Two Great Semi-automatic Rifles

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  • A comparison of two excellent semi-auto rifles: The Browning BAR and Remington 742.
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  • @jaiymeflores6976
    @jaiymeflores6976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Before my uncle passed he gave me his old Remington 742 in 30-06 he used it for decades without any issues. It quickly became my favorite hunting rifle, and it has served me well for over 20 years now. I deep clean it at the end of each season before it's put away. It's been with me in all weather conditions. I can't believe people have such a low opinion of it.

    • @jackdundon2261
      @jackdundon2261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes I have my dad's old 7:42 unfortunately after around 2 or 50 rounds it started Jami yes it's a great rifle and if you only shoot at once or twice a season it'll last you a lifetime if you shoot a lot no

    • @Ridendrty
      @Ridendrty ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too man ive had zero trouble with my Dads 1965 742 and neither did he. Its accurate and reliable. A deer slayer for sure.

    • @aftonm693
      @aftonm693 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My great uncle has the 742 and he's used it for 50 years, he harvest the biggest 8 point I've ever seen a few seasons ago with it, 12 inch brow tines, coke can bases

    • @gerardgoubel4169
      @gerardgoubel4169 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ne pas comparer les anciens remington et les après 2000 remington n’existe plus il s’est marché sur les pieds tout seul

    • @gerardgoubel4169
      @gerardgoubel4169 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Le seul remington que je regrette à 75 printemps est un 788 en 6mm RM des années 70😊😊

  • @stephenlamb3929
    @stephenlamb3929 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I have been hunting with my Late 1970’s Remington 742 30-06 since I was 13 years old. Now 52. Never missed a deer with it or had one run farther then 10 to 15 yards after I shot it. Very accurate! Sometimes I go years without having to make a move when I check it before season at 100 yards sight in. My son killed 2 deer with it when I thought he was old enough to handle a 06. It has never jammed on me either! Shooting deer or sighting in. And I might go a couple years between deep cleaning it! I believe I have killed close to 40 deer over the years . The gun is special my brother got in a car accident in 1978 and was paralyzed from neck down. He never got to shoot it so he gave it to me when I was 13 . Hunted first 5 years with it open sighted. Then put a 1983 Redfield low profile scope on it. Still using same scope. Probably could use upgrade on that but I’m loyal to it and I can’t bring my self to change it. Love the gun and will always hunt with it!

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Thanks Stephen - you're making my day. I received so many comments and messages how bad the 742 is! I was bewildered since I find them to be excellent rifles - no issues with normal cleaning. As I wrote before - my 6mm is supreme for accuracy.

    • @robertnegrete1827
      @robertnegrete1827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My soon to be wife bought me one, I’ve shot it a few times but it looks so darn nice I can’t seem to bring myself to shoot it. Every time I’ve shot it I haven’t had a problem with it. Im buying a Remington 700 bdl tomorrow to use.

    • @uralbob1
      @uralbob1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Man, leave that old beauty just the way she is!

    • @davidpallin772
      @davidpallin772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Stephan, you have a nice deer hunting rifle set up. Very accurate, 30.06, with a 1980’s vintage Redfield scope. They work, keep the action clean and dry, use a lubricant that doesn’t gum or thicken up.

    • @rustyshakleford9222
      @rustyshakleford9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I dont understand all the bad comments about the 742. My grandfather used one for a long long time and as long as it gets properly cleaned, the action always works fine, I myself have a 742 308. and I freaking love it

  • @JoeHardy59
    @JoeHardy59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I’ve shot a 742 for over 40 years in an ‘06. It has never failed in any kind of weather. Rain, snow well below 0 freezing temps. There were mornings when all five rounds went down the barrel w/o issue. It’s not the tack driver my bolt actions are, it killed short range and long range. A classic and great gun. I’ve never had mine jam.

  • @truspirit1925
    @truspirit1925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've had a 742 since 1978 and love it....it still looks brand new and works great.

  • @jerrysponagle3881
    @jerrysponagle3881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My Great-Great Grand Father started a hunting camp in 1957, NS,Canada.I was given a Woodsmaster 742 .308 at age 13, by then I had been hunting at the Camp with my grand parents and parents.family and friends. First deer 11, First deer and buck at age 11, I am now the oldest left in our Camp, I'm 56 now, and nobody shot more deer out of our camp than I did. Not explaining...I am just at home in wild...
    My 742 ,well as I grew...I molded to it...it is,has,and will be forever a little heavy...but the weight so helps in recoil, This rifle is my heart and soul. Plus my Grand Dad's model 70, .30.06...pre war

  • @robertpatterson3406
    @robertpatterson3406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I have several brownings and the finish on each of them is absolutely amazing.

  • @Lauterbach24
    @Lauterbach24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Have a Remington 742 in 30-06. Shot my first deer ever with it 31 years ago. It was not a tack driver, and had considerable recoil for a 30-06, but I never had a malfunction with it.

  • @ddselvig
    @ddselvig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I disassembled my father-in-law's 742 30-06 a couple years for a thorough cleaning. I had heard that the multiple locking lugs could be problematic, but found that the ones in that rifle operated very smoothly. My brother-in-law told me that it had feeding issues, but I couldn't find any. I did however note that the magazine could actually hold five rounds very tightly and cause feeding problems. The owners manual said the magazine is supposed to hold four rounds, so I when only loaded four rounds it performed flawlessly. I told my brother-in-law never to load more than four rounds in the magazine to keep it feeding correctly.

  • @captin-crane3324
    @captin-crane3324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Browning BAR was my Grand dad’s favorite gun. Shot it today. Sounded like thunder in the distance. And I felt the concussion wave. Rest In Peace Truman

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a memorable description. Good title for a book : Thunder in the Distance - maybe it has been used. Anyway, thanks for writing and that't what they can sound like - awesome.

    • @sargepepp6804
      @sargepepp6804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Dad and I both had a 742. His was manufactured about 15 years before mine. His was a much better rifle than mine too. My brother has a BAR and it's a great rifle. Rest In Peace Daddy

  • @wheels845
    @wheels845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have Remington 742 Woods master. It was my dads who used to take it deer hunting in the Adirondacks. I remember going with him when I was about 8 years old. That gun has so many memories in its spirit . Thank you for showing viewers on what a sweet gun that is. Cheers 🥂

  • @stuartleis9079
    @stuartleis9079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Good video. I've owned them both many years ago. My Remington was the 742 BDL; a little fancier version. I had some misfire, jamming or stovepipe issues so I traded it for the Remington 760 pump action. I think I liked that one better. It didn't have any of those semi-auto issues. Both in 30-06 and both beautiful rifles. Later on I purchased a BAR in 7mm Mag. To me that was the top of the list rifle. I loved the humpback style, the action, the heavy solid feel. It too, had those same semi-auto issues of stovepiping and the occasional jam. I liked your comparison because I had both and loved them. They both brought home venison and were fun to shoot. I would highly recommend either or both to anyone.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very balanced comment Stuart - I appreciate that. Like you, I find them both excellent; although many, many people have written me about how bad the 742 is - which is not my experience with them. I guess things must go wrong with some of them.

    • @gerardgoubel4169
      @gerardgoubel4169 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      En France la Bar Browning est la préférence car ne s’enrayé pas contrairement aux remington.

  • @1001CP
    @1001CP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My family has had a 742 3006 Carbine and a regular .308 742 purchased in 1960 when they came out by my dad to use to take deer on the farm and pass down the line with our other firearms. It seems the 742 is either a great and accurate rifle or something far from it. It was never meant to burn up tons of ammo as it was a regular hunting rifle. Fortunately both our rifles were very accurate and none of us 5 brothers plus dad and mom (my mom took more deer than any of us and was an amazing shot) ever had a jam or FTF/FTE. I started using both when I was 12 and I was 3rd in line so they were used every season for many years. Again though, as the season came nearer we made sure they were sighted in with a couple rounds! Then getting a few deer with maybe 6 rounds with everyone using them and that dropped off with just my younger brother and I having them to this day. They worked as designed for us all these years with no problems at all. They are in great shape with the .308 coming with the post/cross widescreen scope. It is still a fun gun to shoot, as is the '06! So I guess we were just lucky. I have been an armorer for military and police pistols, rifles, shotguns testing firearms and equipment by the manufacturers and a 30 year mil/police career. I do not hunt any more but do shoot and compete with the rifles now a part of our C&R and conflict arms family collection. The last fun shoot with my son, a US Marine Sgt and Corp firearms instructor, impressed him with the accuracy and reliability of the .308. My brother lives in AK and has the 3006 there and it still runs fine. Again, we do not run them hard and rarely even now but were among the shooters that had good results with these rifles. They were always kept very clean and lubricated also. That LONG bolt travel makes it very obvious it requires good maintenance. Anyway, my two cents and sorry others had poor experiences and glad others had positive reviews such as mine. I realize that this is a short novel response but feel it is necessary to state it worked for us through adverse conditions. No matter the outcome of use it is great that we can share our experiences here. Take care and be safe my friends.

