The movie review is out! This video you're watching is mainly an analysis and defense of the manga made in 2017 just after the first movie teaser dropped. Here's a review of the movie proper. th-cam.com/video/cCiefCg1z-w/w-d-xo.html
Wait, so Ghost in the Shell loses points for being altered for a western audience, but Death Note gets points for being altered for a western audience?
OK. So, I never heard about Alita, until just recently, and all of the Sick Jackass Wackos (SJWs) attacking it, in favor of the crap marvel movie, captain marbles, and, then this came across my ewe-toob feed, so I watched it. The funny thing, is, that the ewe-toob feed shows this video to have been put out about 1 year ago. So, how did you get the trailers from a movie that just came out, rather recently, to put in a ewe-toob video 1 year ago ?!? Don't get me wrong. I will not be wasting my valuable time or money with the captain marbles, but, you have made me interested in the Alita movie. Great Job !
@@MyButtsBeenWiped They dropped the first teaser for the film in December 2017. This video was a response to some weird hot takes at the time. I've seen the movie twice and loved it. I am ALSO going to see Captain Marvel because I think all this "anti-sjw" bellyaching is really weird and I think it should be okay for people to want to see both movies.
Cameron said he would make it a trilogy if the first movie has good reception; lets see if this happens. You should read the manga in the meantime; was the first manga I read and totally loved it.
Her eyes are what made her different and unique... In my opinion she was beautiful.. And Rosa Salazar did a great job.. Even the critics are highliting Rosa's work as the highest point. I definitely recommend this movie
As a fan since the mid 90s I have to say I loved it. Just saw it tonight. I'm glad they took notes from all the sources. The casting options were great. The eyes, I think there was a more logical explanation based on her origin for the larger eyes. Robert and James did it justice imo.
I’m... so split on this movie. it’s beautiful and there’s so much to love, but it’s almost TOO pretty. I wanted it to be much, much darker... the protagonists aren’t utterly broken inside like in the manga, and the intensity of their drive just isn’t there. It’s still a terrific effort, but I waited for 10 years for James Cameron to make it, and I can’t help thinking he would have made it much better. Gunnm is just too important for me to feel satisfied with this version, as much as I respect the effort. The scrapyard is too nice, and Hugo too much teen dreamboat and not enough desperate scrapyard rat. That ending is sooo iconic to me, and in the film I just didn’t feel it. Sigh. Still glad it got made, but... what could have been...
BattleAngelFan it became my favorite movie of all time too! I had waited for it for 15 years because James Cameron was making it, saw it three times in the theater! Finished reading the first manga series a few days ago.
Rotten Tomatoes critics gave it a 60. The Ghost in the Shell was a total failure. Alita is fantastic!! Rodriguez got it right!! The casting was spot on. Rosa sold it. I am not a shill. I hated Ghost in the Shell, and was afraid that this would be another screw up. The critics can suck it . . . they thought Ghostbusters reboot was great . . . what does that tell you. Alita is totally worth watching.
I think critics look at cinema as if it is science. It is not! A movie either works or not! It does not have to have a sophisticated plot to work. It can have flaws but still be an amazing and magical experience. Especially if you think of kids or teens experiencing a movie - they just might really like it and they do not perceive it from critics perspective. But not only they, just the average movie goer. Almost every time when critics really love a movie I do to, like the last jedi and drive, but recently more and more often I really enjoy movies that critics do not like. Alita is a really strong example, as it is an amazing movie. Another one is venom, from recent movies.
@@Grchman actually, it's kinda the opposite. Those that hate it seem to think its stealing from captain marvels debut. At least lots of the articles seem to be angled that way.
I'd never heard of Alita Battle Angel before the trailers, but I had no idea that it was based in Anime. Though being an avid anime fan, the large eyes didn't phase me, or make me think she was a blow-up sex doll or some such. I looked beyond the obvious, and saw something I genuinely enjoyed. Though the Combat aspect of it really caught my attention also. I can't wait for this movie, but now that I know there's a Manga, I will be checking it out for myself.
This is something I heard about a lot during the early 00s when anime magazines like Animerica and Anime Insider not only talked about the Manga and anime a lot, but the fact that James Cameron was wanting to adapt it. I never actually thought it was actually going to get made.
To be accurate it’s based on a Manga, the anime only covers the first chapter in the series. After BAA it extends into BAA: Last Orders which blows out a new macro universe (literally) of the back history.
I just came back from the cinema, they movie is great. It really needed 20 more minutes and there were things at the end of the movie that did not make sense to me but now that I watched your video they do. Thank you!
I think many people dun understand why Hugo need to do so... and why the story end like this, (me same) but after i checked the information and read the first two chapters of the manga after the movie, i know this is just the beginning journey of Alita, and wht happened to Hugo will affect the character of Alita
Yeap but to be fair they opened that cliffhanger to a sequel. I kinda hated the casting for Hugo but the rest was actually fine. Nova appearing last second was a lil weird.
Yeah it was visual bliss and the few action scenes we got were nothing short of amazing... But the love story was forced and took WAY too much of screen time and the dialogue was just absolutely terrible, felt like it was made for teenage girls. Still a pretty ok experience, hopefully we get a sequel thats better.
The movie is the shits people, 9-14 bucks well spent. Go, go watch it now, it needs all the support it's gonna get and it's nice to see that they finally got it right.
Woow!!! Watching a movie in the US costs at least 9 bucks? Here in México is just about 3 dollars in a good cinema. Ps: The movie is the best live-action manga adaptation I've ever seen.
How does mexican and austrailian money compare to american money on the exchange? Might actually be similar price eben though it sound like a big difference. Either way, still worth the price!
@@NickonPlanetRipple I'm usually on the side that makes fun of the brainwashed and co-opted feminists and SJW types, but it's hard to argue against the fact that Hollywood really does make us swallow a lot of shallow and immature tropes about women, to the point that they've all become sickeningly cliche; So many people still think The Fifth Element was a great sci fi film, so its refreshing to see someone point out how "creepy" the whole thing really is in how it treats Leeloo like a loser's sex trophy... But it's even more fascinating to see such a clever counter to that formula coming from a 30+ year old cartoon/comic created by a culture that still retains such old-fashioned views on gender roles and behaviors.
"Nobody knows what Battle Angel is except Battle Angel Fans" Hell Yeah to that!!!! I'm swiss and found the 1st 9 Volumes in a Box back in 2000. it was one of the first Mangas I bought, I was 9 years old back then, looks like we have the same age^^, and it still holds it's number one place on my shelves. I never met anyone else here that even knew or had heard of it. It was also what made me learn martial arts. I'm a teacher of that now and living my idol. Alita/Yoko and her universe of characters shaped my youth to a great extent, I was bullied quite a lot back then through a lack of social skills and she taught me to get back up. I also love James Cameron and his movies, avatar specifically. and I was more than happy to learn in 2012 that he actually planned to turn MY FAVOURITE Manga into a Film. I found that really old interview with him and Yukito Kishiro back then where they discuss a possible movie. I have been fangirling since then. I also really like the points you bring up here, the sexist/Child ones, I've never seen it from that angle but I can totally agree. I was furious right along with her back then. To your last question: yes it makes sense, completely. Thank you very much for summing this up, and making this Clip. I think it was really necessary. Thank you!!!!!! :D
The more I think about it, it's kinda like when a parent remarries and you get to know your step siblings. It doesn't take long to feel "safe" around them cause you don't have to worry about them ever asking for anything like "that" from you. It's funny how humans can also feel this way about completely fictional characters, as if they are a family member or you wish they could be. For them to be there for you, a support system. Also, your story is powerful. Damn. Probably the best thing that can result from exposure to this comic.
Yes, I will forever be thankful to Yukito Kishiro Sensei for creating this work in the insane amount of detail and continuing it for so long. I think to an extent those characters sometimes feel more real to me than actual people. Especially Alita since she has been around for so long. And her emotions are raw and real to me. I can always relate. especially the part where she says: "whatever my arms can reach, in this space I am invincible." That sentence has stuck with me. I also thought Kishiro-Sensei was really brave to go through with the idea that Alita in Last Order was "just a chip" and not her brain so not actually "her". I had introduced some people to it back then and many of them stopped reading it when this fact was revealed, they felt betrayed. I did too at first but I also thought, just because it isn't her, doesn't make the experiences I went through while reading it less real, it also doesn't make her less real. So I stuck with it and as always it only got better. Thank you very much for replying and all the best to you! I also hope for an awesome fun experience in the theaters this year. To be honest I will be happy with whatever I get. I mean, it's Alita in Colour!! I just hope I don't have to keep trying to defend it from the mass media.... Maybe more of my friends will read it though? Who knows. Ps: this is the first of your videos I have seen so forgive me I don't know your usual content yet.
I mostly talk about games or other products I feel are underappreciated and want to share the things I like about them. I don't much care for "angry" reviews, I focus more on the positive and on theming. I do this pretty sporadically though, since a lot more of my time goes towards my own comic series called "Planet Ripple." I'm autistic, so I made a story about a girl with autism (her name is Minnow), using tried and true scifi concepts as metaphors for hers and others' struggles. Going to release volume 3 for print in a month if things go well.
Thank you for explaining, I really like your optimistic approach to things. It's not very common. I am definitely going to read your Comic-Series now. Seems I can get it here. Crossing my fingers that it will work out :)
You can read the entire first volume (albeit an early version of it that I made numerous minor tweaks to when reformatting it for print) for free if you're curious. There's links to all the pages in the archive section of my website, planetripple(dot)com. It's about 150 long, divided into eight chapters.
This is a wonderful video, I am so impressed by your ability to drill down the reasons why audience connects to certain characters and how movies are designed for us to do so. The amount of psychological analysis in this video is over the roof. Just WOW!
oh yeah? Gunnm is a philosophical ,existential questionning master piece to be sitting next to A Brave New World, only with a lot more. Where is all that in the movie? Where is the scrapyard? Where is the brutal constant immorality that contrasts so well with the beautiful yet politically not correct philosophical insights and questioning of both Nova, Ido, Gally and the main enemies? I come to realize a lot of fans didn't read the manga the way the writer did wrote it, but only enjoyed the battles, the fights and the panzer kuntz techniques while these are only side dishes of the story's existential goal and depth... Gunnm adapted into Battle Angel Alita is like adapting a Mad Max into a twilight movie. It's an heresy.
I'm not entirely sure you originally quite caught the extent and depth of the "philosophy and existential questioning" of Yukito Kushiro in the manga if you find yourself able to say that (which also extends to bioengineering at some high levels)...I mean, it goes as deep as digging the "quantum mind", social thermodynamics principles, Nietzsche's Nihilism and such, and he literally mentions them at some point to better guide readers because he doesn't leave it to so much interpretation, his clues are guidance, not fancy words for the show (which seems to be only that for you in the manga)... The movie was intentionally, that I figured after reading more (mooore) of the Cameron-Rodriguez-Kishiro collaboration, made simpler to give the opportunity for a wider audience to get on board, just like the GUNNM ANIME was, just any big screen, adaptation is (remember the 1984 fiasco?). Just like anything that has ever been popularized actually, it has to get through some simplification-process for the wider audience to not get lost in the intellectuality of it. And anything that is simplified is then over-simplified by most of an audience who then interprate the art piece as... anything they want. And that doesn't do justice to the beautiful mind of Yukito Kishiro.
Also something quite simple you quite don't catch: Mad Max. Since GUNNM more than obviously was inspired by Mad Max (amongst other influences), try and get rid of the vile humanity of the world of Mad Mzx, and see if it still stands strong together on the screen with the same meaning and the same story and the same understanding and feel from the audience :). Same with Gunnm's world. It isn't the happy, joyful, enthusiatic world that is portrayed in the movie, it only "says" it's evil, but looks nothing evil. It's colorful, always sunny, sparkling and feels like a world I'd gladly be a part of. The original scrapyard is a place so vile I was scared to shit living near anything close or far from what it is, when I discovered the books at age 12. Take music, take an original complex track. if you move, alterate, change the background, the harmonies, but only keep a so-called structure with a couple of original phrases and intervals of the original theme, you get a new song, only with glimpse and influences of the original one which has been re-interpreted. Btw I'm saying this with the idea that you already understand the difference between lyrics and music. A word's meaning has no meaning in music, only the music conveys words through emotions, words only are aggregates to a track's theme for the general popular public who mistakes music with sung poetry. Saying this as the academically and professionally trained musician I am.
