have you considered using any small gyros in your aircraft? just a simple one would really help with these trial runs. cant wait for the files on this one too your designs are really nice.
Heartbreaker. I was looking at the size compared to the mini delta and knew it would be too small for me, I was hoping it wasn’t too small for you! We’re heading to the field to test the red J10 and new pocket rocker now
Nice one, would like to pint one of ur little plains, and put fpv and flight controller in it! Hopefully u put some new on ur cults sites 😅 Do u have some recommended 50 or 64 mm edf s for 4s? Never had one only normal pusher motors.. or maybe u have an additonal way for a firewall to mount a quadmotor / pusher? This wpuld give more space and it would be less expensive❤ A Tip from me for less drag: Sanding, epoxy 50/50 with isopropanol (better to paint) = super smooth and more stable.
A Vee Tail for rear stabilizers would decrease your stall speed and improve yaw, pitch and roll response. Straighten the flow more on the single inlet or split into 2 smaller inlets with less drag than 1 large inlet, will increase top speed too.
I’ve built a lot of speed planes and helis. I’ve gone very very fast. Over 250mph and going for 300mph plus. One thing I’ve learned over the years. Aerodynamic is everything then power. 3D printed planes are very draggy and require more power then say a composite. It would be cool to use one of those and make a mold!
should paint it some high visíbility colors, alternating between left and right wing aswell as top and bottom, i do that with my smaller slope soarers and it really helps in quickly seeing which way the plane is pointing
Nice! Could you report the WCL please for this? I've just crashed my 660g 8 dm2 plane. That has the WCL of 29. I'm not sure if that's flyable at all. :D
Add small amount of dihedral and wing tips, narrow tail and increase height, should solve your problems,😊 keep trying and learning, never give up just make it better, ahh paint it flouresnt orange
Had my second flight with your pocket rocket. Servo gave out at 200 feet flew off into god knows where im currently sending a buddy with a dji to look for it, little hopes flew awesome tho
@@hotlapkyle not your fault! We think the glue didn't hold up! We found a servo I didn't have any control! Was pretty funny to watch fly away before I realized what happened
Ok, constructive criticism.... I really like what you are doing and I am continually impressed by the quality of the build and the stability inherent with your designs..... Generally I believe if it looks right, it will fly right. Your models LOOK right. It seems like all your problems stem from center of gravity issues. Remember, nose heavy is ok. Tail heavy is death. With that said....... You should build a simple PVC launcher that will support the wings and uses some surgical tubing to launch the model for you. No more throwing and trying to stabilize. And consistency in your launches will help you a GREAT DEAL in evaluating your COG. Because you can do simple glide tests that way too. I build my crazy designs initially with no motor and use a small battery for the servos and receiver to do test glides from a launcher with a foot release.... That gives me a 30-50 foot glide, with no torque roll and a soft landing pretty much no matter what happens. That's because I start nose heavy. The worst thing that is going to happen to me is the model needs a lot of up elevator and I'm sliding in the grass. With the reduction in weight, even a lawn dart landing doesn't hurt much. Then slowly move your COG back until she floats like a butterfly. Mount your motor and battery and THEN sting like a bee. You will have to get used to flying more but it's TOTALLY worth it. I've got 45 years experience under my belt. I spent the first 30 years doing it like you are now. I have most of a house full of airplanes I haven't crashed yet. That's got its own problems..... Maybe I'll have that worked out by the time you get there.
Hand launching can be its own reward. The danger of crashing can be exhilarating. It's kinda like gambling or driving fast. And crashing isn't so bad if it's not too costly and you enjoy repairing and building. But I agree if collecting empirical data is your main goal, increasing consistency and systematically and incrementally controlling as many variables is important.
Thanks for all the great thoughts. I should be using a bungee for sure. I tend to rush things and need to get in and out of the field in 15-20 min. Bungee setup would slow everything down. I do glide test some models in my back yard. That definitely helps.
