Compromise versus sacrifice: how to be constructively selfish in relationships

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    People often say that relationships require compromise. However, in practice, this often amounts to the negotiated unhappiness of both parties. This is because the heart of compromise is always quid pro quo: I'll give up what I want now, and you'll give up your right to what you want later. An alternative to compromise is sacrifice, in which individuals choose to change in order to secure future benefit to themselves. Unlike compromise, there is no expectation that you will receive future consideration from your partner. It is inherently selfish -- but it preserves the freedom and dignity of the relationship.
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ความคิดเห็น • 31

  • @solidwegy61
    @solidwegy61 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The way I view compromise is a balance "no one gets more than the other" it should be use for big things like building boundaries that keeps both spouses in check. We agree to do the best to keep each other happy just like we promised when we got married.

  • @jencrews
    @jencrews หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, this is a really helpful distinction. You helped me see that compromise is very transactional whereas sacrifice is loving.

  • @nobodyspecial-zt7ke
    @nobodyspecial-zt7ke ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The point is that it has to be a two way street. "My way or the high way" is a guaranteed recipe for failure in any relationship - personal or professional but most importantly in actual marriages. Double standards are beyond toxic and a serious red flag of what the future holds if noticed early on. You cannot seriously expect a person to "see it your way" when you have categorically refused to do the same in previous instances. If what you want is for something to be seen your way then you better be prepared to reciprocate that. Sacrifice from time to time is necessary but what some people seem to expect is complete denial of self and abdication of any sense of personal boundaries under the guise of "making things work" but being completely unwilling to do the same. Respect is earned not given for nothing. You want someone to see things your way then be willing to and actually attempt to see things their way. You want to be treated in a respectful manner and your boundaries respected? Be prepared to do the same. THAT is how bridges are built. THAT is how relationships work. THAT is how marriages work. Otherwise what happens is a total imbalance of power and the result is one partner continuously sacrificing and acquiescing to the demands of the other. Period.
    If a person isn't willing to state their boundaries and actually enforce them by adopting and then applying consequences for conscious violation of those boundaries then whatever the result of that is on them. Expectation of respect for mutual observance of boundaries and participation in compromise if not collaboration is not a matter of pride. It's basic self respect and for anyone who's ever had to climb the mountain to regain their own self respect it's simply not something that person will ever willingly sacrifice for anyone for any reason.

    • @FloraSora
      @FloraSora หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will say that setting boundaries in a relationship is hard for me, but with the right people, it feels so satisfying. Whereas with an old toxic friendgroup, I've felt like if I try to set a boundary, some of those friendships, or at least one of them, would dissolve. I'll definitely say that the ability to build out rooms, compartments, doors, and open gates in a relationship, closing off some small areas, either to end that part of your life or to simply seal it away only to be used in certain drastic circumstances, while simultaneously opening up doors and avenues to your friend/partner, is amazing. The ability to see the truth in your relationships, while appreciating them at the same time, is beautiful and wonderful. Contrast this to painfully staying rigid, refusing to build out any structures in an open space, and just head-butting your partner without consideration for how they feel, and vice versa, OR with only one partner building out these rooms and doors for the other. In this contrasting case, it's a miserable experience for at least one person.

  • @YouilAushana
    @YouilAushana 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Comprises are only painful for selfish losers. Sacrifice is truly painful.

  • @Artof_vrose
    @Artof_vrose หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried to tell my gf that I make sacrifices. “Giving up something I love for a greater good.” Like I gave up the comfort of staying in the house for a trip to Disneyland because it would do me good to try to learn to appreciate outdoor activities whilst at the same time building shared experiences with my gf that we could look fondly to someday in the future. But when I said the word “sacrifice” she took it to mean that I did something that was a hassle to me.
    I’m glad to see someone posted a video that aligns their message to my train of thought. Unfortunately now I have to work to appease my partner for using a word she didn’t like. Womp womp.

  • @SheriK926
    @SheriK926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My! I'm relating after listening twice..Sharing asap..such a paradigm shift for me.

    • @psychacks
      @psychacks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think this is an important concept, because it's _not possible_ to compromise on certain things. For instance, you can't have half a kid. If people enter into such decisions without an attitude of sacrifice, they're subject to becoming bitter and resentful in the long term. Thanks for listening.

  • @maria.1313
    @maria.1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved this one, very illuminating 🙏🤍

  • @jamlaw
    @jamlaw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    But isn't compromise also potentially "i agree to give something up for the betterment/harmony of my relationship"? I like this idea but I'm not sure you can always convince yourself a sacrifice is just for you. That seems more like rationalizing in order to not feel like someone is pushing you around. What about in the cases when the sacrifice would be, for example, not to stop playing video games for yourself. But to stop because the person you love wants to spend time with you and you can see how spending time with them is more fulfilling than playing a video game for 40 hours a week, in the long run. Because it seems to me that not every will always have an apparent benefit just to onself. Or does this just mean the only way not to have resentment is to co Vince yourself that you're doing something for yourself? I feel good when i do things for someone i love.. i think that's important and maybe a balance between the two is a good idea. Just some thoughts 😊

    • @nyphe5420
      @nyphe5420 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What if instead of playing 40 hours a week isn’t what he does, what if it’s just playing from 9:30-2am, so he is never or very rarely going to sleep with you. What is the compromise?
      Playing sooner so i dont feel the need to play later? Now that makes it so I’m spending maybe less time with you throughout the day to give you what you want (but what if because I do that now when I’m playing during the day, I am playing by myself cause my friends don’t get on. And now I’m now enjoying video games less)
      What if we make the cut of 1030, and maybe start at 8. Okay now he’s just wide awake while you’re asleep, he got less time doing what he wanted, sacrificing it in order for you to sleep better at night.
      What if we keep it to just the weekends, are you gonna sacrifice the weekends with him? Or is he now gonna have to sacrifice some of the weekend gaming to satisfy you. A compromise on top of one.
      You can frame it as “but it’s just really special for me to sleep together” “don’t you wanna sleep with me, do you not care” “its really emotionally comforting to have you there” it’s a compromise, but he’s not really satisfied at all.

