50's Wiring -A New Guitar for Free - doctor Guitar
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.พ. 2022
- In this episode I show you a super simple mod that will transform your Les Paul into a super different guitar in a much better way!!!!
It saved me a lot of money, because I was going to change the pickups on the guitar and this made it unnecessary!!!
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Dude, you're totally the ambassador for 50's wiring. Nice demonstration.☺☺☺
Thanks a lot
Tip to fix the volume pot taper is to add a 130k resistor between lugs 1 & 2 on the volume pots. Changes them from an audio taper to an almost reverse audio taper and gives you full range again from 0-10.
Thanks for the tip
I have a 2022 Les Paul Standard '50's Tabacco burst. I just opened the back and holy crap. How can you call it a '50 standard and not do '50 wiring?
Dang!
Guitar is in the bench now!!!!
Thanks friend!
Subscribed!!!
Great to know that it helped
@@BuddaGuedes I got it finished. Sounds much better.
Now I just have to play with your touch. Well done!
Ehh Eh!
Hi Budda! I hope you are doing well man. You are sounding great as always. I've been wanting to try the 50's wiring for a long time now but haven't done it yet. This is a good reminder to give it a go :-) Rock on!
It’s a must for me!!
Thanks
Always learning! I´ve a PRS SE245 and I´m thinking of doing the same. Thank u for the advise like I said before always learning!
Great it helps! Thanks a lot
Thanks man. Great idea, and an excellent demo of the results. I'm going to do this today. I've got an epiphone LP, and I have bought CTS log pots and the proper capacitors, and I am about to replace those, and rewire it in the 50s style. I can't wait to try it. Thanks again.
It made it a totally different guitar. I now love it a lot
How turned it out? Is a difference in the pots notable?
I'm so impressed by this! I'm gonna do my ESP viper and my Ibanez LP today! Thanks!
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Great video and very informative. 50s wiring doesn't always make it bright it enough. If the pups have the woolyness and lack the chimy highs, then the wiring doesn't take it away. It's worth trying if you like brighter tones but bear in mind that you might also need a set of brighter pickups or just a brighter neck pickup. Pickup height also has to do with brightness and string definition and clarity. Pups set to 2.5-4mm measured with the strings free usually should work for a PAF style pickup but always hear and adjust to your preference.
I totally agree
Beautiful playing, mate!
Thanks a lot
Awesome TONE! 🤘
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Love your Videos!!!!! The best on TH-cam!
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You have a new fan and subscriber my friend! I’m taking lessons now and learning to play the blues. What you were playing is Exactly what I’m looking for. See you in a Skype lesson real soon👍🏻👍🏻
You’ll be more than welcome.
Thanks for subscribing
Just finished this on my 56 Les Paul standard with P-90’s. I swapped tone caps to .015 uF on neck .022 uF bridge. Caps were oil filled Emerson’s. Used 550K on tone and 520-530k ohm pots on volume (Vi pots). So amazing - all that you say.
Great news!! It’s magical!!!
Just tried 50 wiring on my strat, saves me a lot $$$ , Thanks so much , subbed!! 😉
Great to kkow
Nice. First Les Paul that I could play.
It’s a new guitar
Just done this to my Les Paul Studio and it’s completely transformed the tone. Totally agree it’s like having a new guitar!
And wait until you get used to it
Me too, I actually did it on a 2013 studio deluxe ii with the coil tapping and 10 db boost circuit, it works on that setup as well FYI. Before I did this mod, I actually was experiencing buyers remorse after having the guitar for a few days in its stock wiring configuration.
Eh! Ehh I love the wiring schematic
Did?
Coi l Split! Coil Tap is altogether different!
Fantastic tone, good thing did'nt replace the pickups.
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Now my paul is an angry telecaster and a les paul on fire. Love the 50s wiring
That’s right! I love it
I just did this with LP#2 and yes it is very tele like. I still haven't decided if it's too bright though. The high's are piercing. The new pickups are 59' PAF replica, so that might factor into it as well. The guitar before was very wooly in a marshall but wonderful in an old Fender. The neck is so unlike what I'm accostomed to in a humbucker. Your jazz tone/touch is awesome BTW.
Thanks a lot. Also play with pickups height
@@BuddaGuedes That was my next step. Wondering if that effects the eq, I thought that was more about gain/output.