    • @johnsavinsky5458
      @johnsavinsky5458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Draw the charge leaver all back, release, let spring chamber cartage, or use mag button,it can be very accurate , drop cartage in chamber realeace bolt , bench rest ,seen quarter moa ,use mag go to 2-4" ,soot bullet feed with mag inspect drag marks bend mag lips to feed cleanly back to 1/4" moa

  • @kevinbaker6168
    @kevinbaker6168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The line of 740, 742, 7400 and model 4 are all great guns. An excellent design. I am not saying that the BAR isn't, in fact it is very reliable and well designed. I liked how the 742/7400 had after market extended mags. A lot of people would think, why would you need ten rounds of 30-06 or 308? For a law enforcement stand point a larger capacity magazine in a caliber like the 30-06 and 308 makes a very affordable and capable swat sniper rifle. Most departments would say a bolt action is more accurate, but the locking lugs and barrel give a very accurate rifle.

  • @davidstorm5390
    @davidstorm5390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I own a Reminton 742 in 3006, bought in late 70s, never had a jam, super accurate, still use it, shot a lot of deer, never had a jam, keep it clean and lubed weedith wd40. Im 64 and it looks like the day i got it, would pick Remington over Browning.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi David - Wow! You and I are some of the few! Glad you have the same experiences with the 742 as i do.

    • @mr.rogers9319
      @mr.rogers9319 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the "wd-40" Nooooo.. I got some guns that need to be fixed. Because of rust issues WD don't stick. Maybe it works in a drier climate up North but it don't work down here in the south in the humidity.

    • @paulmoss7940
      @paulmoss7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its just bc you don't know any better. Kinda like using the WD40.

  • @stevenbramschreiber2229
    @stevenbramschreiber2229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have owned my 742(30.06) for over 40 years..STILL works like a charm

  • @bernielemke9367
    @bernielemke9367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    here where we hunt it's all about chasing with dogs and semi auto being the action of choice, Lots of 742's around , my experience is the short action 742's were not bad but most of the long action (30 o6,270 etc.) eventually all had malfunctions.NOT SO with BAR ,.everyone I ever met worked flawlessly and still does . I own a 270 BAR had it since 1976 shot lots and lots of deer , it has never ever let me down . I don't think the 742 has earned the title " great rifle" . Too many disappointed Remington 742 hunting buddies , that wished they would have spent the extra dime and bought a Browning . Just my observations over the 40 years of hunting .

    • @paulmoss7940
      @paulmoss7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100%

    • @guaporeturns9472
      @guaporeturns9472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have also heard this

    • @tomlarue654
      @tomlarue654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was wondering if it was a mag issue or not, it has 2 mags that are original to the rifle which was purchased I believe in 1974. I know the rifle has had less than 100 rounds through it though.

    • @stevendedeian7774
      @stevendedeian7774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haven't had any issues yes. Although its a bare cat to tear down and clean properly.....I also have a dated Remington 760, in .308...and have had many 700 bolts over the years, though I don't own one at the moment..,the Remington flagship..imo..is the 700bdl...and truthfully, I shoot almost daily.with nearly everything from an AKM to sks to hk91a3r, and several older bolts like a Eddystone 06 and even a R.I.Armory 1903a3..when it just comes down to burning off some 06 rounds for kicks, the 742 hacks the mission..I recently checked values on these,, being 2022, and was surprised to find a decent used one, is going for between 700 to 1100 dollars....not bad when I think I paid about 375 for mine about 4 years back...but as someone mentioned, if your receiver is shot, well,..so is the gun...becomes a wall hanger with all the stories that go with em'...lol

    • @bill45colt
      @bill45colt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      early model 742 didnt have hardened side rails,,,lotsa shooting wore them out

  • @petebentley3156
    @petebentley3156 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have 3 browning bar's,a 270,30/06 and a 300 magum.plus 2 Remington 742's in 30/06 and 308,I really like the 308 in the 742.and the 270 in my bar my 300 mag.bar is great if I'm hunting anything bigger than a whitetail deer but shoots great,my 30/06 bar well it shoots great to but I haven't shot it since 1991.i do keep it cleaned regularly.and my 742 30/06 well it was my dads and I just don't feel much like taking it out.my favorite of all is my 270 bar it has less recoil and shoots great on top of it.now my dad did hunt with my 30/06 bar and his 30/60 742 when my wife bought it for me in 1994 but then she passed away in 1991.so I just put it up since then,dad loved both guns as long as there a 30/06 hes 93 now and still loves to go hunting with me here on my farm in Virginia.but now he uses my 30. M1 carbine with a nikon buckmaster 3/9/40 scope on it,I just guess he still wants to use guns and calbers that he used in ww2.he was a Machine gun Sargent using a 30/06 Machine gun and carried a m1 carbine.i guess when you use thing to try to save lifes and yours to you come to rely on them even for deer hunting!!!!!

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Pete - Great post! So much has happened withe the people in your life and the BAR and the 742 and the different cals. As for the M1 Carbine on deer - I agree with your dad - I would have no problem hunting deer with one ; as I'm sure he knows - the distance has to be friendly and the placement right - just like all other hunting and calibers. With the 30 carbine, the scale is smaller - that's all. So many people hunt with handguns - they know what's what when it comes to range, power and placment. Thanks again for writing Pete and your dad is amazing. 93 and out after whitetails - very special and blessed. The rest of us can only hope. I'm getting my M1 Carbine out. All the best to you and your dad!

  • @stevegantt1980
    @stevegantt1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a Remington 7400 ,270 cal.and I love it.its very accurate.its never jammed.ive fired at least 1000 rounds through it. I've had it for 32 years.i wouldn't trade her for anything.

    • @TheBeStLifehomestead
      @TheBeStLifehomestead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 7400 in 270 also it was my dads when I was 12 he got me a 7400 in 243 I still have and my brother has grandpas 740 in30-06. I love them also.

  • @FantomWireBrian
    @FantomWireBrian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dad was an extreme marksman and didn't like semi autos ,but he bet his life on the M1 Grande and the 1911 in all battle situations. When he got back he did buy a Remington model 11. He was a revolver guy and bought a Smith and Wesson 357 mag and a Smith and Wesson 22 on a K frame . The popular 22 rifle was the semiautomatic Ruger . I was praying he would buy one before gun safety training. For Christmas he bought a 22 Tee bolt Belgian Browning . I didn't realize how good it was and didn't complain . I asked about why he didn't like semiautomatic rifles. He said the only one he trusted was the BAR,but when I went to buy my first high power the only thing he was interested in was a 270W bolt. The interesting thing though is that I never had that Model 11 jam and my rifle pick which he approved of was Remington model 700 bolt free floated with the Ryonite stock fully checkered with a Monte Carlo stock. A lot of luck but it killed an Elk at 500 yards, but the deadly hit was running and I could see a semiautomatic in that situation, with a Browning BAR. Dad likes the synthetic and said unless free floated that's a problem . To me no good rifle should have a wood stock. Two Weatherby bolts went off after driving from Minnesota to Cody Wyoming. Beautiful wood but terrible pattern after they moved. One Didn't hit paper at 50 yards.

