This is how I started as well. I couldn't justify paying for Adobe as I knew I wanted to do something creative but wasn't going to commit to all that money.
I also purchased the Affinity suite for both my Mac & Windows laptops and my iPad Pro, and now sadly Affinity is going to be forced into a subscription based service now.
@@leonard187 I don’t think so at the moment, I will give the benefit of the doubt for the moment. I think after looking at some tweets from affinity, they said that some features in the perpetual licence will have subscription like AI if they add the feature
Totally agree. V2 is good, we have years ahead of us but V3... that's where we'll know. I'm going to stay hopeful as I love Affinity.. but.... it's not looking great.
@@bydesignmethod The saddest part is after learning the apps/softwares, the company that you trust betray you, and you will have to move to others, learning them all over again. This is why people don't want to leave Adobe even when they hate the company.
@@bydesignmethodI'm not so confident and suggest that V2.5 could be the last before subscritions are introduced with a shiny new V3 subscription, and naturally there wil be very attractive loyalty discounts for existing licence holders that switch over. Sadly (and with my apology for the scepticism), it's all a by product of corporate economic strategies that have to keep the revenue flowing in to satisfy the shareholders. Most photo editors had pretty much all they needed with PS6 until Adobe convinced everyone they all needed to become designers and publishers as well and CS1 was born...
I honestly believe V3 will be subscription based if the Affinity Suite is even still around. I to will be reacquainting myself with Inkscape and Gimp. The little I used Publisher for can be done in Libre Office. I hope this makes the Affinity Suite better, I just have big doubts though.
*It's a terrible mistake.* They had to fight evil, not join it. That's what greed does to people. They did not pass the test with a lot of money. They were offered a good price and sold and betrayed the trust of millions of their users, who just came to them avoiding corporate evil.
It's not "evil," it's business; it's the free market, not greed. As much as I HATE that this is happening, this is called freedom. You are free to start your own design software company, hire a team of developers, testers, and marketers, build a great product, sell (not RENT) it at a bargain price, AND refuse the massive cash offer to buy you out ... if and when that day arrives. And I hope you do, and do it fast. We'll need it in about a year. Or less.
I can't say I would decline a big offer if I owned a company and produced an excellent software either. I'm all for the free market and I (at this moment) hate it as well but you're not wrong. We're part of the ride get off if you want. @@LV4EVR
@@LV4EVRbut it's not according to the philosophy and statements affinity big gentleman have made over the years. They kept saying, it's a one time fee unless a big version update comes. On the other hand of it keeps working for decades, why not. I believe Canva made proposals and have asked users what to do. But I'm very suspicious of what perhaps might happen
I would give it a %80+ chance that canva will move affinity to a subscription base at the next major version release. I suspect that after the next 2.5 release (if they actually follow through), development will be towards some level of Canva integration. This will be released as version 3 and integration into Canva subscription model.
If they go toward subscription, it's over for them. At least 90% of the their customers went for their software explicitly because it was *Not* a subscription based software. If that happens, the majority of their users will just take their chances with Adobe or Gimp.
That's exactly why I started using them (and supporting ALL their products, including packs from the Affinity store) Trying to remain hopeful, I truly love their software but I understand (and feel) why everyone is upset.
For me, Affinity 2.4 already gives me all the tools I need for my work. If they want to venture off to a subscription model in the future, I will just continue using my purchased software as is. Unless they offer something in the future I can't do without, then I don't have a problem staying where I'm at. It's not as if I will be forced to delete what I already own.
True - V2 is only less than a year old and we have some solid years ahead with this version and updates. We will see how it goes, I love Affinity and won't be going anywhere until I see what happens.
Just stay with what you have. Since any new updates can implement a force of something/anything they want. I'm glad they don't have a forced update and it's a option to do any updates.
It's truly what made them different. When V2 came out and it was still a one-time purchased and I was so hyped. We have some solid years left with V2 but we'll see what happens.
I purchased affinity for the non subscription model - I have been with them since they sold the package as Serif Page Plus etc. As a user who designs graphics for a house of worship - this is looking like sad news
Same here, I had a choice when I started and picked Affinity for the non subscription model. I went to school and learned graphics through Adobe but it was an easy choice for me at the time.
Here's what I suspect is going to happen: we'll get another few updates to the v2 products, but within 18-24 months v3 will be out with a partial subscription offer. Now I think you'll still be able to buy v3, but it'll probably be offered to Canva subscribers as a bolt-on. After that I reckon it will go full subscription only. Now my hope is that Serif actually add the missing tools we've all been waiting ages for to the v2 line, but I'm not holding my breath.
Interesting and certainly possible. No one is really in the big business of putting the user over profit. Will be invested to see how this is going to play out. I love Affinity but man, didn't see it coming.
This is it exactly. Maybe they something more like Office, you can buy the permanent license but it misses a lot of the good features. Another option could be a subscription for generative AI and other assets. Ke ep the software license model - even Serif was going to have to do a subscription for generative stuff if they went there.
For those of us who have already purchased Affinity, I cannot see how they can legal start charging a subscription. We bought on the terms of it being an outright purchase. Perhaps when a new version is available, that may change. But for now, I cannot see how they can legally change our outright purchase to a subscription based service.
Hey Cheryl, Affinity will not start charging for the current version you have. They will provide updates (for free) until they do another big release. For reference V1 was out for many years (more than 7) before they released V2. People are worried (and with good reason) they will start charging a subscription upon the release of V3 (which could be 2-5 years from now) V1 still works fine, so hopefully when they do release V3 (if it ever happens) V2 will still work fine..but no one knows at this point what is going to happen.
