Quentin Tarantino on What Makes ‘Dunkirk’ a Masterpiece | The Rewatchables | The Ringer
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- ‘The Rewatchables’ podcast is joined by very special guest Quentin Tarantino to discuss Christopher Nolan’s 2017 war film, ‘Dunkirk,’ and what makes it an underappreciated masterpiece.
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Movies like Dunkirk are shot so well you can almost smell the air
Movies like Dunkirk make me realise I can hold my breath for almost two hours straight
1917 was a better film
@@MrDavidPartida 71 was good too
Mic Chael Totally !!
It’s the air raids that got me. Really felt those airplane engines.
Now I wanna hear Nolan pick a Tarantino film and nerd out over it
Check out the interview Nolan did with Tarantino where they discuss Hateful 8!
I suppose Pulp Fiction had a lot of effect on him. Given his penchant for non-linear storytelling. I read somewhere that PF inspired him to do Memento.
@RodzillaWrong. Nolan relies entirely too much on exposition for any of his characters to feel real and not like a screenwriter dictating the plot to the audience. Not to say he's not talented, but Quentin breathes life into his scripts in a way that Nolan could only dream of. Sorry brah :)
@@jtsleazeball2548It's both. Nolan can't do what QT does, but also QT can't do what Nolan does. Saying that one should drop what makes them special in order to be like the other one is how Hollywood got into this mess where everyone is copying Marvel. Let two artists just do their thing without saying the other needs to do what the other can.
@Rodzilla hahah dude go watch fast and furious think its right up your alley.
I like the way Dunkirk portrays the bravery of ordinary people living through extraordinary experiences. These men were our grandfathers.
it's like all hollywood movies "based on a true story". It has nothing to do with reality
Indeed both my grandfathers fought in WW2. My fathers father had his leg shot off at Saipan during the biggest Banzai Charge of the war. He manned a heavy machine gun and had to kill many Japanese before they finally shot his leg off. He had to feign death for what must have seemed like an eternity while the US gained control of the situation again. He was a draftee for the 27th Infantry Division. He never talked about the war I only know his stories via my father. He passed away when I was 16 years old and left behind 7 kids and 8 grandchildren.
@@jamespatagueule4599 It's movie version of what happened, operation dynamo was an actual event ,hundreds of small boats aided the evacuation of troops from Dunkirk, it's a film so its always going to be a dramatisation
@@fletcherlewis ok it's a true story.... and Marvel films are true stories too from Hollywood
@@jamespatagueule4599 Marvel films are based on comics
I remember I watched Dunkirk at the last show of the day in an empty theater. What I loved the most about it was the fact that the movie never lets you pause and breathe. It just keeps moving and moving and moving until the very last 5 minutes. The characters are always in a rush. Almost no movies do that today.
YES....sweaty palms, clenched fists, edge of the seat suspense almost the entire movie.....and without the usual blood and gore in your average war film.
Aliens comes to mind as a classic of this type. Also 1917, another recent war film.
@@lb6135 was about to say 1917. Just non stop from the get go. Apocalypto does it aswel.
@@Ryan-lf1ko The same with Aliens too. I remember Roger Ebert saying he just didn't know how to review it!
@@Ryan-lf1ko I love Apocalypto too btw!!!
Really nice to hear Tarantino admiring another director’s work. Especially one as recent as this. I want to hear more about what he thinks about Nolan and others.
He and Nolan did a whole interview together
He does that all the time. He did it with "There will be blood" and others.
Tarantino gushes over all kinds of crap.
@@wayne909 QT is very good friends with a lot of his fellow directors with Nolan, Paul Thomas Anderson and Robert Rodriguez.
@@joemckim1183 yup, I am very aware
The best part of the film is that we never really see the enemy. Even when they are near by shooting. It adds a horror film element.
It adds REALITY to the movie.
But that's war. 90 percent of the time your shooting where you think the enemy is. You rarely actually see them. Even in urban/city combat. You don't want to be seen.
To be seen is to be dead
That's an interesting point.
Yes and I also love how nobody has a personality and there’s no blood after people get shot. Really leaves it up to the viewer’s imagination like a true artist.
That's definitely not the best part lol, that just adds to it
The part that impressed me the most was the sound. In particular how Nolan reinvented the sound of the Stuka's dive. A lot of people criticized it and we're like "That's not how the Stuka sounded". However, the siren's wail has been used so many times in film to represent a plane falling and crashing, film goers have been desensitised to it. Nolan changed it up because I think he wanted to recreate the feeling of hearing that sound for the first time and the numbing terror it inspired.
that's just incredible. need to rewatch for that Stuka sound
The part of the movie that stayed with me is how he showed how those people died on the ship slowly. It's haunting and sad, you can see the desperation on their eyes, and it's so horrific thinking how it feels to be there and Nolan made you felt that
Funny I thought it was boring as shit.
@@bobbyraejohnson You got a screwed up take on funny, bud.
@@bobbyraejohnson wow. Someones out to get a reaction only. 🤫😴
@@sinbin001 Ahhh, you gave it to them though! Let's all leave the TH-cam comment section :)
@@Majigitajog ok bye🍻🍻
Dunkirk was a atmosphere soaked, 90 min. anxiety attack and it was glorious.
I fell asleep through it. So exited to see it only to be disappointed. Which I find funny since a movie like a quiet place with barely any words spoken kept me on the edge of the seat
@Pat Fry I didn't enjoy uncut gems. I got annoyed at Adam Sandler's over the top performance, don't get me wrong it was a good performance but he was yelling and dropping f bombs the whole movie. It got boring pretty quick
Nah, sorry. I never felt anything.
And I usually do, watching war movies.
@@notxvexorr4379 The entire point is being over the top; everything about his character's life is completely over the top, he absolutely nailed that the role, I suspect because he knows people leading similar lives himself.
Dunkirk is such a dud.
Christopher Nolan doesn't have an apex mountain, he has a whole damn range.
Exactly
MrQ000000 mountain ranges still have an apex
these aren't mountains they're waves
@@whowantslasagna4894 LOL
And that peak just goes upwards..
He mentions elsewhere that the film changed in his mind when he saw a London audience crying when the civilian boats arrived on the rescue mission. Incredible scene.
Something that must be understood about Dunkirk is it’s told like a memory of an experience from each persons perspective. You forget most of what people said in your memories, just vivid pictures and scenes, strong emotions, not many extra sounds, they feel like they’re being relived through rose colored glasses in a way.
