The Hagia Sophia debate

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  • Turkey's decision to restore the former museum of #HagiaSophia as a #mosque has drawn mixed #reactions. While many Muslim countries have welcomed the move, some Western and Middle Eastern nations have been critical, saying it will harm interfaith relations.
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  • @mahasham4759
    @mahasham4759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When Hagia Sophia was converted into a museum 85 years ago after 500 years of serving as a Mosque, it drew no reaction from these people who are now very vocal about it reverting to its previous status.
    The irony is that Israel, which closes Al Aqsa Mosque for Muslims to worship there is shouting the loudest.

    • @ericagos1601
      @ericagos1601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will never hear a Muslim mention the one thousand and ninety three years that the Hagia Sophia served as a daily site of Christian worship. They don't acknowledge this at all. They pretend that its history began in 1453. You will also never hear them mention the thousands of Christian men, women and children who were brutally slain inside their own church, so that Muslims could use it as a mosque.
      Since that day of carnage, when the Christians of Constantinople had their city taken and their holy places desecrated, Christians have had no control over the Church of Holy Wisdom. They have never forgotten their church, and never will. They have never stopped loving it and doing whatever they could to save it.
      Although the Orthodox Christians never intended the HS to be used for anything other than the purpose they built it for, they saw its use as a museum as the lesser of two evils. When Ataturk made the HS a museum, it finally received the funds and care it needed for restoration. The HS has never been anything but a war trophy for Turkey, a symbol of the triumph of Turk over Greek, Islam over Christianity. There are over 3000 mosques in Istanbul, several Ottoman ones the same size as HS. These have always received priority when it came to restoration and funding.
      Apparently, committing genocide and cultural theft against the Christians of Anatolia isn't enough. Turkey and fundamentalist Muslims won't rest until they've either taken or destroyed the what little is left of Christian culture in Anatolia.
      In the century before the HS became a museum, it had become so dilapidated that very few Turks visited. Many areas were closed off due to falling debris. The majority of Turks worshipped in the more recent Ottoman mosques like the Sultan Ahmed next door.
      After it became a museum, non profit groups and funds from Christian nations came in. Previously, they were not allowed to. The Byzantine Institute of America is responsible for all the remaining mosaics you see today. They are the ones who spent months carefully removing plaster and restoring mosaics. They paid for all of this, and did not charge Turkey a cent.
      This is a move motivated purely by hate toward Christians. As long as this continues there will never be peace or justice in the world. This doesn't just affect Christians, fundamentalist Islam is a threat to everyone. We saw what happened in India with Ram temple. We see the conflict in Jerusalem over temple mount. We see the persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt. We see the destruction of many heritage sites by ISIL in recent years. There is only one common denominator in all of this. Whose revered religious shrine is the next target? Will Angkor Wat in Cambodia be next?

  • @awddfg
    @awddfg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    *_To non-muslims, keep crying._*

    • @Multi0703
      @Multi0703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Let's see how you will react when Israel reopens the Jewish Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem, let's see how happy you will remain about this rebuilding game, you hypocrite!

    • @hamzademir3093
      @hamzademir3093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Multi0703 they already destroyed many mosques and even converted a historical one into a nightclub or a bar , also hagia sofia is turkish proporty the ottomans bought it . you stole our stuff even in spain and greece many mosques are now churches . So whos the hypocrite now?!!

    • @awddfg
      @awddfg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Tan Meng *_You non Muslims are pathetic. The christians are dying off, atheists are committing suicide left and right._*

    • @Multi0703
      @Multi0703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Hamza Many Jews want to reopen their Temple of Solomon and you know that Israel is more powerful than Jordan itself. Tell me, Israel is gradually erasing the West Bank and annexing Judea and Samaria, what is Jordan doing to defend Palestinians? NOTHING, ZERO, NOTHING!!!! You give millions of dollars to the Jordanian rulers and end of story, problem will be solved and Israel will be fully "owner" of the Temple of Mount !

    • @Multi0703
      @Multi0703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Hamza Yes it can, it bribes Jordan all the time and Jordan never helps Palestinians. Soon, it will reopen the Temple of Solomon, will Erdogan's inspirational politics!

