50 years? They will still be making this stuff as remakes in 100 years from now. Yesterday's cult books are tomorrow's timeless classics. They are still doing remakes of Dickens, Zola, Verne, Welles, Stoker etc. If people are still reading books 50 years after they were written, they are here to stay.
If you look to the next half-century and look forward to being pacified and placated by mass-produced popular entertainment, you really haven't learned anything from all this science-fiction that you've consumed (as opposed to studied, learned from, reflected upon)
To be fair, Jodorowsky was the first man to attemp to bring Dune to the big screen. But it was quite a... unique take on Dune. He even made the blueprint of the movie along Moebius.
Quinn, always be you. Never change, we are all so grateful and thankful for your passion and for you sharing all this with us. It just rubs off on anyone who watches your videos. Even in face of all the hate (negativity), just remember that we...your community deeply care for you. Stay awesome.
So happy for Jodorowsky being "re-discovered" all this decades later. Multifaceted like very few people. He is, also, a great person and very down to earth. He answers through his twitter all the time. I hope one day we have a superproduction movie about his life
Moebius is great artist , got some of his rare books. He did have a really weird diet though. Not sure if it helped him 🤷♂️ Moebius also influenced Bladerunner and Neuromancer with a comic short story he did that Ridley Scott and Gibson read
@@Henbot "The Long Tomorrow" is basically the most influential (on movies) comic story ever - it defined dystopian sci-fi movies and how cityscapes would look. But remember, the Long Tomorrow was written by Dan O Bannon (with inspiration from Philip K Dick) before he made Alien. Moebius just did the art.
I just hope there will be several movies to cover the whole story. Maybe 3-4 movies is perfect. The first two volumes of the comic is like the most epic action story. So much is happening that it can barely be put into a single movie.
I would have loved to see the Metabarons saga first because it's more Dune inspired but I get why they took this route. It's his best known work but it suits the director since it has trippy, comedic and dark stuff. I hope Jodorowski is heavily involved. And I hope there can be a series just like there'll be one on Dune - The Sisterhood - that will center on the Bene Gesserit, on the Technopriests graphic novels.
Bro, Dune's success has told all these production companies that people are ready for the next level of hard sci-fi after Star Wars and Star Trek have fallen off in quality. Were about to get some cinematic bangers!
Unfortunately people are pretty bad at writing screenplays these days, unless they base it off a book that was written beforehand. That's part of why Dune, the movie, is so great. So much good original source material.
This is gonna be such an interesting mix of artistry. After this experience of finally getting into Dune and finding your channel, I know this is would be another great read. (Swoons)
That Jordorowsky has given his blessing and will be involved at some level gives to the film what no other rip off or dilution of the Incal body of works has had before, the real pedigree and the voice of the creator. Can't wait. Never thought it would happen and so psyched to see the finished product. The Holy Mountain changed the way I viewed film, hopefully this will leave a similar mark on the sci-fi genre.
If that is true i REALLY hope they will stay true to the book. I know Judorowsky had no intentions of doing that with the Dune movie when he was adapting it, so if fair is fair he should be given the same "curtsy", when it comes to his creations. But The Incal have been an inspiration for several movies, so i think it deserves to be faithfully adapted.
@@Erikjust just a quick FYI "courtesy" is showing respect for others, "curtsy" is a kind of bow usually done by women. "Curtsy" comes from the word "courtesy" and is done as a display of courtesy, but they arent interchangible.
@@Aurora2097 El Topo and The Holy Mountain are “different” movies. They are great cinematically, and their scripts are unique, but they are also ugly, grotesque, and offensive. I see them as the product of a sick mind.
@@nydaloth but they are INTENTIONALLY ugly, grotesque and offensive. IMO the Transformers movies are far more evidence of a disturbingly sick mind than that.
Stylistically and atmospherically, Waikiki sounds like a solid match for The Incal movie. What I've seen of his movies, his sense of humour lines up with the humour in the books as well, so as he is a solid director, I'm intrigued by this.
@@toribiogubert7729 Taika Waititi had a lot ot do with the visual look of Ragnarok as he has a background in the visual arts both in his education and his father was an professional artist. Several of the space ships in the chase scenes were designed by him.
It's refreshing to hear news of Jodorowsky on his own terms, in relation to his own ideas - there's much more to him than just what he thinks about Frank Herbert - I wonder if anyone will be asking Jodorowsky to direct any of this if it turns into a series I'm not the biggest fan of his filmmaking, but considering how much ongoing interest there's been in his conception of Dune, it's a pity this hasn't translated into more opportunities for him to actually direct I think his most well known films are El Topo and Holy Mountain, which are certainly emblematic of their time and caught some kind of zeitgeist - they're definitely worth a look, and I wish there were more discussion of them - the best account I've seen is in Midnight Movies, from J Hoberman and Jonathan Rosenbaum - that's an amazing book - probably the best I've seen on cult movies
@@Henbot He was talking about a fictional assault scene in El Topo. He was describing how intense that scene was for him and the actress. He speaks in an intense and passionate way and even said he r'd Frank Herbert. He is a product of the 70s where saying shit like that was not a big deal and English is not his first language. He regrets saying that since now he understands that people are taking him literally and not understanding the context with which he said that. The actress has never come out to say that she was assaulted, so all this is based on Jodo and how he used to say shit just to be provocative. He doesn't act like an edge lord anymore and talks about love and healing now.
@@Tracydot3 the actress completely disappeared and never did another film again and we already know rape victims don’t always come out until someone dies or lot of work
He is extremely talented..a master even, but no thanks to his vision of Dune (Denis has got this). The Incal is what he should have gone for and now it's coming to life.
I'm so happy for you my man, you made a Channel based around what you love and now that Studios, Production Teams and Streaming Servives are looking for more things to adapt, your content is prefect for excited new lore enthusiasts and the like!
