What To Watch During Trump’s Immunity Arguments at the Supreme Court
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- Sophie discusses what to watch during Thursday’s Supreme Court oral argument on Donald Trump’s absolute presidential immunity claims, as outlined by Democracy Docket senior staff writer Crystal Hill.
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If immunity were true, there would have been no reason to pardon Nixon.
And there would be no reason to jail Navalny.
Wrong
@@imperialmotoring3789 1) Navalny was never an American president, so non sequitur. 2) Navalny died 2 months ago.
Show me the man and I'll find the crime! A quote from Lavrentiy Beria, the most ruthless and longest-serving secret police chief in Joseph Stalin's reign of terror!
Nixon was not acting in the official capacity of the office while Trump clearly was!
The Supreme Court is sitting on this. We have hundreds good honest judges. Unfortunately not in the political Supreme Court.
What happened to the rules my opinion
I don't trust the Supreme Court at all
@@shelleyabbate9824 why have rules that on the book and court is trying change them ain't know nobody dumb people see what they are doing why be a judge if can't follow rules that all really on the book we can't even trust the high court in the land my these January 6 commit crimes against this country and if the judge changes they are commiting crimes against this country to because we have rules all ready on the book because they were not spose to take this case anyway because we all really have rules on the book for This and they change the rules of law they are just guilty as January 6 people and they opening Pan Dora box my opinion
No. Imagine a justice that doesn't know what a woman is!
Because most of judge didn't go to school for law and order they went there for the money because most of is brought and paid for by Rich people you can tell by there actions our justice system is in trouble because of these judges actions I saw hearing and the 3 judge straight up lies to the people of this country they said Rov v Wade was settled law and soon as they got to the court they changed their minds and father said ounce they lie to you they will away lie I'm 67 years old and I will n trust these judges because they committed perjury my opinion
Trump's not claiming he's innocent he's claiming what he did shouldn't be against the law.
@rookforce1
Wow... You *pinned it* ! 👀 🤞😳
Trump was not in the Legislative branch, nor the Judiciary, so Trump's opinions on the matter are totally irrelevant. he could have signed or vetoed a bill while in office, but that is it. His guilt or innocence is also irrelevant. Traditionally, guilt or innocence is determined by a court of law. So what he claims about innocence or guilt are also irrelevant. A claim is not a determination or a demonstration. So you are way off the mark on several counts. But I get the sentiment.
Every crook wants laws that allow him to go on doing crime with impunity.
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Or just that he should be able to do it-whatever it is.
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Donald Trump is not above the law.Donald trump is sure no victim
@@carolkatras8180 Vote America First!
MAGA 2024
Even with this court I can't see them saying any president has total immunity.
Don't hold your breath. I put nothing past them.
You can't have options for impeachment and call it immunity at the same time impeachment is the mechanism for removing a president for high crimes and misdemeanors. I don't see any way they're going to look at it differently.
They're waiting to see if trump wins
Put this sorry human being DJT in prison
If the SC rules former presidents are immune I want to see dark Brandon use it to teach (R) how to take the temperature of the floor.
Give him a break. Blacks ate his uncle!!!
@@imperialmotoring3789 I like presidents who don't invite and have dinner with Nick Fuentes, then claim to not be racist.
Civil immunity makes sense, as you can't have half the country suing because they don't like your ecology platform. But criminal liability? You can't give a president immunity from illegal acts like killings, unlawful imprisonment, or just ignoring they lost an election.
Don't forget when you're talking about civil immunity that Donald Trump was talking about injecting bleach and shining light into your body all while denying the virus was real and Catching it and spreading it around like wildfire. When a public official does something that is dangerous to the American people there should be no immunity from it. Trump has the blood of 1.1 million Americans on his hands. January 6th was just the icing on the cake of his traitorous administration
Obama ordered a drone strike that killed an American. Guess we have to charge him?
SC: Presidents MUST have ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY!!
MAGA: yeah, hip hip hooray!!
Biden: I'll be The President for LIFE!!
MAGA: Wait, not like that!
Yess 🎉 King Joe Biden 👑
Biden did start two wars. Maybe add that to his stolen documents trial?