@@jimbolic0809 Fox keeps blocking it worldwide the instant it finishes uploading. I keep having to fiddle around with it and spend another 8 hours uploading it. It's torture.
Battle Angel is so special to me. When I first read this it I hated it as a kid, but after I was in the army as an adult and read through it again I started to get it. It’s an underrated story and I think all people would love it when they reach certain age
I’ve been a reader and fan of this manga for around 26 years. Yeah I’m old and I love what they did with the film. It needs to make serious money so he can keep these coming.
@@StAnger561to770 yes and the reason Hugo is in the movie because it makes ALITA that much more of a badass in the mangas and hopefully in the sequel. Read the Mangas and find out why Hugo had to be in the Movie. It's called character development
Just watched Alita and I strongly recommend it.. the character or Alita is likeable and well developed the world building is nicely plotted. The visuals are great! definitely needs to be successful because a sequel has a potential for a great payoff just off the world building.
you should read the manga, her character development is a rollercoaster but amazingly well written and good, plus its expansion on the genre of cyberpunk is great too.
I saw the movie yesterday and without knowing anything about the comic book I enjoyed it immensely. And I agree with everything you said. It did start out as that suspect trope, but she quickly evolved out of it. A great story.
I watched this the other day, and I was thinking about how you put down the whole falling in love with a guy because he's the first guy she's seen after her memory wipe. Born Sexy Yesterday trope. However, isn't first potential love interest being the one the person ends up with is the norm? A recent example of this comes from the constant stream of iksei stories that are coming about. Here we have a stream of ordinary Japanese men, thrust into a new world they know nothing about, and literally the first girl the guy meets is almost always the main love interest. Even if the girl is also exceptional in her own way, the fact is that the ikeai tends to be some sort of god tier person that could easily find someone else, but that's the first person he met in this new world, so that's who he ends up with.
@@tomaO2 Oooooh believe me, I'm sick of that genre too. Isekai has taken the anime world by storm because it basically plops the viewer into that scenario with self-insert protags.
@@tomaO2 and @Nick I first encountered the term "born Sexy Yesterday" for the trope described in th-cam.com/video/0thpEyEwi80/w-d-xo.html by Pop Culture Detective, who claims he give the trope the name. I wonder if that is where the term taken from because PCD is uncredited with no citation.
@@rasaecnai Well, yeah. He gave the trope a name, and now it's become a broader thing that other people reference. He didn't say I had to credit him? I wasn't aware that I was supposed to? He actually appreciated this video.
Seriously, why does Hollywood ALWAYS feel the need to DUMB DOWN all the nuances, sophistication, and multilayered anime story/characters to one dimensional, over-simplified, characters, black and white story line? As if the western audience is incapable to understand or appreciate the above? SAY IT AIN'T SO!
There's also a throng of shallow "influencers" that give bad reviews to anything deeper than a cookie tray. That's why media comenters like Nick here should be cherished.
Hollywierd generally feels they can reach a wider audience if they pander the largest denominator. Thats not allways the highest level In Short $$. there not into this to lose.
Because "entertaining" sells better than "intelligent"... I cannot tell you how many people I've talked to that calls deep movies "boring" while there are sequels after sequels of simple action-packed movies made and watched. Sorry to break it to you, but maybe most Americans ARE stupid, or at least they're into stupid stuff.
Old school female fan of the manga here. Teared up a bit near the end when you talked about your background and this character. I too related to her in that way.
I didn't had any expectations other than recommendations from my friends, but that was almost worthless because I thought it was another weird weeb thing. The big eyes creeped me out. But Im glad I thought that way, because it blew me away and caught me with my pants down lol. Didn't expect that good of a movie. Amazing.
Hell, Battle Angel was one of the first anime I ever watched as a teen in the 90's. It was one of the reasons I even got into Anime in the first place! To me it's a classic.
Same here along with Doomed Megalopolis, Akira, 3x3 Eyes, Ninja Scroll, Fist of the North Star, Dominion Tank Police, Oedo 808, Patlabor(s), Project A-Ko, Appleseed ('95) and GitS, all back then in the day.
We just watched it last week (twice, in fact, as my girlfriend came round the following evening demanding we watched it again!) and fell in love with her (and Ido!) in the first 5 minutes.
@@l.b6906 She was born on mars, grew up in a war torn land and became part of an interplanetary terrorist organization that trained her how to fight. It was a a messed up life she had before.
Just saw the new trailer and I am SO EXCITED. I was a little worried for a while, but it's looking better and better. Even the eyes. Can't wait. In the meantime, welcome first time viewers!
It the core, yes. But that gets compounded with other things that throw a wrench in that dynamic and make it less than healthy at points. That's not a criticism, that's just a part of the story.
I echo @rcfrandsen's request and would LOVE to watch your analysis or review of the brand new trailer. Also, James Cameron, Robert Rodriguez, Jon Landau & Rosa Salazar have streamed a 40+ minutes very insightful (I think) Live Q&A today. Would you like to comment on what you hear and picked up from that discussion? th-cam.com/video/pYwjokFLKx4/w-d-xo.html P.S. Thanks a lot for your analysis in this video. Love to hear more from long time manga fans of Alita: Battle Angel like you! Very cool!
I originally wasn’t going to see this movie on the theater, just wait for it to come out on dvd, but my best friends sisters wanted to see it and I told them I’d take them. And boy I’m glad I did! It was an amazing movie with a great story and I can’t wait for a sequel.
i'm crying after hearing your reasoning about this movie\original concept.. i'm 36 years old and Alita was, and still is the best story i've ever ever ever read..
just saying: In movies there is always messages in movies that most people overlook and watch movies for entertainment, There is much more to a story then just a movie... Threatening the natural order of things ? Look where the world is today Just what is the Natural order of thing's Indoctrinated into a society of the way they want us to believe? It sure isn't mankind's ways. The Natural Order of things on Planet Earth was before Mankind came to be. From the beginning mankind took from everyone, Pillaged, Killed, Genocide, wars, famine, for land and power... For what, Really just for what? why do humans have to create Chaos and kill one another to get what they want, why do certain people have to parade to try and make a statements that are fabricated in their own minds, hrc, pelosi, chucky. obozo trying to sell a false narrative, Yet the sheeple and msm eat it up and run with it just for ratings even if it is a lie. Natural order of things? This planet was loaned to us, It isn't ours to desecrate and destroy nature and the air we breath but with the greed it's coming to an end and it's survival and these days a huge percentage of humans can't even build a campfire without the aid of matches or a bic. When one sits back and sees the so called order of things it just makes one sick when you look around, even the continued spying on everyones computers, THAT was the reason for windows 10. so they can see what everyone is up to... 1984 was a story Not a manual...
Then you haven’t read Harry Potter. 😉 (lol sry that’s basic Ik but I seriously loved the story and it changed my life. However, I have read this and it was a great book 👍)
Very well put. I went into the theater completely ignorant of the Battle Angel manga or anime so I was an empty slate. What I saw was mesmerizing. The production design was greatly influenced by the art styles of the late 70's and 80's, the years I grew up. Whatever concerns you had about the movie not doing well can now be dispelled. Last I checked it has made over 370 million worldwide and I've read comments on TH-cam channels with people saying they've already seen it up to 5 times (or even more), it's only once in a great while a film has such an effect on people. I just viewed an interview with Rosa Salazar where she said she walked into a coffee shop and was recognized as Alita even before the movie was released. Huge numbers of people will deeply appreciate this rare gem of a movie. Word is spreading and the numbers bear it out. Hopefully it clears half a billion and will lead to sequels.
Woah woah woah, this is. . . predatory ish? Alita: "I want to be a warrior" Father: "Don't be stupid, you don't know what you're saying. I didn't give you limbs do things like this(referring to being a warrior) you don't have to work, all you have to do be beautiful. If you want money. . ." Alita then says something pertaining to the invigorated feeling of fighting for justice. Father: "You don't know what your saying I don't want you soiling your perfect head with bloodshed" Alita: "Do you think I'm just some doll for you to play with?" Tell him Alita, get it. 👏👏🌺
A father telling his child that he didn't pay for a university education just so they could have their head bashed in in front of an audience (in a boxing match). That's how I read the situation, nothing predatory about it. The biggest difference being that Alita will be in far greater danger, both physically and psychologically.
After more than 10 years expecting Alita: Battle Angel I can say that it was more than worth it. I never read the manga so I didn't know what to expect but rarely does a film come around that is unique in its balance of new & classic, meaningful & enjoyable in its fast-paced excitement. I watch a lot of movies and rarely do I feel like that after a movie. For me Alita captures the magic of cinema. It is better than avata and almost up there with the matrix and if a trilogy gets made it might get even better than the matrix at the end. I think James Cameron and Robert Rodriguez and all the actors did a rarely great job. I saw it on my own and cannot wait seeing it again several more times with my wife and friends :)))
@@StAnger561to770 why ? seen it 3 times now and would see it again if it was in a cinema anywhere near me ,,and i can't wait till may for the blu-ray release ,, Alita definitely has a certain quality you don't find in most movies ,, perhaps it's because so many people working on and in the move are fans of the manga ,, perhaps it's the casting, lots of big names but your watching a character not a star ,, perhaps it's Rosa Salazar`s amazing performance as Alita ,, this is the first movie i have seen in years that when it ended i just wanted them to change reels and show part 2
@@StAnger561to770 whatever dude ,thats your opinion , nobody is twisting your arm to watch it and your not liking it makes zero difference to my enjoyment of the movie so what's your point ? you don't like it ! am i meant to give a fuck ?
Thank you so much, I really cannot express my appreciation for you making this video except for showing it to every single person I know. This was a masterful way of expressing every single thing I've wanted to say in my unheard and not understoood private high hopes for this movie. It meant a lot to me as growing up and it felt something awful not being able to have it be understood on why. You did it all here. And I want to say thank you so much.
Thank you for believing in Alita since the start. I was a big skeptical when they released the 1st trailer but after the 2nd and the 3rd I was hyped af for this film. And I just watched it yesterday on Valentine with my boyfriend and Jesus we both loved it so much. Rosa's performance and other actors are fanstatic. The visual is stunning and fight scenes are spectacular. Definitely recommend to all people. Please don't let this film flop, it deserves attention and commercial success.
To be fair the actress already has pretty big eyes so they could have left them alone but they grew on me because she isnt human in the typical fashion.
Same here, Sodafreakdrawing. The eyes snagged my attention immediately, and to me they don't look _creepy_ but rather _innocent._ The look alone says this is a naive girl trying to find her way in a world she doesn't understand, which is something I can relate to (except as a boy instead of a girl). I'd never heard of the anime before seeing the trailer for the movie, and really I'm not that interested in anime at all - but what her eyes represent to me might make this the first movie I watch in a theater since Return of the King.
I love Alita so much. After Berserk it’s my fave manga. She’s such a role model to keep pushing and fighting and that no one is perfect. She’s the best female protagonist I’ve ever had the pleasure to know. I wish more people would give the manga a chance.
@@yum8666 Berserk? Don't worry, you have plenty of plenty of time to finish it. In fact, with the amount of hiatuses Miura takes, your kids might be in college by the time it reaches it's conclusion.
They address different issues though. Astroboy is about parenthood and duty, a Pinocchio tale. Alita is more about who I am, where do I come from and where does it take me. And you need to be a bit lectured to read it... lots of technical terms, philosophical, come and return in the series. psychological...
Give it ago. I watched the OVA first then I went to a local comic shop and found the volumes. The rest is history. I read the online releases but I do buy the volumes when they release too.
I highly recommend it. To me the manga tells the tropes of what makes one alive and human, wtih the cyborgs, their brains, and creators who make them. It kinda is like Astro Boy in that regard, as alot of manga creators touch on that core.
I had never heard of Alita, until I heard the lousy reviews for this movie. Fortunately, I heard a dissenting review, that intrigued me enough to check it out. I was marginally aware of manga, in general, so I was ambivalent, but open minded about the movie. I watched all of the trailers, and was blown away. I got a ticket for a premium showing, and was really glad I did. The movie ended looking like there might be a sequel, an *man!* I sure hope so!