@@zmani4379 That's the big question when you adapt the book (or a graphic novel) isn't it. I'd say, drop less relevant parts of the story and adapt the rest. Condensing it would make scenes last 5 seconds me thinks. Also, I think, holywood kinda forgot about the format of mini-series, and that is a shame.
Have you seen Thor Ragnarok? Apart from the heavy comedy (which influenced other Marvel movies) the visual style is bold and unique and tinged with the kind of 80s gel light colors that Panos is known for. Of mainstream film directors with direct experience doing science fiction, Waikiki is probably the only one who could even attempt something like this without turning it into a "gritty realism" trope.
Yes. Srsly, Steelhead is so cool as a character that I even accepted his love triangle (Steelhead loved, bit didn't understand it. Zoran understood love, but didn't love. Vicenta yanked her eyes out during the happier period) But I have a question: how did the caste bird preserve, if grandfather got rid of all his biological components and then got thrown out the window? People who didn't read are probably like "yooooo wtf" 😅
I haven't read all of the INCAL, but what I have read definitely seems like Taika is the best director out there for it. He made the over the top weirdness of THOR: RAGNAROCK really enjoyable and easy to follow. And with Jojo Rabbit he moved through comedy and tragedy with aplomb.
I can't believe this is finally being done.....I've had a Möbius signed orginal for about 25 years.....this is awesome...I have to audition to be Kill Wolfhead
As someone who's never read the original visual novel, I'm very much excited to watch this movie. Taika is talented and I think he'll do a very good job.
Man... This makes me really wish for "The Five Star Stories" full anime adaptation or maybe even big budget adaptation. At least I am happy now TLOGH new season about to be release in 2022. I really recommend Quinn to also look into Japanese space sci-fi works.
There are very few - a handful of capable Directors whom I can class together with Denis Villeneuve, and Taika Waititi (who will be directing The Incal) is one of them. What a great time to be Alive. Please just let the creepy Facebook ("Meta") version of the Metaverse fail is all I ask for.
@@GaneshPalraj1991 It's like being on an Olympic winners pedestal, with Gold, Silver, and Bronze. All of them are winners but Denis has the Gold medal.
I love the incal saga, I have all the albums. Another fantastic sci-fly character is Yoko Tsuno from Roger Leloup, the album “The 3 suns of Vinea” is absolutely perfect, it is a box office success script awaiting to be discovered. The aesthetics of the spacecrafts are stunning and scientifically accurate.
Correction: moebius was alive when before and after Incal were released. He refused to work on “before” cuz of some work. He did work on “after” but after a few pages the writer went with another artist because of disagreements. Moebius died years after all three books were done.
Exactly. I like Moebius a lot more than I like Jodo, so I remember deciding not to buy them while Moebius was still alive. Did end up getting them as part of the Humanoids Humble Bundle package earlier this year- but haven't read them (I speak French and avoid translations wherever possible).
Moebius or Jean Giraud as his real name was died only 9 years ago in 2012. And he did work as production designer on The Fifth Element so I don't get people who still keep saying "The Fifth Element ripped off Moebius"
@@Ozymandias1 Also exactly. Sure, Besson "borrowed" heavily from Jodorowsky's concept and has been open about it - Korben Dallas is basically John Difool but with special forces training. Moebius was completely on board with it. He certainly designed Diva Plavalaguna, the police, the Mondoshawans (whose spaceship is basically Major Grubert's hat) and I would imagine the sarcophagus and the temple - which are quintessentialy Moebius. There was probably more but the ones I listed are the ones I have seen his concept art for.
Ivan (John) the Fool is one of the main protagonists in Russian folklore and he usually comes out to be the wisest in the story. On another note, this reminded me that I have read the Metabarons many years ago, need to go back and check whether I read it all,
As much as I love The Incal, I think a better play would have been to make The Saga of Metabarons series to get people hyped for the universe and then spring The Incal. But I guess, sure, we can start with the best (and weirdest) part of that setting and then later move on to the slightly more pedestrian.
Considering how he did Thor: Ragnarok, I'm actually kind of not so surprised Taika Waititi has been connected to putting a Moebius comic book to the big screen. He might be a pretty good fit.
The Incal is one of my favorites. I think it is in good hands because the world is so comical and bizarre. But very difficult to adapt - even more than Dune. Cautiously excited!
Excited! I loved dune, am really liking foundation looking forward to Hyperion. But if you haven’t already I am formally requesting a book shelf tour, from what I see in this video it’s definitely goals. As for The Incal I have this feeling it would end up something like Valerian where I’ll end up really liking it and everyone else hates it.
You threw me off with these "there's 3 books"... the core Incal series had 6: roughly translated Black Incal, Light Incal, What's Below, What's Up top, The 5th Essence part 1 and 2. The first ones were also published in Métal Hurlant in shorter periodical. Then there's sequels and spin off and prequels series, 3 Incal ones, the Meta-Barons, and 2 others. Later there was multiple new editions too. But of course you're referencing the English translation and US publication. If they makes movies, don't assume they will go with the whole US books though. The core story was designed for 6 books, they may use that to guide multiple movies, maybe with a trilogy of double books or something.
I saw Jodorowsky announce this on his IG. I have not read the Incal yet and will soon. I'm a big Jodo fan and am excited that this is being made into a movie. Very curious about the budget as well.
You sure it influenced star wars? I'm way older then you and read the first part of the Incal in the adult comic book "heavy metal" in 1982. Which was after episode 4
@@thedragondemands5186 It was a box office flop. To be fair, I think it was largely due to the uncharismatic leads they had cast for the film, but contributing to that was also the obscurity and accompanying weirdness of the material, which is still a stumbling block for mainstream audiences. And The Incal is so, so obscure for people not into bande dessinée.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz A 47% critic score and 53% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes begs to differ. That and my own film-viewing sensibilities. How much money a movie makes absolutely matters because (a) that's really the only quantifiable measure available for assessing whether or not a film has mass appeal, and (b) making back the money from production costs (and hopefully a tidy profit) is the prime motivator for studios to carry out future projects in the same vein, including the possibility of sequels. If movies of a certain genre or type do badly in the box office, then studios will be less inclined to gamble on making more of those types of movies.