  • @rjwickland6557
    @rjwickland6557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hello USOG ! Another informative video . Way back when, 1974, I had my choice of the BAR in .270 used, or a new in the box 724 in 30-06 . At that time the difference in price was $50:00 , with the Browning being of the higher price . I bought the 742, as at that time, the 30-06 was the recommended caliber for all North American big game . I had the 742 up until the late 1980's . I encountered an issue with the gun, as when fired, the bolt would lock up in the rear position, and you couldn't close the bolt . I looked into the chamber, and could see some grooves, in the slide . I had to put the tip of my knife into receiver and slightly turn the bolt, to close it . I sent the gun into Remington with a repair order . What they did, was to put a new receiver in the gun and sent it back to me . Two years later, I had the same issue with the gun . I called Remington, and was told that they no longer had receivers available, and they did nothing for me . Come to find out, the action spring was bad, and when Remington replaced the receiver, they did not replace the action spring. later I learned that action spring was an issue for many of the older 742's .So then, my gun was inoperable . Note: changes to the new 7400 . My 30-06 was extremely accurate with factory ammo, be it Federal or Remington . So, not satisfied with Remington, I bought not just one, but 4 Browning auto rifles, in 4 calibers . All used and almost immaculate . 2 1968 made in Belgium models in a MRK II .270 and 7mm Remington magnum . I also have a 1969, Belgian made 30-06 and a 1980 BAR in .280 Remington . And I've gone on to buy additional Brownings . I have an old 760 Remington in .308, ( serial number around 500,000), and a 700 in .223 heavy barrel for varmints . But, I shall not buy any additional Remington rifles .

  • @ditto1958
    @ditto1958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The bluing on the Browning is stunning

  • @matthewsprechet8022
    @matthewsprechet8022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I had that 742 in a 30 ought 6 I never had a problem with it

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thank goodness you wrote. I've never had anything but good experiences with 742s : )

    • @keiththompson7392
      @keiththompson7392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No problems with 742 if you clean it.

    • @bobthompson4319
      @bobthompson4319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Iv seen a Remington frozen shut in 3006. It was Nov in north Wisconsin and we couldn't empty the chamber for safety after the hunt. So the guy who owned the gun fired it and it worked perfectly. It ejected the empty and chambered the next one no problem. I believe it was the 7400.

    • @randyjohnson6845
      @randyjohnson6845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had it. means you dont have it anymore.i bet you didn't shoot it much.you may have got one that's 1 in 500 that didn't ever jam.but I bet yours jammed just like every other did.how many times did you put 4 in the clip and one in the chamber and fire all 5 as fast as possible? I bet zero times

    • @randyjohnson6845
      @randyjohnson6845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keiththompson7392 Keith. Put 4 in th he clip and just load and eject fast. Let them hit carpet or grass.load them with a pointed soft point.so you can see if tip of bullet comes in contact with anything. It probably with have a slight dent somewhere on the tip or just below.if it does have a slight dent that means it has nothing to do with clean or dirty chamber.it means it wants to jam.if its touching something it will build up and jam

  • @Southernguitar74
    @Southernguitar74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have two BAR's. An '88 grade 1 in .270 I acquired when I was 14 years old, and this year marks my 30th deer season with that rifle. It has been outstanding. I've been up the creek and over the mountain with that BAR, in all weathers and it has never failed me. I also acquired a grade 2 all Belgium earlier this year in .30/06. They are both outstanding shooters. The fact that they are also beautiful certainly doesn't hurt either. Another good video, sir. Thank you.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your experience reads like a Browning advertisement; great experience to relate. Thank you for sending and have a Merry Christmas!

    • @Southernguitar74
      @Southernguitar74 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I wish Browning would pay me for the ringing endorsement. LOL...Merry Christmas to you!

  • @steveconquest6684
    @steveconquest6684 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I have worked on both the BAR and 742 and have found the BAR to be a far better rifle in all respects, except that they now make the BAR with an aluminium receiver which I don't particularly care for. Some of the 742's were prone to "Remington's disease" where the multiple lugs would hit the inner top surface at the rear of the receiver and leave chatter marks. Also, if the barrel nut was allowed to back out, the lugs would not fully engage because the bolt head contained an interrupter cam that had to be depressed completely when the bolt went into battery, otherwise the rifle would not fire. At the end of the day, I'd rather have one of my bolt actions more than anything else. Just my two pence worth. Cheers, Steve

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi Steve, I agree on all counts. Based on what many owners told me over time it seems that when the barrel nut was removed or loosened for cleaning or other purposes and then tightened - but not enough - the increased tolerances resulted in the chatter. Some owners told me the "play" in the bolt head developed after they took the action apart and opened the rails that hold the bolt. Anyway, the design ought to have been able to prevent or deal with these sorts of things. As you mentioned, the new BAR has an aluminum receiver - or some models do - these sometimes shows up at my place looking very old - the anodizing having chipped away. Steel is better - but heavier and more expensive.

    • @phylliswhite4154
      @phylliswhite4154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Operator error -most all cases are caused by improper cleaning and maintenance. Also overloading of cartridges whether by accident or purposeful or attempting to make a hotter load.

  • @zh3401
    @zh3401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have both, the BAR is an exceptional rifle with superlative build, fit and finish. Mine is 300 Win Magnum. My 742 is much lighter and easier to carry in the back country. With a heavy hand load in the 308 742 I have been able to harvest Wapiti just as efficiently as the BAR.
    My 742 is a work horse, scared and beaten from years of back country hunting, fallen out of the scabbard when a horse reared up from bees, living in the rifle rack of my truck for years. The BAR is pampered, never dropped and never abused or spent a week on back country hunts where it rained every day (BC). It has never failed to perform. The Browning I am sure would have also performed under same circumstances however I paid twice as much for it and therefore I treat it differently.
    Remington reliability, Browning beauty.

    • @gerardgoubel4169
      @gerardgoubel4169 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fiabilité Browning BAR 1&2😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @speedrollrbrian1860
    @speedrollrbrian1860 6 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    BAR hands down! No contest!

  • @CrowCreekOutdoors
    @CrowCreekOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve owned both. The BAR is superior in every way. The 742s were infamous for worn rails & seized actions. A gun store owner in my area used to have a sign over his counter that said “Will pay $100 for Remington 742s in perfect condition. In other words, I don’t want any.”

  • @trumpie5399
    @trumpie5399 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The 742 is a good woods rifle but the BAR with its piston is much better and more accurate. I have had several 742 in 30-06 great gun for woods ranges. I still have my BAR from teenaged years 45 years ago. With both I use RCBS small Base sizer die. The BAR will handle my IMR 4350 @ 57.0 with 165 Sierra GK
    the 742 works best with IMR 4895 @ 48.0 with 165gr Sierra.
    Both excellent woods gun.

  • @Jagdtyger2A
    @Jagdtyger2A 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was growing up my family used the Remington 740, the ancestor of the 742 and we never went a winter without venison for our winter meals and all harvested in season. the 740 was very accurate and reliable

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Steven - I have the same experience with the 740/742 - great rifle.

  • @abcertweld
    @abcertweld 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Here is a hint if you are having feeding issues. Winchester Supreme ammo with the LubaLox coating will solve feeding issues.
    Two of my friends have the Remington's in 30-06 and they always had issues. They finally listened to me about the Winchester LubaLox coated ammo and now they have no issues with feeding.
    I hope this information helps some people.

  • @markive9907
    @markive9907 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first Bull elk I shot ,was right after a nightmare jam in a 742 wood master 280 ! 11k elevation -4 didn’t seat ,then jammed she’ll going in with shell in the injector ,dropped the clip manually put one round in .finally boom 💥! Came home sold it ,bought a300win mag model 70 33 bull elk and many mule deer later ! Never a miss or jam . Glad I learned early !

  • @jimhampton4130
    @jimhampton4130 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I own a beautiful Remington 7400 30-06. The finish is excellent. It's never jammed and is accurate within 2 inch pattern at 100 yards. I like the option of multiple magazines. I do keep my guns clean and use the best ammo. I have always wanted a Bar but could not justify the cost difference.

  • @mamanes1
    @mamanes1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have owned my 742 BDL in 30-06
    since 1973 and have never had a problem until this year! It’s never jammed or anything broken until this year! The bolt carrier cracked! I found one a used one, but parts are hard to come by! Love the gun and it shoots well!

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's my experience too Mark. I guess we're lucky. People send me letters describing their bad experiences with the same rifles. Puzzling.

