What is more disgusting is her attitude towards the prosecutors, arrogant and incompetent, and so brazen in her handling of the case. She’s blatantly throwing her presence around as if she’s more qualified, than everyone . And like it or not she will not give up the case ,she stands to lose more now, she can be removed by Congress and then she won’t even get a pension.
@@georgesheffield1580that’s more than an assumption , all her filing of paperless notes are from someone who has given her the idea knowing she can be removed by the 11th circuit court.
And Judge Cannon is also a problem. She makes every concession to trump. I think she is hoping he will win in November and get rid of the case after he takes office so she is relieved of her duty. It's either that scenario or he is paying her off to slow walk the case. It's despicable.
I believe they are slow walking the immunity case u til after the election. In case tRump gets in again, and they'll render an opinion on immunity. If Biden is reelected then they'll just make like it's nothing and status quo on immunity
We End Citizens United. Amend the speech and debate clause. We need our public servants under oath while representing us. Period. No more bribe funded lies.
@@kaceykelly7222I could tolerate the ORIGINAL FILIBUSTER, in which the Senator HAS TO REMAIN STANDING AT HIS DESK OR YIELD THE FLOOR. It was hard to maintain. But why should a filibuster be painless?
But this also requires that voters allow to be selected by certain politicians. If you have forgotten how to use your common sense and fall for the simplest and most transparent lies, this is not surprising.
The judge was there fairly and guided the jury that were both under threats outside of the courtroom and in the Congressional house! All to protect the defendant of an overwhelming proof of guilt! Conviction is done! Jail time would be a good solution, we’ll see!
It’s personally appalling to me, that people who are in clear & dangerous opposition to your policies & efforts, take their limited days on earth, to troll either of you/colleagues. If they’ve more cogent citations, sans personal opinions; perhaps I’d be less critical… Unsure. Please, neither of you ever feel alone, or unique in the pushback/poorly constructed rhetoric! Unfortunately, I reside on the last few upper N streets, 12 miles from downtown Denver, yet IN CO D-4. Prior, I resided in CO D-3 (both for a decade+), & I find myself always & forever searching for ways to improve my District’s political positions/policies/voter turnout. History will mark the important work you both/colleagues: undertake. Steady onward-always. 🫶🏽💪🏽🗳️‼️‼️
Judge Merchan did an excellent job during the trial according to all the legal eagles that were there (Harry Litman, George Conway, Andrew Weissmann, Norman Eisen, etc.)
That's what my father used to say. He was from the Greatest Generation where people were very patriotic and loved the USA. Also, people were able to debate politics and still be able to be friends, family and acquaintances.
Yes, but there is no rule to remind adjudicators to leave politics behind just a few rules that are general enough to open abuse without accountability!
Thanks Mark for talking to Joyce. I have often seen her on MSNBC but your interview has done a deeper drive into a very wise and articulate woman. Thankyou Joyce for your openness, humility and wisdom. Seeing you in an indepth interview gives me hope for and in your insights, experience and candour about the upcoming electoral process evolving in the US. May justice prevail and bring peace, justice and equity the US. Thanks Joyce, glad your teaching and inspiring your students to think for themselves. From an Australian teacher with much respect for your work.
Slow enough to potentially unleash the Kracken-criminal so that he could potentially obtain the Oval Office and make all these cases--along with the ostensible proof of his crimes--magically disappear. This is such an inversion of justice as to make the Founders turn over in their graves.
Individuals need to be speaking up and sharing everything that is truthful about Biden. And condemning of Trump’s horrible behavior. Love Joyce’s advice of being proactive. If our Soldiers can lay their lives down for our freedom. Can’t we stand up and defend it, when we have the power to influence others?
When people ask what they can do to help save democracy in our country, the best answer is VOTE !!! Even a better answer, bring a few people with you. It's our only power. 💙🇺🇲💙🇺🇲💙🇺🇲💙🇺🇲
Wonderful discussion. I am such a fan of Joyce Vance from watching her on MSNBC and have even more respect for her after watching this episode. I'm retiring in a couple weeks and will take some of her suggestions to get involved advocating Social Security and Women's Rights with a family of all daughters and granddaughters. Thank you both! 🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸
I’ve always been a fan Ms. Vance. Watched you on MSNBC whenever possible. You can always tell an expert, comfortable in their knowledge base, when they can clearly explain the details in twenty minutes or sum it up in two, and the audience still walks away with more insight about the topic under discussion. Thank you both, and I will temper my disdain for what I see happening in our judiciary. (at least for now) Good call having her on, Marc. 💙😊💙😊
Mr.Marc Elias Ms.Joyce Vance thank you for knowing the law for people like me who don't know it as well you both are truth teller blessings to you both.......
