As a KTM owner, I don't doubt them that this is the best KTM 450 yet with all the adjustments they made to improving comfort and compliance. With that said, we all feel like hero's on a perfectly prepped track and every bike feels amazing. I think the reviewers opinions were affected by "perfect riding day" syndrome.
So then every single bike would be perfect? They test all kinds of bikes on a perfect track to see how each bike preforms. If conditions are unchanging, then bike reviews will be more accurate. This is where i think the mxa guys do really good by actually racing the bikes and thereby testing them for actual race scenarios - where these bikes are made to preform. I get your sentiment, but it would only work if they only tested one bike.
KTM has consistently been at the forefront of innovation in the industry, setting trends that other manufacturers often follow. From their minimalist plastics and sleek designs to their impressive horsepower and superior handling, KTM has always led the way.
@@peterboudoures8998 the older yamis were quite a bit heavier but the new ones are near the same. 2023 ktm 450 is 239lbs and 2023 yz450f is 240 pounds so 1 pound more
It’s one of those things everyone should do at least once if you can. When I bought my first one, I mistakenly said I would “never” buy a Japanese bike again…fast forward 3 years and there’s a Yamaha in the garage again.
@@OtisFlint They do make a quality product. It's undeniable how good the brakes are in comparison to their Japanese counterparts and the clutch is super durable. Aside from those two standout attributes, I don't think it justifies the $1,000 to $1,500 (and more when you’re looking at the XC models) difference in price in my view. Especially when you take into account the suspension performance of their competitors. One would think that they are saving some money in production cost as well when it comes to the WP air fork as the air-side leg is identical in all of the full-sized bikes and they really just change the suggested air pressure (Spring rate). That leaves just one leg to valve per model, for example, in the MX models during manufacturing process. Essentially, for every 2 forks someone sits and valves for an AER KTM, 2 bikes get done while everyone else just has 1 bike done for the same amount of work. That over thousands of units I imagine equates to a lot more bikes finished up than the others, right? Not asking rhetorically, just an observation and wondering if anyone else has the same stance.
I used to talk so much shit with a fleet of Hondas in my basement, one day had the opportunity to buy a ktm250sx belonging to Travis Pastrana and I couldn’t turn it up with him being my childhood hero and a legend in the sport and after I rode it I was finally broken with the reality of how good they are even with the air forks. Now my basement is a fleet of KTMs 125sx 250sx 250sxf 450sxf Each one is stupid good especially that 125 it’s insane how good these bikes are. You will not be disappointed ever going with one. Don’t buy all the bullshit either about bolts coming loose to spokes I’ve never had a bolt come loose or spokes constantly needing to be tightened just torque the bike and check the way you would normally do every service and you’ll be problem free always. There was a torture test 100 hours no maintenance and the bike never failed once and when they took it apart still looked great with more hours to go before needing the service done to it. They’re unbeatable for reliability and style and performance.
I added the connectivity unit to my 24 350 and I love it !! I can take the engine break to nothing .. it was 250.00 bucks but for me it was worth it. I'm sure it would also be great on the 450.
Quite a few of us riding the 23/24 SX bikes mostly in the dunes… stiffness probably helps with all the high speed hits and G-Outs. My 23 300SX is hands down the best bike I’ve ever ridden. 🤘😎 Only thing more appealing is a 25 300XC. The detail changes look like they’ve nailed everything. 😎 The new generation platform is brilliant, ergo wise it makes my 15 300EXC feel old school. Standing and gripping the bike on the on the new platform is so intuitive. It’s so much better in that regard.
Pro riders prefer stiffer, you can always tune back with forged clamps and skinny rear. For the masses, this hurt Honda, Yamaha and KTM. I own the 22 Husqvarna 450 and 23 Gas Gas 450. When KTM was the pinnacle bike imo.
Thank god they got rid of the hideous purple graphics. Probably fired that dude. Can you adjust the rear shock or is it still covered by the side plate?