Interesting, is this just your read of it? Or is this something Nolan himself or others involved with the production have shared?
Nolan explained, while talking about Dunkirk, that movies are meant to make you feel and experience something, not necessarily retell the story completely accurately. So some people had been telling him that the closing scene where the Spitfire, out of fuel, out dives and shoots down the German dive bomber was not possible.
So to answer your question: Yes, it was sort of it was intentional by Nolan for this to be “like a memory”, although that’s because he more explicitly intended the movie as an experience of (his understanding of) Dunkirk. As in memories, you typically remember experiential things like fears, emotions, last minute saves, visceral moments, tragedies instead of exact dates, details of conversations, reasons you did/didn’t do something, exact times, etc.
The movie is worth rewatching with this knowledge, if it sparks and thoughts/excitement that is.
I’m an engineer and so used to appreciate “exactness”. Now I can appreciate exaggeration or creative liberty in stories, as it’s often a teller’s way to make you understand what it felt like.
@stevebean1234 The book "The Things They Carried" discusses this. How a real war story, with all the details exact, would not communicate the experience of being there. By exaggerating certain details, it becomes truer, more accurate, even when the details are no longer "correct."
@@gaviomenyep! i read "The Things They Carried" relatively recently, a couple years ago. I tweaked my explanation to mirror the book's a bit more because it makes a much more clear/explicit point; although, Chris Nolan had his own similar explanation for the movie. I just rewatched Dunkirk and it is really amazing how little dialog there is and how much is explained via 'experience' - little things like tapping the altimeter etc.
And the dive bomber scene.... what a great case study. No way the Spitfire could have turned around and shot the plane down; but again, it could have been a plot device. You see the Spitfire gliding past with no power the scene before the Junkers dives at the mole. If he still had gas and power going full throttle, you probably never would have felt the suspense of the Navy CAPT as he closed his eyes ready to die... and the release of the plane getting shot down.
That scene alone is good "exaggeration" per the things they carried.
PS if you're interested in Vietnam books, I highly recommend Matterhorn by Karl Marlantes. The audiobook is actually fantastic, he has good narrators.
@@gaviomen Love that
It's cool when director's compliment other filmmaker's movies.
Tarantino said he’s going to write some film criticism books after he retires from film
Poser-wanktrash is what comes to mind. (That aside, you make absolutely no point, as there is nothing special to it, except from a poser wanktrash point of view, where no-one can concede anything to a "competing" director and any other director must be crushed with one's dumb poser's ego, but also to posturingly elevate some director, as an exception, which one thinks will benefit one's own poser's ego.)
why?
BFKC Funny that you’re accusing others of “poser wanktrash” when your comment is the embodiment of pretentiousness
We meet at last panda! Glad ur not calling yourself a bear or id have to gruffle u
That final oil sequence where the music crescendos and the three different timelines finally converge together is like what pure cinema feels like. It literally why I go to the movies.
You know it has happened but then you also realise, "Daaaaamn, that's so well put together".
Dunkirk is such a dud.
I`ve seen it in IMAX ... the sound and the visuals make this movie a real cinema experience that i almost forgot about in recent years
@@justthink5854 I thought so on first watch too, but after watching it again, I thought it was truly a masterpiece. Much like Inception and Interstellar and even The Prestige, it can be hard to follow along with whats happening. But when you do, and you see it all come together. O boy it is a treat.
@@justthink5854 incredible analysis
In addition to everything else being said, the Sound, not necessarily the soundtrack, the Sounds of the movie is phenomenal. The planes, the small boat engine, the gunfire, the explosions, the natural sounds
I rewatched Dunkirk over 7 times. They had a veteran from the war that as there and he said watching that made him feel like he was actually back in France that day, that’s how well this was produced. It’s not often you can rewatch a newly made film these days. This movie deserved a golden globe.
You must have fallen asleep the first 6 times
@@arno-31 No quite the contrary peon. I enjoyed this film so much I saw it 7 times. I saw joker 35 times.
I recall something similar being said about saving private Ryan
*Dunkirk,* a film criticised by many to be lacking in focus, dialogue and character. And then there's Quentin Tarantino, a filmmaking master at all three, says that this is Christopher Nolan's best work. Really shows that perspective DOES matter.
Tarantino is my favorite director, but I don't always share his taste in movies. The story is the most important thing for me. Dunkirk was a little lacking IMHO. I totally get why others loved it though.
@@UserNameAnonymous If a plot of a film is the most important to you its understandable why you do not like Dunkirk. The movie was about the event itself rather than characters.
@@rainfall2880 Thank you. Why people so stupid to understand that????
He wasn’t really talking about dialogue . He was praising him on his camera angles and how he tells his story with the shots he takes
I literally have no idea where you people are finding this criticism.
Damn I want to see his top 10 list of the decade.
Sammy Belskus Saaame man
Same man
Can't wait either
I want to see what wildcards he throws in. Theres always 1 or 2 that leave people going 'huh?'. Got to love his disregard for whats cool to like or not.
unstoppable is another movie on his list
I can't comprehend the pressure involved in making a movie like Dunkirk. Directors of big-budget Hollywood movies must have project management skills of the very highest order.
I absolutely love this film. It's the utter lack of mawkish sentimentality, its restraint when it comes to anything remotely resembling patriotism and the way the heroes in this film don't get the usual Hollywood standing ovations every five minutes, that makes it *so incredibly* moving and impactful. The unsung hero is most often the one who punches the biggest hole in your chest and rips your heart out (in a beautiful way) - and Nolan does this again and again with his characters in Dunkirk.
They die and literally you don't give a fuck because why would you? It's an aimless movie with zero character development.
@@Themonist maybe saying that people die and you don’t care says more about you, your ability to empathise, and need to be pandered to than anything about the film.
Why nobody mention how great masterpiece “THE PRESTIGE” is ? I feel that movie is veeeeery underrated and its one of the best movie ever created
I love The Prestige. It's possibly Nolan's best movie, and he's made a lot of good ones. I would like to see Nolan and Hugh Jackman work together again at some point.
My favourite film. It’s perfect.
@@DRM-nb1fg The Theory (I made up,) is if Nolan doesn't reuse an actor he found his performance underwhelming or his offscreen presence was unsatisfactory.
The Prestige is, in my own opinion, Nolan's best film.