I saw this announcement earlier and was pretty shocked. Having lived through several corporate mergers in my corporate career, I’ve seen too many changes that were not for the better. I can’t afford to switch to a subscription model, so I’ll just keep my version two and use it as long as possible. Thanks for your update. Like you say, we just have to wait and see what goes down. Or up.
Yes it doesn't look good on the surface, I'm hoping this can be something different - maybe that's silly of me. We have a few solid years for sure with V2, updates, etc. Once V3 comes we will find out.
Rawtherapee, Darktable or Silkypix for RAW and Gimp, Krita, xgimp for android, Snapseed for android, Silkypix as mentioned for RAW is also close to getting the results of a pixel level editor in that it has masks, selective adjustments and great colour/tone tools, most times after pre processing in Silkypix I don't need to do anything else (it's a real bargain price too)
It was only a matter of time 😟 The subscription model is horrible for users but profitable for the companies. Serif could never realistically compete with Adobe/Canva pricing model. RIP 'One-time Purchase' 😭
I think this sucks. I've had to use Canva to make web banners for people at work and that software is very poor. You can't make multiple banner sizes within one document, for example. And the file organization is confusing. Canva doesn't understand how graphic designers work. I will be staying with version 2 of Affinity forever if version 3 becomes subscription based.
I'm hoping this actually brings people from Canva OVER to Affinity. I've used Canva for things like pie charts and it's great for that stuff.. but you're right, it's certainly not for actual designers. I'm hoping Canva can produce the funds to make Affinity better... but more funds means more money... and where does that come from? the user unfortunately.
I wouldn't worry just yet... V2 was just released last year so you've got (judging from the update from V1 to V2) about 5 years or so of constant updates until V3. I'm not sure what the future holds, I'm being optimistic but as we all know a larger company's goal is to generate revenue.
I'm totally shocked. I'm hopeful we have a bright side to this - more tools, canva users coming over to our side and we grow but I don't see how we avoid a subscription model unfortunately.
They've crossed the line for you have they? I understand. No subscription was massive and a guiding light for creatives, a great alternative to Adobe. I'm certainly in shock, I will continue to use Affinity but invested in what's really going to happen.
Echoing the same thoughts. After nearly thirty years, I made the decision a month ago to switch to Affinity full-time and officially cut the cord to Adobe. I'd had enough of shoddy, bloatware and ever-increasing costs. This news was perfectly timed to make me instantly regret that decision ... There is no question that once v3 hits, it will be subscription-only or available at a much higher price tag for the "ownership" option.
Wow, bad timing for sure. I was confident with Affinity, V2 came out less than 1.5 years ago and I was so happy when they stuck with no subscription. We'll see how it goes.
I think we all know where this is going ... and that's many of us back to Gimp and Inkscape once the V3 "now we're just like Adobe but not really" subscription model is released. Sad day.
@@bydesignmethod companies being companies there is nothing humane there, nothing worth of defending as is money talk only. artists or the user comfort is the last and least important thing at the moment for the top people at serif and canva.
I had a feeling when I purchased the Affinity suite that it seemed too good to be true. Now it appears the end is near. My hope is that existing Affinity users will still be able to use the applications they purchased even if a subscription model is implemented.
Me as well, I know V1 is still available to all users and hopefuly they will do the same for V2. V2 was only released last year so we have some years ahead with no issues - after that though, i'm just not sure.
@@bydesignmethod V1 didn't use license servers, V2 does, so if Canva want to shut V2 down they can. You have to remember that Serif doesn't own or control Affinity products anymore.
@@bydesignmethod The reality is that Canva does not care about quality products or the users, its all about $$$. Watching the Serif video shows that Ash doesn't believe his words, why should we?
Somehow this reminds me of the takeover of PageMaker by Adobe. I hope that this is not the second time that my layout programme disappears or is converted into a subscription model. Serif's statement often talks about today. But what will it be in a few months' time? I don't have a good feeling.
I do not want to subscribe and that is the reason why I bought Affinity. I will keep using it (after all it is mine) and will never update it to v.3 or any version that I have to subscribe to. I do not mind having to pay a reasonable fee for major updates but not a monthly subscription. Anyway, subscription model cannot last long. Who can afford all the subscriptions we apparently need? I can't.
If they weren't aiming to eventually move to subscription, they would be crowing about the fact, as it would be a significant PR advantage. But as they are being somewhat weaselly about the issue I think we can fear for the worst. I continued using the last purchaseable version of Photoshop for a further 8 years after Adobe went subscription, until it became too cranky to use. That's when I moved to Affinity. I expect I can do the same with Affinity, but that won't stop me feeling resentment towards them ("disappointment" is too mild a word). It's a massive blow.
V2 will be supported for at least a few years, it's only been out about a year and a half (or less) but I think we can see what's coming unfortunately. I am hoping for the best but companies don't buy other companies out of the good of the user. I'll use Affinity as long as possible and keep my fingers crossed. Didn't see this coming.
Fingers crossed for the best outcome. Maybe they compete with Adobe and (somehow) start to be used by professional organizations at a better price point... most likely subscription though.
This is why we can't have nice things. Well, i'll keep clinging to V2, upgrading to V3 will depend if the business model shifts or not as that's my only worry right now, a detail that Serif should make clear sooner rather than later. Couldn't care less about Canva as long as the Affinity suite does not shift to a sub model and keeps on evolving. I'm still hopeful. :/
I like your outlook and I agree. I'll still be using Affinity everyday and I will see what happens with V3. I use Affinity for personal and work so I hold it in high regard. We're just part of the ride now. Let's stay hopeful.
