I'm using the Line 6 HD500X, which I scored for an insanely good price, and I've got the Tonex plugged into its effects loop. This setup gives me pretty much every amp tone and all the effects I could ever need. It sounds incredible running through my power amp and into two 4x12 cabs in stereo. I love trying out new gear but this definitely does the trick.
@@ZacharyMoonshine ..so you use the tonex in the loop for all your amp models? I actually considerd using my Boss ME 80 multieffect pedal for effects and a tonex 1 for my guitar tones in front of it ( and basically have all boss effects)
@@teriakamoto I have an old solid state Peavey combo that i use as a power amp on one of the cabs and then the other cab is being powered by an old pa mixer. hahaha its all jankety as fuck and cheap shit but it works and sounds huge.
Maaaann!! This is hands down the best intro you’ve ever done!! I’m in the middle of a nasty bronchitis right now and I started coughing because I was really genuinely laughing 🤣 It made me think of those crazy Japanese ads with funky backgrounds, motion graphics and overhyped sellers loll Great job sir!
If you can’t get any modeller to work for you then it’s a user issue, not a product issue. They all sound stellar. I mean look at Micheal Amott, he’s still using a GSP1101 live through a Marshall amp power section! I’ve used the little Mooer 005 live and it works. I still use, and prefer amps live, but great to have options.
@@MattW4319 Yep, I used a small Marshall power amp with mine. IR to FOH, and the spillover on the effects is still better than some higher end modellers. Great units. I upgraded the firmware on mine to the non official uodate, which had a great 5150 amp sim. Really regret selling it.
This is a problem we didn’t have as kids with the gear available at the time. We had two sounds and two volumes: a muddy clean and a foul distortion played at “can’t hear over the drummer” or “mom yelling down the basement steps to turn it down” volume. 😂
I am using mainly the Helix lt, got the tone x pedal to improve the amp sounds. But I realized the amp sound are not really that much better. So now I am using the tone x for band practice and small gigs. The Helix lt at home with my tube amp in 4 cable method, and for bigger gigs. I also have a mooer preamp live, which sounds also great, but it is now more the backup for the tone x pedal.
Owned the FM3 two times now and am at my 2nd Quad Cortex. While I love the overall tones & effects in the Fractal and the flexibility, I had to settle on the Quad Cortex as it fits my needs better currently: playing in a 5-piece band & the QC allows me to run 2 guitars, bass and vocals all in the same unit. Easy to carry around & pretty rugged (if the Fortin Nameless and the NATAS land in the next update, I'll be even happier). At home, I usually just play NAM profiles of my gear on my PC & audio interface.
18:36 Your cat is a game changer very fluffy 10 out of 10. I use the synergy preamps with two notes opus and im very happy with what i got. I load GGD impulses and use the power amp simulation as well as the enhancer in the opus.
Loved that intro so much. I think there's a need for education on how to get the best out of these things given that they're supplying an end to end sound chain beyond just amps and pedals. The differences are there though. I've a rig based on AmpliTube and ToneX, the Quad Cortex and the Fender. The Fender and AmpliTube are the easiest to use by far but the Quad Cortex and AmpliTube have more power in them for handling gigs and recordings. The Fender has the best connectivity and I think an edge on built (no beer inlets as I call the vents on the Quad Cortex. For me, if @IK Multimedia put out a box with the connectivity and UI of a Fender and the full range of their studio stuff, ToneX and AmpliTube it would be the ultimate.
Honestly all of them sound good when put into a power amp and guitar cabinet 🗄️ I have several different FRFR options and none of them actually sound like an amp in the room they sound darn close... But when you actually have them next to each other it's just miles's part still!
I have the tone x and am still very happy with it. I agree that I probably won't need a nano cortex however what I love about the nano cortex is that it can capture on it's on.
I got an axe fx 3 about 6 months ago. Man the learning curve is steep but I can’t imagine ever needing anything else. It is truly crazy. However, option paralysis is high. I find myself doing more tweaking than playing. But hey, I love tweaking and making presets for my favorite bands. Is it that much better than the others? I don’t know. But I love it.
Yeah I’m either tweaking or watching TH-cam :( I’m quitting the tweaking part, as it’s affecting my health, but I do have all the fancy modelers and they are complicated. Downloading firmware and blah blah. What is getting me back into it, is the Mooer Prime P2. The software isn’t too bad, lots of Japanese and different apps, which to me make it super confusing. But, it has some really easy, simple presets already installed, and I just found their native app which you can tweak them etc. The Bluetooth connectivity kinda sucks but you only need that to back it up or mess with settings. Plus it runs on rechargeable power! So at night all I need is headphones. It’s about the size of an iPhone maybe smaller. Now I’m just learning how to connect it to my Seymour powerstage 200 and out to a real cab. So two small devices and an iPad is all I need!