Silly movie
*Everyone* : "This movie is not Nolan's best work."
*Tarantino* : "It's his masterpiece."
I always thought it was Nolan's greatest work. Watching that movie, I was seeing Nolan walk closer to Kubrick. Never before Dunkirk, Nolan had a so strong, substantial visual narration. In an interview Nolan spoke about the power of a single image in a Kubrick's movie: "There is such an inherent calm and inherent trust of the one powerful image, that he makes me embarrassed with my own work". In Dunkirk he did what Kubrick did in his movies, maybe not with the same grandeur, with the same quality but...
@@nicoladc89 Couldn't have said it better myself. And i have noticed that Nolan's die hard fans wasn't very pleased with dunkirk. To me Dunkirk is his best work, it captures the dread of war in a way never before shown. And it easily grabs the spot of top 5 war movie ever made, give or take. The best war movie for me is apocalypse now, followed by Das Boot.
@@FabledGentleman Apocalypse Now is BY FAR the best war movie, probably because it's not a war movie (Is a movie in a war but not a war movie, when Coppola called Storaro for the cinematography of the movie, Storaro refused because he didn't want to make a war movie, but Coppola said him "Vincenzo, this is not a war movie, it's a movie about civilization").
It has 94/100 on Metacritic. Critically it's his best film
@@nicoladc89 I don't know. The first 'ending' they filmed for Apocalypse Now had Willard and Kurtz fighting side by side, shooting people with machine guns. Thank God that never made it to the big screen. But it's clearly a war movie, it just isn't a historical war movie exactly.
I have had the privilege of seeing Dunkirk at one of the few real Imax theaters format three times. It is hard to describe how good this movie looks and sounds in the large format.
In defence of *Saving Private Ryan* after the Omaha beach landings, there are many memorable shots in the second and third acts, such as these: The telegram being delivered to the mother (which is incredibly affecting, framing the homestead door and the view beyond), the death of T/4 Medic Irwin Wade (Giovanni Ribisi), the shot of the men at night with the flashes of artillery (or could be lightning) illuminating the distant horizon, and the sniper Jackson (Barry Pepper) in the bell-tower. If you're invested enough after the gruelling opening, this is a movie that really rewards multiple viewings, too.
Vinny d getting done in and shooting a tank with a 1911 are also pretty unforgettable parts
and the knife penetrating scene, that was haunting
The telegraph scene with the mother is one of the most affecting in cinema.
Yup savingprivate Ryan is a near perfection movie. I remember every part of it.
There are some other good shots in the movie, but to be honest none of them is comparable to the opening sequence... for the simple fact the opening sequence is the best one in the history of war cinema. So yeah understandable the rest of the film can't keep up
I love how Quentin is still a huge movie fan and watches new films
King Khari cause he’s just gunna stop liking movies ?
@@carlosnugent8919 a lot of directors and musicians become pretentious and won't praise or observe new work
King Khari not like Scorsese 🙄
@@ignaziobriones7566 lol scorcese was exactly who I was thinking of
"I love how Quentin is still a huge movie fan and watches new films
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I'd love it if he just stopped making films!
The sound in this movie is just amazing
To me, the intro is as scary and tense as any horror movie I’ve seen because of the sound
The noise of the bullets going through the fence in the beginning made me sh!te me pants when I was watching in an IMAX theatre. So damn LOUD!!!
Watching it in the theater the first time, when that first gunshot goes off when they get ambushed on the street. Thats when i knew for sure i was sitting in a nolan film. Nolan understands that sound is 60% of cinema, a combination of the mixing and the soundtrack/score. And for the most part i dont know of a movie where his sound isnt incredibly mixed and his scores arent perfect.
It was like in the Dark Knight, when bruce is testing the explosive rounds on the bricks. "I dont think you made it quite loud enough sir."
@@JerkyMurky I thought I was shotted for real in the very first instant. :)
i'm not really a fan of the mixing
Some films are beyond story telling,beyond character devolepment and dialogue,some films are just there to make u feel what is it like to be the guy potrayed in the film,and nolan nailed that in dunkirk.
I´m not a war movie buff by any means, however, I often find myself utterly in agreement w Nolan´s cinematic vision, so I knew to go see it. A stunning audiovisual masterpiece.
Nolan is an amazing filmmaker, I respect Tarantino for giving respect and acknowledging Nolan's talent.
Bro the fact that I see you everywhere makes me think you and I both have great taste
Cheers bud
Why are you everywhere?
@@dogandsquirrelslol8966 he is everywhere because we are everywhere.
@@mediy0 that makes me think of physics
Christopher always does that long tense music and I love it
Hans Zimmer
You mean Hans Zimmer, a lot of people don’t realize that the amazing soundtracks to Nolan’s movies is thanks to Hans, for those of you who don’t know Hans Zimmer has made the soundtrack to The Dark Knight Trilogy, Lion King, Inception, Interstellar, and even the game Modern Warfare 2
They employed an auditory illusion in the score; I forget what it's called but it can make it seem like it just keeps building to something and ramping up perpetually without ever getting there, when in reality it is a fairly steady rhythm.
@@thewizardofoz9837 The Last Samurai, such an atmospheric score!
@@Knight-Bishop à shepard tone
I enjoyed listening to the entire podcast yesterday and wasn't sure what the You Tube version would add but it was great to hear Quentin Tarantino being so enthusiastic about this film. My dad was a Dunkirk veteran and he actually did (in the end) swim out to a minesweeper HMS Hebe and he could have been that guy braving the waves shown in the clip here. He of course took off all his uniform and aside from his tin hat . All that wet woolen uniform would have drowned him. He was naked when he reached the ship. It had scrambling nets over the side but he hadn't eaten for days and it was a long cold swim. He was too weak to climb up and a sailor slipped down and physically carried him up. I had the privilege of having an e-mail conversation with one of the Petty Officers on HMS Hebe who was in his 90s a few years ago and thanked him for what they did for my dad.. They crossed the channel several times under constant air attack. Totally heroic. Like the French Guy in the film who was suspected of being a fifth columnist, my dad was arrested at Dover because he had no papers apart from his pay book that he had in his helmet and he had to wait for a relative to come and vouch for him. I would have loved my dad to have seen this film. The only thing that didn't ring true was the scene where the(hidden) Germans were taking pot shots at the fishing boat for target practice. I think it is highly unlikely that soldiers who had fought their way across France would be wasting precious ammunition when the German supply lines were badly overstretched. Great review .
