A week after i proposed to my girlfriend she told me: "Marriage is based on trust, so you wanting a prenup means you don't trust me. Marriage partners should be equal" I replied: "Give me one good reason why should i sign an agreement that can only benefit you and can only be damaging to me in the event of a divorce. Marriage is between two people and it's in no way a given that both will feel the same way decades or just years from now." She got mad enough that i got suspicious she cared more about money than me, and even though she then said a prenup is ok, i decided not to tie the knot too soon, and it didn't take long when i started to notice a change in her behavior whenever we talked about money so i left her and not long after that i found a great girl and we have been happily married for 8 years.. With a prenup.
Excellent video. Respectfully 41% of first marriages end up in divorce and majority of those 59% are your grand-parents and parents that stayed together. The statistics are way way worst than that. Between 2007 to 2017 only 6% of those that married in 2007 (regardless of first second or third marriages) were still married 10 years later. That is 1 in 16. Uncle Sam hide these numbers since they are catastrophic with number games like 1st 2nd and 3rd marriages comparison...bla bla since the population is aging rapidly and the real numbers can be fixed that way. People dont have the slightest idea until they socialize a lot and notice that majority f the people are divorced at least once. You get married today and your chance to be divorced within the first 10 years is 94%...based on the 2007 to 2017 date...but interestingly Uncle Sam stated that divorce rate became worst with covid...so go figure. He should mention that prenups can be challenged and cancelled in many states upon the divorce by the other side lawyer.
After 17 years, my wife who is the love of my life, had to leave due to mental health. I couldn't do it anymore. And our pre-nup saved me. She never worked. I made a fortune working hard. built multiple companies. Thanks to that prenup, the ball is in MY court. Listen to PBD gents!
Do you have kids? Did she go through a pregnancy and kid-care-taking in which a professional career becomes distant? If so, she went through all of that, with you going on with your life without sacrifices? You are now in a way better position than her at divorce-time.
I truly believe there’s nothing wrong with a prenup in a healthy marriage. If nothing happens with the couple, then it’s literally not gonna change anything.
@@jasonolinger7585 you get tax benefits, prenup protects you from other party to legally steal from you. Nowadays prenups gets thrown away so marriage is a horrible deal
Well it does change on how do you split payments during the marriage, if I know we won't share in the future I will rather make my husband pay for his stuff while I save my money. If we know we will share everything then we can also share what we have now without worrying too much who is paying for what.
I’m a Christian and married a young girl from my church in LA when I was 23 (& pastoring a church there). 13 years later, people change over time, she shocked me with a nasty divorce. She’s a dedicated Christian with blogs and videos talking all the typical super-Christian “anti-divorce” narratives… but funny how people act when things get stressful. They never tell you on your wedding day: “I just want you to know, when things are stressful down the road, I’m going to become the most irrational person you know, come after your money, & screw the kids”. Lol Prenup is the only logical way to go now a days. Remember, marriage is sadly a business investment to most woman - it’s a “come up quick” arrangement to many. Remember: 80% of divorce are started by woman, but 90% of the monthly payments paid out go from the man to the woman. Another great option that has gotten popular is to just not get married with the state and only in your church. Most states have “dual dwelling” laws now so you still get the tax benefits. Ask a lawyer but it’s really becoming popular.
Matthew 6:19-21 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Prenups are never upheld in Canadian courts and I suspect US courts find many ways to invalidate them as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but prenups provide nothing more than a false sense of security and are promoted to fool the higher income earner. Courts and lawyers always want their take. It's so corrupt, I immediately lose faith in anyone that promotes marriage knowing full well the result is certain lifelong servitude. I still like PBD, but my advice is: don't marry, don't cohabitate. At the very least, talk to 20 people in your jurisdiction that have been through divorce etc. and can speak freely and honestly before you make any lifechanging decisions.
So many women go to church to find their lottery ticket. It was never about marriage. Divorce is often the goal. If you want to know the intent, look at the results.
@@csn10 Some good points for sure man. In the US, this varies by state but overall prenups are not 100% bulletproof but they do show intent, draw a lot more clarity in the relationship as it starts, and courts usually strongly consider them. Its a contractual agreement and it does carry some weight for sure in a lot of states. And believe it or not, all the ones I've ever seen (maybe 7 or 8) were originated by the higher income earner who's trying to protect themselves should the other person become a gold digger later on.
I asked my now wife of 8 years to sing a prenup before we marred. She asked why we needed it. I told her 100% of all of our previous romantic relationships for both her and I did not work out over time. So, with both of us failing 100% of the time we need to understand it's possible to fail again. She singed and we marred. In 8 years, she has never even said a bad word to me and we have not had any fights. She has her responsibilities and I have mine and we work together against the world instead of each other. I don't know if it would be the same without the prenup. Its so easy to quit on marriage in the modern world.
@@askdomisset as a single man I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little jealous. But I’m trying to have faith in God and have Him be all I need. That said, I do not understand the point of your question. Please elaborate.
having clear consequences established or making wrongdoing not worth it helps keep people on the true path. its not her, its just the way people are, 1% of people wont rob an unlocked house, 98% only stay out cause there is a lock, 1% will rob the house regardless, divorce initiated by women is high because there are no consequences but incentive to do so, if the roles were reversed it would be the same for men.
😂 a wise man once also said there's an invisible man in the sky that answers all prayers and millions followed him simply cuz they believed he was a saint when he was nothing more than a conman. Centuries later the same meaningless teachings are used to DupeThe masses. Case in point Kenneth Copeland lives on 8 million dollar tax free estate and now owns a private luxury jet. This mf makes millions and lives a lavish life Bernie madoff could only dream of. In fact he's not the only one operating this type of racket. A wise man once said if it seems too good to be true chances are it is. Marriage kids and family is fkn stupid meaningless waste of time. Humanity truly is a parasitic cancer on earth. The planet needs less of us not more and since marriage and family is mainly there for the purpose of insuring successful breeding it serves nothing else except survival of the human species. It's infinitely easier to fk a whore or jerk off and go to sleep than waste time raising kids only to find out the kid became a school shooter, Hitler, Stalin, Ted Bundy,Jeffrey dahmer, a crooked judge corrupt politician etc. Fk that! Not to mention the constant screaming arguing and fighting that goes on in the house while kids grow. who needs all that stupid aggravation? F prenups f marriage n f kids! I ain't sharing f all with anyone except me 😌
That's some bullshit right there. The whole point of a contract is that you are not friends when it comes to a business partnership. So why do you need a marriage contract. Taxes, children, etc. Not because your friends. But because it's a business arrangement with liability concerns. Marriage is an archaic institution. In reality, anything that fails half the time is typically considered unreliable.
Why would attorney’s be angry? You’re suggesting they’re angry the way you formulated your post. The lawyers are protesting bc they’re advertising to get new clients. Stop using Newspeak and saying the opposite of what you mean.
This was good. I always hated when I heard about prenuptial. Then I got divorced after 30 years. Luckily my divorce was very reasonable. I kept the house, she got the furniture. I kept one car, she got one car. I kept my 401k, but took the debt. She walked away with the furniture, a car, debt free, and I kept the house and a car. Last year I sold my house, my ex was my realtor, I cleared over 150k, she got a nice commission. It was funny. Now, I live in another state, in a house, on landi inherited. All debts paid off, 2 cars, 2 motorcycles, and trying to meet a woman. I keep meeting women who are in debt, with kids who are " my world" and a prenuptial makes total sense...that or staying single
Remember when filing for a prenup make sure you BOTH have independent legal representation. Make sure that it is signed at least 2 months before you get married. It doesn’t matter how “IronClad” your prenup is, your former spouse can sue to have it thrown out and claim it was either signed under duress OR that they were mislead about the implications of the agreement. You would be surprised how many former partners end up winning and having the prenup thrown out or have the terms renegotiated.
It will not be thrown out if the contract is signed at least 3 months beforehand and both lawyers (that are self appointed) are present at the signing and also sign the contract themselves
@@Mac-plutowhat about in a case where a partner just came to the U.S and expected to be married in 90days, how do you advise Such person to handle the prenup procedures?
i’m a single young woman and i think that it can be helpful for many couples, especially now that women are able to own property, use credit, etc. it protects both parties & also gives time to answer necessary questions beforehand
@@justinwilliamson6355they get thrown in the event the woman says she was pressured into signing it, but if it's signed infront of a doctor and attorney, and there's a video recording to prove she's alright, it cannot be thrown out.
I fully agree 💯. When I was a kid my father had full custody. Mom passed away young. My father became an alcoholic remarried two times before I moved out. Each time they ended in divorce and I as the kid lost everything. Today I would have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of collectible coins and collectible cards and those were just something I held near and dear that were taken. Never understood how my father could let that happen however I have let it go till you reminded me Pat
I told myself a long time ago I wouldn’t marry a girl that is not ok with me getting a prenup. I’m 23 now. I don’t care who she is. Seen so many men personally get screwed. Take Pat’s advice. Great vid Pat, thanks!
As a young man in todays times, I am grateful for the content you create. Thank you for addressing these topics. You are who men with integrity and self respect can follow.