  • @ryaniam22
    @ryaniam22 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love your channel because literally no one provides such depth of all the details of the rifles. Cheers

  • @ervingoertzen7233
    @ervingoertzen7233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a 742 3006 , deadly accurate, but prone for unexpected jams and I tried super cleaning, dry different ammo factory, hand loads didn’t matter, every once in a while it jammed. I owned a Browning BAR 3006, trouble free .

  • @americanmade6480
    @americanmade6480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have a Remington Woodsmaster 740, 30-06. It hasn't failed me yet. It hasn't even jammed or had any cycling issues once. I've had it for almost 10 years. I'm not sure what the difference is between the 740 and 742 is, but they look exactly the same from what I can see. I also have a Remington Gamemaster 760 in .243.

    • @tombeyer375
      @tombeyer375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      American made,
      The 742 is a semi-auto. The 740 is a pump action.

    • @stevenmiddagh6265
      @stevenmiddagh6265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tombeyer375 the 740 is a autoloader

    • @tombeyer375
      @tombeyer375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenmiddagh6265 Oops. Meant 760.

  • @bustabass9025
    @bustabass9025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had a 7400 chambered in .30-06 ever since I fell in love with my dad's hunting buddy's 742 at Michigan deer camp, back in the mid 60s. Still hunt with it today.

  • @45auto82
    @45auto82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a later model Remington 7400 semi-auto in .30-‘06, and it really works very well. I’ve taken deer and hogs with one shot every time. Also, when at the range and firing my own full power 168 grain .30-‘06 cartridges with a cold barrel I can keep 5 rounds into about a quarter at 100 yards all day, just let the barrel cool down btwn strings. I love my 7400 but I’d also like to have a Browning BAR, probly in a .308 or .270. Nice review! Thanks so much for your time.

    • @gerardgoubel4169
      @gerardgoubel4169 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Browning BAR rien d’autre ,50 permis de chasse sans problèmes 😊

  • @richnewman9186
    @richnewman9186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An old gun smith in Fonthill Ontario told me he wouldn't take a semi-auto rifle as a gift. We both shared a love for the 760 pumps. If someone that works on these rifles all the time gives you some advise, you should listen.

  • @daltongarner6393
    @daltongarner6393 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have my great grandfathers 742 in .280 and even though the finish is worn from where he held it while walking through the woods and with many dings in the stock, it has held up extremely well and still shoots good. I've never had any problems with it if I shoot decent ammo through it.

  • @joeciv1
    @joeciv1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first deer rifle was a 742. In my stand, first shot and bagged a doe. Rifle jammed. Took it to a gun smith and had it fixed. Took it to the range and it jammed again. Sold it, bought a Remington 700. Shot a lot of deer over the following ten years, and Remington comes out with the 7400. Bought one, loved it, and then upgraded. Bought a .270 BAR. Fast forward a few more years, and just bought a .300 Win Mag in a BAR. I still have my 700, but don't shoot it very much and never in the woods. I rotate my BARs.BARS.
    Turns out the 742 is famous for jamming. Bit an old member of my hunting club told me how he fixed his... he removed the plastic dust cover. That was the fix. Cost nothing, and he never had a failure...

  • @dapsapsrp
    @dapsapsrp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If you want to know which is better talk to a gunsmith that repairs guns. The 742's were not robust guns and had a tendency to shear one of more of those little locking lugs. The successor model 7400 remedied the locking lug issue but had a tendency to throw extractors. They are delicate and I can't believe Remington still produces it in some form or another. Hands down the BAR, pronounce Bee-A-Are, not bar, is superior in nearly every way except price and weight. I had a 7400 in .270, briefly, and it was quite accurate thanks to very good Remington barrels.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for writing; countless people agree with you. The Browning receives the best comments by far and is considered the superior rifle.

    • @robertboyd3863
      @robertboyd3863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns I shot a lot of hot reloads through my old Bar 06 was never an accurate gun finally the end of the bolt failed, I later had a Bar 300 mag, it jammed all the time, and was pie plate accurate, a friend has a newer one with the boss, made in Japan I believe, it's a tack driver and never jams , most of the old Belgium models were known jamamatics

    • @johndurfee5925
      @johndurfee5925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robertboyd3863 maybe true to you I have never had a jam I loaded 100 7mm magnum 139 gr nobler ballistic tip with imr 4831 over 20 years ago. I shoot one round each year at the range (sighted 1.5" high at 100 yds) zero has never changed on my Simmons 44mag scope and the 2nd round for the deer. I will admit that the last 3 yrs I have only fired 3 rounds. Had plenty opportunities but enoy the total outdoors experience and always held off till the last possible day. Asked the Mrs if she would put some of my ashes at the base of that old black spruce where I have spent so many days me and brownie

    • @robertboyd3863
      @robertboyd3863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johndurfee5925 I often shoot 20 to 50 rounds some days, my buddie had a newer Bar 300 win mag, the made in Japan I think, it was a tack driver and never jammed, another friend had an older one like mine and it was a jammer .

    • @robertboyd3863
      @robertboyd3863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johndurfee5925 If you mostly only shoot once how would you know if it would jam, when I would try to run a mag full through the 300 mag bar it would often get a failure to feed, I recall I tinkered with the mag and did help it, but still was not fail proof and as I wanted it as an AK. gun, I just could not trust it, a friend also has one of the older ones like mine was, and his also jams, another friend has a newer one with the boss, his has never failed him, and is a tack driver, I do wish I had my 06 Bar as it was a good gun, but Grandson has it now, so all is good . I shoot probably thousands of rounds a year, of assorted guns, so my odds of having one jam would be a lot higher , my favorite gun an Xbolt 300 win mag, somehow flipped the empty up , bounced back off the scope into the chamber backwards, which cost me an elk, also had the daughters 7mm-08 Savage 11 do the same while target shooting, in almost 70 years of shooting never heard of such a thing , had two differant guns do it in a couple month time span . A TH-cam video does show an xbolt 300wsm doing it . Anyway have a good day and good hunting

  • @jeffhershey3591
    @jeffhershey3591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    the Remington 7400 was a improved 742 and was a good rifle I've owned browning bars 2 both in 338 win mag good rifles all semi automatic rifles are prone to jam just keep them clean and don't use gallons of gun oil on them

    • @stevegantt1980
      @stevegantt1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mine has never jammed in over a thousand rounds.i LOVE MINE.

  • @normanmallory2055
    @normanmallory2055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good presentation. From what I have seen and fired over the years , my choice is the Browning BAR, there are 3 in the northwest. I've handloaded for two of them , never problem one.
    Remington 742 I have been around close to a half dozen or so. First thing at the range that caught my eye was jamming , I remember several that would not go through a magazine without one jam with factory ammo. For deer hunting a 3" group @100 yards will work , I seen one at the bench that didn't shoot under 5" the owner said that's the best it did from new.. The two Brownings I shot did well for a hunting rifle and semi auto by producing 1"1/4" -1"1/2" , the one I reloaded for did shoot 1" groups the other not quite.
    Well done..

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Norman - just about everyone agrees with you - the BAR is great and they have nothing but problems with the 742. I'm the lucky one who only has few or no issues with my 742s. Just luck I think.

    • @robertboyd3863
      @robertboyd3863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns I had a 300 win mag Bar, also known as jamamatics, it jammed more and shot worse than my 06 742 , A friend had a 300 Bar and it also jams, my 06 bar never jammed , but didn't shoot any better than the 742 , my 742 is an old much used gun I bought, I've shot a few hundred rounds through it without any jams.

  • @melchung1566
    @melchung1566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The rem 742, for most hunters who shoot a box of two of ammo a year, will last a long time.
    When fired a lot, however, the multiple locking lugs burr the receiver and the gun will jam, usually by staying open. Most shooters clean the bore but not the chamber. If there is corrosion in the chamber the gun will jam by not opening after firing because the fired shell is tightly held in the chamber by the corrosion. Remington and brownells have chamber brushes to prevent this.
    The later rem 7400 and 750 did away with the multiple locking lugs and had other improvements.
    But Remington discontinued the 750 a few years ago. Tools n parts are harder to find now.
    The Browning BAR always has been a quality rifle with few problems if only a box or 2 are fired annually. Hope this helps.