Bro what's was Quentin's top 1 on the list that topped Dunkirk?
The villain isnt showed in the movie and yet it has a horror feeling
Which is something unique to show no political aspects I respect your opinion I think those who are saying it is dull or something mess actually they didn't understand it in a clear way thank u bro for clarification
"villain" is war
Most harrowing film I've ever seen.
but please stop having a manicheism vision of the world. some german families felt the same as the dude on the beach while they were getting bombed.
The villain was hiding out in Canada while he sent his country's boys off to fight a war. .
Watching Dunkirk in 70mm IMAX is still the best movie watching experience I've ever had.
1917
Aishik it was truly an incredible experience. Won't ever forget it.
I Liked The movie but I remember that it was an extremely stressful experience
Agreed. You really feel like you're there in the moment
SAME HOLY shit my sister did not like it because the gunshots were too loud and gave her anxiety but holy shit I loved that IMAX experience. We don't live anywhere near an IMAX so I begged my parents to drive for like, 2 hours so we can see the movie properly.
I'm surprised to see so many people disliked the movie, I remember being super impressed when I left the movie theater when I watched it, the sound was especially great.
Putting aside as incredibly great a director he is, Quentin is the best film critique of his generation 🙌🏼
I love that Quentin makes Top 10 lists just like every single one of us.
Bro he said Dunkirk is no.2 of the decade, what's his top1?
@@pradulkumar6473 I think it's Social Network
@@pradulkumar6473 Must be The Social Network. And I wouldn't argue with that. That movie is phenomenal.
To me Interstellar was Nolan's masterpiece, it blew me away the first time I saw it.
That Other Guy I watched it with my daughter. It is a great movie, but extra touching for me, watching it with my young daughter.
@Tiredofdumbfuks 1. Interstellar is the total opposite of 2001, this two movie tell almost the same story - the human evolution due the progress of the intelligence - but in two opposite way (Nolan in Interstellar turn like a socks all the sci-fi made after 2001, renovates it, bring it in the third millennium). HAL vs TARS, the monolite vs the science, a future scientific super-advanced humanity vs a spatial fetus, phisics vs metaphisics. Even the Deus ex Machina is "scientific" in this movie.
2. Interstellar is probably the most logical sci-fi movie ever made. It's greatest sci-fi than 2001, a worst movie than it (but, ehy, 2001 is probably the greatest, biggest, fat, colossal masterpiece of all time), but a better sci-fi.
@Tiredofdumbfuks 1. Cooper is an engineer, so he's like a 5 yrs old child in phisics. Anyway, that dialog is totally logic, not so much people know that a Wormhole probably is a sphere. Nobody have ever seen a wormhole.
2. Space travels are not cars travels
3. Mann went crazy. "Please don't judge me, Cooper. You were nerver tested like I was...". He was coward and selfish, the best combo to embark on a journey guided by an obsession, by the belief of being infallible, which leads to destruction. There's not illogical stuff in Dr. Mann representation.
The funny thing is that you complain because Nolan explains the wormhole like a 5 yrs old something that very few people could know, but you don't understand when he doesn't explain like a 5 yrs old something so easy to understand, something represented in hundreds of movies and books.
Anyway yours is only details for finicky, pedantic people (in Italy we say "cagacazzi") in comparison to the majesty of the whole movie. In almost every other sci-fi movie there are gigantic bullshit in the core itself of the story.
For you Dr Mann is a big illogicity, but the machines that fight the humanity and humanity that obscured the sun to defeat them is logic. Go crazy because you are alone in a far planet to die is illogic but build machine without a damn switch is logic. Explain to an engineer why a wormhole is a sphere and not a hole is illogic, travel through the time with a DeLorean or a woman who doesn't recognizes the boy she met less than 30 years ago is logic.
For the explaination why Cooper survived at the black hole, please call the Nobel Prize for Phisics Kip Thorne (gentle singularity in BKL black holes or something like that). It's possible? Maybe. It's impossible? We don't know. Travel back to the time is impossible, survive to a black hole... maybe yes, maybe no, we don't know. Inside that gray area lives the sci-fi, out of that gray area it's only reality or pure fantasy.
And Nolan did a superb work.
@Tiredofdumbfuks 1. Yes, they study physics for idiots.
***Physicist vs Engineers jokes***
My English is bad? Yes, this is the only right thing you said.
Facciamo che scrivo in italiano così te lo accolli te lo sbattimento di tradurre e io posso digitare con il correttore.
2. I viaggi spaziali non sono viaggi automobilistici. Non è argomentato perché non serve argomentarlo, dovresti arrivarci da solo. Non possono mettersi a girovagare per lo spazio controllando pianeta per pianeta partendo dal più vicino (che poi manco sai qual è il più vicino, non sai dove sbuca il wormhole, non sai dove si trovano i pianeti in quel momento, e comunque fosse stato un viaggio al contrario il pianeta più vicino sarebbe stato Saturno). Vanno sul pianeta da cui arrivano i dati migliori, quello che si è scelto il tizio che credevano fosse il migliore di tutti perché il più papabile.
3. Un tizio che decide di partire per una missione presumibilmente suicida, che convince altri tizi a fare lo stesso, sapendo che andranno tutti o quasi tutti incontro alla morte. Un tizio che prima fa questo e poi sceglie per sé il pianeta più promettente, con l'idea di salvare sé stesso e lasciare morire gli altri, tutti gli altri visto che l'idea di salvare i terrestri era già stata bocciata e di diventare l'iniziatore di una nuova umanità. Un tizio che poi arriva sul suo pianeta e scopre che in realtà non è abitabile e quindi decide di falsificare i dati e poi di mettersi a dormire non sapendo se si risveglierà mai. Un tizio che poi decide di uccidere uno dei suoi salvatori, di lasciare su un pianeta invivibile gli altri a morire ecc... Se questo per te non è un folle, mi preoccupa la tua idea di normalità.
Infine, Kip Thorne spiega perché non è una idea totalmente ridicola il fatto che qualcuno possa sopravvivere all'oltrepassamento dell'orizzonte degli eventi di un buco nero come Gargantua. Il tutto condito dall'intervento di qualcuno tecnologicamente avanzatissimo che ha costruito in tesseratto.
Quindi non ci sono illogicità. E anche ci fossero sarebbero solo piccoli dettagli per saccenti scassa palle in un film colossale.