When I'm recording, I typically use ML Sound Lab Mark V. I don't use presets, I dial in each time based on the song. Live, my son is using an old DigiTech RP1000 we bought at a pawn shop for $135. I've dialed in a number of tones to use live. Teen presets power Bank. One button and you have all the sounds you need for an entire gig in three or four presets. It sounds great too.
I would agree that objectively-speaking, it's a pretty level playing field these days - pick one you like and go with it. I'm using PolyChrome DSP plugins more recently myself, but also love the Fractal FM3 and may get one again at some point. I've tried the Fender Tone Master Pro and was pretty impressed with it, too!
I also watch tier list, A-B comparisons, deep dive reviews, etc.... I watch all of them so I can make an educated investment to see if it's worth it. There are times I hold off on buying something until I get more info on other products and 9 out of 10 times I'm glad I made the smart choice
Hey bro that song you played when you started with the Line6 stomp was the best song and solo I have ever heard that shit moved my soul and gave me goosebumps absolutely phenomenal such emotion and feel totally EPIC 🤟🏻I am blown away! I really dig the Fender Tone Master Pro.
I’ve had almost every modeling unit made for 12+ years now from Kemper, Helix floor, Quad, Axe, MX5, HX Stomp, GT1000 The ToneX, etc. sold ALL of them and got a BOSS ME-90 and 2 ToneX One pedals. Best move I ever made. Not 1 more second of my life will be wasted spending month menu diving and dialing in tones and needing a friggn PhD to even understand the stuff. Made 1000s of dollars back and spent $700 on the 3 new pieces. I’ll add the BOSS IR pedal at some point. Great video.
Do you go out into a guitar amp or straight into front of house? The only thing that bother me about the ME-90 is the weird IR that you can't get round on the guitar output (where you have to specify Tube Amp, katana, 4x12, 1x12 etc).
@@DavidSmith1307 I go front of house and powered monitor(s) I’ve never used in front of amp but I have heard the Amp Sim thing where it may not be turning off when you switch the back button to guitar instead of line. But I’ve heard from others that if you actually leave the switch on line, and go to front of amp it actually sounds normal. Which is the exact opposite of how it’s supposed to be. But I’ve heard a couple people say that it works in front of an amp that way. I have some amps and I plugged the entire unit into FX loop and it was mint. Funny that I never even tried it in front. I’ve also use it with my Boss Katana Artist combo and it was mint. I just like to use most of these devices thru an FrFr powered speaker. My Kemper and Quad Cortex I ran both thru cabinets, and also thru FrFr sometimes. But the ME-90 I mostly run thru FrFr speakers.
@@thunderfootpower The TineX One is an absolutely AMAZING pedal, butI stopped doing that, looking for sounds thing. I use a clean preamp selection and the build it up how I like. An OD or Distortion on it. Or OD and Drive and distortion. Or I use the Fender amp preamp and build that. But I decided long ago I’m not going thru all of this chaos anymore. I need 4 sounds, which is plenty for anything. 1st channel is A killer clean with verb. 2nd channel a clean with Verb, Delay, Chorus. 3rd channel that’s hard rock with FX that are pretty laid back for fullness. And a 4th channel with an Arena type lead that’s pretty heavy on Delay, Verb, Chorus & whatever else I find. I use the FREEZE option a lot with the foot pedal. I use the DROP tuning a lot no more than a full step down, ( mostly just a half step down. ) I don’t even usually use any of the IR’s from Tone Studio, I’m getting the BOSS IR pedal for that. But realistically I’m down with menu diving and spending anytime on an app to play guitar ever again. When I use 1 of my amps I NEVER did that, and always sounded great. So basically my tones are. A great Fender amp like a Twin Reverb. My 2nd channel is basically like a Roland JC120 3rd channel is basically a Soldano 100 or Friedman BE-100. 4th channel is again 1 of those but with plenty of effects. I set the BOSS ME-90 up that way about 6 months ago and haven’t touched it sense. It’s great and the songs I write have everything they need with that setup. I do also use 2 ToneX One pedal but I recently unplugged them to use in a different way. But the ToneX One pedal with the ME-90 takes everything to a COMPLETELY different level. And I set all the amp and IR tones up on those in under 15. But to be honest, I still believe the BOSS Katana Artist combo is the best amp ever made. The MK2, not MK1. MK1 still sounds freakn perfect but, the way the effects share the same knob pissed me off. And the Contour control on the MK2 is amazing. Haven’t tried the MK3 version yet and probably won’t. If you REALLY want the best thing for the money, the Artist can’t be beaten by anything and the Waza speaker is probably the greatest speaker ever made. I see the MK2 all the time for $400 or a little less and it smokes EVERYTHING I’ve ever used. Get the MK2 Artist combo and the Boss GAFC-EX switcher pedal and you’re absolutely unstoppable. It’s the most amazing amp ever. I totally disliked the regular Katanas and got rid of them soon after I got them. But the Artist combo is the single greatest piece of gear I’ve ever used. And I use it more than any other stuff I have. But the ME-90 is absolutely insanely cool.
