Congratulations on crushing your enemies, driving them before you and hearing...well ok great job winning! The funny thing is just a week or so ago I saw a video headed "Slapchop is over!" Sigh, great technique, thanks for the video!
Contrast paint guide yes please! Thanks to you I actually started painting and it has been way less frustrating. Perhaps some pointers on layering or how to check out how the color will look on a model before applying would be helpful!
Congrats on the victory! I found while painting my knights the undercoat really affects Imperial Fist yellow, if you want a cartoony canary yellow instead of the grimdark greenish yellow here, using a cream colour like ushabti bone instead of grey for the undercoat will make it more yellow-y
I don't know, the guy seems a little too green for my tastes. But I know how that happened: yellow over black creates a sickly green-yellow, because most black paints are actually just really, REALLY dark blue. So when the yellow goes over the parts with some black on it (as opposed to the deepest recesses, where it's very black still), it filters a bit of that blue through. This is why Yellow is such a difficult color to work with. I've used the Slapchop method to paint yellow before, and I used a different variant of the technique I learned from someone on TH-cam: priming in an antique bone color, then giving it a brown wash, then dry-brushing up from there. It makes it so the recesses are a deep brown, rather than a black, which is far more friendly with the yellow that goes on top. It's also just generally a good way to make the whole piece warmer.
Yeah Imperial Fists over yellow is pretty nasty. Starting either bone or (believe it or not) pink will give a much better result. Slap chop up to white from your basecoat and then yellow contrast over top.
if people want a brighter pop to the armor you can also prime the model red and then drybrush up to white. this will turn teh dark reses into a more orange
Im loving the idea of slapchop using a complemtary colpur as the base coat, e.g., purple then highlight with white. That will nake the yellow pop even more so!
It works really really well, but magenta would be the correct undercoat. There's a few videos on YT about it. Also switching out the cold whites for ivories may help saturate the yellow.
Never let it be said that speed painting doesn’t look awesome! You’ve faced off against some incredibly skilled painters. Louise is super talented and Peachy was pretty much the king of getting things done quickly back when he was at GW. Congrats dude.
I use basilicanum grey for metalica effects on contrast minis. It works really well I think and would just take the edge off of the highest white I have going on there
I've always found the Gravelord Grey army painter speedpaint to look awesome when doing slapchop on metals to add a little bit more depth and help with the blending
Congratulations on the win Andy, will certainly be keeping my open for the contrast video. Although I liked the finished mini in the video for a darker feel, I wonder how much punchier it could have been ( if that’s what you wanted) if you had used pinks for the under shade? Do you think that would have worked and do you think it would have worked under the red or would you have had to dry brush that grey scale still so essentially dry brushing two different colours?
My current technique (which is working very well) to produce tabletop standard minis is to use a white basecoat followed by contrast/speed paint for the base layers follwed by oil based washes for all the shading. I think the end result smashes anyhting else out the park for the balance between speed and quality. I love oil washes.
I love the votan vid you did a while back for the yellow theme. It's so easy to follow and great results. I don't have the patience to sit there 5 hours for each model.
I super like how the models look right after the dry brushing stage, and I totally get why you left the blade and the metals bits on the plasma pistol without your contrasts. However.. the blade looks like it's made of stone. Perhaps you should have used the blue on the glyphs and the little power rod thingy on the blade, so it kind of glows a bit.. just like the plasma and the eyes. It probably would fit pretty nicely.
Well done! I think a *bit* more contrast on the non-metallics would be good. Wouldn’t add much time to add some extra shading / highlights to give that feel of shine.
Congratulations! I think you should consider trying a different prime color though. It makes for less dirty and more natural look. For instance, brown instead of black primer for the yellow marine. It's good for red too. Then try Navy for blues, etc.
Doing the slapchop and adding some weathering details might be a cool way to grimdark them up. Adding some oils/ streaking grime is something I will have to try out! Cool miniature!!
easily my go to guy for painting tutorials. my guard actually get painted because of your videos. id love one on how you prime your models normally and not just the slapchop
So good to hear that! I have a short on how I prime but let me know if I'm missing any tips you need and i can see about doing a video! th-cam.com/users/shorts51Hx1uTmtSw
Since I have watched your content, my control with Contrast paints has improved significantly. Not a huge Slapchop fan, but using your method of Chaos Black, then Grey Seer is great.
Looks decent. Maybe leviathan purple on the rope and frostheart on the sword. Gotta wonder if the yellow would've taken better if you used pinks instead of grey seer and corax white
For the sword i would suggest space wolves grey. It works for me really well as a base for nmm steel. Also: for warm colours like yellow I would suggest a dark brown or very very dark red or magenta basecoat before the drybrushing stage. Makes the yello look less greenish.
