The f2p version of Pokemon Rumble World was actually hard capped in terms of how much you could spend. You could only spend $40 total and at that point you also unlock all the features the physical version had. Nintendo did a number of these effectively "f2p games that are actually like trials you can put money into" at this time and it was very weird.
Yeah so they basically had it as, spend $40 of in-game currency to get every feature, or buy the physical version of the game for $40 which does the exact same thing. 😭
I honestly preferred this over giving kids heavily microtransactioned games with no money cap. They did this for magikarp jump too of setting a hard $40 limit then giving a permanent daily currency maker. This was actually to prevent both whaling (high spenders that pay $100 or more often) and kids from being preyed on for money. With how many stories you hear of kids taking their parents card or just getting hooked on spending a little often in general, these kinds of setups were one of the very few healthy ways to have f2p games and I wish they kept doing it.
I can *somewhat* defend Pokemon Rumble World because not only did they release a physical version, but even in the digital version there was a cap to how much real money you could spend and once you hit the cap it would unlock an item that gave you daily premium currency instead. It was back when Nintendo was trying to emphasize free-to-*start* games that maxed out micro transactions at the cost of a full game rather than free-to-play with infinite micro transactions
I want to add that as a kid who grew up not being able to just buy any game when they wanted, free to play games where a god send even just for a little bit each day, I remember logging into badge arcade every day just for the free plays
Crazy how they didn't do a ranger for the last stylus console. The best part of the ranger games wasn't it mechanics but it's wacky charector interactions especially with the villians. I guess they didn't have a good enough story
As someone who recently played gates to infinity, I don’t know how harshly you thought of it before but you are too kind to it. That game needs to sit in a jail.
I'd give it a 6 or a 7 personally. As flawed as it is, I'd say it's still pretty alright. It has such good graphics and music. And the Pokémon Paradise is a really cool idea too. I honestly wish they'd revisit it. -Just, y'know, make materials easier to get. And don't bottleneck missions because of them.- I also like how it's one game in the entire series that tackles the subject of our protag being from the human world. Whenever I think about the lore of our protagonist from Super, I feel weird. Because in that game, we don't even get to go back to our world. We're permanently trapped in it. Sure, we say that we want to stay there, but we also have amnesia. So we have no idea what our previous life was like. We don't even get a chance to leave. In Gates though, not only is our previous life brought up several times in the story, but at the end of the postgame, we get the option to willingly choose to come back. (Like we can literally choose to say no. We get a gameover and the game treats it like our partner failed the Dungeon, but still lol)
Pokemon MD gates to infinity had one of the best partners. But thats it the rest was extremely mediocre with the village building being beyond lame. Sky is really still the best with only real flaws being that same items dont stack in the storage box so it becomes a mess with pages upon pages of gummies and shit. I really wish they made one where I got to decorate a house with stuff found on explorations kinda like the secret base in Pm R/S/E. Also wish they had equal amount of animations and portraits for evolutions so it wasnt a downgrade to evolve the protag and partner.
Hey man I just wanna say that I recently discovered your channel and I really like your videos. Not just because the topics are of my interests, but your editing, pacing, and comedy. It’s all great. Keep going, you’re gonna be huge one day
@@-Down-D-Stairs- idrk. When I mentioned the topics, I more so meant that anyone can make a good video if people like the specific topic for that video. But this guy could make a video talking about the grass on his lawn and I would still watch it. He’s a very talented content creator, that’s what I meant.
Really annoyed with all the bad faith arguments. All of the freemium games mentioned are hard capped where 40$ lifts all restrictions. They give you the option to treat it as a standard release game and pay the 40 or to try it out free to play and see if you want ty pay later. It is impossible to whale. One of the least predatory free to play sets of games out there and yet half the video is complaining about problems that don't exist.
