The Truth About Project+'s New Update...

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ความคิดเห็น • 135

  • @arnox4554
    @arnox4554 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    > "Hey, bring back Fox's one frame of intangibility on shine like he had in Melee. :D"
    > *team nerfs Fox's d-air*
    ...

  • @ashemabahumat4173
    @ashemabahumat4173 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    >they nerfed ganon
    ...the fuckin temerity...

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Making Link a below-average weight just doesn't feel right, especially when Toon Link already does that.

  • @dankl3ss194
    @dankl3ss194 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    Can't believe it's been 3 years and they won't add Lyn or Isaac

    • @GlitchanBlack
      @GlitchanBlack หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That’s because PMEX did that.

    • @dankl3ss194
      @dankl3ss194 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@GlitchanBlack not at the quality of p+ just another 1 of those unpolish character out of the 50+

    • @normalperson7
      @normalperson7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      takes a lot od time

    • @dankl3ss194
      @dankl3ss194 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@normalperson7 Yeah hopefully Knux isn't the last one

    • @dankl3ss194
      @dankl3ss194 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @BboP_ This project was the continuation of PM so ofc we expect the stuff PM was trying to add

  • @Bobbles9498
    @Bobbles9498 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    This channel has so much work put into it, im very glad i can be here for the ride to becoming one of the biggest smash channels, Thank you so much for all the honest content, we all know theres lots of work put into it!

  • @orlanyanielrodriguezmejia616
    @orlanyanielrodriguezmejia616 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    13 years of project M and still no Waluigi

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You can play project m ex

    • @DJFoxy-TheKitsune
      @DJFoxy-TheKitsune หลายเดือนก่อน

      Project m ex remix exists y’know

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Still no Waluigi in Smash too....

    • @captainloser6237
      @captainloser6237 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Legacy XP had a pretty good Waluigi

  • @Brob2nd
    @Brob2nd หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Puff got a weight buff, now the stats going from 62 to 64, and more knockback for his back throw, going from 25 to 30, as a Puff main: yippie

    • @wigglytuffenjoyer
      @wigglytuffenjoyer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You mean I’m not the only puff main in P+? I thought we went extinct!

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wigglytuffenjoyer A midwestern player who goes by the simple name of Michael is a Jigglypuff main. Used to play the character a lot years ago, don’t know if I ever called
      myself a Jigglypuff main. I didn’t enter tournaments, so IDK if I count. By the way, how do you think Wigglytuff would play if it was added?

  • @themetapod
    @themetapod หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    YO AINT NO WAY LINK IS LIGHTER THAN MARIO NOW

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      mario got a weight nerf as well though. mario is 95 and link is 99

  • @StanleySophana
    @StanleySophana หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like the fact that the P+ team gave K. Rool's back throw to Wolf in this update

  • @chuckles6500
    @chuckles6500 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh hey! My Federation Samus alt is there at 6:46 in the Sky Sanctuary Smash clip! Tho this version is a custom colour not made by me. I believe they use a build called AusBuild which has extra costumes they made for it as I only made the one singular costume so the Cadet ZSS mod had a Samus costume for transformation compatibility.
    The other Federation Samus colours they made are cool as hell

  • @AllBladesCut
    @AllBladesCut หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    If ur main wasn’t touched then u won this patch which is weird to think about

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hey Zack, this was mentioned in the P+ discord, but you might want to somewhat remake this video or pin a comment or something. In the change to the ledge grab invincibility, you said that you lose invincibility when doing double jumps, but that's actually not the case, you're just timing the hits really late.
    The real nerf is that when you do the ledge jump and an aerial afterwards, that is where the invincibility carry-over got removed. As marth, you can still do drop-ledge mid air jump fair and still have invincibilty on it, but not if you do ledge jump fair.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's fair, tbh I wrote the script the day the update came out, so I might've understood the change wrong.

  • @comiclysmallspoon6652
    @comiclysmallspoon6652 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    as a ness main this is certaintly an update

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We survived!

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    A lot of the nerfs were really good. Project m gets a lot of complaints for being too easy and part of that is the strong-ish recoveries and some of the easy kill confirms. The nerfs intended to cut back on some of those more obnoxious features while still making the characters good.