  • @alhidayahpathoftherighteou3698
    @alhidayahpathoftherighteou3698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I still dont know why people are even discussing this
    This is pathetic on western countries part

    • @alialijama9098
      @alialijama9098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are hurt that Islamic is rising

    • @alhidayahpathoftherighteou3698
      @alhidayahpathoftherighteou3698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alialijama9098 We are 1.8 billion they need to know we exist ; we have every right on our lands

    • @alialijama9098
      @alialijama9098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alhidayahpathoftherighteou3698 Amen. Muslim unity is a must.

    • @alialijama9098
      @alialijama9098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @AAA BBB actually only the last 100 years

    • @alialijama9098
      @alialijama9098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Yzeltawl viki read what ?

  • @nimerailyas1097
    @nimerailyas1097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As a Muslims, I'm soooo happy for this ❤️❤️❤️
    And for non Muslims, what should I say...... Why they don't do their own matters and leave Muslims on their own... Ahhhh, anyway, doesn't matter on their objection
    CONGRATULATIONS TURKISH PEOPLE...... ALLAH ALWAYS BLESS YOU AND ALL MUSLIMS TOO❤️.... AMEEN☺️☺️
    🇵🇰🇵🇰🇹🇷🇹🇷

    • @HambaAllah-fp1id
      @HambaAllah-fp1id 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes ❤️ Alhamdulillah

    • @alialijama9098
      @alialijama9098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Light York just like the U.K. France and U.S. are doing now. Bombing civilians and dividing nations. Evil man

    • @mdadil1456
      @mdadil1456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Light York muslims built the taj mahal. Ant the taj mahal says there is no god except allah and mohammmad is his messenger

    • @lifefreedomsecret9890
      @lifefreedomsecret9890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said
      They can never build a jewel like us.
      They have only black box lol.
      Let them enjoy for the moment

    • @hdjbdjdn410
      @hdjbdjdn410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's an Orthodox prophecy it will be ours again wait and watch

  • @m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366
    @m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why world is debating about this? When there muslims in Kashmir Palestine and other countries are being brutally murdered. Turkey is Islamic state it can allow prayers as Europe and Western World does not allow Islamic Call (Azan) and veil.

    • @m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366
      @m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Free Officers movement it's your right to speak, Allah gives freedom of speech.
      .
      .
      Now come to your responce, Music Festivals and concerts are too but they are allowed.

    • @alialijama9098
      @alialijama9098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366 Western world is corrupt. They watch Africans Palestinian Kashmir being killed by people but they all stay silent

    • @m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366
      @m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alialijama9098 we made western world "The Great Western World" otherwise for Allah who do not worship they will be punished.

    • @alialijama9098
      @alialijama9098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366 Allah gives everyone there time to rule and they'll be judge for what they do

    • @m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366
      @m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alialijama9098 indeed. May they find better way before final journey ameen.

  • @AbdulKhader-786
    @AbdulKhader-786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The christian mosaics should be put in a separate museum

    • @ericagos1601
      @ericagos1601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just as soon as we put the Kabaa in a museum.

    • @hAIR22943
      @hAIR22943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericagos1601 never close the Kaaba to a museum, and we will not turn the Vatican into a museum

  • @Ryanfury99
    @Ryanfury99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Congratulations turkey people!!
    Big support from indonesia! Muslim ummah in this entire world are with you..
    🇮🇩🇹🇷🇮🇩🇹🇷

    • @leventaknc9344
      @leventaknc9344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Terima kasih 😅 I only know this word.
      🇹🇷❤️🇮🇩

    • @Ryanfury99
      @Ryanfury99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leventaknc9344 Sama sama (you're welcome) :)

    • @kittycatwithinternetaccess2356
      @kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      constantinople is greek!

  • @rajankhan6839
    @rajankhan6839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice Rajab tayab ardogan muslim hiro 👍🇮🇳🇹🇷🇹🇷🇮🇳🇮🇳

    • @alienguy-kazmikompany1286
      @alienguy-kazmikompany1286 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol he is, but learn how to spell.