As someone who played all PMD games, i got into the conclusion that, in contrary of what most fans said, Gates isnt the "worst one of the series" as the story in fact takes the risk of twisting some achetypes the games were facing originally. Honestly the Munna reveal was more effective than Dusknoirs as you might remember even our character in explorers points it out earlier while in Gates that doesnt even seem perceived. Also even if our partner didnt got as much focus as Explorers, the rest of our party does and honestly they have many things to say and even a developements, something Explorers secundary characters lacks of. I allways consider Explorers more like an epic fantasy story while Gates uis more like a Slice of Life one where the mood is more calming and the focus is your soroundings instead of the action like in Explorers. Super Mystery went allmost for the same route, but the pace DRAGS A TON. I know it also has the same slice of life vibe, but they take so long in the school trying to teach you lots of gimmicks that you wouldnt use that much, or plot holes they would fill really later on, that it allmost feel exhausting. But Still the ending is worth checking by first hand, a shame to get to that point the pace is terrible. Meanwhile, just by discard, Rescue Team would be considered "the worst" or the weakest one, as also due the limited amount of creatures at the time, make the lore aspects feel more random and kinda weird for its won good. Like treating a Ninetales as she was a legendary, something could be fixed using a singular for example. And the story doesnt close that well as they leave you with some plot holes. But if you want to get a grip to these spin ofss, is definetly the better one
Pokédex 3d pro is a bit of an odd thing. On the one hand yea its not a game per say and can be meh but its also a neat way to officially get more in depth information on a Pokémon like abilities, movepools etx. It really should have been integrated into the mainline games Pokédex as it would be genuinely useful to have an in game means to see vital info on a Pokemon without the need to use Google (plus it would give the Pokédex more use beyond being just a barebones checkbox thing that only has a line of info text, model viewer and Pokémon cries and nothing else).
I loved the Legendaries in Super Mystery Dungeon. Not -only- because they were OP, but because if you bring along Hoopa, they could act as both another extra teammate, but also as free move growths. I played Riolu and slapped Focus Blast on every Legendary and Mythical I could. By end of the game, it was so powerful, it was crazy. Also, chances are by the time you recruit them, (which should be as early as possible. Because I mean, why wouldn't you go to the Legendaries first?) You would likely only be able to.use them once without Hoopa before having to deal with the accursed unavailability system anyways lol
I had the regular Pokedex 3D and never ended up getting Pro because I just didn't want to pay money for that kinda thing. I really enjoyed Pokemon Picross and had a good time with Rumble World as a free player. And, also, you know, the hard cap of $40 on some of the digital download games that appear "freemium" at first deserves mentioning, too. Team Kirby Clash Deluxe had the exact same thing and so does Super Kirby Clash on Switch. It's pretty much "You can try it out for free and if you pay for the ingame currency enough to reach the cap, you'll have enough to play as much as you want whenever you want as if you bought the game up front". I just wish everything did it in that way instead of just Nintendo's games. They even tried to be decent to people with Super Mario Run being a one-time payment but it didn't do so well because people on mobile are so used to the freemium model and not paying a regular game's price on mobile platforms such that spending anything more than $1.99 is unthinkable. That's pretty dang unfortunate for Nintendo, trying to be decent but getting slapped in the face.
I genuinely like both Pokemon Rumble games on 3DS, I was a big fan of the Wii game when it came out. They're very dumb games but scratch a specific kind of gaming itch that will or won't be attractive to you, but, that's also all they are.
Rumble Blast was my first Rumble game and I didn't like that Pokémon had fixed strength and couldn't grow any stronger. Taking a Pokémon from the beginning of the game to the end is something I really enjoy about the RPGs. But I realized recently that Rumble is a good game to entertain my little cousin who likes Pokémon, since the gameplay is so simple. But he kept wanting to use Pikachu even though it wasn't strong enough to beat enemies past the tutorial. Kind of bummed I didn't get Super Mystery Dungeon and get its exclusive 3DS theme. Oh well. I would really like to try Pokémon Art Academy! I'd love to practice drawing Pokémon.
Rumble World + Shuffle had my broke ass in college enterTAINED. In between classes and shifts you wouldn’t have to p2p :’) genuinely got so sad when they shut down
It's crazy that 2015 was one of the worst years for Nintendo as a whole, but PSMD comes out and saves it from being a borderline irredeemable year for them (I guess there was also Pokken, but it was an arcade exclusive until 2016, so it's hard to count it).