I blame Nixon and Ford for all of the crap we've been going through for eight years now, if Nixon had not resigned, he _would_ have been indicted, precedent would have been set, trump would have been gone by the end of the Mueller investigation, (which that report is _still_ unredacted), a d we wouldn't be here now, and if Ford hadn't pardoned him, again, same thing, we wouldn't be here now....
Him resigning had absolutely NOTHING to do with Ford granting him the pardon, that's what should never have happened.
Nixon??? You have your new boogeyman, Trump!
But yes, Obama being brought up on charges would have helped the witch hunt against Trump.
@imperialmotoring3789
Bring Obama up on charges?
An Attorney who lectured on Constitutional Law BEFORE he was elected to the Senate?
Republicans:
The House of Representatives for his last 6 years in the White House and the Senate for the last 4.
You FOOLS just won't stop hallucinating,
@@imperialmotoring3789 Dude, seriously, what are you smoking? Turn off the Fox, and its related outlets, and join the rest of us here in the real world, really, it's nice here. Aren't you exhausted yet? Man, god bless ya, it's gotta suck living In fear of, literally _everything,_ you're gonna be amazed when you pull your head out of that fantasy world, I was. Been over twenty years since I stopped letting those clowns manipulate my mind, haven't missed it for a minute, it creates the same conditions as a drug, bout 60 million of you need an intervention.
@@richietattersall2122 I didn't say one had anything to do with the other, I said, one _could have_ set the precedent, and the other _did..._
Thank You for your good work
That was a beautiful, clear explanation of exactly what is going on. Thank you, Ms. Sofie. ❤
Excellent update Sophie!
Thank you very much
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Thanks Sophie
If they do grant him immunity then by all means Biden has the same rights so he’d better be careful what he asks for
Absolutely 🗽 💙 👑 ⭐ ✨
So far Biden has gotten way with his crimes so...
Thank you, Miss Sophie, everything becomes clearer following your explanations, I would like to know your opinion on the fact that this supreme court 🤣 has decided to look into this question. It is true that two truly inferior courts have rendered two judgments which come to the same conclusion, it remains to be seen whether these supreme beings will have a different opinion. ✌️
Thank you
I don't understand why the Supreme Court even took this up !
To permanently shut it down. If they didn't, nothing would stop a future President from pulling the exact same B$.
That there’s a case involving absolute presidential immunity is a joke.
No other president made such an asinine claim and no other president faced criminal charges.
Just trump.
Well, Obama, Bush, Clinton...
@@imperialmotoring3789
Remind me of any former president that sat in a court room because they were criminally charged.
Take your time.
@@suzannederusha1370 Remind me of any other presidential candidate that received this election interference treatment of false charges (other than Navalny).
@@imperialmotoring3789
There has been no other presidential candidate that was busted for interfering in an election.
We need a new SCOTUS.
We need a border wall!!!
🗽 No One is Above the Law ⚖️ 🇺🇲 🌠 💙 ⭐ ✨
We need supermajorities in both the senate and the house to reclaim our judiciary. The judiciary act of 2025.
Is that PROJECT 2025? I hope that passes!
The ONLY time the United States Constitution grants that Authority to the House and the Senate, is when they are the President.
IF the Senate finds them guilty, they are a Private Citizen again, the same as when a term in office expires. At that point, they back under the Judicial, not the Congressional, Jurisdiction of our Government
👍 SOPHIE ? 👍
Sounds like 3 should recuse themselves…
And the one that doesn't know what a woman is.
It's All Disgusting.
Full immunity is rediculous, the president could committ war crimes with complete impunity. It would eliminate the idea of war crimes completely.
For me, it will be the emotions of the liberal justices throughout as that will determine if even they aided Trump in delaying the trial.
The DOJ should call Nixon's Futurama head as a witness.
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The key is Presidently powers and acts. Summoning a resistance to overturn the results of an election isn't a Presidential act. At best it's the act of a candidate and at worse the act of insurrection As such there is not immunity attached.
I can't believe the idea if absolute immunity is even being discussed. I was born when Eisenhower was president. Absolute immunity is a foreign idea to me in the age of T-rump. Why aren't discussions immediately linking this concept to fascism? We live in a democracy. That doesn't allow for a fascist dictator. These are strange and dangerous times. Vote blue!!
#NoImmunitySCOTUS
#EyesOnSCOTUS
The President isn't above the law....
