Colonial Marines I can understand, but this iteration of AvP was really good, the shooting was solid, graphics were really nice and 'stylised' without being cartoony, the audio design is again, solid and faithful to the source material.. Yeah, I'm not sure what the hell people were expecting but it was a good game!
The hate is in comparison with the other previous games that played better etc. I think it's a solid title, but it does not overcome the predecessors. Although... the reviewer keep saying that the first one was better. It's bs, it was totally unbalanced both single and multiplayer. This one, seems to be the most balanced of them all.
I found the Alien campaign to be surprisingly compelling even though its so incredibly short. Mainly feels like theres alot of wasted potential. I especially feel the lab segments should have been significantly extended to flesh out the fact that specimen 6 is indeed a more intelligent xenomorph. Kinda like portal but with a biomechanical killing machine. Player completes puzzles and challenges to demonstrate its abilities while testing the facility for weaknesses so it can create an opportunity for escape later and return to the hive. There's alot of potential for a game like that, and the alien campaign could have done this, but strangely didnt. Just a whole lot of wasted potential in this game.
Kyros Droztamyr iirc they were experimenting on "6" because it appeared significantly smarter than the other ones as opposed to experimenting to make it more intelligent. iirc, In the intro "6" waited for the room to be opened before bursting out of it's human's chest.
Also Ben Hoodrich is correct about the alien. It was not *made* smarter, it was *already* smart. The tests were to see just how smart specimen 6 was. When it burst from the human's chest, it waited until they were out of view and then crawled back inside the human. Once the containment jars were pulled away and sealed, the researchers in the room noticed that specimen 6 was nowhere to be found. Specimen 6 remained hidden in the body of the host only until the researchers started to inspect it. It was at that point, specimen 6 realised he was going to be found, so he burst forth again but from the host's mouth and was likely going to make a run for it. But then the researcher in the observation room hit the 'freeze' button, killing the researchers inside the room and freezing specimen 6. Combat androids were then dispatched to retrieve and contain specimen 6. Just think about that. An *infant* animal was able to assess its situation, and formulated a plan to escape just after being born. THERE'S SO MUCH FUCKIN POTENTIAL FOR A GAME FROM THAT. But no, 1 level later and you escape because the power went out. Fuckin waste
@Kyros Droztamyr Why make her a Predalien? Wouldn't that ruin the stealth element? Because PredAlien are incredibly powerful so you can just beat people up as it.
@PerrySport loosen up bro it's just a Lil drugs you would be surprised how over the top and extreme drugs are often perceived until people really try them they really ain't that bad. And what you on about Charlie Sheen is always winning lol
I'm actually downloading this right now, having never played it before and also being a HUGE fan of the first two. AND I just got a hit of what I know is very good lsd. What a crazy coincidence!
I hated PvP in this.. everyone trying to get you from behind to pull an instant kill instead of fighting. just ends up with a chain kill by other players lol. Skirmish was hella fun tho
Ravathiel this is a game I always think about in regards to design. The special kills should have just been for the final killcam or something. This is a game you do better waiting for other players to fight.
Yep. This is what made the multiplayer so much worse than the first two games. They went for a console shooter button mashy experience with the press X to kill nonsense. It was fine in single player but just totally killed the flow of the multi. Though it was funny to watch Alien vs Predator congo line of different one's running up an backstabing each other.
@@Ravathiel marines were actually good if you knew how to play. If you counter a pred or an alien they're dead. The only thing that was really fucking stupid was the ceiling heavy spam aliens.
I bought the PC version 2 days ago and played pvp a bit, I was always able to join an active server with 10+ people on it. (there is a difference in player hosted and dedicated servers, dedicated servers are still active) Also, the steam version is 5 EUR (including all DLC) on G2A
Agree that humans shouldn''t stand a chance in melee against an Alien, absolutely no way. The Aliens are described in the books as biomechanoid and strong enough to tear sheet metal.
I agree, although I get why they did it. It was clearly done for the sake of multiplayer balance. Otherwise Marines would get slaughtered everytime a Xenomorph closes the distance which will be often given how fast they are compared to the other 2 classes. But I do think this mechanic should have been exclusive to multiplayer at most.
i don't know why many people say this game iss't very good. For me this is the best avp game and overall an EXTREMELY enjoyable game high on my list of favourite games. the only thing i don't like is that the campaign is too short and that the multiplayer is almost dead, i'm making my pc next week and i'm starting playing this game for the 10th time probably.
@PerrySport Wtf are you talking about? A game can't be good if it has a relatively short campaign and no multiplayer? I mean it's not "the best", but it has a lot going for it regardless.
I enjoyed it for what it was. Speaking to a friend of a friend who was one of the developers on the game, it seems Sega slashed the budge and pushed forward the release window, because ether knew the Colonial Marines was dragging, and they wanted to get an Aliens game out there (having paid quite a bit for the license). Stuff that was supposed to be included was either never built, or had to be dropped. So, if AvP 2010 was lacking, blame Randy Pitchford. (Mind you, I enjoyed Colonial Marines for what it was as well. But I'm a sucker for Aliens universe games).
What a coincidence that I just get done watching the rest of your Alien series reviews hours before you uploaded this one. I also wanted to let you know that you're one of the best reviewers on TH-cam and I consistently love your content. I don't say that lightly and not trying to blow smoke up your ass so to speak. Other reviewers usually have an annoying 'tick' where they'll tell bad jokes or beat around the bush, or just complain about games for the sake of complaining (Like your friend Gggmanlives). Looking forward to anything you do in the future!
@@marshmallowmonster7731 mmm interesting, i was really good on the ps3, i had all the dlcs but no one to play with... it sucked that ranked play on console was so empy. Now that a lot of people on these video say that avp is still alive i might buy it, always loved the "watch everywhere" feeling. even when being a predator you still didnt felt so secure.