This is such a brilliant break down of the series, i really love how you showed all these different parts of it! I watched the movie recently and it's so amazing! This video has gotten me interested in the manga even more now as well because i dont want to wait on the next movies to see more of this story!
SuperWolfkin, does pop culture detective's video explain as to whether or not BSY can actually be done properly while still being played technically straight, without all the problems this video points out?
Hey man, randomly checked out the trailer for Alita today. Then I decided to follow up and watch this video! I really like it. You did a great job here analyzing tropes in movies and how directors and writers pander to certain audiences. 10/10 great video
Funny thing about this trailer for me... I had never heard of the character. I don't read Manga, but I like the art style. I'm closing in on 60 so my exposure to Japanese animation and cartoons is old Astro Boy, Space Battleship Yamato, and Captain Harlock... but watched on a french language channel, I don't speak french so all I could do was watch and fill in the story myself. So... what's my point? I saw the first trailer and got hooked on the look and idea of the story immediately. I'm going to be picking up the books as soon as I can. Funnier is that because I have no real history with the genre, I didn't even see the Adult to Child/Adult plaything aspect of the trailer. To me it was about the hero's journey aspect. Yes it felt a lot like 'Buffy' but that's ok. It's a good thing. I like that story and am looking forward to seeing how it plays out in a culture different from my own. Anyway, looking forward to the movie, looking forward to getting the books. An Alita fan in the making. ;)
Although shorter in content, more adult themed & technically detailed and graphic (but not in an out and out xxx adult way), I would recommend the 3 OVA's of *Cyber City Oedo 808* done/dubbed by Manga Entertainment UK Ltd too. It is complete with some of the best 80s/90s voice actors of the original cyberpunk era such as Sean Barrett, Stuart Milligan, Nigel Greaves, Daniel Flynn and the late Bob Sherman etc, with the aptly emotive and fitting rockish music to boot. another series with human qualities and progressions, with well though stories and novel settings/plots, are *Planetes* and *Jormungand* Before some other commentators jump on me for saying dubs and subs; I do like original language subs (subtitles) as they can & do impart more original intent and meaning from a different viewpoint as originally desired, but sometimes to be fair, great dubs can bring that extra pazazz instead of detracting from the original bad dubbing [cough cough Akira..] when they are done well with understand non-relatedly yet similar tropes and ideoms that must be conveyed differently to have the same intent & effect. Not all subtitles are well translated, sometimes even the original studio prefer the dubbed version(s) too [cough cough Hellsing & Hellsing Ultimate]. P.S. I had to add just this on the end; *Band-Maid!!*
Incredible dissection of what this anime represents for so many fans and also of how it’s relatable to so many others and not just females. As one of the original fans of the 2 episode mini film, and an 80’s and 90’s anime fan, I’m glad to see your comment that you enjoyed the new movie and am looking forward to not lowering my expectations for it! Also, looking forward to seeing your review for it. This is the first time I’ve come across your channel and I subscribed immediately 👍🏼
Even though i never seen the anime or manga i am hyped for it including spiderman into the Spider Man into The Spiderverse,Bumblebee, and Aquaman so i will see this on opening day or weekend
I just stumbled upon this after seeing the movie the other night at a preview. I think you're going to love it. This video made me appreciate it even more.
Kind of weird hearing Ghost in the Shell used as an example of bad adaptation due to drastically altering the tone and characters considering that's exactly what the 1995 movie did to the manga.
I wish i got the swagger to be a player so i wont have to watch it alone lol
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I've watched the movie yesterday and it was just great. Fortunately they didn't "Hollywooded" it and you can feel the atmosphere of manga and anime. One thing (and you mentioned it) it's a little bit too clean - I don't need to be like District 9 mess but I haven't felt it is difficult place to live. But really strong 4/5 and I hope for sequel :)
Yukito Kishiro is for me like an Isaac Asimov of Japanese sci-fi. I am a fan of Alita since 1991. The commentary of Rick on Planet Ripple is accurate and balanced. It does not try to dogmatically explain why things are in Japanese culture as they are. Yukito's post-apocalyptic view is one of a kind, where he draw us face to face with the situations of being human and the human nature of our own desires and expectancy. How can a cyborg replicate those codes? Alita has a shocking way to one of the possible answers. Thank you.
I don't understand how rotten tomatoes can have 60% ratings on this. I just got done watching a cam at half quality and I think they killed it. And I feel this way having seen it looking only half of what it should be. I can't see anyone else taking this graphic novel and doing as good of a job as James Cameron. As usual you can't trust the reviews on there because this was a good movie.
Maybe because they take the philosophical parts out of the film and replace it mostly with just action? Every single anime-into-film adaptation sucks and sucks in the same way.
Kenneth. If you think it was awesome please go buy a ticket and watch on the big screen. Totally worth it, and it will help make the next movie happen.
It's a weak argument because me watching or not watching it is not gonna change the fact that it could've been a better adaptation but isn't. How is that hard to understand?
That 3rd group you mentioned - i am totally in it as i knew of Battle Angel Alita but had never seen the anime or read the manga. I wanted to see this from the first time i saw the trailer and i have seen the movie - it was amazing! I ordered the box set of the original manga as well as the movie prequel novel and movie novelizations (which i just got in today).
Holy shit, I'm so glad this popped into my suggested. I've been seeing the commercials for this film everywhere and I've been ignoring it. I'm definitely going to check out the manga!
I have been scared by the first and second animation when I was child. Now, the new trailer attracted me to explore more. I just finish 9 episodes manga, and review animations. I become to be a big fan to Gunnm (Battle Angel).
I have every confidence that Alita will be a faithful adaptation. Say what you will about Cameron and Rodriguez they are 2 of the most visionary film makers of our time. People harp on Cameron for the story and writing of Avatar yet forget this is the same guy that gave us memorable lines and stories for Terminator, Aliens, True Lies and Titanic. Cameron's film has always been about the experiencing the ride everything else is bonus. Rodriguez has his bumps in the road but like Cameron his films are visually stunning. Sin City is still gorgeous to look at. So yes I believe Alita is going to surprise alot of movie goers and I hope people give it a chance.
I WAS ONE OF THE GUYS WHO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ALITA BATTLE ANGEL BUT AFTER SEEING THE FILM, I WAS AMAZED BY NOT ONLY THE CGI AND GREAT EFFECTS BUT ALSO THE STORY, SO I CHECKED IT OUT AND I BECAME A HUGE FAN OF HER... CAN'T WAIT FOR A SEQUEL!
Just came from the movie. Totally satisfied, surprisingly! It's a great adaptation made from pure sincere love for Kishiro's work. I hope there to be plenty of sequels. There are lots to be told here, and I want more
Oh yeah, I remember finding the OVA on video. Especially the chain leading to the rich city left an impression. Anyway, good luck to the adaptors. I don't think American movies can ever really capture a Manga/ Anime's spirit. The Japanese are way more daring in shamelessly building stories on pure raw emotions and feelings. We westerns always seem more reserved and uncomfortable putting our souls naked on display.
Actually I think it's more that most of the people trying to adapt them are mostly doing it for the money and don't actually know what makes it so good. They're doing it because they know it made a lot of money (like dragonball, ghost in the shell, etc.). What gives me hope is that Cameron isn't making Alita because it made a lot of money (it didn't, like, at all), he's doing it because he actually likes it.
Roger van der Weide talk for yourself pal. English and nordic westerners are your role model in attitude. Latin westerners and mediterraneans are not ashamed by showing their feelings. Give a look to the greek Theatre and movies of italian directors. They bleed emotions. Japanese added something to the game...nay they took away: censorship and hipocrisy. Every feeling or instinct is showed in japanese anime without shame. Bad, good, evil, pure, sadic, moving, cruel, bright, gross, love, hate ....all experiences are deeply embedded in stories and characters.
Calogero Huygens ...but how often do you see casual hugs or kissing? They're not big on PDA, but you get tired of so much of the draw being "will they/won't they." That's probably because so much anime is centered around those between the ages of 14 and 21, and I wish there were more revolving around adults. The last relationship manga I've legitimately loved was "Sing Yesterday for Me," and that's been slow-rolling for years.
I feel like im the only one that wasnt freaked out by her eyes in the trailer and thought it looked really cool lol. Also im defenetely gonna be reading this, it sounds and looks absolutely beautiful. Great video!
Assuming you have not found this yet: I don't know about where you live, but where I am getting the manga was a very slow and painful proccess, especially as the original run has been out of print for several years. Luckily a new collected run of that is being printed now so you can get a hold of that. Until you do though, you can read these masterworks online, on varying sites. The original Battle Angel Alita run is here - kissmanga.com/Manga/GUNNM Keep in mind, everything that happens after chapter 52 page 34 is not considered canon. Next is Last Order - www.mangareader.net/battle-angel-alita-last-order all good from start to finish, then the now ongoing Marsian Chronicles - fanfox.net/manga/gunnm_mars_chronicle/ Again getting a hold of the books have been hard for me, might be a lot simpler for you, but to be fair you may want to know if you like what you are about top buy first. If that is the case though and you DO like it, supporting the creator of the work is only fair :)
I thought it looked badass honestly. Plus they didn't give too much away in the trailer and keeps people who haven't read the manga from knowing much about it. I sincerly hope it does well in theaters.
It kinda bothers me just cause in the context of the manga she clearly has normally proportioned eyes. I get what they are going for, its cause she is like a doll, but I find it pretty distracting for a gritty sci-fi action film.
When I first saw the big eyes I was a bit aghast. The beautiful Rosa Salazar is about a close to a real life version of Alita as I could think of, and her eyes are already large and expressive enough. But I can see what they might be trying to do. I guess we will have to see how it turns out.
Dude , Thanks for making this video. You have afforded me insight and more importantly confidence for the future of Alita. I just saw the movie and really enjoyed it. It was obvious that there was more to her story and your video gives me hope that she will become a long lived and well loved character. Here's hoping that they stay true to your Alita.
Well i noticed Berserk as late as you noticed Gunnm. But iam pretty sure you saw it already but didnt noticed it worthy of taking a further look as i didnt take a further look into Berserk back then.
I always saw this manga in book stores back in the day. I always wanted to read it but never got around to it. So as someone who always wanted to check it out, I gave the movie a shot and loved it. Now I’m finally reading the manga and absolutely loving it. I purchased the deluxe edition collection for a physical copy and then bought digital versions from Amazon to read in my iPhone. I’m glad to finally be called a fan of this amazing manga, and I hope the new focus gives it a new anime series.
I first saw this video 2 months before the movie premiere. Today I have seen the movie twice, and found this video again. I love it more, and understand it better. And good news: JC and Rodriguez delivered!! BIG TIME! ALL YOUR EXPECTATIONS WERE FULFILLED, NICK.
it is worth it. Trust me like the video author i agree 100% alita is a really good story but only us few fans knew about it.... I am glad the movie is gonna come out soon but i am afraid of it failing ... still hope dies last so i will continue hoping.
I got the impression that the eyes are so big because she is from Mars, they all had big eyes in her squad in the flashbacks which means they have been made/evolved for marsian climate.
I think Alita is very beautiful and her eye are powerful. Like the black footed cat. A wild cat smaller that an house cat but very dangerous. I saw the manga and the 1980's-1990's Cartoon version and I loved it I think I must order this movie
Ah, Gally, my first fictional "crush". I strongly looked up to her as a person, I respected her (and still do, obviously), but of course, as a straight guy, I did feel some attraction to her too. Her journey touched me, I cried as she cried, smiled as she smiled and started fistpumping like a moron when she mentally pulled herself up again and found the inner strength to go on no matter the hardships. I do wonder how this affected me. I was already a teenager when I read the manga. Was she the first expression of my "preference", or did she help shape it? I know now I am often attracted to strong and intelligent women. I love it when a woman knows what she wants and has the stubborness to fight for it and the willingness to dirty her hands. I adore it when a woman is intellectually gifted, analytic and rational.The cute but dumb and naive type is definitely not for me. Gally maybe not be a genius girl, but she is bright and levelheaded, and she is the very definition of a strong and headstrong woman. As I grew older, my admiration for Gally never dwindled, but she did get the company of other, somewhat similar women: Sarah Connor, Makise Kurisu, Twilight Sparkle, Sailor Mercury, etc. But Gally will always be the first. Great video, an eloquent and very accurate explanation of why GUNNM is more than what can be seen at first glance in the trailer. GUNNM is very much an obscure manga, I hope people will give it the chance it deserves and not just stick to their preconceived notions and tropes.
