The Irishman is not a masterpiece when you consider this man has made casino, goodfellas, taxi driver, cape fear, in my opinion the Irishman doesn’t come close
Did you actually listen to the interview? He says that The Joker in this context ISN'T a comic book character and he fails to see how it could [successfully] become one because it is an abstraction and a character study.
People need to stop crying about this guys opinion. What he’s saying is 100% true. Yes, Marvel movies are cinema but they more so fit into the amusement park category. He isnt saying that’s necessarily bad either. Just compare Taxi Driver to Doctor Strange or something like that, 2 very different films, one allows you to shut your brain off for 2 hours, the other one challenges you for 2 hours. I think Scorsese’s point is completely fair.
He’s not criticizing Marvel. He’s just concerned that spectacle/entertainment is becoming a main priority for audiences at the expense of all other forms of cinema.
Not even that. He is just worried (correctly so) that "superhero" movies are taking over the cinemas leaving no room for any other sort of art/movies to be shown.
@@MrVoland44 Its not blockbusters or that they become big movies by their own thats the problem. Its the big franshice movies that are all homogeneous/the same on an artistic and creative level.
@@dakapo8985 Yes, I think that when Scorsese talks about "comic book characters" and "superhero movies", what he is really referring to is what I would call "IP milking", which completely dominates the business these days and where superhero movies are both the most successful and most aggressive ones with their unlimited number of movies, series and "phases". Blockbusters also existed in the 80s and 90s, but at least they were for the most part original creations at that time and not lazy attempts to milk existing IPs to the death.
@@senseyy8959 Tarantino is a geek. Also he's considerably younger than the other Hollywood Brat filmmakers and his films are not too serious themselves.
Marvel Movies are formulaic by necessity because they are part of one big cinematic universe, which has to be coherent. Superhero movies, including big budget superhero movies with explosions and fight scenes can still be cinema. Instead of asking Edgar Wright why not ask Christopher Nolan if the Dark Knight Trilogy flexed his creative muscles? You might get a different answer.
"I wanted to make a Marvel movie, but I don't think they really wanted to make an Edgar Wright movie." - Edgar Wright. I mean - I like how your defense is "of course they're cookie cutter, they come off an assembly line" like yeah, that's exactly what's being criticized here, genius.
YES!! PETER YOU CAN SEE , AND TELL HE'S A PURE NATIVE NEW YORKER. NATIVE YORKER'S HAVE A TENSE TO SPEAK FAST . IT'S JUST OUR WAY OF EXPRESSING OURSELVES IN THE BIG APPLE 🍎 AND THEIR IS NOT A THING WRONG WITH THAT.👍 LIKE SPRINGSTEEN SING 'S 🎶🎵🎶🎵🎵🎵🎶 BORN IN THE U.S.A. 🎶🎵🎶🎵 WE TALK FAST, AND WALK FAST , AND WE CAN TELL YOUR ASS - OFF IN A MINUTE. 😆 😁😃 DON'T YOU LIKE HIS NEW YORK ACCENT??? HE IS GETTING MAGNIFICENTLY BETTER, AND BETTER WITH AGE . AND AM SURE MRS. SCORSESE IS VERY PROUD OF HER NATIVE NEW YORKER.🌹 TOO. BUT DON'T GET ME WRONG . MR.SCORSESE IS A WELL SOFT SPOKEN AND A CREATIVE AMERICAN ITALIAN. WELL , BEST WISHES AND THANKS FOR SHAREING HONEY 🌹 FROM A BROOKLYN NATIVE NEW YORKER .🍕 🍕
I love how everyone continues to misunderstand him too. He's not saying "Superhero movies bad, you're only allowed to enjoy Tarkovsky and Bergman", he's saying it doesn't fit into his well established idea of what cinema is. It's a movie, but it's not cinema as he knows it. He's obviously not invested in it, but it's not like he denies there is some value in it, or that creative people work on it.
@@Solaire_of_Astora13 Relax man, we too are not saying Superhero genre is bad. It's like he said that as he says ‘Amusement Park Movies’ are not true cinema. He never said that Superheroes movie should never exist and so does we.
I always knew this man wasn't down talking the comic genre. He only expressed that it's a different form of art and is not for him. Fair enough. I never understood how triggered people got by taking what he said out of context
Video is almost 3 minutes but feels like 1 minute. Scorsese has the talent, to put so much depth and insight into his comments and yet it never feels boring. A master.