That graphic novel collection makes me drool🤤 Moebius is my absolute favorite artist and the incal is really wonderfully trippy and creative. Im excited but nervous about the adaptation.
My appreciation of Alejandro J goes back to the release of his first movie -- El Topo -- in 1970... It remains one of my top 10 movies ever made! Have NOT read any of his graphic novels, but you've got me interested. Thanx
Ooh, ho ho ho, I see Metabarons on your bookshelf, now this is the one I would be looking forward to a movie adaptation. Although I don't see it ever happening.
Off topic, but I just watched an amazing preview of the Chinese version of The Three Body Problem, and it looks amazing! Right out of the book kind of amazing! I can’t wait!
DiFool isn’t just archetypal, but specifically an interpretation of the tarot’s The Fool Trump card, the first of the 22 Major Arcana, who is portrayed in the tarot as mid-fall off a cliff (how the book begins and ends) and is usually accompanied by an animal or pet, usually a dog nipping at his heel (Deepo)... the book goes through the other 21 Major Arcana as the story progresses, and is all about magick initiation and gnosis... anyone who’s seen Holy Mountain will clearly see that Jodorowsky is influenced and inspired by western occult systems like Thelema and Golden Dawn. Think about this stuff next time you read through it... Here’s a description of The Fool tarot card: “The Fool represents new beginnings, having faith in the future, being inexperienced, not knowing what to expect, having beginner's luck, improvisation and believing in the universe.” Fits like a glove, don’t it? ;)
yeah man they should 150% animate this and go the heavy metal vibe :) or go that 'live action' avatar type thing and go full fx where possible to give it that oh hell yeah status . . . lots of cool stuff on the horizon i hope they do it all justice like they deserve :)
Completely agree. CGI has made studios want to make live adaptations of everything, when traditional hand-drawn animation would be a much better fit for many of the stories.
I was not expecting this but it seems like the perfect fit to me. Really looking forward to how it progresses. This news and Dune has made me remember when I first got obsessed with Jodo Dune how I wanted Tarsem Singh to direct a revival. Might be too late but if they ever did Metabarons maybe
Jodorowsky is a weird dude and incredibly self-absorbed. Both El Topo and The Holy Mountain are beautiful looking art pieces, but they’re not film entertainment, they belong in an art museum not a movie theatre. That’s just my opinion of course. With that said, Moebius artwork is magnificent, so that alone is a good reason to pick up the graphic novel.
My thoughts exactly. He makes very avant-garde art films that most regular people would hate. There's nothing wrong with that, but people who have only ever watched his Dune documentary really should try watching some of his work before getting caught up in the hype. I've not got around to reading the Incal, but I'm suspecting whatever we get is going to be very, very different from what Jodorowsky would have produced himself.
have you heard the term 'cult movie', or 'midnight movie'? Jodorowsky's films typified that idea - that is, they were some of the first films to be called cult films. They were a staple of the cinema in their time - playing late at night for an adult crowd. Saying they don't belong in a cinema and only in an art museum puts you excessively towards the pop-entertainment/Marvel movie end of the spectrum (which I don't say snobbishly, being polarised in either way limits your vision) and really illustrates how dumbed-down and desensitised to any originality the avaerage consumer of entertainment has become in this age of corporate homogenisation . When you say they're 'not film entertainment' - all that point essentially is is they're too different from Marvel etc. too different from what you've been conditioned to see as entertaining. And restricting your praise to how they 'look' (thanks to recently-deceased cinematographer Rafael Corkidi far more than Jodorosky himself) says you got nothing out of them in terms of their themes/symbolism (of which there's a lot)
Taika Watiki did direct Thor Raganok and is directing the sequel. He's also directed at least one episode of The Mandalorian. So he does have credits doing big budget "science fiction"... or at least works in a sci fi setting with all of the same kinds of technical issues that go into that. The real question is whether the studio will give him the financing to do it justice. As a writer he is known for his comedic dialog, but directorially he has an impressive visual style that even the Disneyesque Hunt For The Wilderpeople has on display.
I think Taika is a very talented director. He was the director of Thor Ragnarok and has been involved with The Mandalorian. I think he is one of the few directors who is talented enough to do a decent version of the Incal and one of the fewer number if directors who is bold enough to try. I think Dune might have the same of effect on the movie and TV industry that the original Star Wars had in 1977. That movie led to both the original Battlestar Galactica TV series being approved and Star Trek the Motion Picture, along with many other projects. We are already seeing Hyperion and Incal...I wonder what will be next.
I dont know about that, star wars completely flipped the industry. the current push for sci fi, is more because everything else is worn out, we had 20+ years of comic stuff. sci fi has had historical periods of high productions and low production. dune is more a throwback to an earlier style of film that is rarely seen in big budget, malick is one that does the same thing, thin red line for example. hyperion isn't getting made, it is getting shopped. it already failed as a tv production, its getting made when someone is signing the invoice, that is not the case yet. that is what the article is about in deadline, fishing for interest.
I was watching the third (and for the time being final) season of _Final Space_ when I started to think "Avocato reminds me a lot of the Metabaron from The Incal... whait... a down-on-his-luck fool tasked with saving the universe alongside a reformed super-mercenary, the mercenary's young son, and a wise warrior woman the main character has a crush on; a flying animal sidekick, an animal-headed crewmember, encounters with giant gods, an existencial treat of all-consuming darkness, metaphysical confrontations with the self... Oleng Rogers definitively read The Incal at some point"
Great news! Taika is the perfect choice for this, his comedy is really dark and that really shows in Jojo Rabbit and Boy. But his stylish and really entertaining Thor Ragnarok, along with the episodes of Mandalorean he both starred in and directed were great. The budget will be whatever it needs to be, Taika is a hot commodity and studios will throw their weight behind Incal both based on Taika's popularity and the success of Dune.
age 14 now Roman Griffin Davis would be perfect age when this goes into production within 6 yrs. Btw... Taika's name is still attached to live action Akira movie.
