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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- Kevin finally begins his journey into the land of power mods. We give an in depth review of the Accessport itself and COBB's Stage 1 OTS tune.
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Just did mine. 3400 miles. 2020 WRX. The car is ridiculously awesome now. Goodbye gas mileage... :)
I know exactly where you are lol!!! Awesome, that’s something I need to do ASAP.
Thanks for the installation instructions. Greatly appreciated!
Installing my AP today 🥳
I ordered mine. Cant wait!
Cool! I just got a 2017 WRX last week and my Accessport comes tomorrow, your video makes me super excited to get on the Stage 1 tune!
That's awesome Matt! Any plans for other mods yet?
Its been a year how the wrx been
@@JT-nk8gv lmfao im just seeing this comment now. I think you meant you're, pity you're a dumby.
Hey Matt. We've removed that comment. No place for hate on our channel 👍
I would jump right into stage 2 and save that 500 bucks for pro-tune
congrats happy driving
Just found your channel. Great content! I've been holding off on mine but not sure how much longer. Keep up the great work and stay safe. Subbed
Thanks for the sub!! The AP makes such a huge difference in driveability and ease of driving so I'd definitely go for it if I were you, unless you have concerns about warranty
This was one of the videos that convinced me to go Stage 1 with my 2020 WRX (which happened earlier this morning!) Loving the difference it makes to the car 8)
Any idea if it will void the warranty?
how is it so far?
@@m0aravindkarthik just got mine today and the girl at service said she’s had like 7 wrx and always get the stage 1 cause it doesn’t void the warranty.
@@kevina4600 uhhh lol yea bud
We’ll dam I’ve done some research since my comment and it ain’t looking too good, I guess it ultimately depends on the dealer.
sounds good bro
Just bought a silver 2016 wrx with 30k miles today I'm in love already 🤤
I got a 2015 with 55k, it has some tasty accessories and I can't get over how hard 3rd pulls and my turbo😍
Great video 👍
The difference is night and day. I didn’t really enjoy driving the car that much before I installed the accessport due to how unhappy it felt, but afterwards it just inhibits so much confidence. It feels so smooth and linear. This is how the car should have came from factory. City driving is also notably less annoying, because that constant cycle of 1st-2nd-stop repeat wasn’t so annoying and the throttle just feels so much more linear. However if you still want that aggressive jump then just give it some beans and it’ll feel even faster than stock. The pedal just makes more sense and 50% throttle to 100% throttle actually feels like it makes twice the difference. And the readings? The car felt happy. On stock tune my DAM was sitting at 0.68 but after switching to stage 1 it quickly went back to 1 and I was experiencing little to no knock on hard pulls. I love it, I will NEVER go back to stock tune. I will pro-tune however
How long did u go before protuning?
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Thanks much for the awesome video. I'm getting a 2020 WRX Premium with the short throw shifter. Ill pick up in about 2 weeks. I cant wait! I'm considering a Cobb tune. Stage one 93 octane. Ill probably do a drop in K&N filter. Keep up the excellent videos.
Thank you for the support!!
If you end up getting an aftermarket filter, I would personally only get the Grimmspeed one.. other brands have caused issues with the tune in some cars.
@@WRXGarage Thanks!
Nice👍🏻👍🏻I have yet to pull the trigger, maybe after income tax.
Wonder how it will change my STI
u guys r hella cool keep up the content
I’m not gonna sit here and film all the percentages, but I will sit here and watch them😂😂😂😂😂😂
Stage 1 for stock engine? Need to wait for my muffler first then order cobb tuning, cant wait to see the difference 😊
Any decent muffler for a good price ?
That boyyy Dr.Strange
I have to get one! I keep saying I'm gonna wait till the warranty runs out... but I don't think I'll be able to hold out that long!
Most Subaru dealerships say it voids your warranty that’s not true. As long as you do nothing serious such a turbo or a new block
That's not necessarily true either. It basically comes down to Subaru being unable to prove that the ots tune is what caused the engine to blow or whatever issue. 9/10 times the dealership will claim that and you'll have to fight it through Subaru of america.
@@WRXGarage well idk the Subaru dealership near me said as long as it is nothing crazy. Simple bolt ons are accepted but if you come in with a new block and headers, don’t expect to have the power train warranty.