Guitar players today have it so easy. We never worried about tone when I was young. We just played with what we could afford and made it sound as good as we could. But guitarists today want to copy other peoples sound and not make due with what they have.
19 years ago I toned chased so I built my own modeler. But I didn’t think it would ever be a success so I just threw it away :/ RadioShack even gave me all the parts for free because they thought it was a good idea. Maybe it was?
I started with a PodGo and I was amazed how good it sounded. Now I’m on a QC and it’s pretty sick. It’s got more horse power and I can run other band members through it but there’s not anything I’ve found that blows away stuff on the PodGo with custom IRs.
One of the big things people tend to gloss over is support-not just in warranty but also firmware/software. Sometimes bugs can still be found within the code and they have to be fixed. Most of these things are so expensive and you don’t want to be left hanging due to a technical issue.
Sold my Helix a little over a year ago as I decided to go amps again... my back hates me for that decision so I have been trying to decide which one to buy. Leaning towards the TMP at this point but still can't decide... very valid points. Personally I just want easy with a decent sound, spent way too much time over the years tweaking the Helix.
@@TONEWARSgearshow quite a bit, I play everything from Metal to P&W but the P&W seems to be 90% effects...I'm happy with an OD, Reverb and maybe a delay going straight into amp and have for most of my 40 years of playing. However doing the P&W stuff when asked over the past 10 years it's very heavy on the effects.
Ive been playing this game for 39 years and long ago there was a lot of suck and great was expensive! Today, I have a couple tube amps. 1 is a JOYO and setup the right way with my TONEX, I can literally get it to sound like the songs playing off the records. I also do not just use the TONEX, its incorporated into my pedal chain and running to the effects loops return so I get any amp I really want. With a pre amp pedal I can cheat and attenuator when I am running this same setup into the return of my 100 watt Marshall DSL and out of the Marshall 2X12 cab with my own speakers I chose. Pair that with an IR cab, and a EQ pedal in the chain, and the sky is the limit.
Most modelers can achieve great, usable tones. I think people should pay attention to the interface, ease of use, size, screen size, etc. Great intro today!
I've had a few different ones. Helix . Headrush. Hotone. Boss . But I don't do captures yet, but for me I went back to the headrush but bought the prime I'm old and it's just easy for me to program or navigate it . And when the people who have heard it usually they tell me oh u nailed that tone like VH . Rhoads . Zeppelin whatever . It's just easier for me . Who knows maybe I'll try to capture my helios eclipse . Anyway just my 2cents .
I have an evh 100 watt el34 and love it more than anything on earth but am considering getting something digital for a stereo setup or for gigs where i don't want to bring a whole setup with me. I'm torn between an fm9 or axefx3 or the quad cortex because i own 3 x plugins compatible with the cortex now. Any suggestions? I love my evh for the duality of the demonic red channel and the angelic green channel. Never really use the blue channel because I prefer the red.
Pretty much just nailed what i been telling everyone who ask me about all these units....btw i absolutely 💯 loved the tone you got out of Stomp...i need to try your IRs i simpky been using HX into a real cab....btw id pay real money to see your next review eith your Hogan impersonation going on 😂 you nailed it 🤣👍🏻 lmao 😂
I thing nothing can beat Tonex One with software update (effects). As you said, everything sounds the same, but this pedal is 180$ vs QC vhich is 2,5k$, so more than ten times for the same JCM 800, Soldano, 5150 or Mesa sound, for us, metalheads. Choice is obvious.
Listening with my eyes closed, every example sounded great...some slight differences, but if one didn't know you were using different modelers, you would just think it was what and how you were playing. Excellent guitar work...
The new game changer on the block is the neural nano or whatever it's called lol it does kind of intrigue me because of the spacing between the 2 footswitches-its the little things lol
I started playing in the early 80s, messed with all kinds of stuff over the years, and I use that perspective to remind myself what an embarrasment of riches even the cheapest modellers are these days. Im like "oh hey Ill put a TS-808 in front of a Mark II-c, with a Fane loaded HiWatt cabinet, maybe a vintage Fender dedicated reverb with 4 foot springs, maybe an FX-65 cause its my favorite chorus ever, maybe an MXR 10-band, and why not a dyna-comp for solos? And it actually sounds like a Mrak with all that good stuff. And thats on a modeller that cost 150. Great Intro btw \m/
@underthethrone668 thank you so much. Yeah, my cat is a total weirdo. He just got a lion cut at the groomers the other day, and he looks like a little baby lion. He's a little dork and I love him.
If you ain't using a Fractal you ain't... I'm using... Helix floor or HX-Effects + tube amps or Catalyst 100 I have some inexpensive modelers (e.g., Mooer Prime S1), sound good too. Cheers!