Advise, prenups can be rejected in courts and thrown away, but to prevent that, before it's signed a medical professional should be present and yr spouses attorney too, then a video recording should be done, to prevent yr spouse saying they were pressured in court to sign it . Also prenups cannot protect you from losing money after divorce, child support and alimony aren't protected.
My prenup is saving my life. I'm gong through a divorce right now of nearly 8 years. The prenup hands down has save me. Spend the money today, get a good lawyer, get the prenup. Its a fair way out for both parties. Use it as a tool for good, which it is.
Yes! I ask for one in my 2nd marriage. I didn’t want drama from adult children if anything were to happen to him. I felt it showed that I truly loved him and didn’t want his money/life insurance lol. Plus the children feel taken care of.
If anything catastrophic were to happen to your spouse health wise will you be the primary caregiver, or will the adult children willing and able to carry most of the weight? My feeling is a spouse who is a primary caregiver you are entitled to compensation for their labor.
I just want to say sir you're one of the very youtubers who always stands with truth and doesn't manipulate their audience....thanks from the bottom of my heart
I agree 100%, because I was one of those idealistic and naive fools who were against Prenups and I learned a brutal lesson. And, a lot of women these days are telling men who have children from a prior marriage to choose between them UP FRONT, like a preemptive strike. They don't want any issues that'll detract from them getting your full attention and support for HER and HER kids. So, good luck if you pass on a Prenup.
1. Keep your finances separate A prenup defines whether the assets you own like your house or car are separate property of one spouse or part of the marital estate. If you’re considerably wealthier than your partner, a prenup is a good step towards ensuring that your partner isn’t marrying you for your money. If you earn more than your partner, then a prenup can be used to limit the amount of alimony payable in the event of a divorce. If you own a business, a spouse can claim a portion of your business’ increase in value or income. Divorce is one of the biggest threats to the stability of your business, so get that squared away in your prenuptial agreement. 2. Establish property rights and distribution Your state’s laws dictate how the property obtained during your marriage is distributed upon divorce. In the nine states with community property laws, assets will typically be divided between the two parties in an equal split. Under equitable distribution state law, marital property is split in a manner that is considered fair when taking a number of factors into account, such as each partner’s financial contribution to the marriage and their subsequent needs post-divorce. Some couples might want to avoid having to leave the disposition of their assets up to the courts. With a prenup, you have an agreement already in writing, on what to do with your home and personal property, made long before this potentially contentious period when an agreement might seem impossible. Your prenup can also stipulate the distribution of your property and even life insurance benefits upon the death of one of the partners. 3. Protect one spouse from the other spouses’ debt Debt is an unfortunate reality of life, and people are bringing their debt into marriage along with furniture and family. That debt isn’t necessarily evenly allocated between the partners, and should there be a divorce, the less-burdened partner doesn’t want to have to pay off creditors, should they target shared marital assets for repayment. A prenup can help to limit one partner’s exposure to the other’s debt in the case of divorce. Any agreement should outline the separate debts of each partner going into the marriage as well as individual assets; that allows for a clear division between those debts and debts accrued by the couple during the course of the marriage. 4. Protect your family property and estate plan You may have an heirloom or property that you want to ensure stays within the family in the case of divorce. Having a prenup in place to keep any cherished items separate and apart from your communal marital assets ensures that the fate of your familial property isn’t left up to the court system or state laws. A prenup can also address any questions of inheritance and ensure that your estate plan is carried out according to your wishes, in conjunction with a will and living trust. 5. Protect your assets in the event of remarriage Should you decide to get remarried after your divorce, you’ll be faced with a new set of challenges and complications when it comes to determining how to protect your family as well as your property. A second marriage includes all the complications that already come with combining separate lives and adds the possibility of children, child support, and additional assets to be accounted for. A prenup for a second or (subsequent) marriage should address all of the concerns of an initial marriage as well as addressing concerns arising from obligations from the previous marriage. It can also spell out the distribution of assets in the case of death of one of the partners, to ensure that person’s children get any intended inheritance - again, in conjunction with a will or living trust. 6. Avoid extensive court proceedings in the event of divorce A divorce is a painful enough process as is, made even more so by a long, drawn-out and expensive legal process that can cost on average $15,000 per person. And trying to come to an agreement on divvying up your assets and property when your negative feelings towards your former partner are at their highest is challenging on the best day. A prenup signed ahead of your marriage will at least alleviate some of the headache of fighting over your assets and make the process somewhat smoother, if not easier. 7. Openly communicate and prepare yourself for the possibility of divorce No one wants to enter marriage thinking about the possibility of its failure, but given the oft-cited divorce rates, it’s a reality impossible to ignore. Having that difficult conversation with your partner before you get married about the potential for divorce and finances, allows you to be open and honest with one another, and prepares you for the difficult conversations that are required in any marriage. When you’re prepared for the possibility that your marriage could end in divorce, you’re being emotionally realistic. You’re also being open with your partner about your financial status, needs and concerns as you enter marriage.
This is so true. I never thought of it this way but it makes alot of sense. I always imagined prenups were needed only by very rich people but now I see it differently. Good topic.
Experienced divorce lawyer here. I love the video and you creating awareness about the value of prenuptial agreements. However, prenups are complicated documents. I draft them and also have them set aside if they are defective. Prenup laws vary widely from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Speak with an experienced family law attorney in your jurisdiction BEFORE making any wedding plans or ordering wedding invitations! PBD - I’d be happy to discuss the intricacies of prenuptial agreements with you on your TH-cam channel. I have posted many prenup related videos on my own TH-cam channel. Keep up the great work!
The problem with prenups, is that when you ask for, your partner knows you’re anticipating an end before it even starts, which leads to them not wanting to marry you at all, even without a prenup
My dad got screwed more than once by not having one. The divorces both sucked him dry emotionally and financially and he died at 55. I'm not going to let that happen to me.
"Holla, We want prenup! We want prenup!" (Yeah!) It's somethin' that you need to have 'Cause when she leave yo' ass, she gon' leave with half" Kanye and Jamie Foxx
Lol, that depends on state laws on divorce. For example: Illinois divorce laws say that division of assets would be 50/50 but it only includes assets acquired within the marriage. So if you have ownership of properties prior to that marriage, they are not subject to the division of assets.
You can't predict the future , if your girlfriend kicks up a fuss about a prenup it's a massive red flag imo. Protect yourself first nothing wrong with that ❤😊
My dad died exactly 1 year to when his life insurance went into effect. Insurance denied my claim to it. I’m not a fan of the ethics behind life insurance.
TBH just put the money into long term stocks and forget about it. Just set a recurring payment like you would an insurance. Instead of putting thousands of dollars into insurance and fighting just to get a claim if something happens, put it into stocks and you'll have up to hundreds of thousands of dollars that you can fairly easily pull out in emergencies. There's a reason why insurance companies and their sales people get so rich.
Thank you for this video. This shook a lot of fear out of me. My partner had never thought of a prenup, and he’s the money maker. I work but I will never make what he makes. I was scared about a prenup cause it sounded like he could leave me and take the house & my car with him because it’s in his name (the car). But I felt it was the most honest thing to do, to explain to him that he needs to protect himself. I got very sad at the thought of losing everything one day or living as though none of what we have is really mine but wow. I love this. This literally would protect both of us. Thank you thank you thank you.
Diplomatically well done Patrick. However I definitely think a kay point you neglected to mention is that the lawyers of both parties should look at the prenup before its signed off. The reason being so that it can never be said that either party signed it under duress, which can get the prenup completely thrown out in many states. Another factor that should be included in all prenups is mandatory paternity testing with significant penalty clauses if they don't come out clean.
Patric, thank you for all your videos I really learned a lot from you. You have mentioned many times “Iran” and your care about Iranian people which is very much admirable. I wish you put out a video and your point of view about what is happening in Iran, especially women in Iran right now. Thank you.
Exactly my point If you are not a Christian marriage is just a piece of paper to people. It’s a whole concept people don’t understand outside of Christianity
We had a relationship agreement prior to marriage. That was my idea so he knew my intentions where pure....and just a bit of peace mind for him that I didn't want his things I wanted him. We also have a pre nup. It's generous to me and will change the longer we are married. I pay half of almost everything. Even though he earns 5 to five times more. But that's just me. I love to contribute financially...makes me feel good... Fingers crossed we always love each other but this is second time around for us both. Pays to be careful. I recommend EVERYONE get a pre nup so many men get screwed over and it's not fair. Especially when they had wayy more when the relationship started. Anyways that's just my feelings and thoughts.
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Your logic is sound at least to me. I feel like it's not just a safety net for all parties but it's a way to get things organized so there's no confusion within marriage. If anyone honestly has an issue with at least discussing things out that should be a giant red flag.
I got married last spring ❤ My wife is a millionaire , she said " no prenup for you babe" 😊❤ I trust you with all my heart and want to spend the rest of my life❤😊 with you❤ ❤😊❤
When my bf and I get married, we've agreed we'll get a prenup. I have my income, he has his income, and both of us are the sole heirs to our parents' inheritance. We're equals. That is what a prenup is for, imo: to make sure we have an equal marriage in which divorce doesn't benefit one side over the other.