  • @harrisonmantooth3647
    @harrisonmantooth3647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well, I'm coming into the discussion a bit late but, I'd still like to voice my opinion.
    The only Browning firearm I've ever owned is the Auto 5 12 GA. I've owned 1911 Colts which were designed by John Moses Browning. Never a malfunction in any of them. Great designs and wonderful shooters.
    I have a Remington 742 in .30/06 that I bought brand new at the Sears and Roebuck's in downtown Los Angelas in 1965, again, never a hiccup. That rifle has taken many one shot kills at varying distances on Deer and Elk. I don't think the game animals will argue on which rifle was the nicest, prettiest or, smoothest cycling. I had meat in the freezer and, IMHO, that's what it's all about. I never went afield to impress my friends with a pretty rifle.

  • @bobstewart4342
    @bobstewart4342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 742, 308 carbine built in 67 has never failed. I'm 73 and can't walk so I don't hunt. I used it on Bear, deer, caribou , moose ,never a problem. I guess I'll sell it.

  • @Hoytshooter
    @Hoytshooter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got the 7400 nice little brush gun that you can take anywhere in the woods without getting snagged on things with the short barrel and overall size

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great carbine - I have the 742 Carbine and find it handles superbly. Mine has not jammed yet - even though so many people report jams.

    • @Hoytshooter
      @Hoytshooter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns same experience with the jam if you keep it clean I have no problems

  • @patwatson2454
    @patwatson2454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have 4 Browning BAR's 7 mag,243,30-06 and 338 Belgium models,I also have 3 Remington 742 wood Masters jam omatics 243,308 and 270 the 308 head space has been fixed several times the 270 has ejection problems,the 243 works great

  • @brianrobbins3499
    @brianrobbins3499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I have a few of the Remington 742 and they seem to be good with factory ammo especially Remington Core lok

    • @tomlarue654
      @tomlarue654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 742 in 3006 and I can’t get modern ammo to cycle. It jams. So your saying use old core lok? I will try.

    • @jackdundon2261
      @jackdundon2261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate to be the bearer of bad news for your 742 woodsmaster is simply worn out the guns will I give it two to three hundred rounds and then turn to a Jama Maddox I know I've had a couple I seen more than one time it turned into a single shot rifle you have one shot incredibly accurate Make It Count this is why they dropped the woodsmaster made the 7400 he has less locking lugs you should be better for longer this video is the first time I've got this guy in open denial of the truth.

    • @stevendonnalammar4422
      @stevendonnalammar4422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomlarue654 does it fail to feed or fail to extract? Failure to feed is almost always a magazine issue, weak spring, failure to extract is usually caused by a dirty or rusty chamber and can often be cleaned. As long as the receiver rails aren't all chewed up from the locking lugs it should be fixable. I have 2 of these rifles and the both run well.

    • @tomlarue654
      @tomlarue654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevendonnalammar4422 yes. I don’t hunt with it anymore. My dad bought that rifle in 1974, the ammo was not as hot back then. I think if you hand load it may operate better

    • @Luigi110067
      @Luigi110067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remington rifles should work with Remington ammo lmao

  • @randyjohnson6845
    @randyjohnson6845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have owned several 7400s.one in 308 and one in 3006.if you dont shoot the bullet the chamber and ejector likes it will jam.one good thing at least it wont jam on the first shot.at least it shoots once before it jams.i traded or sold both.but I did buy a 7600 carbine 3006.its 18.5" barrel. I have kept it over 25 years.it has never jammed because it's a pump.its free floated with the right bullet weight its extremely accurate. It can and loves shooting the HE high energy bullets. And 3006 light magnum bullets. I use it when it's just to dam nasty outside to take my Brownings.

  • @ryanehlis426
    @ryanehlis426 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like the Remington pump rifles and understand they are quite accurate because the bbl are free floating. Very fast follow up shots with the reliability of an 870 shotgun.

    • @javy2238
      @javy2238 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup my dad has had his for over 40 years still works perfectly, its a wingmaster.

    • @josephtutela1066
      @josephtutela1066 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      AMEN!!

  • @cbwelch4
    @cbwelch4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve always had a fascination with the Remington. Very American gun. My cousin had the pump action .30-06 for years. You can find the 742’s all over the place.

  • @jamesedwards8805
    @jamesedwards8805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Browning bar 308 for the win for many many years. Good video.

  • @kicknsystm
    @kicknsystm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought a 742 from a pawnshop unknowingly (by me) it was missing a internal part. I found out quickly at the range, thankfully without injury. I fixed it & really don't plan on selling it but, that said, I've heard stories of hunters wearing the barrel out of the BAR without any action issues. When they had the barrel replaced they obviously had the action gone through, but still.

  • @bobgarr6246
    @bobgarr6246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi brother, I thought I'd detail some first hand experience and observations on these 2 firearms. So in no particular order here we go. Back in the 70's I had both of these rifles, first the 742 and one week later the BAR, BOTH IN .30-06. Your 742 is an early model as the bolt release is on the left above the mag, it also has the steel dust cover which floats with the bolt to cover the ejection port. This is important as not long after production started this was changed as a money saver to plastic. This was a mistake and an issue. These VERY frequently broke, or fell out of their track and would bind the action. They were an easy fix as you could just eliminate it, or either order a new one or have a gunsmith do it for you. If you ordered a replacement you got more of the same, crap. If you looked into Brownells you could find aftermarket steel ones, guess which route a budding smith chose. The 742 is a heavy (er) gun, but less expensive. Magazines are/were abundant and cheap. Accuracy was between 1 1/2" - 2" MOA. OK for the rifles intended purpose. The checkering was the ugly pressed basketweave pattern and the stock, which fit well was the typical period high gloss epoxy based RTW, RKW or some such acronym I have long forgotten about thankfully, but it was a tough finish. The bolt was a 9 lug rotating bolt head design, In principal to the AR, but not quite. The gas system was robust and the forend after removal exposed it easily for cleaning. The barell had a sort of recoil lug at it's chamber end which had a threaded hole through it allowing a large bolt to go through it and then enter a massive block in the receiver belly. As tightened by the factory they are not moving. However if the need arises a not so cheap spanner can be purchased that with some strength and patience can overcome the locking compound and the torque applied by Remington. The fire control group is easily removed with the same set of push" pins as on other Remingtons, as the trigger group and fire control are the same as on the 760 series, the 870, 1100, 11-87 and so on. They are, once understood, easy to work on, adjust and fix if damaged. As a Smith this is a definite plus. All in all not a bad gun, it's robust, well designed, accurate for purpose, has positive extraction and strong ejection and has more than adequate lockup. I think the older models are the better of the breed, especially for aesthetics
    As for the Browning they were originally made in Belgium, a plus. Then they were made in Belgium and assembled in Portugal, as is mine. The fit and finish are outstanding. These are highly polished blue and the typical Browning highly lacquered finish which is their proprietary coating. The action is a bit smoother than the Remington but that's likely due to a more detailed QC and attention to detail. The same 9 lug rotating bolt head style is used, the gas system and the action itself are more complicated and besides having more parts and being more complicated there is a nylon type buffer at the rear of the receiver that must be watched over time to insure it is intact and has not degraded. If it is then your bolt will abuse the rear of the receiver until it cracks, or worse. The trigger is, in my opinion not that great. I didn't like the feel. The best I could shoot was on average at 100 yds 2 1/2" to 3". Kind of adequate for deer but not impressive. It seemed to like Federal Gold Medal 168gn BTHP Match. Both rifles mounted Lupold Vari-X 3, 4-12X scopes. Now for my big complaint, The magazines cost a fortune, if you can still get them as these rifles were succeeded by next generation variants which did not incorporate the same mag style ! Secondly, The mag being attached to the floorplate, WOW! What a great idea, I can't drop or loose it... right? Well I've had several come by me that while the floorplate was open in the down position with the mag attached, either the gun fell, it shifted while one ones lap or had popped open and caught on something. And guess what? It is aluminum, and when any latteral force is put on its open hinge system it just shears right off. Now, knowing that the Browning was nearly twice the price of a mid 1970's 742 what do you think the mag/floorplate assembly cost? You could have bought a Marlin model 60 for that price. This design would work fairly well on a safe queen, but on a working hunting rifle it is a very poor design indeed. The only other plus that the original BAR had was a chrome lined bore, this did help in cleaning and when cooking up new loads using a dirty burning powder. Hope this helps. Thanks for your work, be safe and healthy.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is an amazing post Bob. You should write for a gun magazine. I like everything you wrote. Those metal or plastic Remington bolt covers! What junk! I fired once and the cover flew out the ejection port with the empty - I still can't figure out how that happened as they are "trapped" - but I guess things happen. The BARs I see at the range are just as you reported - sometimes amazing accuracy and mostly 2 or three inch groups - "minute of whitetail" for sure though. Also - just as you say - the Browning design has many and interesting parts. Too many - but they work together ; so it goes. The mags should be cheaper. Thank you for taking the time to write! Very informative. All the best!