It also brightens up the tone
Awesome, Isn’t it? Did that to my SG a couple of years back and it was a game changer. Other thing that is amazing about 50s wiring is the interaction between the volume and tone pots. Did you watch Jeff McErlain’s video “Dialing in your Les Paul”? There’s a good explanation about that interaction. You should also consider replacing the pots with Vintage Inspired Pickups VIPots. They are replicas of the Centralab pots Gibson used back in the day. The taper is awesome and they feel really good. they will make your guitar sound and feel even better... trust me. I still have the stock 57 Classic Pickups in my SG because, after this mod, the guitar sounds spectacular, although I still have curiosity about how a good set of PAF replicas would sound in it. Cheers!I
Mine is perfect to my ears right now
@@BuddaGuedes sounds amazing! A cheap mod that makes all the difference!
That’s 100% right. I’m super happy
I think he did since here at 4:53 he uses the exact same wiring diagrams as did Jeff.
Yes I did ! But the diagram is available on google . Great video by the way
THIS IS THE SEQUENCE Regarding The Wiring;
The MODERN; the wire from the 3 way goes to and therefore Through The Tone Pot 1st. THEN to The Volume.
The 50's; 3 way Wiring goes to and then Through the Volume Pot 1st.
You can appreciate that In The Modern; the tone pot 1st alters the signal due to its inherent resistance Before it gets to the volume.
In a 50's; the volume pot dial Range is substantially shortened.
Example; dialing down from 10 (on the guitar vol knob) to 7 will take your volume from full to almost none.
A disadvantage most 50,s users get accustomed to.
I didn’t get that
@@BuddaGuedes ye "Probably" didnt finish grade school neither...
Not to mention, the magic how tone pot now interacts with volume pot. Try full volume with 1-2 tone pot lads. Y'all be surprised. Bite still there but distortion lessen (if you're using dirty channel).
That’s super great indeed
It's a good thing you didn't go with new pickups. In order to upgrade from Burstbuckers you would have had to really shell out and for nothing really because they are decent pickups that sound like they really work with the 50's wiring.
That’s right
Very helpful I was just looking into the same exact thing and wondering what I had to do to retain some high end when rolling down the volume a bit. I have several LP style guitars that need it and I figured I would have to just put trouble bleeds on all of them but maybe I can just do this? thanks for the heads up!
It works great
Thanks for the very clear demonstration. I can't help but wonder why Gibson changed to the "modern" wiring scheme? what are the supposed benefits of the modern approach?
I think the pots have a better behavior, but the tone us worst in my opinion
Maybe because from 60's to forward guitar sound goes more heavy and louder so that means brighter tone (i think). That is usually the answer from some people when asked why they change the wiring to modern. 50's wiring can sound too bright with heavier tones sometimes but peoples can always tweak tone from amps too so it's not problem these days. Modern wiring sounds little better with metal tones because it has more bass.
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Budda, depending on the Tele, year, model, etc the same wiring mod could be done. Same thing, swap the Cap wire on the pot, makes quite the change there too.
Every LP sytle guitar I've ever purchased the first two changes made if not there already is right to the 50's style wiring and in more recent years changing the Jack to a Puretone (cheap and great mod).
Question for ya, have you ever really played and checked out a Les Paul with P90's (with 50's wiring)? The stock Gibson P90's are so underrated. If you prefer the tones of single coil Strat/Tele genre, highly recommend the LP with P90's. Yes it's still a single coil, with a fatter more full sound. Similar to you, always preferred single coils and do appreciate and Love my LP with Humbuckers. First LP was a 74 purchased used in 76. Had acquired more over the years. Wasn't till many many years later seeing a P90 LP on sale in a store that caught my interest. Talking with the sales rep it came out the P90's didn't sell at that point at all hence the large discount. Curiosity got me, picked it up and was blown away how terrific the tone was. May be something you want to check out. Think you'll be very pleasantly surprised. Cheers
I actually own a Les Paul Special with P90 and I love it
They should make a switch if possible 50s/modern for when you want wool
Not an easy task but maybe doable
50's wiring is nice yeah. It also effects a little when guitar vol is at 10 but more of course when rolling vol back more. Heavy music modern sounds little better if player needs more balls to the sound.
It changed the guitar completely even with the volume at 10
@@BuddaGuedes It's funny that, Gibson doesn't put 50's wiring to their Les Paul Standard 50's even that it's so easy to do. Some really expensive models use 50's wiring i think.
They use it in the vintage editions
Bom vídeo. Dá pra fazer o mesmo com uma SG?
Claro.
This is the second time I have seen this recommendation - guess what I am going to do? Thanks
Ehh Eh! I loved it
50s wiring, PAFs and PIO all day long.
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Yes, the wiring of the 50s is cool! And if make a bridge pickup like 50s, and a neck pickup like modern wiring? We must try! Thanks!
That’s an option too
Forca🤘
Thanks
Thank you for posting. Love your playing. I wired my sg too in this style but noticed something weird.