@@brendanfogel4573 same here most people just talk but have no idea how it works. They just think OMG my WARRANTY lol
@@Blake_Drago :D I have a 2020 with 3000 miles and I'm not gonna wait anymore :)
I'm just wondering but how do you get the stage 1 tune before the acessport cobb is plugged in, or did you just decide to click stage 1?
i’ll be getting into a 17 wrx, and i want to do a air intake a invidia j pipe also last but lease a crackle burble. and is a stage 1 + good enough or would i need to do a protune?
so do i also replace the charge pipe
Love your way of approach toward modifying the subie reliability.
Just have a question can I run E85 with a tune of course without any supporting mod ? No intake, down pipe, exhaust. Nothing else just an E85 and a tune
Is that possible?
Yes and no. Assuming you have a WRX, you'd need to upgrade your fuel pumps, and maybe fuel lines in order to run full e85. If you're doing an e60 blend, you could get away with only a low pressure fuel pump. I still think it's safer to add the flex fuel kit so you don't have to worry about the exact amount of ethanol and can still run pump gas if needed.
Hi please help me! I have a 2020 wrx stock. A tuner gave me a access port. I have stage 1 93 tune. The afr sensor ratio is 14.7 to 15 at idle. I revved it to 3k and the afr went to 22.3. I am waiting for a grim speed air intake so I can make it stage 1 plus. Is the afr normal?
What mods did you have on the car prior to going to stage 1? Or did you go stage 1 with all stock? Thinking about pulling the trigger soon.
Started with just the stage 1 tune, all stock parts.
I'm confused. I did the stage 1 91 octane tune and the stock tune is better. Is it possible cobb messed up the tune?
I’m thinking of getting this since I already have the big sf intake, what else does it add besides eliminating rev hang and the downshifts that you mentioned. Does it add a noticeable amount of power? If I get it I’m doing stage 1 with the big sf intake so I think that’s stage 1+
It should add around 10whp. Not sure if that's "noticeable". Powerband will definitely feel better overall though
Am I able to put a stage 1 Flash with my car? its stock and has only a Nameless Axleback and its a 2019 Subaru WRX
Yep. Stage 1 is designed for a stock car
How’s it going. Currently purchased a 2021 wrx and wanted to do stage 1+ do you recommend map performance intake w the Cobb accessport from them since it comes with there tune?
I just got a wrx, and I think an access port is the best start. It’s 650 and basically our key to upgrades
I know there are 2 "knock" relating options to monitor so I just use both fine knock learn and engine knock. Which one is more important? Is engine knock just any recorded sound/frequency that it picks up? Where fine knock learn the car makes it's own adjustments when it senses knock?
Knock feedback is a live monitor for knock frequencies being picked up by that microphone as well as the highest and lowest value seen during the trip. Fine Knock Learn is the pattern of knock that the engine is able to recognize over time, which will eventually cause the timing to be pulled back (less than 1 DAM).
How you do set up those same gauges on the access I’m stock on first menu and I can’t see my boost ratio and the other gauges
Yeah when I did mine it was all just air conditioning graphs. But I was so excited to drive I just figured meh I'll unplug and do it later :)
Good video, good mod I’m telling ya we have to meet up
Tony dm us on insta to set something up
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What is that toggle switch used for? I have one in my recently purchased WRX but I dont know what it does.
Mine is a killswitch for my amp, which I installed myself. Yours could honestly be anything. Try looking under there to track the wires!
New to the Subaru scene, can I do the stage 1 Cobb tune with a muffler delete and after market drop in air filter on my 2015 wrx?
Yes, but keep in mind that you shouldn't run aftermarket filters. The only one if ever trust is GrimmSpeed's.
Does this affect the s and s-sharp settings or do they compliment those that come with the car
I believe on the STI, the tunes from COBB will have individual settings to complement each of the settings!
Just to clarify, you don’t need any extra mods for the stage 1 right?
Nope! Stage 1 OTS tunes are designed for a stock car.
What do you mean by knock and what do i have to know?
Hello, have you had any issues with your accesport? this is my 3rd Subbie and my last STI engine went bad at 3800 miles, had stage 2+
No issues yet.. 🤞 the 5 rules to live by when you own a Subaru:
1. Oil changes atleast every 4k miles (Motul efe)
2. Don't get into boost, even a little bit, until you hit 185 oil temp. Every single time you turn the car on.
3. Only use trusted gas stations, Shell or citgo (93 if possible)
4. "Do I need a tune for..." YES. (Other than catback exhaust)
5. Get protuned or etuned as soon as possible. (Not number chasing, a strong reliability-focused tune)
*Bonus rule* don't pull from below 3k rpm (other than 1st gear)
@@WRXGarage thank you, I fucked up and put 87 octane on my subbie, just got the accesport they don't have a 91ACN yet , What should I do?