He didn’t say that he hates superhero films but he’s right when saying they’re theme parks and he also acknowledges they’re a form of art but a different part, some people twist his statement way too much
@buddhasadvocate7238 scorcese fans probably enjoy the GOOD disney films. Disney hasn't made a film on par with it's good films for decades. Only Disney adults believe the new ones are worth jack. It's all soulless remakes and cashgrabs. Also did you seriously just list the scorcese films about gangsters like those are his only films? seriously, After Hours? raging bull? Last Temptation of Christ? Taxi Driver? Expand your own filmography before you talk that shit
but the thing is, Joker is not really a comic book movie, it stands alone. The name "Joker" is there just to attract capeshit-plebs to watch it, the movie doesn't need the connection to the batman lore to work, and probably the parts about that movie that don't work are the parts with connect it to batman such as the cringey bruce wayne scene that had no meaning whatsoever to the the film as a whole
@@alterego5007 it is a comic book movie. Just not like the ones we are familiar with. Because at the final act, the person you saw on screen wasn't Arthur Fleck. It was Joker. DC has a lot of good characters and stories. They need to make this types of movie.
@@jpeg204 both explore very similar themes in similar ways and even the director recognized it as a direct influence. If you can't tell how, then I don't know what to tell you...
Man what would we do without scorsese? I think if it wasn't for him this movie wouldn't existed. Taxi Driver and the King of Comedy were inspirations for this movie.
he’s kind of right, you may disagree but there are a lot of directors out there who want to put their amazing films in theaters but unfortunately many superhero movies (and other franchises) take that away. I love marvel films but there are so much more grounded films that deserve to be watched.
No they aren't. Comic book movies make up maybe 3 percent of all movies in any given year. The VAST majority of movies released are not comic book movies.
@The Abcool he's talking about "number of comic books released compared to other non-comic movies" He wasn't talking about the money . And that's where he's wrong . Sure comic book films release less than non-comic book films but amount of money they make are huge . Not only that but due to this , their marketing are huge as well which results in media showcasing these movies more compared to actual art movies . And so these art movies don't get enough support from audiences .
@@darkseid856 Ahh. But that's not the fault of comic book movies. People are going to like what they like. And many people who go to see comic book movies do think that they are good movies.
Sometimes you listen to classical music and sometimes you listen to rock and roll. Both are good in their own ways. The same idea can be applied to movies.
Mh... I prefer this comparison for movies: Cinema is like reading litterature, whereas marvel or superhero movies is like reading thriller books, or big book series wich are meant for entertainment. We can acknowledge that litterature isn't the most fun to read, yet it leaves a huge print on you and has a huge influence in the world. Reading Percy jackson is entertaining,... then... next, I'll read another one, then another, then another. Not a big deal. But oh man "la recherche" by Marcel Proust was painful to read but it changed my life, it's just another world. So is cinema. cheers!
I light up when I see Martin talk. There's not a single person in the world who is as passionate about anything as he is about cinematography. I wish I had a fraction of his enthusiasm, I don't need anything else - and he's is gifted beyond reason with so much more.
Man I'm a huge comic book movie fan....but it's Martin Scorsese..he can say whatever he wants. That guy has my respect. I grew up watching his movies. A true legend.
Interviewer: Yeah Scorsese: It's not easy. I know you may think I'm pretty sick or something. You think I'm sick?! I bet you really think I'm sick. You think I'm sick?! *Chuckles*
If you made Taxi Driver you dont gain anything from making The Joker. If he could have told the story in a more creative way, he probably would have done it. But youre talking about a character the whole world knows and had an opinion on and then its just so damn dark. I dont think he wanted to revisit that sort of story especially since every other day we get to see the story on the news "crazy, disturbed, misunderstood, bored person walks into a school, church, mall, store with a weapon and empties it."
I grew up on Martins movies and still love them...I also grew up on superheroes and love seeing them on the big screen as an adult...people are entitled to their opinions
I think The Dark Knight is more than just a comic book movie, it’s just good cinema. That film, in my opinion, should be considered among the greatest of all time.
Basically he is a old timer who doesn't want cgi,superhumans,godzilla type sh*t he wants normal movies based with society problems,love emotions nothing crazy with the new technology just basic people and interestingly stories,scary like goodfellas and sad like taxi driver ect.I love that style more and I'm rlly sad when he will be gone and it will a huge gap in film making
I don't understand why people got so mad about what he said. Right here he said superhero films are clearly not for me and they just need to make some room for smaller movies in the theaters. It makes complete sense to me.