Ah, non sono in fanboy di Nolan, ha dei difetti, alcuni grossi tipo i dialoghi che sono spesso brutti, spesso perché sono inutili nella narrazione, ma quando fai film da 100 milioni di dollari poi devi incassare e i film senza dialoghi non incassano. Tanto che la prima stesura di Dunkirk aveva molti meno dialoghi, ma i produttori lo hanno obbligato ad aggiungerne.
@Tiredofdumbfuks
Non ho scritto in italiano pensando che parlassi solo l'inglese, ma solo perché posso comunicare meglio, visto che come sottolineavi il mio inglese non è granché.
1. Il wormhole è un concetto "basilare", non la sua forma. Il fatto che sia stato fatto come una sfera è quello che Kip Thorne chiama una "educated guess", una supposizione, un'ipotesi non dimostrata né matematicamente né empiricamente. È una cosa che il pubblico non sa, e che quindi Nolan DEVE spiegare, altrimenti il pubblico va in confusione, perché mai prima un wormhole è stato rappresentato così. Ovviamente lo fa con una spiegazione al meno esperto di quelli a bordo, cioè Cooper. E comunque un astronauta e/o un ingegnere non deve conoscere la fisica relativistica a mena dito, deve conoscere solo le cose essenziali, la forma di un wormhole non è tra quelle. Che sia una cosa semplice da comprendere non significa che la gente ci pensi, ad un ingegnere non gli interessa niente della forma di un wormhole, interessa ai fisici.
2. Scusa, qui ho frainteso la tua obiezione, facendo un discorso che non c'entra niente, chiedo venia. Comunque. a. La NASA è in semi dismissione, la NASA in uno stato normale, avrebbe mandato sonde verso il sistema Gargantua, avrebbe fatto studiare per anni i pianeti a sonde sia in orbita che a terra e poi, solo dopo aver avuto alcune certezze avrebbe mandato l'uomo. Ma la situazione non è quella di oggi, il mondo ha eliminato quasi del tutto le cose scientifiche, la NASA opera in segreto, con un personale limitatissimo e un budget probabilmente limitatissimo, quindi passa direttamente alle missioni umane. b. Non puoi andare in orbita attorno al pianeta, lanciare una sonda che raccolga i dati, aspettare di capire se va bene oppure no ecc... per tre motivi: 1. Non puoi portare con te tonnellate di materiale in un viaggio del genere, il peso è un grande nemico per i viaggi spaziali, dovresti lanciarle, metterle in orbita terrestre, poi agganciarle e portarle via o roba del genere e la NASA ha un personale limitatissimo, lavora in segreto ecc... 2. I dati sono già stati raccolti (in teoria), quindi a che serve mandare una sonda?
Tra l'altro non è che sia così semplice, entrare in orbita e lanciare una sonda.
3. Avrebbero dovuto mettersi in orbita e studiare i dati provenienti dal pianeta o cercare di comunicare con chi stava a terra probabilmente, ma mandare sul pianeta direttamente gli astronauti era il metodo più rapido e il tempo in quella situazione era un fattore vitale (l'idea era, andiamo giù veloci e poi via subito). Ora non ricordo di preciso il film, ma mi pare lo dicano abbastanza chiaramente.
In una situazione normale tutto ciò che fanno dalla missione Lazarus in poi non ha senso, ma quella non è una situazione normale.
3. Ovviamente no. Cooper non è uno che
- è partito per una missione suicida
- ha convinto altri 11 a seguirlo (se non sbaglio senza dir loro il piano, perché se non sbaglio solo Mann e Brand lo conoscevano)
- si è preso il pianeta più promettente lasciando agli altri quelli meno promettenti
- voleva diventare l'iniziatore di una nuova umanità
- ha falsificato i dati quando ha scoperto che il suo pianeta non era abitabile
- si è messo a dormire sapendo che molto probabilmente non si sarebbe mai svegliato
- ha cercato di uccidere uno dei suoi salvatori e lasciare a morire su un pianeta disabitato gli altri pur di proseguire nella sua follia, con il risultato - ovvio - che alla fine si è autodistrutto.
Non c'è illogicità, la caratterizzazione del Dr. Mann è perfettamente allineata alle sue vicende. E tra l'altro è l'equivalente umano di Hal9000 in 2001 Odissea nello spazio.
Cooper è uno che è partito per la missione perché spinto dal desidero di volare nello spazio, ma soprattutto per salvare l'umanità, compresa sua figlia, da una fine imminente. È sceso sul pianeta d'acqua sapendo che avrebbe perso tempo ma cercando di perderne il meno possibile, non sapendo che era un pianeta con onde alte km e soprattutto cercando di ripartire appena se ne è accorto. Sono due cose totalmente diverse.
Ripeto, noi non sappiamo se si può o non si può sopravvivere al superamento dell'orizzonte degli eventi di un buco nero come Gargantua, quindi il fatto che Cooper sopravviva è nel bel mezzo di una cosa che non conosciamo, quindi tutto è possibile. Cosa succede al di là dell'orizzonte nessuno lo sa, qui si entra in piena fiction, sfruttando il fatto che non sappiamo niente di quel che succede, la grande fantascienza fa questo. Una volta superato l'orizzonte degli eventi, Cooper - insieme a TARS - viene "trasportato" da "loro", da una civiltà futura avanzatissima, nel tesseratto.
E infine, lo ribadisco, attaccarsi a questi dettagli davanti ad un film così, un film gargantuesco, spettacolare come Interstellar è solo roba per patetici saccenti.
One of the best scenes for me was inside the spitfire. The sound the rattles just seemed so realistic. You can tell so much effort went into each scene.
Then the silence with the wind rushing alone when the engine is gone is scary.
"Dunkirk" is a wonderful movie as I was hooked from the beginning. "Saving Private Ryan" and "The Revenant" for me have the same effect as I will watch with the same wide-eyed amusement every time.
I don't even remember there being dialogue in this movie.
"I CAN'T SEE"
@@kshitiz.maurya 😂😂😂😂
During Dogfight: He's on me. I'm on him.
YearOfTheDog it’s cause there wasn’t ! It was a snooze fest of a film
Thats why I don't like the movie.
To me The Prestige is Nolan`s greatest work. Underrated for sure.
For me Prestige is the best movie of all time. Right next to gump forrest and green mile.