Alabama resident for 30+ years. I love Joyce. I’m a Democrat so I am not represented. It blows my mind that my representatives openly say they will not make any decisions that “represent” my best interests.
I’m in N. Alabama and the day I heard the RNC was putting Donald Trump on the ticket I immediately cancelled my voters registration and registered later to vote Democratic. I don’t intend to ever vote republican again because it’s only gotten worse. I’m not thrilled with Biden but he’s been there fifty years and never tried to become a dictator. I’m not pleased that he’s a Zionist but so is the ‘other’ candidate. I don’t think the fact we’ve got two guys the age of these two candidates is an accident either when there are younger ppl who would be far more viable as the nations leader. Jill Stein is awesome and Gov. Andrew Cuomo would be much better leader than either Biden or Trump. If Trump had been arrested on Jan 6 for the traitor he is, like the others he incited were arrested. We likely wouldn’t have had to see or hear from him again. And certainly wouldn’t have to sweat over him being in office again as a traitor/felon/dictator who committed a COUP d’ Ata. Which Jan 6 was because weapons and death occurred it wasn’t just an insurrection. I’m not happy with the justice system right now dragging their feet and these corrupt judges both Aileen Canon and the SCOTUS. Something smells fishy and I know who it is. Y’all do know if he gets back in office, American Democracy is over for good! And that is very sad for the young ppl.
I too am a Democrat living in Alabama. I hate the politics, representatives, senators and governor. Only decent senator to ever serve Alabama was Doug Jones.
Same in Colorado’s D-4!! I reside 12 miles S of downtown Denver. I was literally asked to step out of our District’s DEM working group-merely b/c, after being asked to provide input, I pointed out that the official DEM platform read exactly as a 2015 GOP platform, plus refused to address Women & Families Reproductive Access to Healthcare (my educational & career focus). I noted the topic is “prickly,” yet when 1:3 women suffer miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies, not fully expelled miscarriages, + 1:4 college-aged students experience at least one “acquaintance SA” episode, etc etc… We ALL know family/friends/colleagues who hv suffered, myself included, & that ignoring the national issues felt unwise-I was TOLD that CO protects these rights, so WHY bother to bring up… 🙆🏼♂️🤦🏼♀️ Some days I just ‘can’t,’ but a day or two later; back in the fight! Steady on my friends! 🇺🇸❤️🗳️‼️‼️‼️
They needs to let outside attorney and judges with a clean background on their records and life interactions with positive people and loyal, trustworthy people who have a good attitudes about serving all the American people doesn't matter if they're white black brown, female or male, this is why we are not getting any better, stop judging others.
All the while I’ve been listening I’ve been writing postcards to voters. So naturally it delighted me when Joyce recommended doing this. (Almost to #200.)
Please ask your niece to pass on to Joyce that we here in Australia have great respect for her. Joyce should be on the Supreme Court or better still oversee it.
It is SO lovely and encouraging (thrilling, really) to hear from a calm, articulate Alabaman with basic sanity and a strong moral compass. And this ongoing drumbeat of voter suppression and deception is simply unbearable without some kind of help, including professional help! 🤦♂️🙏 (Btw, I'd take the gentle lady's recommendations on a good therapist any day!)
THESE TWO PEOPLE ARE OUR HEROS. They also fight vigorously for each and EVERYONE of us. Every Damn Day. Just a small prayer each day for them. The least I can do
@@christal2641 Von Shitzenpants has already been fined for the violations of the gag order.... Merchan could've jailed him for 30 days for each instance... $10,000 in fines instead... Merchan told him once more,it's jail!