Contrast is a great tool to have in your painting kit. Like everything it just takes practice, I like to get a box of basic troops that have a bit of everything like teeth, leather, skin, armor or metal, and just practice
As you say, a job that would look good on the table top, especially with a bunch more. As Stalin said, "Quantity has its own quality". As for me, I would have used a silver over the sword and the gold parts and then put a contrast on top. If you are looking for that sort of finish on the sword maybe Apothecary White while on the armour pieces the yellow that you used. That silver will just make it pop a little more against the other yellow.
Contrats for the win! The IF looks great! I did some Kruleboyz from the Dominion Box like this as well. Just think that Nazdreg Yellow is a better stand in for the gold, cause it is a bit darker. But that is personal preference.
May I add my congratulations. Loved the technique video. Very clearly explaining orocess and limitations. Not sure the Yellow was bright enough for me and honestly I would have run a light blue over the sword blade (other power colors are available). Nevertheless as you say the result is a very passable tabletop force. Q. Do you have a process for "black" armour?
If you ever watched dumb and dumber, in moments like this, I would be the guy in the crowd yelling "Kick *their* a$$, Seabass!" Like I shared before I've been sharing your videos with my OW thread group because of how good your process is at being simple, effective, and good.
I also would love to have a painting guide that does something like the triad method for contrast basing. I find sometimes I'm like, okay, but what is the layer paint for snakebite leather???
I never thin them! Usually if you’re getting stains it’s because you have too little paint on your brush. You need to apply more than you think you need, apply it in sections and wipe away any excess after the surface has been covered. Stains are often from dragging too little paint across too much surface or it’s drying too fast because the layer is too thin.
In my experience at least, if you want a darker green, use this video's method but replace the yellow with Warp Lightning contrast paint; if you want a brighter green like GW painted 40k Salamanders, use Karandras Green. If you want really dark green Horus Heresy Salamanders, you can use Militarum Green, BUT this paint is REALLY transparent and weak so you'll need to be careful applying it, it pools and stains inconsistently easily.
I was super annoyed with all the slapchop nonsense that came out. It's just sketching with glazing. I saw Vince and a few others do tutorials on that a long time ago before this slapchop craze. I appreciate the discussion of the actual paint of the contrast paint I think that's really the only real difference is using a new paint medium rather than just a glaze.
Im glad this video exists to track the beginings of my villain arc 🤣
Arise Darth Sugs. The dark lord of Rascal Town
Congratulations on crushing your enemies, driving them before you and hearing...well ok great job winning! The funny thing is just a week or so ago I saw a video headed "Slapchop is over!" Sigh, great technique, thanks for the video!
Hearing the women laminating home brew data cards?
I love how Louise said "slapchop is too powerful!!" because she taught Rob (who made the slapchop video and gave it the funny name) how to do it.
I heard it was developed by Turkish monks myself…
@antonyyapp8597 Don't want to correct you, but slapchop, originally, was rediscovered in the dead sea scrolls.
Pahhh. Everyone knows the technique was engraved on a Martian meteorite found in the Antarctic ice.
Gotta love Peachy’s Juggz 😏
Congratulations! You are my fav YT painter by far besides Sonic Sledgehammer
It was an absolute pleasure to meet you there, it was big-brain thinking with the dry brushes!
Nice and quick. Best part of this is you can always go in and add extra detail.
Exactly! Get the models done to this standard at least, and go back if you have more time!
Contrast paint guide yes please!
Thanks to you I actually started painting and it has been way less frustrating.
Perhaps some pointers on layering or how to check out how the color will look on a model before applying would be helpful!
With a lighter less blueish primer&drybrush and it can really get perfect repeatable hue. All that in no time, nice!
Congrats on the victory! I found while painting my knights the undercoat really affects Imperial Fist yellow, if you want a cartoony canary yellow instead of the grimdark greenish yellow here, using a cream colour like ushabti bone instead of grey for the undercoat will make it more yellow-y
I am tempted to give this a go, perhaps with the additional step of doing the metallic areas as I normally do.
I don't know, the guy seems a little too green for my tastes.
But I know how that happened: yellow over black creates a sickly green-yellow, because most black paints are actually just really, REALLY dark blue. So when the yellow goes over the parts with some black on it (as opposed to the deepest recesses, where it's very black still), it filters a bit of that blue through. This is why Yellow is such a difficult color to work with.
I've used the Slapchop method to paint yellow before, and I used a different variant of the technique I learned from someone on TH-cam: priming in an antique bone color, then giving it a brown wash, then dry-brushing up from there. It makes it so the recesses are a deep brown, rather than a black, which is far more friendly with the yellow that goes on top. It's also just generally a good way to make the whole piece warmer.
Sounds like a good way of doing it!
Yeah Imperial Fists over yellow is pretty nasty.