  • @stevehancock7925
    @stevehancock7925 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This idea seems to be possible only if both partners see sacrifice the same way and there's some sort of equity involved. Otherwise, there's only one person sacrificing and the other is only benefitting. Eventually, the one making all the sacrifices realizes they are only one doing all the giving and the one who has been benefitting as entitled to everything they want from the other.

    • @agape843
      @agape843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If one sacrifices things because THEY see it as an issue in their own life,then there’s nothing lost/ they are growing REGARDLESS of whether the other person is or isn’t.
      I guess then that growing individual must decide if they want to continue in that relationship,or not.

  • @avagoudarznia8744
    @avagoudarznia8744 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this was so helpful thanks🎉

  • @ReigningFlame
    @ReigningFlame ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You, sir, need more subscribers! This content is amazing.

  • @strangerrose538
    @strangerrose538 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    v useful-never thought of things that way before. x

  • @francodangelo2874
    @francodangelo2874 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have heard a similar idea articulated I'm another manner, from Peterson, he said something along the lines of "don't agree to do something with your partner, just to get along with him/her state what you want" and later on a follow up someone whose identity I ignore, clarify that "yeah state what you want but also sometimes do what you don't like because you love your partner"
    I'm kind of reticent to use selfish as an adjective to describe the rationalization behind this behaviour, and have been using compromise associated to relationships cause doesn't matter from what perspective you analize the relationship neither partner is gonna get exactly what he wants from from his/her significant other, so both end up compromising some characteristic they would like in his/her partner for another that they seem to prioratize regardless of this situations arising or not
    but, all in all, forgoing the semantics, and my almost pedantic argument, I think is a good point to make, and to be aware of, every time this kind o situations arise in a relationship
    So thanks for sharing

  • @Superstarsteveg
    @Superstarsteveg ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you that helped a lot

  • @habi00
    @habi00 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the good video! Basically this is the same as alignment Of energy (directions) between several things effecting the outcome. In decisionmaking it’s the most important aspect that you have to answer to yourself. Does this help me in some way on not. Is there a costs on the alternatives that your not willing to make (sacrifice or need of compromise)

  • @XxXxXOzoneXxXxX
    @XxXxXOzoneXxXxX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here my views in this compromise vs sacrifice
    Compromise: meaning both parties has different goals in life but meets in the happy middle and both parties can be happy.
    Sacrifice: meaning both parties have different goals in life, BUT one both parties are in a stale mate until someone full sacrifice/surrender their own desires in order to make the other party happy, and its worse when the other party refuses to sacrifice anything at all in there life.
    So to me i believe compromising means both parties love eachother to find a middle ground, while sacrificing meaning one party has to suffer while the other party becomes selfish

  • @marcelamunoz2668
    @marcelamunoz2668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is funny, I understand this exactly in the invierted way. When you make a sacrifice it's an offering to a higher being (the lover maybe?) But when I compromise it's for me, and no one else

    • @marcelamunoz2668
      @marcelamunoz2668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Btw I am a fan of your content ❤

    • @psychacks
      @psychacks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would agree that a sacrifice is an offering to a higher being, but I would be careful about turning the lover into that being 😅 In any case, it sounds like we have similar ideas. Thanks for watching!

  • @RobertRod818
    @RobertRod818 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes sense

  • @anthonyperrault4969
    @anthonyperrault4969 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is asking my partner to do something she doesn’t want to do (e.g., go on a 5-day hike with me) because it will increase my happiness if she were present for the experience a compromise or sacrifice? Later, when she asks me to do something that I don’t want to do (e.g., attend a wedding) for the same reason, I am more likely to do it because I remember that she did something for me that she didn’t want to do. Should neither of us agree to do what the other wants if we don’t actually want to do it, or should we accommodate the other? How should we make those decisions, and what do we call the process - compromising or sacrificing?

  • @brandonvenezia404
    @brandonvenezia404 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if you don’t see the benefit to that sacrifice?

  • @Repienk
    @Repienk ปีที่แล้ว

    So what if my gf asks me to text her more but I don’t want to because I want to text her when I want to and not when she wants me too? (We are long distance btw)

    • @genericname7020
      @genericname7020 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you communicate that to her? Maybe you should set rules. "I'm not going to text you at all, but once a week we will spend the entire day together." This would give both of you a peace of mind as expectations are set in stone.

    • @Repienk
      @Repienk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericname7020 we came to an agreement

  • @Serena_Clara_Luna
    @Serena_Clara_Luna 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So how does that work for compromise when one person refuses to see any shows that are not to their idea of a good movie but expects the other to go to one that they like even though they are sick of the same type of movies being the one chosen or there is no date. The night out is over 🤔🫣 I think both compromise and sacrifice need to be considered in relation to context.