Idk the 2023s were beautiful if you paired them up with those Purple Retro Renthal bars. I got the first year TBI TC125 Heritage. Gave me problems at first but fixed the issue runs great. Enough bike for me anyways.
I took all the white plastics off my 23 300SX and turned it into a 22.5 250SX-F Factory replica. Turned them all into Orange/Black 🤘😄 Could probably fix the access to the clickers with a hole saw… doesn’t need much off it. 😁
Honestly I would take a Suzuki any day because of simplicity. I love my 23 CRF that's why I got it but when it comes to doing any work it's hell. Parts are a lot more expensive and since there is so much tech everything is very cramped and a crap ton of wires and sensors to deal with.
As a KTM owner, I don't doubt them that this is the best KTM 450 yet with all the adjustments they made to improving comfort and compliance. With that said, we all feel like hero's on a perfectly prepped track and every bike feels amazing. I think the reviewers opinions were affected by "perfect riding day" syndrome.
So then every single bike would be perfect? They test all kinds of bikes on a perfect track to see how each bike preforms. If conditions are unchanging, then bike reviews will be more accurate. This is where i think the mxa guys do really good by actually racing the bikes and thereby testing them for actual race scenarios - where these bikes are made to preform. I get your sentiment, but it would only work if they only tested one bike.
KTM has consistently been at the forefront of innovation in the industry, setting trends that other manufacturers often follow. From their minimalist plastics and sleek designs to their impressive horsepower and superior handling, KTM has always led the way.
Nu uh until recently have they started to “lead the pack” Yamaha has been doing way more innovation
@@BrandonWiebe937what’s the weight comparison
@@peterboudoures8998 the older yamis were quite a bit heavier but the new ones are near the same. 2023 ktm 450 is 239lbs and 2023 yz450f is 240 pounds so 1 pound more
I've never owned a KTM but have to admit this has my attention.
It’s one of those things everyone should do at least once if you can. When I bought my first one, I mistakenly said I would “never” buy a Japanese bike again…fast forward 3 years and there’s a Yamaha in the garage again.
@@reineherrera8897 Same, i've gone back and forth and i'm sure i will again (thinking '24 350 XCF). KTM does make an excellent quality bike.
@@OtisFlint They do make a quality product. It's undeniable how good the brakes are in comparison to their Japanese counterparts and the clutch is super durable. Aside from those two standout attributes, I don't think it justifies the $1,000 to $1,500 (and more when you’re looking at the XC models) difference in price in my view. Especially when you take into account the suspension performance of their competitors. One would think that they are saving some money in production cost as well when it comes to the WP air fork as the air-side leg is identical in all of the full-sized bikes and they really just change the suggested air pressure (Spring rate). That leaves just one leg to valve per model, for example, in the MX models during manufacturing process. Essentially, for every 2 forks someone sits and valves for an AER KTM, 2 bikes get done while everyone else just has 1 bike done for the same amount of work. That over thousands of units I imagine equates to a lot more bikes finished up than the others, right? Not asking rhetorically, just an observation and wondering if anyone else has the same stance.
I used to talk so much shit with a fleet of Hondas in my basement, one day had the opportunity to buy a ktm250sx belonging to Travis Pastrana and I couldn’t turn it up with him being my childhood hero and a legend in the sport and after I rode it I was finally broken with the reality of how good they are even with the air forks. Now my basement is a fleet of KTMs
125sx
250sx
250sxf
450sxf
Each one is stupid good especially that 125 it’s insane how good these bikes are. You will not be disappointed ever going with one. Don’t buy all the bullshit either about bolts coming loose to spokes I’ve never had a bolt come loose or spokes constantly needing to be tightened just torque the bike and check the way you would normally do every service and you’ll be problem free always. There was a torture test 100 hours no maintenance and the bike never failed once and when they took it apart still looked great with more hours to go before needing the service done to it. They’re unbeatable for reliability and style and performance.
