Does the Alesis Vortex Wireless 2 work with iPad?! Unboxing and keytar history / comparison
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In this bit different episode of DIY Music, Jesse unboxes and tries out the new Alesis Vortex Wireless 2 keytar and discusses its many similarities to the Roland Lucina and Ax-synth , its historical ties to the Yamaha KX-5 , and then he tries out the wireless dongle with his iPad Pro gen 1 using the official Apple USB to lightning adapter.
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The full Jan Hammer video: • Jan Hammer BBC Rock Sc...
“What do you put in the storage compartments in the back?”
Alesis: “Oh, you put your weed in there!" 😂
7:10 'This second compartment on the back?'
'You put your weed in there.'
If you are confused about the location of the storage space, it is used for the backup battery .
The Alesis has a midi out connect it with a Bluetooth/ Midi adapter and activate
Bluetooth Midi in GarageBand
Thanks for the shout out! Yeag, the Vortex isn't perfect, but like you said, it's one of like three current options. Idk, I didn't pay for mine so I can't talk dollar value.
I store extra batteries in my compartments
that's a really good idea
thats what i do
I keep the broken knobs from the front in there...
The Pitch bend is an awkward place, it's not a natural feeling at all. Thanks man, good info...
blame Jan Hammer! :^)
@@DIYMusic I won't..He's just an individual..The company should know better...cheers
Cool video I just ordered one
Pause exactly at 0.13 🤣
that second compartment is for when you are jamming for hours and you need to switch batteries fast on stage lol
edit: ah yeah you gave me a great idea, i can also store some weed in it lmao
The mod strip is configurable to either stay at the last value, or return to a set value on release. You just have to choose which in the preset editor software.
the bag is a dust cover lol
actually good to keep hairs and stuff out of between your keys that normally would end up there even when using flight cases
I had my back to store due to the "hang-notes" issue! Happy to know that many people are not having those issues. Alesis may have solved that bug.
i believe there was a firmware update
i use the compartment on the back to store carrots in case i get hungry during a gig
a MOST EXCELLENT reply
So some things like the sustain or the pitch bend don't work depending on the app you use?? that sucks, I'm stuck between getting this or a Lucina
of the two, i would recommend the lucina... similar feel and build quality, but much more useful with the internal sounds. the only reasons to go with the vortex are if definitely need wireless or the tilt sensor
@@DIYMusic do you know if this works with the first ipad mini?
Snack compartments in the back! lol. I am planning on buying my first keytar soon (vortex v2) and I feel like the compartment will be handy to keep my usb cable in just so I don't misplace it from the keytar. I wonder if the dongle will fit.
yep, it does
Hello, I have a question, I lost my wireless usb and I want to buy a new one, do you know if a new or used usb can be paired with a keyboard?
yes it can-check out the alesis support article here: www.alesis.com/kb/article/2388#pair
Thank you for taking the time to do this but please sit and watch your video all the way through and tell me that music doesn’t annoy the shit out of you. Also...Surely it’s best to review a product when you’ve been using it for six months? Liked the yan hammer clip though! It really took me back as I remember watching it on a program called rockschool maaaany years ago🙂
Oh for goodness sake I don’t want to see anyone else take a product and its accessories out of a friggin box!! Why are people still doing this?! I’ve been waiting for somebody to explain its use with an iPad since it came out and I was so excited about watching this video.....Just crack on with it dude!!!
12:12 for the impatient, entitled white folks. thanks George MiLo
@@DIYMusic well, I guess I must be in the "entitled white folks" camp, whatever that means. The person commenting about your inability to move it along was completely spot on in my opinion. You get nowhere fast in this video, and what I mean by that is you lack any kind of energy and you draaaaaag it all out with no real direction. The commentor was doing you a favor, seriously. I'm pretty sure the impatience crossed all racial and cultural barriers, my friend.
@@grajmahal do what I do--skip ahead. the playhead is there for a reason, friend.
@@DIYMusic Yeah, we all can do that. It was a little constructive criticism to help you improve your channel. But hey, not everyone is into getting subscribers- so be it.
@@grajmahal yeah man, this is just a hobby, it doesn't make me anything, I'm not serious about it... I'm a professional media creator in my dayjob, and I don't wanna do things "the right way" for this channel. I know how, but I have a toddler and other hobbies and just don't care enough honestly. If I was trying to make this into a career, that'd be a totally different story
As keytar actions go the behringer ms101has the best action I have used since I parted with my old Roland sh101. Although it’s not strictly a keytar but has the neck attachment if you do desire. It’s only monophonic but can transmit poly information and velocity.
What type of adaptor do you need to connect it to an iPad? And how do I connect the audio from the iPad to a mixing desk? Thanks.
you need a lightning to USB adapter to connect the dongle to the ipad, and as far as connecting to a mixing desk I’d recommend recording on the ipad itself and then transferring the file over icloud or whatever… otherwise you’ll have to just use the headphone out, which is ok but not the best since it involves the headphone preamp-if you do that, just make sure to have the volume down 3 clicks from the top to avoid clipping
@@DIYMusic Thanks for the info! So what about using an iPad for live gigs - is outputting the audio via the headphone out the only way to do it in a live show, or can you get an audio interface for iPad that will do it better? Thanks.
