot that did not make the cut (the dinner scene being one of the more notable ones) that could be added to and extended addition that in my opinion would not detract from the over all flow imo.
    It reminds of me of the LOTR films. The theatrical releases are sufficient, solid, faithful adaptations. BUT the extended edition is the masterpiece, and that's what I think Dune deserves.

    • @UncleDeadly1031
      @UncleDeadly1031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sometimes less is more in film, though, pacing being key, despite the hunger for more we have.

    • @Kuribohcoast
      @Kuribohcoast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      If he never ever changes his stance on a longer cut, that's fine. This movie is wonderful in all aspects. I want a longer cut not because I thought there was any part missing...
      ...i just want to see more.

    • @gifdar
      @gifdar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Would kill for that dinner scene, all of these actors are so good at making things feel tense with just facial expressions

    • @TelcoKen
      @TelcoKen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. But if so, I'd expect it to be quality. Recall that for the extended LoTR, they fully processed the additional scenes, including sound and musical score.
      I've seen so called "extended" releases where they added alternative endings and deleted scenes but didn't bother to polish them, and it was horrible!

    • @TelcoKen
      @TelcoKen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UncleDeadly1031 good point. Thought this on the navigators, and the space travel (curving space?), and by *not* showing much, it won't disappoint your own interpretation/ imagination.

  • @ToyMachine22122
    @ToyMachine22122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dune has given me a reason to pay for a movie theater ticket again.
    It made me realize how much faith I had lost in Hollywood as competent artists.
    Dune is more than just a really good movie. For me it represents hope for the future of the silver screen.