@@reineherrera8897 Got a price on a 24 YZ250 vs a new 25 SX250 and it was less than $1000 difference from a dealership in Houston
Love the shape, colours and front fender
looks f'in amazing
I love my 2024.5 factory ! amazing bike , but have to say they knocked it out of the park with the colors !
Me too, best bike I've ever had and I thought the 22 was also, Then this just raised the bar even further!
Really keen to see the 350 sxf review if you guys do one. Love the 350s.
$275 for the connectivity,fender and GPS . got for my 23 and it's amazing, especially taking out some engine braking
I added the connectivity unit to my 24 350 and I love it !! I can take the engine break to nothing .. it was 250.00 bucks but for me it was worth it. I'm sure it would also be great on the 450.
Love this! Looking to upgrade in the next year or two. Love my 2022 ktm.
Don't, it's literally the 22 bike. Save your cash.
Am I the only one who actually didn’t mind the stiffer chassis? If anything I preferred it tbh love my 23 fc450 rockstar
Quite a few of us riding the 23/24 SX bikes mostly in the dunes… stiffness probably helps with all the high speed hits and G-Outs. My 23 300SX is hands down the best bike I’ve ever ridden. 🤘😎
Only thing more appealing is a 25 300XC. The detail changes look like they’ve nailed everything. 😎
The new generation platform is brilliant, ergo wise it makes my 15 300EXC feel old school. Standing and gripping the bike on the on the new platform is so intuitive. It’s so much better in that regard.
Pro riders prefer stiffer, you can always tune back with forged clamps and skinny rear. For the masses, this hurt Honda, Yamaha and KTM. I own the 22 Husqvarna 450 and 23 Gas Gas 450. When KTM was the pinnacle bike imo.
They look way better now.
Thank god they got rid of the hideous purple graphics. Probably fired that dude. Can you adjust the rear shock or is it still covered by the side plate?
Idk the 2023s were beautiful if you paired them up with those Purple Retro Renthal bars.
I got the first year TBI TC125 Heritage. Gave me problems at first but fixed the issue runs great. Enough bike for me anyways.
I took all the white plastics off my 23 300SX and turned it into a 22.5 250SX-F Factory replica. Turned them all into Orange/Black 🤘😄 Could probably fix the access to the clickers with a hole saw… doesn’t need much off it. 😁
is the power smooth enough with maps etc to start with a 450 ?
People can hate all they want. KTM makes the best bikes
Did they actually make the bike more narrow in between the legs? When I owned my 23’, it felt much wider than the 18’ and the 19’ Husky I had.
the 24.5 feels slimmer to me than the 22 at least.
When 2025 350 xcf video going to be uploaded?
how much do they pay these guys to say "this is the best bike ever" each year?
sure is purdy 🤩
Does the 2025 350 get the same upgrades?
Yes
Every week there is a new frame. Good god can't the engineers get this right for gods sake at least for a few years.
Take it to a hard pack Track and let us know what you think... curious
actually 2024 is a leap year, so summer starts on the 20th, the halfway point must be the 14th. 🤓
Halfway is 30 June 😊
@@SimonTaylor-fc7egor would that be july 1st? 🤔
@@DougTunnler lol yes correct 👍
I would like to meet the average consumer that rides 30-minute motos at speed & shake his hand 😂
KTM 2025: Mistakes were made, we're bringing back the 2022 frame..
"Its long and broad" yeah, thats what she said 😂😂
I prefer 2024 Ktm 450 COLOR WAY😂🎉.
What is the biggest joke of this year for 2025? Suzuki rmz450
Honestly I would take a Suzuki any day because of simplicity. I love my 23 CRF that's why I got it but when it comes to doing any work it's hell. Parts are a lot more expensive and since there is so much tech everything is very cramped and a crap ton of wires and sensors to deal with.
Might be the best KTM 450 but it’s not the best 450. More to come. 😂😂😂