I'm 50 now and lucky enough to have been able to work all my life. I have purchased and ridden most of my dream bikes during my life and have to say without hesitation that the Pan is probably the best bike i've ever owned. Buy a used Pan in decent condition for around 6k sterling and i promise you that it will remind you why you loved bikes in the first place. Amazing machines. Thank you Honda.
I'm an FJR1300 rider but its basically the same type of bike - a sport tourer. By the time you have graduated to this type of bike the key things that matter are its ability to eat up miles in comfort while still being usable for daily short jaunts as well as being highly reliable and having low maintenance costs (Italian bikes need not apply). I personally don't care about not having a multi-coloured TFT screen that asks me if I am having a good day or letting me know it is ready to race every time I turn on the ignition key. To me the fact that the bike is still using the same basic engine that it had when it was released 20 years ago is a good sign . . . . they got it right the first time. Loved the cartoon
I am the perfect candidate for a large sport tourer. Been riding 50 years with hundreds of thousands of miles on me, am 66, retired, and have ridden over 27,000 miles in the last year. But I went with an adventure bike instead. A 2023 Vstrom1050. Which is 100 pounds lighter, more agile, and more sporting. And I love the big TFT display, the cruise control, suspension, brakes. Is a very complete, mature and well sorted out machine. Other than normal wear items like tires, brakes etc, not a single thing has gone wrong with it. This is why the big ADV class is so popular now.
I think the real reason Honda stopped making the ST was because once people bought one, they weren't buying another new bike again. It's a bike for life and nearly impossible to improve upon.
Yes - had several and now looking at another. After having ridden just about every brand and type of bike over the last 52 years, I would have to say that the ST 1300 is right amongst the top two or three all things considered. A 6the gear and Cruise control would rated it number one for me. 😎👍
@@OzBlokeI had Cruise control on ST1300 and it's excellent to have. Regarding 6th gear...at 5.3liters it would drop with 6th gear at 4.3 which would be funny. That gearbox is just bulletproof in compare to BMW crap they make and others also.
I have a 2003 one with 25000 km since 2008. It is now on 125000 km with no problem whatsoever. When serviced it only needed oil and filters, no adjusting of the valves or anything else needed. When driving it is a bit nervous around 110 km/h, but that was solved with Hyperpro springs front and back, with the correct damperoil. It will be my last motorcycle, being 62 now. I do drive not enough, but selling is at this point no option.
Fantastic bike. I bought one (2003) two months ago for summer trips during Covid19 because it was the cheapest used sports-tourer with cruise control (aftermarket). It exceeds all my expectations. Handles great even at low speed, smooth engine, great brakes (ABS), fantastic suspension and devours steep mountain roads. i have been all over the Canadian Rockies and British Columbia with it (7000+ km). The most incredible value in used bikes for 500 km to 800 km days. (less than $4000 CAD).
I just bought my first road bike. ST1300 and its 1350 miles away. I was considering riding it home? Thoughts? Also I was wondering if and/or what you use for cruise control? Also distance between stops for stretch/gas?
@@colinm1325 I'm still getting used to it and outfitting it. My first road bike and it's heavy. It didn't fit me just right from the factory. I replaced the stock seat with a Corbin and that helped a lot. I've got a bar riser that I plan to install shortly that I think will help as well. I installed a GoCruise2 for cruise control which also helped a lot on mileage days. The biggest thing for me is getting used to riding around all the 4 wheelers. Hopefully plan to start making some moto camping trips this year.
@@stephenlane7951 Hey Stephen, how's the st going? The cruise control, seat and the bar risers, have these made it just right for you? What's your hwy cruise consumption? Ok, njoy the ride👍
@@colinm1325 The seat and cruise control really helped. I just put a new rear tire Battlesxe T32 GT and it feels great. Haven't put the bar risers on yet but still in the plans. I can get 50+ MPG at 55 MPH down to 40 MPG at a steady 80 MPH, but avg. about 39 to 40 MPG over a tank of fuel.
Absolutely agree with this review! 👍. My ST1300 Pan European is my 15th bike, and I have the same experience. It is amazing how Honda managed to combine comfort, power, agility and fun in one big touring machine. And remember: the ST1300 is nearly 20 years old construction, and it still feel modern to ride 😊
Also my opinion - one of the best bikes! I owned two of them, a blue one and now a silver one, and I make nearly 200'000km with them, without any problems.
Possible to find a 2012, 50000km for 6000€ in France, not so appreciated here .... Considered as too heavy and old style, More success for the FJR1300.
Absolutely, have owned a ST1100 for more than 20 years, it is still a great bike. Switched it for a VFR1200 because I fell in love with it but the ST’a are superb
Just back from a 2000 mile road trip round the UK. What a machine. I have had it eight years now and have never wanted anything else. Before I had a Fazer, a VFR and a Suzuki Scrambler. I agree with all your comments. At the age I am now my children and grandchildren feel I ought to pack it in. They are going to be disappointed . It's not going anywhere soon.
Thank you for your vid sir. I purchased a retired police ST1300 about 10 years ago and took off the single seat and “bump” behind it and a buddy of mine and I retrofitted it with a Corbin dual up seat that I bought used on eBay. I also put risers on the handlebars and removed the ugly “ear type” engine guards which are common on the police edition. I’ve put 35,000 miles on the bike and love it. Its pretty easy to maintain and I do most all the work myself. Glad you’re enjoying yours so much - they really are great bikes.
Absolutely love this review. Had my 09 ST 1300 for 4 years now and love it. I ride 2up with the wife 90% of the time and she loves it as much as me. Both in our 50s and very comfortable. Great touring bike and have none thousands of miles around Europe and hasn’t missed a beat.
Absolutely excellent review. I had a ‘00 ST1100 for many years & loved it. However being 6’4” and aging my knees just couldn’t take it anymore. 2 years ago I bought a Honda VFR1200x, a CrossTour”, and found it to be fabulous. And yes, OMG is it ever always a torque monster and very comfortable.
This review has a pleasant, personal tone to it. I’m on my third Pan having traded my first 2003 model for an RT (big mistake), then bought a 2004 Pan as a second bike to my unreliable GS and found I was riding the Honda more. Got rid of both in order to buy the latest Pan I could find (2015 reg but obviously a 2012/13 model) and which I will now keep. Great for two up touring and fun solo. Adjustable seat useful for us short-legged riders!
I rode the 1999 st 1100 for around 3yrs and just loved it. Just about to buy the st1300, just nostalgia such an amazing machine, so reliable and sat on it in the showroom and had a lump in my throat as to how iconic this bike is. Such an amazing bike and will cherish this for many years to come, Great video.
In Australia, the ST1100 and 1300 are a fairly popular bike with long distance riders. The 28 Ltr tank is needed in Oz, as there can be 400ks between fuel stops. I have been riding the 1100 for 6 or so years, covering nearly 160000Ks.
After being away from motorbikes for 25 years I just bought a 2004 pan european for £2600 . It has done just 38,900 miles. It does need some TLC, a bit of a clean, a bit of a service, but your video gives me the confidence you go out and enjoy it. Thank you.
I'm watching this in September 2020. I own a 2005 ST1300 in Australia, owned for 13 years, and finding it very difficult finding a replacement. The stationary weight is a lot, 300kg, but once mobile, it still brings a smile to my face everytime I am out on it. I do not want an Adventure Tourer as I am not interested in unsealed road riding. I want a road Tourer, an upright style bike. I do not like 'cruiser' style tourer. I agree that the 'aging' ST1300 is still a great bike.
This is undoubtedly the best ST review...and I've seen them all by now. Informative, interesting, completely comfortable extemporaneous conversation, as if you're just talking to your best friend. Kudos! Amsterdam is a lovely place and your riding is top notch. Great video.
Bought mine when they first came out in 2002. Great bike, kept it until 2012. Superb machine, it can tour with Gold Wings and play with sports bikes. Great on fuel and a massive fuel tank range. At 80 mph on a motorway the bike felt so competent and gave the rider a genuine feeling of confidence. Wonderful Machine. A much underrated bike. If you want to see how they can handle look at the American police slow riders.
Congratulations, this is probably the best and honest review on a Pan-european st 1300 on youtube. I'm in love with this bike since I first saw them, can't wait to put my hands on one, just waiting for better times. Thanks for this video. Enjoy your st and keep biking, stay safe 🤙🤙
I have an 04 ST and broke the 105,000 mile mark and am still ridding. I love the bike so much I just bought an 08 ST with only 13,000 miles on it so when mines finally ready to retire I have one in the stables all ready to go.
Yes, you only ride this kind of bike when you're older and realise that actually they're broadly better than everything else. Such a great review, thanks!
Thank you for such a great review. It seems that theres going to be a real gap with the absence of this from the Honda range and also the VFR800 is now effectively deleted. This means a whole generation of riders are going to assume that the adventure bike is the pinnacle of riding. This is a huge disservice to riding. They will be missing the pleasure of a big engined, long legged distance machine that leaves a smile on your face and you glutes operational after more than 200 miles. You nailed it on the reasons why: no one wants the potential reputational damage but that approach will deny a generation of riders one of the best riding experiences around.