@@RednekGamurz really, because 2015 gave us Kirby rainbow cure, splatoon, Mario maker, worlly world, xenonlade x, all fantastic Wii U games, Mario party 10, ultra smash, and amiibo festival were just 3 mediocre/weak games to really and I dare say zip lash isn’t bad at all and is only hated because of Scott the wiz and it being the nail in the coffin of its series.
Considering that I only liked Pokémon Rumble Blast and not any other titles on this list, I would say yes, almost all of the Pokémon spinoff games were bad on the Nintendo 3ds.
Rumble Blast struggles a bit interms of postgame(The grind is insane), but it is still a goated game. Sadly the only rumble game to ever be successful so the series is dead(I unironically love the series, even if I have my diffrences with Rumble World).
I had pokemon rumble blast but it was stolen and also pokemon y was stolen at the same time, we knew who stole it but not only did he hide the games but his parents tried to defend him even though he shamelessly told us that he was the one who stole it, eventually we gave up, later he stole from a different child but his parents didn't give up, I don't know the exact details but he and his family got into serious trouble and I think it had more to do with something his parents did but it was enough that they moved to another country
I never enjoyed when Nintendo did exclusivity for their games. Like, you need a 3DS for Dream Radar, as well as Poké Transporter, AND BW2 to get the full experience? And that’s not the first time Nintendo has done something cheap like this. Those limited time events that date back all the way to generation 4 where you had to connect your system to the internet? Of course, I didn’t pick up a Pokemon game until maybe 2017-2019 but still.
"It was the first time a Mystery Dungeon game went into full 3D." Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wander 3: The Sleeping Princess and the Karakuri masion was full 3D. I can't say for sure, but I think Chocobo's Dungeon 2 was the first fully 3D Mystery Dungeon game. It's not even true for Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, as the Adventure Squad titles also beat it to the punch.
Your comment makes no sense. You either mean: -Every single Fire Emblem game, played on the Nintendo Switch. Or… -Every Fire Emblem game on the Nintendo Switch.
Like spin off Pokémon but 3ds some of weaker, beside snap remake anca talking one. And lot went to iPad the 3 puzzle one are good that on both iPad snd 3ds and maybe Wii U too.
The f2p version of Pokemon Rumble World was actually hard capped in terms of how much you could spend. You could only spend $40 total and at that point you also unlock all the features the physical version had. Nintendo did a number of these effectively "f2p games that are actually like trials you can put money into" at this time and it was very weird.
Yeah so they basically had it as, spend $40 of in-game currency to get every feature, or buy the physical version of the game for $40 which does the exact same thing. 😭
@@LazerGlassX3 Yeah. Or the "take forever and play a tiny bit of time, but hey it's all free!" that remaining f2p gets you.
@@EngineerOfChaos Yeah true.. I hate all that kindof stuff when it comes to greedy companies :/
I honestly preferred this over giving kids heavily microtransactioned games with no money cap. They did this for magikarp jump too of setting a hard $40 limit then giving a permanent daily currency maker. This was actually to prevent both whaling (high spenders that pay $100 or more often) and kids from being preyed on for money. With how many stories you hear of kids taking their parents card or just getting hooked on spending a little often in general, these kinds of setups were one of the very few healthy ways to have f2p games and I wish they kept doing it.
They're call them free to start games
I can *somewhat* defend Pokemon Rumble World because not only did they release a physical version, but even in the digital version there was a cap to how much real money you could spend and once you hit the cap it would unlock an item that gave you daily premium currency instead. It was back when Nintendo was trying to emphasize free-to-*start* games that maxed out micro transactions at the cost of a full game rather than free-to-play with infinite micro transactions
I want to add that as a kid who grew up not being able to just buy any game when they wanted, free to play games where a god send even just for a little bit each day, I remember logging into badge arcade every day just for the free plays
Crazy how they didn't do a ranger for the last stylus console. The best part of the ranger games wasn't it mechanics but it's wacky charector interactions especially with the villians. I guess they didn't have a good enough story
Ranger could totally work as a mobile game tbh.
11:56 Actually, Pokémon Shuffle came out on the 3DS before Pokémon Shuffle Mobile.