The fact that Oscar winning directors and Oscar caliber actors want/expressed in being attached the a joker property says a lot about the character of joker.
''Legendary Filmmaker''' I'm CBM lover but respect the legend. he has point he wants Art house movies to also do well. and people have to support those movie as well.
@@gleekthemonkey4570 not really . Look at the number of trash movies made . (mostly from Disney obviously) . and compare it to the number movies that can be actually be considered as real ART .
Some suggestions to points above: Netflix was the only studio willing to back this movie. Also, filmgoers should read up on monopoly power in movie theater chains and the film industry. You can't break through to audiences today unless you are a comic book movie. Theater chains prioritize the opening weekend. Not because we prefer comic books over others, its that most theaters have no [financial] incentive to show them. They make quicker bucks on opening weekend vs let's say an original property in the 80s like Back to the Future which took like 2 months floating in theaters before it took off word of mouth. The studios, in turn, respond to this by making movies that can break through, hit that opening weekend total which is a sign in our culture now of a "good movie." They're bet is on "brand" movies. Do you see Marty's beef here? Weird original daring movies dont stand a chance, not like the 70s were studios gave more leeway to the new generation of filmmakers to experiment and fill theaters. It wasnt all great but looking back now it was a gold rush of classic cinema. Audiences today dont have those options. We are shaped to like what's there, because the gatekeepers decide what's there, and the gatekeepers now are not film buffs or snobs like Scorcese but CEOs in corporate monopolies.
The thing is that Scorsese’s movies are like novels and big books, while marvel and DC movies are like... well comic books. Both entertaining, just on different ways
@@thepillowhead2453 "Alan Moore books are on a different level dude" They are still comic books, dummy. The name "comic books" has no bearing on its quality. There are good comic books and bad comic books just like everything else.
Ppl should stop characterizing his comments as “dismissive.” Scorsese never called them “theme marks” as to say that those movies are bad. The point was that they’re different from films that he and his contemporaries make.
Since he isn't saying that, I'll go ahead and say it for him. Anyone over the age of 12 who contributes to the Marvel universe in any way, shape, or form is a pathetic man-baby and a scourge on civilized society as a whole. Ya follow?
That’s all Pirates was, but it also had a first entry that still stands as one of my favorite adventure films of all time. But yeah, Jungle Cruise doesn’t have Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, Kiera Knightly, Or Geoffrey Rush, and The Rock doesn’t exactly bring that acting caliber. Emily Blunt definitely has that kind of talent, but from the trailer, Jungle Cruise doesn’t seem to be featuring it.
Sounds like a smart person expressing an opinion in a rational way. he isnt condemning the genre, he isnt dismissing its value, he is just explaining his reasoning for his viewpoints. the rest of society should try it sometime.
I do get his point, and I did think that element took away from the Joker experience. Because when watching Joker you think there is no way this ends well for Arthut. In ANY other movie, he would've died at the end. Maybe as a "hero", maybe as an icon, but he would've died. But... while watching Joker I had in the back of my head that... well... this has to end with him somehow turning in the clown prince of crime, the apparently immortal enemy of the Batman who is still at the very least 10 15 years away from even existing. So... yeah. I do understand his point about having a fantastical script about an amazing character that ultimately has to turn into a comic book character. I get it.
There are some great actors in mcu...and great scripts most of the time...it's not just a no brainer...you need some IQ to watch Mcu films...they are not like trashy comedy popcorn flicks that come out every friday
“You follow?”
- Martin Scorsese 2019
- Every Instagram self-promoter ever
The white version of "You know what i'm sayin?"
The Irishman is not a masterpiece when you consider this man has made casino, goodfellas, taxi driver, cape fear, in my opinion the Irishman doesn’t come close
Aka "you know what im sayin??"
@@DefeatLust id say Italian is more accurate than just white.
White people have lots of different cultures and speech patterns.
The Joker is the only comic book character Scorsese considered making a film about.
and thats HUGE thing man...
Wonder what scorsese thinks of batman?
Did you actually listen to the interview? He says that The Joker in this context ISN'T a comic book character and he fails to see how it could [successfully] become one because it is an abstraction and a character study.
@j mula no.
I saw Joker a couple of week ago. It is not a comic book film but a film about a psychopath as a clown. It was not an easy watch.