Mira vos!, no se me había ocurrido que fry estuviera basado en jhon difool!, that serie is extremely important to me, in that time IWas obsessed with Moebius, a guy that made more than just comics, all was involved un his comics was ahead , philosophicaly tracendent
I can't imagine Jodo being alright with someone adapting Incal for him. I suspect the rationale is that he knows an adaptation is inevitable and he would rather have at least some input rather than it happening after his death.
Yes, I do wonder what LoTR and Dune would be like if they were done while the authors still lived? Such as Jodorowsky's original plan? Or was the elder Herbert still alive for 80s Dune?
Yes finally, these amazing stories are being given the respect they deserve. Dune, incal, foundation..would love to see chariots of the gods remade not to say Stargate was bad. Dune was is an absolute masterpiece and where the first movie deep.. hopefully the incal will be a real trip and we get sequels At long last science fiction movies are worth watching on the big screen
Incal-book i read was censored. The hero looses his clothes and walks around long time naked - not. Looks like someone made sure hero has sharpie-made black pants in all prints. Same as american print of Sillage vol 1 (check finnish wikipedia-article of Sillage)
_Dune,_ _Raised By Wolves,_ _Foundation,_ _Hyperion,_ _The Incal._ Hell of a time to be alive.
I'm ready for Rendezvous with Rama
@@jorgeabraham3414 Oh don't play... how has that not been made yet
That's how the wheels turn in Hollywood. Now for the next while they're gonna be on the hunt to adapt every sci-fi book that resembles Dune.
RIP the superhero movies, time to sail the hyperspace.
Don't forget The Expanse
I'm just glad we're finally getting hardcore scifi movies and series now. There's so much source material that could be used for the next 50 years.
50 years? They will still be making this stuff as remakes in 100 years from now. Yesterday's cult books are tomorrow's timeless classics. They are still doing remakes of Dickens, Zola, Verne, Welles, Stoker etc. If people are still reading books 50 years after they were written, they are here to stay.
If you look to the next half-century and look forward to being pacified and placated by mass-produced popular entertainment, you really haven't learned anything from all this science-fiction that you've consumed (as opposed to studied, learned from, reflected upon)
@@helvete_ingres4717 Science Fiction is exactly that. Fiction.
@@whssy They will be making gholas of Villeneuve and Waititi thousands of years from now.
"Hmmm, what have WE got that's a bit like *Dune* ???" - Every studio in Hollywood currently eyeing *Dune's* success.
Thanks LSD
LENSMAN, please, someone
To be fair, Jodorowsky was the first man to attemp to bring Dune to the big screen. But it was quite a... unique take on Dune. He even made the blueprint of the movie along Moebius.
But not as expensive and easier to understand - like dune the movie, not dune the book.
@@sp4msolo724 The green lantern movie but good.
So happy for Taika. We're in for a real treat for this one.
Quinn, always be you. Never change, we are all so grateful and thankful for your passion and for you sharing all this with us. It just rubs off on anyone who watches your videos. Even in face of all the hate (negativity), just remember that we...your community deeply care for you. Stay awesome.
What hate?
@@nostalgicbliss5547 He gets some bigoted trolls trying to attack him online.
I was not aware he's getting hate, that's very disappointing :( Keep your head up Quinn, I appreciate you!
So happy for Jodorowsky being "re-discovered" all this decades later. Multifaceted like very few people. He is, also, a great person and very down to earth. He answers through his twitter all the time. I hope one day we have a superproduction movie about his life
Didnt he made a movie about his whole life already? Wasnt it called "The Dance of Reality"?
This is the most exciting news I’ve gotten all day. I’m a HUGE moebius fan. I LOVE the INCAL
Moebius is great artist , got some of his rare books. He did have a really weird diet though. Not sure if it helped him 🤷♂️ Moebius also influenced Bladerunner and Neuromancer with a comic short story he did that Ridley Scott and Gibson read
@@Henbot "The Long Tomorrow" is basically the most influential (on movies) comic story ever - it defined dystopian sci-fi movies and how cityscapes would look. But remember, the Long Tomorrow was written by Dan O Bannon (with inspiration from Philip K Dick) before he made Alien. Moebius just did the art.
I just hope there will be several movies to cover the whole story. Maybe 3-4 movies is perfect. The first two volumes of the comic is like the most epic action story. So much is happening that it can barely be put into a single movie.
@@Kulumuli Exactly !
"I'm not saying they got it from Dune, but they got it from Dune."
Good! more Dune, less StarWars!
Tbh will probably be more Dune than the new Dune movie …
Your name is dope
Is that Galactic Federation Ambassador Katherine Sabers? Hey can you help me with a space parking ticket?
@@fun-with-purpose1436 not really. The new dune is closest to the source material that we've ever got.
I would have loved to see the Metabarons saga first because it's more Dune inspired but I get why they took this route. It's his best known work but it suits the director since it has trippy, comedic and dark stuff. I hope Jodorowski is heavily involved. And I hope there can be a series just like there'll be one on Dune - The Sisterhood - that will center on the Bene Gesserit, on the Technopriests graphic novels.
Bro, Dune's success has told all these production companies that people are ready for the next level of hard sci-fi after Star Wars and Star Trek have fallen off in quality. Were about to get some cinematic bangers!
Unfortunately people are pretty bad at writing screenplays these days, unless they base it off a book that was written beforehand. That's part of why Dune, the movie, is so great. So much good original source material.
Hopefully
@Tykjen Bradley Cooper was supposed to be Hal Jordan. Nice to see him in another SciFi movie instead.
I want lensman.
We could get a Warhammer 40k movie?