Straight answer, no, much like the 3ds Mario games, they are overlooked by many but are enjoyable
Pokémon Rumble Blast GOAT
fr is still got my copy and i always think about how amazing that game was. it was my first 3DS game actually 💯
Super mystery dungeon is 9/10 for me gates to infinity is flawed to hell and back and I never finished it sadly but I feel like I was too harsh.
I should replay it someday
As someone who recently played gates to infinity, I don’t know how harshly you thought of it before but you are too kind to it. That game needs to sit in a jail.
I'd give it a 6 or a 7 personally. As flawed as it is, I'd say it's still pretty alright. It has such good graphics and music. And the Pokémon Paradise is a really cool idea too. I honestly wish they'd revisit it. -Just, y'know, make materials easier to get. And don't bottleneck missions because of them.- I also like how it's one game in the entire series that tackles the subject of our protag being from the human world. Whenever I think about the lore of our protagonist from Super, I feel weird. Because in that game, we don't even get to go back to our world. We're permanently trapped in it. Sure, we say that we want to stay there, but we also have amnesia. So we have no idea what our previous life was like. We don't even get a chance to leave. In Gates though, not only is our previous life brought up several times in the story, but at the end of the postgame, we get the option to willingly choose to come back. (Like we can literally choose to say no. We get a gameover and the game treats it like our partner failed the Dungeon, but still lol)
The good news is that is I beat mewtwo y stage without using gems is Pokémon shuffle .
I swear to arceus pokemon conquest needs a sequel
Pokemon MD gates to infinity had one of the best partners.
But thats it the rest was extremely mediocre with the village building being beyond lame.
Sky is really still the best with only real flaws being that same items dont stack in the storage box so it becomes a mess with pages upon pages of gummies and shit.
I really wish they made one where I got to decorate a house with stuff found on explorations kinda like the secret base in Pm R/S/E.
Also wish they had equal amount of animations and portraits for evolutions so it wasnt a downgrade to evolve the protag and partner.
Hey man I just wanna say that I recently discovered your channel and I really like your videos. Not just because the topics are of my interests, but your editing, pacing, and comedy. It’s all great. Keep going, you’re gonna be huge one day
What topics would you like him to cover?
@@-Down-D-Stairs- idrk. When I mentioned the topics, I more so meant that anyone can make a good video if people like the specific topic for that video. But this guy could make a video talking about the grass on his lawn and I would still watch it. He’s a very talented content creator, that’s what I meant.
Really annoyed with all the bad faith arguments. All of the freemium games mentioned are hard capped where 40$ lifts all restrictions. They give you the option to treat it as a standard release game and pay the 40 or to try it out free to play and see if you want ty pay later. It is impossible to whale. One of the least predatory free to play sets of games out there and yet half the video is complaining about problems that don't exist.
Eh, well, you’d HAVE to spend tons of money to speed up the gameplay. Otherwise, it gets tedious.
As someone who played all PMD games, i got into the conclusion that, in contrary of what most fans said, Gates isnt the "worst one of the series" as the story in fact takes the risk of twisting some achetypes the games were facing originally. Honestly the Munna reveal was more effective than Dusknoirs as you might remember even our character in explorers points it out earlier while in Gates that doesnt even seem perceived. Also even if our partner didnt got as much focus as Explorers, the rest of our party does and honestly they have many things to say and even a developements, something Explorers secundary characters lacks of. I allways consider Explorers more like an epic fantasy story while Gates uis more like a Slice of Life one where the mood is more calming and the focus is your soroundings instead of the action like in Explorers.
Super Mystery went allmost for the same route, but the pace DRAGS A TON. I know it also has the same slice of life vibe, but they take so long in the school trying to teach you lots of gimmicks that you wouldnt use that much, or plot holes they would fill really later on, that it allmost feel exhausting. But Still the ending is worth checking by first hand, a shame to get to that point the pace is terrible. Meanwhile, just by discard, Rescue Team would be considered "the worst" or the weakest one, as also due the limited amount of creatures at the time, make the lore aspects feel more random and kinda weird for its won good. Like treating a Ninetales as she was a legendary, something could be fixed using a singular for example. And the story doesnt close that well as they leave you with some plot holes. But if you want to get a grip to these spin ofss, is definetly the better one
Pokédex 3d pro is a bit of an odd thing. On the one hand yea its not a game per say and can be meh but its also a neat way to officially get more in depth information on a Pokémon like abilities, movepools etx. It really should have been integrated into the mainline games Pokédex as it would be genuinely useful to have an in game means to see vital info on a Pokemon without the need to use Google (plus it would give the Pokédex more use beyond being just a barebones checkbox thing that only has a line of info text, model viewer and Pokémon cries and nothing else).