Interesting thought Josh, I actually like this. Let the users have both... we can all win. I really hope this is something they consider moving forward.
My heart sank. Canva and Affinity are at opposite ends of the creative spectrum, and this is not good for designers or creatives. Canva is a dumbed down template drag and drop app, and I regularly see the garbage print ready (ha ha) files supplied for print production by customers!
Oh wow I'm sure you have seen quite a lot if you're working in print production. I've heard that about Canva. I'm really hoping Serif cut some kind of deal with Canva to somehow keep the user in mind but it's seems to be looking a little grim.
There will be no V3 without a Canva subscription, and there won't be AI selection tools implemented in V2 updates, the possibility of AI selection tools was all I was hanging on with Affinity for, I won't do subscriptions so for me it'll likely mean going over to Adobe, but I'll see how things play out for a short while first.
Yeah, it's looking like V2 will have some changes but most likely nothing major with Canva onboard now. They'll gear up for V3 and whatever that looks like who knows.
Remember, "Nothing will change today"... So they will wait with subscriptions, downsizing/cost savings, product cancellations, product merges and unqualified executive, non designer changes until tomorrow... That gives us 24 hours to enjoy the independent Affinity software....
Don't know if you were aware of this but quite while ago Adobe wanted to aquire Canva, but the purchase was not permited by american court due to Adobe's monopoly on the market. Here we are in 2024 when another big company aquires a smaller but with more professional solutions available. My thouths - Canva wants to compete with Adobe on professional market using Affinity solutions, hopefully i won't introduce subscription model.
You have some good options, certainly sad at the moment to see it go this way. I'm hopeful, but it's hard to see how it's gonna go any other way than subscription eventually.
Consolidation never happens because it is better for the customers. At best, Canva is trying to remove an option for those who did not want to subscribe. The Affinity suite is perfect for my non-professional needs. In the same way, I kept running Microsoft Office 2003 notwithstanding Microsoft attempts to make me upgrade to their subscripton.
To be honest… I’ll just switch to adobe again when (not if) affinity starts implementing a subscription based service. Was nice while it lasted. Kinda feels like a betrayal nonetheless.
I'm hopeful the integration will have Affinity adding functions such as in Photopea i.e. auto option for effects such as bulge, warp etc ... excited! 😻
I’m surely gonna add everything we need and want in Affinity photo designer and publisher, but it’s all going to come at a premium price Affinity going to become a subscription base product.
@Design Method, so what's the future for your channel? Will you be creating tutorials for Canva, getting ready for the inevitable integration with affinity apps 😄
I'm lost at sea! Believe it or not I do LIKE canva, I think it's great for regular people trying to make a graphic but I don't know how this all fits together.
Jumped ship many years ago to Affinity Suite from Adobe. Not happy with the possibility of the future V3 being subscription based. I never uninstalled V1 when V2 came along. If that does happen with V3, I hope previous versions will not be effected. Fingers and toes crossed this will all work out.. but still can't help feeling disappointed with this merger.
I understand. I also have V1 still installed, just how my brain works I guess. V3 we'll find out, we have at least a few good solid years ahead with V2.
If you have a subscription in either will that be merging into one account and no price change per app or if there's no changes at this time what of the future and when you get affinity photo and disinger from Microsoft Store will they mention this as well or if you have downloaded them? Canva who owns it, thought is was Adobe to in same small way. Or own by a media company like Apple? Canva is a powerful tool why buy other tool for hobbiesest to educational uses and perhaps self employed. Affinity to has some limitations with all three products it maybe brining all three into one app like Corels apps and Microsoft Office 360. Canva Affinity 360 has all the features of all and but a single subscription it could be everyone who already uses them need not to submit to a new account only need a product numbers to use either? Isn't Affinity on Linux to? Canva can't be used there I recall?
Canva have already committed to maintaining the perpetual license option and making Affinity free to schools/non profit. Affinity integrated into Canva would already be covered in their subscription model. Standard Canva 1 price higher subscription for Canva Ultimate including Affinity. What's the advantage to Canva to remove Affinity USP of perpetual license
Too bad. I bought Affinity to support the non subscription model. I did not mind to every so many time, to buy an update. I was waiting for the autotrace functionality, being unsure when it will come. Most hope disappeared, I was already getting a little irritated the autotrace update is still not here. I have no believe in Canva for this. I think Inkscape it is.
I also bought them for non-subscription and to support a small, great company. I'm trying to find some light in this - it would be great if this actually allowed Affinity to get things like image trace, some simple AI stuff (background removal) and export to ePub. I'm still a big fan and will continue with Affinity but it looks like we may know where this road is going.
There is zero reason for Canva to continue Affinity as is. It will be stripped of its technology and repackaged into Canva which will, doubtless, raise its subscription price to pay for the acquisition. Big companies don't buy small companies to help them them thrive. This is terrible news. :(
Yes unfortunately the goal of big business is more $$$ and you can generate that with a one time purchase. I'm staying hopeful but we've seen this movie before.
Truly. I'm trying to be hopeful, I have (had) so much faith in the Affinity products and Serif. I'll use it as long as I can and stay with them for the ride, we'll see.
Usually what happens if a big company buys a smaller one is, they rip off whatever is useful in the portfolio of the company they bought and use it in their own ecosystem and the rest is silently discarded sooner than later. And the fairytale press release that everything stays the same and both companies benefit from the sale is usually proven to be a lie within 6 month after the deal. I won't bet on that we'll see a V3 of the Affinity suite as we know it now. But I'd be happy if I'm proven wrong.