People need to stop crying about this guys opinion. What he’s saying is 100% true. Yes, Marvel movies are cinema but they more so fit into the amusement park category. He isnt saying that’s necessarily bad either. Just compare Taxi Driver to Doctor Strange or something like that, 2 very different films, one allows you to shut your brain off for 2 hours, the other one challenges you for 2 hours. I think Scorsese’s point is completely fair.
asdaa sdsda sooo would you consider a comedy to be cinema?
coreydaprince yes because most comedy franchises barely have enough material to span a trilogy much less 20+ continuous movies.
asdaa sdsda ??? Umm I fail to see you point with that reply
coreydaprince he doesn’t have a point
cryotek22 exactly
Scorsese talks like a tired yet passionate high school teacher.
Passionate AND high
Mr.Hand from Fast Times at Ridgemont High
underrated comment 100% agree
His Joker is Taxi Driver. Done.
What
Oh damn,your right.👍
Yes
Its king of comedy
@@apictureoffunction he’s answering the question “why didn’t Marty direct the joker”
Man his eyebrows cut straight to the top at 0:05 lol
Looked like stop motion
Speed 0.25 and its still super fast 😂
Mythbusters should do some speed calculations here
Lmao
Hahahahahaha
Holy **** they actually did.
He’s not criticizing Marvel. He’s just concerned that spectacle/entertainment is becoming a main priority for audiences at the expense of all other forms of cinema.
Not even that. He is just worried (correctly so) that "superhero" movies are taking over the cinemas leaving no room for any other sort of art/movies to be shown.
@@dakapo8985which holds true especially now
blockbuster term was long before MCU turned tables
@@MrVoland44 Its not blockbusters or that they become big movies by their own thats the problem.
Its the big franshice movies that are all homogeneous/the same on an artistic and creative level.
@@dakapo8985 Yes, I think that when Scorsese talks about "comic book characters" and "superhero movies", what he is really referring to is what I would call "IP milking", which completely dominates the business these days and where superhero movies are both the most successful and most aggressive ones with their unlimited number of movies, series and "phases".
Blockbusters also existed in the 80s and 90s, but at least they were for the most part original creations at that time and not lazy attempts to milk existing IPs to the death.
Again, y’all think the creator of Raging Bull and Taxi Driver is going to enjoy Avengers? Lol
LOL a bunch of cute dudes in tight suits
@@juancpgo well Tarantino likes the MCU
@@senseyy8959 Tarantino is a geek. Also he's considerably younger than the other Hollywood Brat filmmakers and his films are not too serious themselves.
@@argelisplanchart9438Scorsese doesn't make serious films he just makes films, especially the latest ones are the most funny
😂😁
Anyone who doesn't think Scorsese is right, should ask Edgar Wright if Marvel let him flex his artistic muscles.
Marvel Movies are formulaic by necessity because they are part of one big cinematic universe, which has to be coherent. Superhero movies, including big budget superhero movies with explosions and fight scenes can still be cinema. Instead of asking Edgar Wright why not ask Christopher Nolan if the Dark Knight Trilogy flexed his creative muscles? You might get a different answer.
@@elliotlucas8497 Scorsese directly attacked Disney/Marvel. Where can I buy the latest Marvel issue of Batman comic books?
"I wanted to make a Marvel movie, but I don't think they really wanted to make an Edgar Wright movie." - Edgar Wright.
I mean - I like how your defense is "of course they're cookie cutter, they come off an assembly line" like yeah, that's exactly what's being criticized here, genius.
@@futurestoryteller Well said, you follow?
@@futurestoryteller Nice strawman you have there.
This guy is clearly NOT talking from emotion, purely from reason. Every single word he said is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY LOGICAL. Hats off to him.
We can learn a lot from how he thinks and speaks.
I agree . 👍
LOL,no
futurestoryteller triggered
You don't have to announce when you're triggered.