Inception
Hands down the best film he has made, mainly because he doesn't explain what is happening. Even Memento's structure is clear once you watch it a few times (that is presuming you have not read about it first). The Prestige however doesn't make it clear exactly who is narrating the story at any one point. Sometimes we are seeing the 'god's eye' perspective, other times we may be watching Borden or Angiers' account of the events. When watching the perspectives of the two magicians, we can't rely on what they tell us either, because the story is about them constantly trying to get the better of the other! For example, are we expected to believe Angiers' story about Tesla and his machine being responsible for his trick, or was all that part of his plan to fool Borden, seeing as he sent him to Colorado on a wild goose chase to begin with? That's why that film is re watchable.
Totally
Agreed!
I’ve always thought Dunkirk is Nolan’s best directed film for the exact same reasons QT mentions here. He adapted himself and his style to a specific genre that usually doesn’t have a lot of room to play in
What reasons did QT mention? Not being cantankerous; just came away from the video not knowing why QT thought it was a great movie, other than its having a few great shots. The rest of his comments seemed to be a narrative about Nolan's career.
The brilliance of the juxtaposition in the scene when he runs on to the beach and everyone is stood single file, organised, disciplined and in control right in the middle of a situation over which you have no control. That ability to capture so much with so little doesn’t waver throughout the film, with the tension the pending doom the horror and the hope always present combining emotions, its so well made, and so well shot, very few films, especially these days, tell you a story that you feel powerfully with such range.
And you can tell it wasn’t rushed and is respectful of the fact this is the story of those people, this is a true story it’s not a film it was their reality.
I’d watch more films if they were like this, Marvel and Disney have no point to them.
Almost right- But the dude in the foreground of that one shot with the explosions was a real stuntman yanked up on wires.
wow
that would be the background, but yeah you're right.
I was thinking the same. I saw a behind the scenes where a stuntman was yanked upwards. And I watched this movie in 70mm imax film. So I don’t think there was any visual effects involved. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t even think it’s possible to render visual effects at the quality of 70mm film. It’ll have to be above 10k resolution or something. And visually, it looked flawless in 70mm projection.
Chandler Thornton they removed the wire by making it not in focus. The dude was out of focus the whole shot.
@Alexandre Meyer Rude.
Was the lack of dialogue and shitting themselves and moments of eerie silence that made such a unique atmosphere for a war film.
This is THE best looking film in my 4k collection. The first scenes are visually AMAZING.
When I get fed up with the internet's toxicity it comforts me to think that time will make every Nolan's banal, resentful pretentious criticism fade like a fart in the wind and what will survive in our memory is the fact that he is one of the greatest filmakers of this century.
Personally other than The Dark Knight trilogy, I think The Prestige is his best film.
Interstellar's ending has me in tears though.
Definitely. The Prestige is my fave Nolan movie, and one of my all time fave movies.
I love how, of everyone who has seen every nolan movie, all of us seem to have a different favorite nolan film. And every time some says their favorite is the prestige or momento or the dark knight i just sorta nod my head. Like, yeah, i can see why that one would be your favorite.
Mines probably Interstellar.
Interstellar gets me at the end too.
Interstellar gets me in the end every time. The Prestige is my 2nd favorite of his. Didn't care at all for Memento, but I've only seen it once.
Prestige is amazing, even if there's the classic Nolan's third act, I personally loved it, because of how the character is presented. Thinking about it know, makes me want to watched it again.
The opening scene of this movie made me jump out of my skin in the theater. That plus the excellent dogfighting scenes make this movie.
If you were in a theater with great sound, it literally felt like you were there, the gunshots nearly blew my ears out
The score.... cinematography was a superlative of fabulous..... the music was something else...
@@michaelmota4602 the dogfight is so bad and unrealistic. Why would you go deck, and not get the E high?
Yes it excellent. Especially because there is no date when this happend. Every true happening movie does this, but not this one. Faiiillllll
The dive-bombing scenes were nothing short of terrifying. As they should have been. And while the Stuka howl definitely contributed, I think what really sold it was the way it was played on the ground. The gradual transition of characters from "what's that" to "oh shit." The way people look around, wanting to seek cover, and realize that there's none to be had. Hardly anything to be done but hit the deck and wait for the dice to stop rolling.
I’m surprised Dunkirk wasn’t universally loved when it came out. I don’t think I’ve ever felt as immersed in a movie as I did with Dunkirk
Owen Nolan
Unfortunately...
1) An increasing majority of 'critics' are braindead, narcissistic demagogue megalomaniacs.
2) An increasing majority of people today are braindead, utterly incapable of any critical thinking whatsoever, and will latch onto anyone's 'view' in in 1) above.
Tbf the people that didn’t like it were morons who don’t get how movies work
Because it wasn't filled with over the top CGI explosions and an idiotic love story (except maybe Tom Hardy and his Spitfire)
It's not a hero's story. It's a story of survival, of retreat without dying, of the agonising moment to moment with no release. It's not a pleasant or fun movie to watch. It's based on real events. There is not much escapism to be found.
The honor of just being in QT's corner shadows and hearing him walk things through, thought by thought... the bits that lead to the amalgam of his take at that moment. Every single time I hear him speak in a decent interview... I learn. I don't think it is Fan Boy status... but QT has done more than earned my ear and respect. ... the man speaks... I'm listening and learning.
I cannot wait for Tenet. Those trailers are so confusing which means its going to be Nolan at his best
Yeah, getting some inception vibes from it.
What confused you about the trailers?
@@sanjacobs6261 Idk uh maybe time flowing backwards and how the hell that all will work or fit into the story for starters.... When I say confuse, I really mean intrigue.
Nolan = Stanley Kubrick/Alfred Hitchcock
Tarantino = Sergio Leone/John Carpenter
Spielberg = David Lean/John Ford
George Lucas = a fat guy in a furry Ewok costume beating a computer terminal with a plastic light saber whilst enraged because he has frustrating writer’s block.
@@highonsleep4219 same here, I remember when I was younger and I went to see inception expecting a full on action experience, but when I watched it instead of being bummed out I was totally immersed and it birthed my love of cinema. I'd watched loads of movies previous but never respected them for their qualities and flaws. Which after inception I actually started paying attention to the surroundings and details amd not so much towards the action.