@@fermonge8296 if you cant pump it out add octane booster to it. Add more than you think or if you can the best is to use concentrated race fuel cause that octane booster in a bottle isn't the best. Cheapest thing would be to pump it out.
Stay out of the boost til that tank is done
Fer Monge lol just put 91 in next time or the next time you can.
Was there anything done other than the cobb tune to make everything smoother? Like exhaust, downpipe or anything?
In this video, no! Car is stock other than a catback exhaust. I also have a couple of shifter upgrades like the bushings and shift stop. The COBB tune did the rest!
@@WRXGarage thats good to know. i also have the bushings and shift stop and that already changed the way it felt a lot. now im trying to decide between an accessport or an intake/muffler delete in one go. i currently have the SPT exhaust and i like it but i gotta get that Remark man. so many options and not enough money
hey man can I just get the ap without going to a tuner
How long did the initial flash take? I've seen a few videos on this and no one mentions how long it takes. Thanks!
Usually 3-5 minutes I would say.
Is this traceable by the dealers if you uninstall it and set it back to stock?
yea they can see its been reflashed
Where are you guys from? I'm in Vancouver, Canada, and my 2017 WRX is about to run out of warranty in a week!! :). I think I may have to get an AP now :D
Hey Diogo! We're from CT. That's awesome!
I’m In E Van as well n Have same year can’t wait to do somthin with this beauty . More Powah 🥳✌🏽
@@janicesanderson3310 Do you have an Accessport? If you get one, make sure you go to Ron Watson for your tune...he'll make it specifically for YOUR car! :)
@@Seadog_diogo did you have any warranty claims or issues during your warranty period? I have a 2020 wrx and I’ve had an access port for 7 months that I haven’t installed lol
Eking do you still play Jinx at all?
What is a knock comparison?
What’s the fuel economy like on the stage one tune? Just curious. I think I’m going to switch to stage one+ with the new intake. I do 3-4 track events per year and don’t want to kill my reliability.
Stage 1 and even stage 1+ don't really have much effect on fuel economy when daily driving. I actually remember having a small increase in mpg because the tune pushes the torque curve higher in the rpm band, so driving around town is smoother
@@WRXGarage thanks for the reply, might go stage one this summer. It’s a great car on track, for a beginner, I did Watkins glen this year in the rain and watched a brz and a gti go off and I never had so much as a moment. I highly recommend tracking your car, it’s a blast.
Stay tuned for our videos this spring!! Going to be doing a ton of track days
My access port v3 only came with stage 1 maps and I got them from image kart racing… but yours has all these other options what do I do?!?
Go on the COBB website and download them all! They have a ton of easy to follow instructions
no intake at this point correct? just subbed.
Correct!
Did the Stage 1 OTS fix the factory power drop around 4.5/5k RPM?
Yes it shifts the entire powerband upwards
@@WRXGarage that power drop drives me nuts on my MY20…looking at options to get rid of it rather than wanting to modify for power gains
Stage 1 ots will be perfect then. That or another ots from an etuner
Been so hesitant on getting one, still got 10k for my warranty. Why don’t these come stock like this?
Epa b.s
what rock are you living under....all states and countries have different emissions regulations that only a lot so much
How expensive is this?
Are you able to hear the blow off valve whistle more with the accessport?
Our cars don't have blow off valves! WRX's use bypass valve's, which are similar is nature. But no, the AP doesn't really add too much noise in terms of the intake.
Does the gas mileage change, just considering highway driving (Cruising).?
With this, you might see a very slight decrease in gas mileage, maybe 1-2mpg highway and 2-3 mpg city.
@@WRXGarage Thanks again!
Did you have your Subie connected to battery charger while flashing your ECU or nah?
No, just make sure the battery has a good charge before tuning. Drive around for a 20 minutes or so within 24 hours of flashing the tune!
Thanks man, will do. Been watching your material for a while now. Great stuff!!
Do you need to do the other mods on car before getting Cobb access port? (To go stage 1) Like down pipe cold air intake..(etc)? Or does it not matter??
I have my 18 wrx and been so hesitant on getting it. I only need the down pipe really...
Cobb's Stage 1 tune is for a completely stock car. Stage 1+ tune is for air intake, stage 2 is for jpipe only, stage 2+ is for jpipe and intake, etc.