I still own a 09 Pan which I got new. Every single thing you said is true. Even the negatives. The best bike I ever riden. I addore the thing and this review is so to the point! Great job!!!
Your analysis of this bike are intriguing, and making me think twice about jumping out of my love and respect for my GL 1500 and trying this one. Kudos from one wrench to another.
I bought mine new in 2012 and love it. Last year I thought about downsizing and tried both a CB500X and a Moto Guzzi V85TT. I liked both but riding home from both tests convinced me that I would be better off keeping the Pan. I love it for long distance touring and it’s great on twisty roads and in the mountains. Great weather protection and economical as well. *****
@@mikkei3532 Nice looking bike! I think the lighter weight of the 1000 definitely helps with average Mpg. Once the ST gets moving it gets pretty good fuel efficiency. 53 mpg at 55mph, 47 mpg at 65mph, and 44 mpg at 70 mph. I generally let mine warm up a good while before I take off and short sporty trips don't add up to good avg mpg unfortunately. Still better than the 15 mpg with the truck! :)
Thanks for the video. The police force here in New Zealand have ST1300 for their patrol bikes. I'll be test riding one this weekend, so I decided to look up TH-cam for reviews. Because of your experience with other motorcycles you actually give good insight. I enjoyed your video.
I bought a used 2010 ST13 in Nov '19. I've ridden around 5000km on it so far and loving it. Handles nimbly even at low speeds and maneuvering corners are a breeze. Love the smooth power delivery of the V4 engine and ride comfort is really good, even on long rides. My only complaint is the engine heat, especially in city traffic on hot days. I did experience the infamous wobble while riding 2-up with fully loaded panniers and a 52 litre top box at speeds above 140km/h. I must say that I fully agree with your advise regarding this issue.
Bought an 07 ST1300 in NZ this year for $6k NZ. It had 104,000 kms on it. I've been a GS rider for 10 yrs, still have my 07 1200 (140,000 km). The ST is more bike than I am a rider. Haven't exceeded 5000 rpm on it. That's 120 kph at 4000 rpm. More than enough for me. Bar risers are a useful upgrade.
Great video! Really glad to see this. Very comprehensive and love the enthusiasm. I'm watching for the first time on Aug 28, 2020 and I just bought my 2010 ST (non ABS) about six weeks ago. My other bike is a 1993 CB750 Nighthawk. I really love riding the ST. It doesn't have a top case, but I'm planning to buy one and go moto-camping. A gear indicator would be nice, but if I glance at my speed and RPMs I can tell which gear I'm in already so it's not that important. I've had it up to 90 mph and felt no wobble. I'm in Louisville, Kentucky, which is a far cry from Amsterdam....visited there in 1988 and slept on a boat. What a great city.
Enjoyed the video, love the enthusiasm and an honest report. I got a 2016 brand new ST1300 PA zero miles from dealer this September. Great deal, rode 1400 miles home to NYC from Missouri. At first I was not sure how it would perform on NYC streets, I know now that it handles real well both on city streets and highways. Lovely motorcycle. Waiting for the rear seat (on back order) so I can enjoy the ride with pillion rider as well.
Wow that must be great buying this bike brand new... I am even sometimes looking at those really low miles second hand bikes who still look in tip top shape... But I think I will upgrade mine with suspension mods and such. Offcourse I will videoreport that here when I will do this.
Just bought a used 2005 st1300 with 30k miles in July...it's my 12th bike(been riding since the 80's) and it is the best bike that i have owned. Handling/power/brakes/comfort. Awesome!
Your video reminds me why I bought my 2003 st1300 in 2016 with 2600 miles. It now has 11500 miles. I don’t ride a lot. It’s an amazing machine. Will full tank of gas it requires a bit of concentration when pulling out of garage. A bit tippy.. You are right about the motor. The st 1300 has as flat of torque curve as you can find. It makes its 80-90 pounds near 2000 rpms. Flatter and lower than the Kawasaki 1400 . And the low end power surprises me every time I ride it. The suspension is so so cushy. Easy on my back compared to my other bikes, over the bumpy pavement. The brakes are strong. And the windshield,, adjusts to fit any situation. Thank you
@@davidallen1213 The brand was GFYSHIP for ST1300. I bought mine on a local auction site and it arrived in 5 days direct from CCP. It installed very easily and operates perfectly. Only where I positioned it I had to extend the wiring 30cm/1foot. My mate bought his on Alliexpress, half the price and took a month to arrive. Just search Gear indicator + your model on Alliexpress. For the most part you don’t need one but I find first and top very handy.
@@davidallen1213 my total list of farkles. Heated grips, helibar riser, air horn stebel nautilus, gear indicator, power outlet in glove box, outer reflectors on side cases, phone ram mount. I love that the ST1300 is a blank canvas I can have fun with 😊
Great Review! I have a Dark Blue ST 1300 but looks Black at times. I'm coming from an F 850 GS into Honda ST 1300 2 years ago and wasn't doing backroads as much and wanted performance on the Hwy. The V4 is an extraordinary engine. I have a set of Two Brothers pipes that are spaced out for the bike and they turn the V4 on Big Time. No need for the gear indication, you know what gear you are in with these pipes. There are enough vids with ST 1300 on You tube. The vids don't really serve the bike justice with these pipes until you have them on and it turns the bike into another entity, V4 just has a real nice growl you know what gear you"re in by the sound. I have a GIVI top box which is way more rounded than your top box but only carry my Lap Top back pack in it while touring and strap down( Using ROK Straps an absolute must no Bungie's) a rain proof duffle bag that acts as a back rest. I have no issues at 160 to 180 Kms per hr.passing vehicles but experience the usual turbulence caused by dual trailer Trucks. I have a set of Hwy pegs that swing out from engine guards like switch blade which is great just to stretch out for a bit of Moto Yoga. The bike performers amazing in Mountain twisties, I rarely break and just listen to the Two Brothers pipes and run 3rd and 4th. But going up hill though massive passes in the Canadian Rockies, the bike is absolutely seamless it just loves the tug of going up the side of a Mountain. I don't listen to music while on my bike, but the V4 paired with these pipes gets you in The Zone always even at low speeds in the city in fact that's where you are going to get the tickets. Great Bike!
Great review. You chose the best tourer thats been made this last 20 or so years. Bought mine in 2015. Absolutely would not change it. The over riding reason Honda stopped making this model is because they just could not make the engine Euro 4 emmisions compliant. The CTX 1300 was the veiled attempt at trying to achieve that by retuning the engine but it just wasn’t sufficient. See there is still a place in the market for bikes like this from Honda. Honda ceased production of both the ST and yhe CTX. Look what BMW have in their range, now where did they get their ideas for the K 1600 B & GT from I wonder?
if you are in the UK and challenge the emissions for ULEZ, any Pan after 2005 will get an exemption. Honda did well in seeing the future as far as they could. You are right about the CTX.
Great video. I also saw a Pan when I was about 16 and thought it looked brilliant. I got a Deville last year at 50 years old. First bike in 25 years. I am now thinking of a Pan. Holland is so nice too. Heading to Holland for our summer holiday this year, with the Honda. CRV that is. Maybe on a Pan next year.
I loved my first ST1300, a 2003 with 40K on the clock, for the way I could take off in the morning for a day ride and go from Shreveport to the Missouri/Arkansas border and back in an easy day. I kept it for six years ending with 185k. I traded it in for Peanuts and got a gorgeous red 2009 that had no miles on it in 2011. I kept it until 2016 and sold it with 85k. At 70, it was just too too heavy. It sat on the floor where I traded it in for three years for sale at $8k. A steal. Huge bags, big Givi top box. Honda’s fairing deflection kit that is remarkably good at quieting the air noise. Lovely mile eaters that never needed valve adjustments, timing belts, new plugs, nothing. Always happy to go to the store or head to Washington DC for a weekend.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed watching it during a work out on the rowing machine. I was looking at this bike, along with the FJR1300 and a few other touring types. I ended up buying something I thought I never would: 2018 BMW R1200RT. Bought it off an older gentleman and I have no regrets. Some issues, but I would purchase BMW again (you are correct it’s the Apple affect - I own Apple watches, iPhones, tablets and the IMac lol). Your bike is very nice. Cheers
I currently don't own a Pan either 1100 or 1300 but I would love to get one, my reason for not getting one as yet is that I am only 171 cm tall (5.7") and only weigh 72kg (around 11 stone) and so I might struggle with the weight of the bike. I must try to get a test ride at some point. I want to say that this is a great review and I congratulate you on your English, you speak it very well indeed.
Thank you! I don't have the bike anymore, but when I used to, my wife rode it very often. Your dimensions and weight are almost equal to hers... Length is definitely no problem since the seat can be put to a very low point.
Very good review. I still have my ST1300 - i have done 63000 miles on it and it still rides like new. Considering my options for a replacement. They are also ULEZ (Ultra Low Emission Zone) compliant for London from roughly 2005 - so that saves £12.75 a day :-) You are right about the gear indicator - I don't think I have ever redlined the bike, never needed to. Great on motorways, great on twisties, it's fantastically well balanced and has huge amounts of storage for touring. Current Honda replacement options is poorly equipped so I have been looking at BMW and Triumph. Think for me the only real option is the Trophy 1200 SE. Will keep you posted.
