The New 52 had some good stories, I'll give it that. The problem with the New 52 is that it pretty much caused irreparable harm to DC comics! It's very simple: When there is no history or backstory and everything can be rebooted there's no reason to get invested.
I always thought that DC would've been smart to have literally set the New 52 on a separate Earth, while also continuing their old continuity for lifelong fans in a similar fashion to how Marvel established the Ultimate's continuity. But the difference would be that after Flashpoint, the Earth Prime Flash finds himself living on the New 52 Earth where everything is different. Then both continuities would have a storyline to lead into, that being a crossover between the Earth Prime Justice League; who's arrived looking for their missing Flash and the New 52 Justice League. Then Flash can leave the New 52 Earth to return to his normal Earth, while the New 52 just goes on as its own line side by side with the original line of comics. Too me if they'd done it that way then they could've really emphasized new ideas and characters to attract new readers without upsetting the old ones because their continuity isn't going away.
I feel like The New 52 got too much hate just because of the whole reboot aspect but I think it still did bring a lot of awesome elements for characters old and new that are still kept canon to this day even after more than 10 years of their inception
Having a solid state of continuity like what Marvel did certainly had just merits. Just wish the DCEU on the big screen would've followed a proper direction as well, and not rush things.
I personally don’t like the New 52 Billy Batson version being an immature, troublemaking doofus and in his SHAZAM form, he is literally lack of experience, and less powerful. SMDH
There were too many stories that had horror aspects to them for me to be committed to. I just wanted the same stories that were similar just being told before the new 52, but with more characters in this setting, and a complete reboot for Batman, especially if they were going to do it that way.
I’m very very new to comics. So new in fact that I just bought my first comic book this week (im 34) after looking around online I learned a lot was overwhelmed a lot but ultimately settled my entry point into this medium on the new 52 Batman run.
I also still maintained the new 52 was a mistake and basically getting rid of all their legacy characters like Wally west my flash and ruining Superman Clark Kent and making him a complete jerk was a horrible idea and ruining Tim drake my robin way the final straw for me and I was so happy that rebirth came around and fixed everything and gave me back my Superman with his wife Lois lane and his son Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self which was fantastic and tons of fun at least in my opinion before that got destroyed by bendis and his garbage but that’s a topic for another day my point is the new 52 was horrible idea and ruining my favorite characters was just garbage and messed up at least in my opinion.
They did tim drake and wally DIRTY Its a damn crime the only thing i liked is what they did with the magic side of things everything else was mediocre and terrible
I’m currently reading the Animal Man run, and it’s genuinely sooooo good! I’m to the Brother Blood arc and wow… animal Man is maybe my favorite comic character when it comes to grief stories
Great 👍🏾 Job Adam, I do feel that I know more about the New52 now…I am not a fan of some of the decisions made , the decisions to make Barbara Gordon Batgirl again in particular…I understand that some felt that if Bruce could overcome having His back broken why not Barbara…however IMO Batman is Bruce at His Best & Oracle is Babs!!! ( also loved Stephanie Brown’s Batgirl run) …Anyway Keep Up The Great Work Adam
Why were all of DC’s non superhero books war titles? War hasn’t been popular since the 1950s. WTF reads war comics today? Are they that out of touch? The people running DC must be as old as the people running the country lol.
I found the new 52 to be a complete and utter trainwreck especially with how the new 52 treated the teen titans superman and Superboy conner kent because holy shit all those series I mentioned were all horrible not to mentioned getting rid of a lot of legacy characters like wally west was just a big slap in the face for us Wally west flash fans myself included at least in my opinion, that being said though one good thing came out of the new 52 was Scott Snyder's batman which was really good and that's about it. Everything else was just garbage and nothing made any sense at least in my opinion.
Disney did the same thing with the Star Wars franchise….but instead of creating a catalyst event or reason they just said “hey…all this stuff you knew is not real…and that’s that 😂 so Abeloth…the Jedi civil war, sith/jedi war, sith internal conflict, super luke skywalker, the Yuuzhan Vong, etc just don’t exist…and here’s Rey 😂
The difference is that Star Wars prioritizes movies, and DC prioritizes comics. It honestly made more sense for Disney to ignore non-movie canon because most fans were not familiar with it. That being said, I think Disney has done a great job with canon comics and novels.