Well if she doesn't need a man I guess you're out of luck! I also find it kind of hilarious that you guys have a leftist bias, since Gunnm has so many references to right wing philosophy and thought, hell it's pretty much right wing. The character is the paragon of Nietschean overman ethics, counter-balanced with Rousseauian philosophy set to a world where Platonic philosophy and Republican ideals are preeminent. Sorry to spoil it for you guys.
And exactly where is this idea of the Übermensch presented in a positive light? In case you didn't notice, GUNNM takes place in a dystopnian world, i.e. a hell on earth. For as little as it dabbles in the idea of Übermensch philosophy it clearly shows the cesspool of suffering and vileness which will be the result of such ultra-nationalist delusions. Gally herself even rejects the notion of the Übermensch as she, as a cyborg, is considered to be an Untermensch, as impure compared to the "100% flesh" people from Zalem. Ido, too, rejects that philosophy and that's why he is a cybernetic surgeon and has embraced Gally for who and what she is. Unlike other people from Zalem who live on the surface (like in "Another Stories") Ido even refuses to go back to Zalem. So clearly the series is not championing any right wing ideas, if anything it's a cautionary tale of where such delusions will lead to. And for the record, you're the one who connected the Republicans with fascistoid philosophy. I'm sure they'll be very happy to hear that.
Thinking of women who "don't need a man" as desirable is ironic, really. Well, what do you have to offer them if they're so independent? If you can't see your value to a romantic partner, you should probably reflect on yourself and move on...
I think you Otomic Ans don't understand the difference between need and want. Wouldn't you would rather have a woman who wants you over one who is forced because she needs to be with you. I'd rather be with a guy who wants me. I think you should reflect on yourself and how you view women. I don't need a man but I want to be with one. I'm not a child to be taken care of. If you have never been with a woman just because she wants to not because she needs to then I feel sorry for you. You don't know the joy of someone who loves you not because they have to but because they want to. I'm kind half asleep and I'm rambling. I think being with a needy person is too tiring. You asked what you have to offer an independent woman how about yourself or love. Wouldn't you like it if a woman was with you just for you and not what you can do for her? I think maybe there is something wrong with you and you need a needy girl because you are not enough for a woman. The big eyed born yesterday girl is easy over an independent woman because you have something over the born yesterday girl. I'm telling you if you have an equal partner who doesn't need you but just wants you, the feeling you have with that person is way better. I'm so tired and I'm sure this is a grammer and spelling mess. I really shouldn't care what you think but you views on women is so messed up I couldn't let it go. I hope you understand this but I'm pretty sure this being the internet you won't. Because having someone want you is the greatest feel in the world over feeling needed and I hope you get that feeling someday. if not what ever your a closed minded sexest pig so your lose.
It warms my heart to see this video again two years later! This is one of the videos that made me discover Gunnm when the teaser was released! Congratulations also for the success of this video!
Absolutely agree: Don’t Fuck It Up! I’m 45 and I grew up with Alita and have thought about it off and on for two decades. I have high hopes for this movie, particularly as the casting seems to be spot on. I’ll be extremely disappointed if this movie misses the mark.
TheHoodmailbox It does seem promising yes. At least the trailer was one of the most promising sci-fi/action trailers I have seen in a long time. Hopefully this movie will be as good as Mad Max 4.
amongst all the stories in this they stuck with shitty hugo story, that was only a springboard for her running away, and going her own way. But i guess they wont even show how Hugo dies, cause we need a happy ending am i rite? Trust me this one will be utter garbage, most generic parts of this awesome story molded into a coming off age story with romantic interest. Besides scratown doesnt look at all like the junkie infested cyber punk mess it is the books.
I am 50 and also was impacted by Battle Angel ever since i found the anime back in the 90's. Lets cross our fingers! Always did think the movie Elysium ripped a lot from Battle Angel at least that's what it felt like when i watched it.
Never heard about Battle Angel until I saw the movie trailer, love this breakdown of what sets it apart. Also my first time learning about the "born yesterday" trope which I can now never see as anything but creepy. lol
You forgot the "sexy" part in "born sexy yesterday", and I'm actually planning on playing this trope in one of my movies, because I want the artistic challenge of seeing if the trope can actually be done properly while still being played technically straight, without the creepiness explained in this video. By the way, I suggest you learn to eat only once per day [like I do, Dinner specifically]. You can save hundreds of dollars every month doing this. According to multiple independent experts, the slower metabolism caused by the OMAD diet helps you live longer.
@@TycoNewRC , word !!!!, Is that so ... Eat once a day huh....I heard about that b4 but I don't know...does that include snacks and candy, becoming a vegan or something ????
The difference is in what it _can_ include and what it *_should_* include. In my view, all of mankind should prefer be be vegan (the only exception I can think of is if you're a vegan farmer who needs livestock to fertilize crops, so you must eat the dead livestock so it doesn't go to waste) but veganism is not necessary. Snacks and candy can be a treat immediately after the one meal (Dinner) but not a separate eating process after the digestion process already happened from the Dinner.
I went to see the movie without knowing the manga or anything about it and I loved it so much. I'm now looking for a place where I can find this to read it :)
Watched the movie yesterday. It was amazing but i needed more. Wanted more info about the manga/storyline of Alita. Then i saw your vids about her and made me understand a lot more. Cant wait for the sequel!
"...please, PLEASE, don't fuck it up." I totally agree. I am super reluctant to see this movie because I know they ALWAYS mess something up. Like having Legolas in the Hobbit, or that elf chick, whatshername. Tauriel is not a Tolkien character!! and yeah, the eyes... why did they have to do that with her eyes? That wasn't Alita's most "striking" feature. It was/is her fighting ability! So literally, her most striking feature is her ability to strike. Anyway.. thumbs up!
Even though it’s an invention of Cameron or whatever, she was an “battle angel/Android” without people knowing and if nobody knew her they wouldn’t know that/see that as mentioned in the manga. That’s why the eyes are a silly choice in my own opinion (no, you people calling me a dumbass/bitch/whatever will not change my opinion). Edit: yes it’s a creative thing, but it doesn’t just give it justice because of that lol.
Brought a friend who hates anime with me to the theaters the second time I saw it, she loved it. So did my mother, who admittedly hates anime but likes that my sisters and I enjoy it. This movie was one that my whole family could watch and enjoy together, whether they liked anime or not. That alone should give it merit. Hell, most Disney movies can't even do that lol.
The movie review is out! This video you're watching is mainly an analysis and defense of the manga made in 2017 just after the first movie teaser dropped. Here's a review of the movie proper. th-cam.com/video/cCiefCg1z-w/w-d-xo.html
Yeahhh, TH-cam feed recommend me this video just now. Probably many more are coming.
Wait, so Ghost in the Shell loses points for being altered for a western audience, but Death Note gets points for being altered for a western audience?
@@TechnoMinarchist It gets points for actually having a POINT to make. Not much, though.
OK.
So, I never heard about Alita, until just recently, and all of the Sick Jackass Wackos (SJWs) attacking it, in favor of the crap marvel movie, captain marbles, and, then this came across my ewe-toob feed, so I watched it.
The funny thing, is, that the ewe-toob feed shows this video to have been put out about 1 year ago.
So, how did you get the trailers from a movie that just came out, rather recently, to put in a ewe-toob video 1 year ago ?!?
Don't get me wrong.
I will not be wasting my valuable time or money with the captain marbles, but, you have made me interested in the Alita movie.
Great Job !
@@MyButtsBeenWiped They dropped the first teaser for the film in December 2017. This video was a response to some weird hot takes at the time. I've seen the movie twice and loved it. I am ALSO going to see Captain Marvel because I think all this "anti-sjw" bellyaching is really weird and I think it should be okay for people to want to see both movies.
The movie was amazing. I watched it yesterday and hated when it ended. I wanted to see more.
Same!
MOVIE WAS SOOO DAM GOD !!!!!!!!!!!! I never wanted to say but YES IT WAS BETTER THEN AVANGERS AND AQUAMAN !!!!!
Cameron said he would make it a trilogy if the first movie has good reception; lets see if this happens. You should read the manga in the meantime; was the first manga I read and totally loved it.
The only bad thing was they cast a doofus as her boyfriend. It was more important to them to hire a "nobody" than to get somebody good.
Same I hated how I couldn’t see more I wanted to see whether she would make it to Zalem and kill Nova
Anybody else out there who doesn't think the eyes are that terrible.
I think they cute in my opinion.
Nightmare Fanatic I get why they’re like that and appreciate it, but you can’t deny it falls into the “uncanny valley” and is a little bit odd
I love them it really made the manga come to life for me
I really didn't have any problem with them.
Her eyes are what made her different and unique... In my opinion she was beautiful.. And Rosa Salazar did a great job.. Even the critics are highliting Rosa's work as the highest point. I definitely recommend this movie
Just saw this movie, and it's a dream come true. Working on a review right now!! Expect it to go up over the weekend if not sooner!
I couldn't agree more. I loved this film. Gah.
As a fan since the mid 90s I have to say I loved it. Just saw it tonight. I'm glad they took notes from all the sources. The casting options were great. The eyes, I think there was a more logical explanation based on her origin for the larger eyes.
Robert and James did it justice imo.
Nick on Planet Ripple ayeee sameee !
I’m... so split on this movie. it’s beautiful and there’s so much to love, but it’s almost TOO pretty. I wanted it to be much, much darker... the protagonists aren’t utterly broken inside like in the manga, and the intensity of their drive just isn’t there. It’s still a terrific effort, but I waited for 10 years for James Cameron to make it, and I can’t help thinking he would have made it much better. Gunnm is just too important for me to feel satisfied with this version, as much as I respect the effort. The scrapyard is too nice, and Hugo too much teen dreamboat and not enough desperate scrapyard rat. That ending is sooo iconic to me, and in the film I just didn’t feel it. Sigh. Still glad it got made, but... what could have been...
Yes I loved it too man! And great video
Just saw it, and honestly i never seen a alita comic, and this movie just made me a fan.
Jammineyeonline me too
me too ♡
Alita is a old anime and a manga which is basically a comic from Japan.
BattleAngelFan it became my favorite movie of all time too! I had waited for it for 15 years because James Cameron was making it, saw it three times in the theater! Finished reading the first manga series a few days ago.
@@martinpetersson4350 Get it in 3D
Rotten Tomatoes critics gave it a 60.
The Ghost in the Shell was a total failure. Alita is fantastic!! Rodriguez got it right!! The casting was spot on. Rosa sold it. I am not a shill. I hated Ghost in the Shell, and was afraid that this would be another screw up. The critics can suck it . . . they thought Ghostbusters reboot was great . . . what does that tell you. Alita is totally worth watching.
I think critics look at cinema as if it is science. It is not! A movie either works or not! It does not have to have a sophisticated plot to work. It can have flaws but still be an amazing and magical experience. Especially if you think of kids or teens experiencing a movie - they just might really like it and they do not perceive it from critics perspective. But not only they, just the average movie goer. Almost every time when critics really love a movie I do to, like the last jedi and drive, but recently more and more often I really enjoy movies that critics do not like. Alita is a really strong example, as it is an amazing movie. Another one is venom, from recent movies.
The same types who praised ghost busters reboot love this movie because it's a girl kicking ass.
@@Grchman actually, it's kinda the opposite. Those that hate it seem to think its stealing from captain marvels debut. At least lots of the articles seem to be angled that way.
@AntiangelRaphael Totally agree with your GITS sentiments.
Rotten Tomatoes ended up a total failure :p
I'd never heard of Alita Battle Angel before the trailers, but I had no idea that it was based in Anime. Though being an avid anime fan, the large eyes didn't phase me, or make me think she was a blow-up sex doll or some such. I looked beyond the obvious, and saw something I genuinely enjoyed. Though the Combat aspect of it really caught my attention also. I can't wait for this movie, but now that I know there's a Manga, I will be checking it out for myself.