@@jamesreed5362 pretty much but local only for now,need to change rear tire,what do you suggest?michelin is still the best?Planning to have a long ride this summer,how about do you ride often?
Great review .Heat is a major problem in N. Calif summer riding can be brutal at times. I fixed the high speed wobble with a fork brace . big differences in handling . But I love my bike.
@@Crazygaucho62 hey Dan, did u get the st? Did u try some heat wrap, if so, how is it on those warm to hot days there? What things do you like or dislike, if any, things about it? Kind Regards
This is a great review and overview of the ST1300. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, practical experience and the facts and figures too. I have been a sports biker for many years and only just thought about an ST. mainly because I moved and want to cover some big distances to visit friends and family, but also because, much as I love my classic Fireblade ('97), I want to be able to enjoy longer rides and tours without any back ache! Of course, I am keeping the 'blade as well, but picking up my ST('05) next week. Your great review and pointing out good and bad things has convinced me to buy it! Thank you again.
@@cjmarren86 great! Rides very well and carries A LOT of luggage! It can cover 300 miles without stopping to refuel and is very comfortable. Heated grips and that lovely screen mean I can bike theough most of the winter too! A little heavy for manouving on the drive, but I soon got the hang of it. I'd recommend one.
I've owned lots of bikes in 40+ years of riding and this one is checking all the boxes. I've sold my Goldwing and will sell my VFR800. For me the ST1300 is perfectly situated in the middle. Great one up. Great two up. Happy around town or on the Hwy. and fun in the twisties. Dead nuts reliable and durable with a 300+mile / 500+km range.
I just saw your great vid of the ST1300 you're right on it. It's the best honest assessment of the bike I couldn't agree with you more. I purchased a new 05 candy red in 05 I'm truly impressed with the V4 engine it's so smooth and like you stated it doesn't need a sixth gear. Currently I've 66K on her and she is running good no mechanical issues.
Very enlightening video, I think you have hit the nail on the head in that it does n't have to be the latest and greatest bike to satisfy what motorcyclists want, i.e. reliability, comfort, practicality, and good build quality - as you say the Japanese do it well!!!. I have recently found a 2006 ST1300P -A, ex-police bike with only 12,000klms on it, so I am going to join the club and buy it. As a motorcyclist for the last 55 years I love bikes and I think the "low" tech ST1300 is perfect, won't ask me too many questions. Love the V4, great grunt, and super smooth, and bullet proof it you take care of it. I have a daily commuter, Honda Integra DCT, great little bike and I will keep it for the daily commute but any longer journeys will see the ST1300 get to stretch it's legs. Thank you again and please keep the videos coming Chiefpep.
Jemig man wat maak je het mij weer moeilijk , gekeken naar de fjr 300, de bmw 1200rt, de kawasaki gtr 1400, en dat jij hier zo van onder de indruk bent , ga toch ook ff kijken naar de Pan European ! echt een kanshebber voor mij . dank voor je eerlijke en overzichtelijke review !
Coming off of an ST1100, I had to choose between the ST1300 and the GTR1400. New, the GTR was less expensive and offered more power and traction control so I bought it. Having a short inseam and short arms, I spent a considerable amount of time and money lowering the bike and raising the handlebars. I got it just about right, but lowering the bike reduced ground clearance. In the fall of 2019, I saw an ST1300 and was surprised at how affordable they had become so, after looking for a nice one with ABS, I bought a 2007 model. With the higher bars and adjustable saddle, it was nearly a perfect fit. It had been neglected a little bit, but has been restored. I took it on a 3000 mile trip last year. Aside from melting a bottle of prescription pills, the bike was nearly perfect. The digital display is usually difficult to read, but everything else is great. I do miss the power of the GTR, but I can always ride it since I own both. Great review!
Nice of you to share this info with us here! Indeed, the bike is nice and low which compensates for the fact that it's so heavy. Most of us can use our legs instead of our toes to tilt it when standing stil. My wife is much shorter than I am and can thus ride it too.
I have this bike , really can't tell it's shaft driven, (all my other previous 6 bikes where chain), The clutch is hydraulic, & when the fluid needs changing it will remind you by having the disengagement too close to the handle bar .It has a external bleeder that's easy to reach, making this a snap.The only time you feel the weight of this bike is pushing it around on the gravel driveway.It's got great handling from crawling, to as fast as you can go, (saddle bags & all).I find it hilarious when I see video's of checking valve clearance, (actually adjusting them is similar to the car systems ). They seldom need adjusting after the initial check.To check them ,loosen the plugs , & bump the engine ahead with the rear wheel in highest gear.Then simply point the cam lobe directly away from the valve.my first check they were all in spec., the next check will be literally years away! Dislikes? , the bars come surprisingly close to the tank at full lock, & the led readouts are not bright enough & or big enough in sun light.
I can't wait to get one soon, I used to have a Honda Transalp and loved it due to the comfort, but after riding a friends Pan 1300 I fell in love with it instantly.
Great review. I love the handling and speed and i think that is what sport bikes are all about. Its big enough to pound out the miles and handles amazing in the corners.
I'm a younger st1300 owner myself as well (35). I've always loved touring bikes and for the past 13 years and I'm so pleased with it. We have traveled so many amazing places and it's always run so well. The BMWs (RTs STs GTs RSs) are super nice but these things in my opinion are more reliable and just need less maintenence. I'm comfortable I can put another 100k on mine after just crossing over 100k MI.
I am another younger ST1300 owner as well (25). This bike really does it all.. Its fast, easy to commute on and while its been called a "baby Goldwing" before by other riders i think it looks great in black. Coming from a Moto Guzzi its just so refined and smooth, however there are definitely days where i wish it was a little lighter haha.
Lovely machine, pan European is a good name for this machine I think. I imagine it can munch the miles without any problems except how much riding the rider can take as the rider will need a break but the bike won't. That V4 as well is pretty unique and with the Honda quality will go on and on, and on etc etc. Great bike and very enjoyable ride by internet which as I cannot ride any more in the real world this is as near as I can get without riding pillion lol.
Bought one and I am amazed I hadn't checked it out earlier! I was looking for an FJR1300 and one ride on the ST1300 I was converted. This bike is Synergy at its finest, it is more than the sum of its parts!!!
I found everything you said to be true, I would add that in the warm weather I have to keep the upper gas tank full then the tank stays cool running empty is much hotter
Great review thanks. I am on my second ST1300 and love it. I have a 2013 Goldwing for 2-up touring but the ST1300 is much nicer for solo trips. Agree with all you say Thanks again
Great video and agree with your comments on it. In fact you have made me reconsider my decision to buy a K1600GT which i am only thinking about because I've had my ST1300 off the road for past year fixing various items. After watching this I'm going to get off my lazy ass, finish up the ST and get it back on the road so I can ride it. Thanks chiefpep
I have a st1100 now love it and always loved the recognizable design of it, also when I was a young guy , 41 now and will buy the st1300 in a while. I do not smoke , do not drink beer ( well not every day) Men never grow old so that’s not a problem either.. I do not feel old and I surely do not have a big belly..friends of me DO ride racers, hyped naked bikes and “though” guy cruisers.. Well..I ride a V4, can take a shit load of stuff with me, can ride all day long and feel happy and dit when I step of the bike..yeah it is 29 years old has 142k km on it..always works and never any problem. You got to love the ST line. Top video ;)
Dank je wel voor deze video. Na veel jaren alleen auto gereden te hebben, ben ik begin dit jaar weer op de motor gestapt. Een ST1100 omdat ik hem zo mooi vond en vind. Het was even wennen, maar ik vind het een geweldige motorfiets. Ook heel praktisch. En als ik eens een keer jong(er) wil lijken, pak ik mijn VFR 750...
Thanks a lot for this vídeo. I am looking for a Touring bike like my next toy, i am a Honda fan and now you convenced me to buy one. Engine sound is awesome!!! Regards from Madrid
Do agree with all said. Maintenance wise they could of do a better job if to remove the rear axle you wouldn't have to unbolt the rear pipe. And make a head of the axle flat so you wouldn't need to hold it to tighten it, like other bikes do. Simple things yet Honda didn't think of it. As for the gear indicator you can get aftermarket from GiPro and it works like a clockwork (except showing the gear if the clutch pulled in). Great review!
Been all round the houses on all sorts of modern bikes but I’ve recently gone out and bought a lovely ST1100, for pretty much all the reasons you have. The riding experience is more honest on an older bike without all the tech ‘nanny-ing’ your riding.
I owned a silver 2007 ST years ago. Considering all aspects of the motorcycles I’ve had, it’s the best one I’ve owned, period. Honda’s ability to design a heavy bike that feels so balanced and manageable is impressive. Effortless power to launch from a light or eat miles on the highway (mine loved to run at 85 MPH LOL). Height adjustable seat and windscreen to dial in your leg room and wind coverage. The frame does get hot on the right side in warm weather. I sold the ST to buy my dream Harley which is awesome (Dyna Wide Glide with an Evo engine), but I still think about that ST and miss it.
