The State of the Garlean Empire after Endwalker - FFXIV Lore Explored
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- Video Timestamps:
0:44 Garlean Homeland
2:30 Empires Provinces
4:56 The Imperial Legions
5:01 The 1st
6:42 The 2nd
7:00 The 3rd
8:42 The 4th
11:18 The 5th
11:38 The 6th
12:41 The 7th
13:47 The 8th
14:11 The 9th
14:22 The 10th
15:48 The 11th
16:46 The 12th
17:53 The 13th
18:03 The 14th
19:00 Conclusion and Theories
Endwalker was the final chapter of many stories that began with FFXIV 1.0, with the Garlean Empire story arc being one of the most important.
With the conclusion of 6.0, we that book on the Empire close, but the Empire itself and its remands are still an important part of the story and will likely be evolving into a new story all its own.
Explore with me the state of what was The Garlean Empire.
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As much as all the legions make for great material for remaining antagonists in the world, I'd appreciate it if at least one of them, was presented as allies from the get-go, to offer something a bit different.
My main theory in that regard for months is that whatever legion would end up being the defense force of the Capital would be our ally.
That legion ended up being the Third which was tempered, but in the end it was the remnants of both the First and Third that came to our aid during the Terminus attack.
@@WyrmLimion Pretty sure not this next expansion but the one/two after is most likely going to be a complete united Eorzea [and potentially even other shards] against some galactic threat and take place on different planets so it wouldn't be too surprising if Garlemald by the start of the next expansion is completely allied with everyone [most likely will tie up loose ends in the next few patches].
The expansions leading up to some endgame space scenario would be more wandering of Eorzea [most likely the next expansion with meracydia/new world] and the one after that will most likely be us going to a different shard and potentially saving the 13th as well as hinted during the void quests in shadowbringers.
I think Garlemald has had enough of a role so far and with the ark ended I have a feeling they will want to get away from more Garlean fighting
@@Cneq Ill take an army of Magitek Reapers to the stars anyday!
Love your theory!
@@Cneq I can't really expect that to come within a handful of years. I don't think it should either. The next few expansions can't and SHOULD NOT present anything as grand as The Final Days and the Endsinger; that needs another decade of setup so as not to feel hollow.
@@Cneq I see it as maybe some other star managed to hold off the Endsinger like Eitherys and now they want revenge and/or to make sure Eitherys can NEVER do that again. This way even when they realize the civilization that made Endsinger is long gone they still feel destroying Eitherys is something that needs to be done for the safety of all. So have an existential threat that is very much not evil, but frightened, partially justified and maybe even regretful.
You just know we'll be dealing with the aftermath of the fall of the Empire in the coming patches. Nations wronged by the Empire looking for reperation, possible Nerva and Titus returning to claim credit for saving the people of Garlemald. I just know we'll be dealing with a lot of angry people looking to make the Garleans suffer for their past misdeeds
And they rightfully deserve it
Don't forget the origins of the empire now. Outcasts that have been manipulated relentlessly by the ascians aren't exactly the face of evil to me...
@@LoaFi132 Or the fact that the other nations literally bullied them up to that frozen hellhole of a land they call home, and the moment they got their hands on allagan tech they came back to get revenge on those that harassed them for years. The Empire had every right to punish the nations that has pushed them to the brink and now it looks like it is coming full circle.
Bozja's ending made me think that what Lyon and Noah did was transfer Noah's consciousness into something like Save the Queen, a weapon made of auracite, until later notice when he would posess another body.
That Lyon turned Sicinius in makes me even more suspicious, with Sicinius having been part of the Resonant research, and likely the person who gave Misija Mikoto's Echo.
It's also worth noting that Sicinius invented what amounts to body snatching technology during the events of Bozja as seen with Dabog's story. So it is easy to imagine both your idea or Sicinius simply transferring Noah's memories into a new body.
Solid points indeed. I wish we got more coverage of these events, but its early days and we may see both of them yet!
I’ve only just found your videos but I’m honestly loving them. I really enjoy your theories too. Definitely subbed. I also love how you played the eerie Garlemald anthem for most of the video.
Thanks Ryan glad you enjoyed it!
I love that theme so much, if ever we get another Eorzean Symphony I want this to be performed :)
There is a bit more going in on the Garlean homeland post EW. Specifically, the mining guild has been shipping in ore to help with reconstruction efforts and the blacksmiths/armorsmiths have also sent many of their people to help and trade smithing techniques with the Garleans
Weren't Nerva or his father, Titus, referred to as a coward in previous expansions? I forget who would've said it though... It's been a while. But if so, I wouldn't be surprised if he ran and left his loyal men behind.