    • @rajankhan6839
      @rajankhan6839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Nice Turki nice Rajab tayab ardogan muslim hiro 👍🇮🇳🇹🇷🇹🇷🇮🇳🇮🇳👍

  • @mnmminix6765
    @mnmminix6765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In a sahih hadith, a city (Istanbul) shall be conquered (the second time) with tahlil and takbir (not through physical war) by Bani Ishaq (people of paternally European descent - through centuries of assimilation, based on DNA studies, significant of today's Turks are paternally Europeans, i.e. Greeks, Balkans, etc.).
    To conquer Istanbul is to conquer/enter its jewel/gate, Hagia Sophia.
    Wallahualam.

  • @GeekyGamer07
    @GeekyGamer07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Spain muslim made a mosque why they 5urned that into church it was the biggest mosque

  • @uvaiskomath
    @uvaiskomath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keeping drawings in a mosque is not permitted.
    There shouldn't be part by part action.
    Keeping the mosaics? Then leave it as a museum. Making it a mosque? Then no drawings.

  • @Ahmedqamislo
    @Ahmedqamislo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t see any sense of a debate

  • @m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366
    @m.hasan.mustafashoaib.burn6366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Allah is with Turkey, Crush those voices who even try to raise against Islam.

  • @sindabad7
    @sindabad7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alhamdulillah

  • @alialijama9098
    @alialijama9098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done Turkey.

  • @hanspeter7018
    @hanspeter7018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have Stolen 👆

  • @teomankaya769
    @teomankaya769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    LONG LIVE ERDOĞAN 🇹🇷❤️

  • @umarsohail6454
    @umarsohail6454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Erdogan is real leader . May muslim unite one day 🇵🇰🇮🇩🇲🇾🇮🇷🇹🇷🇦🇿🇦🇫🇧🇩 we are one

  • @turkishmike8486
    @turkishmike8486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    True inheritors of Devlet i Aliyye and Roman Empire is remaking history. Next is renaming İstanbul to Konstantiniyye / Constantinople. Then move the capital back to Konstantiniyye. Finally 2023 bring back halife title to Konstantiniyye. Golden city will again become the center of Muslim & Ortodox Christians.

  • @zeeshanbhai444
    @zeeshanbhai444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mashallah Mr.Erdogan is a real hero.

  • @hamidwahid1171
    @hamidwahid1171 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done yes u may no doubt best for all

  • @lifefreedomsecret9890
    @lifefreedomsecret9890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have waken the Greece and Russia
    Goodluck

    • @napoleonbonaparte8381
      @napoleonbonaparte8381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Half of Russia is drunk and other half is suicadal. As for Greece,they don't have population,military capacity,economy or anything to defeat Turkey.

    • @xm709
      @xm709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      20% of Russia is Muslim and this ratio is steadily growing every year.

    • @tazbeedsharafuddin1316
      @tazbeedsharafuddin1316 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greece😂😂😂😂

  • @HaliK7829
    @HaliK7829 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are regular Turks with none historical title to change or convert it to Mosque. I’m not sure if it’s ancient Title like muah.😂 at least it was preserve during the Knight of the shining armor. There is bloodshed event when this was built just like that a none historical title erase it and put writings of Muslim. 😜😂🕌

  • @abdihakimsaney2423
    @abdihakimsaney2423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alahu Akbar

  • @VaidyatheDr
    @VaidyatheDr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    unesco is doing right thing.