Hello from US, enjoyed your video talking about the ST1300. I need to get a cruise control on it and update the seat. I bought my 04 ST1300 2 years ago and love it. Fun and powerful. Some riding vids on my channel including dicing thru traffic out on the west coast aboard the ST. Stay safe, ride long and ride well!
Excellent review. I have the 98 ST1100 in black and absolute great machine, so I can only imagine what the ST 1300 is like. I also have the 2006 Goldwing that is my comfort ride that has plenty of power that I need and handles fantastic for a big machine.
I test drove one of these for the first time ever today, August, 2021. Very clean, quite a few accessories, like the special foot pegs that fold in, Russell day long seat, wider higher windscreen, trunk, new Michelin pilots, original owner, I wanted to love it. It was 85° today, I told the seller I would not be right back. I told him I would be gone for at least an hour. I hit it off onto some roads that I would not have to stop through mostly countryside. When I got 15 minutes away, I soaked the first hot blast of air coming off of the engine/radiator.. I moved my feet out onto the foldout foot pegs made just for the ST 1300. The air coming out of those ducts in the faring to disperse the heat was worse on the outside of the faring. I did not stay out for an hour, I took the machine back, I was only gone about 30 minutes.. I told the owner, how could you ride this thing when the temperature goes above 75°. That is a lot of heat. I’m sorry, I am not gonna put myself through that. Thanks for the test ride.. I have owned two Yamaha ventures, they were worn on hot days, but nothing like a Honda ST 1300, I owned a GL 1800 Goldwing, the heat was not a problem. I owned four moto guzzis, I could feel heat but only one stopped on those machines. And it was nothing as hot as what this ST was pouring out.I did have and 1980s Honda saber 700 with the CBX style faring and bags which was an option from Honda. That motorcycle also was a blast furnace to ride. I could feel the heat coming through my arrow stitch one piece suit on a 60° day one April after I bought that machine used. I put it up for sale right away. I heard that the concourse 1400 and the FJR are also rolling ovens on warm days, so is the ST 1300. I’m sorry, I could never own a machine that blastsme with that much heat..I always wear all the gear, motorcycle/street bike boots, Kevlar jeans or leather jeans, padded mesh jacket in hot weather, leather jacket with elbow and shoulder patting & spine pad, ICON deer skin super duty gloves(I have a pair of those gloves that I have been wearing commuting five and six days a week for over 20 years, they won’t wear it, and they won’t shrink or grow) and a full face helmet/modular, and swimmers wax earplugs. With all that gear on, I don’t need more heat on warm days. It would be tolerable on a below 65° day, it would be welcome on a below 55° day.. I recently retired and sold my three street bikes. My GL 1800 Goldwing, my Moto guzzi norge, my 1994 Honda Pacific coast which I commuted on for 24 years. And I bought myself a Kawasaki Z 400. 365 pounds, 45 hp, water cooled, fuel injected, 62 miles to the gallon for the first 1500 miles so far, starts instantly, I did 21 modifications,Preload for cabs, Suzuki GSXR 600 shock, hepco becker Solid aluminum rack that plugs into the passenger seat and removes with the key. On that I installed a givi 31 L trunk, I added swingarm spools, rocks 2 1/2 inch bar risers, real horns, Taller windscreen, foam grips, tank bag, tank protector, gel seat pad, foot pegs with rubber on top from a VFR800, everything about the intake, exhaust, and fuel injection system is totally stock. I learned decades ago that the factory knows more than I do so I leave things stock in those departments. I do not like that it has ABS brakes. I experienced ABS brakes on a downhill cinder back road all my BMW K 1200 LT. I am hit the brakes, and there weren’t any. The ABS computer detected wheel slippage and the brakes did nothing. I actually was dragging my feet as I ran into a cyclone fence at the bottom of that road to stop..I am not a rookie. I have over 700,000 street miles, I’ve won six road racing championships, I was two time national champion. I can stand my beta trials bike on the front wheel.. I see no justification for ABS brakes on a motorcycle. I wish they would stop coming up with cures for problems that don’t exist like traction control, stability control, and ABS. Those things are for idiots.. I commuted for over 40 years on motorcycles, and I got caught at work in snowstorms that I had to ride my motorcycles home. If I had ABS brakes and that happened, I would not be able to ride the bike home like I did. Anyway, I wanted to love that Honda ST 1300 low mileage original owner nice condition bike I rode today. It’s just too hot
To bad to hear. There are a lot of mods to lead the heat another way so you won't or nearly feel it. But I guess you've allready made your choice. Good luck and ride safe!
Hello. Thank you very much for this video. I also have this bike and I will not summarize my feelings better then you did. Agree with every single word. Best video about ST1300.
I have recently discovered this segment and read everything about the ST1300, the FJR 1300, the BMW R1200RT, the Concourse 14, the Moto Guzzi Norge, and last but not least the Triumph Trophy SE. My favorite is the Triumph Trophy. The used prices here in the US are very close to the price of a Honda ST now, but the Triumph has more power, electronic suspension, cruise control, heated grips and seats, extremely efficient engine and large tank with a range of over 300 miles/500km. It also doesn't have the heat issues of the ST and the gauges look ten times better. Also no "Pan Weave" because the top case and panniers on the Trophy have flexible attachments that buffer any wind disturbances without transmitting them to the chassis. It would be great if you could ride one and make a video.
Thanks for your comment. I am considering to do a series of touringbike reviews. I'll take the Triumph in consideration but will do the RT first I think...
I'm 50 now and lucky enough to have been able to work all my life. I have purchased and ridden most of my dream bikes during my life and have to say without hesitation that the Pan is probably the best bike i've ever owned. Buy a used Pan in decent condition for around 6k sterling and i promise you that it will remind you why you loved bikes in the first place. Amazing machines. Thank you Honda.
I'm an FJR1300 rider but its basically the same type of bike - a sport tourer. By the time you have graduated to this type of bike the key things that matter are its ability to eat up miles in comfort while still being usable for daily short jaunts as well as being highly reliable and having low maintenance costs (Italian bikes need not apply). I personally don't care about not having a multi-coloured TFT screen that asks me if I am having a good day or letting me know it is ready to race every time I turn on the ignition key. To me the fact that the bike is still using the same basic engine that it had when it was released 20 years ago is a good sign . . . . they got it right the first time. Loved the cartoon
fjr is more like the vfr the pan is different
Well said.
I am the perfect candidate for a large sport tourer. Been riding 50 years with hundreds of thousands of miles on me, am 66, retired, and have ridden over 27,000 miles in the last year. But I went with an adventure bike instead. A 2023 Vstrom1050. Which is 100 pounds lighter, more agile, and more sporting. And I love the big TFT display, the cruise control, suspension, brakes. Is a very complete, mature and well sorted out machine. Other than normal wear items like tires, brakes etc, not a single thing has gone wrong with it. This is why the big ADV class is so popular now.
I think the real reason Honda stopped making the ST was because once people bought one, they weren't buying another new bike again. It's a bike for life and nearly impossible to improve upon.
Yes - had several and now looking at another. After having ridden just about every brand and type of bike over the last 52 years, I would have to say that the ST 1300 is right amongst the top two or three all things considered. A 6the gear and Cruise control would rated it number one for me. 😎👍
@@OzBlokeI had Cruise control on ST1300 and it's excellent to have. Regarding 6th gear...at 5.3liters it would drop with 6th gear at 4.3 which would be funny. That gearbox is just bulletproof in compare to BMW crap they make and others also.
I would tend to agree. I have a 2007 I bought off the show room floor in 2008. Enjoy it😊
I agree. They made the perfect bike!!
@@The_Touring_JediJust bought my 4th ST at 73 yo. 😎👍
I have a 2003 one with 25000 km since 2008. It is now on 125000 km with no problem whatsoever. When serviced it only needed oil and filters, no adjusting of the valves or anything else needed.
When driving it is a bit nervous around 110 km/h, but that was solved with Hyperpro springs front and back, with the correct damperoil. It will be my last motorcycle, being 62 now. I do drive not enough, but selling is at this point no option.
Fantastic bike. I bought one (2003) two months ago for summer trips during Covid19 because it was the cheapest used sports-tourer with cruise control (aftermarket). It exceeds all my expectations. Handles great even at low speed, smooth engine, great brakes (ABS), fantastic suspension and devours steep mountain roads. i have been all over the Canadian Rockies and British Columbia with it (7000+ km). The most incredible value in used bikes for 500 km to 800 km days. (less than $4000 CAD).
I Hope Honda will hear all this...
Agree 100% with you!
Which brand of cruise control do you have please?
@@andywiles7177
I have BrakeAway and works great
I have a 2007, love it
I love my ST1300. Just did 2818 miles in 5 days and it performed amazingly. Even on the Tail of the Dragon here in the US
I just bought my first road bike. ST1300 and its 1350 miles away. I was considering riding it home? Thoughts? Also I was wondering if and/or what you use for cruise control? Also distance between stops for stretch/gas?
@@stephenlane7951
Hey Stephen, how r u njoying the ST1300?
@@colinm1325 I'm still getting used to it and outfitting it. My first road bike and it's heavy. It didn't fit me just right from the factory. I replaced the stock seat with a Corbin and that helped a lot. I've got a bar riser that I plan to install shortly that I think will help as well. I installed a GoCruise2 for cruise control which also helped a lot on mileage days. The biggest thing for me is getting used to riding around all the 4 wheelers. Hopefully plan to start making some moto camping trips this year.