@@WRXGarage so I got a remark nameless exhaust, AEM cold air intake on it and I’m not sure if it will cause any damage or not
If you have an intake, you need a tune. Cobb stage 1+ should be fine.
@@Frankxyy34 When I bought my 05 WRX it came with an AEM intake. But later on I ended up selling it and buying Cobbs intake because it was supported by their Stage 1 map. Any other intake would need a custom tune.
Hello my bro how r u bro I have wrx16 I installed the access of my car so I but stage 1/91/WG my car have cat back muffler delete and POV can I use this map ?
If will happen something just let me know bro 😅
hey just a question for wrxgarage guys but is the stage one ots tune safe with no mods? thanks!
Stage 1 ots is designed specifically for no mods. So yes.
@@WRXGarage Okay! Just wanted a reliable source to say so. Thank you🤝
Absolutely 🤝
So would I be able to put a stage 1 tune on a used wrx reliably?
Yeah, I'd say that stage 1 tunes are actually more reliable than oem.
Do you need a intake for that stage 1 91 tune?
No. Stage 1 = completely stock
Do you have to change your exhaust to install the tune.
Nope!
Did the shift from 1st to 2nd improve by a lot is it not super Bucky like it usually is?
Yes it did a good amount
Ahh I see so it’s more smooth then and easier to daily?
@@jmasterhde6681 just installed stage 1, night and day difference with shifting from 1-2-3. It feels like a proper car now lol.
Damn. I'm tempted to purchase the AP. Was under the impression you needed to get the CAI and exhaust too? Or maybe I just misread.
Nope, you can install the AP on a completely stock car. You can also pair it with an intake, jpipe, and/or intercooler
@@WRXGarage do I need to get the car re-tuned if I add the cobb intake or the invidia r400 exhaust?
@@WRXGarage my '21 WRX only has 6900 miles on it but I want to make the car faster instead of making it look faster with external mods (if that makes sense). Already looking at some SA-72R (18x9.5 wheels) to fit a meatier tire and give it a flush look
The AP comes loaded with all of the different tunes available for your car. So if you start with a stock car, you flash the stage 1tune. Once you add the intake, you can switch to the Stage 1+ tune using the AP
@@WRXGarage did you wait until the powertrain warranty expired before getting the AP?
I installed my AP for Stage 1 but now notice that turbo max psi is around 5. Should I re-do it? Everything stock.
Which stage 1? There are around 10 different ones
@@WRXGarage Thanks. I don’t remember. Is it recommended to re do it?
You can look at the ap under "current map" to see
Any kind of premade tunes for an aftermarket charge pipe, inlet hose, and boost control solenoid?
No, best shot is an etune for those.
@@WRXGarage sorry for sounding like a total noob but how would I go about finding/purchasing one? I just bought an accessport online last night and was hoping it would be a quick "plug n play" solution, lol. I think I was wrong.
So an accessport is mainly for the OTS (off the shelf) tunes which are designed for specific parts (intake, jpipe, intercooler). For any parts other than those 3, there aren't OTS tunes available that are designed for them.
An etune is done by a tuner specifically for your car and your exact parts. If you watch our video called "400whp WRX" I explain the entire etune process. I'd suggest looking at Ambot or Brentuning for an etune
@@WRXGarage Thank you, you truly are the real MVP. Unfortunately, though, I feel like I just wasted $675 😕.
will it affect the tune if i remove the accessport from my car so its not gonna get stolen ?
Once you've actually installed the tune and verified that it's working after driving around, you can unplug the AP and take it out of the car if you want. Just keep in mind that the AP is now married to your car only and can't be used on any other car unless you remove the tune from yours first and unmarry them.
@@WRXGarage ah thanks big help
Are you sure you’re getting the full effect of the tune? Most of the video you are at 30mph, and you’re saying the car feels “happier”. Not being disrespectful just asking.
Does it somehow affect the engine reliability?
stage 1? I don't think so
I have a truck and two cars so I think I'll risk my warranty next month.
How has this affected your mpg?
No noticeable MPG difference! Maybe 1-2 less around town 🤷♂️
@@WRXGarage thanks!
I have a cold air intake (not cobb) and if I were to get a access port witch tune would I use ?
Ideally you'd want an etune or Dyno tune for any brand of part other than cobb. That being said, you could just run a COBB stage 1+ and it should be fine.