I mean we get into these marriages and we have this idea that we will all be with the same partner for the rest of our lives but the harsh reality is no one can predict the future and that doesn’t always happen. That’s life you grow apart, what you want today might not be your goals 10 years from now. That’s why it’s always important to get a prenup. It’s not to say you don’t trust each other, but to protect each other, just in case life happens.
I wouldn’t mind signing a prenup if my SO didn’t make me sound like I was greedy and was with him for his bank account. That’s what happened in my last relationship and I was offended. I brought up how that hurt me and he got upset that I was upset. He didn’t know this, and I didn’t dare tell him, but my ex before him made ten times more. He cheated on me and I never made him owe me anything. Never laid a finger on him, never cussed at him, never destroyed any of his properties. I just walked away crying.. he said my refusal to take revenge and only showed him love really killed him. He said it was “the worse breakup.” He tried coming back months later, but I didn’t take him back. When I rejected him I rejected his 7 figures, too. I wish my last ex knew this about my past so he’d stop suspecting that I was only dating him for his money and that’s why he thinks I should sign a prenup. I’m still offended by those words to this day.
Your past behaviour is not a predictor of future behaviour. Yourself cannot guarantee how you will behave in the future. Hence his request for prenup may have upset your value system… but it still was an honest way to protect you two from future conflict. You put your high ego and value system up front and preferred to be outraged rather than valuing the relationship. Good for you, it showed you that your ego matters more to you than what you thought this relationship could bring to you.
A judge will not honor a pre nup that is completely one sided. If the rich husband says you get nothing, the judge throws it out. A prenup has to be fair for both parties. A 50 50 prenup is fair. But today, most men lose 80%.
My mom.never bought my dad a gift but my dad always bought her agift every single birthday year...and we never gift each other. Love is not about giving gifts its about the love you have for your family members
Women want prenupts too. I just wish there was more advice on how to go about getting one and make sure it's good and fair, and adjustable like if a spouse's health deteriorates or if one spouse works for the other spouse's company instead of working at their normal job which stops them from growing their retirement account... life changes especially when you're older.
A prenup being “fair” is simple, I keep all of my assets I had prior to meeting you, any debt I take on during the marriage will be in my name and vice versa
Thanks for this video Pat. Men around the world are thanking you for helping bring this necessity to the masses, especially the Red Pill audience who's been leading the charge.
Great content!!! We didn’t have a Prenup but we DID set up Bank Accounts exactly as you said. Only thing we needed to do after we got married was make each other beneficiaries on Accounts. AND also add each other to Business Accounts in case of death (since they don’t have beneficiaries). 🌟💡🌟Do you have a video about “end of life” planning??? As an experienced wife of an Entrepreneur, I wanted my future husband to continue having his freedom and also NO arguments. My wisdom and his willingness worked 💞😇🙏🏽 exactly as you say here. Plus, I wanted to know when we were dating that he was truly in love with me and not what I have (my property as you said). As my home was the newer and nicer home. His home was trashed from cats, dogs, etc. Absolutely gross!!! But we agreed after we got married that we both put money into repairs and fixing it up. WE enjoy working together. Truly better together!!!! 💞 You’re right!!! We’d inspire each other in business and our businesses grew more and more from being together. He even turned me into an Entrepreneur when I was simply comfortable managing other businesses. Forever changed for the better. So grateful. My love language is words and gifts... I love to surprise my man with vacations too so I saw it as a win-win keeping my own account. He saw where I was coming from and agreed. When the movie “War Room” came out... I said, “Look! This is what I protected our marriage from. Loving life together with peace in our home, lots of laughter and are free to truly enjoy each other without this stress and arguing over finances.”
I am very pro marriage but I agree with some of these comments...if you aren't willing to take a loss than don't get married. I think instead of learning about prenups we need to be learning how we can make a happy marriage last. My wife was 18 and I was 20 when we got married 13 years ago..we have 4 children and want more. We fight but we fight through our issues. We don't let anything go too long. Best advice..realize you're both imperfect and in most cases you're both to blame for unhappiness. Instead of looking out for your rights, think about you obligations to your wife/husband. Love is not about you. By the way we have a common law marriage. The state had nothing to do with what we believe is between us and God. We had friends and family witness the wedding and we chose to serve each other for the rest of our lives. We are happy
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My ex husband lost the only signed copy of our prenuptial agreement and when we got a divorce I honored it fully. Not having a job and owing a good amount in student loans. Sometimes you divorce the exact person you married. Their loss.
It's sad to say because when you get married, you are marrying your best friend and lover. If I was young and getting married today, Pre-up all the way.
Exactly Coach Greg Adams the only one calling out the fact that the prenup isn't worth the paper it's printed on. PBD's wife could pull the plug at any time and turn his life upside down. Especially since he got married in California she'd take half easily. I love PBD but this advice is outdated.
I was married for 7 years after dating for a year. Totally fairytale wedding. After 7 years we grew apart and had so many differences and we both walked away. Thankfully she only wanted 30%. I definitely want to do a prenuptial agreement next time around... really dodged a bullet.
Great video Pat - very logical and convincing argument to get a prenup! You’ve hit the nail on its head! It’s interesting to read the opinions on not getting a prenup. Yes, a prenup is a legal contract, and when done correctly with competent legal counsel, it is very clear and holds weight in court (if you live in the right state). What else is a legal contract? Marriage. Marriage is a very poorly executed and ambiguous legal contract, which allows family law attorneys to manipulate their clients into fighting until one party is zeroed out. A prenup (and postnup) serve to correct a terrible and unconscionable contract. Most anyone who has been through the family law system understands the gravity of these concepts. The solution - prenup, or just avoid marriage altogether. (This includes “common law marriage” - check your state laws, and use a cohabitation agreement if necessary, or just do not move in together.)
41% get divorced. 20% get separated without divorcing, 15% continue living together miserably, 15% get stuck in a boring marriage, 8% continue living together out of convenience, and only 1% get a happy marriage till death do them part. Chances are you're not gonna be that 1%.
Three things to find out about your future spouse before the wedding day: 1) Find out their credit score and any outstanding debts. 2) Find out what hereditary diseases run in their family ie Huntington's cholera, sickle cell anemia, etc. 3) Find out if they have a criminal history. Sometimes people don't like to talk about these things.
@@theluvchilds1192 There is a cite that lets you check a person's criminal history for a small fee. I'm sure there is a way to check a person's credit report also. The medical history may be more difficult to investigate. ALL these things are worth knowing before you say "I do".
Yes sir! I love my partner and we eloped at a court right after we got a prenup! WHO wants prenups?! I got prenup! 😊 EDIT: I didn’t know we can edit prenups every 5 years 😮
Yup. Prenups get thrown out in court at a judges discretion. There is absolutely zero reason for a Man to get legally married in 2022 and it accomplishes nothing for a Mam that he cannot accomplish without legal marriage. Period. And that is a fact.
@@legion24100 to limit my liability as much as possible I’m personally not comfortable with a 3rd party telling me what to do with my money . Even my monthly payments to support my son were discussed between me and his mother no third party
@@crooked52h again your values and principles may not align with others...some may want to sacrifice liability for marriage... religion may play a part in that...culture as well
I am a licensed attorney and half of the points made in this video is misinformation. Firstly, in almost every state, assets and debts acquired before the marriage are considered separate property, not marital property. Inheritance and gifts are also automatically separate property in almost every state. You don’t need a pre nup to lay this out, it’s already default state law. Also you cannot contract away your obligations to your children after divorce. This is any easy way to invalidate your pre nup. If you’re reading this, please actually consult with a family law attorney in your state.
yeah… this isn’t true lol. just went through a divorce where a property was gifted to me very early on in the marriage. in FL you can’t own & occupy a property that isn’t jointly titled if you are married. so property was jointly titled & even though i had a gift letter only addressed to me stating it was a gift to ME, my wife was entitled to half simply because her name was on title. it would’ve been up to the judges discretion to decide whether or not i “deserved” the property. wasn’t worth the gamble. i offered her a sizable percentage of equity to buy her out. wasn’t half necessarily but still a huge amount. divorce is an absolute losing game for a man without a pre nup.
Funny thing is that I watched him on tiktok talking about prenup, wasn't sure what prenup was about.. So I hurried to TH-cam to find out, and boom, he is still same person telling me about what prenup is😂😂Now that I finally understand the concept, I am definitely getting a prenup.😊
The problem is MEN need to enforce the prenup before marriage (if they are silly enough to get married). Men get manipulated by the woomin by her saying "you dont trust me", or theyl cry like little kids and the men cave and not get it. If a woomin has a problem with a prenup, drop her, she cannot be trusted. because she can also say she was pressured into the prenup. You as the man need to be willing to walk away if that happens.