@@stephenlane7951
Hey Stephen, how's the st going? The cruise control, seat and the bar risers, have these made it just right for you?
What's your hwy cruise consumption? Ok, njoy the ride👍
@@colinm1325 The seat and cruise control really helped. I just put a new rear tire Battlesxe T32 GT and it feels great. Haven't put the bar risers on yet but still in the plans. I can get 50+ MPG at 55 MPH down to 40 MPG at a steady 80 MPH, but avg. about 39 to 40 MPG over a tank of fuel.
Absolutely agree with this review! 👍. My ST1300 Pan European is my 15th bike, and I have the same experience. It is amazing how Honda managed to combine comfort, power, agility and fun in one big touring machine. And remember: the ST1300 is nearly 20 years old construction, and it still feel modern to ride 😊
Also my opinion - one of the best bikes! I owned two of them, a blue one and now a silver one, and I make nearly 200'000km with them, without any problems.
Great to hear!
I have a silver one too, love it
Shhhh, don't tell everbody! They're so cheap, amazing value, awesome bike. Love mine!
Cheap!?
Not in Portugal unfortunatly
I just found a couple new ones...real cheap...cheap enough to have me looking into them
@@coldspring624 really? Where are you from and what prizes are we talking about?
Possible to find a 2012, 50000km for 6000€ in France, not so appreciated here ....
Considered as too heavy and old style,
More success for the FJR1300.
@@fredkriek539 I will do more reviews very soon. Also of FJR and BMW
Absolutely, have owned a ST1100 for more than 20 years, it is still a great bike. Switched it for a VFR1200 because I fell in love with it but the ST’a are superb
Just back from a 2000 mile road trip round the UK. What a machine. I have had it eight years now and have never wanted anything else. Before I had a Fazer, a VFR and a Suzuki Scrambler. I agree with all your comments. At the age I am now my children and grandchildren feel I ought to pack it in. They are going to be disappointed . It's not going anywhere soon.
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Thank you for your vid sir. I purchased a retired police ST1300 about 10 years ago and took off the single seat and “bump” behind it and a buddy of mine and I retrofitted it with a Corbin dual up seat that I bought used on eBay. I also put risers on the handlebars and removed the ugly “ear type” engine guards which are common on the police edition. I’ve put 35,000 miles on the bike and love it. Its pretty easy to maintain and I do most all the work myself. Glad you’re enjoying yours so much - they really are great bikes.
Great to hear. Love ex police bikes. When you ride them, they tell a story. Great
Absolutely love this review. Had my 09 ST 1300 for 4 years now and love it. I ride 2up with the wife 90% of the time and she loves it as much as me. Both in our 50s and very comfortable. Great touring bike and have none thousands of miles around Europe and hasn’t missed a beat.
Absolutely excellent review. I had a ‘00 ST1100 for many years & loved it. However being 6’4” and aging my knees just couldn’t take it anymore. 2 years ago I bought a Honda VFR1200x, a CrossTour”, and found it to be fabulous. And yes, OMG is it ever always a torque monster and very comfortable.
I have owned one for the last 6 years and still love it to bits. I completely agree with your opinions. The best bike I’ve ever ridden
I agree
This review has a pleasant, personal tone to it. I’m on my third Pan having traded my first 2003 model for an RT (big mistake), then bought a 2004 Pan as a second bike to my unreliable GS and found I was riding the Honda more. Got rid of both in order to buy the latest Pan I could find (2015 reg but obviously a 2012/13 model) and which I will now keep. Great for two up touring and fun solo. Adjustable seat useful for us short-legged riders!
I can totally relate to your choices! Thanks for sharing this! 👍
Bought a 2004 this summer with low km and I love it! So I agree totally with your review..this is a great bike even now!!
Watched a few reviews on TH-cam on the st1300 and by far this is the best review. Iam definitely going to buy one.😃
I rode the 1999 st 1100 for around 3yrs and just loved it. Just about to buy the st1300, just nostalgia such an amazing machine, so reliable and sat on it in the showroom and had a lump in my throat as to how iconic this bike is. Such an amazing bike and will cherish this for many years to come, Great video.
I know the feeling!
In Australia, the ST1100 and 1300 are a fairly popular bike with long distance riders. The 28 Ltr tank is needed in Oz, as there can be 400ks between fuel stops. I have been riding the 1100 for 6 or so years, covering nearly 160000Ks.
Yes perfect for long distance, highway...
But not for everyday in city with heavy traffic unfortunately.
After being away from motorbikes for 25 years I just bought a 2004 pan european for £2600 . It has done just 38,900 miles. It does need some TLC, a bit of a clean, a bit of a service, but your video gives me the confidence you go out and enjoy it. Thank you.
I'm watching this in September 2020. I own a 2005 ST1300 in Australia, owned for 13 years, and finding it very difficult finding a replacement. The stationary weight is a lot, 300kg, but once mobile, it still brings a smile to my face everytime I am out on it. I do not want an Adventure Tourer as I am not interested in unsealed road riding. I want a road Tourer, an upright style bike. I do not like 'cruiser' style tourer. I agree that the 'aging' ST1300 is still a great bike.
This is undoubtedly the best ST review...and I've seen them all by now. Informative, interesting, completely comfortable extemporaneous conversation, as if you're just talking to your best friend. Kudos! Amsterdam is a lovely place and your riding is top notch. Great video.
Wow. What a great compliment! Thank you!
29 year old and not long ago i changed from a Yamaha tracer 900 2018 to a Honda st1300 2004 still happy with my purchase
That's what I'm talking about! 👍
56 year old here, funny, I traded my ST1300 and FZ-07 in for a 15 FJ-09.
Bought mine when they first came out in 2002. Great bike, kept it until 2012. Superb machine, it can tour with Gold Wings and play with sports bikes. Great on fuel and a massive fuel tank range. At 80 mph on a motorway the bike felt so competent and gave the rider a genuine feeling of confidence.
Wonderful Machine.
A much underrated bike.
If you want to see how they can handle look at the American police slow riders.
Yes. Your comment complements the video.
Congratulations, this is probably the best and honest review on a Pan-european st 1300 on youtube.
I'm in love with this bike since I first saw them, can't wait to put my hands on one, just waiting for better times.
Thanks for this video. Enjoy your st and keep biking, stay safe 🤙🤙
Thanks! 👍
I have an 04 ST and broke the 105,000 mile mark and am still ridding. I love the bike so much I just bought an 08 ST with only 13,000 miles on it so when mines finally ready to retire I have one in the stables all ready to go.
Yes, you only ride this kind of bike when you're older and realise that actually they're broadly better than everything else. Such a great review, thanks!
Tengo 47 y compre una ahora, la tenia que haber comprado antes
I got my st1300 2003 model when I was 63!and love it,now I'm retired can ride more time!
Thank you for such a great review. It seems that theres going to be a real gap with the absence of this from the Honda range and also the VFR800 is now effectively deleted. This means a whole generation of riders are going to assume that the adventure bike is the pinnacle of riding. This is a huge disservice to riding. They will be missing the pleasure of a big engined, long legged distance machine that leaves a smile on your face and you glutes operational after more than 200 miles. You nailed it on the reasons why: no one wants the potential reputational damage but that approach will deny a generation of riders one of the best riding experiences around.
I still own a 09 Pan which I got new. Every single thing you said is true. Even the negatives. The best bike I ever riden. I addore the thing and this review is so to the point! Great job!!!
Your analysis of this bike are intriguing, and making me think twice about jumping out of my love and respect for my GL 1500 and trying this one. Kudos from one wrench to another.
Go and have a try... 😉
I bought mine new in 2012 and love it. Last year I thought about downsizing and tried both a CB500X and a Moto Guzzi V85TT. I liked both but riding home from both tests convinced me that I would be better off keeping the Pan. I love it for long distance touring and it’s great on twisty roads and in the mountains. Great weather protection and economical as well. *****
what is your mpg or l/100km in your Pan?
@@mikkei3532 Approximately 40 mpg.
@@stephenlane7951 thx man. I just bought 2012 cbf1000fa. IT can handle easy 55-57mpg. On autobahn 70mph IT Burn 4.6l/100km
@@mikkei3532 Nice looking bike! I think the lighter weight of the 1000 definitely helps with average Mpg. Once the ST gets moving it gets pretty good fuel efficiency. 53 mpg at 55mph, 47 mpg at 65mph, and 44 mpg at 70 mph. I generally let mine warm up a good while before I take off and short sporty trips don't add up to good avg mpg unfortunately. Still better than the 15 mpg with the truck! :)
Thanks for the video. The police force here in New Zealand have ST1300 for their patrol bikes.
I'll be test riding one this weekend, so I decided to look up TH-cam for reviews.
Because of your experience with other motorcycles you actually give good insight. I enjoyed your video.
I bought a used 2010 ST13 in Nov '19. I've ridden around 5000km on it so far and loving it. Handles nimbly even at low speeds and maneuvering corners are a breeze. Love the smooth power delivery of the V4 engine and ride comfort is really good, even on long rides. My only complaint is the engine heat, especially in city traffic on hot days.