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then they nerf Fox for no reason again.

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@justice8718 1. He gets buffed from the stacked knockback no longer applying full hitstun when sliding to the ground like melee (which is a buff for him because he's a fast faller) 2.not for no reason, it's just to allign the hitboxes with the hurboxes more so he has less of a disjoint. For fox, it's the most minor of nerfs, and nothing to really worry about.

  • @buckledben
    @buckledben หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I think its good the devs aren’t afraid to nerf characters to prevent power-creep

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah but some of these are just weird. For example why does Link's d-air have one point less of damage? What's the point of that? Did Link REALLY need any kind of nerf at all? How about bringing back Fox's one frame of intangibility on shine like he had in Melee? It would almost completely bring full consistency between his Melee and P+ incarnations, but instead his d-air hitbox got nerfed...
      I don't want to just complain though because there's a ton of great changes here with the foremost perhaps being the removal of that dumb one-frame physics delay. Thank goodness for that. It'll do a lot for responsiveness.

    • @razorn6247
      @razorn6247 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly pretty irritating that they haven't made the melee characters at least the same as they are in Melee and keep nerfing Wolf...

    • @mkz6258
      @mkz6258 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@arnox4554 still begging for PM fox to get buffed in 2024 is insane ngl

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mkz6258 I gotta lie, this is a great take.

  • @miningboy
    @miningboy หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My dream modpack for Brawl modding in the future is every character, stage, and music from the official smash games in the project m engine, kinda like HDR for Ultimate

    • @luisemiliomelendezsaenz2994
      @luisemiliomelendezsaenz2994 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      didnt Legacy did that? or was it that all up to Brawl? or was it P+? I swear I once saw a Brawl mod with basically every stage

  • @thetouffe316
    @thetouffe316 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They finally made Samus playable (for melee players), this update is a blessing

  • @lordcownostril331
    @lordcownostril331 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    INSANE editing! Great video! How did you get all the character green screens?? 😵‍💫

  • @chandlerwatts5321
    @chandlerwatts5321 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every day I step a little closer to ROA

  • @asrieled
    @asrieled หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a Lucario main, and you have no idea the amount of rage I had built up after seeing the d-air and Up-special nerfs D:

  • @R4NK4Z
    @R4NK4Z หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    removing the spike hitbox from ikes downair? what is that supposed to balance??
    its supposed to knock opponents downwards so make it a meteor at least like with all the other spike to meteor nerfs

    • @humandsoundboard
      @humandsoundboard หลายเดือนก่อน

      its a meteor now

    • @R4NK4Z
      @R4NK4Z หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@humandsoundboard oh ok
      guess it was a little inaccurately formulated in this video

  • @Mike-sp7zv
    @Mike-sp7zv หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Glad they are updating in general. Hope they update it for 20+ years

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      would be nice but the people who play this professionally want less and less changes and for the meta to become as developed as Melee

    • @Mike-sp7zv
      @Mike-sp7zv หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@protocetid that's a narrow vision. This game could be one of the best smash games of all time. As more people are getting into PC gaming, the base will grow IF there is continuous support and content. Leaving it as is will be wasted potential to make something great.

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mike-sp7zv From my point of view (and I'm sure the P+ pros would agree) it's already the best Smash. From what I have heard it is likely going to get rollback netcode in a few years, so that should convince more people that P+ is king. Don’t get me wrong, I have my own wishlist of fighters and maybe the developers like to dream about newcomers a little too.
      Competitive players have criticized the game for not having a developed meta game, and not just Melee players. In my efforts to break into the competitive side of the game, I've learned why this crowd has opinions that are unusual to us casuals. A developed meta is attractive to competitive players because then they know exactly how to handle their character and their opponent’s. Solving the meta is fun sure, but some players don’t like the uncertainty and vagueness that comes with a game that hasn’t been figured out.

    • @baileyayyy5085
      @baileyayyy5085 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mike-sp7zv how is that any more narrow of a vision than closing off the possibility of long term meta development...? just cause you like it more?