Yes V3 will tell us but it doesn't look great, does it? And you're right, typically the larger will take what it needs and leave the smaller to die. I'm hopeful but still trying to wrap my head around it.
It's going to be interesting, I don't see how we can avoid a subscription model down the line. I'd love to have faith but I'm still kinda shocked right now.
I hear you.. it's hard to say when they don't have control anymore. They know something we don't or they believe it anyways... i'm staying hopeful as I really love my Affinity products.
I'm definitely holding on until (or if) the wheels fall off. I only wish the best for Serif and all Affinity users. We have (had) something special. Let's hope we can hold onto at least some of it.
🔮 I’m sensing Canva will drop a v3 subscription model. 💸 Will stick with Affinity suite till it goes subscription. Will use v2 till OSs don’t support it anymore, or hope an independent flat fee creative software comes out to compete with Adobe and Canva before then.
I feel like we've all been thrown under the bus.In my experience never, ever has something like this been good for the consumer. I agree with everyone who commented that they left Adobe because of the subscription leeches.
Is affinity going subscription! This would be a shame, not very good news for the design community. Canva is subscription based, are we losing affinity to the adobe model?
V2 was just released last year so we have a solid bunch of years until V3 - after that, who knows? I would find it hard to avoid a subscription model at that point. I'm trying to be hopeful and maybe Affinity and bring us something special out of this.
I think we’ll be good with V2, and we’ll probably have to stick with V2 if Canva comes in and destroys the app we love in V3 or whatever name they will put on it
Absolutely we're good with V2 for at least a few more years with updates/fixes so I will continue my everyday use. V3 we will see... something is gonna change for sure.
This is not going to be better for us the very ppl that put its trust into an amazing product and software company I’ve been using Affinity products ever since the beginning, and now they sell out to this bigger company so I seriously believe all of the Affinity products are now going to become just like all the others a subscription based product and I for one won’t be buying yet another subscription based product.
This is what truly made them different, even if the core at Serif wants to stay one time purchase you can't say no to the giant that owns you. I'm hoping for the best.
@@bydesignmethod the bottom line is we’re all screwed because it’s most definitely becoming a subscription based app and that isn’t going to be good for us the very ppl that make all these companies rich off of the backs of hard working folks like us all.
Same here. It was inevitable, and I was simply waiting for it. Canva removes a non subscription option. Affinity will be absorbed eventually, and only Canva will remain.
Very disappointed as I purchased Affinity because it wasn't a sub model. I'm just a baby user, which is why I couldn't justify a subscription for the small bits that I do. By the end of the year, Affinity will be just a memory. That's what happened when I worked for a tech company that was sold to a much larger tech company. They (big tech) said (smaller tech) wasn't going anywhere. Within a year, smaller tech was gone.
I started with Affinity for the same reason - no subscription. Unfortunately that seems to be the case, bigger companies main goal is revenue - not people. I'm trying to look on the bright side but we've seen this before.
Looks like subscription world is on the horizon for Affinity users. I've been a user of Affinity software from its launch: an innovative and dedicated company. In my opinion very limited advantages, if any will be the outcome regarding the acquisition of Serif/Affinity by Canva. Best wishes to all Affinity technical and support team.
I hear that. I'm glad at the moment the team is together and still working on the product, they should be proud. I'm hoping for a spark of difference they can bring to users, subscription or not.
Well we don’t know what’s happening so this is just click bait. If they abandon the perpetuity option they will cut off their own nose for sure so let’s see if someone still has any commonsense in management still.
Macromedia Fireworks. Anyone remember them? Another great software that got bought and ended. Adobe. Well I guess v2 is the end of the road. Software package is too good to stop using it. End of the road though, for sure. Sad news. Life goes on. May a new competitor arise
I have been using the tutorials from all those TH-cam channels, and I am wondering what will happen to them: the Affinity Revolution and the rest of them....
V2 was just released last year so we have some years left, on the hopeful side maybe Canva can bring some cool/useful tools into Affinity. Some Canva users may be looking for more and come over to Affinity for more professional editing.
@@bydesignmethod okay I get that V2 was recently released, but there’s so many features that still need to be added to make this compete with the likes of Adobe and Canva, and now that I am thinking about this mov that the CEO of company has made; I seriously doubt and believe Affinity is going to be swaddled up and thrown away by Canva because I just see them allowing Affinity to outdo themselves the bigger companies always chop up the smaller company.
@@bydesignmethod I doubt there are years left, Canva bought Serif as they are going public soon, they'll want it fully integrated and available to their 175 million subscribers before then, that will mean a V3 faster than usual, they can't do it with V2 as there's lots of existing owners of that to consider
@@bydesignmethod The standard process is for the new owner to start to learn about the acquired company. No major change. Then, they insert their own people. Then, they start to develop a future direction. As they become more confident, they take over more and more, and lay off most of the staff from the acquired company. The original company essentially disappears into the acquiring company culture and the product remains in name only. Been there! Twice.
@@bydesignmethod The primary reason I chose AP was for the non-subscription model. They won't be getting any more money from me. It's inevitable that they'll be subscription-based at some point in the future. History and company greed proves that. There's only one reason to acquire a company - increased revenue and profit. Unique businesses get absorbed by big companies and lose their original identity in the end. 😡😭
I think people need to calm down. Nothing has happened yet and people are behaving like it's the end of the world. Sit down, relax and enjoy life and when something concrete happens you can say jay or nay.