Yehp. To this day. Played it a couple weeks ago. 2-3 servers tend to be up with players. Sadly, there are some who just end up standing still to get XP or something.
I think that the game should be given a big discount for the fact that it was developed for only 2.5 years, which is very little, because AVP 1999 was made for almost 5 years. If anyone is interested, you can search the Internet for cut content in the game, I’ll just give a small part of what didn’t make it into the game -Cut out a crossbow from a Predator and also level 2 -The alien’s ability to play as a Pretarian was cut out, and the final level on the ship was also removed, it was made into a video -The Alien suffered the most, almost 70% of its content was cut out, including the ability to fully travel through the ventilation levels -The Marine’s introduction to the crew on the ship was cut out (Apparently it was planned to be a video or training) If you're willing to give this game a discount because it was rushed, then overall it's a good game.
so how do we get a kickstarter going for a new AVP game? (minimum 8 hour campaign each race!) it think its been long enough and that new unreal engine is really good i hear
I was surprised when he said he doesn't understand why they included melee attack for the marines. This move is very useful. It's difficult to pull off, but it's useful when done correctly. It takes 3 melee attacks to knock them off and get you enough time to reload. My god, the xenomorphs are difficult to kill. I'm glad they included a melee. When you lit the xenos on fire, you RUN. Problem solved. You don't sit like a duck and watch it. If I'm the alien on fire, I'd also get to you till my last breath. These decisions I think are some of the things that made the experience better. If it's too difficult and frustrating for you, then try playing 1990s cartridge games. I bet you'd kill yourself out of frustration trying to beat them and win. This game is great (in general) in my opinion.
i loved this game to bits, my first ever game on the ps3 and i never understood the hate for it. It was my favourite game ever for a very long time. The nightclub mission for the marine campaign was undoubtedly the scariest
What I learned from this game is... Don't let your guard down! Don't let your guard down! Don't let your guard down! Don't let your guard down! Don't let your guard down! Don't let...nah forget it
This game will ALWAYS be in my collection, same for isolation. I remember my friend dreaded playing the marine campaign, kept trying to give me the controller lol. With the updated graphics and the nice lighting it really immerses you into the creepiness.
The finishing moves in multiplayer created some of the funniest conga lines! The most I was apart of was a 15 kill line. Great times minus the lack of no crouching.
I only played AVP2 and the expansion before this game I felt this was a letdown, yet still sunk so many hours into the multiplayer Many fond memories Thank you for this reminder
I think the whole thing with being able to knock back aliens as a marine is just for the purpose of giving you some fighting chance of surviving if an alien gets too close, otherwise there's really nothing you can do short of killing both the alien and yourself with its acid blood. Keep in mind, it's not as if you can kill the alien with a melee attack; the best you can do is hold it off for two or three seconds, often not enough time to reload. It's just for game balance.
I went back and watched your other videos after you popped up in my recommendations... now I’m subbed. Great to have another longform PC-centric reviewer on TH-cam who focuses on older games too (and isn’t screaming for likes or adding red arrows to their clickbait thumbnails). Looking forward to what’s next!
I loved this game. I wish the campaign was longer but that’s about it. I only got to the multiplayer when the population was ridiculously small. But when I found games they were fun as hell.
Multiplayer still works. I play it two days back. I have it on steam and everytime I go play avp multiplayer there are about 20 to 40 players. Good review
*This game has got to get a good sequel* edit: and I agree @ 3:59 , the alien felt so under-powered in this game. The devs must've been Predator fanboys or something lol. Additionally the MP suffered from balancing issues and a real lack of customization. The PvP boiled down to a meta of plasma casting, wall tailing, and shotgun blocking for all species respectively. You know what I'm talking about if you got good at the MP, which I did. I wish they would've added some sort of evolution system for the alien i.e. armor, claws, tail upgrades and maybe options to molt into higher breeds on the alien caste system at the sacrifice of other abilities. The marines and preds could've had something similar with their weapons, armor and tools. Maybe add species specific killstreaks like power loaders, queens, and exotic predator weapons. Point being is that they created some solid aspects of this game but it felt half baked and they basically abandoned it after launch. Reeeeeeeally hoping for a great sequel though. This franchise has so much potential from a gameplay standpoint.
In AVP2010's defence, Marines cannot knock Xenomorphs over in higher difficulty settings such as Hard and Nightmare. In fact, NPC Xenos really cannot be knocked down at all, whether by a Marine or Predator player. Also, in higher difficulty settings, the game no longs prompts you which buttons to press in order to counter an enemy in combat so you will have to learn to read enemies' animations in order to make a counter-attack. Anyway, if you want a more immersive experience, you should for either Hard or Nightmare difficulty.
Bought it at full price back then, got zero regrets! I think the lack of weps for the marines and preds was due to the kill animations which imo was the highlight of the game.
I did notice that the notification of the pummel for the marine shows up when the alien winds up a heavy attack aka when it´s least stable on it´s feet. it does makes sense to smack the fucker there because he´ll most likely fall over
Multiplayer is still alive on the PC, yes there are a few bugs in the game and the PNG can be high at times depending on where you are but it still enjoyable. There are different game modes on these servers but the most common one is the species team deathmatch. However, there is an unbalance when all three characters come together with the Marines being the weakest and the Aliens being the strongest, though Predators can be OP at times. But it's all about practising your skills and after each game you earn XPs to level up, and you can earn different skills for the characters which isn't that much other than just changing your appearance.
I love this game but everyone else seems to hate it. I'm glad that you gave this game a fair chance. There are still people playing the multiplayer but not that many. When I try to play at night, all servers are empty but over the day there are at least 2 servers that are full. I really want a new AvP game, it's been 8 years now!