You like delta's? How about something i've never seen anybody make. A North American XF-108 Rapier with twin 50mm EDFs optimized for maximum efflux velocity since you should have plenty of thrust.
With its small size and power of the electric motor the tendency to roll right is probably due to the power of the fan throwing it to the opposite direction of the fan blade... "Torque". Making it larger trimming it and larger control surfaces you might actually learn to tame this thing,.
You - "No sense showing you the wreckage."
Us - 🥺😢
Yeah, pictures or it didn't happen.
Totally agree. Building small planes is much more difficult that larger ones.
It's very nice to watch the evolution of the project. GL
Dood you are awesome, been enjoying seeing you get these builds up, 3 hours is rocking! RESPECT :)
You need a bungee launcher, would make those launches less sketchy
Adding FPV fixes the too small problem, then it doesn't matter if it's hard to see.
Good idea, but on a sunny day it would be easy to see on a day like that it blends into the sky
You got to paint the top and the bottom two different colors on that thing. 👍💥
"i need better eyes"
You've got Two 3D printers! What else are they for?
Wow! Amazing! And as you mentioned too small to see it properly. And too gray 🤣. Anyway, thumbs up as usual 👍
You may need to check out the XB-70 Valkyrie airplane design from the 60's. It put folding winglets on it's delta wing and hit over Mach 3
have you considered using any small gyros in your aircraft? just a simple one would really help with these trial runs. cant wait for the files on this one too your designs are really nice.
I really should! One of my test pilots uses one and they work great
Heartbreaker. I was looking at the size compared to the mini delta and knew it would be too small for me, I was hoping it wasn’t too small for you! We’re heading to the field to test the red J10 and new pocket rocker now
Good luck!!!
Nice one, would like to pint one of ur little plains, and put fpv and flight controller in it! Hopefully u put some new on ur cults sites 😅
Do u have some recommended 50 or 64 mm edf s for 4s? Never had one only normal pusher motors.. or maybe u have an additonal way for a firewall to mount a quadmotor / pusher?
This wpuld give more space and it would be less expensive❤
A Tip from me for less drag: Sanding, epoxy 50/50 with isopropanol (better to paint) = super smooth and more stable.
A Vee Tail for rear stabilizers would decrease your stall speed and improve yaw, pitch and roll response. Straighten the flow more on the single inlet or split into 2 smaller inlets with less drag than 1 large inlet, will increase top speed too.
I’ve built a lot of speed planes and helis. I’ve gone very very fast. Over 250mph and going for 300mph plus. One thing I’ve learned over the years. Aerodynamic is everything then power. 3D printed planes are very draggy and require more power then say a composite. It would be cool to use one of those and make a mold!
Also that giant intake at the top seems too draggy... Make two at the side or try to align it with the edf unit as much as possible
should paint it some high visíbility colors, alternating between left and right wing aswell as top and bottom, i do that with my smaller slope soarers and it really helps in quickly seeing which way the plane is pointing
Micros are awesome with pusher props.I had a mini Skyfun with a 5000kv edf motor running 4.1x4.1 apc prop on 3s. 100+ mph all day.
Grey is pretty tough to see.
My god you’re telling me. I have decent vision too
Nice! Could you report the WCL please for this? I've just crashed my 660g 8 dm2 plane. That has the WCL of 29. I'm not sure if that's flyable at all. :D
Add small amount of dihedral and wing tips, narrow tail and increase height, should solve your problems,😊 keep trying and learning, never give up just make it better, ahh paint it flouresnt orange
That is definitely a bit small! Would be super fast if it could be flown by someone with eagle eyes
ditch the giant intake and put two on each side and to give that rudder some more air to stabilize.
How about an F-16XL? Looks like it would be a very good scale delta.
Needs a light color on one side and a dark one in the other.