*DO NOT BE A BETAMALE! DO NOT ALLOW YOUR GIRLFRIEND TO DISRESPECT YOU! DO NOT BE AFRAID TO LEAVE YOUR GIRLFRIEND! DO NOT CARE IF SHE LEAVES YOU! TELL HER TO HAVE SEX WHENEVER YOU WANT OR IGNORE HER YOUR ATTENTION. TELL HER AND HER LAWYER THAT BEFORE YOU MARRY, SHE PAYS YOU ALL THAT DIVORCE ALIMONY MONEY.*
brother... keep your finances separate. their is NO reason to share one account. the only person who could benefit is her and the ONLY one who could be screwed over is you. why take that risk. if she demands everything is 50/50 hers on paper regardless, leave her. women will turn into your worst nightmare , they know exactly what can destroy you and they use it all against you. i wish you the best, remember the likelihood of your marriage succeeding is under 40% and even less than 20% if she's got more than 5 bodies. thats a fact. less than 5 bodies 80% success rate, over 5 bodies , 20% chance of successful marriage due to her being unable to pair pair bond with you on a deep level cus shes ben run through.
If ur not working for your wife and kids your working for yourself and u truly don’t believe she or the kids love u that much that they will never turn thier back on u
This video makes a lot of good points. When you get married you need to be all in and yes burn the boats, there is no way out other then death. Both parties have to make it work if your not 1000% committed the risk is to high for a divorce simply don't get married.
WOW Patrick once again powerful and very important information that we rarely learn until it’s too late but these are things that we can teach our children and the thought behind it and how you present it to your future partner is so logical and yet kind and a very palatable way to approach this very delicate subject. You had my full attention right from where you started speaking about the yours, mine and our checking accounts. Also how you handle the part of step children. I had a beautiful relationship destroyed by a step child once. As always your subject matter on every subject you approach is very informative and interesting and very applicable. Thanks again for the great and usable advice.
Something I learned from the prenup, marriage and subsiquent divorce. My life looked so different from the original terms of the prenup, it was basically worthless. A different province, house, fledging business, investment and retirement accounts. None of which were even a thought at the time. Ten years later, I paid her more money then she had ever contributed in the entire time we were together. I just don’t think a legal marriage is worth it from a male perspective anymore. As Tomi Larhen said, all men are trash. We are nothing but toxic, walking bank accounts for the gain of the opposite sex. No thank you ✌🏻
She did contribute; otherwise you wouldn't have stuck around all those years. 🙄 Even staying with a man that thinks like you is a nightmare; diminishing all her contributions because they are not financial is dishonest. May God repay her for her patience.
@@denfolo5224you have no idea the circumstances of his situation, or why he is saying what he is saying. Perhaps he worked for years to build a life and she cheated and ended up taking a big portion. You sound like the type to just take a woman’s side (see I can draw quick conclusions too). You’re either a chick who definitely requires a prenup or a simpish dude who’s gonna learn he needed one.
@@jesscbf6688 You have no idea of her situation. So, I am still waiting for the part where you disprove what I said, with evidence. My gender doesn't matter nor does the simp labeling; can't get to me. Off to my dinner. Wish me bon appetit 😊.
Pat, you are a wise man. This is very relevant in this modern world. This should be put into law. This action supports marriages. With this advice, marriages will increase.
My old man always tells me, "Daayem, if you wanna know and predict what a woman will be like as your wife 5, 10, 20, 30 years down the road, look at what her mother is like as a person and as a wife. That's exactly how your woman will treat you if/when she's your wife."
Depends which part of the world you live in and where u found your spouse. In some parts of the world, Marriage still holds the traditional meaning symbol of family. But for US and most western countries, Marriage is like a "business contract" so Yeah Prenup all the way for the latter.
I have 5 siblings who are married for years now with kids. Three married their 1st SO, 2 married their 2nd SO. None of them signed a prenup. My parents never had a prenup either. They married until my mom passed away. That’s how deep the trust and commitment is. God forbid if anything happens, I know my siblings and I think I know my in-laws well enough, that they’re not the type that fights or are vengeful, so it’d be an easy process. Just be careful of who you marry. If you marry someone you feel you HAVE TO sign a prenup, it says something about you, your SO, and how you view marriage.
It's this type of thinking that gets people screwed. If you feel you have to get a prenup it just to keep the lawyers out. Way too many people get into marriages thinking their partner is perfect and don't need to sign a prenup (Same positive mindset you're encouraging) and then the SO turn nasty towards the other during and before divorce. No matter what you can't predict how someone will be in the future. Wanting a prenup doesn't mean the marriage will fail. The prenup just a safety measure like insurance. Otherwise you're telling people to not plan entering marriages.
Men are careful who they marry, but 60 % still get destroyed in family court and become homeless. You cannot argue true statistics. These are facts, not Disney and Snowhite. Why does a female that wants to be independent always get 10 years of alimony? Get two prenups, one from her so she cannot say she was pressured to sign.
I think there should be a pre-coital agreement, ie. a, Can she prove she is on contraception. b, does the man get to decide if their baby is aborted? c, is the man free from personal and financial responsibility if there is a pregnancy. d, Does the woman agree to a paternity test so she can prove the child is his. This will do 2 things, it will get them to both think before they have sex and I think there will be less abortions because the man may think twice before moving forward.
A week after i proposed to my girlfriend she told me:
"Marriage is based on trust, so you wanting a prenup means you don't trust me. Marriage partners should be equal"
I replied: "Give me one good reason why should i sign an agreement that can only benefit you and can only be damaging to me in the event of a divorce. Marriage is between two people and it's in no way a given that both will feel the same way decades or just years from now."
She got mad enough that i got suspicious she cared more about money than me, and even though she then said a prenup is ok, i decided not to tie the knot too soon, and it didn't take long when i started to notice a change in her behavior whenever we talked about money so i left her and not long after that i found a great girl and we have been happily married for 8 years.. With a prenup.
Good work 👏
well played
Excellent video. Respectfully 41% of first marriages end up in divorce and majority of those 59% are your grand-parents and parents that stayed together. The statistics are way way worst than that. Between 2007 to 2017 only 6% of those that married in 2007 (regardless of first second or third marriages) were still married 10 years later. That is 1 in 16. Uncle Sam hide these numbers since they are catastrophic with number games like 1st 2nd and 3rd marriages comparison...bla bla since the population is aging rapidly and the real numbers can be fixed that way. People dont have the slightest idea until they socialize a lot and notice that majority f the people are divorced at least once. You get married today and your chance to be divorced within the first 10 years is 94%...based on the 2007 to 2017 date...but interestingly Uncle Sam stated that divorce rate became worst with covid...so go figure. He should mention that prenups can be challenged and cancelled in many states upon the divorce by the other side lawyer.
@@costamarques3900 I live in Japan and i meet with my lawyer every 5 years or so because in Japan prenups needs to get updated at intervals.
@@epicon6 interesting, there are lot of countries have lot of different laws regarding prenups and marriages.
After 17 years, my wife who is the love of my life, had to leave due to mental health. I couldn't do it anymore. And our pre-nup saved me. She never worked. I made a fortune working hard. built multiple companies. Thanks to that prenup, the ball is in MY court. Listen to PBD gents!
king move!
Do you have kids? Did she go through a pregnancy and kid-care-taking in which a professional career becomes distant? If so, she went through all of that, with you going on with your life without sacrifices? You are now in a way better position than her at divorce-time.
Could u teach me how to be a nillionaire
In sickness and in health.....
🎉 I’m glad for you. Don’t let the losers below in the comments shame you. When women divorce men all the time and talk half their money.
I truly believe there’s nothing wrong with a prenup in a healthy marriage. If nothing happens with the couple, then it’s literally not gonna change anything.
what about tax benefits?
@@jasonolinger7585 you get tax benefits, prenup protects you from other party to legally steal from you.
Nowadays prenups gets thrown away so marriage is a horrible deal
Exactly! Prenup is a contigency plan
Well it does change on how do you split payments during the marriage, if I know we won't share in the future I will rather make my husband pay for his stuff while I save my money. If we know we will share everything then we can also share what we have now without worrying too much who is paying for what.
I’m a Christian and married a young girl from my church in LA when I was 23 (& pastoring a church there). 13 years later, people change over time, she shocked me with a nasty divorce. She’s a dedicated Christian with blogs and videos talking all the typical super-Christian “anti-divorce” narratives… but funny how people act when things get stressful. They never tell you on your wedding day: “I just want you to know, when things are stressful down the road, I’m going to become the most irrational person you know, come after your money, & screw the kids”. Lol
Prenup is the only logical way to go now a days. Remember, marriage is sadly a business investment to most woman - it’s a “come up quick” arrangement to many.
Remember: 80% of divorce are started by woman, but 90% of the monthly payments paid out go from the man to the woman.
Another great option that has gotten popular is to just not get married with the state and only in your church. Most states have “dual dwelling” laws now so you still get the tax benefits. Ask a lawyer but it’s really becoming popular.
Boom!
Matthew 6:19-21
“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Prenups are never upheld in Canadian courts and I suspect US courts find many ways to invalidate them as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but prenups provide nothing more than a false sense of security and are promoted to fool the higher income earner. Courts and lawyers always want their take. It's so corrupt, I immediately lose faith in anyone that promotes marriage knowing full well the result is certain lifelong servitude. I still like PBD, but my advice is: don't marry, don't cohabitate. At the very least, talk to 20 people in your jurisdiction that have been through divorce etc. and can speak freely and honestly before you make any lifechanging decisions.