@14:06 Couldn't find any games? Didn't you say you played the PC version? I've been playing online for the past few days... You need to search for servers that are: 1. Dedicated Internet, and 2. Player Hosted I was playing Species Team Death Match. There's usually one server with enough people to have a good match, and you can also install and run your own dedicated server if you have the means to do so.
Most understated quote in this entire review is at 3:58. "...the Marine can actually knock back an Alien. I don’t know what the f--- the developers were thinking, but that is not good." Hell, has *any* human in the "Alien" films ever even *injured* an Xenomorph by simply hitting it? This isn't nitpicking. This is common f---ing sense!
Gaming Pastime 6:00 You forgot about eating brains regenerate instantly. Just aiming to the head on the corpse and press "E" (on keyboard on PC, don't know how it's on consoles)
I have it on PC and xbox 360 and is a pretty good game imo, but, the multiplayer is so dead that I coudln't find any server with players, Campaign is pretty good tho, my favorite campaign was the marine and predator campaign, hope they could remaster this game on for this gen with new content, so people will start to play it once again.
@ The melee criticism : You know the marine in both previous games had a melee option right? Not exactly a new concept in this series. If you happen to be completely out of ammo, you would use the Pulse Rifle like a baseball bat. The second game straight up gives you a combat knife. At least in this game, it's replaced with a very useful Left 4 Dead-like knockback. A part of me is convinced that if the Marine DIDN'T have this mechanic, you would have criticized the game for being unfair in not including him within the new melee system, and then would have overlooked how bad Sprint is which could have made up for it if it lasted longer.
NB DRIFTS this ive bought it from an electronics store years ago and he multiplayer was so fucking fun, sneaking up behind marines as an alien and slapping them up with my tail then punching a hole through their skull with it was the shit, and you would see what executions were done to you as well, dope game no lie
Love this game personally. Spent loads of time on multiplayer , although I wish more people supported it (including the devs...) fingers crossed for AVP4
I remember playing the multiplayer for this game on the Xbox 360. To me, it was the best thing in the world. I think the way you have to fight in multiplayer is much more different than the way you fight in the campaign. Not saying it's the best, but it is certainly one of my favorite multiplayer games. Just watching the executions as a Xeno and Predator was good enough, you can understand why people would just try to do that instead of attacking upfront. I mean, isn't that the point? It breaks my heart to see something like this get hate because it's really not bad at all, it might be a little late for a 2018 version so I'm going to have my fingers crossed for the future. ;D
All I can say about multiplayer is that there's deathmatch, TDM, species TD, predator hunt, infestation and domination. I'm my opinion the team's seems unbalanced in the deathmatchs because players kept being predators then camp most of the time, aliens are average against the 2 species depending on the player except when they attack while on the wall that's annoying but the marines are mostly unused because of how underpowered they are. Predator hunt and infestation were fun at the time where it requires thinking of how to take out your preys and survive and domination is a bit like TDM. Fun to play some time but annoying when you encounter campers and walk attackers. There's ranked and friendly matches where in friendly you get full control on what mode, match and in DM which species should be in there and you can start anytime. Ranked is random so it can be any modes and area and unfortunately it requires a certain amount of players to start the game might be why players choose friendly over ranked. Trophies/achievements is now near impossible to get in multiplayer so you need a lot of friends to get them all so unless you can get about 6 people to help you, best not get the unachievable ones due to the lack of players.
Strange you didn't find any MP servers...my guess is that you didn't browse for "Dedicated Servers [internet]". I literally just looked now and found about 20 servers...altho only 2 had players tbh.
Lance Henriksen and Michael Ironside in ... EVERY SCI-FI EVER. Now in a TH-cam comment near you! 14:15 - Multiplayer is unfortunately kinda dead. If you had asked for Multiplayer players in the AvP2 video for this one, I would had gladly offered to play it. I disagree on that the story is bad, and I disagree vehemently on everyone who says that the game is bad because of some very poor reasons. But I will say that I agree with you on that it feels like it lacked passion. Some of the parts were really good and others were.. Not as good. The story to me, is most interesting and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I wish - hope, they'll make a follow-up to this with all the players going to Xenoprime next. So seeing as you've done AvP 1-3 now, I take it next up is either the Snes, the Atari Jaguar, the Game Boy game, any of the Alien 3 games, or C64 games like the two different Aliens versions, or even Alien, or Alien Isolation, or the Arcade games, or NDS Alien Infestation - Or Predator Concrete Jungle mayhaps? Also, on regards of memorable moments in AvP3 - The Predator vs Predalien fight, the song called "The Abomination" is fantastic. And in Aliens vs Predator 1 ( *2000 Classic, Original etc* ) do the following: - Complete the Alien Campaign in Director's Cut to unlock all the Bonus stages. - Complete the Bonus Stage " Invasion " - Now, exit the game and start the game with the command line to enable cheats ingame ( _I forgot what it was but, google_ ) - Make sure you turn yourself Immortal. - Run to the Marine Starting area and spawn a lot of MARINEBOT .They'll probably end up killing themselves but, trust me. - Run to the Predator starting area and spawn exactly 1 PREDATORBOT. - Now run back to where you started ( _Alien start_ ) and looking into the vent, spawn like, 10 or more alien bots and maybe some Predalien bots. - Likewise spawn some by the ladder near the vent. - Wait 5 min or so, do dishes, bathroom break etc. - Now, explore the level and watch the havoc. Aliens, will jump into fans and acid blood will spew all over anyone unfortunate enough to stand there. Marines, will explore the level slowly upwards and get panicked and die at just about every moment. And when you see him, the Predator, can be almost ANYWHERE randomly as he will run around the entire stage, hunting both aliens and marines alike. It's truly amazing and never ceases to impress me.