This is something I heard about a lot during the early 00s when anime magazines like Animerica and Anime Insider not only talked about the Manga and anime a lot, but the fact that James Cameron was wanting to adapt it. I never actually thought it was actually going to get made.
To be accurate it’s based on a Manga, the anime only covers the first chapter in the series. After BAA it extends into BAA: Last Orders which blows out a new macro universe (literally) of the back history.
lol i read the manga when i was in high school so its pretty old but its nice to see it as a movie.
@@kevinlau952
There's also Mars Chronicles after, btw ;)
What i've seen sofar from the trailers has really impressed me and i'm really looking forward to actually go watch it
Forget the next sequel of Avatar. James Cameron should focus on Alita!
I HOPE SO, WE GOT ALLADDIN AS THE NEW AVATAR :V
dude the fuck was that movie... holy moly...i'm in love with that movie, Rosa Salazar was AMAZING
He wants to so bad.
I just came back from the cinema, they movie is great. It really needed 20 more minutes and there were things at the end of the movie that did not make sense to me but now that I watched your video they do. Thank you!
Same here!!!!
I think many people dun understand why Hugo need to do so... and why the story end like this, (me same) but after i checked the information and read the first two chapters of the manga after the movie, i know this is just the beginning journey of Alita, and wht happened to Hugo will affect the character of Alita
Yeap but to be fair they opened that cliffhanger to a sequel. I kinda hated the casting for Hugo but the rest was actually fine. Nova appearing last second was a lil weird.
Theres going to be a second one if that answers your question.
They just needed 5-10 minutes more. To set up the things better in the ending arc. The ending feels too rush, but overall the movie is good.
I saw the movie a few hours ago. I really enjoyed it. The action, acting, and visuals were superb.
Editing a review right now.
Totally agree, the action was phenomenal and the plot twists kept us on our toes.
ChocoftheCharts agreed.. dialogue is awful tho.
@@doopydoody4809 Thank you... I thought I was alone in thinking that.
Yeah it was visual bliss and the few action scenes we got were nothing short of amazing... But the love story was forced and took WAY too much of screen time and the dialogue was just absolutely terrible, felt like it was made for teenage girls. Still a pretty ok experience, hopefully we get a sequel thats better.
The movie is the shits people, 9-14 bucks well spent.
Go, go watch it now, it needs all the support it's gonna get and it's nice to see that they finally got it right.
Woow!!! Watching a movie in the US costs at least 9 bucks? Here in México is just about 3 dollars in a good cinema.
Ps: The movie is the best live-action manga adaptation I've ever seen.
In Australia I'm paying like $20 to go to the movies.😑
@@peskymacaw9033 as a Mexican, I can confirm this. I pay 2 bucks because of student discount!
How does mexican and austrailian money compare to american money on the exchange? Might actually be similar price eben though it sound like a big difference. Either way, still worth the price!
Unneeded wasted word
Extremely insightful and descriptive commentary on a complex subject. Bravo.
Thank you. It's almost impossible to talk about this sort of thing without someone calling you a "cuck."
Total Agree
Yes, Thx for taking the time break it down. Very informative! Movie looks awesome imo
Agreed.
@@NickonPlanetRipple I'm usually on the side that makes fun of the brainwashed and co-opted feminists and SJW types, but it's hard to argue against the fact that Hollywood really does make us swallow a lot of shallow and immature tropes about women, to the point that they've all become sickeningly cliche; So many people still think The Fifth Element was a great sci fi film, so its refreshing to see someone point out how "creepy" the whole thing really is in how it treats Leeloo like a loser's sex trophy... But it's even more fascinating to see such a clever counter to that formula coming from a 30+ year old cartoon/comic created by a culture that still retains such old-fashioned views on gender roles and behaviors.
seen it 3 times as of typing this....got a winner here folks
GEMINIVice1 what a waste of time and money. Once was enough for me
"Nobody knows what Battle Angel is except Battle Angel Fans" Hell Yeah to that!!!!
I'm swiss and found the 1st 9 Volumes in a Box back in 2000. it was one of the first Mangas I bought, I was 9 years old back then, looks like we have the same age^^, and it still holds it's number one place on my shelves.
I never met anyone else here that even knew or had heard of it.
It was also what made me learn martial arts. I'm a teacher of that now and living my idol.
Alita/Yoko and her universe of characters shaped my youth to a great extent, I was bullied quite a lot back then through a lack of social skills and she taught me to get back up.
I also love James Cameron and his movies, avatar specifically. and I was more than happy to learn in 2012 that he actually planned to turn MY FAVOURITE Manga into a Film. I found that really old interview with him and Yukito Kishiro back then where they discuss a possible movie. I have been fangirling since then.
I also really like the points you bring up here, the sexist/Child ones, I've never seen it from that angle but I can totally agree. I was furious right along with her back then.
To your last question: yes it makes sense, completely.
Thank you very much for summing this up, and making this Clip. I think it was really necessary. Thank you!!!!!! :D
The more I think about it, it's kinda like when a parent remarries and you get to know your step siblings. It doesn't take long to feel "safe" around them cause you don't have to worry about them ever asking for anything like "that" from you. It's funny how humans can also feel this way about completely fictional characters, as if they are a family member or you wish they could be. For them to be there for you, a support system.
Also, your story is powerful. Damn. Probably the best thing that can result from exposure to this comic.
Yes, I will forever be thankful to Yukito Kishiro Sensei for creating this work in the insane amount of detail and continuing it for so long.
I think to an extent those characters sometimes feel more real to me than actual people. Especially Alita since she has been around for so long. And her emotions are raw and real to me. I can always relate. especially the part where she says: "whatever my arms can reach, in this space I am invincible." That sentence has stuck with me.
I also thought Kishiro-Sensei was really brave to go through with the idea that Alita in Last Order was "just a chip" and not her brain so not actually "her".
I had introduced some people to it back then and many of them stopped reading it when this fact was revealed, they felt betrayed. I did too at first but I also thought, just because it isn't her, doesn't make the experiences I went through while reading it less real, it also doesn't make her less real. So I stuck with it and as always it only got better.
Thank you very much for replying and all the best to you! I also hope for an awesome fun experience in the theaters this year. To be honest I will be happy with whatever I get. I mean, it's Alita in Colour!! I just hope I don't have to keep trying to defend it from the mass media....
Maybe more of my friends will read it though? Who knows.
Ps: this is the first of your videos I have seen so forgive me I don't know your usual content yet.
I mostly talk about games or other products I feel are underappreciated and want to share the things I like about them. I don't much care for "angry" reviews, I focus more on the positive and on theming. I do this pretty sporadically though, since a lot more of my time goes towards my own comic series called "Planet Ripple." I'm autistic, so I made a story about a girl with autism (her name is Minnow), using tried and true scifi concepts as metaphors for hers and others' struggles. Going to release volume 3 for print in a month if things go well.
Thank you for explaining, I really like your optimistic approach to things. It's not very common.
I am definitely going to read your Comic-Series now. Seems I can get it here. Crossing my fingers that it will work out :)
You can read the entire first volume (albeit an early version of it that I made numerous minor tweaks to when reformatting it for print) for free if you're curious. There's links to all the pages in the archive section of my website, planetripple(dot)com. It's about 150 long, divided into eight chapters.
This is the reason you go watch a movie in the cinema. It's so cool. I want to go see it again.
This is a wonderful video, I am so impressed by your ability to drill down the reasons why audience connects to certain characters and how movies are designed for us to do so. The amount of psychological analysis in this video is over the roof. Just WOW!
Thank you! I did my best.
Watched it.
A fantastic movie.
yep
Fantastic???? Idk about that
dreamnightmares1986 it was better than fantastic. It was amazing
already saw the film. they got it right this time trust me. this is coming from a huge comic, anime, and manga fan.
oh yeah? Gunnm is a philosophical ,existential questionning master piece to be sitting next to A Brave New World, only with a lot more. Where is all that in the movie? Where is the scrapyard? Where is the brutal constant immorality that contrasts so well with the beautiful yet politically not correct philosophical insights and questioning of both Nova, Ido, Gally and the main enemies? I come to realize a lot of fans didn't read the manga the way the writer did wrote it, but only enjoyed the battles, the fights and the panzer kuntz techniques while these are only side dishes of the story's existential goal and depth... Gunnm adapted into Battle Angel Alita is like adapting a Mad Max into a twilight movie. It's an heresy.
Just one question, how many series does the film go through? Can I expect a sequel?
Okay, thats 2
I'm not entirely sure you originally quite caught the extent and depth of the "philosophy and existential questioning" of Yukito Kushiro in the manga if you find yourself able to say that (which also extends to bioengineering at some high levels)...I mean, it goes as deep as digging the "quantum mind", social thermodynamics principles, Nietzsche's Nihilism and such, and he literally mentions them at some point to better guide readers because he doesn't leave it to so much interpretation, his clues are guidance, not fancy words for the show (which seems to be only that for you in the manga)... The movie was intentionally, that I figured after reading more (mooore) of the Cameron-Rodriguez-Kishiro collaboration, made simpler to give the opportunity for a wider audience to get on board, just like the GUNNM ANIME was, just any big screen, adaptation is (remember the 1984 fiasco?). Just like anything that has ever been popularized actually, it has to get through some simplification-process for the wider audience to not get lost in the intellectuality of it. And anything that is simplified is then over-simplified by most of an audience who then interprate the art piece as... anything they want. And that doesn't do justice to the beautiful mind of Yukito Kishiro.
Also something quite simple you quite don't catch: Mad Max. Since GUNNM more than obviously was inspired by Mad Max (amongst other influences), try and get rid of the vile humanity of the world of Mad Mzx, and see if it still stands strong together on the screen with the same meaning and the same story and the same understanding and feel from the audience :). Same with Gunnm's world. It isn't the happy, joyful, enthusiatic world that is portrayed in the movie, it only "says" it's evil, but looks nothing evil. It's colorful, always sunny, sparkling and feels like a world I'd gladly be a part of. The original scrapyard is a place so vile I was scared to shit living near anything close or far from what it is, when I discovered the books at age 12.
Take music, take an original complex track. if you move, alterate, change the background, the harmonies, but only keep a so-called structure with a couple of original phrases and intervals of the original theme, you get a new song, only with glimpse and influences of the original one which has been re-interpreted. Btw I'm saying this with the idea that you already understand the difference between lyrics and music. A word's meaning has no meaning in music, only the music conveys words through emotions, words only are aggregates to a track's theme for the general popular public who mistakes music with sung poetry. Saying this as the academically and professionally trained musician I am.
I LOOOOVED Alita. Such a brilliant movie! Honestly, I hadn't expected it to be this good!
Get ready for my movie review, it should be up tonight.
@@NickonPlanetRipple Where???
@@jimbolic0809 Fox keeps blocking it worldwide the instant it finishes uploading. I keep having to fiddle around with it and spend another 8 hours uploading it. It's torture.
@@NickonPlanetRipple I've looked though your channel and am really looking forward to watching it. Hopefully it works out.
Battle Angel is so special to me. When I first read this it I hated it as a kid, but after I was in the army as an adult and read through it again I started to get it. It’s an underrated story and I think all people would love it when they reach certain age
I’ve been a reader and fan of this manga for around 26 years. Yeah I’m old and I love what they did with the film. It needs to make serious money so he can keep these coming.
darchangeldavid did the manga also have a stupid love story in It? Because I was not expecting that. Would have rather it was just all action
@@StAnger561to770 yes and the reason Hugo is in the movie because it makes ALITA that much more of a badass in the mangas and hopefully in the sequel. Read the Mangas and find out why Hugo had to be in the Movie. It's called character development
@@Tabooza it's a movie. Why should I read anything. It was an ok movie but they should make a part 2.
@Lawreil9 yeah sure whatever. If they never make a part two then they just left everyone hanging. And i dont like it when movies do that.
@Lawreil9 i would go see the sequel. Overall it was an ok movie
Just watched Alita and I strongly recommend it.. the character or Alita is likeable and well developed the world building is nicely plotted. The visuals are great! definitely needs to be successful because a sequel has a potential for a great payoff just off the world building.
you should read the manga, her character development is a rollercoaster but amazingly well written and good, plus its expansion on the genre of cyberpunk is great too.