Super cool concept! Any chance I could get my hands on the design to test it with an autopilot? :)
I’m actually going to re print V2 and run it with a 64. I may release that
@@hotlapkyle yes please
It probably needs a slightly larger left ..uh, aileron? Than the right.
Is it crazy to put a little counter-roll into a fixed rudder?
Works fine for me to counter torque roll
Had my second flight with your pocket rocket. Servo gave out at 200 feet flew off into god knows where im currently sending a buddy with a dji to look for it, little hopes flew awesome tho
Ahhhh sorry dude!!
@@hotlapkyle not your fault! We think the glue didn't hold up! We found a servo I didn't have any control! Was pretty funny to watch fly away before I realized what happened
It needs a coat of orange.
Ok, constructive criticism.... I really like what you are doing and I am continually impressed by the quality of the build and the stability inherent with your designs.....
Generally I believe if it looks right, it will fly right.
Your models LOOK right.
It seems like all your problems stem from center of gravity issues.
Remember, nose heavy is ok.
Tail heavy is death.
With that said.......
You should build a simple PVC launcher that will support the wings and uses some surgical tubing to launch the model for you.
No more throwing and trying to stabilize.
And consistency in your launches will help you a GREAT DEAL in evaluating your COG.
Because you can do simple glide tests that way too.
I build my crazy designs initially with no motor and use a small battery for the servos and receiver to do test glides from a launcher with a foot release....
That gives me a 30-50 foot glide, with no torque roll and a soft landing pretty much no matter what happens.
That's because I start nose heavy. The worst thing that is going to happen to me is the model needs a lot of up elevator and I'm sliding in the grass.
With the reduction in weight, even a lawn dart landing doesn't hurt much.
Then slowly move your COG back until she floats like a butterfly.
Mount your motor and battery and THEN sting like a bee.
You will have to get used to flying more but it's TOTALLY worth it.
I've got 45 years experience under my belt. I spent the first 30 years doing it like you are now.
I have most of a house full of airplanes I haven't crashed yet.
That's got its own problems.....
Maybe I'll have that worked out by the time you get there.
Hand launching can be its own reward. The danger of crashing can be exhilarating. It's kinda like gambling or driving fast. And crashing isn't so bad if it's not too costly and you enjoy repairing and building. But I agree if collecting empirical data is your main goal, increasing consistency and systematically and incrementally controlling as many variables is important.
Thanks for all the great thoughts. I should be using a bungee for sure. I tend to rush things and need to get in and out of the field in 15-20 min. Bungee setup would slow everything down. I do glide test some models in my back yard. That definitely helps.
You are using the wrong Bungie....
put a runner in the thrust tube it will reduce thrust roll
Ik wil also be epic of you would make an 30mm Edf fighter jet
The "biip noise" was f** loud in my headphones !
Sorry!
Great design.. try a brighter color to see
Two days without a new plane. Are you alright ? 😀😀😀
You like delta's? How about something i've never seen anybody make. A North American XF-108 Rapier with twin 50mm EDFs optimized for maximum efflux velocity since you should have plenty of thrust.
Better give her a paint Job at that Size ...😊
With its small size and power of the electric motor the tendency to roll right is probably due to the power of the fan throwing it to the opposite direction of the fan blade... "Torque". Making it larger trimming it and larger control surfaces you might actually learn to tame this thing,.
Good point.
How are you calculating you cg?
I like to start with flying wing CG calculator website
@@hotlapkyle I am surprised it's getting the cg so wrong for you?
Have you guys seen a smaller 50mm edf?
Print one.....
Yes, great planes Evader. Remember small is touchy.
@@westhobbiesrc8051 just looked up this plane! It’s small but not even close. The e evader has 26” wingspan. Mine has 14”
Gyro
I need better eyes 😅😅😅😅
😂
it was nose heavy, guys
I have told you.
Lockheed L-133
great prototype jet plane!!!
these are guided missiles, dawg
make chuck glider to get c.g. and move slightly forward for powered 🤷
I should go into the defense industry