In due respect to you, Donald Trump has been been treated with the utmost treatment than a common criminal is treated. And he rewards the justice system with lies and unhinged rhetoric. If the common criminal crossed that line with one toe they would be in jail forever.
Thank you Ms. Vance for sharing your knowledge, expertise, and wisdom!!! We need to continue be educated on these issues that are so valuable to preserve our Democracy. God Bless You!
I didn’t think I could like Joyce Vance more - but she is a knitter! Definitely part of my tribe. Thanks, Marc for a solid discussion of what needs to be done and how each of us plays a part in the construct we call democracy.💙💙💙
Joyce is the BEST. I listen to her everyday and appreciate her guiding us through this very stressful time for our Country. (You, also). Thank you both for going above and beyond for “We The People”. 🇺🇸
When Mark asked what the individual can do and he said we feel helpless, I started to cry. I’m still crying because that’s exactly how I feel. I’m involved in local groups but it seems so aggressive out there and you just can’t have a conversation without it turning ugly. 🥺
I know how you feel. Up in the mountains of North Carolina where IQ isn’t exactly high and Meth addiction is rampant as is domestic abuse, Trump is popular, Fauci’s name can be heard in connection with “the jab”, the border invaders with Mexicans getting free apartments, food etc. Having been living in Mexico as expats for five years we know better and also know it’s ridiculous to think any illegals are getting free anything except maybe water. What we do notice however is we’ve only seen one political sign and it was for Kennedy. Gone are the Trump flags and yard signs but the rhetoric remains. However fear is also pervasive on both sides which did surprise me. So not all Trumpers are out for blood thankfully and honestly what they fear I’m not exactly clear on and I don’t think they are either. Conversations are cautious and in low tones in public. People are hesitant to outright show their choice like before it was more in your face. Everyone seems afraid of violence on both sides which maybe the thing that saves us from all out bloodshed and violence. I’m hoping that healthy fear of death keeps everyone a little saner after the election.
yes, i empathize w/ u. We have no choice but to resist. It's a way of fighting which keeps you as calm as possible, bcuz u know that success relies on our calm ultrafirm resistance to their attempts to bully/pressure us.
Outstanding interview! Joyce Vance is a broadly well-experienced jurist and decent, open minded person. In my "opinion", her "opinions" matter! Thank you and Joyce for this Podcast... very, very informative!
yeah it's called normal thought. So many ppl have been 'affected' by the gaslighting and bullying/pressure the new-right has attempted to put on the nation. We MUST RESIST IT or we lose not just elections, but the entire social fabric and thus socioeconomic system that is our local communities, employment relationships, everything potentially. THIS is real anthropology sociology etc and we need to wake the fk up. These new paramilitaries that grew over the past decade are REAL. I"m a middle aged white guy who has been able to mingle a bit in every part of society. These fascists have had to be very very quiet of course forever so they could be free to operate until such a time as they deemed perfect to pounce. Document everything u see. If u see something this election season, try to document it, but at least report it and not just to local popo! Also to your attorney general's office, and your state rep's offices or even your governor. Many state rep's/congressional reps are super busy now and possibly won't even see your emails until after election! So we must be proactive now. These ppl are trying to literally steal our elections since 2016 or at least 2020.
Thank you Joyce, your comments were very impressive!
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This podcast is such a treat! Marc Elias, always thoughtful and intelligent. Than you for bringing us Joyce Vance's voice; I had never head of her. Now I know.
+Thank you. Most of these TH-cam broadcasts simply ask people to subscribe and like - Joyce Vance and Marc Elias took the time to remind people to actually register to vote, to help others get to the polls and to volunteer to be poll workers. Bravo!
I trust no one more than Joyce White Vance when it comes to the handling of the Judicial system. Once again Joyce has made me feel better about how slowly the justice system can handle Trump, and the biggest check is the vote for democracy.
Cannon is not qualified to try the Mar a Lago case. period.
She seems to be getting help and direction from some entity out side of the court system
Cannon needs to be charged with obstruction of justice.
What is more disgusting is her attitude towards the prosecutors, arrogant and incompetent, and so brazen in her handling of the case. She’s blatantly throwing her presence around as if she’s more qualified, than everyone . And like it or not she will not give up the case ,she stands to lose more now, she can be removed by Congress and then she won’t even get a pension.