So many women go to church to find their lottery ticket. It was never about marriage. Divorce is often the goal. If you want to know the intent, look at the results.
@@csn10 Some good points for sure man. In the US, this varies by state but overall prenups are not 100% bulletproof but they do show intent, draw a lot more clarity in the relationship as it starts, and courts usually strongly consider them. Its a contractual agreement and it does carry some weight for sure in a lot of states.
And believe it or not, all the ones I've ever seen (maybe 7 or 8) were originated by the higher income earner who's trying to protect themselves should the other person become a gold digger later on.
I asked my now wife of 8 years to sing a prenup before we marred. She asked why we needed it. I told her 100% of all of our previous romantic relationships for both her and I did not work out over time. So, with both of us failing 100% of the time we need to understand it's possible to fail again. She singed and we marred. In 8 years, she has never even said a bad word to me and we have not had any fights. She has her responsibilities and I have mine and we work together against the world instead of each other. I don't know if it would be the same without the prenup. Its so easy to quit on marriage in the modern world.
Dude that’s trippy. It’s like the prenup has become the marriage.
Smart couple. You explain things simply and logically. Well done. 😊
Are you jealous or just want to go away from the truth?@@TheJacali
@@askdomisset as a single man I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little jealous. But I’m trying to have faith in God and have Him be all I need. That said, I do not understand the point of your question. Please elaborate.
having clear consequences established or making wrongdoing not worth it helps keep people on the true path. its not her, its just the way people are, 1% of people wont rob an unlocked house, 98% only stay out cause there is a lock, 1% will rob the house regardless, divorce initiated by women is high because there are no consequences but incentive to do so, if the roles were reversed it would be the same for men.
A wise man once said, “If you’re good enough friends to not need a contract, you’re good enough friends to make a contract…”
😂 a wise man once also said there's an invisible man in the sky that answers all prayers and millions followed him simply cuz they believed he was a saint when he was nothing more than a conman. Centuries later the same meaningless teachings are used to DupeThe masses. Case in point Kenneth Copeland lives on 8 million dollar tax free estate and now owns a private luxury jet. This mf makes millions and lives a lavish life Bernie madoff could only dream of. In fact he's not the only one operating this type of racket. A wise man once said if it seems too good to be true chances are it is. Marriage kids and family is fkn stupid meaningless waste of time. Humanity truly is a parasitic cancer on earth. The planet needs less of us not more and since marriage and family is mainly there for the purpose of insuring successful breeding it serves nothing else except survival of the human species. It's infinitely easier to fk a whore or jerk off and go to sleep than waste time raising kids only to find out the kid became a school shooter, Hitler, Stalin, Ted Bundy,Jeffrey dahmer, a crooked judge corrupt politician etc. Fk that! Not to mention the constant screaming arguing and fighting that goes on in the house while kids grow. who needs all that stupid aggravation? F prenups f marriage n f kids! I ain't sharing f all with anyone except me 😌
Exactly
That's some bullshit right there. The whole point of a contract is that you are not friends when it comes to a business partnership. So why do you need a marriage contract. Taxes, children, etc. Not because your friends. But because it's a business arrangement with liability concerns. Marriage is an archaic institution. In reality, anything that fails half the time is typically considered unreliable.
@@robwisniewski7490 Hey I don't make the news, I just report it...😅
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I'M SMILING. ATTORNEYS IN THE CHAT ARE PROTESTING. SEEMS TO ME PAT HAD SOME VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT LAWYERS!
Pat the kinda guy to tell ppl to get a prenuptial but not have one
Why would attorney’s be angry? You’re suggesting they’re angry the way you formulated your post. The lawyers are protesting bc they’re advertising to get new clients. Stop using Newspeak and saying the opposite of what you mean.
👀👀👀👀👀 I respect Pat but he should stick to what he knows, a prenups is bait for the ignorant
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This was good. I always hated when I heard about prenuptial. Then I got divorced after 30 years. Luckily my divorce was very reasonable. I kept the house, she got the furniture. I kept one car, she got one car. I kept my 401k, but took the debt. She walked away with the furniture, a car, debt free, and I kept the house and a car. Last year I sold my house, my ex was my realtor, I cleared over 150k, she got a nice commission. It was funny. Now, I live in another state, in a house, on landi inherited. All debts paid off, 2 cars, 2 motorcycles, and trying to meet a woman. I keep meeting women who are in debt, with kids who are " my world" and a prenuptial makes total sense...that or staying single
Just date these women and cut them loose when they push for marriage. You know they'd never marry you if the financial situations were reversed.
Right hand is a good option too. 😂
Stay away from single mothers, they can't add to what you have and it sounds like things are good.
you haven't learned...trying to meet another woman, in that fucking horrific country?
Get a prenup. Do not compromise. You went through this before.
Got me self a prenup. Best decision I ever made. Our marriage is stronger and not held up artificially on the pretext of what I own.
Exactly
Remember when filing for a prenup make sure you BOTH have independent legal representation. Make sure that it is signed at least 2 months before you get married. It doesn’t matter how “IronClad” your prenup is, your former spouse can sue to have it thrown out and claim it was either signed under duress OR that they were mislead about the implications of the agreement. You would be surprised how many former partners end up winning and having the prenup thrown out or have the terms renegotiated.
It will not be thrown out if the contract is signed at least 3 months beforehand and both lawyers (that are self appointed) are present at the signing and also sign the contract themselves
@@Mac-pluto that sums up what I said pretty nicely.
@@Mac-plutowhat about in a case where a partner just came to the U.S and expected to be married in 90days, how do you advise Such person to handle the prenup procedures?
@@chikannaji6110 speak with a lawyer.
i’m a single young woman and i think that it can be helpful for many couples, especially now that women are able to own property, use credit, etc. it protects both parties & also gives time to answer necessary questions beforehand
Yeah. You see how much debt your man has and drop him right there!
I am absolutely for prenuptial agreement. Bring it on.
You only feel that way, because you know they get thrown out, by the Judge.
@@justinwilliamson6355they get thrown in the event the woman says she was pressured into signing it, but if it's signed infront of a doctor and attorney, and there's a video recording to prove she's alright, it cannot be thrown out.
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I fully agree 💯. When I was a kid my father had full custody. Mom passed away young. My father became an alcoholic remarried two times before I moved out. Each time they ended in divorce and I as the kid lost everything. Today I would have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of collectible coins and collectible cards and those were just something I held near and dear that were taken. Never understood how my father could let that happen however I have let it go till you reminded me Pat
Some men are as addicted to pu$$y, just as some men are addicted to Heroin or Crack Cocaine. In the end, I think the drugs will be cheaper.
Low level woman
I told myself a long time ago I wouldn’t marry a girl that is not ok with me getting a prenup. I’m 23 now. I don’t care who she is. Seen so many men personally get screwed. Take Pat’s advice. Great vid Pat, thanks!
Turning 30 later this year. I have the exact same thought and still single, still going foward.
Cheers!
Divorce lawyers will hate this video!! You are the man PBD!! 😎 💯
As a young man in todays times, I am grateful for the content you create. Thank you for addressing these topics. You are who men with integrity and self respect can follow.
YOURE RIGHT!! … cause.. she doesn’t love you, just the situation.
Yes, you only exist as a utility for a women, therefore, her love is only conditional
It works both ways - male-female relationships are based on conditional love.
Fucked up but true lol
…..she loves that ring..
The debt part is huge! Marrying into debt sounds absolutely awful, stressful, and unfair.
It's not unfair if you knowingly jump into it like use your brains for once
Don’t marry women in debt (other than if she owns a home)
I won’t marry a woman with debt period. Won’t even date them.
Advise, prenups can be rejected in courts and thrown away, but to prevent that, before it's signed a medical professional should be present and yr spouses attorney too, then a video recording should be done, to prevent yr spouse saying they were pressured in court to sign it . Also prenups cannot protect you from losing money after divorce, child support and alimony aren't protected.
It’s about protecting each person. You never know what will happen down the road.
Facts, glad to see a video on this. I work in wealth management and this is one of the most under looked things with newly married or young couples
My prenup is saving my life. I'm gong through a divorce right now of nearly 8 years. The prenup hands down has save me. Spend the money today, get a good lawyer, get the prenup. Its a fair way out for both parties. Use it as a tool for good, which it is.
Yes! I ask for one in my 2nd marriage. I didn’t want drama from adult children if anything were to happen to him. I felt it showed that I truly loved him and didn’t want his money/life insurance lol. Plus the children feel taken care of.
LOL Prenups are thrown out in court all the time. Women still get all the benefits of divorce, especially if they have children.
That’s why you’re a keeper :)
If anything catastrophic were to happen to your spouse health wise will you be the primary caregiver, or will the adult children willing and able to carry most of the weight? My feeling is a spouse who is a primary caregiver you are entitled to compensation for their labor.
@@poisonapple146 Having a pre-nip in place doesn’t mean a spouse isn’t entitled. Just means they get what’s “owed”to them and others can’t stop it.