It was starting to get pretty sore towards the end of all of the takes lol. I think I spent about 25 minutes doing all the takes. That was a rough shoot but a fun shoot at the same time
@@TONEWARSgearshow in Troy area here. I have a lot of music and hockey friends in the Waterford area. I been shopping at Motor City Guitar since I was a teenager. Best guitar store in the Midwest. Marty is an awesome dude.
shit, im rockin a positive grid bias head from 2018 that I picked up for $250 and I run it through my prs mt15s power amp into a mesa 1x12 rectifier cabinet and it sounds fucking great. ya aint gotta spend a zillion $$$ on a modeler to get good sound, dont get brainwashed lol. think i got $1100 or so into all of it. got the prs modded and everything. I mainly play at home and record with it and practice but you could run a bigger cabinet or direct to house straight from the bias head, i just like the prs power amp as it sounds a lil warmer to me especially with cleans but live nobody will notice shit.
The plain and simple truth is that every one of these modern high end modelers are capable of incredible tones. Any claim that any one of them "sounds bad" is plain and simple ignorance. Sure some will have a preference for certain workflows or features but if the ultimate goal is professional quality tones that would suit any recording or live use then every platform featured in this video would achieve that with ease. The flip side of that, which people often forget is all these pedals are equally as capable of sounding terrible if dialed in badly. It ultimately comes down to learning that pedal's workflow and having a bit of knowledge how to dial in the tone you want. After that you can't go too far wrong with any of these pedals.
I feel officially addressed and offended by the intro. 😀 Just joking, you are bang on the money. Of course, we content creators sometimes have to try to lure the audience into our videos, and for that, you have to be at least a bit hyperbolic, unfortunately. But yeah, we talked about all of that already, it is, what it is! But good to have that constant reminder, so folks: USE THE GEAR YOU HAVE! 🙂
that intro was so unneceserally long.. loved it 🤣
Now that’s an intro. I’ll never forget.
I swear his thoughts are almost exactly like a bunch of ours ....lol 😂 I love how he puts a hilarious spin on it
I'm using the Line 6 HD500X, which I scored for an insanely good price, and I've got the Tonex plugged into its effects loop. This setup gives me pretty much every amp tone and all the effects I could ever need. It sounds incredible running through my power amp and into two 4x12 cabs in stereo. I love trying out new gear but this definitely does the trick.
@@ZacharyMoonshine ..so you use the tonex in the loop for all your amp models? I actually considerd using my Boss ME 80 multieffect pedal for effects and a tonex 1 for my guitar tones in front of it ( and basically have all boss effects)
Works for me. What Power Amp you run ???
@@teriakamoto I have an old solid state Peavey combo that i use as a power amp on one of the cabs and then the other cab is being powered by an old pa mixer. hahaha its all jankety as fuck and cheap shit but it works and sounds huge.
The only intros on TH-cam that I don’t skip past
Maaaann!! This is hands down the best intro you’ve ever done!! I’m in the middle of a nasty bronchitis right now and I started coughing because I was really genuinely laughing 🤣 It made me think of those crazy Japanese ads with funky backgrounds, motion graphics and overhyped sellers loll Great job sir!
@@bengirard1984 thank you so much. I hope you feel better soon
@@TONEWARSgearshow Thanks! :) Me too brother, me too!!
If you can’t get any modeller to work for you then it’s a user issue, not a product issue. They all sound stellar. I mean look at Micheal Amott, he’s still using a GSP1101 live through a Marshall amp power section!
I’ve used the little Mooer 005 live and it works. I still use, and prefer amps live, but great to have options.
I used the gsp1101 for years. There's a local band where the kid is using a digitech 500 version of that and it sounds great.
@@MattW4319 Yep, I used a small Marshall power amp with mine. IR to FOH, and the spillover on the effects is still better than some higher end modellers. Great units. I upgraded the firmware on mine to the non official uodate, which had a great 5150 amp sim. Really regret selling it.
I have to say, you had some truly killer riffs with that Fender modler. All were good of course , but some of those were REALLY good. Great video sir
This is a problem we didn’t have as kids with the gear available at the time. We had two sounds and two volumes: a muddy clean and a foul distortion played at “can’t hear over the drummer” or “mom yelling down the basement steps to turn it down” volume. 😂
switch to kemper stage 5 yrs ago still happy with it !!!
Same!
I am using mainly the Helix lt, got the tone x pedal to improve the amp sounds. But I realized the amp sound are not really that much better. So now I am using the tone x for band practice and small gigs. The Helix lt at home with my tube amp in 4 cable method, and for bigger gigs. I also have a mooer preamp live, which sounds also great, but it is now more the backup for the tone x pedal.
I’m glad I got the fender tone master pro, it works great in a mix and has a variety of sounds and easy to use. Should be good to go forever ;)
Owned the FM3 two times now and am at my 2nd Quad Cortex.
While I love the overall tones & effects in the Fractal and the flexibility, I had to settle on the Quad Cortex as it fits my needs better currently: playing in a 5-piece band & the QC allows me to run 2 guitars, bass and vocals all in the same unit.
Easy to carry around & pretty rugged (if the Fortin Nameless and the NATAS land in the next update, I'll be even happier).