I actually love this game. It’s not perfect but it gets a lot of things right. While I agree that the marine shouldn’t be able to knock down an Alien, it was done to offer the opportunity to stun the Alien if they got too close. I don’t have a problem with being able to stun them but it shouldn’t be a simple strike. I would’ve had the marine spark a flare in the face of the Alien causing it to jump back in fear of the fire. Fits the established characteristics of the xenomorph and utilizes the flare from the original 1999 game because it’s not as prevalent in this one to begin with.
The main thing I disliked about multiplayer is that when you played as the preatorian skin, others can here the roar but not yourself which really bothered me.
What I know is that the Alien has never looked better. MAke a Remake of AvP 2 with the graphics of AvP 2010 and you have completed a good game to 3/4. The rest is a good Combat System. Unique to each Race. Oh and btw. I think the first game sucks. What else than running around and kill everything is there? I have played it a bit and I haven't found any Story at all. So I prefer this game and AvP2 over Classic any day.
"MAke a Remake of AvP 2 with the graphics of AvP 2010 and you have completed a good game to 3/4" No, a AvP2 remake in the Cryengine would be awesome! A dude remaked the first marine level from 1999 AvP game with the Cryengine and it's looking awesome!
Good review. I played this game a few years back and found it, alright. The pieces are there for a great game, but like you said, it all feels a bit slapped together and lacks passion, at least the prior two games rectify this. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Colonial Marines. I met Michael Biehn last month at a convention and when I asked him about how he got involved with Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, he explained that when he was first asked to play Rex, he was a little hesitant to voice the character after his experience working on Colonial Marines.
Imagine if rebellion had been given the aliens colonial marines project instead of gearbox. This game played better and looks better than colonial marines. And it was released 3 years prior!!! Whilst the dialog maybe not amazing it's a masterpiece in comparison
shoulder cannon always was operated on left hand's computer, developers of 2010 ver. made another mistake... that is why double wristblades is a bullshit
Humans can knock back aliens. There is nothing in the cannon that says xenomorphs are stronger than humans. What makes xenomorphs so dangerous is them sneaking up on their prey. If they just run up to someone, then they're gonna get their ass handed to them some of the time. This is easily the best AvP game to date.
I don't think it's about strength, I think it's more about Xenos being able kill humans at close range instantly whether it be via head bite or with their tail among other ways. Smacking them around like that is just ridiculous to me. Same with shoving off Facehuggers. Marine or no Marine, it took 3 Marines to get a Facehugger off Ripley. The Facehugger's tail will wrap itself around a human's neck. So shoving it away with one hand like that is questionable.
I think people stopped complaining about this game when Colonial Marines came out. The alien movement in this vs. the crappy colonial marines is night and day. But your criticisms on this game is correct.
AvP 2 was definitely the best game of the series. Better story, superior multiplayer, and all around more fun. I wish it would come to steam cause it just does not want to play for win 10 or any compatibility settings
If it bleeds, we can mod it...
Honestly I really liked this game, never understood the hate...
Bunka Fas same I had alot fun with it. I think people think wayy to critical. It's just a video game.
Colonial Marines I can understand, but this iteration of AvP was really good, the shooting was solid, graphics were really nice and 'stylised' without being cartoony, the audio design is again, solid and faithful to the source material.. Yeah, I'm not sure what the hell people were expecting but it was a good game!
Kyros Droztamyr lol when I used to play this on 360 years ago people would leave if they couldn't play predator or alien
Bunka Fas You are dead to us, Bunka Fas.
The hate is in comparison with the other previous games that played better etc. I think it's a solid title, but it does not overcome the predecessors. Although... the reviewer keep saying that the first one was better. It's bs, it was totally unbalanced both single and multiplayer. This one, seems to be the most balanced of them all.
I found the Alien campaign to be surprisingly compelling even though its so incredibly short.
Mainly feels like theres alot of wasted potential. I especially feel the lab segments should have been significantly extended to flesh out the fact that specimen 6 is indeed a more intelligent xenomorph. Kinda like portal but with a biomechanical killing machine. Player completes puzzles and challenges to demonstrate its abilities while testing the facility for weaknesses so it can create an opportunity for escape later and return to the hive. There's alot of potential for a game like that, and the alien campaign could have done this, but strangely didnt. Just a whole lot of wasted potential in this game.
Kyros Droztamyr iirc they were experimenting on "6" because it appeared significantly smarter than the other ones as opposed to experimenting to make it more intelligent. iirc, In the intro "6" waited for the room to be opened before bursting out of it's human's chest.
exactly, the PvP was 2D and had no customization to keep you coming back. Plus it was broken and unbalanced as hell.
DaManBearPig
I have no idea what you are on about.
Also Ben Hoodrich is correct about the alien. It was not *made* smarter, it was *already* smart.
The tests were to see just how smart specimen 6 was. When it burst from the human's chest, it waited until they were out of view and then crawled back inside the human. Once the containment jars were pulled away and sealed, the researchers in the room noticed that specimen 6 was nowhere to be found. Specimen 6 remained hidden in the body of the host only until the researchers started to inspect it. It was at that point, specimen 6 realised he was going to be found, so he burst forth again but from the host's mouth and was likely going to make a run for it. But then the researcher in the observation room hit the 'freeze' button, killing the researchers inside the room and freezing specimen 6. Combat androids were then dispatched to retrieve and contain specimen 6.
Just think about that. An *infant* animal was able to assess its situation, and formulated a plan to escape just after being born. THERE'S SO MUCH FUCKIN POTENTIAL FOR A GAME FROM THAT. But no, 1 level later and you escape because the power went out. Fuckin waste
@Kyros Droztamyr Why make her a Predalien? Wouldn't that ruin the stealth element? Because PredAlien are incredibly powerful so you can just beat people up as it.