Marty talks faster the more he ages
YES!! PETER YOU CAN SEE , AND TELL HE'S A PURE NATIVE NEW YORKER. NATIVE YORKER'S HAVE A TENSE TO SPEAK FAST . IT'S JUST OUR WAY OF EXPRESSING OURSELVES IN THE BIG APPLE 🍎 AND THEIR IS NOT A THING WRONG WITH THAT.👍 LIKE SPRINGSTEEN SING 'S 🎶🎵🎶🎵🎵🎵🎶 BORN IN THE U.S.A. 🎶🎵🎶🎵 WE TALK FAST, AND WALK FAST , AND WE CAN TELL YOUR ASS - OFF IN A MINUTE. 😆 😁😃 DON'T YOU LIKE HIS NEW YORK ACCENT??? HE IS GETTING MAGNIFICENTLY BETTER, AND BETTER WITH AGE . AND AM SURE MRS. SCORSESE IS VERY PROUD OF HER NATIVE NEW YORKER.🌹 TOO. BUT DON'T GET ME WRONG . MR.SCORSESE IS A WELL SOFT SPOKEN AND A CREATIVE AMERICAN ITALIAN. WELL , BEST WISHES AND THANKS FOR SHAREING HONEY 🌹 FROM A BROOKLYN NATIVE NEW YORKER .🍕 🍕
Haha, you clearly haven't seen him on coke
So does Tarantino lol
START SPREADING 😀 THE NEW'S !! 🎵🎵🎶 I AM LEAVING TODAY🍎 I WANT TO BE A PART OF IT🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵 NEW YORK, NEW YORK🎶🎶🎵🎶🎵 LOVE THIS SONG!!
Lmfao stop calling him Marty just because thats what actors who know him personally call him in interviews you lonely loser
Scorsese: you follow?
Tarantino: alright?
Paul Thomas Anderson: ummmm?
Tarantino: Nigga you Get it ?
Di Caprio: Mmhmm
Drug is bad...mmky?
Coppola: **sniffs**
He's absolutely right about superhero films.
No
not really
Nope
Yes
Mostly marvel stuff yes
He is moving so incredible for 76. Just can't believe how well this dude's mind and body have aged
I love that even though Scorsese received some heat from his comments, he still stands by them, repeats them, and is unapologetic.
He has no reason to change.
as he should be
Because he is not paid for that, he believes in it.
I love how everyone continues to misunderstand him too. He's not saying "Superhero movies bad, you're only allowed to enjoy Tarkovsky and Bergman", he's saying it doesn't fit into his well established idea of what cinema is. It's a movie, but it's not cinema as he knows it. He's obviously not invested in it, but it's not like he denies there is some value in it, or that creative people work on it.
@@Solaire_of_Astora13 Relax man, we too are not saying Superhero genre is bad. It's like he said that as he says ‘Amusement Park Movies’ are not true cinema. He never said that Superheroes movie should never exist and so does we.
The reversed stereo really confuses me here.
XD
I'm so glad I'm not the only person on the planet who notices that!
turn back your headphones folks
Headphones makes it even worse.
Sound editor had his headphones on the wrong way round
True
I always knew this man wasn't down talking the comic genre. He only expressed that it's a different form of art and is not for him. Fair enough. I never understood how triggered people got by taking what he said out of context
Damn is so pleasant to hear someone so sensible and knowledgeable on the film industry
Great name
Video is almost 3 minutes but feels like 1 minute. Scorsese has the talent, to put so much depth and insight into his comments and yet it never feels boring. A master.
0:05 that eyebrow movement.
Omg it looks like it cuts
Yes lol, that was prompt
This guy is godlike with film making
j mula do you have any content ?
legendary
He didn’t say that he hates superhero films but he’s right when saying they’re theme parks and he also acknowledges they’re a form of art but a different part, some people twist his statement way too much
Thank you Marty, for making films for Non-disney fans. We will always love you.
@buddhasadvocate7238 scorcese fans probably enjoy the GOOD disney films. Disney hasn't made a film on par with it's good films for decades. Only Disney adults believe the new ones are worth jack. It's all soulless remakes and cashgrabs. Also did you seriously just list the scorcese films about gangsters like those are his only films? seriously, After Hours? raging bull? Last Temptation of Christ? Taxi Driver?
Expand your own filmography before you talk that shit
This is why we got both The Joker and The Irishman. Absolute win.
And once a upon time of Hollywood
@Willy Gold Forrest Because it doesn't have non stop exposition & explosions? Stick to your Marvel crap.
Parasite was and is (imo) still better than both movies that year.
Goddamit, he is so right with the line "they have to give something back to the culture".
Gallagher brothers: D'you know what I mean?
Scorsese: You follow?
Tarantino: A'right?
Would you imagine a Joker sequel with Scorsese fully involved? add that to Joaquin Phoenix genius and that will change the comic book cinema forever!
but the thing is, Joker is not really a comic book movie, it stands alone. The name "Joker" is there just to attract capeshit-plebs to watch it, the movie doesn't need the connection to the batman lore to work, and probably the parts about that movie that don't work are the parts with connect it to batman such as the cringey bruce wayne scene that had no meaning whatsoever to the the film as a whole
@@alterego5007 it is a comic book movie. Just not like the ones we are familiar with. Because at the final act, the person you saw on screen wasn't Arthur Fleck. It was Joker. DC has a lot of good characters and stories. They need to make this types of movie.