At home, I usually just play NAM profiles of my gear on my PC & audio interface.
KILLER intro!!! The best I have seen anywhere for anything. So true.
now THAT is how you do an intro. have my sub.
@@leftofzeroofficial thank you very much!
18:36 Your cat is a game changer very fluffy 10 out of 10.
I use the synergy preamps with two notes opus and im very happy with what i got. I load GGD impulses and use the power amp simulation as well as the enhancer in the opus.
Loved that intro so much. I think there's a need for education on how to get the best out of these things given that they're supplying an end to end sound chain beyond just amps and pedals. The differences are there though. I've a rig based on AmpliTube and ToneX, the Quad Cortex and the Fender. The Fender and AmpliTube are the easiest to use by far but the Quad Cortex and AmpliTube have more power in them for handling gigs and recordings. The Fender has the best connectivity and I think an edge on built (no beer inlets as I call the vents on the Quad Cortex. For me, if @IK Multimedia put out a box with the connectivity and UI of a Fender and the full range of their studio stuff, ToneX and AmpliTube it would be the ultimate.
goes to show that tone is in the hands and fingers and not too much on gear, great intro, awesome tones no matter what modeler used, good job!!!!
@@rudycapistrano4538 thank you!!!
Honestly all of them sound good when put into a power amp and guitar cabinet 🗄️ I have several different FRFR options and none of them actually sound like an amp in the room they sound darn close... But when you actually have them next to each other it's just miles's part still!
You sound fantastic. I love your ideas. I was mesmerized listening to your playing. I forgot all about the effects pedals.
@@jond.2868 thank you so much. I really appreciate that. You made my day
I have the tone x and am still very happy with it. I agree that I probably won't need a nano cortex however what I love about the nano cortex is that it can capture on it's on.
I got an axe fx 3 about 6 months ago. Man the learning curve is steep but I can’t imagine ever needing anything else. It is truly crazy. However, option paralysis is high. I find myself doing more tweaking than playing. But hey, I love tweaking and making presets for my favorite bands. Is it that much better than the others? I don’t know. But I love it.
Yeah I’m either tweaking or watching TH-cam :( I’m quitting the tweaking part, as it’s affecting my health, but I do have all the fancy modelers and they are complicated. Downloading firmware and blah blah. What is getting me back into it, is the Mooer Prime P2. The software isn’t too bad, lots of Japanese and different apps, which to me make it super confusing. But, it has some really easy, simple presets already installed, and I just found their native app which you can tweak them etc. The Bluetooth connectivity kinda sucks but you only need that to back it up or mess with settings. Plus it runs on rechargeable power! So at night all I need is headphones. It’s about the size of an iPhone maybe smaller. Now I’m just learning how to connect it to my Seymour powerstage 200 and out to a real cab. So two small devices and an iPad is all I need!
When I'm recording, I typically use ML Sound Lab Mark V. I don't use presets, I dial in each time based on the song. Live, my son is using an old DigiTech RP1000 we bought at a pawn shop for $135. I've dialed in a number of tones to use live. Teen presets power Bank. One button and you have all the sounds you need for an entire gig in three or four presets. It sounds great too.
I would agree that objectively-speaking, it's a pretty level playing field these days - pick one you like and go with it. I'm using PolyChrome DSP plugins more recently myself, but also love the Fractal FM3 and may get one again at some point. I've tried the Fender Tone Master Pro and was pretty impressed with it, too!
Very true statement. I love my tube amps and I love modelers but I love air being pushed by my big tube amps
dude your hulk hogan made me spit out my coffee... thanks for the laugh
@@tjmagnafie haha I owe you a coffee 😅
You made me spit out my latte (lol).
Dude, ill buy you a coffee when I'm down your way.
Im in Flint.
@@TONEWARSgearshow well when ya ever get to Florida ill take ya up on it
Mate, how true. Best video I've seen on this. Thank you for your honesty. I'll get back to actually practicing guitar again. 😁
I also watch tier list, A-B comparisons, deep dive reviews, etc.... I watch all of them so I can make an educated investment to see if it's worth it. There are times I hold off on buying something until I get more info on other products and 9 out of 10 times I'm glad I made the smart choice
As a bass player. I got an Ampero Hotone and have no need nor intention to move from it. Affordable, small and freaking awesome!
Hey bro that song you played when you started with the Line6 stomp was the best song and solo I have ever heard that shit moved my soul and gave me goosebumps absolutely phenomenal such emotion and feel totally EPIC 🤟🏻I am blown away! I really dig the Fender Tone Master Pro.
@@MKRISING75 thank you so much! You totally made my day
I’ve had almost every modeling unit made for 12+ years now from Kemper, Helix floor, Quad, Axe, MX5, HX Stomp, GT1000 The ToneX, etc. sold ALL of them and got a BOSS ME-90 and 2 ToneX One pedals. Best move I ever made. Not 1 more second of my life will be wasted spending month menu diving and dialing in tones and needing a friggn PhD to even understand the stuff. Made 1000s of dollars back and spent $700 on the 3 new pieces. I’ll add the BOSS IR pedal at some point. Great video.