I played the marine portion on Acid, and man it felt like the most immersive experience I had in a video game.
badaiyo Why would you subject yourself to that? Lmao were you not afraid of having a bad trip?
badaiyo dude try playing Left 4 Dead on mushrooms, that shit was fucking crazy.
@PerrySport loosen up bro it's just a Lil drugs you would be surprised how over the top and extreme drugs are often perceived until people really try them they really ain't that bad. And what you on about Charlie Sheen is always winning lol
I'm actually downloading this right now, having never played it before and also being a HUGE fan of the first two. AND I just got a hit of what I know is very good lsd. What a crazy coincidence!
I eagerly look forward to replicating your experience, my fellow psychonaut!
I hated PvP in this.. everyone trying to get you from behind to pull an instant kill instead of fighting. just ends up with a chain kill by other players lol.
Skirmish was hella fun tho
Ravathiel this is a game I always think about in regards to design. The special kills should have just been for the final killcam or something. This is a game you do better waiting for other players to fight.
Yep. This is what made the multiplayer so much worse than the first two games. They went for a console shooter button mashy experience with the press X to kill nonsense. It was fine in single player but just totally killed the flow of the multi. Though it was funny to watch Alien vs Predator congo line of different one's running up an backstabing each other.
and if I recal the marines didn't have the instant kill.
Marines were fucked in PvP but in an unbalanced sensible way.
@@Ravathiel marines were actually good if you knew how to play. If you counter a pred or an alien they're dead. The only thing that was really fucking stupid was the ceiling heavy spam aliens.
There are dedicated servers on pc. The multiplayer is still alive
what do u mean i have the game on ps3 and i want it on pc but its dead? right or is it still alive lol
I bought the PC version 2 days ago and played pvp a bit, I was always able to join an active server with 10+ people on it. (there is a difference in player hosted and dedicated servers, dedicated servers are still active)
Also, the steam version is 5 EUR (including all DLC) on G2A
@ avp 2 also still active
Agree that humans shouldn''t stand a chance in melee against an Alien, absolutely no way.
The Aliens are described in the books as biomechanoid and strong enough to tear sheet metal.
I agree, although I get why they did it. It was clearly done for the sake of multiplayer balance. Otherwise Marines would get slaughtered everytime a Xenomorph closes the distance which will be often given how fast they are compared to the other 2 classes. But I do think this mechanic should have been exclusive to multiplayer at most.
The atmosphere in this game was absolutely perfect. The nostalgia is for real.
i don't know why many people say this game iss't very good. For me this is the best avp game and overall an EXTREMELY enjoyable game high on my list of favourite games. the only thing i don't like is that the campaign is too short and that the multiplayer is almost dead, i'm making my pc next week and i'm starting playing this game for the 10th time probably.
I'm buying it
What is the best campaign
@PerrySport Wtf are you talking about? A game can't be good if it has a relatively short campaign and no multiplayer? I mean it's not "the best", but it has a lot going for it regardless.
I enjoyed it for what it was. Speaking to a friend of a friend who was one of the developers on the game, it seems Sega slashed the budge and pushed forward the release window, because ether knew the Colonial Marines was dragging, and they wanted to get an Aliens game out there (having paid quite a bit for the license). Stuff that was supposed to be included was either never built, or had to be dropped. So, if AvP 2010 was lacking, blame Randy Pitchford.
(Mind you, I enjoyed Colonial Marines for what it was as well. But I'm a sucker for Aliens universe games).
Really!? That would be awesome stuff for an interesting video game press article.
What a coincidence that I just get done watching the rest of your Alien series reviews hours before you uploaded this one. I also wanted to let you know that you're one of the best reviewers on TH-cam and I consistently love your content. I don't say that lightly and not trying to blow smoke up your ass so to speak.
Other reviewers usually have an annoying 'tick' where they'll tell bad jokes or beat around the bush, or just complain about games for the sake of complaining (Like your friend Gggmanlives). Looking forward to anything you do in the future!
This is a criminally underrated game.
14:05 What? I can assure you that multiplayer on steam version is very much alive to this day.
Even to this day?
Yes, there is always at least one private server active.
@@marshmallowmonster7731 mmm interesting, i was really good on the ps3, i had all the dlcs but no one to play with... it sucked that ranked play on console was so empy.
Now that a lot of people on these video say that avp is still alive i might buy it, always loved the "watch everywhere" feeling. even when being a predator you still didnt felt so secure.
Yehp. To this day. Played it a couple weeks ago. 2-3 servers tend to be up with players. Sadly, there are some who just end up standing still to get XP or something.
I think that the game should be given a big discount for the fact that it was developed for only 2.5 years, which is very little, because AVP 1999 was made for almost 5 years.
If anyone is interested, you can search the Internet for cut content in the game, I’ll just give a small part of what didn’t make it into the game
-Cut out a crossbow from a Predator and also level 2
-The alien’s ability to play as a Pretarian was cut out, and the final level on the ship was also removed, it was made into a video
-The Alien suffered the most, almost 70% of its content was cut out, including the ability to fully travel through the ventilation levels
-The Marine’s introduction to the crew on the ship was cut out (Apparently it was planned to be a video or training)
If you're willing to give this game a discount because it was rushed, then overall it's a good game.
I was terrified of the marine campaign because of the predator noise at the start.
Honestly this game is a classic for me
3:58 good point!
(about human vs alien
melee combat)
so how do we get a kickstarter going for a new AVP game? (minimum 8 hour campaign each race!) it think its been long enough and that new unreal engine is really good i hear
I was surprised when he said he doesn't understand why they included melee attack for the marines. This move is very useful. It's difficult to pull off, but it's useful when done correctly. It takes 3 melee attacks to knock them off and get you enough time to reload. My god, the xenomorphs are difficult to kill. I'm glad they included a melee.