This is gonna be such an interesting mix of artistry. After this experience of finally getting into Dune and finding your channel, I know this is would be another great read. (Swoons)
That Jordorowsky has given his blessing and will be involved at some level gives to the film what no other rip off or dilution of the Incal body of works has had before, the real pedigree and the voice of the creator. Can't wait. Never thought it would happen and so psyched to see the finished product. The Holy Mountain changed the way I viewed film, hopefully this will leave a similar mark on the sci-fi genre.
Jodos films are crazy... but excellent! Holy mountain, el topo, santa sangre... all very good films!
If that is true i REALLY hope they will stay true to the book.
I know Judorowsky had no intentions of doing that with the Dune movie when he was adapting it, so if fair is fair he should be given the same "curtsy", when it comes to his creations.
But The Incal have been an inspiration for several movies, so i think it deserves to be faithfully adapted.
@@Erikjust just a quick FYI "courtesy" is showing respect for others, "curtsy" is a kind of bow usually done by women. "Curtsy" comes from the word "courtesy" and is done as a display of courtesy, but they arent interchangible.
@@Aurora2097 El Topo and The Holy Mountain are “different” movies. They are great cinematically, and their scripts are unique, but they are also ugly, grotesque, and offensive. I see them as the product of a sick mind.
@@nydaloth but they are INTENTIONALLY ugly, grotesque and offensive. IMO the Transformers movies are far more evidence of a disturbingly sick mind than that.
Stylistically and atmospherically, Waikiki sounds like a solid match for The Incal movie. What I've seen of his movies, his sense of humour lines up with the humour in the books as well, so as he is a solid director, I'm intrigued by this.
Also if ppl in the art direction of Thor Ragnarok be on board it would be really cool. I always tought Ragnarok colorfull and designs were Incal like.
Waititi?
@@toribiogubert7729 Taika Waititi had a lot ot do with the visual look of Ragnarok as he has a background in the visual arts both in his education and his father was an professional artist. Several of the space ships in the chase scenes were designed by him.
Thanks LSD
It's Taika Waititi. Don't know why everyone suddenly spelled it wrong
It's refreshing to hear news of Jodorowsky on his own terms, in relation to his own ideas - there's much more to him than just what he thinks about Frank Herbert - I wonder if anyone will be asking Jodorowsky to direct any of this if it turns into a series
I'm not the biggest fan of his filmmaking, but considering how much ongoing interest there's been in his conception of Dune, it's a pity this hasn't translated into more opportunities for him to actually direct
I think his most well known films are El Topo and Holy Mountain, which are certainly emblematic of their time and caught some kind of zeitgeist - they're definitely worth a look, and I wish there were more discussion of them - the best account I've seen is in Midnight Movies, from J Hoberman and Jonathan Rosenbaum - that's an amazing book - probably the best I've seen on cult movies
Considering he admitted to r4ping an actress he isn’t the best person to get involved with
@@Henbot He was talking about a fictional assault scene in El Topo. He was describing how intense that scene was for him and the actress. He speaks in an intense and passionate way and even said he r'd Frank Herbert. He is a product of the 70s where saying shit like that was not a big deal and English is not his first language. He regrets saying that since now he understands that people are taking him literally and not understanding the context with which he said that. The actress has never come out to say that she was assaulted, so all this is based on Jodo and how he used to say shit just to be provocative. He doesn't act like an edge lord anymore and talks about love and healing now.
He's 93, he said in a video that he can't take such a big task at his age
@@Henbot this is false.
@@Tracydot3 the actress completely disappeared and never did another film again and we already know rape victims don’t always come out until someone dies or lot of work
How wonderful, whether he makes or never makes his vision of Dune, there is no doubting Jodorowsky's tremendous talent as a filmmaker and storyteller.
he's never making it
He is extremely talented..a master even, but no thanks to his vision of Dune (Denis has got this). The Incal is what he should have gone for and now it's coming to life.
Seems kinda petty trashing Denis adaptation of Dune tho.
Nah, he’s a nutter
@@MuantanamoMobile The Fifth element wasnt already inspired by Incal or something like that?
I'm so happy for you my man, you made a Channel based around what you love and now that Studios, Production Teams and Streaming Servives are looking for more things to adapt, your content is prefect for excited new lore enthusiasts and the like!
I expected someone like Panos Cosmatos to adapt Jodorowsky and Mœbius' "The Incal". Here's hoping it's gonna be decent.
Mandy gave me the kind of experience I'd been hoping to get from El Topo or Holy Mountain
His style is way too slow, and to fit The Incal into the movie you'd have to just go go go.
@@Tumoxa89 Would it be better to condense the material into one film, or to choose part of it and just adapt that?
@@zmani4379 That's the big question when you adapt the book (or a graphic novel) isn't it. I'd say, drop less relevant parts of the story and adapt the rest. Condensing it would make scenes last 5 seconds me thinks. Also, I think, holywood kinda forgot about the format of mini-series, and that is a shame.
Have you seen Thor Ragnarok? Apart from the heavy comedy (which influenced other Marvel movies) the visual style is bold and unique and tinged with the kind of 80s gel light colors that Panos is known for. Of mainstream film directors with direct experience doing science fiction, Waikiki is probably the only one who could even attempt something like this without turning it into a "gritty realism" trope.
I truly believe the Metabarons would be an epic series
Now THAT would be epic!
This a 10000 times. Screw Incal. It sucks.
Yes.
Srsly, Steelhead is so cool as a character that I even accepted his love triangle
(Steelhead loved, bit didn't understand it. Zoran understood love, but didn't love. Vicenta yanked her eyes out during the happier period)
But I have a question: how did the caste bird preserve, if grandfather got rid of all his biological components and then got thrown out the window?
People who didn't read are probably like "yooooo wtf" 😅
I haven't read all of the INCAL, but what I have read definitely seems like Taika is the best director out there for it. He made the over the top weirdness of THOR: RAGNAROCK really enjoyable and easy to follow. And with Jojo Rabbit he moved through comedy and tragedy with aplomb.
I can't believe this is finally being done.....I've had a Möbius signed orginal for about 25 years.....this is awesome...I have to audition to be Kill Wolfhead
Now someone please do the Metabarons! The most metal scifi ever. Wild imagination like no other.