Do you go out into a guitar amp or straight into front of house? The only thing that bother me about the ME-90 is the weird IR that you can't get round on the guitar output (where you have to specify Tube Amp, katana, 4x12, 1x12 etc).
@@DavidSmith1307 I go front of house and powered monitor(s) I’ve never used in front of amp but I have heard the Amp Sim thing where it may not be turning off when you switch the back button to guitar instead of line. But I’ve heard from others that if you actually leave the switch on line, and go to front of amp it actually sounds normal. Which is the exact opposite of how it’s supposed to be. But I’ve heard a couple people say that it works in front of an amp that way.
I have some amps and I plugged the entire unit into FX loop and it was mint. Funny that I never even tried it in front. I’ve also use it with my Boss Katana Artist combo and it was mint.
I just like to use most of these devices thru an FrFr powered speaker. My Kemper and Quad Cortex I ran both thru cabinets, and also thru FrFr sometimes. But the ME-90 I mostly run thru FrFr speakers.
@@thunderfootpower The TineX One is an absolutely AMAZING pedal, butI stopped doing that, looking for sounds thing. I use a clean preamp selection and the build it up how I like. An OD or Distortion on it. Or OD and Drive and distortion. Or I use the Fender amp preamp and build that. But I decided long ago I’m not going thru all of this chaos anymore. I need 4 sounds, which is plenty for anything. 1st channel is A killer clean with verb. 2nd channel a clean with Verb, Delay, Chorus. 3rd channel that’s hard rock with FX that are pretty laid back for fullness. And a 4th channel with an Arena type lead that’s pretty heavy on Delay, Verb, Chorus & whatever else I find. I use the FREEZE option a lot with the foot pedal. I use the DROP tuning a lot no more than a full step down, ( mostly just a half step down. ) I don’t even usually use any of the IR’s from Tone Studio, I’m getting the BOSS IR pedal for that. But realistically I’m down with menu diving and spending anytime on an app to play guitar ever again. When I use 1 of my amps I NEVER did that, and always sounded great. So basically my tones are. A great Fender amp like a Twin Reverb. My 2nd channel is basically like a Roland JC120 3rd channel is basically a Soldano 100 or Friedman BE-100. 4th channel is again 1 of those but with plenty of effects. I set the BOSS ME-90 up that way about 6 months ago and haven’t touched it sense. It’s great and the songs I write have everything they need with that setup. I do also use 2 ToneX One pedal but I recently unplugged them to use in a different way. But the ToneX One pedal with the ME-90 takes everything to a COMPLETELY different level. And I set all the amp and IR tones up on those in under 15. But to be honest, I still believe the BOSS Katana Artist combo is the best amp ever made. The MK2, not MK1. MK1 still sounds freakn perfect but, the way the effects share the same knob pissed me off. And the Contour control on the MK2 is amazing. Haven’t tried the MK3 version yet and probably won’t. If you REALLY want the best thing for the money, the Artist can’t be beaten by anything and the Waza speaker is probably the greatest speaker ever made. I see the MK2 all the time for $400 or a little less and it smokes EVERYTHING I’ve ever used. Get the MK2 Artist combo and the Boss GAFC-EX switcher pedal and you’re absolutely unstoppable. It’s the most amazing amp ever. I totally disliked the regular Katanas and got rid of them soon after I got them. But the Artist combo is the single greatest piece of gear I’ve ever used. And I use it more than any other stuff I have. But the ME-90 is absolutely insanely cool.
Tonally how do all the modelers compare to each other? About the same? I play Kemper, I’ve been happy with it
@@BeautifulGuitars365 they’re getting better and better. And cheaper and cheaper. The Kempers are pretty outdated at this point tbh.
Guitar players today have it so easy. We never worried about tone when I was young. We just played with what we could afford and made it sound as good as we could. But guitarists today want to copy other peoples sound and not make due with what they have.
19 years ago I toned chased so I built my own modeler. But I didn’t think it would ever be a success so I just threw it away :/ RadioShack even gave me all the parts for free because they thought it was a good idea. Maybe it was?
I started with a PodGo and I was amazed how good it sounded. Now I’m on a QC and it’s pretty sick. It’s got more horse power and I can run other band members through it but there’s not anything I’ve found that blows away stuff on the PodGo with custom IRs.
One of the big things people tend to gloss over is support-not just in warranty but also firmware/software. Sometimes bugs can still be found within the code and they have to be fixed. Most of these things are so expensive and you don’t want to be left hanging due to a technical issue.
Sold my Helix a little over a year ago as I decided to go amps again... my back hates me for that decision so I have been trying to decide which one to buy. Leaning towards the TMP at this point but still can't decide... very valid points. Personally I just want easy with a decent sound, spent way too much time over the years tweaking the Helix.