I just want to say sir you're one of the very youtubers who always stands with truth and doesn't manipulate their audience....thanks from the bottom of my heart
I agree 100%, because I was one of those idealistic and naive fools who were against Prenups and I learned a brutal lesson.
And, a lot of women these days are telling men who have children from a prior marriage to choose between them UP FRONT, like a preemptive strike. They don't want any issues that'll detract from them getting your full attention and support for HER and HER kids. So, good luck if you pass on a Prenup.
1. Keep your finances separate
A prenup defines whether the assets you own like your house or car are separate property of one spouse or part of the marital estate.
If you’re considerably wealthier than your partner, a prenup is a good step towards ensuring that your partner isn’t marrying you for your money.
If you earn more than your partner, then a prenup can be used to limit the amount of alimony payable in the event of a divorce.
If you own a business, a spouse can claim a portion of your business’ increase in value or income. Divorce is one of the biggest threats to the stability of your business, so get that squared away in your prenuptial agreement.
2. Establish property rights and distribution
Your state’s laws dictate how the property obtained during your marriage is distributed upon divorce. In the nine states with community property laws, assets will typically be divided between the two parties in an equal split. Under equitable distribution state law, marital property is split in a manner that is considered fair when taking a number of factors into account, such as each partner’s financial contribution to the marriage and their subsequent needs post-divorce.
Some couples might want to avoid having to leave the disposition of their assets up to the courts. With a prenup, you have an agreement already in writing, on what to do with your home and personal property, made long before this potentially contentious period when an agreement might seem impossible. Your prenup can also stipulate the distribution of your property and even life insurance benefits upon the death of one of the partners.
3. Protect one spouse from the other spouses’ debt
Debt is an unfortunate reality of life, and people are bringing their debt into marriage along with furniture and family. That debt isn’t necessarily evenly allocated between the partners, and should there be a divorce, the less-burdened partner doesn’t want to have to pay off creditors, should they target shared marital assets for repayment.
A prenup can help to limit one partner’s exposure to the other’s debt in the case of divorce. Any agreement should outline the separate debts of each partner going into the marriage as well as individual assets; that allows for a clear division between those debts and debts accrued by the couple during the course of the marriage.
4. Protect your family property and estate plan
You may have an heirloom or property that you want to ensure stays within the family in the case of divorce. Having a prenup in place to keep any cherished items separate and apart from your communal marital assets ensures that the fate of your familial property isn’t left up to the court system or state laws.
A prenup can also address any questions of inheritance and ensure that your estate plan is carried out according to your wishes, in conjunction with a will and living trust.
5. Protect your assets in the event of remarriage
Should you decide to get remarried after your divorce, you’ll be faced with a new set of challenges and complications when it comes to determining how to protect your family as well as your property. A second marriage includes all the complications that already come with combining separate lives and adds the possibility of children, child support, and additional assets to be accounted for.
A prenup for a second or (subsequent) marriage should address all of the concerns of an initial marriage as well as addressing concerns arising from obligations from the previous marriage. It can also spell out the distribution of assets in the case of death of one of the partners, to ensure that person’s children get any intended inheritance - again, in conjunction with a will or living trust.
6. Avoid extensive court proceedings in the event of divorce
A divorce is a painful enough process as is, made even more so by a long, drawn-out and expensive legal process that can cost on average $15,000 per person. And trying to come to an agreement on divvying up your assets and property when your negative feelings towards your former partner are at their highest is challenging on the best day.
A prenup signed ahead of your marriage will at least alleviate some of the headache of fighting over your assets and make the process somewhat smoother, if not easier.
7. Openly communicate and prepare yourself for the possibility of divorce
No one wants to enter marriage thinking about the possibility of its failure, but given the oft-cited divorce rates, it’s a reality impossible to ignore. Having that difficult conversation with your partner before you get married about the potential for divorce and finances, allows you to be open and honest with one another, and prepares you for the difficult conversations that are required in any marriage.
When you’re prepared for the possibility that your marriage could end in divorce, you’re being emotionally realistic. You’re also being open with your partner about your financial status, needs and concerns as you enter marriage.
Also agreeing to having paternity tests right after a child is born, no emotions involved
Sounds like a bad relationship straight up just hearing to have to do that lmao
Hahahahaha
This is absolutely ridiculous! 😂 don't agree to that before you get married. Red flags 🚩
Paternity tests to be mandatory.
@@lbeschrich sounds like you are pro cheating.
Can't agree more. Marriage is riskier than running business. You need to be protected
This is so true. I never thought of it this way but it makes alot of sense. I always imagined prenups were needed only by very rich people but now I see it differently. Good topic.
Experienced divorce lawyer here. I love the video and you creating awareness about the value of prenuptial agreements. However, prenups are complicated documents. I draft them and also have them set aside if they are defective. Prenup laws vary widely from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Speak with an experienced family law attorney in your jurisdiction BEFORE making any wedding plans or ordering wedding invitations! PBD - I’d be happy to discuss the intricacies of prenuptial agreements with you on your TH-cam channel. I have posted many prenup related videos on my own TH-cam channel. Keep up the great work!
loved the insight, thanks for sharing....still won't ever get married tho :)
I can give a fuck how complicated they are. Get it done!!!!
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@jbevolve2023 why?
The insurance and prenup analogy is a great angle to stand on in case of disagreements down the line ✊🙏
The problem with prenups, is that when you ask for, your partner knows you’re anticipating an end before it even starts, which leads to them not wanting to marry you at all, even without a prenup
Known about prenups for years, but I hadn't considered updating a prenup. Great video as always, thanks!
My dad got screwed more than once by not having one. The divorces both sucked him dry emotionally and financially and he died at 55. I'm not going to let that happen to me.
"Holla, We want prenup! We want prenup!" (Yeah!) It's somethin' that you need to have 'Cause when she leave yo' ass, she gon' leave with half"
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Lol, that depends on state laws on divorce. For example: Illinois divorce laws say that division of assets would be 50/50 but it only includes assets acquired within the marriage. So if you have ownership of properties prior to that marriage, they are not subject to the division of assets.
There are Men who do the same thing. Mary J. Blige’s husband is giving her hell like he’s entitled to so much of her earnings.
"18 years,18 years, she have one of your kids got you for 18 years". Lol
@@tamirajohnellestylethe stats are saying the amount of men are lot more than amount of women
You can't predict the future , if your girlfriend kicks up a fuss about a prenup it's a massive red flag imo. Protect yourself first nothing wrong with that ❤😊
My dad died exactly 1 year to when his life insurance went into effect.
Insurance denied my claim to it.
I’m not a fan of the ethics behind life insurance.
Then go in the industry and do it better if you think you can.
TBH just put the money into long term stocks and forget about it. Just set a recurring payment like you would an insurance. Instead of putting thousands of dollars into insurance and fighting just to get a claim if something happens, put it into stocks and you'll have up to hundreds of thousands of dollars that you can fairly easily pull out in emergencies.
There's a reason why insurance companies and their sales people get so rich.
@@distantforest2481 Smart idea. I’mma do that
Thank you for this video. This shook a lot of fear out of me. My partner had never thought of a prenup, and he’s the money maker. I work but I will never make what he makes. I was scared about a prenup cause it sounded like he could leave me and take the house & my car with him because it’s in his name (the car). But I felt it was the most honest thing to do, to explain to him that he needs to protect himself. I got very sad at the thought of losing everything one day or living as though none of what we have is really mine but wow. I love this. This literally would protect both of us. Thank you thank you thank you.
Great video.. also add 50/50 joint child custody to prevent parental alienation.
@TEXT +𝟏 𝟔 𝟏 𝟕 𝟑 𝟗 𝟔 𝟕 𝟖 𝟒 𝟎 dieeeeeeee
agreed
Diplomatically well done Patrick. However I definitely think a kay point you neglected to mention is that the lawyers of both parties should look at the prenup before its signed off. The reason being so that it can never be said that either party signed it under duress, which can get the prenup completely thrown out in many states.
Another factor that should be included in all prenups is mandatory paternity testing with significant penalty clauses if they don't come out clean.
Patric, thank you for all your videos I really learned a lot from you. You have mentioned many times “Iran” and your care about Iranian people which is very much admirable. I wish you put out a video and your point of view about what is happening in Iran, especially women in Iran right now.
Thank you.
Prenuptial is much like a marriage - just a piece of paper 📜 it all lies within yourself, your values and your character
Absolutely 100%
But it is socially enforced...
Exactly my point
If you are not a Christian marriage is just a piece of paper to people. It’s a whole concept people don’t understand outside of Christianity
Better than nothing
Nope. Divorce is a retirement plan for too many women…Better get that paper… or hit the road.
We had a relationship agreement prior to marriage. That was my idea so he knew my intentions where pure....and just a bit of peace mind for him that I didn't want his things I wanted him. We also have a pre nup. It's generous to me and will change the longer we are married. I pay half of almost everything. Even though he earns 5 to five times more. But that's just me. I love to contribute financially...makes me feel good... Fingers crossed we always love each other but this is second time around for us both. Pays to be careful. I recommend EVERYONE get a pre nup so many men get screwed over and it's not fair. Especially when they had wayy more when the relationship started. Anyways that's just my feelings and thoughts.