Metabarons are too hard-core for normal people.... maybe in a twenty years
As someone who's never read the original visual novel, I'm very much excited to watch this movie. Taika is talented and I think he'll do a very good job.
Man... This makes me really wish for "The Five Star Stories" full anime adaptation or maybe even big budget adaptation.
At least I am happy now TLOGH new season about to be release in 2022.
I really recommend Quinn to also look into Japanese space sci-fi works.
Japanese cyberpunk works are the peak of that whole subgenre for me. Do you have any recs for space sci fi?
@@lsdeann_3293 Are you two recommending "Space Battleship Yamato" or something like that?
I read the Incal back in the late 80s. Fantastic story. Great characters. FANTASTIC world building.
Hope it works.
There are very few - a handful of capable Directors whom I can class together with Denis Villeneuve, and Taika Waititi (who will be directing The Incal) is one of them. What a great time to be Alive. Please just let the creepy Facebook ("Meta") version of the Metaverse fail is all I ask for.
Waititi is a good filmmaker but not at the level of Denis. Denis is on his to reaching Spielberg, Scorsese and Kubrick levels.
@@Mehdz03 I mean that's your opinion. Waititi is up there for me after watching Jojo Rabbit
Taika is not that great of a director , and can't ever match up to Denis.
@@GaneshPalraj1991 It's like being on an Olympic winners pedestal, with Gold, Silver, and Bronze. All of them are winners but Denis has the Gold medal.
@@jeremiahfelipe8008 Objectively speaking Denis has 5 movies for every 1 Jojo Rabbit
I absolutely LOVE Jodorowsky's universes... indeed happy days for Sci-Fi fans! Thanks Quinn
Thank you Quinn. I have something new and " strange" to look forward to.
I love the incal saga, I have all the albums. Another fantastic sci-fly character is Yoko Tsuno from Roger Leloup, the album “The 3 suns of Vinea” is absolutely perfect, it is a box office success script awaiting to be discovered. The aesthetics of the spacecrafts are stunning and scientifically accurate.
Thanks for clarifying the INCAL. Graphic books were never part of my reading list which explains why I wasn't familiar with the name
please adapt the metabarons next. its the single most inspiring work i ever read.
Correction:
moebius was alive when before and after Incal were released.
He refused to work on “before” cuz of some work.
He did work on “after” but after a few pages the writer went with another artist because of disagreements.
Moebius died years after all three books were done.
Exactly. I like Moebius a lot more than I like Jodo, so I remember deciding not to buy them while Moebius was still alive. Did end up getting them as part of the Humanoids Humble Bundle package earlier this year- but haven't read them (I speak French and avoid translations wherever possible).
Moebius or Jean Giraud as his real name was died only 9 years ago in 2012. And he did work as production designer on The Fifth Element so I don't get people who still keep saying "The Fifth Element ripped off Moebius"
@@Ozymandias1 Also exactly. Sure, Besson "borrowed" heavily from Jodorowsky's concept and has been open about it - Korben Dallas is basically John Difool but with special forces training. Moebius was completely on board with it. He certainly designed Diva Plavalaguna, the police, the Mondoshawans (whose spaceship is basically Major Grubert's hat) and I would imagine the sarcophagus and the temple - which are quintessentialy Moebius. There was probably more but the ones I listed are the ones I have seen his concept art for.
Yes, there is two sequels séries After thé incal, 2 alternative sequels, After thé incal and fina incal
Would love to see a series based on the Metabarons as well.
Ivan (John) the Fool is one of the main protagonists in Russian folklore and he usually comes out to be the wisest in the story.
On another note, this reminded me that I have read the Metabarons many years ago, need to go back and check whether I read it all,
As much as I love The Incal, I think a better play would have been to make The Saga of Metabarons series to get people hyped for the universe and then spring The Incal. But I guess, sure, we can start with the best (and weirdest) part of that setting and then later move on to the slightly more pedestrian.
That video of Jodorowsky giving his blessing gives me some hope
Considering how he did Thor: Ragnarok, I'm actually kind of not so surprised Taika Waititi has been connected to putting a Moebius comic book to the big screen. He might be a pretty good fit.
The Incal is one of my favorites. I think it is in good hands because the world is so comical and bizarre. But very difficult to adapt - even more than Dune. Cautiously excited!
I first read the Incal when it was serialised in Heavy Metal magazine back in the 80s. Quite brilliant and unique.
Excited! I loved dune, am really liking foundation looking forward to Hyperion. But if you haven’t already I am formally requesting a book shelf tour, from what I see in this video it’s definitely goals.
As for The Incal I have this feeling it would end up something like Valerian where I’ll end up really liking it and everyone else hates it.
Quinn I have to salute you my brother for references the FOOL tarot card to Phillip J. Fry!
You threw me off with these "there's 3 books"... the core Incal series had 6: roughly translated Black Incal, Light Incal, What's Below, What's Up top, The 5th Essence part 1 and 2. The first ones were also published in Métal Hurlant in shorter periodical.
Then there's sequels and spin off and prequels series, 3 Incal ones, the Meta-Barons, and 2 others. Later there was multiple new editions too.
But of course you're referencing the English translation and US publication.
If they makes movies, don't assume they will go with the whole US books though. The core story was designed for 6 books, they may use that to guide multiple movies, maybe with a trilogy of double books or something.
English version has 6 books too, but in 3 volumes.
the six books are the same in english just packaged in 3 volumes
Your collection is exquisite.
I saw Jodorowsky announce this on his IG. I have not read the Incal yet and will soon. I'm a big Jodo fan and am excited that this is being made into a movie. Very curious about the budget as well.
You sure it influenced star wars? I'm way older then you and read the first part of the Incal in the adult comic book "heavy metal" in 1982. Which was after episode 4
I should have been more specific. Star Wars Episode 2 is one influenced by the incal.