I've spent hundreads of hours on the free rumble game
I loved the Legendaries in Super Mystery Dungeon. Not -only- because they were OP, but because if you bring along Hoopa, they could act as both another extra teammate, but also as free move growths. I played Riolu and slapped Focus Blast on every Legendary and Mythical I could. By end of the game, it was so powerful, it was crazy.
Also, chances are by the time you recruit them, (which should be as early as possible. Because I mean, why wouldn't you go to the Legendaries first?) You would likely only be able to.use them once without Hoopa before having to deal with the accursed unavailability system anyways lol
Pokédex 3d is great for me 😞 I am an artist so I actually find it useful to check the models, and even fun to check the data sometimes
I had the regular Pokedex 3D and never ended up getting Pro because I just didn't want to pay money for that kinda thing. I really enjoyed Pokemon Picross and had a good time with Rumble World as a free player.
And, also, you know, the hard cap of $40 on some of the digital download games that appear "freemium" at first deserves mentioning, too. Team Kirby Clash Deluxe had the exact same thing and so does Super Kirby Clash on Switch. It's pretty much "You can try it out for free and if you pay for the ingame currency enough to reach the cap, you'll have enough to play as much as you want whenever you want as if you bought the game up front". I just wish everything did it in that way instead of just Nintendo's games.
They even tried to be decent to people with Super Mario Run being a one-time payment but it didn't do so well because people on mobile are so used to the freemium model and not paying a regular game's price on mobile platforms such that spending anything more than $1.99 is unthinkable. That's pretty dang unfortunate for Nintendo, trying to be decent but getting slapped in the face.
Pokémon Rumble Blast is the GOAT, however I do wanna try Super Mystery Dungeon sometime
I genuinely like both Pokemon Rumble games on 3DS, I was a big fan of the Wii game when it came out. They're very dumb games but scratch a specific kind of gaming itch that will or won't be attractive to you, but, that's also all they are.
Will always hold onto hope that the rumble series comes back I freaking love blast🗣️
They're all certainly better than all the microtransaction slop we get these days.
Rumble Blast was my first Rumble game and I didn't like that Pokémon had fixed strength and couldn't grow any stronger. Taking a Pokémon from the beginning of the game to the end is something I really enjoy about the RPGs. But I realized recently that Rumble is a good game to entertain my little cousin who likes Pokémon, since the gameplay is so simple. But he kept wanting to use Pikachu even though it wasn't strong enough to beat enemies past the tutorial.
Kind of bummed I didn't get Super Mystery Dungeon and get its exclusive 3DS theme. Oh well.
I would really like to try Pokémon Art Academy! I'd love to practice drawing Pokémon.
Rumble World + Shuffle had my broke ass in college enterTAINED. In between classes and shifts you wouldn’t have to p2p :’) genuinely got so sad when they shut down
Pokemoin Shuffle and Pokemon Picross would've been so much better if they weren't freemium games.
And if they hadn't jacked up item prices/made stage 37 worse on mobile
Super mystery dungeon is the best spin off pokemon game that came out in the last decade
More like the last truly great Pokemon game ever. Rescue Team DX was great, but that was a fluke in a sea of mid and trash.
It's crazy that 2015 was one of the worst years for Nintendo as a whole, but PSMD comes out and saves it from being a borderline irredeemable year for them (I guess there was also Pokken, but it was an arcade exclusive until 2016, so it's hard to count it).
@@RednekGamurz really, because 2015 gave us Kirby rainbow cure, splatoon, Mario maker, worlly world, xenonlade x, all fantastic Wii U games, Mario party 10, ultra smash, and amiibo festival were just 3 mediocre/weak games to really and I dare say zip lash isn’t bad at all and is only hated because of Scott the wiz and it being the nail in the coffin of its series.