My friend, this video was wonderful. As a fellow lifelong fan of Battle Angel Alita, it's wonderful hearing such well articulated opinions. Thank you.
Thank YOU!
It's also important, because it's the first Hollywood made live action adaptation of an anime that was good.
I saw the movie yesterday and without knowing anything about the comic book I enjoyed it immensely. And I agree with everything you said. It did start out as that suspect trope, but she quickly evolved out of it. A great story.
Made it to half a million! Thanks for the continued support. Expect a review of the film once it's released.
I watched this the other day, and I was thinking about how you put down the whole falling in love with a guy because he's the first guy she's seen after her memory wipe. Born Sexy Yesterday trope. However, isn't first potential love interest being the one the person ends up with is the norm? A recent example of this comes from the constant stream of iksei stories that are coming about. Here we have a stream of ordinary Japanese men, thrust into a new world they know nothing about, and literally the first girl the guy meets is almost always the main love interest. Even if the girl is also exceptional in her own way, the fact is that the ikeai tends to be some sort of god tier person that could easily find someone else, but that's the first person he met in this new world, so that's who he ends up with.
@@tomaO2 Oooooh believe me, I'm sick of that genre too. Isekai has taken the anime world by storm because it basically plops the viewer into that scenario with self-insert protags.
@@tomaO2 and @Nick I first encountered the term "born Sexy Yesterday" for the trope described in th-cam.com/video/0thpEyEwi80/w-d-xo.html by Pop Culture Detective, who claims he give the trope the name. I wonder if that is where the term taken from because PCD is uncredited with no citation.
@@rasaecnai Well, yeah. He gave the trope a name, and now it's become a broader thing that other people reference. He didn't say I had to credit him? I wasn't aware that I was supposed to? He actually appreciated this video.
Anime
Seriously, why does Hollywood ALWAYS feel the need to DUMB DOWN all the nuances, sophistication, and multilayered anime story/characters to one dimensional, over-simplified, characters, black and white story line? As if the western audience is incapable to understand or appreciate the above? SAY IT AIN'T SO!
That's indeed what they think.
There's also a throng of shallow "influencers" that give bad reviews to anything deeper than a cookie tray. That's why media comenters like Nick here should be cherished.
Hollywierd generally feels they can reach a wider audience if they pander the largest denominator.
Thats not allways the highest level In Short $$.
there not into this to lose.
vhtriyok because they have to jam in the tropes who „worked“ over the years somewhere
Because "entertaining" sells better than "intelligent"... I cannot tell you how many people I've talked to that calls deep movies "boring" while there are sequels after sequels of simple action-packed movies made and watched. Sorry to break it to you, but maybe most Americans ARE stupid, or at least they're into stupid stuff.
Old school female fan of the manga here. Teared up a bit near the end when you talked about your background and this character. I too related to her in that way.
Thank you!
it is heartwrenching,and i too teared up in hugo last moment scene
Just saw it, blew even my high expectations
I didn't had any expectations other than recommendations from my friends, but that was almost worthless because I thought it was another weird weeb thing. The big eyes creeped me out. But Im glad I thought that way, because it blew me away and caught me with my pants down lol. Didn't expect that good of a movie. Amazing.
Hell, Battle Angel was one of the first anime I ever watched as a teen in the 90's. It was one of the reasons I even got into Anime in the first place! To me it's a classic.
Same here along with Doomed Megalopolis, Akira, 3x3 Eyes, Ninja Scroll, Fist of the North Star, Dominion Tank Police, Oedo 808, Patlabor(s), Project A-Ko, Appleseed ('95) and GitS, all back then in the day.
skins4thewin same here! Seeing it came to life put tears 😭 in my eyes!
I just watched it today and it was AMAZING. I fell inlove with Alita's character. I need to see the part2.😍
Joi-Joi XD
Fell in love with her when she tried chocolate for the first time and went to the skate park.
We just watched it last week (twice, in fact, as my girlfriend came round the following evening demanding we watched it again!) and fell in love with her (and Ido!) in the first 5 minutes.
I just saw this and omg it was amazing can’t wait for the sequel if we get one
I think Rob announced there will be one
I kind of like how they made her relationship with ido to being more like a daughter in the movie instead of a doll.
Same.
So in the movie she's more of a daughter and in the comics a doll ? What was she originally created for ?
@@l.b6906 She was born on mars, grew up in a war torn land and became part of an interplanetary terrorist organization that trained her how to fight. It was a a messed up life she had before.
guess we'll find out her back story if they make a sequel hopefully, that ending needs one anyway XD@@l.b6906
Just saw the new trailer and I am SO EXCITED. I was a little worried for a while, but it's looking better and better. Even the eyes. Can't wait. In the meantime, welcome first time viewers!
Wanna make a follow up video? Maybe you have new things to say. I'll watch it.
Not sure.
This is more like a father and offspring dynamic.
It the core, yes. But that gets compounded with other things that throw a wrench in that dynamic and make it less than healthy at points. That's not a criticism, that's just a part of the story.
I echo @rcfrandsen's request and would LOVE to watch your analysis or review of the brand new trailer.
Also, James Cameron, Robert Rodriguez, Jon Landau & Rosa Salazar have streamed a 40+ minutes very insightful (I think) Live Q&A today. Would you like to comment on what you hear and picked up from that discussion?
th-cam.com/video/pYwjokFLKx4/w-d-xo.html
P.S. Thanks a lot for your analysis in this video. Love to hear more from long time manga fans of Alita: Battle Angel like you! Very cool!
Alita is so precious to me...for the exact reasons you outlined here. I am happy to have listened to this video.
I originally wasn’t going to see this movie on the theater, just wait for it to come out on dvd, but my best friends sisters wanted to see it and I told them I’d take them. And boy I’m glad I did! It was an amazing movie with a great story and I can’t wait for a sequel.
Didnt dissapoint. Emotionally connected. Graphics and action was awesome! Youll fall in in lovr with Alitas character.
i'm crying after hearing your reasoning about this movie\original concept..
i'm 36 years old and Alita was, and still is the best story i've ever ever ever read..
And it's still going strong. I'm loving the back story on mars
@@Lacaud1 I might be a few behind you then. Waiting for vol19
just saying: In movies there is always messages in movies that most people overlook and watch movies for entertainment, There is much more to a story then just a movie...
Threatening the natural order of things ? Look where the world is today Just what is the Natural order of thing's Indoctrinated into a society of the way they want us to believe? It sure isn't mankind's ways. The Natural Order of things on Planet Earth was before Mankind came to be. From the beginning mankind took from everyone, Pillaged, Killed, Genocide, wars, famine, for land and power... For what, Really just for what? why do humans have to create Chaos and kill one another to get what they want, why do certain people have to parade to try and make a statements that are fabricated in their own minds, hrc, pelosi, chucky. obozo trying to sell a false narrative, Yet the sheeple and msm eat it up and run with it just for ratings even if it is a lie. Natural order of things? This planet was loaned to us, It isn't ours to desecrate and destroy nature and the air we breath but with the greed it's coming to an end and it's survival and these days a huge percentage of humans can't even build a campfire without the aid of matches or a bic. When one sits back and sees the so called order of things it just makes one sick when you look around, even the continued spying on everyones computers, THAT was the reason for windows 10. so they can see what everyone is up to... 1984 was a story Not a manual...
Try Berserk it's just as great if not better
Then you haven’t read Harry Potter. 😉 (lol sry that’s basic Ik but I seriously loved the story and it changed my life. However, I have read this and it was a great book 👍)
Very well put. I went into the theater completely ignorant of the Battle Angel manga or anime so I was an empty slate. What I saw was mesmerizing. The production design was greatly influenced by the art styles of the late 70's and 80's, the years I grew up. Whatever concerns you had about the movie not doing well can now be dispelled. Last I checked it has made over 370 million worldwide and I've read comments on TH-cam channels with people saying they've already seen it up to 5 times (or even more), it's only once in a great while a film has such an effect on people. I just viewed an interview with Rosa Salazar where she said she walked into a coffee shop and was recognized as Alita even before the movie was released. Huge numbers of people will deeply appreciate this rare gem of a movie. Word is spreading and the numbers bear it out. Hopefully it clears half a billion and will lead to sequels.
Woah woah woah, this is. . . predatory ish?
Alita: "I want to be a warrior"
Father: "Don't be stupid, you don't know what you're saying. I didn't give you limbs do things like this(referring to being a warrior) you don't have to work, all you have to do be beautiful. If you want money. . ."
Alita then says something pertaining to the invigorated feeling of fighting for justice.
Father: "You don't know what your saying I don't want you soiling your perfect head with bloodshed"
Alita: "Do you think I'm just some doll for you to play with?"
Tell him Alita, get it. 👏👏🌺
Now you know why I love her. Well, one of many reasons.
@@jeremiazdegavel1073 or maybe he is tired of being seen as weak just because he doesnt want to be a predatory douche
@@ingridbjrnstad4763 no
not being funny all i see in this picturing men as creepy weirdos and women as strong
A father telling his child that he didn't pay for a university education just so they could have their head bashed in in front of an audience (in a boxing match).
That's how I read the situation, nothing predatory about it. The biggest difference being that Alita will be in far greater danger, both physically and psychologically.
After more than 10 years expecting Alita: Battle Angel I can say that it was more than worth it. I never read the manga so I didn't know what to expect but rarely does a film come around that is unique in its balance of new & classic, meaningful & enjoyable in its fast-paced excitement. I watch a lot of movies and rarely do I feel like that after a movie. For me Alita captures the magic of cinema. It is better than avata and almost up there with the matrix and if a trilogy gets made it might get even better than the matrix at the end. I think James Cameron and Robert Rodriguez and all the actors did a rarely great job. I saw it on my own and cannot wait seeing it again several more times with my wife and friends :)))
Vesselin Iossifov several more times??? Lol. That is funny and hard to believe
@@StAnger561to770 why ? seen it 3 times now and would see it again if it was in a cinema anywhere near me ,,and i can't wait till may for the blu-ray release ,, Alita definitely has a certain quality you don't find in most movies ,, perhaps it's because so many people working on and in the move are fans of the manga ,, perhaps it's the casting, lots of big names but your watching a character not a star ,, perhaps it's Rosa Salazar`s amazing performance as Alita ,, this is the first movie i have seen in years that when it ended i just wanted them to change reels and show part 2
blacksnow150 nah man. This movie was not worth seeing a 2nd time. Barely worth seeing once.
@@StAnger561to770 whatever dude ,thats your opinion , nobody is twisting your arm to watch it and your not liking it makes zero difference to my enjoyment of the movie so what's your point ? you don't like it ! am i meant to give a fuck ?
@@blacksnow150 meh. It wasn't that good. you seem to be all man overboard for this film,
Thank you so much, I really cannot express my appreciation for you making this video except for showing it to every single person I know. This was a masterful way of expressing every single thing I've wanted to say in my unheard and not understoood private high hopes for this movie. It meant a lot to me as growing up and it felt something awful not being able to have it be understood on why. You did it all here. And I want to say thank you so much.
Thank you for believing in Alita since the start. I was a big skeptical when they released the 1st trailer but after the 2nd and the 3rd I was hyped af for this film. And I just watched it yesterday on Valentine with my boyfriend and Jesus we both loved it so much. Rosa's performance and other actors are fanstatic. The visual is stunning and fight scenes are spectacular.
Definitely recommend to all people. Please don't let this film flop, it deserves attention and commercial success.
Working on a review of the movie right now.
I actually love the eyes
I like the anime esque eyes too. ~~
To be fair the actress already has pretty big eyes so they could have left them alone but they grew on me because she isnt human in the typical fashion.
@@Lacaud1 agreed on that conclusion 👍
Same here, Sodafreakdrawing. The eyes snagged my attention immediately, and to me they don't look _creepy_ but rather _innocent._ The look alone says this is a naive girl trying to find her way in a world she doesn't understand, which is something I can relate to (except as a boy instead of a girl).
I'd never heard of the anime before seeing the trailer for the movie, and really I'm not that interested in anime at all - but what her eyes represent to me might make this the first movie I watch in a theater since Return of the King.
Me too that’s what makes her special no one else has done that before
That really short Death Note analysis made a lot of sense.