Nice to see a positive comment - we still have Affinity and we still own it. V2 is less than 1.5 years old, we will get a few more solid years without question with updates.
@@bydesignmethod I just discovered Affinity (and bought it ( and your channel, after stuggling and failing with GIMP (POS) for years. and now this. I hope someone grabs their source code and puts it in open source. Or i will dockerize Version 2 and tell them to F off forever
As long as they let users keep their individual app or universal license then I guess it's fine if they wanna go with the subscription. Otherwise, I want my money back.
I bought affinity photo specifically because I don’t like subscription based software
This is how I started as well. I couldn't justify paying for Adobe as I knew I wanted to do something creative but wasn't going to commit to all that money.
I also purchased the Affinity suite for both my Mac & Windows laptops and my iPad Pro, and now sadly Affinity is going to be forced into a subscription based service now.
🤦🏼 another one bites the dust. You'll own nothing and rent everything.
@@leonard187 I don’t think so at the moment, I will give the benefit of the doubt for the moment. I think after looking at some tweets from affinity, they said that some features in the perpetual licence will have subscription like AI if they add the feature
Canva has confirmed the full licence will stay @leonard187
I wouldn't be worried about V2, but V3 is where we'll see if Affinity betrays us or not.
Totally agree. V2 is good, we have years ahead of us but V3... that's where we'll know. I'm going to stay hopeful as I love Affinity.. but.... it's not looking great.
@@bydesignmethod The saddest part is after learning the apps/softwares, the company that you trust betray you, and you will have to move to others, learning them all over again. This is why people don't want to leave Adobe even when they hate the company.
damn ain't that the truth - the last sentence directly@@jinraigami3349
@@bydesignmethodI'm not so confident and suggest that V2.5 could be the last before subscritions are introduced with a shiny new V3 subscription, and naturally there wil be very attractive loyalty discounts for existing licence holders that switch over.
Sadly (and with my apology for the scepticism), it's all a by product of corporate economic strategies that have to keep the revenue flowing in to satisfy the shareholders. Most photo editors had pretty much all they needed with PS6 until Adobe convinced everyone they all needed to become designers and publishers as well and CS1 was born...
Be worried about V2 if Canva turn off the license servers!
I honestly believe V3 will be subscription based if the Affinity Suite is even still around. I to will be reacquainting myself with Inkscape and Gimp. The little I used Publisher for can be done in Libre Office. I hope this makes the Affinity Suite better, I just have big doubts though.
I'm having the same thoughts about V3. I think we are years away and I'm still gonna use Affinity everyday but not sure what the future is gonna hold.
Hello GIMP, lnkscape and Krita.
*It's a terrible mistake.* They had to fight evil, not join it. That's what greed does to people. They did not pass the test with a lot of money. They were offered a good price and sold and betrayed the trust of millions of their users, who just came to them avoiding corporate evil.
Yes the goal of any big company is to generate revenue.. a one time purchase does not do that. We'll see what happens.
It's not "evil," it's business; it's the free market, not greed. As much as I HATE that this is happening, this is called freedom. You are free to start your own design software company, hire a team of developers, testers, and marketers, build a great product, sell (not RENT) it at a bargain price, AND refuse the massive cash offer to buy you out ... if and when that day arrives. And I hope you do, and do it fast. We'll need it in about a year. Or less.
I can't say I would decline a big offer if I owned a company and produced an excellent software either. I'm all for the free market and I (at this moment) hate it as well but you're not wrong. We're part of the ride get off if you want. @@LV4EVR
@@LV4EVRbut it's not according to the philosophy and statements affinity big gentleman have made over the years. They kept saying, it's a one time fee unless a big version update comes.
On the other hand of it keeps working for decades, why not.
I believe Canva made proposals and have asked users what to do. But I'm very suspicious of what perhaps might happen
I would give it a %80+ chance that canva will move affinity to a subscription base at the next major version release. I suspect that after the next 2.5 release (if they actually follow through), development will be towards some level of Canva integration. This will be released as version 3 and integration into Canva subscription model.
I think you are right regarding subscription, I think it's almost unavoidable at this point but I want to be hopeful.
If they go toward subscription, it's over for them. At least 90% of the their customers went for their software explicitly because it was *Not* a subscription based software. If that happens, the majority of their users will just take their chances with Adobe or Gimp.
That's exactly why I started using them (and supporting ALL their products, including packs from the Affinity store)
Trying to remain hopeful, I truly love their software but I understand (and feel) why everyone is upset.
For me, Affinity 2.4 already gives me all the tools I need for my work. If they want to venture off to a subscription model in the future, I will just continue using my purchased software as is. Unless they offer something in the future I can't do without, then I don't have a problem staying where I'm at. It's not as if I will be forced to delete what I already own.
True - V2 is only less than a year old and we have some solid years ahead with this version and updates.
We will see how it goes, I love Affinity and won't be going anywhere until I see what happens.
Just stay with what you have. Since any new updates can implement a force of something/anything they want. I'm glad they don't have a forced update and it's a option to do any updates.
Once they add a subscription, I will look at other software that is not.
It's truly what made them different. When V2 came out and it was still a one-time purchased and I was so hyped.
We have some solid years left with V2 but we'll see what happens.
I purchased affinity for the non subscription model - I have been with them since they sold the package as Serif Page Plus etc. As a user who designs graphics for a house of worship - this is looking like sad news
Same here, I had a choice when I started and picked Affinity for the non subscription model. I went to school and learned graphics through Adobe but it was an easy choice for me at the time.