@@georgesheffield1580that’s more than an assumption , all her filing of paperless notes are from someone who has given her the idea knowing she can be removed by the 11th circuit court.
Very interesting discussion with you Marc and Joyce , hope it will be regular discussion.
I could listen to Joyce Vance all day.
We should be more than a little troubled by the actions of SCOTUS! Their delay for Trump is outrageous !!
And Judge Cannon is also a problem. She makes every concession to trump. I think she is hoping he will win in November and get rid of the case after he takes office so she is relieved of her duty. It's either that scenario or he is paying her off to slow walk the case. It's despicable.
You DO realize that they DEMAND that Trump win. THIS IS THE AUTHORITARIAN MOMENT they have worked for since Reagan destroyed worker's rights.
It’s obvious he’s got friends in high places Supreme Court and judges
The finest Justice money (and threats) can buy!😂
I believe they are slow walking the immunity case u til after the election. In case tRump gets in again, and they'll render an opinion on immunity. If Biden is reelected then they'll just make like it's nothing and status quo on immunity
Ms. Vance is a superlative lawyer and explains in understandable terms for everyone. her newsletter is a must read.
We End Citizens United. Amend the speech and debate clause. We need our public servants under oath while representing us. Period. No more bribe funded lies.
You are right!
Citizens United MUST be the first thing we overturn, then Electoral College, Gerrymandering and Filabusters.
Money out of politics.
PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING!
@@kaceykelly7222I could tolerate the ORIGINAL FILIBUSTER, in which the Senator HAS TO REMAIN STANDING AT HIS DESK OR YIELD THE FLOOR.
It was hard to maintain. But why should a filibuster be painless?
absolutely. PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE...CORPORATIONS SHOULD NOT!
Thank you, Marc, for having Joyce Vance on. Jeez, she's gooood.
“Politicians shouldn’t be selecting their voters, the voters should be selecting their politicians “
Thank you Joyce Vance
Yes, that’s the insidious result of gerrymandering!
22 States routinely engage in Election fraud. What Tricks is Your State Using this Election?
But this also requires that voters allow to be selected by certain politicians. If you have forgotten how to use your common sense and fall for the simplest and most transparent lies, this is not surprising.
The answer of the question is NO.
@@SandraHale-ji7ig You are right, of course, but that was no question. It was a statement.
Love Joyce Vance. Nice to see her here. Thanks for inviting her, Marc.
She said it right: The JURY did it's job. NOT the judge.
Yes,this is not traffic court:)
The judge was there fairly and guided the jury that were both under threats outside of the courtroom and in the Congressional house!
All to protect the defendant of an overwhelming proof of guilt!
Conviction is done!
Jail time would be a good solution, we’ll see!
@@MrChannel19 💯💯💯
It’s personally appalling to me, that people who are in clear & dangerous opposition to your policies & efforts, take their limited days on earth, to troll either of you/colleagues. If they’ve more cogent citations, sans personal opinions; perhaps I’d be less critical… Unsure.
Please, neither of you ever feel alone, or unique in the pushback/poorly constructed rhetoric! Unfortunately, I reside on the last few upper N streets, 12 miles from downtown Denver, yet IN CO D-4. Prior, I resided in CO D-3 (both for a decade+), & I find myself always & forever searching for ways to improve my District’s political positions/policies/voter turnout.
History will mark the important work you both/colleagues: undertake.
Steady onward-always. 🫶🏽💪🏽🗳️‼️‼️
Judge Merchan did an excellent job during the trial according to all the legal eagles that were there (Harry Litman, George Conway, Andrew Weissmann, Norman Eisen, etc.)
Joyce Vance is a rock star. I’m in neighboring Georgia, and she is well-respected and a brilliant educator. Great conversation.
My grandmother, who was a poll worker, always told me, "If you dont vote, you don't get to complain."
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That's what my father used to say. He was from the Greatest Generation where people were very patriotic and loved the USA. Also, people were able to debate politics and still be able to be friends, family and acquaintances.
That's right. A lot of people complain about everything and then you explain to them how you make change and it goes in one ear and out the other.
FACTS!!
Voting is for the Electoral College. Get rid of the Electoral College, they can be bought. Let OUR vote count!