Considering that I only liked Pokémon Rumble Blast and not any other titles on this list, I would say yes, almost all of the Pokémon spinoff games were bad on the Nintendo 3ds.
Gotta love seeing the origins of the models that lived rent free in my head for the next decade with 3d pro.
Rumble Blast struggles a bit interms of postgame(The grind is insane), but it is still a goated game. Sadly the only rumble game to ever be successful so the series is dead(I unironically love the series, even if I have my diffrences with Rumble World).
I new Pokémon rumble wasn’t a fever dream 😭
Love these pokemon videos, literally have almost watched all of them! Keep it up!
I had pokemon rumble blast but it was stolen and also pokemon y was stolen at the same time, we knew who stole it but not only did he hide the games but his parents tried to defend him even though he shamelessly told us that he was the one who stole it, eventually we gave up, later he stole from a different child but his parents didn't give up, I don't know the exact details but he and his family got into serious trouble and I think it had more to do with something his parents did but it was enough that they moved to another country
I never enjoyed when Nintendo did exclusivity for their games. Like, you need a 3DS for Dream Radar, as well as Poké Transporter, AND BW2 to get the full experience?
And that’s not the first time Nintendo has done something cheap like this. Those limited time events that date back all the way to generation 4 where you had to connect your system to the internet?
Of course, I didn’t pick up a Pokemon game until maybe 2017-2019 but still.
I mean they pretty much did this bw2 because the 3rd was out for a year and the DS was dying
"It was the first time a Mystery Dungeon game went into full 3D."
Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wander 3: The Sleeping Princess and the Karakuri masion was full 3D. I can't say for sure, but I think Chocobo's Dungeon 2 was the first fully 3D Mystery Dungeon game. It's not even true for Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, as the Adventure Squad titles also beat it to the punch.
Proof that Pokemon Mystery Dungeon fans don't even care about Mystery Dungeon 😔
I miss not so great Pokemon spin-off games
I remember that Pokémon super mystery dungeon was the only game I played in 2015
Pokémon Shuffle mentioned 🗣🗣 What the heck is a new gameplay update
Vaporeon jokes arent funny
So glad I’m not the only one who thinks so. It gives off Twitter humor.
I would love another Pokemon Rumble or even have it on mobile! ❤
I like Pokémon gates of infinity ♾️ .
It's not the best but it is super good
It’s a good game in its own right. But the consensus among PMD fans is that it’s the weakest entry of the four. (Wiiware games don’t count)
If I hear 1 bad world about super mystery dungeon
I love the rumble games . Nice spin-offs . Nothing like a real Pokémon game but still fun
I absolutely love both Detective Pikachu games!!!
Detective Pikachu was fun! Its not the same type of game, but it looks better than sword and shield haha
Can you do walkthroughs of your favorite games please?
All Fire Emblem Games in Switch please
They don't even have all Fire Emblem games in English.
Your comment makes no sense. You either mean:
-Every single Fire Emblem game, played on the Nintendo Switch.
Or…
-Every Fire Emblem game on the Nintendo Switch.
@AGZhark you're understand anyways lool. Not make a big deal
@@pattouco Not sure how I am “making a big deal” about this when I’m trying to better word your comment to understand it more clearly.
@@AGZhark like I said, you make a big deal with this with all theses paragraph. You can continue if you want. Have a good day.
no?
Wow such empty
Like spin off Pokémon but 3ds some of weaker, beside snap remake anca talking one. And lot went to iPad the 3 puzzle one are good that on both iPad snd 3ds and maybe Wii U too.
Pokemon conquest?
@@AljohnLorica It should of been on the list if Pokémon were to shift development of the game on to 3ds
The side games have, arguably, some of the best titles and most loved works in the entire franchise. I dont get the point of this video.
To rate them.
My 🐐
Dream radar was a useful app
But not a very good pokemon game lol
all were bad except pokemon super mystery dungeon
Yeah this was kind of the opinion i ended up on too. I also liked the rumble games a bit but the best was clearly Super Mystery Dungeon :D
Rumble Blast says you’re wrong
kay why ess