Same here. I think my first PagePlus was X5
Here's what I suspect is going to happen: we'll get another few updates to the v2 products, but within 18-24 months v3 will be out with a partial subscription offer. Now I think you'll still be able to buy v3, but it'll probably be offered to Canva subscribers as a bolt-on. After that I reckon it will go full subscription only. Now my hope is that Serif actually add the missing tools we've all been waiting ages for to the v2 line, but I'm not holding my breath.
Interesting and certainly possible. No one is really in the big business of putting the user over profit.
Will be invested to see how this is going to play out. I love Affinity but man, didn't see it coming.
This is it exactly. Maybe they something more like Office, you can buy the permanent license but it misses a lot of the good features. Another option could be a subscription for generative AI and other assets. Ke ep the software license model - even Serif was going to have to do a subscription for generative stuff if they went there.
For those of us who have already purchased Affinity, I cannot see how they can legal start charging a subscription. We bought on the terms of it being an outright purchase. Perhaps when a new version is available, that may change. But for now, I cannot see how they can legally change our outright purchase to a subscription based service.
Hey Cheryl,
Affinity will not start charging for the current version you have. They will provide updates (for free) until they do another big release. For reference V1 was out for many years (more than 7) before they released V2.
People are worried (and with good reason) they will start charging a subscription upon the release of V3 (which could be 2-5 years from now)
V1 still works fine, so hopefully when they do release V3 (if it ever happens) V2 will still work fine..but no one knows at this point what is going to happen.
@@bydesignmethod, that's what I was getting at. Since we bought outright, they cannot legally charge a subscription for it.
my apologies - you are absolutely correct@@CherylWrightAuthor
I saw this announcement earlier and was pretty shocked. Having lived through several corporate mergers in my corporate career, I’ve seen too many changes that were not for the better. I can’t afford to switch to a subscription model, so I’ll just keep my version two and use it as long as possible. Thanks for your update. Like you say, we just have to wait and see what goes down. Or up.
Yes it doesn't look good on the surface, I'm hoping this can be something different - maybe that's silly of me.
We have a few solid years for sure with V2, updates, etc. Once V3 comes we will find out.
Rawtherapee, Darktable or Silkypix for RAW and Gimp, Krita, xgimp for android, Snapseed for android, Silkypix as mentioned for RAW is also close to getting the results of a pixel level editor in that it has masks, selective adjustments and great colour/tone tools, most times after pre processing in Silkypix I don't need to do anything else (it's a real bargain price too)
It was only a matter of time 😟 The subscription model is horrible for users but profitable for the companies. Serif could never realistically compete with Adobe/Canva pricing model. RIP 'One-time Purchase' 😭
Truly shocked, not sure what to think.
I think this sucks. I've had to use Canva to make web banners for people at work and that software is very poor. You can't make multiple banner sizes within one document, for example. And the file organization is confusing. Canva doesn't understand how graphic designers work. I will be staying with version 2 of Affinity forever if version 3 becomes subscription based.
I'm hoping this actually brings people from Canva OVER to Affinity. I've used Canva for things like pie charts and it's great for that stuff.. but you're right, it's certainly not for actual designers.
I'm hoping Canva can produce the funds to make Affinity better... but more funds means more money... and where does that come from? the user unfortunately.
I literally bought affinity photo YESTERDAY because it is not subscription based... F*** !!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬
I wouldn't worry just yet... V2 was just released last year so you've got (judging from the update from V1 to V2) about 5 years or so of constant updates until V3.
I'm not sure what the future holds, I'm being optimistic but as we all know a larger company's goal is to generate revenue.
I got affinity suite 4 days ago. Thankfully, they have a 14-day refund policy. I'm out!
I get it. It does change everything. I'm staying until whatever happens, happens. @@frankcastle9561
Affinity was great while it lasted, but now it will likely go subscription based. This is why we can't have good things.
I'm totally shocked. I'm hopeful we have a bright side to this - more tools, canva users coming over to our side and we grow but I don't see how we avoid a subscription model unfortunately.
Very sad, very worrying about the subscription model lurking.
Same... it's truly why I picked Affinity in the first place.
Starting today, I will stop using Affinity products and move over to Inkscape and Gimp
They've crossed the line for you have they? I understand.
No subscription was massive and a guiding light for creatives, a great alternative to Adobe.
I'm certainly in shock, I will continue to use Affinity but invested in what's really going to happen.
They haven’t crossed it yet, but the writing is on the wall.
Echoing the same thoughts. After nearly thirty years, I made the decision a month ago to switch to Affinity full-time and officially cut the cord to Adobe. I'd had enough of shoddy, bloatware and ever-increasing costs. This news was perfectly timed to make me instantly regret that decision ... There is no question that once v3 hits, it will be subscription-only or available at a much higher price tag for the "ownership" option.
Wow, bad timing for sure. I was confident with Affinity, V2 came out less than 1.5 years ago and I was so happy when they stuck with no subscription. We'll see how it goes.
I'm scared. Must reacquaint myself with the Gimp
I had to check to confirm it wasn't April Fools Day.
gimp 3.0 is coming soon, should be good timing for gimp ngl
@@visual_chris i hate GIMP, fuck this
@@visual_chrisIndeed.
I think we all know where this is going ... and that's many of us back to Gimp and Inkscape once the V3 "now we're just like Adobe but not really" subscription model is released. Sad day.
It's a tough one. Still shocked over here.