Dunkirk is not only an incredible film. It's a completely breath taking experience. The cinematography is so amazing it genuielly feels like you are in 1940 and feels like WWII which very few WWII films have captured. You are always constantly at the edge of your seat throughout the entire duration of this film. What makes it so thrilling and suspenseful is Hans Zimmer's masterpiece of a score. The constant ticking was genius and really shows just how terrifying the entire situation was.
this is definitely a big screen film, you hád to see this in theaters or you would never get the full experience
@@JimmyKillem69 You had to see it at Imax.
agree 100%
Agree. Saw it in IMAX with Atmoz Dolby and it was incredible
@Tim Donovan Rubbish statement. There are plenty of great modern movies with "'soul" such as La La Land, Whiplash, Rush, The Imitation Game, Silver Linings Playbook, Black Swan, Baby Driver, Bumblebee, Bohemian Rhapsody, A Star is Born, Skyfall, Joker all 3 How to Train Your Dragon films, Kubo and the Two Strings, Coco, Moana, Inside Out, Wreck it Ralph, Into the Spider-Verse (imo the best Spider-Man film to date), Kung Fu Panda 2, Big Hero 6, The Lego Movie, Tangled. Those are just the ones I have watched and named from the literal last decade. Most recently I saw Little Women a couple days of ago which is also a great film full of soul.
I appreciate the Nolan appreciation. His most compelling movies for me personally are Sci-fi and Superhero based. Interstellar and the Dark knight trilogy are enough to solidify him as one of the greatest ever.
Fo Sho. I think all his movies are 7's or 8's but those 4 you mentioned are 9's. And I don't give out 10's, so there is that. Nolan is goated, in my book.
Nolan is a master at the epic movie,the music,the climax,this is a masterpiece.....
I've never been as stressed out in a movie theater as I was watching this. That sound. I felt relief as it ended. Powerful filmmaking.
Wait until you watch 1917 then.....lol
@@sevenhelmets That was so well done. The art of filming that in those long runs was incredible I thought.
@@sevenhelmets watched both but still DUNKIRK is on another level .
lol
@@mrcassette 1917 is overrated. The single shot illusion has been done many times long before. The plane scene coming down is straight out of north by northwest. Nothing else about that movie is memorable. A real edge of your seat war movie is DAS BOOT.
“What do you see?”
*smiles* “Home”
Gets me every time....
Same
Masood Habibi Amazing scene in an amazing movie
Brannagh's complete lack of lips gets me every time. How is that even possible?
Dunkirk was great but there was one HUGE, immersion breaking problem with it. There weren't enough soldiers on the beach. It looked like just a few thousand instead of the nearly 400,000 that were evacuated.
As someone who loved Dunkirk I respect your criticism cause it’s a honest one. Normally Dunkirk haters be like "No wife crying. No mom crying. No character". Like a story dealing with 400k men. How would 2/3 characters would justice? But yeah. It didn’t seem like 400k soldiers. It seemed like a tiny fraction of all soliders. The blame goes on Nolan's CGI allergy
@@yasmin9473 if it weren't for that, everything else was virtually perfect. The beaches just looked empty and calm. It was weird.
There was never a sense of huge scale in this movie, which is incredible when you think of the reality.
I imagine it could be late in the evacuation with fewer people left on the beach
Many soldiers were busy fighting along the pocket perimeter. The main thing missing in fact was the massive piles of abandonned equipment, from heavy artillery and lorries to handguns that littered the beach.
I would’ve loved to hear their thoughts on finding out that very shot with the explosions was all done practically. Even the soldier who gets blown up. They had a guy on a wire get propelled up and man does it look incredibly real. Very few directors put that type of effort into doing one single shot.
" If he can do it in real life, he's going to do it".
This comment is ageing so well lmao.
I actually fell asleep watching Dunkirk, and I've never felt the need to go back to it since.
Yet Saving Private Ryan is one of my favourite WW2 films that I have re-watched a number of times.
Saving private Ryan was boring.
He's right, much as its polarized people when it came out, I was blown away. I do remember each shot in my head, from the sea shots, the dog fight, the bridge, beach, the ship.
The comment at 2:40 about how this story was MEANT to be told in a non-linear fashion really stuck out to me, makes me admire this movie even more than I thought I could.
I could listen to Quinton talk about film for years. My kids are going to everything about this guy.
@Lawn Mower in your country perhaps.
I can't wait to hear what he thinks of Tenet.
You should show your kids this variety.com/2018/film/news/quentin-tarantino-defends-roman-polanski-interview-1202688885/
Quinton Tarantula
Isn't that a form of indoctrination? Similar to a religious upbringing
I went and seen this movie with my dad before he passed
Sorry for your loss. I watched this with my mate shortly after his father had passed.
me too brotha
Saw Dunkirk in the theater, it was awesome.
Stellar cast with a stand out performance from Mark Rylance who continues to out shine headline stars in everything he does
Thing I loved about Dunkirk was how nonchalant the British pilot is. My experience of old dudes from that era is that they were real man's men that just get on with the job and don't make a big deal about things or complain about a tough job. He seemed so real for that era and role.
If you only saw Dunkirk once and didnt understand the split timelines, it was a mess. If you understood those points and watched it again, wow, a masterpiece.
So fascinating hearing Tarantino comment on this film. He himself is a legend.
I love Quentin and hearing his insight of films. Hes absolutely right about the Private Ryan comparison, the strength in that film is the incredibly powerful segment, however Dunkirk never falls flat and engages you throughout.
4:32 The best shot in Saving Private Ryan was when the soldiers are walking at night and they're silhouetted by the flashes of explosions in the background.
It was my pleasure to work on this movie as Assistant Stunt Coordinator. I trained the cast and oversaw much of the shooting and safety. I have worked on 5 of Chris Nolan’s movies now and what I like is that he knows exactly what he wants and does actually do it practically instead of just using visual effects. The shot where the guy was blown up was also done practically without VFX they where only used to paint out a line.
Who cares?
@@mandead ha ha .. so? Seriously ... I see this all the time. People in 'the industry' jumping on social media, glomming onto posts so they can brag and get compliments. It's dumb ..especially if they've got nothing interesting to say.. no insight or anything at all. ha ha .. fuck movies anyway. Just corporate garbage disguised as art.. indoctrinating a world of idiots. Nolan is pretentious shit ... he sure as hell isn't any sort of Stanley Kubrick by any stretch.
@@Fiveash-Art Yet you are on here commenting, with nothing interesting to say.