When you lit the xenos on fire, you RUN. Problem solved. You don't sit like a duck and watch it. If I'm the alien on fire, I'd also get to you till my last breath. These decisions I think are some of the things that made the experience better. If it's too difficult and frustrating for you, then try playing 1990s cartridge games. I bet you'd kill yourself out of frustration trying to beat them and win.
This game is great (in general) in my opinion.
I was obsessed with this game for years. Got to the point online I could beat a Full match by myself. It was such great fun.
i loved this game to bits, my first ever game on the ps3 and i never understood the hate for it. It was my favourite game ever for a very long time. The nightclub mission for the marine campaign was undoubtedly the scariest
What I learned from this game is... Don't let your guard down! Don't let your guard down! Don't let your guard down! Don't let your guard down! Don't let your guard down! Don't let...nah forget it
This game will ALWAYS be in my collection, same for isolation. I remember my friend dreaded playing the marine campaign, kept trying to give me the controller lol. With the updated graphics and the nice lighting it really immerses you into the creepiness.
The finishing moves in multiplayer created some of the funniest conga lines! The most I was apart of was a 15 kill line. Great times minus the lack of no crouching.
I have been waiting for this video since the last one
I only played AVP2 and the expansion before this game
I felt this was a letdown, yet still sunk so many hours into the multiplayer
Many fond memories
Thank you for this reminder
AvP2 is 100 x better :)
I think the whole thing with being able to knock back aliens as a marine is just for the purpose of giving you some fighting chance of surviving if an alien gets too close, otherwise there's really nothing you can do short of killing both the alien and yourself with its acid blood. Keep in mind, it's not as if you can kill the alien with a melee attack; the best you can do is hold it off for two or three seconds, often not enough time to reload. It's just for game balance.
Still one of the best Aliens game out there after Isolation
nice review, definetly learned something about these series .
p.s can't wait to see what other games will you present to us
I bought AVP in the steam summer sale and It runs smoothly but i get stuttering every 20 seconds or so, anyone know a fix or anything?
Brian Gaskell maybe lock at 60 fps?
@@gymonx11 worked for me with re7
Great review as always. 👍
There was a second one of these? I wish I knew like 6 years ago
I have just finished the Marine campaign in AVP 2 and OMG what an amazing game. It has the look and feels just like the movie Aliens.
You make one great review after another. That's great! I did buy this game back in the day. It was actually alright.
I didn't know how often I could get energy for other predator weapons. So I just stealth'd it through.
I went back and watched your other videos after you popped up in my recommendations... now I’m subbed. Great to have another longform PC-centric reviewer on TH-cam who focuses on older games too (and isn’t screaming for likes or adding red arrows to their clickbait thumbnails). Looking forward to what’s next!
I loved this game. I wish the campaign was longer but that’s about it. I only got to the multiplayer when the population was ridiculously small. But when I found games they were fun as hell.
Keep this up and you’ll go places, you have the voice for it my dude
Multiplayer still works. I play it two days back. I have it on steam and everytime I go play avp multiplayer there are about 20 to 40 players. Good review
*This game has got to get a good sequel*
edit: and I agree @ 3:59 , the alien felt so under-powered in this game. The devs must've been Predator fanboys or something lol.
Additionally the MP suffered from balancing issues and a real lack of customization. The PvP boiled down to a meta of plasma casting, wall tailing, and shotgun blocking for all species respectively. You know what I'm talking about if you got good at the MP, which I did. I wish they would've added some sort of evolution system for the alien i.e. armor, claws, tail upgrades and maybe options to molt into higher breeds on the alien caste system at the sacrifice of other abilities. The marines and preds could've had something similar with their weapons, armor and tools. Maybe add species specific killstreaks like power loaders, queens, and exotic predator weapons.
Point being is that they created some solid aspects of this game but it felt half baked and they basically abandoned it after launch.
Reeeeeeeally hoping for a great sequel though. This franchise has so much potential from a gameplay standpoint.
Your reviews are so good instant subscriber
In AVP2010's defence, Marines cannot knock Xenomorphs over in higher difficulty settings such as Hard and Nightmare. In fact, NPC Xenos really cannot be knocked down at all, whether by a Marine or Predator player. Also, in higher difficulty settings, the game no longs prompts you which buttons to press in order to counter an enemy in combat so you will have to learn to read enemies' animations in order to make a counter-attack. Anyway, if you want a more immersive experience, you should for either Hard or Nightmare difficulty.
Bought it at full price back then, got zero regrets! I think the lack of weps for the marines and preds was due to the kill animations which imo was the highlight of the game.
I did notice that the notification of the pummel for the marine shows up when the alien winds up a heavy attack aka when it´s least stable on it´s feet. it does makes sense to smack the fucker there because he´ll most likely fall over
Fun fact. The campaigns actually have a chronological order. You can find the right order online if you search for it
Have you reviewed Conker's bad fur day or the remaster Live & reloaded,if not i recommend you should.
The combistick as a melee weapon never made sense to me
that's what wristblades are for right?
The way it's used here is much cooler.
Ohh I've been waiting for this, chill time activated.
You should review The Lost Planet games if you get chance.
I've always loved this game, and surprisingly it halfway supports ultrawide and unlimited framerates. Still holds up.
Underrated channel, your content is awesome man keep it up!
You made this NOW?!