The students of Joyce Vance are very lucky. What a fine manner and attitude for a professor.
Wonderful!
One of the best.Great working insight.
The Justice System depends on people in the System being responsible and honest. That is where the problem lies.
Test
Yes, but there is no rule to remind adjudicators to leave politics behind just a few rules that are general enough to open abuse without accountability!
Society is crumbling.
You claim to be a democracy .You are not .No other true democracy has political apportionments to the judiciary .What could possibly go wrong .
BINGO !!! Some have forgotten the oath they took.
I proudly support Marc Elias and his Democracy Docket! He and his team have a fantastic track record in fighting for democracy!
Thank you for interviewing this amazing woman.
You are a treasure for those who want to believe in progress and the possibility of a real democracy.
Thanks Marc for having Joyce on!!! 💙💙💙
She is great!
Thanks Mark for talking to Joyce. I have often seen her on MSNBC but your interview has done a deeper drive into a very wise and articulate woman. Thankyou Joyce for your openness, humility and wisdom. Seeing you in an indepth interview gives me hope for and in your insights, experience and candour about the upcoming electoral process evolving in the US.
May justice prevail and bring peace, justice and equity the US. Thanks Joyce, glad your teaching and inspiring your students to think for themselves.
From an Australian teacher with much respect for your work.
If we had a decent judge the Fl case would be done and over and Trump would be in jail .
Too long a wait for justice as it is!
@@JeanGillespie-fp7rs I agree! The entire judicial system needs to be updated, this idea that justice moves slow is unexcusable.
Thank you from Canada 🇨🇦💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
The wheels of justice sure do grind slowly.
Slow enough to potentially unleash the Kracken-criminal so that he could potentially obtain the Oval Office and make all these cases--along with the ostensible proof of his crimes--magically disappear. This is such an inversion of justice as to make the Founders turn over in their graves.
PURPOSELY, !!!
You claim to be a democracy .You are not .No other true democracy has political apportionments to the judiciary .What could possibly go wrong .
@@michaelrowsell1160Noem should take MAGA to the gravel pit, so we could see swift justice in action 😊
@@michaelrowsell1160
*appointments
We are a republic, a democratic republic.
JOYCE VANCE TRULY ROCKS, A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT !!!
Mark Elias is a NATIONAL HERO!
100 💯 percent
"History that deserves to be remembered", "because justice matters".
@@ksailor71
He definitely is.
Yes glen kirshner to
Individuals need to be speaking up and sharing everything that is truthful about Biden. And condemning of Trump’s horrible behavior. Love Joyce’s advice of being proactive. If our Soldiers can lay their lives down for our freedom. Can’t we stand up and defend it, when we have the power to influence others?
Well said.
I’m fromAlabama and I love Joyce Vance. She is the one of only a few that make me not cringe.
I don't know how I missed this podcast with , Joyce Vance. I LOVE JOYCE VANCE!!! Thank you!!!
Let’s turn out in record numbers and vote for Democracy!
When people ask what they can do to help save democracy in our country, the best answer is VOTE !!! Even a better answer, bring a few people with you. It's our only power. 💙🇺🇲💙🇺🇲💙🇺🇲💙🇺🇲
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I AGREE! TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!
Absolutely 💯💯💯💯 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
@@pokey5736we must no racism
You are such a good man, Marc! ❤❤❤
Joyce is wonderful! She'll tell you how it is. She has the experience.
I love Joyce’s Substack publication. She’s so thorough and knowledgeable in each one of her articles.
"The judge may have slow-walked it a *little bit*"?! Understatement of the decade.
‘Mark my word’ Joyce is a breath of reason and fresh air. Thanks!!!
Impeach Judge Cannon!
💯 now!!!!!!
Exactly .. and not only impeach investigate her also😮
Cannon has one trike against her from the 11th circuit. She only needs two more, and she will be removed.
At the very least she should recused. We should be in the streets a March on Washington.
Twice the 11th reprimanded.
Why hasn’t Florida’s 11th Fed Circuit Court removed Judge Cannon? They have the authority to do so… Where are they?
Two brilliant lawyers.
Wonderful discussion. I am such a fan of Joyce Vance from watching her on MSNBC and have even more respect for her after watching this episode.