Starting either bone or (believe it or not) pink will give a much better result. Slap chop up to white from your basecoat and then yellow contrast over top.
if people want a brighter pop to the armor you can also prime the model red and then drybrush up to white.
this will turn teh dark reses into a more orange
You could paint the little nodule on the power sword the same blue as on the pistol, to give it a bit of colour
Im loving the idea of slapchop using a complemtary colpur as the base coat, e.g., purple then highlight with white. That will nake the yellow pop even more so!
It works really really well, but magenta would be the correct undercoat. There's a few videos on YT about it. Also switching out the cold whites for ivories may help saturate the yellow.
@@corbingovers7559 great idea!
Never let it be said that speed painting doesn’t look awesome!
You’ve faced off against some incredibly skilled painters. Louise is super talented and Peachy was pretty much the king of getting things done quickly back when he was at GW. Congrats dude.
Congrats Andy, hope they invited you to come on their Juggz (podcast).
I use basilicanum grey for metalica effects on contrast minis. It works really well I think and would just take the edge off of the highest white I have going on there
I've always found the Gravelord Grey army painter speedpaint to look awesome when doing slapchop on metals to add a little bit more depth and help with the blending
100% agree. I try to use gravelord all the time now, prefer it over straight up metallics
Congratulations on the win Andy, will certainly be keeping my open for the contrast video.
Although I liked the finished mini in the video for a darker feel, I wonder how much punchier it could have been ( if that’s what you wanted) if you had used pinks for the under shade? Do you think that would have worked and do you think it would have worked under the red or would you have had to dry brush that grey scale still so essentially dry brushing two different colours?
My current technique (which is working very well) to produce tabletop standard minis is to use a white basecoat followed by contrast/speed paint for the base layers follwed by oil based washes for all the shading. I think the end result smashes anyhting else out the park for the balance between speed and quality. I love oil washes.
I love the votan vid you did a while back for the yellow theme. It's so easy to follow and great results. I don't have the patience to sit there 5 hours for each model.
Yeah some people do like that…but I just wanna get them done 😄
Congrats! Model looks great 👍
For the metallics, the AP speedpaint range actually have metallic paints that work quite well.
They do yes, I try to stick to one range though for tutorials!
Yesssss! Peachy's teacup is filled with tears! (J/K I love you Peachy)
Gratz with the prize! I like the way the sword turned out when the miniature was done!
It was so surprising how well the slapchop method worked in such a short amount of time.
Was lovely finally meeting you at Griffcon =-]
I super like how the models look right after the dry brushing stage, and I totally get why you left the blade and the metals bits on the plasma pistol without your contrasts. However.. the blade looks like it's made of stone. Perhaps you should have used the blue on the glyphs and the little power rod thingy on the blade, so it kind of glows a bit.. just like the plasma and the eyes. It probably would fit pretty nicely.
Well done! I think a *bit* more contrast on the non-metallics would be good. Wouldn’t add much time to add some extra shading / highlights to give that feel of shine.
Congratulations! I think you should consider trying a different prime color though. It makes for less dirty and more natural look. For instance, brown instead of black primer for the yellow marine. It's good for red too. Then try Navy for blues, etc.
Slapchop to get a bunch of troops on the table sounds like a life-saver for horde armies
One of your best videos and the one that made me think I should try slapchop technique. Kudos!!!
Doing the slapchop and adding some weathering details might be a cool way to grimdark them up. Adding some oils/ streaking grime is something I will have to try out! Cool miniature!!
Great results ^^ Congrats on the cheeky win ;)
It was great meeting you at Griffcon 💜
easily my go to guy for painting tutorials. my guard actually get painted because of your videos.
id love one on how you prime your models normally and not just the slapchop
So good to hear that!
I have a short on how I prime but let me know if I'm missing any tips you need and i can see about doing a video! th-cam.com/users/shorts51Hx1uTmtSw
Congrats on the win! That cloak looks like you spent ages on it too, good old slappy chops 👌
Treasuring my 3rd place! Super sweet to hang out, see you at some other event no doubt
-Annie
Congrats, Andy! 🎉🎉🎉
No way! I litterally pulled out that exact same model from the mystery models box! hahahaha
Hahaha cool
That looks great, so slap chop is the way to go! Can't wait to try it on my space marines!
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Congrats, Andy. Good win and nice video.
Since I have watched your content, my control with Contrast paints has improved significantly. Not a huge Slapchop fan, but using your method of Chaos Black, then Grey Seer is great.
Thanks man! Yeah I’ll be sticking to my method as well 😄
Looks decent. Maybe leviathan purple on the rope and frostheart on the sword.
Gotta wonder if the yellow would've taken better if you used pinks instead of grey seer and corax white
Speed Paint Metallics can give gold and silver a nice glint. Just a little over the Iyanden ornament Ratling Grime: boom!