The multiplayer was where this game shined. Might not have been perfectly balanced, but damn, it was fun AF. Some of the best MP memories I have.
this is my first pc game along with l4d2 LONG time ago , and it is still fun now
Multiplayer is still alive on the PC, yes there are a few bugs in the game and the PNG can be high at times depending on where you are but it still enjoyable. There are different game modes on these servers but the most common one is the species team deathmatch. However, there is an unbalance when all three characters come together with the Marines being the weakest and the Aliens being the strongest, though Predators can be OP at times. But it's all about practising your skills and after each game you earn XPs to level up, and you can earn different skills for the characters which isn't that much other than just changing your appearance.
I love this game but everyone else seems to hate it. I'm glad that you gave this game a fair chance.
There are still people playing the multiplayer but not that many.
When I try to play at night, all servers are empty but over the day there are at least 2 servers that are full.
I really want a new AvP game, it's been 8 years now!
AVP 2 is for me the best game of all the AVP games.
I was wondering when you were gonna do this review xD
@14:06 Couldn't find any games? Didn't you say you played the PC version? I've been playing online for the past few days... You need to search for servers that are:
1. Dedicated Internet, and
2. Player Hosted
I was playing Species Team Death Match. There's usually one server with enough people to have a good match, and you can also install and run your own dedicated server if you have the means to do so.
I hope we get a sequel.
Fav childhood game.
Have you considered reviewing the Aliens: Colonial Marines mod for doom? its a pretty good fit for the theme of these AVP reviews.
I played the multi player when it was active, a lot of matches were all alien matches and it was fun but basically only played one map
scoped rifle also lets you see invisible stuff
Most understated quote in this entire review is at 3:58. "...the Marine can actually knock back an Alien. I don’t know what the f--- the developers were thinking, but that is not good." Hell, has *any* human in the "Alien" films ever even *injured* an Xenomorph by simply hitting it? This isn't nitpicking. This is common f---ing sense!
Would you ever review Aliens vs Predator Extinction for PS2/Xbox?
Gaming Pastime 6:00 You forgot about eating brains regenerate instantly. Just aiming to the head on the corpse and press "E" (on keyboard on PC, don't know how it's on consoles)
I feel like no-one remembers the AVP RTS on Playstation 2. I really liked it.
I have it on PC and xbox 360 and is a pretty good game imo, but, the multiplayer is so dead that I coudln't find any server with players, Campaign is pretty good tho, my favorite campaign was the marine and predator campaign, hope they could remaster this game on for this gen with new content, so people will start to play it once again.
I miss this games multilpayer as well.was cool in 2011
the original cam out in 1994 on the Atari jaguar by rebellion. just putting that out there :)
@ The melee criticism : You know the marine in both previous games had a melee option right? Not exactly a new concept in this series. If you happen to be completely out of ammo, you would use the Pulse Rifle like a baseball bat. The second game straight up gives you a combat knife. At least in this game, it's replaced with a very useful Left 4 Dead-like knockback. A part of me is convinced that if the Marine DIDN'T have this mechanic, you would have criticized the game for being unfair in not including him within the new melee system, and then would have overlooked how bad Sprint is which could have made up for it if it lasted longer.
Another review that does not talk about the multiplayer.. 🙄
We're primarily a SP-focused channel. Plus, we found no online games when we played.
Sure.
What's up
The multiplayer is so fun even with terrible ping. Its a shame it’s got a small playerbase
NB DRIFTS this
ive bought it from an electronics store years ago and he multiplayer was so fucking fun, sneaking up behind marines as an alien and slapping them up with my tail then punching a hole through their skull with it was the shit, and you would see what executions were done to you as well, dope game no lie
Love this game personally. Spent loads of time on multiplayer , although I wish more people supported it (including the devs...) fingers crossed for AVP4
Great Review, Multiplayer is still alive, all you had to do is go to Dedicated Servers and Find Lobbies.
I still run through predator and marine campaigns on nightmare at least once a month
Multiplayer is what really made this game.
I remember playing the multiplayer for this game on the Xbox 360. To me, it was the best thing in the world. I think the way you have to fight in multiplayer is much more different than the way you fight in the campaign. Not saying it's the best, but it is certainly one of my favorite multiplayer games. Just watching the executions as a Xeno and Predator was good enough, you can understand why people would just try to do that instead of attacking upfront. I mean, isn't that the point? It breaks my heart to see something like this get hate because it's really not bad at all, it might be a little late for a 2018 version so I'm going to have my fingers crossed for the future. ;D
All I can say about multiplayer is that there's deathmatch, TDM, species TD, predator hunt, infestation and domination.
I'm my opinion the team's seems unbalanced in the deathmatchs because players kept being predators then camp most of the time, aliens are average against the 2 species depending on the player except when they attack while on the wall that's annoying but the marines are mostly unused because of how underpowered they are. Predator hunt and infestation were fun at the time where it requires thinking of how to take out your preys and survive and domination is a bit like TDM. Fun to play some time but annoying when you encounter campers and walk attackers.
There's ranked and friendly matches where in friendly you get full control on what mode, match and in DM which species should be in there and you can start anytime. Ranked is random so it can be any modes and area and unfortunately it requires a certain amount of players to start the game might be why players choose friendly over ranked.
Trophies/achievements is now near impossible to get in multiplayer so you need a lot of friends to get them all so unless you can get about 6 people to help you, best not get the unachievable ones due to the lack of players.
I also like this game and thought it was worth paying for. They did a good job with the sound effects and it paid off with the intensity factor.
Weird that you didn't find any multiplayer game to join, I play this game online and late night there's always people playing it.
Strange you didn't find any MP servers...my guess is that you didn't browse for "Dedicated Servers [internet]".
I literally just looked now and found about 20 servers...altho only 2 had players tbh.
Lance Henriksen and Michael Ironside in ... EVERY SCI-FI EVER.
Now in a TH-cam comment near you!
14:15 - Multiplayer is unfortunately kinda dead.