I'm retiring in a couple weeks and will take some of her suggestions to get involved advocating Social Security and Women's Rights with a family of all daughters and granddaughters.
Thank you both! 🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸
I’ve always been a fan Ms. Vance. Watched you on MSNBC whenever possible. You can always tell an expert, comfortable in their knowledge base, when they can clearly explain the details in twenty minutes or sum it up in two, and the audience still walks away with more insight about the topic under discussion. Thank you both, and I will temper my disdain for what I see happening in our judiciary. (at least for now) Good call having her on, Marc. 💙😊💙😊
Totally!!!!
This is one of my favorite Democracy Docket interviews. I listened to it twice & sent it to all my friends. Fantastic!
Mr.Marc Elias Ms.Joyce Vance thank you for knowing the law for people like me who don't know it as well you both are truth teller blessings to you both.......
GREAT Work to you too, Marc, for our Democracy!💙💙💙💙💙
Joyce Vance is a gift to all of us.
Amen!!
Thanks Joyce & Marc! Appreciate you both everyday!
Alabama resident for 30+ years. I love Joyce. I’m a Democrat so I am not represented. It blows my mind that my representatives openly say they will not make any decisions that “represent” my best interests.
Same in Tennessee.
I’m in N. Alabama and the day I heard the RNC was putting Donald Trump on the ticket I immediately cancelled my voters registration and registered later to vote Democratic. I don’t intend to ever vote republican again because it’s only gotten worse. I’m not thrilled with Biden but he’s been there fifty years and never tried to become a dictator. I’m not pleased that he’s a Zionist but so is the ‘other’ candidate. I don’t think the fact we’ve got two guys the age of these two candidates is an accident either when there are younger ppl who would be far more viable as the nations leader. Jill Stein is awesome and Gov. Andrew Cuomo would be much better leader than either Biden or Trump. If Trump had been arrested on Jan 6 for the traitor he is, like the others he incited were arrested. We likely wouldn’t have had to see or hear from him again. And certainly wouldn’t have to sweat over him being in office again as a traitor/felon/dictator who committed a COUP d’ Ata. Which Jan 6 was because weapons and death occurred it wasn’t just an insurrection. I’m not happy with the justice system right now dragging their feet and these corrupt judges both Aileen Canon and the SCOTUS. Something smells fishy and I know who it is. Y’all do know if he gets back in office, American Democracy is over for good! And that is very sad for the young ppl.
I too am a Democrat living in Alabama. I hate the politics, representatives, senators and governor. Only decent senator to ever serve Alabama was Doug Jones.
Same in Colorado’s D-4!! I reside 12 miles S of downtown Denver. I was literally asked to step out of our District’s DEM working group-merely
b/c, after being asked to provide input, I pointed out that the official DEM platform read exactly as a 2015 GOP platform, plus refused to address Women & Families Reproductive Access to Healthcare (my educational & career focus). I noted the topic is “prickly,” yet when 1:3 women suffer miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies, not fully expelled miscarriages, + 1:4 college-aged students experience at least one “acquaintance SA” episode, etc etc… We ALL know family/friends/colleagues who hv suffered, myself included, & that ignoring the national issues felt unwise-I was TOLD that CO protects these rights, so WHY bother to bring up… 🙆🏼♂️🤦🏼♀️ Some days I just ‘can’t,’ but a day or two later; back in the fight!
Steady on my friends!
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They have too much of that redneck power. It's that goat blood in em. We should be checking them for horns.
Love Joyce Vance and her explanations - all the way from Denmark. Thank you
❤love to watch and listen to Mrs Vance. She should be a Supreme Justice Judge.
Barbara as well!
Joyce Vance would make an excellent SCOTUS Wish I could have had her as my professor when I took my law classes. 🇺🇲 VOTE Blue on November 5 2024
Wonderful idea!!!❤❤❤
Ironic that she shares jd surname. Joyce Vance is the antithesis of that worm.
They needs to let outside attorney and judges with a clean background on their records and life interactions with positive people and loyal, trustworthy people who have a good attitudes about serving all the American people doesn't matter if they're white black brown, female or male, this is why we are not getting any better, stop judging others.