Thanks for commenting. How many effects do you need?
@@TONEWARSgearshow quite a bit, I play everything from Metal to P&W but the P&W seems to be 90% effects...I'm happy with an OD, Reverb and maybe a delay going straight into amp and have for most of my 40 years of playing. However doing the P&W stuff when asked over the past 10 years it's very heavy on the effects.
Great message to this video! Awesome playing man
@curtainbummings9381 thank you!
Ive been playing this game for 39 years and long ago there was a lot of suck and great was expensive! Today, I have a couple tube amps. 1 is a JOYO and setup the right way with my TONEX, I can literally get it to sound like the songs playing off the records. I also do not just use the TONEX, its incorporated into my pedal chain and running to the effects loops return so I get any amp I really want. With a pre amp pedal I can cheat and attenuator when I am running this same setup into the return of my 100 watt Marshall DSL and out of the Marshall 2X12 cab with my own speakers I chose. Pair that with an IR cab, and a EQ pedal in the chain, and the sky is the limit.
Here, here! Let's decimate all dominating decimators!!!
Great video. I got a good kick out of it. I wish you would grab the Bogner Uberschall Ultra and demo it for us!!!
Thank you. I'm hoping someone will send it to me
10:20 Justice done to that modeler, like that reverse pick chromatic at 10:47 too.
Most modelers can achieve great, usable tones. I think people should pay attention to the interface, ease of use, size, screen size, etc. Great intro today!
Love the intro, man!
Best intro I’ve ever seen , Cheers BC
Oh damn, i thought that was your real voice and subbed right away
So pumped from the hype
The person is the game changer. EVH, Hendrix, Vai, etc, etc
I've had a few different ones. Helix . Headrush. Hotone. Boss . But I don't do captures yet, but for me I went back to the headrush but bought the prime I'm old and it's just easy for me to program or navigate it . And when the people who have heard it usually they tell me oh u nailed that tone like VH . Rhoads . Zeppelin whatever . It's just easier for me . Who knows maybe I'll try to capture my helios eclipse . Anyway just my 2cents .
I have an evh 100 watt el34 and love it more than anything on earth but am considering getting something digital for a stereo setup or for gigs where i don't want to bring a whole setup with me. I'm torn between an fm9 or axefx3 or the quad cortex because i own 3 x plugins compatible with the cortex now. Any suggestions? I love my evh for the duality of the demonic red channel and the angelic green channel. Never really use the blue channel because I prefer the red.
"only to kill it all again" 🔥🔥 🤣
Haha that was a fun video to do
What is your left pedal? Camera switch? Backing track controller? Just curious.
@@FountainJL it's a camera switching pedal that I run through my stream deck
Pretty much just nailed what i been telling everyone who ask me about all these units....btw i absolutely 💯 loved the tone you got out of Stomp...i need to try your IRs i simpky been using HX into a real cab....btw id pay real money to see your next review eith your Hogan impersonation going on 😂 you nailed it 🤣👍🏻 lmao 😂
I thing nothing can beat Tonex One with software update (effects). As you said, everything sounds the same, but this pedal is 180$ vs QC vhich is 2,5k$, so more than ten times for the same JCM 800, Soldano, 5150 or Mesa sound, for us, metalheads. Choice is obvious.
Listening with my eyes closed, every example sounded great...some slight differences, but if one didn't know you were using different modelers, you would just think it was what and how you were playing. Excellent guitar work...
I already put everything into my quad cortex. I already own that due to the hype. Im all in due to that. I don't have enough money to change that now.
We're hitting that Plateu!
The new game changer on the block is the neural nano or whatever it's called lol it does kind of intrigue me because of the spacing between the 2 footswitches-its the little things lol
I would honestly have to agree with you on that. I'm getting ready to do another video with that product a little later today.
The HXS sounded the best which is always surprising considering it’s one of the more affordable and oldest devices around. Another great vid mate!
I started playing in the early 80s, messed with all kinds of stuff over the years, and I use that perspective to remind myself what an embarrasment of riches even the cheapest modellers are these days. Im like "oh hey Ill put a TS-808 in front of a Mark II-c, with a Fane loaded HiWatt cabinet, maybe a vintage Fender dedicated reverb with 4 foot springs, maybe an FX-65 cause its my favorite chorus ever, maybe an MXR 10-band, and why not a dyna-comp for solos?
And it actually sounds like a Mrak with all that good stuff. And thats on a modeller that cost 150.
Great Intro btw \m/
Using an FM3 for years now. No urge at all to try anything else.
wow..that intro was hilarious😂..cool
The Kemper passes blind tests easily. That's all I need to know
Well I bought the nano cortex see how good it is
FANTASTIC guitar player 🤘🤘
Nice info…playing…opinion. Great job..
The cat though
😂🤣🤣😂🤣
@underthethrone668 thank you so much. Yeah, my cat is a total weirdo. He just got a lion cut at the groomers the other day, and he looks like a little baby lion. He's a little dork and I love him.