When you set the tone to 0, would you still have volume? Mine goes silent
I have volume with tone on zero!!!
@@BuddaGuedes hmm. Something is wrong.. I will trace my wiring again
Instead of the grounding going from neck tone pot to neck volume pot , I have it going from bridge tone pot to neck tone pot. Does it matter?
@@BuddaGuedes so darn weird. I noticed that when i unground the middle lug of the tone pot, setting 0 on tone still has volume but no tone changes when i dial the tone knob up or down.... Will keep fixing but dude, thanks for posting this video. Love your playing!!!!
No it doesn’t. Grounding is common to all pots
Thanks a lot and good luck solving it
Great video... whtas the diference with treble bleed? what system is better?
In my Les Paul I preferred this system, not on a strat I use treble bleed
Hi Budda great video. I have a stock 1991 LP classic with the original hot ceramic 496R and 500T pickups. What pickups are in your guitar???
I have the burstbuckers
I’ replaced my 300k volume pots with mojo tone 500 k vintage taper CTS pots. I hope my stock pickups sound better with the 50’s mod. Thanks
Let me know if it worked
Have you done a black rose wiring?
I've seen diagrams, but, can't find any videos
I don’t even know what that is
@@BuddaGuedes the volume pot is connected from the input to tone ground.
Tone output is connected to volume ground.
I just reworked my kit guitar into that configuration. I think it's a little more clear than the way it eas previously wired. Definitely an interesting adjustment
Yo budda i just got new pots in my les paul and wired 50's style. Im wondering where do you set the tone knob to take out the bass ?
It’s not exactly taking out the bass. It’s the interaction between the volume and the tone when you power both. Usually it’s around 5 on the tone and 8 or less on the volume. But it will depend on the knobs tolerance
@Budda Guedes 550k pots. Would 550k pots be higher like 6 or 7 if the value of the pots is higher?
The new pots made my R9 like a new les paul. Gibsons 500k pots must have been lower, like 450k or so. My guitar was so dark until i changed them
I think te value of the pot only changed the treble it allows to pass, not the overall volume
Would this work well on a firebird? In theory it should, right?
Of course
Theres something magical in the newest 2019-2022 sound of the new epiphone standards 50’s.
I play rhythm metal and punk and the sound of the powerchords sound so rich, so electrifying.
I tried the newest Epi Les paul standard 60’s and the newest epi LP custom, and the standard 50’s has this thick rich sound it blows the other 2 out of the water.
Is it the 50s style wiring causing this rich sound or is it the probucker ?
The 50’s wiring only makes the volume work different. But when it’s on 10 is almost the same
Before and after comparison would have been better.
It’s really hard to hear the difference in a video
What pickups do you have in that guitar Brother? ❤
It sounds great. That’s why I asked.
The only really authentic P.A.F.’s are coming from Monty’s or Wizz pickups. Some like ThroBack pickups.
Check out the capacitors, try a .015 on the neck and a .022 on the bridge. the wiring and the quality of the pots, are pivotal. The old Centalab pots had a rating of around 440K! This is why it may be that the old guitars just sound better. Every single part makes a massive difference. I use Jensen Capacitors. Foil in oil and it’s awesome! 🎉❤
In 1990 or so, I was in Gibson Custom Shop W. They gave me a guitar. Rare as hell, Gibson W.R.C. SR-71 Showcase model in white!! Last guitar they had in the shop man! I was looking at black beauties, Les Paul customs Firebirds every model I want now but didn’t choose. So I go to meet Rodger Giffen who was the luthier, and I saw my guitar on the bench next to an Old Les Paul Std. From 30’ away, I felt it!!! I said Rodger? This is a freaky instrument! I said is the neck thinner than a 1957-1960 Les Paul Std is supposed to be? He said “Good Eye”, I said “It ain’t my eye. I know the owner already. It has no SN#?” And it used to belong to Joe Walsh??”he said Right On Tom! I go “That IS #1!!! Jimmy Page’s #1! It’s NOT a copy!” And I ran over to see my guitar next to the guy’s Guitar who I studied to learn from!! I played it. It only had one push pull and that’s on the bottom tone control that had been a push pull for phase. The rest were not there. I love that guitar!
Hi what k are your pots?300k or500k ? Makes a lot of difference if you changed to vintage wiring living the pots 300k and still hearing the difference ☺️.
My pots are 500k. That’s the standard for humbucker guitars
All of you momo’s talking about 50’s wiring making your tone too bright… it’s called USE THE TONE POT!! YOU MOMO’S !!!
thanks MOMO!
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