I could listen to you and Joyce Vance every day! Great video! 🌊🌊🌊💙💙💙🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great job Marc. Thank you for all your hard work. I just love J. Vance, i think she's awesome.
Thanks Mark,,you are Awesome…and thanks for all you do….BIG KUDOS….also Thankyou Joyce…BIG KUDOS!
Two American heroes, Marc and Joyce are amazing!
Love you both Mark and Joyce. I enjoyed this interchange between the two of you. Thank you! 🙏🏼♥️
Joyce Vance, thank you for your work and for your cogent assessment on the judicial system and voters.
Love Joyce Vance's succinct delivery. And YOU. Always so interesting
💖Joyce Vance!
All the while I’ve been listening I’ve been writing postcards to voters. So naturally it delighted me when Joyce recommended doing this. (Almost to #200.)
Joyce is THE BEST and I hope my niece who just transferred to Alabama gets her for her law courses.
When Joyce is teaching, the average IQ in AL rises by 1 standard deviation.
Please ask your niece to pass on to Joyce that we here in Australia have great respect for her.
Joyce should be on the Supreme Court or better still oversee it.
It is SO lovely and encouraging (thrilling, really) to hear from a calm, articulate Alabaman with basic sanity and a strong moral compass. And this ongoing drumbeat of voter suppression and deception is simply unbearable without some kind of help, including professional help! 🤦♂️🙏 (Btw, I'd take the gentle lady's recommendations on a good therapist any day!)
Bravo to Joyce Vance...she is one of the best!
I received a postcard in the last presidential election and was absolutely thrilled that someone took the time to personally write this to me 💙🇺🇸💙
THESE TWO PEOPLE ARE OUR HEROS.
They also fight vigorously for each and EVERYONE of us. Every Damn Day.
Just a small prayer each day for them. The least I can do
Thank you both !!
Joyce Vance for SCOTUS when an opening happens!
I am also a Joyce Vance fan, but I don’t think she will be selected for an SC position, as she has not been a sitting judge
Agree. She is concise, clear and fair.
Thank you Mark, you’re a hero!! 🙏🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️
I would love to have Joyce Vance join the team of MTN , love her assessment and expertise.
Excellent discussion.
Thank you both for all you do to protect
DEMOCRACY 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Sorry Joyce.
LOCK HIM UP.
The delay is disturbing. The allowances Trump has been given are disgusting.
Heck, lock him up for violating the gag orders!
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Von Shitzenpants has already been fined for the violations of the gag order....
Merchan could've jailed him for 30 days for each instance...
$10,000 in fines instead...
Merchan told him once more,it's jail!
We all know that that’s not going to happen
In due respect to you, Donald Trump has been been treated with the utmost treatment than a common criminal is treated. And he rewards the justice system with lies and unhinged rhetoric. If the common criminal crossed that line with one toe they would be in jail forever.
Dump Trump!!!!
Thank you Ms. Vance for sharing your knowledge, expertise, and wisdom!!! We need to continue be educated on these issues that are so valuable to preserve our Democracy. God Bless You!
Joyce is a national treasure! So straight forward and down to earth, plus a ton of legal knowledge and experience.
I didn’t think I could like Joyce Vance more - but she is a knitter! Definitely part of my tribe. Thanks, Marc for a solid discussion of what needs to be done and how each of us plays a part in the construct we call democracy.💙💙💙
Thank you 💙 both for protecting our American laws & Democracy 🇺🇸 ⚖️
Joyce thank you for all you. Keep up the good job
Joyce is great! We need more Americans like Joyce.
Professor Vance is so good at explaining the law! I really appreciate her commentary.
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She's so smart and thoughtful.
Thank you Joyce and Marc.
Joyce Vance is one of my very favorite speakers, she is so knowledgeable and thoughtful!!!
Love Joyce! Excellent source.
Love Joyce Vance’s wisdom! Thank you!
Excellent video Mark. I always enjoy listening to Joyce as she's spot on with her legal analysis
Thank you for answering the question of what we can be actively Doing to help. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Joyce is the BEST. I listen to her everyday and appreciate her guiding us through this very stressful time for our Country. (You, also). Thank you both for going above and beyond for “We The People”. 🇺🇸
Both of you are my heroes!🙏🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️
Thank you Joyce for all you do and your age looks beautiful on you. Thank you Marc for the interview.