Edit: I believe I remember who called who weak, and it was Lyon calling Nerva a weak and cowardice man. However, Lyon is a man who finds thrill in battle and Nerva appears to be a tactical mind of sorts. Lyon would find men like him a coward because they're not eager to charge in like he is.
Also it might be possible that Nerva is much younger than we may be thinking. He could be younger than Zenos even, as Titus was remarked to have no suitable heir for the throne.
I want to meet Nerva, because I don't believe he was really commented on in Endwalker despite us fighting his men.
I hope Garlean Empire makes a successful turnaround just like Germany after WWII, there are many similiarities between both anyway.
Gaius, Nero and Cid definately need to return. Gaius is literally the only leader of experience the Garleans have that actually cares for his people. Cid could finally get to use his magitek knowledge as intended for his people and not to just make weapons.
@@Makorze Gaius's absence made me unhappy. I thought he's gonna be a major player, after all he got the new voice actor!
Gaius is a difficult one, his quest was brutal from him and is severely traumatized for the lose of his family
I like how each of the Legati are references to other Final Fantasy villains their Legions share numbers with, Gaius aside since he's representing XIV.
Gabranth is the odd one out, but Regula (General Leo), Valens (Hojo), Nael/Eula (Sephiroth), and Zenos (Vayne). Not sure about Quintus and Vergilia.
I think Zenos reminds me more of Sephiroth because of his long hair and his clothes and his backstory, remember Zenos is our main villain since stormblood and he wanted to fight with us until his or our death because he was so impressed by our power
@@FenjaFeywood Nael however is the crazy white haired one that brought down a "meteor".
@@FenjaFeywood Nael has a Latin theme, drops a meteor on Eorzea, and has a scene walking through fire in 1.0, much like Sephiroth.
Zenos is one of the sons of an empire, is involved in a power play for the imperial throne after killing his father, and fuses with a spirit named Venat in order to become a giant dragon, like Vayne.
@@TheAzulmagia true
@@TheAzulmagia I forgot about this xD
They could have spent half an expansion telling the story of trying to retake Garlemald alone, yeesh.
Maybe we will get half an expansion regarding the restoration of Garlemald :)
We're gonna be seeing a lot of turmoil not only between Garlemald and the rest of the world, but within itself as well. Knowing what we know now, we will most likely have to deal with the aftermath, reestablish their government in some way, and try to form treaties, but we know for a fact that there's gonna be a ton of opposition on both sides. On one hand, you could possibly see conflicts between the Eorzean Alliance as well as the people itself if treaties and reparations were to be involved. Those who are open to establishing relationship, but then those who wish to see Garlemald burn. On the other hand, you have those in Garlemald who don't wish to repeat the same mistakes as the Galvus family had done and establish a more open and democratic government where a senate or parliament would be established, but there will also be imperial loyalists who wish to reclaim the empire, using the opportunity to rebuild and stoke the flames of war. It's gonna be a very messy situation, messier than Ala Mhigo and a LOT messier than Ishgard and Dravania. At the forefront of this conflict, our new antagonist could possibly be someone who wants to reestablish Zenos's legacy and create chaos amongst all the turmoil or reclaim the empire as their own and usher in a new age of rule. Or they could possibly be someone who wishes to wipe Garlemald off the face of the planet, regardless if it means putting the lives of Ethyris at risk. Whatever the case may be, Garlemald still has to atone for its actions and reparations must be made amongst the rest of the world.
Either that or we will probably get a sidestory of Garlemald restoration projects, which would be possible. Honestly, I don't mind either being the case, part of me wants to be done with Garlemald and have them be a potential ally in future expansions, but I'm also interested to see how relations would develop.
Personally, I would love to see a Garlemald restoration ala "The Firmament".
It wasn't the Garlean race that was the problem, it was the government and the people inside it.
Further theory time: I think we'll soon see the XIth Legion in the upcoming Echoes of Vana'Diel content. So far, some of the Legions we have seen have all had details associated with the Final Fantasy game of the same number. The VIth was investigating Azys Lla, which contained the Warring Triad, deities from Final Fantasy VI. The VIIth oversaw Project Meteor and the Emerald, Ruby, and Diamond Weapons, all concepts from Final Fantasy VII. Therefore, if we're getting content from Vana'Diel, the world of Final Fantasy XI, logic would dictate that we stand a good chance of learning about the XIth Legion.