    • @bobgarr6246
      @bobgarr6246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns thanks for the kind words. Firearms have been a part of my 65 years for roughly 57 of them. While other kids were reading comic books I was engrossed in Small arms of the World and Guide Book for Marines. I personally find it easy to write about firearms Not only due to my first hand experiences and smithing, but because after reading American Rifleman, Gun Digest, Shooting Times, Guns and Ammo, Shooters Bible, Jane's Defense, Gun Tests, Rifles Magazine and so very many other publications and a massive accumulated library of firearms related books one eventually gets the feel of how the gun scribes write. After that you just go with the flow and draw on the information stored in your brain and what you have learned to become a smith and more importantly what you have learned doing smithing. Whether by solving a problem, or by making a mistake, and we have all made them! The question is.... How do you correct them? I had an instructor tell me... You can't learn unless you try to fix a firearm, and you WILL make mistakes... Its just better to do so on other peoples guns and only work on your own when you are totally proficient! I was never sure how serious he was, but time has shown me that it's not a bad philosophy!
      If I can ever help you out, or you have a question, I'd be glad to help. if you just feel like talking guns I'm up for that also. I have to say I really enjoy your varied content, some truly interesting firearms. A lot of memories there. I recently came across a .30 - 40 Krag Jorgensen Calvary Carbine, do you have any familiarity with them? You have a huge leg up on me being computer and tech savvy. I'd love to see you do a piece on them. Now if I can only find an original bayonet for it without the wife knowing I had to hock her jewelry, LOL !
      Take care and stay safe.

    • @robertboyd3863
      @robertboyd3863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You nailed it, I replaced one of those worthless plastic covers, it lasted a box or so of shells, when the first one went to pieces it jammed behind the bolt, screwing everything up , so now I just left it off , I also never liked the drop down mag on my bar's .

  • @harryballsonya5347
    @harryballsonya5347 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just fantastic! I love the sounds that steel and wood rifles make just when you handle them. Beautiful guns sir

  • @DFox-ud3gx
    @DFox-ud3gx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Old Browning's rule they bring top dollar always

  • @ottoandhanzblack2175
    @ottoandhanzblack2175 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought a Remington 7400 .270 brand new from Bass Pro Shops and am very happy with it. Have shot many deer with it over the years and have never had any problems with jamming,etc.

  • @nomotto3260
    @nomotto3260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I own the Browning and is the best rifle I ever owned. Though I can't shoot it anymore, I will keep it till I die. I owned a lot of rifles and the Browning was King. Winchester was second. As far as shotguns, Franchi was the best. Owned 3 beauties and sold them for 10 times, what I paid for them.
    The etching and engraving was second to none.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have a very fine collection. Many people love the Browning.

    • @nomotto3260
      @nomotto3260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you. I was very fortunate. Now, I buy handguns, which I can shoot from a wheelchair, or if I am able to use a walker, I can lean against the wall. I squeeze rubber balls at night and do curls with 5 lb. weights, every other day. Getting better, each time I go to the range. I love shooting and when I was young in Quebec, I won my share of skeet shooting tournaments.

    • @alundavies8402
      @alundavies8402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nomotto Well done Sir!

  • @petermurdoch3001
    @petermurdoch3001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just changing the subject, a few months ago someone i knew through a couple of shooters/Hunters, had 3 30-06's and semi-auto 12g he wanted to sell, turned out to be a decent price, he dropped by put the 4 firearms on my work bench, i counted out the bills, and he thank me over and over then left, turns out to be a Winchester 70, Cooey 710, both bolt action, and a Remington 760, Pump action 30-06, an infamous rifle to be sure, 12g was an Excel, good deal for both of us

  • @pauls466
    @pauls466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a Remington but I love the quality of a Belgium Browning .

    • @claytonpegram6035
      @claytonpegram6035 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remington 742 is the wood master is that correct

    • @rhondablack94
      @rhondablack94 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@claytonpegram6035 yes it is

  • @dalanwanbdiska6542
    @dalanwanbdiska6542 ปีที่แล้ว

    My brother passed away last week. I have 3 of his guns now, 270 browning bar 1970 belgium made , 303 british m1910 Ross , chinese sks with 500 bullets. He has a hawke scope on his BAR and Ill be setting it for 300 yards for the fall hunting season and also I had to reset his sights on his Ross and his SKS has a vortex reddot that will need a 35 yards zero. Im refinishing his Ross rifle stock as it was dry with no finish, only a layer of stain. Cant wait for this fall time to go out hunting.

  • @johnfila6480
    @johnfila6480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the remington feels like a better handiling rifle when you put it up to shoot

  • @briant7652
    @briant7652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Found a used BAR at my local store. I'm going to pick it up tomorrow. Beautiful gun!

    • @Firecondor8
      @Firecondor8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How was the used bar ?

  • @georgecates9538
    @georgecates9538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the Remington 742

    • @LoneWolf-cf5tp
      @LoneWolf-cf5tp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Until they start jamming. I own 3. The only one that doesn’t jam is the carbine because it’s still mint.

    • @BudgOutdoors
      @BudgOutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoneWolf-cf5tp clean them then lol

    • @LoneWolf-cf5tp
      @LoneWolf-cf5tp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BudgOutdoors They have been cleaned, unfortunately their worn out

    • @BudgOutdoors
      @BudgOutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LoneWolf-cf5tp if they're really beyond saving, that really sucks man

  • @lens7859
    @lens7859 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brings me back to my youth gazing at my uncle’s rifle’s

  • @oldgoat1890
    @oldgoat1890 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I worked on guns a long time. Probably half the problems brought to me were owner caused/related ("A relative took it apart"). About half of those involved cheap ammo and reloading. I dunno, over a million sold? They can't be all bad.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My experience is the same. Too much disassembly; too much cleaning and oiling and fiddling with triggers; smoothing bolts; "improving" checkering"; "glass bedding" - re-barreling for mysterious reasons...and on and on.

    • @roscoestark1092
      @roscoestark1092 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MUST KEEP THE 742 CLEAN , THATS THE SECERT ..

  • @emanennis8992
    @emanennis8992 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad had a 742 and a BAR both chambered in 243 the BAR has had 7 cases 10 boxes in a case shot threw it between coyote and other varmints plus deer it still works great the 742 is now a wall decoration but he owned it 12 years before I was born and I can't remember how many shells have went down the barrel the action is so loose you can wiggle the bolt by pushing it but a light down the barrel you can see we're rifling use to be guess what I'm saying he liked the Remington more because of how much lighter it was

  • @subterfusion4005
    @subterfusion4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Remington auto is actually a clever conversion of the pump action 760 which preceded it to market. The 760 is probably the finest deer gun, pure whitetail gun, ever made

    • @BudgOutdoors
      @BudgOutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Grew up watching dad make some shots with his 7600 in 30-06 that looking back, that lil rifle had no business making and it had absolutely no problem doing it

    • @josephtutela1066
      @josephtutela1066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 760 30-06 is my workhorse bring home the venison go to. That rifle outshot many of my friend's bolt guns. Thank you for an EXCELLENT vid!