I love Alita so much. After Berserk it’s my fave manga. She’s such a role model to keep pushing and fighting and that no one is perfect. She’s the best female protagonist I’ve ever had the pleasure to know. I wish more people would give the manga a chance.
Can you imagine a PG-13 Berserk movie? Pretty pointless.
Is very hard to get here, plus I read that after Figure 4 there are like two endings.
Same here! Berserk and Battle Angel are my two all time favorites. Heres hoping they will do Alita's incredible character justice 🙏😬
I kinda wanna read it but it sounds really long im still willing 2 tho
@@yum8666 Berserk? Don't worry, you have plenty of plenty of time to finish it. In fact, with the amount of hiatuses Miura takes, your kids might be in college by the time it reaches it's conclusion.
This was a brilliant analysis. I had never heard of Alita b4, but the series sounds intriguing n I'll check it out. It kinda reminds me of Astro Boy.
Indeed! It's right up there with Astro Boy in terms of quality and importance, in my book.
They address different issues though. Astroboy is about parenthood and duty, a Pinocchio tale. Alita is more about who I am, where do I come from and where does it take me. And you need to be a bit lectured to read it... lots of technical terms, philosophical, come and return in the series. psychological...
I agree. I said quality and importance... that doesn't mean they share the same themes.
Give it ago. I watched the OVA first then I went to a local comic shop and found the volumes. The rest is history.
I read the online releases but I do buy the volumes when they release too.
I highly recommend it. To me the manga tells the tropes of what makes one alive and human, wtih the cyborgs, their brains, and creators who make them. It kinda is like Astro Boy in that regard, as alot of manga creators touch on that core.
I had never heard of Alita, until I heard the lousy reviews for this movie. Fortunately, I heard a dissenting review, that intrigued me enough to check it out. I was marginally aware of manga, in general, so I was ambivalent, but open minded about the movie. I watched all of the trailers, and was blown away. I got a ticket for a premium showing, and was really glad I did. The movie ended looking like there might be a sequel, an *man!* I sure hope so!
This is such a brilliant break down of the series, i really love how you showed all these different parts of it! I watched the movie recently and it's so amazing! This video has gotten me interested in the manga even more now as well because i dont want to wait on the next movies to see more of this story!
Born sexy yesterday is the cousin to manic pixie dream girl
OrcoDevelopment pop culture detective has an excellent video on BSY
SuperWolfkin, does pop culture detective's video explain as to whether or not BSY can actually be done properly while still being played technically straight, without all the problems this video points out?
TycoNewRC I don't remember him offering alternatives, though I may be wrong. You should just watch the video anyway though. I promise it is good.
Hey man, randomly checked out the trailer for Alita today. Then I decided to follow up and watch this video! I really like it. You did a great job here analyzing tropes in movies and how directors and writers pander to certain audiences.
10/10 great video
Thank you!
Movie looks lit af (hopefully it's good. Please be good)
Funny thing about this trailer for me... I had never heard of the character. I don't read Manga, but I like the art style. I'm closing in on 60 so my exposure to Japanese animation and cartoons is old Astro Boy, Space Battleship Yamato, and Captain Harlock... but watched on a french language channel, I don't speak french so all I could do was watch and fill in the story myself.
So... what's my point? I saw the first trailer and got hooked on the look and idea of the story immediately. I'm going to be picking up the books as soon as I can. Funnier is that because I have no real history with the genre, I didn't even see the Adult to Child/Adult plaything aspect of the trailer. To me it was about the hero's journey aspect. Yes it felt a lot like 'Buffy' but that's ok. It's a good thing. I like that story and am looking forward to seeing how it plays out in a culture different from my own. Anyway, looking forward to the movie, looking forward to getting the books. An Alita fan in the making. ;)
I'd say the series is right up there with the likes of Astro Boy. Have fun.
Although shorter in content, more adult themed & technically detailed and graphic (but not in an out and out xxx adult way), I would recommend the 3 OVA's of *Cyber City Oedo 808* done/dubbed by Manga Entertainment UK Ltd too.
It is complete with some of the best 80s/90s voice actors of the original cyberpunk era such as Sean Barrett, Stuart Milligan, Nigel Greaves, Daniel Flynn and the late Bob Sherman etc, with the aptly emotive and fitting rockish music to boot.
another series with human qualities and progressions, with well though stories and novel settings/plots, are *Planetes* and *Jormungand*
Before some other commentators jump on me for saying dubs and subs;
I do like original language subs (subtitles) as they can & do impart more original intent and meaning from a different viewpoint as originally desired, but sometimes to be fair, great dubs can bring that extra pazazz instead of detracting from the original bad dubbing [cough cough Akira..] when they are done well with understand non-relatedly yet similar tropes and ideoms that must be conveyed differently to have the same intent & effect.
Not all subtitles are well translated, sometimes even the original studio prefer the dubbed version(s) too [cough cough Hellsing & Hellsing Ultimate].
P.S. I had to add just this on the end; *Band-Maid!!*
Incredible dissection of what this anime represents for so many fans and also of how it’s relatable to so many others and not just females. As one of the original fans of the 2 episode mini film, and an 80’s and 90’s anime fan, I’m glad to see your comment that you enjoyed the new movie and am looking forward to not lowering my expectations for it! Also, looking forward to seeing your review for it. This is the first time I’ve come across your channel and I subscribed immediately 👍🏼
No pseudo-intellectualism, actual good points, subscribed.
It's not often you find another battle angel alita fan and you doing this video has brought me some hope so I'll go check it out thanks
When I saw the trailer I cried.
THIS IS GONNA BE EPIC
I had chills on my spine when i saw It I love this anime and manga. For years and have waited to see this come true
Same.
Even though i never seen the anime or manga i am hyped for it including spiderman into the Spider Man into The Spiderverse,Bumblebee, and Aquaman so i will see this on opening day or weekend
Psychedelic Peach did u literally cry??
@@Bryce_C. it's an expression
I just stumbled upon this after seeing the movie the other night at a preview.
I think you're going to love it.
This video made me appreciate it even more.
Ghost in the shell was so visually stunning, i was so dissapointed by the story, it could have been so much more.
I wonder how much better GITS would have been if they hadn't cut out almost 30 minutes that involved Pazu?
definitely delivers. Very loyal to the source material and expertly adds on to it to really flesh out a complete, faithful, and overall awesome story
Loved the movie. Your analysis here is what got me excited about seeing it. Thank you for making this.
Kind of weird hearing Ghost in the Shell used as an example of bad adaptation due to drastically altering the tone and characters considering that's exactly what the 1995 movie did to the manga.
The movie was good.. i was very happy with it. Cant fault it.. it did follow the anime movie story though.
I wish i got the swagger to be a player so i wont have to watch it alone lol
I've watched the movie yesterday and it was just great. Fortunately they didn't "Hollywooded" it and you can feel the atmosphere of manga and anime. One thing (and you mentioned it) it's a little bit too clean - I don't need to be like District 9 mess but I haven't felt it is difficult place to live. But really strong 4/5 and I hope for sequel :)
Yukito Kishiro is for me like an Isaac Asimov of Japanese sci-fi. I am a fan of Alita since 1991. The commentary of Rick on Planet Ripple is accurate and balanced. It does not try to dogmatically explain why things are in Japanese culture as they are. Yukito's post-apocalyptic view is one of a kind, where he draw us face to face with the situations of being human and the human nature of our own desires and expectancy. How can a cyborg replicate those codes? Alita has a shocking way to one of the possible answers. Thank you.
Man I LOVE that you referenced the born sexy yesterday trope. Awesome video!
I don't understand how rotten tomatoes can have 60% ratings on this. I just got done watching a cam at half quality and I think they killed it. And I feel this way having seen it looking only half of what it should be. I can't see anyone else taking this graphic novel and doing as good of a job as James Cameron. As usual you can't trust the reviews on there because this was a good movie.
Maybe because they take the philosophical parts out of the film and replace it mostly with just action? Every single anime-into-film adaptation sucks and sucks in the same way.
Kenneth. If you think it was awesome please go buy a ticket and watch on the big screen. Totally worth it, and it will help make the next movie happen.
The answer is simple. Either don't make a film adaptation in the first place or make it 3 hours long.
That's the weakest counter-argument I've read in my entire life.
It's a weak argument because me watching or not watching it is not gonna change the fact that it could've been a better adaptation but isn't. How is that hard to understand?
That 3rd group you mentioned - i am totally in it as i knew of Battle Angel Alita but had never seen the anime or read the manga. I wanted to see this from the first time i saw the trailer and i have seen the movie - it was amazing! I ordered the box set of the original manga as well as the movie prequel novel and movie novelizations (which i just got in today).
“it’s a weird time to be a battle angel fan...”
largest understatement of 2019
Yukito Kishiro was 19 when he started working on Gunnm.
Holy shit, I'm so glad this popped into my suggested. I've been seeing the commercials for this film everywhere and I've been ignoring it. I'm definitely going to check out the manga!
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This is my absolute favorite cyberpunk story. 100% recommend the manga.
I have been scared by the first and second animation when I was child. Now, the new trailer attracted me to explore more. I just finish 9 episodes manga, and review animations. I become to be a big fan to Gunnm (Battle Angel).
Always nice to hear from other Gunnm fans.
I have every confidence that Alita will be a faithful adaptation. Say what you will about Cameron and Rodriguez they are 2 of the most visionary film makers of our time.
People harp on Cameron for the story and writing of Avatar yet forget this is the same guy that gave us memorable lines and stories for Terminator, Aliens, True Lies and Titanic. Cameron's film has always been about the experiencing the ride everything else is bonus. Rodriguez has his bumps in the road but like Cameron his films are visually stunning. Sin City is still gorgeous to look at.
So yes I believe Alita is going to surprise alot of movie goers and I hope people give it a chance.
congrats on 1 million views on this video nick
Fantastic analysis man, well done. Alita is one of my favorite comics of all time as well and you made me very optimistic about the movie.
Damn the movie is good
Glad this got past the copyright ID system
Yeah, finally.
pass*
lol nice.
yeah. I believe i can see the algorithms flaw
Juz mirror
I WAS ONE OF THE GUYS WHO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ALITA BATTLE ANGEL BUT
AFTER SEEING THE FILM, I WAS AMAZED BY NOT ONLY THE CGI AND GREAT EFFECTS BUT ALSO THE STORY, SO I CHECKED IT OUT AND I BECAME A HUGE FAN OF HER...
CAN'T WAIT FOR A SEQUEL!
Just came from the movie. Totally satisfied, surprisingly! It's a great adaptation made from pure sincere love for Kishiro's work. I hope there to be plenty of sequels. There are lots to be told here, and I want more
Oh yeah, I remember finding the OVA on video. Especially the chain leading to the rich city left an impression.
Anyway, good luck to the adaptors. I don't think American movies can ever really capture a Manga/ Anime's spirit. The Japanese are way more daring in shamelessly building stories on pure raw emotions and feelings. We westerns always seem more reserved and uncomfortable putting our souls naked on display.
Unfortunately, yeah. We're kinda sticks-in-the-mud that way.
Funny, considering it's the opposite when it comes to personal interactions.
Actually I think it's more that most of the people trying to adapt them are mostly doing it for the money and don't actually know what makes it so good. They're doing it because they know it made a lot of money (like dragonball, ghost in the shell, etc.). What gives me hope is that Cameron isn't making Alita because it made a lot of money (it didn't, like, at all), he's doing it because he actually likes it.
Roger van der Weide talk for yourself pal. English and nordic westerners are your role model in attitude. Latin westerners and mediterraneans are not ashamed by showing their feelings. Give a look to the greek Theatre and movies of italian directors. They bleed emotions. Japanese added something to the game...nay they took away: censorship and hipocrisy. Every feeling or instinct is showed in japanese anime without shame. Bad, good, evil, pure, sadic, moving, cruel, bright, gross, love, hate ....all experiences are deeply embedded in stories and characters.
Calogero Huygens ...but how often do you see casual hugs or kissing? They're not big on PDA, but you get tired of so much of the draw being "will they/won't they."
That's probably because so much anime is centered around those between the ages of 14 and 21, and I wish there were more revolving around adults.
The last relationship manga I've legitimately loved was "Sing Yesterday for Me," and that's been slow-rolling for years.