I really want to resolve the fate of the legions. I wishes the encyclopaedia would have done it but no dice.
I hope you are right and it would make for a heck of a tie in with FFXIV.
*Players thinking because lands have been liberated, and the leading nations seemingly united*
*Every historian laughing their butts off knowing what is probably coming next*
*nods*
I have seen my share of documentaries and noted the similarities.
And we have already seen recently in 6.4 that the fortunate have been living heir lavish life while the less fortunate starve and suffer.
Wouldn't be surprised at all if things were pear shaped in 7.0. But ofc I hope they dont.
@@WyrmLimion Agreed, Ishgard, probably explicitly because they've been living like that for so long "might" be an exception since they've at least been trying to turn things around in their effort to rebuild and set things right after being misled for centuries. But they might face their own ongoing struggles either way. But yeah, we'll see how things pan out. I'm curious about the time skip theory for the next expac. It would give a lot of this sort of thing time to cook and reach a point it breaks a period of relative "peace".
@@benjaminbierley2074 Exactly, it would be a great way to see the fruits of what they are trying to acheive.
We need a Garlemald Restoration questline.
An entire questline to help build the new City-State of Garlemald would be the dream.
Id love if it came to pass and I can honestly see it happening.
@@WyrmLimion " City-State of Garlemald " ? Don't think so. Garlemald was not and never will be a city-state. They basically have at least two territories with rightful claims. Magna Glacies and Locus Amoenus. Plus, some territories have lived under Garlean rule for more than two generations, it's pretty hard to consider having a distinct identity when you and you father only knew the Empire. It would not be surprising if some territories vote to stay with Garlemald.
I think the Garlean people are too proud to allow that, they would want to do it themselves. but I could see working on efforts in other nations relating to establishing trade with Garlemald to help their economy, and maybe limited activities in Garlemald proper.
@@x-liner2858 The new Garlean state will be larger than a city thats for sure.
@@zeehero7280 True, maybe helping smooth over trade negotiations with other parts of the world.
Perhaps we may get a custom delivery quest the involves disbanded legion members forming a new legion to help rebuild their home.
I was pogging the fuck out i thought i missed something in garlemald when i saw your onion knight lol Great video! earned a sub
Haha thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it.
I think the Garlean Empire will transform into the Garlean Republic and will be ruled by a senate. It will be interesting if Gaius will return as Garlemald’s general or consul. However, Gaius will likely stay in Ala Mhigo to atone for his sins.
Gaius is in Werlyt, not Ala Mhigo.
Garlemald? More like *Gonelemald.*
As a more serious side note: it was mentioned that The Darnus’s family rules Corvos, and from what we know of the Darnus family they are pretty crazy. I theorize that may be our Eureka/Bozja for Endwalker, should one exist, with the garlean contingent stationed in Corvos serving as the villian trying to awaken some Allagan thing on the island. My main reason is that Corvos was mentioned way too much during 6.0’s story for us to just never go there during the expantion at some point.
Galemald Reconstruction pls look forward to it lol
on a more serious note tho i suspect we'll have to deal with a loyalist group at some point but the majority of the garlean people are broken or scattered and likely have no intention to fight back they'll probably join their loved ones once the city is rebuilt and habitable again and i can see the populares being revived to serve as a diplomatic body that negotiates goods an services traded between Eorzea and Ilsabard and who knows Cid might even play a role in helping his people walk a better path when he's not busy trying to explore the galaxy xD
but yea i figure they'll bring a faction of garlean loyalists that want to plunge eorzea into war which we'll have to defeat or crush their leaders before we can finally say no more garlean shenanigans lol
plus their are still tempered ascians >.> so much for ending their saga why they didnt bring them into enwalker is anyone's guess at this point but they are still out there and at large an without any leadership to real their impulses in they are very dangerous if left to their own devices.
I've been speculating with a friend of mine about who the beast tribes will be. We're pretty confident that the Lopporits and Matanga will be two, and my speculation is that the Garleans will be the third in some form, and we'll be helping the citizens get back on their feet.
I thought maybe helping the garleans get back on their feet, may be something like Werlyt and the weapons, as we may have to deal with some of the unknown legions trying to retake the capital, or perhaps a new battleground for relics?
As someone who's character lost his family to the Garleans in Ala Mhigo. F them!