    • @waltershoults8803
      @waltershoults8803 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just love mine , made in 56’ and it’s a dead ringer everytime 🔥💯

  • @Torqd_Off
    @Torqd_Off 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Remington looks to be almost an exact copy of the pump gun with the same action, magazine and magazine release, the Remington 7600 & 760… I don’t have much knowledge of the Browning but recently I was on their website and was surprised to see that they still manufacture the BAR and the BLR. What got me really excited about that was the calibers they offered… I’m particularly fond of the 243 & 270, both of which they offer

  • @bobscruggs8886
    @bobscruggs8886 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I purchased a 742 in 1973 it was displayed on a wall rack a craftsman gunsmith had finished it in a gorgeous dark blue and a fancy black walnut stock and forearm it cost about $ 450 which was a high price at the time but I fell in love with the look.
    After mounting a decent scope I took it to the range to sight in it was the worst rifle I have ever owned after taking it a part the nut under the forearm was oversized with the threads so the barrel could not be tightened even a gunsmith said he would have to order a new barrel and do other work to get it right even then at best I could expect 4 inch groups well I quickly traded it in for another Ruger M77.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Such a pity. I was hoping for a happy ending. At least you ended up with the great 77.

    • @roscoestark1092
      @roscoestark1092 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I GOT MY 742 FROM SEARS FOR 138.00 BACK IN 62 ..

  • @johnoliver4739
    @johnoliver4739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently got a Bar II Safari 300 win mag, absolutely love it. Was too good a price to pass up.

  • @glennfalzo3718
    @glennfalzo3718 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My cousin has the 742 in 30.06, great gun, I have the BAR in 30.06. Love them both. I prefer the BAR for finish and the exta weight helps even more with recoil. It is more weight to carry in the woods though compaired to my Riger m77 markII. LOVE that Ruger except for the recoil, at 63 years it hurts more than when I was younger. Thats why I purchased the BAR.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're right - the BAR is so well made. A friend of mine has one in .243 - what a sensational rifle : almost no recoil and everything he shoots is flattened...something about that .243 and shot placement from a fine rifle. Thanks for writing.

  • @rjwickland6557
    @rjwickland6557 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a new in the box Rem 742 in 30-06, back in 1974 . I shot 36 deer with it . Then I started to have the " chatter" . then it got to the point where when I fired the 724, the action would lock the bolt in an open configuration . Looking at the rail in the interior of the receiver, there were small grooves in the rails . We tried to flatten them out with a small brass punch . When we tried to fire the gun again, same issue with the bolt locking the action open . Sent the gun to Remington . They put a new receiver in, at my cost of $200:00, and told me the issue had to do with a weak recoil spring , as well . So that was replaced as well . I got the gun back and used it two more years, when the original issue started all over again . I sold the 742 as there were no more replacement receivers available . Well, it seems the 7400 was being designed as a replacement, to correct the " chatter" issues . I now own 4 Browning BARs . 3 are 1st year production, with the M69 designation in the serial number . The calibers are; .270 Win, 30-06 Sprgfld, and 7mm Rem mag . And I own a newer BAR in .280 . Although in a hunting situation, to change magazines quickly, the Remington is faster than the Browning, with the hinged floor plate .

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for an excellent explanation of this problem. I should make a new video. Thanks again for taking the time.

  • @sartainja
    @sartainja 6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I own both rifles. The Browning is far more accurate and reliable.

    • @edwardosborne8836
      @edwardosborne8836 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jeff Sartain how much better does your Browning shoot

    • @pitty212
      @pitty212 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      i have hunted with both rifles,mod 742,7400 in remington,bar 1,safari mk 2,short track,i have found the browning way more accurate and reliable,i have had jams with the remington but never the browning,the browning is heavier,i found the remington more pointable and nicer to carry,but for me the browning is the better rifle,thats why i own one now,my 2 cents worth

    • @edwardosborne8836
      @edwardosborne8836 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pitty212 what was the moa on Remington vs browning

    • @pitty212
      @pitty212 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 1/2 inch remington,1 inch and under for browning,both are more than enough for hunting

    • @pitty212
      @pitty212 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      all depends on ammo,scope and ring set up,etc...

  • @missionplatinum
    @missionplatinum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 742 was bought from the old TGY for $140.00 brand new. I have over the years shot a dump truck load of deer with it. I have shot deer running and my ex wife also shot one running. Even though it is a semi-automatic, the gun has never been fired twice at a deer. ALL 1 shot kills. I never had a misfire or jam and the only problem I ever had was with 110 grain bullets and it cycled so fast it pulled a chunk of the shell rim off during ejection of spent round. I have Winchester 70’s, Voere, and Sako rifles but the old 74deuce is my go to gun!

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for writing; so many people wrote in with harsh words about the 742. Nice to hear from someone else like me who only had good experiences with the 742.

  • @nukeblue
    @nukeblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm late to the pahty but I really appreciate this review and many of the others though I rarely comment more than a thumbs up. 👍

  • @jamesbarrow9638
    @jamesbarrow9638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just came across your vid....have both rifles (well my son has the Browning) both in 30-06 and to tell the truth I wouldn't carry that heavy Browning and is why I gave it to my son. My 742 is a carbine and have had it since 1979....the only time I had any trouble at all is when I shoot Remington ammo. It would jam and snatch the rim off the cartridge, after inspecting it could see that the brass was engaging into the rifling....when I stuck with Winchester or Federal ammo didn't have that trouble. Measures the casing and the Remington was just a few thousands longer. Anyway....love my 742...short easy to handle and point and have killed many a deer with it. Just a couple years back got a 742 in 308....nice gun but really hadn't done more than sight it in....just love the 30-06 to much!

  • @redneckmini14
    @redneckmini14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love those old Remingtons. The Browning is too expensive for my taste.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A lot of people love their Remingtons (at least the way they used to be made)

    • @jeffreyelliott622
      @jeffreyelliott622 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns I inherited my papas Remington 742 Woodsmaster in .243 cal. and is still in excellent condition in the wood gun cabinet now !!!! I believe he bought it back in the 80's along with his Remington 1100 which I got also and I've added a 10 round extension mag tube to hold 9+1 !!!

  • @Themikeandstacey
    @Themikeandstacey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have not ever shot the Browning but I own a 742 and have shot several of them. Mine is a 3006and you would think that the recoil would be awesome. Nothing could be further from the truth. It has been the first kill gun for many of my nephews and even my 12 year granddaughter. I have a lot of confidence in this rifle.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are fantastic rifles Michael - as you're experience shows. I tried to buy a .243 BAR recently - before I could get back to the store - it was gone.

  • @OnTheFritz602
    @OnTheFritz602 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had a 742, and hated it for various reasons.
    Called out at the range by the Range Master because I yanked the magazine and the action was closed before heading downrange to set up targets. Saw it coming, and immediately stuffed in my empty magazine to keep the action open.
    Have a 760 now for hunting, and love it! Same lock-up, but totally controlled.

  • @kennedy6644
    @kennedy6644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got a Remington 7400 in .270, year after year it gets the job done. Wouldn't trade it

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You and I and a few others - I never had a problem.

  • @a.d.allbritton9233
    @a.d.allbritton9233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Remington 742 was/is known in my hunting circle as "Jamomatics".

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's true A.D. - they are called that by a lot of people - and here on the channel too. I've been so lucky with mine - rarely a problem - if ever. Oh well...plenty of other guns to choose from. Take care.

    • @randallrobinson3448
      @randallrobinson3448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've owned two and both were pron to jam so I washed my hands of them and replaced them with a BAR and a model 100 winchester

    • @tombeyer375
      @tombeyer375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My dear late father-in-law had a 742 in .30-06 and always had trouble with stovepipe jamming. He still toughed it out and shot deer with it. Still prefer the old 740 myself.

    • @CrowCreekOutdoors
      @CrowCreekOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randallrobinson3448 I’ve never heard a negative word said about the Winchester model 100.

    • @rockie307
      @rockie307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I changed the name of my 742 woodsmaster to jammaster

  • @egrandmaison
    @egrandmaison 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good unbiased review sir. Thanks for another good video!