Sure, post crisis superman got split into 2, and when they merge again, post crisis and new 52 also merge but this new timeline still missing some stuff like legion of superheroes and justice society due to Dr Manhattan, he actually responsible for splitting superman up for keep him weak, because he scare of superman, anyway, when they fight, superman convince Dr Manhattan to fix everything and he FIXED everything
I love it! It was ambitious and refreshing…and flashpoint being the catalyst was perfect to me, even if it wasn’t intended to be. DC will always be my favorite and best of them all IMO ❤ *And DC animated Movies are 100x better then MCU films 🤷🏾♂️
Where is the rest of explaining Knightfall? Where is the rest of explaining Born again? I’ve been waiting so long I’m about to make the video myself. 🤷🏽♂️😂
The new 52 end so what did they revert to old universd or reboot aga8n or is it all still in the 52 rebooted timeline just not throwing the label on everything
You're giving way too much power to the nine people on Twitter that had problem with the way women were portrayed those people don't count and don't matter they were so few in number. And those people are not people that buy the books we buy the books they just yell about it
I know pal. Anyone that doesn’t look like you is a personal attack on you. Forget about the fact that there’s been more diverse characters since the 70’s especially with the Justice League and X-Men. Now that you are seeing it, it hurts that people make characters that aren’t your ethnic group. I guess just stop watching anything and make your own stories.
@@Kaitheone2 Sure thing kiddo. Because that’s the exact same context as some weakling constant victim crying about the fact that other people exist. Can’t have anything or anyone be different or you’ll cry. But keep thinking you’re better than woke people who do the same thing.
A lot of times he acted like a complete jerk and bully, as well as the fact that he threatened people's lives if they didn't follow the law, especially in the beginning.
Aside from Forever Evil, I personally quite enjoyed the The New 52 Teen Titans comic as well as "The Ravagers". While I wasn't too big on the fact that they made my girl Rose a straight-up villain (though it got better), I was quite bumped out when the latter ended on a cliffhanger with no resolution in sight.
@@panthergod A fictional alien refugee became Earth’s invincible crime fighting hero who is definitely inspired by Moses, John Carter and Samson thanks to both Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.
The New 52 had some good stories, I'll give it that. The problem with the New 52 is that it pretty much caused irreparable harm to DC comics! It's very simple: When there is no history or backstory and everything can be rebooted there's no reason to get invested.
It’s been over 10 years since DC invented the New 52.
Some fans loved it and some fans hated it.
I'm confused too.
Crazy that the flash caused this twice
I think the new 52 did wonders for the Flash, Aquaman and GL. I also like how the New 52 Supes had a little edge to him.
Batman's book was the best
Court of owls
End game
Death of the family
I like how it put his underwear on the inside.
52 Aquaman & the Justice League are my favorites
Shazam and justice league new 52 was amazing
I agree. Some of the titles were hit or miss but there were some good ones like Aquaman, Justice League and a few others.
I always thought that DC would've been smart to have literally set the New 52 on a separate Earth, while also continuing their old continuity for lifelong fans in a similar fashion to how Marvel established the Ultimate's continuity. But the difference would be that after Flashpoint, the Earth Prime Flash finds himself living on the New 52 Earth where everything is different. Then both continuities would have a storyline to lead into, that being a crossover between the Earth Prime Justice League; who's arrived looking for their missing Flash and the New 52 Justice League. Then Flash can leave the New 52 Earth to return to his normal Earth, while the New 52 just goes on as its own line side by side with the original line of comics. Too me if they'd done it that way then they could've really emphasized new ideas and characters to attract new readers without upsetting the old ones because their continuity isn't going away.
Dude sounds like a waiter telling us tonight’s specials when listing the top New 52 stories.
I feel like The New 52 got too much hate just because of the whole reboot aspect but I think it still did bring a lot of awesome elements for characters old and new that are still kept canon to this day even after more than 10 years of their inception
Having a solid state of continuity like what Marvel did certainly had just merits.
Just wish the DCEU on the big screen would've followed a proper direction as well, and not rush things.
I personally don’t like the New 52 Billy Batson version being an immature, troublemaking doofus and in his SHAZAM form, he is literally lack of experience, and less powerful. SMDH
Batman has had good story arcs his entire existence in DC. The court of Owls was another added layer to the mythos of the Dark Knight.