  • @lorenzodellisola8199
    @lorenzodellisola8199 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the lucas magnet "buff" you stated that stalls his vertical momentum practically patched out multimag😿

  • @trashstarlazy
    @trashstarlazy หลายเดือนก่อน

    the pit change is actually the distance at which arrow pops up. its still active till it goes off stage or collides with something it, u just have to be closer if u want arrow to pop up for arrow up smash confirms.

  • @ekubo954
    @ekubo954 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    13:40 Thicc ahh hurtboxes 💀💀

    • @MrDrLuigi_
      @MrDrLuigi_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why does she have an ASS hurtbox? 😂

  • @Fedivdicher
    @Fedivdicher หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They made Samus thicker

  • @lewisbirkett4428
    @lewisbirkett4428 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dayum zss's butt hitboxes

  • @robotboi1247
    @robotboi1247 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was not expecting to hear you use splatoon music, a pleasant surprise!

  • @Mr.D0rAdE517
    @Mr.D0rAdE517 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Reste In Peace Donkey Kong You Were Strong You Were Strong 💪.

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think DK still has it!

    • @Mr.D0rAdE517
      @Mr.D0rAdE517 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmmm we will see

  • @BigDnotimpressed
    @BigDnotimpressed หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not a big fan of the changes but I can still enjoy it. I'm on the fence with changing my main to Ganondorf for this.

  • @sikeyouthought2484
    @sikeyouthought2484 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sonic had so many nerfs that only a few got touched upon. Dash attack got nerfed and by proxy his Gatling Dacus combo got gutted past mid percent.

  • @Freeraining-og7uh
    @Freeraining-og7uh หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Will there be a new P+ tier list?

  • @mileswoodley8751
    @mileswoodley8751 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    how do you get the greenscreen’s of the characters?

    • @YauDerAllerEchte
      @YauDerAllerEchte หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im also curious tell us honest content

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe a custom stage that’s all green

  • @krypto_7155
    @krypto_7155 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:13 NOOOO

  • @Monke_ssbm1477
    @Monke_ssbm1477 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Youre a ness main?!!! Surely you know the goat Ryzuul, great video btw

  • @Mangocheese19
    @Mangocheese19 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why would they Massacre dedede for this?

  • @FabsterCola
    @FabsterCola หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is the first version of P+ I am playing so can't compare it to the previous version. I will say I am having lots of fun with it. Still figuring out which character I will main, but I narrowed it down to Dedede, Marth or Sheik will need to play more with those three to see which one I like the most and want to hone my skills with. The aerial attack removing ledge invincibility is something I didn't know about so that's something I can take with me while learning this game.

    • @Freeraining-og7uh
      @Freeraining-og7uh หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you playing it on Wii, WiiU, or PC?

  • @adrianrenard1262
    @adrianrenard1262 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im happy because I main Samus but at the same I pretty much use all the rosters besides olimar, wario and meta knight soooo more sadness than happiness

  • @DinkyKnag
    @DinkyKnag หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have read and reread what Bowser's change was in the patch, since he's my main, but I still don't get it. A well, it was only one thing, and Bowser is still great as ever.

  • @gnardawgyt
    @gnardawgyt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They absolutely neutered Wolf. I won't be playing this patch ever!

  • @WTH1music
    @WTH1music หลายเดือนก่อน

    I look forward to the new tier list vid so I can have an opinion on this discourse

  • @Rob-qe3cg
    @Rob-qe3cg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They took the first hit off of ganondorf's uptilt. Supposedly he had some sort of shield break with it? But I defy you to find me one clip from any important match where it mattered. It feels like a nerf because someone lost a game they didn't like and went on a crusade to take tools from a C tier because it hurt their feelings personally. I don't understand how people look at most high tiers tools and justify it all by saying "learn to play around it" then look at some middle of the road heavy hitter and say "yeah, can't let this guy have anything, it's too hard to play around this niche shield break scenario."

  • @luisemiliomelendezsaenz2994
    @luisemiliomelendezsaenz2994 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Naaaaaaah they ruined my favorite ZSS skin, the Justin Bailey, goddamn hahahaha the new one is great, but the old one I liked more

  • @silverbladeO2
    @silverbladeO2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:39 Wait... Sheik was Peach this whole time????!!!!