Alter Ego comic book movies aren’t marvel movies, marvel movies are comic book movies
@j mula I didn't understand your point.
@@alterego5007 It is a comic book movie, dumbass. By that logic, all of the MCU are not comic book movies since none of them are comic book accurate😂
I have so much respect for this man. A true living legend.
I love the way he talks and explains things. He'd make a good teacher.
No one:
Scorsese: "you follow?"
Shut the fuck up
@@bigol9223 you follow?
His voice is soooooo relaxing i can listen to him giving speachs and telling storys like allday wow
He’s like fine wine, ages so well and sharp. Plus, he’s absolutely right about Marvel.
When the most “cinema” superhero film is a copy of two of Scorsese’s films, his thesis might be right.
Couldn't stand Joker. It's a shameless rip off of Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy. Grossly overrated film
Tbf, there have been superhero films that stray from this formula. Logan and The Dark Knight immediately come to mind
@@struanmurray2291 joker is barely anything like taxi driver, just because the main character is mentally unstable? Okay dude
@@jpeg204 lol have you even seen Taxi Driver? Come back once you've watched it then tell me it's nothing like it
@@jpeg204 both explore very similar themes in similar ways and even the director recognized it as a direct influence. If you can't tell how, then I don't know what to tell you...
Man what would we do without scorsese? I think if it wasn't for him this movie wouldn't existed. Taxi Driver and the King of Comedy were inspirations for this movie.
I hope to meet him one day. He's inspired me to write scripts. I will always love and admire Scorsese.
This guy hit his magnum opus as the puffer fish in a sharks tale
My left ear enjoyed hearing Scorsese talk
he’s kind of right, you may disagree but there are a lot of directors out there who want to put their amazing films in theaters but unfortunately many superhero movies (and other franchises) take that away. I love marvel films but there are so much more grounded films that deserve to be watched.
No they aren't. Comic book movies make up maybe 3 percent of all movies in any given year. The VAST majority of movies released are not comic book movies.
givemedepussie pliss are you on crack? look at Endgame
@@gleekthemonkey4570 and look at the amount of money comic book films make compared to actually really good movies .
@The Abcool he's talking about "number of comic books released compared to other non-comic movies"
He wasn't talking about the money . And that's where he's wrong . Sure comic book films release less than non-comic book films but amount of money they make are huge .
Not only that but due to this , their marketing are huge as well which results in media showcasing these movies more compared to actual art movies . And so these art movies don't get enough support from audiences .
@@darkseid856 Ahh. But that's not the fault of comic book movies. People are going to like what they like. And many people who go to see comic book movies do think that they are good movies.
Sometimes you listen to classical music and sometimes you listen to rock and roll. Both are good in their own ways. The same idea can be applied to movies.
Mh... I prefer this comparison for movies: Cinema is like reading litterature, whereas marvel or superhero movies is like reading thriller books, or big book series wich are meant for entertainment. We can acknowledge that litterature isn't the most fun to read, yet it leaves a huge print on you and has a huge influence in the world. Reading Percy jackson is entertaining,... then... next, I'll read another one, then another, then another. Not a big deal. But oh man "la recherche" by Marcel Proust was painful to read but it changed my life, it's just another world. So is cinema.
cheers!
@@yansterckx2206 Great thoughts. Fully agree with you. We're lucky to have the options in the first place.
I agree with @Yan Sterckx, it's not a comparison of genre, it's a comparison of quality
I light up when I see Martin talk. There's not a single person in the world who is as passionate about anything as he is about cinematography. I wish I had a fraction of his enthusiasm, I don't need anything else - and he's is gifted beyond reason with so much more.
Martin “you follow” scorcesse
This gentleman is an ICON , a LEGEND , he done so much classics that is very accurate to say that he is a TOP 5 Directors of All Time....👑✊👏👏👏👏
He made Joker it’s called The king of comedy
Mixed with a flavour of Taxi Driver
Man I'm a huge comic book movie fan....but it's Martin Scorsese..he can say whatever he wants. That guy has my respect. I grew up watching his movies. A true legend.