There were too many stories that had horror aspects to them for me to be committed to.
I just wanted the same stories that were similar just being told before the new 52, but with more characters in this setting, and a complete reboot for Batman, especially if they were going to do it that way.
Great job Adam breaking everything down
I Absolutely loved the new 52 Reboot it's a shame that Shazam never got his own new 52 comic series
Really I love Shazam
@@panasheruvera8842 I'm a big fan of Shazam
I’m very very new to comics. So new in fact that I just bought my first comic book this week (im 34) after looking around online I learned a lot was overwhelmed a lot but ultimately settled my entry point into this medium on the new 52 Batman run.
Forever Evil was fantastic! 😎👍
I also still maintained the new 52 was a mistake and basically getting rid of all their legacy characters like Wally west my flash and ruining Superman Clark Kent and making him a complete jerk was a horrible idea and ruining Tim drake my robin way the final straw for me and I was so happy that rebirth came around and fixed everything and gave me back my Superman with his wife Lois lane and his son Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self which was fantastic and tons of fun at least in my opinion before that got destroyed by bendis and his garbage but that’s a topic for another day my point is the new 52 was horrible idea and ruining my favorite characters was just garbage and messed up at least in my opinion.
They did tim drake and wally DIRTY Its a damn crime the only thing i liked is what they did with the magic side of things everything else was mediocre and terrible
Should have kept Wonder Woman and Superman together
@@Raj-qh7ic I can agree with that
@@JohnGoetzGaming no it's a horrible ship that serves no purpose being in comics.
I’m currently reading the Animal Man run, and it’s genuinely sooooo good! I’m to the Brother Blood arc and wow… animal Man is maybe my favorite comic character when it comes to grief stories
Great 👍🏾 Job Adam, I do feel that I know more about the New52 now…I am not a fan of some of the decisions made , the decisions to make Barbara Gordon Batgirl again in particular…I understand that some felt that if Bruce could overcome having His back broken why not Barbara…however IMO Batman is Bruce at His Best & Oracle is Babs!!! ( also loved Stephanie Brown’s Batgirl run) …Anyway Keep Up The Great Work Adam
New 52 has the best stories I've ever read period
Why were all of DC’s non superhero books war titles? War hasn’t been popular since the 1950s. WTF reads war comics today? Are they that out of touch? The people running DC must be as old as the people running the country lol.
I found the new 52 to be a complete and utter trainwreck especially with how the new 52 treated the teen titans superman and Superboy conner kent because holy shit all those series I mentioned were all horrible not to mentioned getting rid of a lot of legacy characters like wally west was just a big slap in the face for us Wally west flash fans myself included at least in my opinion, that being said though one good thing came out of the new 52 was Scott Snyder's batman which was really good and that's about it. Everything else was just garbage and nothing made any sense at least in my opinion.
Overhated saga. Supes in justice league stories was dope
Thank you so much
Also he was involved with the baddest babe of all "WONDER WOMAN " HELL YEAH
Its crazy that dc didnt plan any of this. They off the cuff just went for it. Its impressive and sad at the same time
Please explain Rebirth
Harley quin too sexualised its harley quin thats like saying a stripper is being sexualised
Disney did the same thing with the Star Wars franchise….but instead of creating a catalyst event or reason they just said “hey…all this stuff you knew is not real…and that’s that 😂 so Abeloth…the Jedi civil war, sith/jedi war, sith internal conflict, super luke skywalker, the Yuuzhan Vong, etc just don’t exist…and here’s Rey 😂
The difference is that Star Wars prioritizes movies, and DC prioritizes comics. It honestly made more sense for Disney to ignore non-movie canon because most fans were not familiar with it. That being said, I think Disney has done a great job with canon comics and novels.
Could you do explain rebirth that confused me a lot
Sure, post crisis superman got split into 2, and when they merge again, post crisis and new 52 also merge but this new timeline still missing some stuff like legion of superheroes and justice society due to Dr Manhattan, he actually responsible for splitting superman up for keep him weak, because he scare of superman, anyway, when they fight, superman convince Dr Manhattan to fix everything and he FIXED everything
@@Zynirel so Superman being is weak self fought dr Manhattan ? Doctor Manhattan is afraid of Superman damn supes is strong.