I did experience the infamous wobble while riding 2-up with fully loaded panniers and a 52 litre top box at speeds above 140km/h. I must say that I fully agree with your advise regarding this issue.
Thanks for the input!
Thanks for the video, I just picked up 2006 st1300 and I fall in love with it.
Great to hear that!
Nice review. Well done video. I bought a last year (03) ST1100 police bike for the same reasons you bought the 1300. Superb bikes, way underrated.
Bought an 07 ST1300 in NZ this year for $6k NZ. It had 104,000 kms on it. I've been a GS rider for 10 yrs, still have my 07 1200 (140,000 km). The ST is more bike than I am a rider. Haven't exceeded 5000 rpm on it. That's 120 kph at 4000 rpm. More than enough for me. Bar risers are a useful upgrade.
Great video! Really glad to see this. Very comprehensive and love the enthusiasm. I'm watching for the first time on Aug 28, 2020 and I just bought my 2010 ST (non ABS) about six weeks ago. My other bike is a 1993 CB750 Nighthawk. I really love riding the ST. It doesn't have a top case, but I'm planning to buy one and go moto-camping. A gear indicator would be nice, but if I glance at my speed and RPMs I can tell which gear I'm in already so it's not that important. I've had it up to 90 mph and felt no wobble. I'm in Louisville, Kentucky, which is a far cry from Amsterdam....visited there in 1988 and slept on a boat. What a great city.
Enjoyed the video, love the enthusiasm and an honest report. I got a 2016 brand new ST1300 PA zero miles from dealer this September. Great deal, rode 1400 miles home to NYC from Missouri. At first I was not sure how it would perform on NYC streets, I know now that it handles real well both on city streets and highways. Lovely motorcycle. Waiting for the rear seat (on back order) so I can enjoy the ride with pillion rider as well.
Wow that must be great buying this bike brand new... I am even sometimes looking at those really low miles second hand bikes who still look in tip top shape... But I think I will upgrade mine with suspension mods and such. Offcourse I will videoreport that here when I will do this.
Just bought a used 2005 st1300 with 30k miles in July...it's my 12th bike(been riding since the 80's) and it is the best bike that i have owned. Handling/power/brakes/comfort. Awesome!
@@jasonk6758 I'm jealous! Mis the bike every day...
Your video reminds me why I bought my 2003 st1300 in 2016 with 2600 miles. It now has 11500 miles. I don’t ride a lot. It’s an amazing machine. Will full tank of gas it requires a bit of concentration when pulling out of garage. A bit tippy..
You are right about the motor. The st 1300 has as flat of torque curve as you can find. It makes its 80-90 pounds near 2000 rpms. Flatter and lower than the Kawasaki 1400 .
And the low end power surprises me every time I ride it. The suspension is so so cushy. Easy on my back compared to my other bikes, over the bumpy pavement. The brakes are strong. And the windshield,, adjusts to fit any situation. Thank you
Got mine, new, in 2011. One of the best bikes. Recently added a gear indicator.
60 000km have only blown a front fork seal is all.
What type of gear indicator did you go with and was it easy to fit? Does it work ok?
@@davidallen1213 The brand was GFYSHIP for ST1300. I bought mine on a local auction site and it arrived in 5 days direct from CCP. It installed very easily and operates perfectly. Only where I positioned it I had to extend the wiring 30cm/1foot.
My mate bought his on Alliexpress, half the price and took a month to arrive. Just search Gear indicator + your model on Alliexpress.
For the most part you don’t need one but I find first and top very handy.
@@PanRider939 Many thanks!
@@davidallen1213 my total list of farkles. Heated grips, helibar riser, air horn stebel nautilus, gear indicator, power outlet in glove box, outer reflectors on side cases, phone ram mount. I love that the ST1300 is a blank canvas I can have fun with 😊
Great Review! I have a Dark Blue ST 1300 but looks Black at times. I'm coming from an F 850 GS into Honda ST 1300 2 years ago and wasn't doing backroads as much and wanted performance on the Hwy. The V4 is an extraordinary engine. I have a set of Two Brothers pipes that are spaced out for the bike and they turn the V4 on Big Time. No need for the gear indication, you know what gear you are in with these pipes. There are enough vids with ST 1300 on You tube. The vids don't really serve the bike justice with these pipes until you have them on and it turns the bike into another entity, V4 just has a real nice growl you know what gear you"re in by the sound. I have a GIVI top box which is way more rounded than your top box but only carry my Lap Top back pack in it while touring and strap down( Using ROK Straps an absolute must no Bungie's) a rain proof duffle bag that acts as a back rest. I have no issues at 160 to 180 Kms per hr.passing vehicles but experience the usual turbulence caused by dual trailer Trucks. I have a set of Hwy pegs that swing out from engine guards like switch blade which is great just to stretch out for a bit of Moto Yoga. The bike performers amazing in Mountain twisties, I rarely break and just listen to the Two Brothers pipes and run 3rd and 4th. But going up hill though massive passes in the Canadian Rockies, the bike is absolutely seamless it just loves the tug of going up the side of a Mountain. I don't listen to music while on my bike, but the V4 paired with these pipes gets you in The Zone always even at low speeds in the city in fact that's where you are going to get the tickets. Great Bike!
I have the same colour one. On the logbook, they put it down as green - I think it is a very dark blue, but it sometimes looks black in the sunshine.
I really enjoyed this and watched it from to start to finish. Explains everything. Thank you and subacribed
Great review. You chose the best tourer thats been made this last 20 or so years. Bought mine in 2015. Absolutely would not change it.
The over riding reason Honda stopped making this model is because they just could not make the engine Euro 4 emmisions compliant. The CTX 1300 was the veiled attempt at trying to achieve that by retuning the engine but it just wasn’t sufficient. See there is still a place in the market for bikes like this from Honda. Honda ceased production of both the ST and yhe CTX. Look what BMW have in their range, now where did they get their ideas for the K 1600 B & GT from I wonder?
if you are in the UK and challenge the emissions for ULEZ, any Pan after 2005 will get an exemption. Honda did well in seeing the future as far as they could. You are right about the CTX.
Great video. I also saw a Pan when I was about 16 and thought it looked brilliant. I got a Deville last year at 50 years old. First bike in 25 years. I am now thinking of a Pan. Holland is so nice too. Heading to Holland for our summer holiday this year, with the Honda. CRV that is. Maybe on a Pan next year.
This is a great video, thanks. I’m flying up country next week to pick up my new bike, a 2003 ST1300 and can’t wait for the 400 mile ride home!
I loved my first ST1300, a 2003 with 40K on the clock, for the way I could take off in the morning for a day ride and go from Shreveport to the Missouri/Arkansas border and back in an easy day. I kept it for six years ending with 185k. I traded it in for Peanuts and got a gorgeous red 2009 that had no miles on it in 2011. I kept it until 2016 and sold it with 85k. At 70, it was just too too heavy. It sat on the floor where I traded it in for three years for sale at $8k. A steal. Huge bags, big Givi top box. Honda’s fairing deflection kit that is remarkably good at quieting the air noise.
Lovely mile eaters that never needed valve adjustments, timing belts, new plugs, nothing. Always happy to go to the store or head to Washington DC for a weekend.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed watching it during a work out on the rowing machine. I was looking at this bike, along with the FJR1300 and a few other touring types. I ended up buying something I thought I never would: 2018 BMW R1200RT. Bought it off an older gentleman and I have no regrets. Some issues, but I would purchase BMW again (you are correct it’s the Apple affect - I own Apple watches, iPhones, tablets and the IMac lol). Your bike is very nice. Cheers
I currently don't own a Pan either 1100 or 1300 but I would love to get one, my reason for not getting one as yet is that I am only 171 cm tall (5.7") and only weigh 72kg (around 11 stone) and so I might struggle with the weight of the bike. I must try to get a test ride at some point. I want to say that this is a great review and I congratulate you on your English, you speak it very well indeed.
Thank you! I don't have the bike anymore, but when I used to, my wife rode it very often. Your dimensions and weight are almost equal to hers... Length is definitely no problem since the seat can be put to a very low point.
@@chiefpepdesign Thank you for the reply, you have encouraged me to get one now. Stay safe with whichever bike you ride now.
No vas a tener problemas
Very good review. I still have my ST1300 - i have done 63000 miles on it and it still rides like new. Considering my options for a replacement. They are also ULEZ (Ultra Low Emission Zone) compliant for London from roughly 2005 - so that saves £12.75 a day :-) You are right about the gear indicator - I don't think I have ever redlined the bike, never needed to. Great on motorways, great on twisties, it's fantastically well balanced and has huge amounts of storage for touring. Current Honda replacement options is poorly equipped so I have been looking at BMW and Triumph. Think for me the only real option is the Trophy 1200 SE. Will keep you posted.
Been riding Honda ST's since the late 1990s. I've owned/ridden C14s and FJRs and liked them. I just prefer the V4.
And not to mention the brakes are superior compared to the FJR!
Gisz
So much great, honest, and right to the point info in this video! Thank you!
I got my st1300 2003 when I was 64,and I love it!
Do you still ride it?