Remember when adobe acquired substance? they said nothing will change, no body will be layoff, then everything changed and the team changed......
What are the odds it will be different this time? not looking great, huh?
@@bydesignmethod companies being companies there is nothing humane there, nothing worth of defending as is money talk only. artists or the user comfort is the last and least important thing at the moment for the top people at serif and canva.
It's hard to believe this will end well for the customers.
Agreed.. it doesn't look great, does it? I'm staying hopeful.
I had a feeling when I purchased the Affinity suite that it seemed too good to be true. Now it appears the end is near. My hope is that existing Affinity users will still be able to use the applications they purchased even if a subscription model is implemented.
Me as well, I know V1 is still available to all users and hopefuly they will do the same for V2.
V2 was only released last year so we have some years ahead with no issues - after that though, i'm just not sure.
@@bydesignmethod V1 didn't use license servers, V2 does, so if Canva want to shut V2 down they can.
You have to remember that Serif doesn't own or control Affinity products anymore.
yikes. fingers crossed! I have faith in Affinity (although they no longer have the power)@@SidjEOS
@@bydesignmethod The reality is that Canva does not care about quality products or the users, its all about $$$.
Watching the Serif video shows that Ash doesn't believe his words, why should we?
Somehow this reminds me of the takeover of PageMaker by Adobe. I hope that this is not the second time that my layout programme disappears or is converted into a subscription model. Serif's statement often talks about today. But what will it be in a few months' time? I don't have a good feeling.
I'm feeling the same way. Trying to stay hopeful but we've seen it before as you noted...
I do not want to subscribe and that is the reason why I bought Affinity. I will keep using it (after all it is mine) and will never update it to v.3 or any version that I have to subscribe to. I do not mind having to pay a reasonable fee for major updates but not a monthly subscription.
Anyway, subscription model cannot last long. Who can afford all the subscriptions we apparently need? I can't.
I'm feeling very much like you right now.
If they weren't aiming to eventually move to subscription, they would be crowing about the fact, as it would be a significant PR advantage. But as they are being somewhat weaselly about the issue I think we can fear for the worst.
I continued using the last purchaseable version of Photoshop for a further 8 years after Adobe went subscription, until it became too cranky to use. That's when I moved to Affinity. I expect I can do the same with Affinity, but that won't stop me feeling resentment towards them ("disappointment" is too mild a word). It's a massive blow.
V2 will be supported for at least a few years, it's only been out about a year and a half (or less) but I think we can see what's coming unfortunately.
I am hoping for the best but companies don't buy other companies out of the good of the user.
I'll use Affinity as long as possible and keep my fingers crossed. Didn't see this coming.
I don't believe them - I have heard it all before - very sad
Fingers crossed for the best outcome. Maybe they compete with Adobe and (somehow) start to be used by professional organizations at a better price point... most likely subscription though.
@@bydesignmethod The idea that Canva will be used by professional organizations is laughable.
This sort of buyout NEVER benefits users.
This is why we can't have nice things. Well, i'll keep clinging to V2, upgrading to V3 will depend if the business model shifts or not as that's my only worry right now, a detail that Serif should make clear sooner rather than later. Couldn't care less about Canva as long as the Affinity suite does not shift to a sub model and keeps on evolving. I'm still hopeful. :/
I like your outlook and I agree. I'll still be using Affinity everyday and I will see what happens with V3.
I use Affinity for personal and work so I hold it in high regard. We're just part of the ride now. Let's stay hopeful.
The move should be to continue to sell the apps as a one time fee, but add cloud features as an add on subscription.
Interesting thought Josh, I actually like this. Let the users have both... we can all win. I really hope this is something they consider moving forward.
My heart sank. Canva and Affinity are at opposite ends of the creative spectrum, and this is not good for designers or creatives. Canva is a dumbed down template drag and drop app, and I regularly see the garbage print ready (ha ha) files supplied for print production by customers!
Oh wow I'm sure you have seen quite a lot if you're working in print production.
I've heard that about Canva. I'm really hoping Serif cut some kind of deal with Canva to somehow keep the user in mind but it's seems to be looking a little grim.
There will be no V3 without a Canva subscription, and there won't be AI selection tools implemented in V2 updates, the possibility of AI selection tools was all I was hanging on with Affinity for, I won't do subscriptions so for me it'll likely mean going over to Adobe, but I'll see how things play out for a short while first.
Yeah, it's looking like V2 will have some changes but most likely nothing major with Canva onboard now. They'll gear up for V3 and whatever that looks like who knows.
Remember, "Nothing will change today"... So they will wait with subscriptions, downsizing/cost savings, product cancellations, product merges and unqualified executive, non designer changes until tomorrow... That gives us 24 hours to enjoy the independent Affinity software....
Yeah, the signs aren't looking fantastic, are they?
I'm hopeful but I'm shocked and feeling on the dark side for sure
Don't know if you were aware of this but quite while ago Adobe wanted to aquire Canva, but the purchase was not permited by american court due to Adobe's monopoly on the market. Here we are in 2024 when another big company aquires a smaller but with more professional solutions available. My thouths - Canva wants to compete with Adobe on professional market using Affinity solutions, hopefully i won't introduce subscription model.
Interesting I did not know that. What you're saying makes total sense but it may result in the subscription for us. Time will tell!
Bye Affinity (I bought Designer, Photo and Publisher).... Welcome, InkScape, Gimp and Scribus.
You have some good options, certainly sad at the moment to see it go this way. I'm hopeful, but it's hard to see how it's gonna go any other way than subscription eventually.