Love and respect Joyce Vance 👏⚖👏
Thank you for this interview 🙏
THANK YOU MARK ALIAS. THANK YOU JOYCE VANCE for your reassurance about our court system bring able to handle Trump
Joyce Vance is a national treasure. I listen to #SistersInLaw every week and am always informed and inspired.
Thank you for an awesome video. "Politicians shouldn't be selecting voters, they should be electing us!" I am blown away by you both.
When Mark asked what the individual can do and he said we feel helpless, I started to cry. I’m still crying because that’s exactly how I feel. I’m involved in local groups but it seems so aggressive out there and you just can’t have a conversation without it turning ugly. 🥺
I know how you feel. Up in the mountains of North Carolina where IQ isn’t exactly high and Meth addiction is rampant as is domestic abuse, Trump is popular, Fauci’s name can be heard in connection with “the jab”, the border invaders with Mexicans getting free apartments, food etc. Having been living in Mexico as expats for five years we know better and also know it’s ridiculous to think any illegals are getting free anything except maybe water. What we do notice however is we’ve only seen one political sign and it was for Kennedy. Gone are the Trump flags and yard signs but the rhetoric remains. However fear is also pervasive on both sides which did surprise me. So not all Trumpers are out for blood thankfully and honestly what they fear I’m not exactly clear on and I don’t think they are either. Conversations are cautious and in low tones in public. People are hesitant to outright show their choice like before it was more in your face. Everyone seems afraid of violence on both sides which maybe the thing that saves us from all out bloodshed and violence. I’m hoping that healthy fear of death keeps everyone a little saner after the election.
yes, i empathize w/ u. We have no choice but to resist. It's a way of fighting which keeps you as calm as possible, bcuz u know that success relies on our calm ultrafirm resistance to their attempts to bully/pressure us.
Outstanding interview! Joyce Vance is a broadly well-experienced jurist and decent, open minded person. In my "opinion", her "opinions" matter! Thank you and Joyce for this Podcast... very, very informative!
Joyce Vance brings a comforting voice of logic to the madness that is Trump’s attack on democracy.
yeah it's called normal thought. So many ppl have been 'affected' by the gaslighting and bullying/pressure the new-right has attempted to put on the nation. We MUST RESIST IT or we lose not just elections, but the entire social fabric and thus socioeconomic system that is our local communities, employment relationships, everything potentially. THIS is real anthropology sociology etc and we need to wake the fk up. These new paramilitaries that grew over the past decade are REAL. I"m a middle aged white guy who has been able to mingle a bit in every part of society. These fascists have had to be very very quiet of course forever so they could be free to operate until such a time as they deemed perfect to pounce. Document everything u see. If u see something this election season, try to document it, but at least report it and not just to local popo! Also to your attorney general's office, and your state rep's offices or even your governor. Many state rep's/congressional reps are super busy now and possibly won't even see your emails until after election! So we must be proactive now. These ppl are trying to literally steal our elections since 2016 or at least 2020.
Super excited interview thank you both
Thank you Joyce, your comments were very impressive!
This podcast is such a treat! Marc Elias, always thoughtful and intelligent. Than you for bringing us Joyce Vance's voice; I had never head of her. Now I know.
Dr Vance. You look fabulous; AND you always speak with wisdom and clarity.
excellent conversation for the citizenry!
Joyce Vance and Marc Elias are needed as Supreme Court Justices.
Yes!!
YES INDEED!
A dream team, for sure!
Thank you, Marc. Love Joyce!
+Thank you. Most of these TH-cam broadcasts simply ask people to subscribe and like - Joyce Vance and Marc Elias took the time to remind people to actually register to vote, to help others get to the polls and to volunteer to be poll workers. Bravo!
Joyce is masterful.
I trust no one more than Joyce White Vance when it comes to the handling of the Judicial system.
Once again Joyce has made me feel better about how slowly the justice system can handle Trump, and the biggest check is the vote for democracy.
I wish the election would have gone the other way. I was so hopeful!
GOOD ONE GUYS KEEP THE GOOD WORK UP👍👍👍