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I like that! You can give your cousin money out of your money. It eliminates unnecessary arguments.
Why the he!! can't your cousin get a job? The your money my money mentality keeps you broke. Putting your heads together is the best
I agree with you Pat.
Having a prenup is a great idea/insurance for everyone’s peace. ❤️
Your logic is sound at least to me. I feel like it's not just a safety net for all parties but it's a way to get things organized so there's no confusion within marriage. If anyone honestly has an issue with at least discussing things out that should be a giant red flag.
It forces both sides to talk about hard stuff. Most couples don’t
I got married last spring ❤
My wife is a millionaire , she said " no prenup for you babe" 😊❤
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When my bf and I get married, we've agreed we'll get a prenup. I have my income, he has his income, and both of us are the sole heirs to our parents' inheritance. We're equals. That is what a prenup is for, imo: to make sure we have an equal marriage in which divorce doesn't benefit one side over the other.
I mean we get into these marriages and we have this idea that we will all be with the same partner for the rest of our lives but the harsh reality is no one can predict the future and that doesn’t always happen. That’s life you grow apart, what you want today might not be your goals 10 years from now. That’s why it’s always important to get a prenup. It’s not to say you don’t trust each other, but to protect each other, just in case life happens.
I wouldn’t mind signing a prenup if my SO didn’t make me sound like I was greedy and was with him for his bank account. That’s what happened in my last relationship and I was offended. I brought up how that hurt me and he got upset that I was upset. He didn’t know this, and I didn’t dare tell him, but my ex before him made ten times more. He cheated on me and I never made him owe me anything. Never laid a finger on him, never cussed at him, never destroyed any of his properties. I just walked away crying.. he said my refusal to take revenge and only showed him love really killed him. He said it was “the worse breakup.” He tried coming back months later, but I didn’t take him back. When I rejected him I rejected his 7 figures, too.
I wish my last ex knew this about my past so he’d stop suspecting that I was only dating him for his money and that’s why he thinks I should sign a prenup. I’m still offended by those words to this day.
Your past behaviour is not a predictor of future behaviour. Yourself cannot guarantee how you will behave in the future. Hence his request for prenup may have upset your value system… but it still was an honest way to protect you two from future conflict. You put your high ego and value system up front and preferred to be outraged rather than valuing the relationship. Good for you, it showed you that your ego matters more to you than what you thought this relationship could bring to you.
A judge will not honor a pre nup that is completely one sided. If the rich husband says you get nothing, the judge throws it out. A prenup has to be fair for both parties. A 50 50 prenup is fair. But today, most men lose 80%.
After literally tearing somebody a new asshole - I have to tell you brother you are loved and right on right on the mark thank you
I'm curious as to the gender of the people giving pushback against the idea of a prenup.
The pushback are women of course, and weak Beta simp males.☝🏾
Definitely mainly women
Not even a surprise at this point.
the ones that think they are special
@@solomoncooper6491 we call those kinds of women "Jezebel's" sir lol
My mom.never bought my dad a gift but my dad always bought her agift every single birthday year...and we never gift each other. Love is not about giving gifts its about the love you have for your family members
We have been separated for a long time, friends, almost 24 years and have been living with someone
@Maribeth Cordon
Adultery, own it, accept it, feel guilty, repent and change your sin. No pity, no sugar coating it.
Women want prenupts too. I just wish there was more advice on how to go about getting one and make sure it's good and fair, and adjustable like if a spouse's health deteriorates or if one spouse works for the other spouse's company instead of working at their normal job which stops them from growing their retirement account... life changes especially when you're older.
Lol. Women don't need prenups, only the extreme minority of women provide for a man, and even then, it's only temporary.
A prenup being “fair” is simple, I keep all of my assets I had prior to meeting you, any debt I take on during the marriage will be in my name and vice versa
Prenup isn't enforceable in a number of places. Best to check that before dealing with the tension caused by pushing for a prenup
If she doesn't want to sign a piece of paper saying she's not it for the money. Then she's disloyal and using you...
@@randysavage1 that's the spirit
Easy way to filter out red flags but underutilised
@@edwin5419 😂 nah, it’s just the truth, but sorry it hurt your feelings that people love using others SOLELY for their OWN and only their own benefits
Outside US yes. But they are valid in most US states, right?
Thanks for this video Pat. Men around the world are thanking you for helping bring this necessity to the masses, especially the Red Pill audience who's been leading the charge.
Great content!!! We didn’t have a Prenup but we DID set up Bank Accounts exactly as you said.
Only thing we needed to do after we got married was make each other beneficiaries on Accounts.
AND also add each other to Business Accounts in case of death (since they don’t have beneficiaries).
🌟💡🌟Do you have a video about “end of life” planning???
As an experienced wife of an Entrepreneur, I wanted my future husband to continue having his freedom and also NO arguments. My wisdom and his willingness worked 💞😇🙏🏽 exactly as you say here.
Plus, I wanted to know when we were dating that he was truly in love with me and not what I have (my property as you said). As my home was the newer and nicer home. His home was trashed from cats, dogs, etc. Absolutely gross!!! But we agreed after we got married that we both put money into repairs and fixing it up. WE enjoy working together.
Truly better together!!!! 💞
You’re right!!! We’d inspire each other in business and our businesses grew more and more from being together. He even turned me into an Entrepreneur when I was simply comfortable managing other businesses. Forever changed for the better. So grateful.
My love language is words and gifts... I love to surprise my man with vacations too so I saw it as a win-win keeping my own account. He saw where I was coming from and agreed.
When the movie “War Room” came out... I said, “Look! This is what I protected our marriage from. Loving life together with peace in our home, lots of laughter and are free to truly enjoy each other without this stress and arguing over finances.”
I am very pro marriage but I agree with some of these comments...if you aren't willing to take a loss than don't get married. I think instead of learning about prenups we need to be learning how we can make a happy marriage last. My wife was 18 and I was 20 when we got married 13 years ago..we have 4 children and want more. We fight but we fight through our issues. We don't let anything go too long.
Best advice..realize you're both imperfect and in most cases you're both to blame for unhappiness. Instead of looking out for your rights, think about you obligations to your wife/husband. Love is not about you.
By the way we have a common law marriage. The state had nothing to do with what we believe is between us and God. We had friends and family witness the wedding and we chose to serve each other for the rest of our lives. We are happy
9And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire.
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My ex husband lost the only signed copy of our prenuptial agreement and when we got a divorce I honored it fully. Not having a job and owing a good amount in student loans. Sometimes you divorce the exact person you married. Their loss.
This was so educational.
Would like to know your thoughts on Wills & Trusts
Thank you 🙂
It's sad to say because when you get married, you are marrying your best friend and lover. If I was young and getting married today, Pre-up all the way.
Y’all need to bring CGA on the show for a full breakdown. It’s not worth it roll the dice if you want!
Yea, long overdue Coachstradamus in Valuetainment :-)
If he does, he risks TH-cam shadow banning his channel.
Coach Greg Adams will break down that marriage wheel and show you how most marriages end up! He’s also funny as all get out too.
Exactly Coach Greg Adams the only one calling out the fact that the prenup isn't worth the paper it's printed on. PBD's wife could pull the plug at any time and turn his life upside down. Especially since he got married in California she'd take half easily. I love PBD but this advice is outdated.
I was married for 7 years after dating for a year. Totally fairytale wedding. After 7 years we grew apart and had so many differences and we both walked away. Thankfully she only wanted 30%. I definitely want to do a prenuptial agreement next time around... really dodged a bullet.
I love this Patrick
Great video Pat - very logical and convincing argument to get a prenup! You’ve hit the nail on its head!
It’s interesting to read the opinions on not getting a prenup. Yes, a prenup is a legal contract, and when done correctly with competent legal counsel, it is very clear and holds weight in court (if you live in the right state).
What else is a legal contract? Marriage. Marriage is a very poorly executed and ambiguous legal contract, which allows family law attorneys to manipulate their clients into fighting until one party is zeroed out.
A prenup (and postnup) serve to correct a terrible and unconscionable contract. Most anyone who has been through the family law system understands the gravity of these concepts.
The solution - prenup, or just avoid marriage altogether. (This includes “common law marriage” - check your state laws, and use a cohabitation agreement if necessary, or just do not move in together.)
As a twice married man, trust this advice.
damn, what a failure
Great video pat. Thank you for all you do!!
41% get divorced. 20% get separated without divorcing, 15% continue living together miserably, 15% get stuck in a boring marriage, 8% continue living together out of convenience, and only 1% get a happy marriage till death do them part. Chances are you're not gonna be that 1%.
😂😂 fuck you ill be that 1%,why you killing my dreams.
Three things to find out about your future spouse before the wedding day:
1) Find out their credit score and any outstanding debts.
2) Find out what hereditary diseases run in their family ie Huntington's cholera, sickle cell anemia, etc.
3) Find out if they have a criminal history.
Sometimes people don't like to talk about these things.