Like I said I don’t like the Fact that 9 people are making Decisions for the whole country because straight up nobody is above the Law because the Supreme Court don’t make decisions on other peoples cases
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Can the prosecution during the stormy Daniels trial add the Jan 6 insurrection as matter of NY state law
NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW!
But maybe POTUS shouldn't be in court then in office?
How can Trump think he has immunity from the law? No way. FFS...
Even a serving president should not be immune from criminal prosecution. Here is why. Suppose a POTUS ordered that all POWs, who are unarmed and not offering violence, shall be executed. This would be a clear case of the POTUS doing his official duties as commander in chief, but those orders would be contrary to both civil and military law. In other words, a war crime. So the POTUS would be issuing an illegal order, and his military is under no obligation to obey such illegal orders, and indeed, under the UCMJ, any personnel so ordered would be obliged to DISOBEY such an order.
Although the USA does not consider itself obliged to obey international law, the USA's reputation would suffer as a result.
There are literally hundreds, perhaps thousands, of scenarios where POTUS criminal immunity would be a bad and unworkable idea.
In any case, there is NO scenario where a POTUS, serving or former, would be criminally immune for actions taken outside of his her official duties. That would to be a re-definition of the POTUS to one of a dictator or king who was above the law, which is obvious nonsense.
Indeed, if the SCOTUS did rule in Trump's favour, then it is legally and morally exposed to a charge of high treason. Or I should say, another charge of high treason?
Rank actually means nothing under the rule of law. It is the appointment that matters.
An example. A solider is in a combat zone. He/she is on sentry duty. Someone approaches, and does not obey protocol. The sentry can shoot the person dead, even if he or she is a 5-star general. So the lowly private on duty outranks a 5-star general, until the person's credentials have been established. It was not the private's fault the general died.
An extreme example perhaps, but it has happened in real life. Several officers have been shot for not following protocol, and rightly so. In 1944, during the Battle of the Bulge, several US and allied generals were detained, sometimes for hours.
Again, it is not all about rank, but appointment. [There was an intelligence scare about a Nazi attempt to assassinate Eisenhower, head of SHEAF].
There is this funny thing called the "social contract". It is implicit and explicit in anything we do socially. It is about doing your job. Even if you flip burgers for a living, it is implied that you don't take a dump, not wash your hands, and then serve food. The law backs this up with health regulations. Like wearing sterile gloves while handling food.
And no one can just go on an airbus, and drive it thousands of miles with a few hundred passengers on board. You need a commercial license, be rated for that aircraft, and have the owner's authority to fly the aircraft.
So POTUS [or EX], billionaire or pauper, we all have to obey the law.
This is almost kindergarten level stuff, and should not have to be explained.
Just a wild guess, but I think that you have a fascist infestation on your hands, up to and including the present SCOTUS.
No immunity for
Is America Supreme Court going save democracy or corruption...???
U DONT NEED imm
The best I would offer to Trump is this: No current president will be allowed to start or involve himself in the procecution of a previous president, nor will any prolitcal idiology be involved. Other than that, a crime is a crime. If it can put one of us in jail, the president should not be excused.
I also think this should extend into a modification of the pardon power of a president that he should never be allowed to pardon himself from crimes, nor should any future presidents be allowed to pardon him. Let's face it, given how many presidents have come and gone without a single problem with this, I don't see a reason why it would be a problem going forward. Only one president has violated this so far and as long as he is treated the same as everyone else, it should keep others from wanting to follow his path.
They are voting for trump.so.
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Please Father God,help Mr Trump your great son. His not a bad man.
Judge,please help Mr.Trump.
Thank you in advance.
You are going to Win,God is watching.
Just wait and see.❤🎉❤🎉
@user yb ... *Who* is going to win?
Yes he IS a bad man! That's *why* he is in multiple Court Cases. He hurts people, and he has hurt our country! He needs to own up for what he did, and make amends. ⚖️
Prediction: "This is too complicated for us to decide and we have to leave it to the people! All cases in which Trump is being prosecuted by the US or any State are stayed until after the election."
Finally king Donny will be vindicated
Wouldn’t that be nice Hmmm … if SCOTUS said yes Biden should send Seal team 6 to peel a juicy 🍊in the beautiful state of Florida 🌴
Trump is going to prison 😂