@@QuinnsIdeas No Way Attack of the Clones is inspired by the Incal?
You mean Empire Strikes Back?
@@mrevilducky no there's a lot in AOTC that is lifted or inspired by The Incal
@@mrevilducky I think Star Wars was heavily influenced by Valerian & Laureline
@@galacticfederationambassad4063 completely agree
Hey, it was cool seeing you at the movie! I'm glad I got to see it in Imax.
All your videos are so insightful good work quinn!
Taika Waititi pretty much proved he can pull off something like this with Thor: Ragnarok. Hopefully, though, this doesn't go the way of Valerian.
Taika is a solid director and comedian too. He won't let it flop.
@@MuantanamoMobile What we do in the Shadows also needs more love. The Movie and the Show are both hilarious.
@@thedragondemands5186 It was a box office flop. To be fair, I think it was largely due to the uncharismatic leads they had cast for the film, but contributing to that was also the obscurity and accompanying weirdness of the material, which is still a stumbling block for mainstream audiences. And The Incal is so, so obscure for people not into bande dessinée.
@@goyasolidar are you hollywood prodoocer? who gives a shit how much mOOni it made, Valerian is great and will always be great movie.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz A 47% critic score and 53% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes begs to differ. That and my own film-viewing sensibilities. How much money a movie makes absolutely matters because (a) that's really the only quantifiable measure available for assessing whether or not a film has mass appeal, and (b) making back the money from production costs (and hopefully a tidy profit) is the prime motivator for studios to carry out future projects in the same vein, including the possibility of sequels. If movies of a certain genre or type do badly in the box office, then studios will be less inclined to gamble on making more of those types of movies.
I think the Dune movie is starting to push other epic adaptations, that's so exciting. Hyperion will get announced too, I have the feeling.
That graphic novel collection makes me drool🤤
Moebius is my absolute favorite artist and the incal is really wonderfully trippy and creative. Im excited but nervous about the adaptation.
How have I not discovered this channel before?!
Also Quin, If you like Moebius work, who's real name is Giraud, you may like Blueberry. Its a western comic, but a very good one!
My appreciation of Alejandro J goes back to the release of his first movie -- El Topo -- in 1970... It remains one of my top 10 movies ever made!
Have NOT read any of his graphic novels, but you've got me interested. Thanx
So Quinn's got an INCAL-ing of what the movie is going to be about. 😎😎😎😎😎
Question: does Quinn have a video with rankings or a list where he goes over his personal top 10 or top 5 best sci-fi sagas?
all roads lead to Dune
Ooh, ho ho ho, I see Metabarons on your bookshelf, now this is the one I would be looking forward to a movie adaptation. Although I don't see it ever happening.
thanksfor exposing me to so much i wasnt aware of. thought i was out of good sci fi
Can we get a video about your bookshelf? I'm curious about all of the books you have.
I don't normally get hypes but I'm keen as all fuck for this
I looooooooove the Metabaron, literally would die of happiness to get that adapted
The Idea’s must flow.
Off topic, but I just watched an amazing preview of the Chinese version of The Three Body Problem, and it looks amazing! Right out of the book kind of amazing! I can’t wait!
DiFool isn’t just archetypal, but specifically an interpretation of the tarot’s The Fool Trump card, the first of the 22 Major Arcana, who is portrayed in the tarot as mid-fall off a cliff (how the book begins and ends) and is usually accompanied by an animal or pet, usually a dog nipping at his heel (Deepo)... the book goes through the other 21 Major Arcana as the story progresses, and is all about magick initiation and gnosis... anyone who’s seen Holy Mountain will clearly see that Jodorowsky is influenced and inspired by western occult systems like Thelema and Golden Dawn. Think about this stuff next time you read through it...
Here’s a description of The Fool tarot card: “The Fool represents new beginnings, having faith in the future, being inexperienced, not knowing what to expect, having beginner's luck, improvisation and believing in the universe.”
Fits like a glove, don’t it? ;)
Actually, Jodorowsky is influenced by _every_ occult system
yeah man they should 150% animate this and go the heavy metal vibe :) or go that 'live action' avatar type thing and go full fx where possible to give it that oh hell yeah status . . . lots of cool stuff on the horizon i hope they do it all justice like they deserve :)
Completely agree. CGI has made studios want to make live adaptations of everything, when traditional hand-drawn animation would be a much better fit for many of the stories.
I was not expecting this but it seems like the perfect fit to me. Really looking forward to how it progresses.
This news and Dune has made me remember when I first got obsessed with Jodo Dune how I wanted Tarsem Singh to direct a revival. Might be too late but if they ever did Metabarons maybe
nice shout out to Tarsem, good director, shame he hasn't done more work.
Tarsem Singh and Jodorowsky sound like a good match
Jodorowsky is a weird dude and incredibly self-absorbed. Both El Topo and The Holy Mountain are beautiful looking art pieces, but they’re not film entertainment, they belong in an art museum not a movie theatre. That’s just my opinion of course. With that said, Moebius artwork is magnificent, so that alone is a good reason to pick up the graphic novel.
My thoughts exactly. He makes very avant-garde art films that most regular people would hate. There's nothing wrong with that, but people who have only ever watched his Dune documentary really should try watching some of his work before getting caught up in the hype. I've not got around to reading the Incal, but I'm suspecting whatever we get is going to be very, very different from what Jodorowsky would have produced himself.