I feel like im the only one that wasnt freaked out by her eyes in the trailer and thought it looked really cool lol. Also im defenetely gonna be reading this, it sounds and looks absolutely beautiful. Great video!
Assuming you have not found this yet:
I don't know about where you live, but where I am getting the manga was a very slow and painful proccess, especially as the original run has been out of print for several years. Luckily a new collected run of that is being printed now so you can get a hold of that. Until you do though, you can read these masterworks online, on varying sites. The original Battle Angel Alita run is here - kissmanga.com/Manga/GUNNM Keep in mind, everything that happens after chapter 52 page 34 is not considered canon. Next is Last Order - www.mangareader.net/battle-angel-alita-last-order all good from start to finish, then the now ongoing Marsian Chronicles - fanfox.net/manga/gunnm_mars_chronicle/
Again getting a hold of the books have been hard for me, might be a lot simpler for you, but to be fair you may want to know if you like what you are about top buy first. If that is the case though and you DO like it, supporting the creator of the work is only fair :)
I thought it looked badass honestly. Plus they didn't give too much away in the trailer and keeps people who haven't read the manga from knowing much about it. I sincerly hope it does well in theaters.
It kinda bothers me just cause in the context of the manga she clearly has normally proportioned eyes. I get what they are going for, its cause she is like a doll, but I find it pretty distracting for a gritty sci-fi action film.
yeah the eyes... "oh it's a manga, let's make her eyes big!" ?.. I don't get it, it's a stupid artistic decision
When I first saw the big eyes I was a bit aghast. The beautiful Rosa Salazar is about a close to a real life version of Alita as I could think of, and her eyes are already large and expressive enough. But I can see what they might be trying to do. I guess we will have to see how it turns out.
Dude , Thanks for making this video. You have afforded me insight and more importantly confidence for the future of Alita. I just saw the movie and really enjoyed it. It was obvious that there was more to her story and your video gives me hope that she will become a long lived and well loved character. Here's hoping that they stay true to your Alita.
wtf how have I not heard of this manga before? I'm gonna read this right now, holy shit this seems so sick
Well i noticed Berserk as late as you noticed Gunnm. But iam pretty sure you saw it already but didnt noticed it worthy of taking a further look as i didnt take a further look into Berserk back then.
Looking for another pearl? it's not cyberpunk but just as insane as berserk, Bastard by Kazushi Hagiwara.
Good video, I had no desire to check this movie out because of the obvious reasons you stated. But you convinced me to check it out
I always saw this manga in book stores back in the day. I always wanted to read it but never got around to it. So as someone who always wanted to check it out, I gave the movie a shot and loved it. Now I’m finally reading the manga and absolutely loving it. I purchased the deluxe edition collection for a physical copy and then bought digital versions from Amazon to read in my iPhone. I’m glad to finally be called a fan of this amazing manga, and I hope the new focus gives it a new anime series.
I first saw this video 2 months before the movie premiere. Today I have seen the movie twice, and found this video again. I love it more, and understand it better. And good news: JC and Rodriguez delivered!! BIG TIME! ALL YOUR EXPECTATIONS WERE FULFILLED, NICK.
Good video! Your narrator voice is great. It is clear and your inflection really demands attention.
Wow... This video really makes me want to check out the manga!
Awesome!
it is worth it. Trust me like the video author i agree 100% alita is a really good story but only us few fans knew about it.... I am glad the movie is gonna come out soon but i am afraid of it failing ... still hope dies last so i will continue hoping.
you should. Go order the first book of the first series
Do it. It is probably one of the best mangas out there.
You should definitely hunt down the Manga, it is worth it.
I'm seeing this video shared on twitter. Thank you everyone, for helping it get around!
This video made me read the manga more than a year ago. You singlehandedly changed lives, man, much love!
I got the impression that the eyes are so big because she is from Mars, they all had big eyes in her squad in the flashbacks which means they have been made/evolved for marsian climate.
I think Alita is very beautiful and her eye are powerful. Like the black footed cat. A wild cat smaller that an house cat but very dangerous. I saw the manga and the 1980's-1990's Cartoon version and I loved it I think I must order this movie
Ah, Gally, my first fictional "crush".
I strongly looked up to her as a person, I respected her (and still do, obviously), but of course, as a straight guy, I did feel some attraction to her too.
Her journey touched me, I cried as she cried, smiled as she smiled and started fistpumping like a moron when she mentally pulled herself up again and found the inner strength to go on no matter the hardships.
I do wonder how this affected me. I was already a teenager when I read the manga. Was she the first expression of my "preference", or did she help shape it? I know now I am often attracted to strong and intelligent women. I love it when a woman knows what she wants and has the stubborness to fight for it and the willingness to dirty her hands. I adore it when a woman is intellectually gifted, analytic and rational.The cute but dumb and naive type is definitely not for me.
Gally maybe not be a genius girl, but she is bright and levelheaded, and she is the very definition of a strong and headstrong woman. As I grew older, my admiration for Gally never dwindled, but she did get the company of other, somewhat similar women: Sarah Connor, Makise Kurisu, Twilight Sparkle, Sailor Mercury, etc. But Gally will always be the first.
Great video, an eloquent and very accurate explanation of why GUNNM is more than what can be seen at first glance in the trailer.
GUNNM is very much an obscure manga, I hope people will give it the chance it deserves and not just stick to their preconceived notions and tropes.
Thumbs up for calling her Gally.
Well if she doesn't need a man I guess you're out of luck! I also find it kind of hilarious that you guys have a leftist bias, since Gunnm has so many references to right wing philosophy and thought, hell it's pretty much right wing. The character is the paragon of Nietschean overman ethics, counter-balanced with Rousseauian philosophy set to a world where Platonic philosophy and Republican ideals are preeminent. Sorry to spoil it for you guys.
And exactly where is this idea of the Übermensch presented in a positive light?
In case you didn't notice, GUNNM takes place in a dystopnian world, i.e. a hell on earth. For as little as it dabbles in the idea of Übermensch philosophy it clearly shows the cesspool of suffering and vileness which will be the result of such ultra-nationalist delusions.
Gally herself even rejects the notion of the Übermensch as she, as a cyborg, is considered to be an Untermensch, as impure compared to the "100% flesh" people from Zalem.
Ido, too, rejects that philosophy and that's why he is a cybernetic surgeon and has embraced Gally for who and what she is. Unlike other people from Zalem who live on the surface (like in "Another Stories") Ido even refuses to go back to Zalem.
So clearly the series is not championing any right wing ideas, if anything it's a cautionary tale of where such delusions will lead to.
And for the record, you're the one who connected the Republicans with fascistoid philosophy. I'm sure they'll be very happy to hear that.
Thinking of women who "don't need a man" as desirable is ironic, really. Well, what do you have to offer them if they're so independent? If you can't see your value to a romantic partner, you should probably reflect on yourself and move on...
I think you Otomic Ans don't understand the difference between need and want. Wouldn't you would rather have a woman who wants you over one who is forced because she needs to be with you. I'd rather be with a guy who wants me. I think you should reflect on yourself and how you view women. I don't need a man but I want to be with one. I'm not a child to be taken care of. If you have never been with a woman just because she wants to not because she needs to then I feel sorry for you. You don't know the joy of someone who loves you not because they have to but because they want to. I'm kind half asleep and I'm rambling. I think being with a needy person is too tiring. You asked what you have to offer an independent woman how about yourself or love. Wouldn't you like it if a woman was with you just for you and not what you can do for her? I think maybe there is something wrong with you and you need a needy girl because you are not enough for a woman. The big eyed born yesterday girl is easy over an independent woman because you have something over the born yesterday girl. I'm telling you if you have an equal partner who doesn't need you but just wants you, the feeling you have with that person is way better. I'm so tired and I'm sure this is a grammer and spelling mess. I really shouldn't care what you think but you views on women is so messed up I couldn't let it go. I hope you understand this but I'm pretty sure this being the internet you won't. Because having someone want you is the greatest feel in the world over feeling needed and I hope you get that feeling someday. if not what ever your a closed minded sexest pig so your lose.
It warms my heart to see this video again two years later! This is one of the videos that made me discover Gunnm when the teaser was released! Congratulations also for the success of this video!
Absolutely agree: Don’t Fuck It Up! I’m 45 and I grew up with Alita and have thought about it off and on for two decades. I have high hopes for this movie, particularly as the casting seems to be spot on. I’ll be extremely disappointed if this movie misses the mark.
TheHoodmailbox It does seem promising yes. At least the trailer was one of the most promising sci-fi/action trailers I have seen in a long time. Hopefully this movie will be as good as Mad Max 4.
amongst all the stories in this they stuck with shitty hugo story, that was only a springboard for her running away, and going her own way. But i guess they wont even show how Hugo dies, cause we need a happy ending am i rite? Trust me this one will be utter garbage, most generic parts of this awesome story molded into a coming off age story with romantic interest. Besides scratown doesnt look at all like the junkie infested cyber punk mess it is the books.
I don't see them adapting this chunk of the story and leaving out the most important, pivotal part of it.
I am 50 and also was impacted by Battle Angel ever since i found the anime back in the 90's. Lets cross our fingers!
Always did think the movie Elysium ripped a lot from Battle Angel at least that's what it felt like when i watched it.
Andre Silva The funny thing is when Battle Angel comes out, people will claim it’s ripping off Elysium!
Never heard about Battle Angel until I saw the movie trailer, love this breakdown of what sets it apart. Also my first time learning about the "born yesterday" trope which I can now never see as anything but creepy. lol
You forgot the "sexy" part in "born sexy yesterday", and I'm actually planning on playing this trope in one of my movies, because I want the artistic challenge of seeing if the trope can actually be done properly while still being played technically straight, without the creepiness explained in this video.
By the way, I suggest you learn to eat only once per day [like I do, Dinner specifically]. You can save hundreds of dollars every month doing this. According to multiple independent experts, the slower metabolism caused by the OMAD diet helps you live longer.
@@TycoNewRC , word !!!!, Is that so ...
Eat once a day huh....I heard about that b4 but I don't know...does that include snacks and candy, becoming a vegan or something ????
The difference is in what it _can_ include and what it *_should_* include. In my view, all of mankind should prefer be be vegan (the only exception I can think of is if you're a vegan farmer who needs livestock to fertilize crops, so you must eat the dead livestock so it doesn't go to waste) but veganism is not necessary. Snacks and candy can be a treat immediately after the one meal (Dinner) but not a separate eating process after the digestion process already happened from the Dinner.
I went to see the movie without knowing the manga or anything about it and I loved it so much. I'm now looking for a place where I can find this to read it :)
Watched the movie yesterday. It was amazing but i needed more. Wanted more info about the manga/storyline of Alita. Then i saw your vids about her and made me understand a lot more. Cant wait for the sequel!
Already know whom to cosplay at this upcoming comic/anime con :))))))
Haven't worn a costume since I was a kid. Lame
"...please, PLEASE, don't fuck it up."
I totally agree. I am super reluctant to see this movie because I know they ALWAYS mess something up. Like having Legolas in the Hobbit, or that elf chick, whatshername. Tauriel is not a Tolkien character!!
and yeah, the eyes... why did they have to do that with her eyes? That wasn't Alita's most "striking" feature. It was/is her fighting ability! So literally, her most striking feature is her ability to strike.
Anyway.. thumbs up!
Nowhere in the manga is it even suggested that she has inhuman bug eyes. That's an invention of Cameron.
@@MrCmon113 Sometimes animé looks like that.
Her lips were her most striking feature. That's why to this day it's still an inside joke :)
That you could say that shows you have an uncreative rigid mind.
Even though it’s an invention of Cameron or whatever, she was an “battle angel/Android” without people knowing and if nobody knew her they wouldn’t know that/see that as mentioned in the manga. That’s why the eyes are a silly choice in my own opinion (no, you people calling me a dumbass/bitch/whatever will not change my opinion).
Edit: yes it’s a creative thing, but it doesn’t just give it justice because of that lol.
Brought a friend who hates anime with me to the theaters the second time I saw it, she loved it. So did my mother, who admittedly hates anime but likes that my sisters and I enjoy it. This movie was one that my whole family could watch and enjoy together, whether they liked anime or not. That alone should give it merit. Hell, most Disney movies can't even do that lol.