  • @linguine4500
    @linguine4500 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They removed Wolf from the game

  • @HNcomics
    @HNcomics หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I play bowser. I love this update :)

  • @tastyfalcon1788
    @tastyfalcon1788 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a Mario player, his nerfs were very fair

  • @Magikarp-4ever
    @Magikarp-4ever หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh YAY!!!!!! ITS BRAWL!!!!!!!

  • @GhibliNova
    @GhibliNova 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    pretty dumb. Im just gonna stick to PM Community Complete

  • @nathan-lf7yc
    @nathan-lf7yc หลายเดือนก่อน

    They made zeldas fireball a little faster whoopdi doo

  • @DidYouSeeGrant
    @DidYouSeeGrant หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    goat smash channel

  • @lyrabelacqua4120
    @lyrabelacqua4120 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I envy your work ethic

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks

  • @humandsoundboard
    @humandsoundboard หลายเดือนก่อน

    you only lose invincibility if you perform an attack from tourney winner not from what you said, you can still perform aerials with invencibility by just letting go ledge and jumping like falcon knee for example and the timing didn’t change so stop the copium, and for people that are crying about nerfs they were very much needed lol, nerf lucario again btw

  • @spaceace9103
    @spaceace9103 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buff zero suit LETS GOOO

  • @TramiNguyen-oi3kp
    @TramiNguyen-oi3kp หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this Super Smash Brothers game!

  • @shadowxtulhybridtheoryep2780
    @shadowxtulhybridtheoryep2780 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Poor luigi

  • @PizzaTimeTheater690
    @PizzaTimeTheater690 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3 years of P+ and no Dishonest Content

  • @jeremiahhunley2459
    @jeremiahhunley2459 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:40 Sheik???

  • @allenvazquez4591
    @allenvazquez4591 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes but NO WANT TO NEW COLOR MARIO BECUSE I WANT IT TO MR. M

  • @CakeKid57
    @CakeKid57 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i ❤️ my waddle dees

  • @ojgimpson
    @ojgimpson หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rip wolf back throw shit is useless now

  • @elibonham4388
    @elibonham4388 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate this update

  • @DarkFletcher1995
    @DarkFletcher1995 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They actually thicc-ined Zero Suit Samus 😏😏😏

    • @S0ftiB0iled
      @S0ftiB0iled หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Go outside

    • @DarkFletcher1995
      @DarkFletcher1995 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@S0ftiB0iled it was a joke my guy

    • @Brob2nd
      @Brob2nd หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Go outside

    • @DarkFletcher1995
      @DarkFletcher1995 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a fnucking joke.

    • @Freeraining-og7uh
      @Freeraining-og7uh หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh damn 😫🍆🍑

  • @darkshiftergg
    @darkshiftergg หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mmmm, tastey. Imo lucas new top 1

  • @rondoudoushiney3868
    @rondoudoushiney3868 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This update is really bad in my opinion. Like who the fuck thought that nerfing everyone was a good idea ? Buffing everyone would a way better options.

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And give everyone a dthrow kill confirm just like Mario? No thanks, that sounds boring.

  • @PizzaTimeTheater690
    @PizzaTimeTheater690 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jokes aside P+ needs to stop over nerfing some chracters which makes the game more boring.

  • @Mrclip-br3vz
    @Mrclip-br3vz หลายเดือนก่อน

    One for the algorythm

  • @Magikarp-4ever
    @Magikarp-4ever หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk wtf this is

    • @DJFoxy-TheKitsune
      @DJFoxy-TheKitsune หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A Brawl Mod and continuation of Project M

  • @BasedStory
    @BasedStory หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This will get hate but this update, character buffing/nerfing wise, was atrocious. Didnt buff characters that need it and nerfed characters too much.

    • @mattwsd
      @mattwsd หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr like they nerfed move that weren't that useful like dk's down b on ground, or knux's vertical recovery. I hope on project plus 3.03 they buff some character that really need it