@@jamesreed5362 pretty much but local only for now,need to change rear tire,what do you suggest?michelin is still the best?Planning to have a long ride this summer,how about do you ride often?
Thinking of buying one.I’m 75 . Just a boy.we walk 7 kilometres every day. Still have bike Driver license. Live in Quebec.
I’ll rent a bike for the day to see how it goes
@@jamesreed5362 by all means james and enjoy.isn’t quebec is a french speaking province/city?do you speak french sir?
Great review .Heat is a major problem in N. Calif summer riding can be brutal at times. I fixed the high speed wobble with a fork brace . big differences in handling . But I love my bike.
Have you tried a header wrap and some type of heat adhesive shield ? Just wondering , I’m getting one and I live in Florida….
@@Crazygaucho62
hey Dan, did u get the st? Did u try some heat wrap, if so, how is it on those warm to hot days there? What things do you like or dislike, if any, things about it?
Kind Regards
This is a great review and overview of the ST1300. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, practical experience and the facts and figures too. I have been a sports biker for many years and only just thought about an ST. mainly because I moved and want to cover some big distances to visit friends and family, but also because, much as I love my classic Fireblade ('97), I want to be able to enjoy longer rides and tours without any back ache! Of course, I am keeping the 'blade as well, but picking up my ST('05) next week. Your great review and pointing out good and bad things has convinced me to buy it! Thank you again.
How did you find the Pan as a bike?
@@cjmarren86 great! Rides very well and carries A LOT of luggage! It can cover 300 miles without stopping to refuel and is very comfortable. Heated grips and that lovely screen mean I can bike theough most of the winter too! A little heavy for manouving on the drive, but I soon got the hang of it. I'd recommend one.
I've owned lots of bikes in 40+ years of riding and this one is checking all the boxes. I've sold my Goldwing and will sell my VFR800. For me the ST1300 is perfectly situated in the middle. Great one up. Great two up. Happy around town or on the Hwy. and fun in the twisties. Dead nuts reliable and durable with a 300+mile / 500+km range.
Great to have that confirmation!
Curious, what year GW did you sell? I'm in the same situation. I'm thinking of doing the same thing.
I just saw your great vid of the ST1300 you're right on it. It's the best honest assessment of the bike I couldn't agree with you more. I purchased a new 05 candy red in 05 I'm truly impressed with the V4 engine it's so smooth and like you stated it doesn't need a sixth gear. Currently I've 66K on her and she is running good no mechanical issues.
Must have been great to buy it completely new straight out of the showroom...!
Thanks for responding so quickly.
What kind of bar risers do you have?
@@brucebrentz476 I don't know... The standard everyone has I guess... They were on there when I bought the bike.
Very enlightening video, I think you have hit the nail on the head in that it does n't have to be the latest and greatest bike to satisfy what motorcyclists want, i.e. reliability, comfort, practicality, and good build quality - as you say the Japanese do it well!!!. I have recently found a 2006 ST1300P -A, ex-police bike with only 12,000klms on it, so I am going to join the club and buy it. As a motorcyclist for the last 55 years I love bikes and I think the "low" tech ST1300 is perfect, won't ask me too many questions. Love the V4, great grunt, and super smooth, and bullet proof it you take care of it. I have a daily commuter, Honda Integra DCT, great little bike and I will keep it for the daily commute but any longer journeys will see the ST1300 get to stretch it's legs. Thank you again and please keep the videos coming Chiefpep.
Gotta admit, I admired that brick street you were riding on in the beginning of the video. How beautiful!
Jemig man wat maak je het mij weer moeilijk , gekeken naar de fjr 300, de bmw 1200rt, de kawasaki gtr 1400, en dat jij hier zo van onder de indruk bent , ga toch ook ff kijken naar de Pan European ! echt een kanshebber voor mij . dank voor je eerlijke en overzichtelijke review !
Er komt nog een BMW RT review. Maar die opname moet ik nog maken... Is ook een heel moeilijke keuze. Laat de motorkarakteristiek de doorslag geven.
El v4 es mejor q el 2 cilindros de bmw ,pero es más moderna
It's aug.24. I can't watch your video without saying thanks. I'm looking for a st13. Good video mate
Coming off of an ST1100, I had to choose between the ST1300 and the GTR1400. New, the GTR was less expensive and offered more power and traction control so I bought it. Having a short inseam and short arms, I spent a considerable amount of time and money lowering the bike and raising the handlebars. I got it just about right, but lowering the bike reduced ground clearance. In the fall of 2019, I saw an ST1300 and was surprised at how affordable they had become so, after looking for a nice one with ABS, I bought a 2007 model. With the higher bars and adjustable saddle, it was nearly a perfect fit. It had been neglected a little bit, but has been restored. I took it on a 3000 mile trip last year. Aside from melting a bottle of prescription pills, the bike was nearly perfect. The digital display is usually difficult to read, but everything else is great. I do miss the power of the GTR, but I can always ride it since I own both. Great review!
Nice of you to share this info with us here! Indeed, the bike is nice and low which compensates for the fact that it's so heavy. Most of us can use our legs instead of our toes to tilt it when standing stil. My wife is much shorter than I am and can thus ride it too.
I have this bike , really can't tell it's shaft driven, (all my other previous 6 bikes where chain), The clutch is hydraulic, & when the fluid needs changing it will remind you by having the disengagement too close to the handle bar .It has a external bleeder that's easy to reach, making this a snap.The only time you feel the weight of this bike is pushing it around on the gravel driveway.It's got great handling from crawling, to as fast as you can go, (saddle bags & all).I find it hilarious when I see video's of checking valve clearance, (actually adjusting them is similar to the car systems ). They seldom need adjusting after the initial check.To check them ,loosen the plugs , & bump the engine ahead with the rear wheel in highest gear.Then simply point the cam lobe directly away from the valve.my first check they were all in spec., the next check will be literally years away! Dislikes? , the bars come surprisingly close to the tank at full lock, & the led readouts are not bright enough & or big enough in sun light.
I can't wait to get one soon, I used to have a Honda Transalp and loved it due to the comfort, but after riding a friends Pan 1300 I fell in love with it instantly.
The Transalp was my very, very first bike...
@@chiefpepdesign I regret selling it, I spent loads on it and in the end I sold it with 15000 miles on the clock it was mint.
It was a great breef about the bike... You have answered most of my question on my mind...Thank you so much...
Great review. I love the handling and speed and i think that is what sport bikes are all about. Its big enough to pound out the miles and handles amazing in the corners.
@@patrickroach7289 it handles better than a R 1200 RT
I'm a younger st1300 owner myself as well (35). I've always loved touring bikes and for the past 13 years and I'm so pleased with it. We have traveled so many amazing places and it's always run so well. The BMWs (RTs STs GTs RSs) are super nice but these things in my opinion are more reliable and just need less maintenence. I'm comfortable I can put another 100k on mine after just crossing over 100k MI.
Indeed!
I am another younger ST1300 owner as well (25). This bike really does it all.. Its fast, easy to commute on and while its been called a "baby Goldwing" before by other riders i think it looks great in black. Coming from a Moto Guzzi its just so refined and smooth, however there are definitely days where i wish it was a little lighter haha.
The best review ever. Everything said in simple words. TOP !!!
I have a 2007 Honda ST1300, Love it. Still riding it in 2021.
Lovely machine, pan European is a good name for this machine I think. I imagine it can munch the miles without any problems except how much riding the rider can take as the rider will need a break but the bike won't. That V4 as well is pretty unique and with the Honda quality will go on and on, and on etc etc. Great bike and very enjoyable ride by internet which as I cannot ride any more in the real world this is as near as I can get without riding pillion lol.
Bought one and I am amazed I hadn't checked it out earlier! I was looking for an FJR1300 and one ride on the ST1300 I was converted. This bike is Synergy at its finest, it is more than the sum of its parts!!!
Hi Aussie hope you well, I am in the same dilemma FJR 1300 or ST1300.I must be honest my heart is set on the FJR. Any advice would be appreciated.THNX
@@kidronreddy1671 FJR is definitely more sporty. The ST1300 feels like an old glove you can't bear to get rid of. It just feels right.
@@kidronreddy1671 An update, I have bought another ST1300, newer with lower km's and added farkles. The bike is better in every way.
it’s an amazing video. i was in a search to buy a new bike and found my answers. thank you from Turkey🤘
Great Video
Thank you😊👍🏻👍🏻
I found everything you said to be true, I would add that in the warm weather I have to keep the upper gas tank full then the tank stays cool running empty is much hotter
Great review thanks. I am on my second ST1300 and love it. I have a 2013 Goldwing for 2-up touring but the ST1300 is much nicer for solo trips. Agree with all you say Thanks again
Cual es más rápida de las dos? Tienen más o menos la misma potencia
The best infos about ST - THX! I had K1600GT and there was problems. Sold now and I will buy ST :)
Great video and agree with your comments on it. In fact you have made me reconsider my decision to buy a K1600GT which i am only thinking about because I've had my ST1300 off the road for past year fixing various items. After watching this I'm going to get off my lazy ass, finish up the ST and get it back on the road so I can ride it. Thanks chiefpep
Now that's a great comment to read! 👏👍
Chief - your views, and your analyses are very thoughtful and balanced. Good on you mate !