Is one supposed to find the "true love" or "love of your life" and then go through your check list before settling down with "the 1"?
@@theluvchilds1192 There is a cite that lets you check a person's criminal history for a small fee.
I'm sure there is a way to check a person's credit report also.
The medical history may be more difficult to investigate.
ALL these things are worth knowing before you say "I do".
My pay check was " our" money. Her paycheck was her money.
She bought me a birthday gift every year from " our" money. Not really a gift...
why was it not "our" money ;o
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Do what I did, when I was in a frail marriage, I quit my job and got Alimony, my wife was the money maker after that!
Yes sir! I love my partner and we eloped at a court right after we got a prenup!
WHO wants prenups?!
I got prenup! 😊
EDIT: I didn’t know we can edit prenups every 5 years 😮
See a lot of couples that don’t understand this get married over emotional reasons, but leave when the emotions are gone.
Great advice as always.
What God joins together let no one separate.
Great video Pat. Loved that you mentioned marriage is very very hard. You said it man.
Lmfao 😂best thing to do is not incur the liability of marriage in the 1st place
Yup. Prenups get thrown out in court at a judges discretion. There is absolutely zero reason for a Man to get legally married in 2022 and it accomplishes nothing for a Mam that he cannot accomplish without legal marriage. Period.
And that is a fact.
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Depends on what you want really
@@legion24100 to limit my liability as much as possible I’m personally not comfortable with a 3rd party telling me what to do with my money . Even my monthly payments to support my son were discussed between me and his mother no third party
@@crooked52h again your values and principles may not align with others...some may want to sacrifice liability for marriage... religion may play a part in that...culture as well
The best explanation on a prenup and the details !!
I am a licensed attorney and half of the points made in this video is misinformation. Firstly, in almost every state, assets and debts acquired before the marriage are considered separate property, not marital property. Inheritance and gifts are also automatically separate property in almost every state. You don’t need a pre nup to lay this out, it’s already default state law. Also you cannot contract away your obligations to your children after divorce. This is any easy way to invalidate your pre nup. If you’re reading this, please actually consult with a family law attorney in your state.
@Ed I call bullshit on your claims. I highly doubt you are well versed in any state laws , which state you don't reside in.
Thank u for the clarification
Still we won't take risk will have a prenuptial don't trust today's law system, it's almost favors to women's.
Yes if Mr David is right ,then how would lawyers like you will make money.
yeah… this isn’t true lol.
just went through a divorce where a property was gifted to me very early on in the marriage. in FL you can’t own & occupy a property that isn’t jointly titled if you are married.
so property was jointly titled & even though i had a gift letter only addressed to me stating it was a gift to ME, my wife was entitled to half simply because her name was on title. it would’ve been up to the judges discretion to decide whether or not i “deserved” the property. wasn’t worth the gamble. i offered her a sizable percentage of equity to buy her out. wasn’t half necessarily but still a huge amount.
divorce is an absolute losing game for a man without a pre nup.
Funny thing is that I watched him on tiktok talking about prenup, wasn't sure what prenup was about.. So I hurried to TH-cam to find out, and boom, he is still same person telling me about what prenup is😂😂Now that I finally understand the concept, I am definitely getting a prenup.😊
Rollo tomassi did a great video of this last week it’s a bit long but rather be informed than Ignorant
Got a prenup. Got to in this day and age. So glad I did.
The problem is MEN need to enforce the prenup before marriage (if they are silly enough to get married). Men get manipulated by the woomin by her saying "you dont trust me", or theyl cry like little kids and the men cave and not get it. If a woomin has a problem with a prenup, drop her, she cannot be trusted. because she can also say she was pressured into the prenup. You as the man need to be willing to walk away if that happens.
Hi Sir Patrick it’s always nice to hear from you thank you. Request please about corporate culture,We are all learning a lot here in our house.
Half way through your video and I’m more scared than ever to get married lol
Fantastic video! Thank you for your insights and advice.
Patrick, thank you. I’m actually proposing to my GF soon. I’d like to set up something. I love her and trust her, but we must trust but verify.
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lol get on that knee
brother... keep your finances separate. their is NO reason to share one account. the only person who could benefit is her and the ONLY one who could be screwed over is you. why take that risk. if she demands everything is 50/50 hers on paper regardless, leave her. women will turn into your worst nightmare , they know exactly what can destroy you and they use it all against you. i wish you the best, remember the likelihood of your marriage succeeding is under 40% and even less than 20% if she's got more than 5 bodies. thats a fact. less than 5 bodies 80% success rate, over 5 bodies , 20% chance of successful marriage due to her being unable to pair pair bond with you on a deep level cus shes ben run through.
Good luck hope you don’t come back in 20 years complaining about being divorced raped
Ask her about the prenup and see how she reactions. If she blows a gasket or gets defensive DO NOT MARRY HER
If ur not working for your wife and kids your working for yourself and u truly don’t believe she or the kids love u that much that they will never turn thier back on u
This video makes a lot of good points. When you get married you need to be all in and yes burn the boats, there is no way out other then death. Both parties have to make it work if your not 1000% committed the risk is to high for a divorce simply don't get married.
WOW Patrick once again powerful and very important information that we rarely learn until it’s too late but these are things that we can teach our children and the thought behind it and how you present it to your future partner is so logical and yet kind and a very palatable way to approach this very delicate subject. You had my full attention right from where you started speaking about the yours, mine and our checking accounts. Also how you handle the part of step children. I had a beautiful relationship destroyed by a step child once. As always your subject matter on every subject you approach is very informative and interesting and very applicable.
Thanks again for the great and usable advice.
Something I learned from the prenup, marriage and subsiquent divorce. My life looked so different from the original terms of the prenup, it was basically worthless.
A different province, house, fledging business, investment and retirement accounts. None of which were even a thought at the time. Ten years later, I paid her more money then she had ever contributed in the entire time we were together.
I just don’t think a legal marriage is worth it from a male perspective anymore. As Tomi Larhen said, all men are trash. We are nothing but toxic, walking bank accounts for the gain of the opposite sex. No thank you ✌🏻
She did contribute; otherwise you wouldn't have stuck around all those years. 🙄
Even staying with a man that thinks like you is a nightmare; diminishing all her contributions because they are not financial is dishonest. May God repay her for her patience.
@@denfolo5224you have no idea the circumstances of his situation, or why he is saying what he is saying. Perhaps he worked for years to build a life and she cheated and ended up taking a big portion. You sound like the type to just take a woman’s side (see I can draw quick conclusions too). You’re either a chick who definitely requires a prenup or a simpish dude who’s gonna learn he needed one.
@@jesscbf6688 You have no idea of her situation. So, I am still waiting for the part where you disprove what I said, with evidence.
My gender doesn't matter nor does the simp labeling; can't get to me. Off to my dinner. Wish me bon appetit 😊.
Pat, you are a wise man. This is very relevant in this modern world. This should be put into law. This action supports marriages. With this advice, marriages will increase.
My old man always tells me,
"Daayem, if you wanna know and predict what a woman will be like as your wife 5, 10, 20, 30 years down the road, look at what her mother is like as a person and as a wife. That's exactly how your woman will treat you if/when she's your wife."
maybe in india lmfao
Depends which part of the world you live in and where u found your spouse. In some parts of the world, Marriage still holds the traditional meaning symbol of family. But for US and most western countries, Marriage is like a "business contract" so Yeah Prenup all the way for the latter.
I have 5 siblings who are married for years now with kids. Three married their 1st SO, 2 married their 2nd SO. None of them signed a prenup. My parents never had a prenup either. They married until my mom passed away. That’s how deep the trust and commitment is. God forbid if anything happens, I know my siblings and I think I know my in-laws well enough, that they’re not the type that fights or are vengeful, so it’d be an easy process.
Just be careful of who you marry. If you marry someone you feel you HAVE TO sign a prenup, it says something about you, your SO, and how you view marriage.
It's this type of thinking that gets people screwed. If you feel you have to get a prenup it just to keep the lawyers out. Way too many people get into marriages thinking their partner is perfect and don't need to sign a prenup (Same positive mindset you're encouraging) and then the SO turn nasty towards the other during and before divorce. No matter what you can't predict how someone will be in the future. Wanting a prenup doesn't mean the marriage will fail. The prenup just a safety measure like insurance. Otherwise you're telling people to not plan entering marriages.
Sometimes you never know. The most trusted people can often commit betrayal. Your family has been LUCKY thus far. Your naïve mind can cause you harm.
Men are careful who they marry, but 60 % still get destroyed in family court and become homeless. You cannot argue true statistics. These are facts, not Disney and Snowhite. Why does a female that wants to be independent always get 10 years of alimony? Get two prenups, one from her so she cannot say she was pressured to sign.
Excellent advice, bravo 👏
I think there should be a pre-coital agreement, ie. a, Can she prove she is on contraception. b, does the man get to decide if their baby is aborted? c, is the man free from personal and financial responsibility if there is a pregnancy. d, Does the woman agree to a paternity test so she can prove the child is his. This will do 2 things, it will get them to both think before they have sex and I think there will be less abortions because the man may think twice before moving forward.