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      When a country is conquered, the monopoly of the victor is established, this is the historical truth throughout the ages around the world. It is all fair.
      The Muslims conquered Constantinople and turned the church into a mosque, without violating the general rules of world civilization. To add to that, the Sultan has shown generosity in buying the church.
      Recall, the Christians conquered Spain and occupied all the mosques and gave the Muslims options either to be baptized or to be expelled, that caused mass Muslims exodus from Spain, some remained as Christians.
      It may be recalled that the British closed down 1.25 million madrasas in India after they established their rule and only after many decades the Alia Madrasa was established at the request of the Muslims in Calcutta. They appointed continually 26 English Christian principals, where the interpretation of the Qur'an and Hadith were banned. Understand, what kind of Islamic education it was! It was pure joke.
      Some referring to Babri Masjid issue. If India was a Hindu state, there could be an argument to draw the example of Babri Masjid. India is a secular state, not a Hindu state. There is no evidence to support the claim of the Ram temple. How can that be, this is a myth! And Hagia Sophia was a mosque for more than 600 years, now back into the mosque. The two are not to be measured on the same scale.
      One, especially Christians, must know the brutal history of Spain and the jokes of English India before preaching Western narrative.

  • @skellingtonmeteoryballoon
    @skellingtonmeteoryballoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's cool to see Islam exposed, but if the only blaspheming religion becomes exposed... Wouldn't that prevent the end times revelation? God will announce the gospel to every nation. Our job is just to repent and believe. (John 6:29)

  • @jacksonmentu8047
    @jacksonmentu8047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Penindasan dan intimadasi bangsa: Ini adalah antara list gereja yang dirampas oleh kerajaan Turki.
    1. Cathedral of kars
    2. Narekavank-dimusnahkan laludidirikan mesjid di tapaknya
    3. St Andrew in Krisei
    4. Church of Christ Pantokrator (Constantinople)
    5. Church of Christ Pantepoptes (Constantinople)
    6. Monastery of Gastria
    7. Church of The Holy Apostles - dimusnahkan di ganti mesjid
    8. John The Baptist at lips (constantinople)
    9. Church of Saint John The Baptist en to trullo (Constantinople)
    10. Myrelaion
    11. Church of Saint Nicholas of Caffariotes (istanbul)
    12. Pamakaristos Church
    13. Church of Sergius and Bacchus
    14. Church of Hagia Thekla tu palatiu ton Blakhermon
    15. Church of Hagios Theodoros (Constantinople)
    16. Church of Hagias Theodosias tios Dexiokratus
    17. Church of Hagias Theotokos Kyriotissa (Constantinople)
    18. Church of San Domenico (Constantinople)
    19. Khakuli Monastery (Haho Babgasi)
    20. Doliskarna (Dolishane/Hamamlikoy)
    GEREJA GEREJA TERSEBUT SANGAT CANTIK DAN MEGAH. ISLAM MERAMPASNYA SEBAGAI SUNNAH DAN KERANA ISLAM GA BISA MEMBINA TEMPAT IBADAH SENDIRI. ISLAM INI GA TAU MALU!!

  • @Akar_97
    @Akar_97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Turkey don’t know what’s humanity Turkey change hagia sophia museum to mosque.

  • @gameexpert7983
    @gameexpert7983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ماشاءاللّٰه good decision 💜🇵🇰

  • @hanspeter7018
    @hanspeter7018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The dome is Christian with its mosaics, so your prayers will NEVER rise to the sky.👆You can stick a Mercedes star on your car, but it will NEVER become a MERCEDES 👆❤️
    The Bible says: Giving is happier than taking

    • @awddfg
      @awddfg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *_Ok pagan christian_*

    • @syedmuhammadmusab9573
      @syedmuhammadmusab9573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jealous orthodox christain

    • @syedmuhammadmusab9573
      @syedmuhammadmusab9573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If that is so then mosques converted by christain and jews into churches and synagogues respectively in Greece, Israel, Spain, Italy and many more are still mosques as well.

    • @hanspeter7018
      @hanspeter7018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@awddfg : you are miserable thieves .. Mercedes, Addidas is an invention of christians, christian ingenuity 👆That’s all haram for you 👆Hagia Sophia is also a christian invention 👆thiefs 👎

    • @ericagos1601
      @ericagos1601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what they do best. Destroy and take other people's creations. Because creating, especially something like the Hagia Sophia, is a lot harder than destroying or taking it. It's a combination of hatred and envy. They couldn't build it, so they had to take it. Now they try to pass it off as their own. Pathetic.

  • @nknabeelkhanvlogs705
    @nknabeelkhanvlogs705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you erdogan ❤️