Interviewer: Yeah
Scorsese: It's not easy. I know you may think I'm pretty sick or something. You think I'm sick?! I bet you really think I'm sick. You think I'm sick?! *Chuckles*
Its funny people are getting mad about what hes saying as if Disney doesn't have like 80 avengers rides
If you made Taxi Driver you dont gain anything from making The Joker. If he could have told the story in a more creative way, he probably would have done it. But youre talking about a character the whole world knows and had an opinion on and then its just so damn dark. I dont think he wanted to revisit that sort of story especially since every other day we get to see the story on the news "crazy, disturbed, misunderstood, bored person walks into a school, church, mall, store with a weapon and empties it."
The should make a Goodfellas theme park in Brooklyn.
I grew up on Martins movies and still love them...I also grew up on superheroes and love seeing them on the big screen as an adult...people are entitled to their opinions
I think The Dark Knight is more than just a comic book movie, it’s just good cinema. That film, in my opinion, should be considered among the greatest of all time.
I think he’s speaking specifically about the current MCU and DC films. Not as much standalone films back then.
It is considered that according to IMDB
Watch more movies
The Dark Knight is beyond overrated
@@Ye_B0ibud your profile pic is blade runner ryan gosling don’t act like you are so cultured lmao
Martin Scorsese saying 'you follow' reminds me of Robert Shaw in The Sting.
Listening to Marty speak makes me check the video speed every time
when ben shapiro get old his voice probably sounds like marty
Martin “You Follow” Scorsese.
Trust me... Taxi Driver would go like a 50 , 60 , 70 or even a 100th anniversay , and people would still watch it and studying it
Basically he is a old timer who doesn't want cgi,superhumans,godzilla type sh*t he wants normal movies based with society problems,love emotions nothing crazy with the new technology just basic people and interestingly stories,scary like goodfellas and sad like taxi driver ect.I love that style more and I'm rlly sad when he will be gone and it will a huge gap in film making
Well said
He should've played George Costanza's boss Steinbrenner. : D
That would've been better than his oscar winning role in Shark Tale
Martin Scorsese has a point. I mean I love Superhero Movies but I also love movies in general and Martin has a valid point about it.
I love this guy so much. Incredible director
" When people say they're concerned, they're desperate."
- Frank Sheeran, The Irishman
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I really would like for him to adapt The Dark Knight Returns. I know it's not gonna happen, but it'd fit his style so perfectly.
Master Scorsese sounds perfectly at 0.75x speed
I just love how they talk to each of my ears
I don't think his issue is with the comics themselves but rather the creative freedom the studio allows with the comic book movies.
Omg people need to LET IT GO!!! Martin is a LEGEND! Period. Why is this still being asked? The whole Marvel thing?
Martin Scorsese I love his movies I have watched them over a 100times. And I cant wait to see the Irishman
There should be a theatre chain purely for grown ups
The interviewer looks like a younger Scorsese
Bro, that guy on the right is Martin Scorsese
MCU = Popcorn movies, just for entertainment. Not Cinematic.
Hes right, accept the truth, MCu fan
I forget the part where Kevin Feige is aiming at a deeper level of film making...
Ok boomer
Joker is Dc
MCU = Marvel Cinematic Universe ,
PokerPickles angry child. Keep spouting memeshit
He reminds me of Mike Wazowski the way he talks and stuff.
This is the first time I’ve heard his voice and it is waaaaaaayyy different to what I thought. He hardly sounds old at all
he said some very insightful things and things that make you think. brilliant
I don't understand why people got so mad about what he said. Right here he said superhero films are clearly not for me and they just need to make some room for smaller movies in the theaters. It makes complete sense to me.
The fact that Oscar winning directors and Oscar caliber actors want/expressed in being attached the a joker property says a lot about the character of joker.
The left and right audio channels are switched.
I could listen to mr Scorsese talk all day
Yes Martin, I follow.
Love Marty❤❤
Man Scorsese has such a way of describing icons and entertainment
''Legendary Filmmaker'''
I'm CBM lover but respect the legend. he has point he wants Art house movies to also do well.
and people have to support those movie as well.
People will watch what they want to watch and art house movies are still being made. They don't have to make a billion dollars to be successful.
@@gleekthemonkey4570 not really . Look at the number of trash movies made . (mostly from Disney obviously) . and compare it to the number movies that can be actually be considered as real ART .
@@darkseid856 Marvel movies are art.