  • @kwcearley7
    @kwcearley7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have owned 2 -7400's .308 and .243 both shot ok until the 3rd or 4th round then the pattern would get wonky as the barrel heated up.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is interesting and I've heard that from others. My guess is that as the barrel heats up the section forward of the gas block heats at a different rate from the barrel section back of the gas block and under the forearm. The sections should equalize again when they reach the same temperature. Just a thought - but the physics would be about right. So I guess I'll either shoot once or about 8 times to get really fine accuracy : )

    • @michaelratliff905
      @michaelratliff905 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yessir, barrel is too thin for more then 2,3 rnds, their not military grade, gotta let em cool down, bolts do better, but they get hot too

    • @thatsmytwocents4372
      @thatsmytwocents4372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have never had that problem and I have 2 of the Remington’s, both of them 30.06, one from 1952 and one from the 60’s. Love them both and have taken many, many deer with them both !!! Oh, and btw, if I put 3 rounds on a target, heck, I’ll even say all 5 shots, I can put all 5 of them touching on the paper. So don’t tell me this barrel heats up after 2 shots. That is absolutely not true !!! These rifles are the only firearm period that I have ever taken deer with and I have even taken small game with them when I struck out on the deer and every rabbit and squirrel was taken with a head shot so I didn’t spoil any meat. I would trust my life to these rifles even tho I also own an Aero Precision AR 15 556 and a Windham Weaponry AR 10 in 308. These may not be a BAR, but they are GREAT rifles and as old as they are, I just oiled them up for another deer season. Wouldn’t want to be without them. The 1952 30.06 was my Grandfathers. It has a side mounted Swift 2.5 to 8 X scope so you can still use the irons and my Fathers 30.06 from the 60’s, he thinks from 1963. When my father gave me his rifle he had a Bushnell 4X scope on it that was raised so you could also use the irons. I replaced it with a Bushnell 3 to 9 X with a 40 mm bell which negated being able to use the irons due to the bell size. While I miss being able to use the irons I have never missed a deer because of it and I have kept my freezer full each hunting season for almost 10 years now. I love these Remington rifles and would not hesitate to buy another in another caliber to add to my collection. Thank you USOG for your posts. I found you because I was looking for other people who also enjoyed the Remington Gamemaster Rifles and you come up quite frequent. I love your info on these rifles and I subbed the first time I watched the video that came up. Thank you for all you do !!! You seem like an Engineer or something in that line by the way you speak of the rifles and your knowledge of their workings. Love your videos !!! Insurance Guy

  • @davidleblanc7445
    @davidleblanc7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought one when I was 17 years old now I'm 68 I worked up some reloads and it shoots 2" groups All day long a lot of people don't like them I love mine

  • @rickbattle5706
    @rickbattle5706 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very informative. I learned about semi-autos I did not know about. Thanks! Well done. :-)

  • @radamson1
    @radamson1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had several Remington semi-auto rifles. They all jammed like crazy except for a model 7 in 300 Rem.

  • @tatermorgan6559
    @tatermorgan6559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Remington down here is known as a “jambington”. I had one and the darn thing only jammed when i needed the follow up shot.

    • @bigbossman3987
      @bigbossman3987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know why they do that !??
      It’s not the gun, it’s the clip that makes them do that.
      Over time the clip gets put in & taken out of the gun a million times. Because of that the little ears on the clip that holds the cartridge in the clip gets bent over the cartridge to much. When that happens it makes the gun jam because it’s not releasing the spent cartridge right because of those ears on the clip being bent over.
      Fix, get a pair of pliers and bend those ears on the clip back up like they’re suppose to be. If you do that, that will fix the jamming problem !!!

    • @brianrobbins3499
      @brianrobbins3499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigbossman3987 so does that really work because I love the Remington firearms

    • @aaronplatt142
      @aaronplatt142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All my friends call my gun a JAM-O-MATIC but has never jammed....

    • @BudgOutdoors
      @BudgOutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aaronplatt142 yep, all ya got to do is keep it clean and don't over-oil it and it runs fine. Assuming the magazine is ok

    • @michaelratliff9449
      @michaelratliff9449 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BudgOutdoors Bingo!..You got to Clean these Remington 7400, most people don't know how to clean these automatic hunting rifles, I buy them because people shoot them and never learn how to clean these and they jam..I clean them and resell them...business is good too!...Thanks y'all!..

  • @paradiswest4395
    @paradiswest4395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have my Grandfather's Remi 740 Woodmaster .30-06 I love that gun.

  • @thomasjay1145
    @thomasjay1145 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love my remington 742 woodsmaster it's killed a lot of deer it has never jammed the only problem I have ever had was the clip fell out a few times I love my Browning more because it has never malfunctioned I hunt with a 7600 pump 30 06 now and love the accuracy there is nothing wrong with remington for hunting period if I wanted to shoot the center out of a bullseye instead of a dear I would use my kimber but for hunting these guns are some of the best ones and if you have either one your doing ok in my book

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Thomas! So many people with terrible things to say about the 742 - yet I have no issues with them. I may be lucky - but not that lucky for that long. The Kimber is in a different league though - you know.

  • @ravenfeather7087
    @ravenfeather7087 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 742 carbine that I bought, if I remember correctly, in the late 60's. I shot a running doe at about 100 yards late one deer season and hit it twice in chest. I had to get back to college so I gave it to my brother to cut up. He found the two holes were about an inch apart and figured from that point on that I could really shoot well! With a 4 power scope it really was a nice Wisconsin woods rifle. And fun to shoot.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great shooting Raven! Those 742 Carbines are sleepers - unbelievable fast and capable of delivering a lot of foot pounds in short order. Thanks for the note.

  • @702havingfun
    @702havingfun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like that browning 👍

  • @shawnhulke7385
    @shawnhulke7385 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have owned both. Still have a grade II browning 30/06. Love it . Unfortunately I had to sell my Remington. Sad day. But I still have a rem model 14 in 35 rem. Lovely old rifle with action as slick as butter.

  • @nephisilver3051
    @nephisilver3051 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I'll take a brownie over a Remington any day of the week

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Most people agree with you : ) - apparently the Remington is gone with the wind now.

    • @larrytoston1566
      @larrytoston1566 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes me to

    • @bobgarr6246
      @bobgarr6246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okay, why? What is your reasoning, from a design perspective. Are you talking the original BAR, or the MkII variant, magnum, Safari? I'm curious as to your view as I've owned and worked on both and have become quite familiar with their design, function and repair. My best answer is the Browning looks better, the original. But costs way more and does not shoot as well. The Remington 742 series shot better, was more robust, has an easily accessible and fixable trigger and fire control group that is used and proven in a host of Remington rifles and shotguns. And a easier to maintain gas system, The Browning is more likely to foul and seize up likely due to piston design and tolerances. So while I love the look of Val Brownings design, I prefer the design of the Remington. Probably why I had gotten both back in the day. How about you?

  • @rickstanick7616
    @rickstanick7616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had mine brand new in 1970,s . Jammed first time this year, need to take it to a gun smith

  • @inthemountainswithmeachum3256
    @inthemountainswithmeachum3256 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like the fact that they left that lip on the receiver on the Browning that's what makes a Browning that's part of its look and I love that I think it looks awesome the 742 was never a very good gun in my opinion the 7400 I've owned and that gun was a great gun carbine version I owned and I did love it I wish I never sold it now I own a Browning 300 WSM BAR and its an awesome round and equally impressive rifle

  • @mustang06gt41
    @mustang06gt41 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have my grandfathers browning bar 1 .308 luv that gun very accurate!

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great rifle to keep Fred.

    • @sog4646
      @sog4646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I recently got a belgium bar in . 308. I also have my great grandfathers belgium bar in 30/06.
      Pretty sure neither will go anywhere, at least while i'm alive.

    • @mustang06gt41
      @mustang06gt41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sog4646 same here!! Won’t go anywhere while I’m alive

  • @roberthaibi2304
    @roberthaibi2304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 742 fires nicely.I understand that when these lugs wear out the gun is done .No fixing it. I only put like 50 to 100 rounds a year through it. This rifle as old as it is cant handle thousands of rounds through it . But it is a tack driver . and it is beautiful gun. I'm sure the Browning is superior .I baby it .

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're right Robert. The Rem. is not for volume firing - but as a hunting rifle - I've never had a problem.

    • @williamlaws2353
      @williamlaws2353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Receiver gets grooves from the locking lugs. Some guns are fine many are not