If you had asked for Multiplayer players in the AvP2 video for this one, I would had gladly offered to play it.
I disagree on that the story is bad, and I disagree vehemently on everyone who says that the game is bad because of some very poor reasons.
But I will say that I agree with you on that it feels like it lacked passion. Some of the parts were really good and others were.. Not as good.
The story to me, is most interesting and I enjoyed it thoroughly. I wish - hope, they'll make a follow-up to this with all the players going to Xenoprime next.
So seeing as you've done AvP 1-3 now, I take it next up is either the Snes, the Atari Jaguar, the Game Boy game, any of the Alien 3 games, or C64 games like the two different Aliens versions, or even Alien, or Alien Isolation, or the Arcade games, or NDS Alien Infestation - Or Predator Concrete Jungle mayhaps?
Also, on regards of memorable moments in AvP3 - The Predator vs Predalien fight, the song called "The Abomination" is fantastic.
And in Aliens vs Predator 1 ( *2000 Classic, Original etc* ) do the following:
- Complete the Alien Campaign in Director's Cut to unlock all the Bonus stages.
- Complete the Bonus Stage " Invasion "
- Now, exit the game and start the game with the command line to enable cheats ingame ( _I forgot what it was but, google_ )
- Make sure you turn yourself Immortal.
- Run to the Marine Starting area and spawn a lot of MARINEBOT .They'll probably end up killing themselves but, trust me.
- Run to the Predator starting area and spawn exactly 1 PREDATORBOT.
- Now run back to where you started ( _Alien start_ ) and looking into the vent, spawn like, 10 or more alien bots and maybe some Predalien bots.
- Likewise spawn some by the ladder near the vent.
- Wait 5 min or so, do dishes, bathroom break etc.
- Now, explore the level and watch the havoc. Aliens, will jump into fans and acid blood will spew all over anyone unfortunate enough to stand there. Marines, will explore the level slowly upwards and get panicked and die at just about every moment. And when you see him, the Predator, can be almost ANYWHERE randomly as he will run around the entire stage, hunting both aliens and marines alike.
It's truly amazing and never ceases to impress me.
Colonial Marines and Concrete Jungle. We would need a solid way to record DS games before we can do Infestation. We're investigating.
Colonial Marines Multiplayer was pretty good with friends
I actually love this game. It’s not perfect but it gets a lot of things right.
While I agree that the marine shouldn’t be able to knock down an Alien, it was done to offer the opportunity to stun the Alien if they got too close.
I don’t have a problem with being able to stun them but it shouldn’t be a simple strike. I would’ve had the marine spark a flare in the face of the Alien causing it to jump back in fear of the fire.
Fits the established characteristics of the xenomorph and utilizes the flare from the original 1999 game because it’s not as prevalent in this one to begin with.
i fucking loved this game
The main thing I disliked about multiplayer is that when you played as the preatorian skin, others can here the roar but not yourself which really bothered me.
Best AVP game for me.
This game looked exceptional in 2010
What I know is that the Alien has never looked better. MAke a Remake of AvP 2 with the graphics of AvP 2010 and you have completed a good game to 3/4. The rest is a good Combat System. Unique to each Race.
Oh and btw. I think the first game sucks. What else than running around and kill everything is there? I have played it a bit and I haven't found any Story at all. So I prefer this game and AvP2 over Classic any day.
"MAke a Remake of AvP 2 with the graphics of AvP 2010 and you have completed a good game to 3/4"
No, a AvP2 remake in the Cryengine would be awesome! A dude remaked the first marine level from 1999 AvP game with the Cryengine and it's looking awesome!
I liked this game in all honestly. Not a masterpiece, but it’s a fun afternoon waster. Good review.
Good review. I played this game a few years back and found it, alright. The pieces are there for a great game, but like you said, it all feels a bit slapped together and lacks passion, at least the prior two games rectify this.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Colonial Marines. I met Michael Biehn last month at a convention and when I asked him about how he got involved with Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, he explained that when he was first asked to play Rex, he was a little hesitant to voice the character after his experience working on Colonial Marines.
Yeah, I love Mike and I read somewhere that he wasn't too thrilled with his experience on ACM.
Imagine if rebellion had been given the aliens colonial marines project instead of gearbox.
This game played better and looks better than colonial marines. And it was released 3 years prior!!!
Whilst the dialog maybe not amazing it's a masterpiece in comparison
Adam Duffield yeah this game still looks really damn good
shoulder cannon always was operated on left hand's computer, developers of 2010 ver. made another mistake... that is why double wristblades is a bullshit
Humans can knock back aliens. There is nothing in the cannon that says xenomorphs are stronger than humans. What makes xenomorphs so dangerous is them sneaking up on their prey. If they just run up to someone, then they're gonna get their ass handed to them some of the time. This is easily the best AvP game to date.
I don't think it's about strength, I think it's more about Xenos being able kill humans at close range instantly whether it be via head bite or with their tail among other ways. Smacking them around like that is just ridiculous to me.
Same with shoving off Facehuggers. Marine or no Marine, it took 3 Marines to get a Facehugger off Ripley. The Facehugger's tail will wrap itself around a human's neck. So shoving it away with one hand like that is questionable.
I wish the 2010 version had the full xenomorph lifecycle
4:02 it was probably to balance it out
I think people stopped complaining about this game when Colonial Marines came out. The alien movement in this vs. the crappy colonial marines is night and day. But your criticisms on this game is correct.
AvP 2 was definitely the best game of the series. Better story, superior multiplayer, and all around more fun. I wish it would come to steam cause it just does not want to play for win 10 or any compatibility settings
I just hope that with the new predator movie a new game is released
The game really could do with some mod love. There is a great game begging to be set free here. :)