Great video. Jarrod, I think you might have another career as a metal comedian!
@@jeffhirshberg5171 haha
If you ain't using a Fractal you ain't...
I'm using...
Helix floor
or
HX-Effects + tube amps or Catalyst 100
I have some inexpensive modelers (e.g., Mooer Prime S1), sound good too.
Cheers!
Dude I just can’t get my HX stomp to sound anywhere near that good!! Maybe I haven’t ventured into the settings. It can def get overwhelming
@@w1923 it's really all about keeping it simple and good impulse responses
awesome playing
How was your throat after that intro? I certainly would have lost my voice after a few takes of that. Lol let’s see where this one goes.
It was starting to get pretty sore towards the end of all of the takes lol. I think I spent about 25 minutes doing all the takes. That was a rough shoot but a fun shoot at the same time
@@TONEWARSgearshow haha. It actually did seem pretty fun. Lol
Motorcity Guitar affiliate? You must be local to me in the Detroit area or more so Waterford/Oakland county area?
@@amurphycmu yes I live in the Waterford area
@@TONEWARSgearshow in Troy area here. I have a lot of music and hockey friends in the Waterford area. I been shopping at Motor City Guitar since I was a teenager. Best guitar store in the Midwest. Marty is an awesome dude.
@@amurphycmu I love that store. And you are right, Marty is awesome
shit, im rockin a positive grid bias head from 2018 that I picked up for $250 and I run it through my prs mt15s power amp into a mesa 1x12 rectifier cabinet and it sounds fucking great. ya aint gotta spend a zillion $$$ on a modeler to get good sound, dont get brainwashed lol. think i got $1100 or so into all of it. got the prs modded and everything. I mainly play at home and record with it and practice but you could run a bigger cabinet or direct to house straight from the bias head, i just like the prs power amp as it sounds a lil warmer to me especially with cleans but live nobody will notice shit.
Haha loved the intro
Some good weed ya got there my brother. 🤘🏻😀😀
The feature a prefer is Hype
Hey man theyve gotta sell these things somehow! Theyre certainly not doing it witj stock presets.
Very entertaining!
At this time there’s No point to have more than one modeler. All sound and emulate practically the same amps….
best intro EVER!!!!!!!!
My thing is that I'm not in a touring band. I'm not going over sea's. I'll take what I got wherever. No need for over kill.❤
Don’t need anything overkill for going overseas either, just something small that sounds good that goes into a power amp and cab
I would like Yamaha to buy IK multimedia and they can have a love child between the helix and TONEX AmpliTube stuff
The fanny pack. So much for that drink of coffee 😂
HX Stomp sounded best to my ears 👍
Nothing will top the original tonex video you did! 😂😂😂
You forgot the true killer of killers : 🔥Digitech RP70🔥
Unafraid of offending. Got to respect that.
Guilty as charged. Boss Katana Artist mkii traded in for Boss Katana Head Gen 3.
2:22 once I got my Mesa Mark V:25, I just haven't felt the need to get another amp or modeling device.
Thank you for saying what needed to be said; thank you!!! It’s all just a bunch of humbucker cray. I’m into amps ok, Hands down!!!
Awesome video as always.I think maybe you should put the guitar down and go into acting
I love my quadmasterxrushhelixmodeler
The plain and simple truth is that every one of these modern high end modelers are capable of incredible tones. Any claim that any one of them "sounds bad" is plain and simple ignorance. Sure some will have a preference for certain workflows or features but if the ultimate goal is professional quality tones that would suit any recording or live use then every platform featured in this video would achieve that with ease. The flip side of that, which people often forget is all these pedals are equally as capable of sounding terrible if dialed in badly. It ultimately comes down to learning that pedal's workflow and having a bit of knowledge how to dial in the tone you want. After that you can't go too far wrong with any of these pedals.
Best intro ever lol
Well I had to question for a moment if I was gonna sub, after finding out you don't always talk like the intro... Ehh why not..!🤣🤣
Well said
I feel officially addressed and offended by the intro. 😀 Just joking, you are bang on the money. Of course, we content creators sometimes have to try to lure the audience into our videos, and for that, you have to be at least a bit hyperbolic, unfortunately. But yeah, we talked about all of that already, it is, what it is! But good to have that constant reminder, so folks: USE THE GEAR YOU HAVE! 🙂
Thank you! There's so many good amp modelers now. Size, features, and format should be the deciding factors.
Mario Van Peebles (Kane) Highlander LOL...
@@WilliamWendland I love all of those movies.
@@TONEWARSgearshow Same here. Might have to watch them this weekend now.
Haha. That was great. Cracked me up.
That intro portrays all the shitty music youtubers, you are the man!
Sansamp GT2
Yup Iam one of them I had great tone but you tube made me lose my way
So much that I forgot to play
Now that was an intro laughed my A$$ Off.
Haha awesome!
Same!
Woah! ❤🎉