I have a st1100 now love it and always loved the recognizable design of it, also when I was a young guy , 41 now and will buy the st1300 in a while.
I do not smoke , do not drink beer ( well not every day) Men never grow old so that’s not a problem either.. I do not feel old and I surely do not have a big belly..friends of me DO ride racers, hyped naked bikes and “though” guy cruisers..
Well..I ride a V4, can take a shit load of stuff with me, can ride all day long and feel happy and dit when I step of the bike..yeah it is 29 years old has 142k km on it..always works and never any problem.
You got to love the ST line.
Top video ;)
So there you go.
Dank je wel voor deze video. Na veel jaren alleen auto gereden te hebben, ben ik begin dit jaar weer op de motor gestapt. Een ST1100 omdat ik hem zo mooi vond en vind. Het was even wennen, maar ik vind het een geweldige motorfiets. Ook heel praktisch. En als ik eens een keer jong(er) wil lijken, pak ik mijn VFR 750...
The Netherlands makes me SO HAPPY. Enjoyed this ride.
+1 to the greatness of this bike!!! I've had my first one in The Netherlands back in 2016, then got my second one 2008 model from the US in 2018 on
Love it 3 years now with my ST. Low maintenance
Great review sir.!!! I'm newly in love with touring bikes, and this Honda really seems to be a great option.
Thanks a lot for this vídeo. I am looking for a Touring bike like my next toy, i am a Honda fan and now you convenced me to buy one. Engine sound is awesome!!! Regards from Madrid
They are a awesome bike. Reliable, comfortable and a mile muncher. I had a 2000 ST1100 now a 2006 ST1300.
Onya Millsy👍
Just purchased a 2004 -69000kms. First road bike so far so good.
Do agree with all said. Maintenance wise they could of do a better job if to remove the rear axle you wouldn't have to unbolt the rear pipe. And make a head of the axle flat so you wouldn't need to hold it to tighten it, like other bikes do. Simple things yet Honda didn't think of it.
As for the gear indicator you can get aftermarket from GiPro and it works like a clockwork (except showing the gear if the clutch pulled in).
Great review!
Been all round the houses on all sorts of modern bikes but I’ve recently gone out and bought a lovely ST1100, for pretty much all the reasons you have. The riding experience is more honest on an older bike without all the tech ‘nanny-ing’ your riding.
I bought mine this easter. A 2008 with 25 000 original km on it. Love it!
Let's hope Honda is listening to... ;)
I owned a silver 2007 ST years ago. Considering all aspects of the motorcycles I’ve had, it’s the best one I’ve owned, period. Honda’s ability to design a heavy bike that feels so balanced and manageable is impressive. Effortless power to launch from a light or eat miles on the highway (mine loved to run at 85 MPH LOL). Height adjustable seat and windscreen to dial in your leg room and wind coverage. The frame does get hot on the right side in warm weather. I sold the ST to buy my dream Harley which is awesome (Dyna Wide Glide with an Evo engine), but I still think about that ST and miss it.
I know the feeling very well...
Hello from US, enjoyed your video talking about the ST1300. I need to get a cruise control on it and update the seat. I bought my 04 ST1300 2 years ago and love it. Fun and powerful. Some riding vids on my channel including dicing thru traffic out on the west coast aboard the ST. Stay safe, ride long and ride well!
Green Ryder, check out Aerostich for a Go cruise, cruise control 20.00 it does work. I' ve one on my 05 ST 1300
Totally agree with you,mine has to be the best bike I’ve every ridden,so rock solid
Great Bike - Honda is excelent compare to BMW crap with gearbox like in 50y old tractor.
You forgot Harley Davison to 50 years behind in technology
Excellent review. I have the 98 ST1100 in black and absolute great machine, so I can only imagine what the ST 1300 is like. I also have the 2006 Goldwing that is my comfort ride that has plenty of power that I need and handles fantastic for a big machine.
Nice combo!
top review...
heb helaas de mijne te snel weg gedaan ...
nu druk aan het sparen voor weer een St1300......mijn beste machine ooit.
I test drove one of these for the first time ever today, August, 2021. Very clean, quite a few accessories, like the special foot pegs that fold in, Russell day long seat, wider higher windscreen, trunk, new Michelin pilots, original owner, I wanted to love it. It was 85° today, I told the seller I would not be right back. I told him I would be gone for at least an hour. I hit it off onto some roads that I would not have to stop through mostly countryside. When I got 15 minutes away, I soaked the first hot blast of air coming off of the engine/radiator.. I moved my feet out onto the foldout foot pegs made just for the ST 1300. The air coming out of those ducts in the faring to disperse the heat was worse on the outside of the faring. I did not stay out for an hour, I took the machine back, I was only gone about 30 minutes.. I told the owner, how could you ride this thing when the temperature goes above 75°. That is a lot of heat. I’m sorry, I am not gonna put myself through that. Thanks for the test ride..
I have owned two Yamaha ventures, they were worn on hot days, but nothing like a Honda ST 1300, I owned a GL 1800 Goldwing, the heat was not a problem. I owned four moto guzzis, I could feel heat but only one stopped on those machines. And it was nothing as hot as what this ST was pouring out.I did have and 1980s Honda saber 700 with the CBX style faring and bags which was an option from Honda. That motorcycle also was a blast furnace to ride. I could feel the heat coming through my arrow stitch one piece suit on a 60° day one April after I bought that machine used. I put it up for sale right away. I heard that the concourse 1400 and the FJR are also rolling ovens on warm days, so is the ST 1300. I’m sorry, I could never own a machine that blastsme with that much heat..I always wear all the gear, motorcycle/street bike boots, Kevlar jeans or leather jeans, padded mesh jacket in hot weather, leather jacket with elbow and shoulder patting & spine pad, ICON deer skin super duty gloves(I have a pair of those gloves that I have been wearing commuting five and six days a week for over 20 years, they won’t wear it, and they won’t shrink or grow) and a full face helmet/modular, and swimmers wax earplugs. With all that gear on, I don’t need more heat on warm days. It would be tolerable on a below 65° day, it would be welcome on a below 55° day..
I recently retired and sold my three street bikes. My GL 1800 Goldwing, my Moto guzzi norge, my 1994 Honda Pacific coast which I commuted on for 24 years. And I bought myself a Kawasaki Z 400. 365 pounds, 45 hp, water cooled, fuel injected, 62 miles to the gallon for the first 1500 miles so far, starts instantly, I did 21 modifications,Preload for cabs, Suzuki GSXR 600 shock, hepco becker Solid aluminum rack that plugs into the passenger seat and removes with the key. On that I installed a givi 31 L trunk, I added swingarm spools, rocks 2 1/2 inch bar risers, real horns, Taller windscreen, foam grips, tank bag, tank protector, gel seat pad, foot pegs with rubber on top from a VFR800, everything about the intake, exhaust, and fuel injection system is totally stock. I learned decades ago that the factory knows more than I do so I leave things stock in those departments. I do not like that it has ABS brakes. I experienced ABS brakes on a downhill cinder back road all my BMW K 1200 LT. I am hit the brakes, and there weren’t any. The ABS computer detected wheel slippage and the brakes did nothing. I actually was dragging my feet as I ran into a cyclone fence at the bottom of that road to stop..I am not a rookie. I have over 700,000 street miles, I’ve won six road racing championships, I was two time national champion. I can stand my beta trials bike on the front wheel.. I see no justification for ABS brakes on a motorcycle. I wish they would stop coming up with cures for problems that don’t exist like traction control, stability control, and ABS. Those things are for idiots.. I commuted for over 40 years on motorcycles, and I got caught at work in snowstorms that I had to ride my motorcycles home. If I had ABS brakes and that happened, I would not be able to ride the bike home like I did.
Anyway, I wanted to love that Honda ST 1300 low mileage original owner nice condition bike I rode today. It’s just too hot
To bad to hear. There are a lot of mods to lead the heat another way so you won't or nearly feel it. But I guess you've allready made your choice. Good luck and ride safe!
Hello. Thank you very much for this video. I also have this bike and I will not summarize my feelings better then you did. Agree with every single word. Best video about ST1300.
Thank you so much.
i have mine 2001 st1100 , for 13 years and still perfect ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
I have recently discovered this segment and read everything about the ST1300, the FJR 1300, the BMW R1200RT, the Concourse 14, the Moto Guzzi Norge, and last but not least the Triumph Trophy SE.
My favorite is the Triumph Trophy. The used prices here in the US are very close to the price of a Honda ST now, but the Triumph has more power, electronic suspension, cruise control, heated grips and seats, extremely efficient engine and large tank with a range of over 300 miles/500km.
It also doesn't have the heat issues of the ST and the gauges look ten times better. Also no "Pan Weave" because the top case and panniers on the Trophy have flexible attachments that buffer any wind disturbances without transmitting them to the chassis.
It would be great if you could ride one and make a video.
Thanks for your comment. I am considering to do a series of touringbike reviews. I'll take the Triumph in consideration but will do the RT first I think...
No se si tiene tanta autonomía la triumph, lo del pan weave se soluciona con poner 3 kg de presión en las ruedas