Agreed.
have you heard the term 'cult movie', or 'midnight movie'? Jodorowsky's films typified that idea - that is, they were some of the first films to be called cult films. They were a staple of the cinema in their time - playing late at night for an adult crowd. Saying they don't belong in a cinema and only in an art museum puts you excessively towards the pop-entertainment/Marvel movie end of the spectrum (which I don't say snobbishly, being polarised in either way limits your vision) and really illustrates how dumbed-down and desensitised to any originality the avaerage consumer of entertainment has become in this age of corporate homogenisation . When you say they're 'not film entertainment' - all that point essentially is is they're too different from Marvel etc. too different from what you've been conditioned to see as entertaining. And restricting your praise to how they 'look' (thanks to recently-deceased cinematographer Rafael Corkidi far more than Jodorosky himself) says you got nothing out of them in terms of their themes/symbolism (of which there's a lot)
I'm down for some Jodorowsky movies
Taika Watiki did direct Thor Raganok and is directing the sequel. He's also directed at least one episode of The Mandalorian. So he does have credits doing big budget "science fiction"... or at least works in a sci fi setting with all of the same kinds of technical issues that go into that. The real question is whether the studio will give him the financing to do it justice. As a writer he is known for his comedic dialog, but directorially he has an impressive visual style that even the Disneyesque Hunt For The Wilderpeople has on display.
Can we get an Ultimate Guide to the Jodoverse series? I would love to hear your take on some of them!
I'm not surprised Taika is attached, look at who is doing the screenplay.
I have a large Moebius collection and I am looking forward to this, with a bit of apprehension...
Where is the video where Quinn talks about 3 body problem? I read that book at his recommendation and wanted to watch that vid afterwards.
Your voice is so amazing. Someone needs to have you do voiceover work.
I think Taika is a very talented director. He was the director of Thor Ragnarok and has been involved with The Mandalorian. I think he is one of the few directors who is talented enough to do a decent version of the Incal and one of the fewer number if directors who is bold enough to try.
I think Dune might have the same of effect on the movie and TV industry that the original Star Wars had in 1977. That movie led to both the original Battlestar Galactica TV series being approved and Star Trek the Motion Picture, along with many other projects. We are already seeing Hyperion and Incal...I wonder what will be next.
I dont know about that, star wars completely flipped the industry. the current push for sci fi, is more because everything else is worn out, we had 20+ years of comic stuff. sci fi has had historical periods of high productions and low production. dune is more a throwback to an earlier style of film that is rarely seen in big budget, malick is one that does the same thing, thin red line for example. hyperion isn't getting made, it is getting shopped. it already failed as a tv production, its getting made when someone is signing the invoice, that is not the case yet. that is what the article is about in deadline, fishing for interest.
OMG YES, and Taika is doing it! WHAT!!!!?
We are living in a very interesting time.
oh no way .. THE I N C A L ???? *immediately loses mind and takes a chainsaw to the neighbours*
Quinn’s - thumbs up given , comment written - as I do appreciate your content! 😁
I’m super excited! I love this book and I LOVE Taika Waititi!
Cool that you have “paper girls” in like that one also.
There's also "After the Incal" an unfinished version of what would become Final Incal but drawn by Moebius.
Strange Brain Parts aka Overlord Comics did a great video explaining this one.
Im curious if u didnt notice the irony that Fry and Fool are literally dressed the same
Thanks for the Heads up.
Been waiting for this one.
Awesome thanks for the video. Have you read The Prince of Nothing Trilogy From R Scott Bakker?
and he has Dune to thank for it XD, sci fi is back and its money baby.
I was watching the third (and for the time being final) season of _Final Space_ when I started to think "Avocato reminds me a lot of the Metabaron from The Incal... whait... a down-on-his-luck fool tasked with saving the universe alongside a reformed super-mercenary, the mercenary's young son, and a wise warrior woman the main character has a crush on; a flying animal sidekick, an animal-headed crewmember, encounters with giant gods, an existencial treat of all-consuming darkness, metaphysical confrontations with the self... Oleng Rogers definitively read The Incal at some point"
Holy shit but yes.... Except thé flying sidekick.... Deepo IS smarter than kevin
@@freddysirocco9577 And waaaay more charismatic
Hopefully they make "The Reality Dysfunction", "A Fire Upon the Deep", "Eon", "The Uplift War" and their associated series.
HOLY FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IAM A HUGE INCAL FAN, YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great news! Taika is the perfect choice for this, his comedy is really dark and that really shows in Jojo Rabbit and Boy. But his stylish and really entertaining Thor Ragnarok, along with the episodes of Mandalorean he both starred in and directed were great. The budget will be whatever it needs to be, Taika is a hot commodity and studios will throw their weight behind Incal both based on Taika's popularity and the success of Dune.
age 14 now Roman Griffin Davis would be perfect age when this goes into production within 6 yrs. Btw... Taika's name is still attached to live action Akira movie.
Mira vos!, no se me había ocurrido que fry estuviera basado en jhon difool!, that serie is extremely important to me, in that time IWas obsessed with Moebius, a guy that made more than just comics, all was involved un his comics was ahead , philosophicaly tracendent
I can't imagine Jodo being alright with someone adapting Incal for him. I suspect the rationale is that he knows an adaptation is inevitable and he would rather have at least some input rather than it happening after his death.
Yes, I do wonder what LoTR and Dune would be like if they were done while the authors still lived? Such as Jodorowsky's original plan? Or was the elder Herbert still alive for 80s Dune?
@@dubuyajay9964 he was. He actually had a fairly positive opinion of it, believe it or not.
Here intersting piece of trivia, most common protagonist in Russian folklore is John the Fool also known as Ivan durak
So exciting.
Side note, I want a Quinn review of HOLY MOUNTAIN.
U have an amazing book collection!
Yes finally, these amazing stories are being given the respect they deserve. Dune, incal, foundation..would love to see chariots of the gods remade not to say Stargate was bad.
Dune was is an absolute masterpiece and where the first movie deep.. hopefully the incal will be a real trip and we get sequels
At long last science fiction movies are worth watching on the big screen
Incal-book i read was censored. The hero looses his clothes and walks around long time naked - not. Looks like someone made sure hero has sharpie-made black pants in all prints. Same as american print of Sillage vol 1 (check finnish wikipedia-article of Sillage)
Ok that's hillarious, how do you even censor half of that stuff?
Yep, everyone wants their own Dune now.
we need more real sci fi than superheroes stuff
@@jorgeabraham3414 everyone got tired of capeshit