@@WRXGarage so I should be fine with that tune? my sti is basically stock jus a grimmspeed intake and yea dyno tune would be the smart way to go but I’m being repulsive want a access port and don’t have dyno money so it’s one or the other dyno in the future tho😅😂
If the only mod you have is the GS intake a stage 1+ tune should be fine
@@WRXGarage alright thank you Fr been doing research all day you the one person that responded and helped
Can i do this myself or i need a tune up specialist?
You can do it yourself! All built into the Accessport. Just need to follow the instructions.
What should I get first. The cobb or the exhaust?
Most people will say Cobb I’ll say exhaust so it’s more exciting to drive.
@@WRXGarage thanks for the info👍
Plus the AP voids your warranty if you still wanna keep that. I’m gonna do a catback or somethin first then get the AP later
Can I run stage 1 with a muffler Delete and resonator delete ?
Yes
So did you use a battery charger while installing?
No, that's not really necessary if you have a good battery and have been driving it frequently
@@WRXGarage thank you for the quick response. I will be installing mine tomorrow albeit it is delivered.
Is this an all stock vehicle? For some reason I was thinking that parts were going to be installed.
Yep! 100% stock. COBB Stage 1 is all stock parts. Stage 1+ is with aftermarket intake. Stage 2 is with aftermarket jpipe/downpipe, etc..
@@WRXGarage How safe is that? I just got 19 sti
Depends on what you define as "safe". In my opinion, the Cobb tune is safer than stock because you can see on the AP when timing is being pulled or if there is an issue. On the other hand, it does void warranty.. so its up to you to figure out what you value.
@@WRXGarage yeah I wanna wait until warranty is over, but I’ve heard so many stories of the block going bye bye. Yeah I have the revised ra block but... still so scary LOL
Ohhh idk if these tunes would even work on the type ra... You might have to reach out to Cobb to be sure.
how do yk what map to use ?
Each tune/map is designed for use with specific parts. Stage 1 is no mods, 1+ is intake, 2 is jpipe, 2+ is jpipe and intake, etc..
I just got a 2020. Does this void warranty?
Yes! Any accessport tune voids your drivetrain warranty.
@@WRXGarage Damn... Guess I'll have to wait a couple of years before I can do any mods then 😅
So the Cobb does void warranty??
Of course! It's a modification to the drivetrain. It really depends on your local Subaru dealership if they'll ignore it and still work on your car or not. But yes, it does void your warranty by definition.
@@WRXGarage cool thanks..
WRXGarage Subaru warranty only covers manufacture defects and issues for drive train wise anyway.
The driving gloves are hilarious
Lol they're not driving gloves theyre just winter gloves. It was cold!
What does high and low mean
High wastegate means the car is allowed to overboost to a higher psi. Normal wastegate (low) is what you should always use. High wastegate should only be used if you aren't able to hit target boost with normal wastegate tune
Hey man, would installing this void my 90k mile warranty?
How many miles are on your car now
@@WRXGarage 60k
Does is work with the 2020 wrx? Or only the Sti?
I think there's a specific product code for the 18-20 years, and also separate ones for the WRX and STI because they're different engines, but yeah!!
Correction, COBB has only released it for the 2020 sti but will probably have it for 2020 WRX soon
WRXGarage damn I just went out and bought one
WRXGarage i have a 2020 wrx
@@kevin67323 I have enough for a good down payment, and really want a wrx as my first car. Would you recommend it, a 2020 being you have one?
A year late and a dollar short lol but you think the stage 1 tune can stick with a stock STI?
The stage 1 tune will absolutely make a stock STI feel and drive better! Might not add a ton of power, but definitely worth it for the better driveability and monitoring.
Oh I meant do you think a stage 1 WRX can keep up with a stock STI that’s my bad I didn’t word that right
A stage 1 WRX vs a stage 1 STI would probably still be very similar to a stock WRX vs STI. Imo, a stage 2+ WRX would definitely be faster than a stock STI.
Oh ok cool thank you!
Greetings!! How much hp with stage 1?
There's no real way to know. My best estimation is 230whp.
It can’t tune with tgv deletes
It can't now, correct. This was posted almost 3 years ago.
@@WRXGarage before tgv deletes the Cobb was fantastic car was flying, now have to pay $900 for a retune
What's that A ccessport mount called
It's the one that comes with the AP kit
Should I do stage 1 for a axle back and a aem cold air intake? Or how would I tune my car
The intake needs a stage 1 ots tune, etune, or protune. The axleback doesn't have any effect on the engine itself.