Oo good idea!
Great Job! Congratz !
You made me to like painting 40 clanrats !
For the sword i would suggest space wolves grey. It works for me really well as a base for nmm steel.
Also: for warm colours like yellow I would suggest a dark brown or very very dark red or magenta basecoat before the drybrushing stage. Makes the yello look less greenish.
Contrast is a great tool to have in your painting kit. Like everything it just takes practice, I like to get a box of basic troops that have a bit of everything like teeth, leather, skin, armor or metal, and just practice
As you say, a job that would look good on the table top, especially with a bunch more. As Stalin said, "Quantity has its own quality". As for me, I would have used a silver over the sword and the gold parts and then put a contrast on top. If you are looking for that sort of finish on the sword maybe Apothecary White while on the armour pieces the yellow that you used. That silver will just make it pop a little more against the other yellow.
The power of yellow !
Side note the speed paint metal is love the slapchop
Is that a Retributor Armour gold medal?? Gratz!
That’s my painting GOAT 🐐
Contrats for the win!
The IF looks great! I did some Kruleboyz from the Dominion Box like this as well.
Just think that Nazdreg Yellow is a better stand in for the gold, cause it is a bit darker. But that is personal preference.
Great video, thank,you!
For your upcoming contrast video: water or lahmian or contrast medium? What are the differences?
Thank you!
A former GW staffer meet up. Well done. Great video
I believe a congregation of ex GW staffers is called a support group.
I would have used the speedpaint metallics for the metal parts, generally I tried using greys/yellows but didn't like it personally.
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Love your videos! Can you make a video about transfers for us that are below mediocre level?
there's one linked in description-super easy!
Congrats on the win!
interesting to leave the sword that way, but I like it. Maybe add some energy glow around the little power node?
I'd use a deep brown spray for slapchopping an Imperial Fist it makes the yellow more saturated, the rest of the process is perfect.
dark red or purple (not violet) even better
May I add my congratulations. Loved the technique video. Very clearly explaining orocess and limitations. Not sure the Yellow was bright enough for me and honestly I would have run a light blue over the sword blade (other power colors are available). Nevertheless as you say the result is a very passable tabletop force. Q. Do you have a process for "black" armour?
Not with slapchop but I have a ton of videos showing very easy black armour on my channel with contrast paint!
Here is a challenge Slapchop a SM in white
Congratulations man 😊
YES!!!
If you ever watched dumb and dumber, in moments like this, I would be the guy in the crowd yelling "Kick *their* a$$, Seabass!" Like I shared before I've been sharing your videos with my OW thread group because of how good your process is at being simple, effective, and good.
Crazy how that line is still so funny
Slapchop on large Vehicles like tanks and Dreadnaughts, video on that would be good.
Check my channel, plenty of super simple tutorials for vehicles!
Are you adding the Prince Ulther's Dragon Company,regiments of renowned to your army?
Legend !
I also would love to have a painting guide that does something like the triad method for contrast basing. I find sometimes I'm like, okay, but what is the layer paint for snakebite leather???
congrats!! 🎉🎉 wish u did the ymir conglomerate paint scheme on the dwarf as i love that scheme
I have a whole playlist for that scheme!
i know mate ive watched every video and copied it for my votann i love it @MediocreHobbies
Nice
Try the speedpaint metallics from The Army Painter on the sword?
I wonder how it would look with a dark brown or deep purple base undercoat instead of black.
Worth trying!
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Do you thin the contrast paint? With capes etc. I always struggle with coffee stains if the color is not thinned down.
I never thin them! Usually if you’re getting stains it’s because you have too little paint on your brush. You need to apply more than you think you need, apply it in sections and wipe away any excess after the surface has been covered. Stains are often from dragging too little paint across too much surface or it’s drying too fast because the layer is too thin.
Was the Guy from MWM with his back to camera?
Not sure you can scalp a bald man, but that's a big scalp you've taken from Peachy.
Could you do something similar for a salamander, Andy please? :D
Just on the blade, you didnt do anything on it right?
In my experience at least, if you want a darker green, use this video's method but replace the yellow with Warp Lightning contrast paint; if you want a brighter green like GW painted 40k Salamanders, use Karandras Green. If you want really dark green Horus Heresy Salamanders, you can use Militarum Green, BUT this paint is REALLY transparent and weak so you'll need to be careful applying it, it pools and stains inconsistently easily.
What did poor Peachy do to get the shade?
He knows what he did
I was super annoyed with all the slapchop nonsense that came out. It's just sketching with glazing. I saw Vince and a few others do tutorials on that a long time ago before this slapchop craze.
I appreciate the discussion of the actual paint of the contrast paint I think that's really the only real difference is using a new paint medium rather than just a glaze.
Ewww, nothing worst than a sore winner
God forbid I make a joke 😂