@@patrickmorgan4006 Oh well .. we can't all be the most interesting on the youtube comments
Same here. I too was a Stunt Coordinator. I had a good time working with you pal. Nolan always used to eat nothing but red beans and would spit them at Harry Styles when he gave a bad take.
Didn't realize there was that much to do with feet in Dunkirk
Well, there was an IMAX shot of a dead soldier's feet...
Geralt of Trivia You know what would be more relaxing? A round or two of Gwent.
@peaceplease i just saw that the other day too..
Cinematography to the direction and sound track... fabulous work of Nolan..master piece ...
Loved Dunkirk. No main character. No love story. Just great actors and a great story told which happened to be true .
man, Dunkirk was my first IMAX experience, i had to go pee when they were showing the commercials at the start, but i was so excited for it that i couldn't get myself to go, because i didn't wanna miss one second of the movie, i ended up holding it in for the whole movie, through all the vibrations and sound effects of it.
I'd love to hear Tarantino's top 10 of the 2010s, anyone know where I can find it?
Id also like to know
I'm still looking for it (Tarantino actually used to put out a list of the top ten films of each year but he stopped doing it). I know he called Dunkirk the no. 2 film of the decade, and he also revealed that Unstoppable (The Tony Scott directed movie with Denzel and Chris Pine aboard a runaway train - good movie but strange choice) was another of his top films of the decade. I actually don't think he's released the list yet - he has been doing a podcast (the one on here - The Rewatchables for The RInger) and he will discuss a third film on the next episode)
Same
Very inferesting
@@jamesrawlins735 what he likes unstoppable? That's actually insane becuase that was one of my favorite movies to watch on TV when I was a few years younger. It's underated and it was fun.
Nolan's portrayal of the Little Ships of Dunkirk was amazing. I never know about that story before.
Also, love that Quentin seemed to be mull for a second over whether Nolan used a dummy for the bomb shot or just went with a real guy
I was on a date when I saw this movie. I barely remember the guy but this film was breathtaking. Can't think of anything I didn't like. I would say watching this in a theater hit me more than my living room.
I just watched 1917. I was amazed. It's a must watch for any cinematography fans.
Curious - which movie did you enjoy more (or think was better): Dunkirk or 1917? Both movies are great for sure
@@jamesrawlins735 I liked 1917 more, but they're set in different wars in general.
1917 is definitely better
@@jamesrawlins735 to be honest i would call Dunkirk a very good movie, and 1917 a masterpiece. Ever since watching 1917, i can't stop thinking about it
@@segafrog I'd say 1917 is my favorite WW1 movie and Dunkirk is about WW2, but there are some really good classics.
Dunkirk is a film that I love sharing with people who haven't seen it. I agree that from an artistic perspective it is a perfect film that will hold up over time.
This is the perfect war movie i have ever seen. There is no hero, hero villian, no important character. Because at the time of war everyone were hero themselves. So it's a real dedication to all war heros.! Everyone in this movie played their part well and importantly. And i think that's why his cinematography is a masterpiece.
This. The most pure war movie. Not a drama movie like 1917. Just a war movie. And it’s done in the best way possible. The characters are shown as expendable as they were actually in the war. As I watch it more, the more I appreciate it.
Compare his Dunkirk against the Dunkirk scene in Atonement, then you might understand why I say this.
I was lucky enough to see Dunkirk at the metreon theater in San Francisco in its full 70 mm version. Truly amazing from the gunshot in the first few scenes to the plane landing towards the end
This movie and 1917 are two of my big faves in recent times.
Dunkirk is unique in its own way but I think as a war movie 1917 has the edge on it.
Watch “der Hauptmann” (The Captain).
For me, one of the best war-movies, but criminally overlooked.
There is no such thing as a Q.T. interview without him saying "Aright?"
I remember watching this in theatres and the Stukas really gave me goosebumps.
Dunkirk is indeed a rewatchable. I got that immediately. Have watched it at least 5 times so far and expect to do so many more times yet.
Loved the restraint in this movie. No unnecessary exposition, no over the top action. Just an amazing score with a haunting, suspenseful plot.
perfectly said. truly a breath of fresh air these days
Not a fan of Tarantino’s movies personally but I do love listening to him talk about film. He has such a personal passion for cinema that doesn’t come across in most other directors. Plus we both see Unbreakable as nothing short of a masterpiece 👍🏼
Yeah, liking his work is up to each person. But anyone can tell he's super passionate about what he does.
He's a cinema GOD
Watch pulp fiction again❤
@@brendandaly5397your opinion. To me, Christopher Nolan is still the greatest director of all time amd the greatest film maker ever...
@hristijandimitrovski8664 for me there are many director's QT is not top of my list... Michael Mann is my favorite (not the best) tip 5ish for are ridley Scott James Cameron Steven speiberg... no particular order
One of my favorite directors talking about one of my favorite directors.
I saw this on proper IMAX, and it blew me away. I could have happily watched three hours of dogfighting aircraft.
Love QT’s enthusiasm and of course, he’s a great director himself.
Good director the greatest writer but the greatest director is scorsese
All I want now is to know QT’s top 10 of 2010-2020 😭😭😭😭
His top three:
1. The social network
2. Dunkirk
3. (Probably) Mad max: Fury road
I was blown away by it too!
Actually, the guy in the bombing scene was a stuntman. No dummy, no cgi character.
For anyone interested in how they did the "greatest shot in war movie history": The impacts on the sand were all real (compressed air tanks I guess). There is a smartphone clip that shows the different impacts as they happen.
For the guy that gets blown up: It's 100% in camera! There also is a behind the scenes smartphone video on youtube where they rehearse the stunt (I can't find it that quick but just go through the "dunkirk behind the scenes" videos on youtube). The guy was in a harness and at the same time the compressed air tank "explodes" the guy gets lifted up into the air (there was some kind of reverse bungee system a few feet away from the cameras POV).
Fucking crazy. Amazing.
Thanks for that info, as I remember watching the film and seeing that soldier going up in the air.
And probably the san was real too, or maybe not. LOL
Zzz. No gore. No stakes. Was like a PG fight scene from a disney movie.
@@nuggetpiece exactly, everyone here praising a war movie with no wounds is just ignorant.
Dunkirk is Nolan's best film in my opinion, it's absolutely haunting and stays with you
i could listen to tarantino talk about film FOR HOURS
I love that Quentin Tarantino loves Christopher Nolan’s work and vice versa. They are both in my list of top five favorite directors.