Some suggestions to points above: Netflix was the only studio willing to back this movie. Also, filmgoers should read up on monopoly power in movie theater chains and the film industry. You can't break through to audiences today unless you are a comic book movie. Theater chains prioritize the opening weekend. Not because we prefer comic books over others, its that most theaters have no [financial] incentive to show them. They make quicker bucks on opening weekend vs let's say an original property in the 80s like Back to the Future which took like 2 months floating in theaters before it took off word of mouth. The studios, in turn, respond to this by making movies that can break through, hit that opening weekend total which is a sign in our culture now of a "good movie." They're bet is on "brand" movies. Do you see Marty's beef here? Weird original daring movies dont stand a chance, not like the 70s were studios gave more leeway to the new generation of filmmakers to experiment and fill theaters. It wasnt all great but looking back now it was a gold rush of classic cinema. Audiences today dont have those options. We are shaped to like what's there, because the gatekeepers decide what's there, and the gatekeepers now are not film buffs or snobs like Scorcese but CEOs in corporate monopolies.
@@gleekthemonkey4570 But that's just his thoughts.
The thing is that Scorsese’s movies are like novels and big books, while marvel and DC movies are like... well comic books. Both entertaining, just on different ways
Well said.
Well u need to read Allen Moore work
@@fakeextrovert2240 Alan Moore books are on a different level dude
Entertainment vs art
@@thepillowhead2453 "Alan Moore books are on a different level dude"
They are still comic books, dummy. The name "comic books" has no bearing on its quality. There are good comic books and bad comic books just like everything else.
'' regrets... I've had a few''
Its kind of hard to believe how damn good this guy is at story telling.
Living legend!!! keep making your passions Scorsese .
It’s funny how Joker is heavly inspired by Martin Scorsese movies.
OT S yes
This guy just made a masterpiece in the irishman so will everyone shut up about marvel
Good. I honestly needed this movie to be just as it was. And no different. It was amazing.
He made that film it was the underrated king of comedy
Ppl should stop characterizing his comments as “dismissive.” Scorsese never called them “theme marks” as to say that those movies are bad. The point was that they’re different from films that he and his contemporaries make.
Since he isn't saying that, I'll go ahead and say it for him. Anyone over the age of 12 who contributes to the Marvel universe in any way, shape, or form is a pathetic man-baby and a scourge on civilized society as a whole.
Ya follow?
Wait isn't Disney doing this with making their theme park rides movies? The Jungle Cruise movie looks like an abomination.
That's how Pirates of the Caribbean happened. It was a ride that was turned into a movie and then a franchise
@@falkofscrum Then the franchise crashed and burned
I'm gonna watch jungle cruise
That’s all Pirates was, but it also had a first entry that still stands as one of my favorite adventure films of all time. But yeah, Jungle Cruise doesn’t have Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, Kiera Knightly, Or Geoffrey Rush, and The Rock doesn’t exactly bring that acting caliber. Emily Blunt definitely has that kind of talent, but from the trailer, Jungle Cruise doesn’t seem to be featuring it.
What are you even saying ?
Ya true , we are still there to see his movies in theatres, consider us too. I love both types to watch in theatres.
martin would of actually made the second half a gangster film of the joker climbing to the top of Gotham, i can feel it
expected old man voice got young joe peschi
This is what happens when a major author has to live through general and fluxing fading away of their project.
Sounds like a smart person expressing an opinion in a rational way. he isnt condemning the genre, he isnt dismissing its value, he is just explaining his reasoning for his viewpoints. the rest of society should try it sometime.
Both my ears individually loved this video
I do get his point, and I did think that element took away from the Joker experience. Because when watching Joker you think there is no way this ends well for Arthut. In ANY other movie, he would've died at the end. Maybe as a "hero", maybe as an icon, but he would've died. But... while watching Joker I had in the back of my head that... well... this has to end with him somehow turning in the clown prince of crime, the apparently immortal enemy of the Batman who is still at the very least 10 15 years away from even existing. So... yeah. I do understand his point about having a fantastical script about an amazing character that ultimately has to turn into a comic book character. I get it.
Theme park ride is a good term for those movies. Remove the special effects and what are you left with, men in tights with bad puns.
Lol what? You could use that logic for ANY high budget film
@@efancording6363 No some of them would be good even without special effects.
@@DanIel-fl1vc what about Godzilla or avatar
And good acting
There are some great actors in mcu...and great scripts most of the time...it's not just a no brainer...you need some IQ to watch Mcu films...they are not like trashy comedy popcorn flicks that come out every friday
And his Joker would have been Robert De Niro of course.
"De-aged" DeNiro
Not enough people talk about Mean Streets, King of Comedy, and Cape Fear. That's now something i can eat popcorn with.