@@neilkendall5499 you can use a powered usb hub to connect an audio interface and the keyboard or vortex dongle to the camera connection kit and that works perfect for me on stage or in my studio, for years now.
Good video l just got one today . I felt the same way about the old 49 key versions and they were more money than l wanted to spend . I got a used mint condition one from Sam Ash Direct for $233.97
+ Free Shipping . I like all your videos l am going test it with my android tablet using the OTG cable . Now l'm going to finish watching your videos. Keep up the good work. Have you checked out the Yamaha Sonogenic SHS-500 Keytar if so what do you think about it l might get one of those also after some research.
Hi Mr DIY...re sound....are you jacking from iPad...or from the Alesis Vortex ?
This helped me think about whether to buy to use with my ipad in my cover band. Thanks!
How about the duration of the batteries when using it wirelessly, how long is its duration? :)
not sure, sold this puppy a couple months back--but I never used it enough to kill the batts. been lotsa changes since I posted this, and more to come soon
I cannot for the life of me find the USB to lightning adapter on apples website, help? amazing video by the way!! im so close to being able to play my vortex with my band and am glad i watched this.
got mine off amazon… there’s a used one currently available for like $14! amzn.to/44763qO
So du u need to download the app on the iPad?
yes you need to download whatever app you're going to be using--but there is no vortex app, no. it just works with coremidi
Could you please tell me wich ipad you use? Could Vortex work with Apple Ipad 1?
Oh my god I own a Vortex II as well and I love the thing! It’s so fun!
Hey what is the app u used in ipad??
it’s Geoshred
What apps are compatible with the vortex wireless 2?
My guess is that compartment is meant for spare batteries
"now with secret storage compartments!" haha
Jump to 12:12 for ipad connection
did latency bother you at all?
I experienced no perceptible latency using the dongle that came with the keytar… in comparison, boards like the korg microkey air always have latency and it’s sometimes unusably bad-which is because they rely on standard bluetooth, which the vortex gets around with its own proprietary tech
@@DIYMusic Thank you for taking your time to reply! I was wondering whether buying the wireless dongle and sticking it into a big male jack (like what guitars and mikes do to go wireless) of the Alesis 1 would work... Anyone tried this, or it's totally different incompatible tech?
I'm getting this Keytar too
You would need nine sliders to fully control Hammond drawbars
aww crap
I love that there is storage built into the instrument.
Malo, Malo..... bla...bla .bla... ????????????????
How do I get one of these KEYTAR's in white?
they have not made one in white since the original non-wireless one, and I cannot recommend that keytar less.... but the newest one does come in a special edition red
note: I discovered that the aftertouch is not remappable to anything useful like modulation--it just sits there like a lump existing but doesn't do anything else... as such, you either will need to be plugged into a sound generator that natively interprets channel aftertouch the way you want / is configurable to use it, or you will need a midi interpretation software like midipipe (on mac) or midiox / bome's midi translator (pc) to transform the aftertouch messages into modulation or whatever you want them to be
I ended up using a combination of MIDI-OX and loopMIDI (to generate a virtual midi port to use as an output for MIDI-OX and input to my synth: www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html ) to get up and running with my favorite "rock guitar" patch in kontakt
Have you tested it with the remote control so you can use the vortex far from the iPad?
yes in the video I'm using the wireless dongle, and it works great
Hello. Can you write what program do you use on iPad? and how to connect wireless adapter to iPad? I have an official usb adapter to ipad but when it's pluged in - nothing happen. Help please
Connect by a print / SD card connection (with USB) flick the vortex over to battery mode not USB and it should work. Not sure about new iPad but works on iPad mini 2.
what's a print/sd card connection? Do you mean an Apple Camera Connection Kit?
@@tronlady1 yes camera SD card with USB, you can get email on eBay and does not need to be from Apple!
Them* not email sorry spell checker on my phone.
So the bag given is not a good Gig bag. If someone were to buy this what would you recommend as a good Gig Bag?
well the bummer is Alesis used to offer a bag specially designed for the vortex, but they stopped for some reason... I am currently looking for one--my thinking is a guitar gig bag would be a better fit than a keyboard bag
DIY Music I use a bass guitar case for mine. I can actually fit 2 vortex’s in it.
I use a bass case as well. My Road Runner bass case didn't fit, but a Thomann case did...
Can this be used with garage band in the most recent iOS?
yep! works great
DIY Music with Jesse Bond could I use this with my iPhone?
I can’t get sound out of garage band when I’m hooked up
not sure why that would be, my dude... it was plug and play for me
have you tried updating everything / restarting app/device/unplugging and plugging back in again? standard computer stuff
Hey Mr. DIY, new subscriber here. Have you tried configuring MIDI split-key so you can have the drum pads play a different instrument from the key bed? It seems you should be able to map the pads with a splitter in the software. Most DAWs include a sampler instrument where you can split a keyboard. Not yet sure if the pads also hit the same keys as in the key bed though.
might be able to assign them to different midi channels, which would be the easiest way to get a multichannel module to play different sounds from it (like the korg module pro $20 add-on they just released)
i’ll have to try that!