I LOVE Adam
I prefer the idea of a set number of earth's out there, instead of infinite. Infinite is such a cop out
I love it! It was ambitious and refreshing…and flashpoint being the catalyst was perfect to me, even if it wasn’t intended to be. DC will always be my favorite and best of them all IMO ❤
*And DC animated Movies are 100x better then MCU films 🤷🏾♂️
I got sic of this at 40 seconds
What kind of Nerd would believe white men writers was a problem? Nerd for marvel writers department?
God forbid the writers are straight, white men 😂
Where is the rest of explaining Knightfall? Where is the rest of explaining Born again? I’ve been waiting so long I’m about to make the video myself. 🤷🏽♂️😂
Dude court of owls
I can already tell people are going to get extremely triggered by mentioning “diversity” and mentioning women characters were one-note.
It’s really working well for the comic industry right now😂 moron
The new 52 end so what did they revert to old universd or reboot aga8n or is it all still in the 52 rebooted timeline just not throwing the label on everything
Honestly started looking at different comic companies like Coffin that don’t care and let the writers write and keep the story going no reboots
Please do more videos like this
I'm a dc fan because of new 52
So tired of hearing the word “diverse” I stopped collecting comics because of it. Red lanterns was really good though
I love the new52
Best thing that came out of new 52 was dark nights: metal. That story was fantastic 👏 👌 🙌 😀
Dark Nights: Metal didn't come out from New 52. It happened during DC Rebirth
You terribly wrong@@lonely-soul-f2v
Diversity in writers doesn’t equate to diversity dine right in the comics
You're giving way too much power to the nine people on Twitter that had problem with the way women were portrayed those people don't count and don't matter they were so few in number. And those people are not people that buy the books we buy the books they just yell about it
But it's dead 👀
I thought it was really good
video was good up until about 5 minutes when they started talking about diversity.
I know pal. Anyone that doesn’t look like you is a personal attack on you. Forget about the fact that there’s been more diverse characters since the 70’s especially with the Justice League and X-Men. Now that you are seeing it, it hurts that people make characters that aren’t your ethnic group.
I guess just stop watching anything and make your own stories.
@@AmericaTheSimpleMindedif they made a dr. Martin Luther King movie and he was white you would like that
@@Kaitheone2 Sure thing kiddo. Because that’s the exact same context as some weakling constant victim crying about the fact that other people exist. Can’t have anything or anyone be different or you’ll cry. But keep thinking you’re better than woke people who do the same thing.
@@Kaitheone2How would that even work?
@@sharavy6851 🤷🏾♂️I forgot I wrote this
I liked the new 52 version of Superman he was not boyscout like,like his former self,and he was also helllllllllla stronger
A lot of times he acted like a complete jerk and bully, as well as the fact that he threatened people's lives if they didn't follow the law, especially in the beginning.
Confusing comics HISTORY
Aside from Forever Evil, I personally quite enjoyed the The New 52 Teen Titans comic as well as "The Ravagers".
While I wasn't too big on the fact that they made my girl Rose a straight-up villain (though it got better), I was quite bumped out when the latter ended on a cliffhanger with no resolution in sight.
I personally found the new 52 teen titans book to be a complete and utter trainwreck but I am glad you enjoyed that series more then I did.
Animal man and Swamp thing were so underrated
My best New 52 runs were Batman Animal man and Swamp Thing
❤️❤️❤️
D.C comics New 52 didn't work
Superman is so stupidly Op right now that it's not even funny. He has no weaknesses at all. 🐐
He's fiction. His power is relative.
So?
@@panthergod
A fictional alien refugee became Earth’s invincible crime fighting hero who is definitely inspired by Moses, John Carter and Samson thanks to both Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.
1 the writers. That's his only weakness 🤘
Thor is overpowered as well
wtf does being gay or straight have to do with good storytelling😂. an author doesnt have to be gay or a woman for the story to be good
dIvErSiTy. Or the plague of our modern days.
Gostei 😃👍🏻
Yeah, you lost me when you went off on the feminist nonsense.
You think having only two female writers on board is normal?
I'm here!
Wow
I’ve been watching a lot of Nigerian cinema, no diversity. Shame on them
Why woke destroyed everything