6.1 brought a bit more story with this. Check out the cumulative role quest
Very true, gave us many great insights and pieces to the puzzle!
I wont spoil anything yet, still to soon, but I really enjoyed the role quests :)
How about the garlean embassy thats still just chillin in kugane lol.
I know right, and that Festus guy outside with all his savage talk.
I'm sure he will find out once he realizes his next paycheck wont be arriving XD
@@WyrmLimion omg lol
that map is probably going to be built up like mor dona, idyllshire, etc from 6.1 and on.
Its been a running joke of Restoration of Ishgard 2.0 in Garlemald but I really hope this ends up being the case.
Building the new centre of whatever the Empire ends up becoming.
Didnt one of the legions depart for the "new worlds" ? I mean they can be scattered around, declaring their own mini empires
Anyway, I think Garleans will come to the way of having it hard to abandon their pride, but in that they will see the WoL not as a enemy but as a saviour and eventually start to revere us as Ishgardians do. That could create some interesting turmoil between us and Nerva and I pray they throw him in there finally xD Been hoping we see him this expac. And same goes to Gaius, its literally his time to shine.
I have a feeling that's gonna be a theme of of the rest of the expansion, the Garleans coming to terms with what is rather than what was.
Id bet dollars to donuts that one of the legions is in Meracydia rooting through lost Allagan ruins.
@@WyrmLimionI wonder if the remaining 5 are modeled after the FF games sharing their numbers.
If that's the case, 2nd is gone, possibly 13 as well. 5 and 9 are doing more traditional stuff, and the 8th Legion is off doing some truly weird shit.
@@LeonheartDelta That's an interesting way of thinking about it :)
I feel like we will see remnants of them one day in future. If one of those Legions was away from Garlemald at the time I could see mass desertions happen after the empire fell.
But whose to say one of them didn't survive and endure, even attempting re-establish the empire in another land.
Is there only 14 legions or do you think there are more that have not been fully addressed?
According to Lore there are 14.
But since the Empire is inspired by the romans I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a secret expeditionary legion on some faraway soil.
The romans formed new legions as more territory fell under their wings so its pretty plausible to thing we don't know everything about their legion structure.
The ones would would know for sure are the former legion commanders such as Gaius or Vergilia.
Because the regions are only numbered, it's easy to forget which is which. Realising that the VIIth went from being under Nael to being under Valens is just.. Yeesh. That legion is actually cursed
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Livia is one of the more unique characters of the FFXIV story.
Its confirmed that she died in Castrum Meridianum in battle against you and yours.
This is further highlighted in Heavensward when we discuss the topic with her sister Lucia, the sisters were not close so it never became an issue.
We had her death confirmed when we met Livia's soul in the Aetherial Sea, still fanatical and loyal to Gaius.
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you guys think we will get the choice to rebuild the city?
Many, myself included have speculated at the idea of something akin to the Doma Restoration, with the end result being a new city-state in 7.0 or even a followup expansion.
6.4 left us with some loose ends that were not explored further, such as the Garlean nobles living the high life still while the people of Tertium continued to suffer.
@@WyrmLimion i feel like a sub plot will be pulling a french revolution
@@Dragoboi1998 That would be interesting, though I hope it doesn't end with a guillotine...
I do feel that the old guard needs to go!
If someone had told me Endwalker would make me feel bad for people I'd been slicing through like butter for several years I wouldn't have believed them. And yet, here we are.
Here's what's probably going to happen post-DT:
-There are multiple war crimes trials were it's remnants of the Garlean Empire vs everyone they ever screwed with.
-They're are stripped of their military and magitek
-Garlean refugees scatter all over Eorzea, Ishgard, Ala Mhigo, etc. and become second-class citizens no matter where they go. And if they end up in the hands of any of the beast tribes it's GG for them.
Im really afraid how they will deal with the political stuff in Eorzea for me some of the things were not resolved in a good way and it was rushed for endwalker sake. Dalmasca and Bozja were dealt with a good hand even tho some of that had to be resolved in the notes but still was really good and I doubt we will deal with the Garlean empire provinces soon.
Ok Ok.
Here, Ill give you a resume:
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They’re gonna go live on the moon. It’s all good! 😃👍
TL;DR, shit's fucked, yo.
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Let the garleans freeze! If their children crave warmth, cast them into the desert that they might toil under thanalan's sun.
I wouldn't be surprised if this ended up become actual dialogue in the game.