Canva Acquires Design Platform Affinity to Bring Professional Design Tools to Every Organization
I like the sound of this honestly.
Consolidation never happens because it is better for the customers. At best, Canva is trying to remove an option for those who did not want to subscribe. The Affinity suite is perfect for my non-professional needs. In the same way, I kept running Microsoft Office 2003 notwithstanding Microsoft attempts to make me upgrade to their subscripton.
To be honest… I’ll just switch to adobe again when (not if) affinity starts implementing a subscription based service. Was nice while it lasted. Kinda feels like a betrayal nonetheless.
It's a hard one to swallow that's for sure.. no subscription is why i'm here
I'm hopeful the integration will have Affinity adding functions such as in Photopea i.e. auto option for effects such as bulge, warp etc ... excited! 😻
I’m surely gonna add everything we need and want in Affinity photo designer and publisher, but it’s all going to come at a premium price Affinity going to become a subscription base product.
I like your outlook. I'm trying to find the bright side myself... I don't mind Canva at all and I love Affinity.
Onward and Up I hope!
@@bydesignmethod okay I’ll just claim down for now and pray for the best and find a real positive going forward
@Design Method, so what's the future for your channel? Will you be creating tutorials for Canva, getting ready for the inevitable integration with affinity apps 😄
I'm lost at sea!
Believe it or not I do LIKE canva, I think it's great for regular people trying to make a graphic but I don't know how this all fits together.
You'll own nothing and rent everything.
'and be happy..'
1984 / 2024
Jumped ship many years ago to Affinity Suite from Adobe. Not happy with the possibility of the future V3 being subscription based. I never uninstalled V1 when V2 came along. If that does happen with V3, I hope previous versions will not be effected. Fingers and toes crossed this will all work out.. but still can't help feeling disappointed with this merger.
I understand.
I also have V1 still installed, just how my brain works I guess.
V3 we'll find out, we have at least a few good solid years ahead with V2.
If you have a subscription in either will that be merging into one account and no price change per app or if there's no changes at this time what of the future and when you get affinity photo and disinger from Microsoft Store will they mention this as well or if you have downloaded them? Canva who owns it, thought is was Adobe to in same small way. Or own by a media company like Apple? Canva is a powerful tool why buy other tool for hobbiesest to educational uses and perhaps self employed. Affinity to has some limitations with all three products it maybe brining all three into one app like Corels apps and Microsoft Office 360. Canva Affinity 360 has all the features of all and but a single subscription it could be everyone who already uses them need not to submit to a new account only need a product numbers to use either? Isn't Affinity on Linux to? Canva can't be used there I recall?
Lots of questions for sure.. I'm gonna hope Serif can pull something off for us.
bummed out by this news since I purchased it because it was a one time affordable price. I doubt Affinity will stay fee free for long
They just released an update - check it out! th-cam.com/video/kLmHN4itZ_o/w-d-xo.html
Canva have already committed to maintaining the perpetual license option and making Affinity free to schools/non profit.
Affinity integrated into Canva would already be covered in their subscription model. Standard Canva 1 price higher subscription for Canva Ultimate including Affinity.
What's the advantage to Canva to remove Affinity USP of perpetual license
It's giving some hope on our end anyways. I'll take it.
Too bad. I bought Affinity to support the non subscription model. I did not mind to every so many time, to buy an update. I was waiting for the autotrace functionality, being unsure when it will come. Most hope disappeared, I was already getting a little irritated the autotrace update is still not here. I have no believe in Canva for this. I think Inkscape it is.
I also bought them for non-subscription and to support a small, great company.
I'm trying to find some light in this - it would be great if this actually allowed Affinity to get things like image trace, some simple AI stuff (background removal) and export to ePub.
I'm still a big fan and will continue with Affinity but it looks like we may know where this road is going.
There is zero reason for Canva to continue Affinity as is. It will be stripped of its technology and repackaged into Canva which will, doubtless, raise its subscription price to pay for the acquisition. Big companies don't buy small companies to help them them thrive. This is terrible news. :(
Yes unfortunately the goal of big business is more $$$ and you can generate that with a one time purchase.
I'm staying hopeful but we've seen this movie before.
FFS, it better not become subscription based.
Fingers crossed - it is why I chose Affinity to begin with.
@@bydesignmethod Me too! What a bummer.
Sad day.
Truly. I'm trying to be hopeful, I have (had) so much faith in the Affinity products and Serif.
I'll use it as long as I can and stay with them for the ride, we'll see.
Usually what happens if a big company buys a smaller one is, they rip off whatever is useful in the portfolio of the company they bought and use it in their own ecosystem and the rest is silently discarded sooner than later. And the fairytale press release that everything stays the same and both companies benefit from the sale is usually proven to be a lie within 6 month after the deal.
I won't bet on that we'll see a V3 of the Affinity suite as we know it now. But I'd be happy if I'm proven wrong.
Yes V3 will tell us but it doesn't look great, does it?
And you're right, typically the larger will take what it needs and leave the smaller to die.
I'm hopeful but still trying to wrap my head around it.
If this means subscription based and the inclusion of generative ai garbage I’ll ditch these sellouts and move to freeware
It's going to be interesting, I don't see how we can avoid a subscription model down the line. I'd love to have faith but I'm still kinda shocked right now.
I'll use it until it becomes subscription based (which it will) then I'll go back to Inkscape and Gimp.
Totally understand. One time purchase was their shining light to all creatives.
Affinity just can't keep going on a single purchase plan, look what happened with Clip Studio. Canva will add a Subscription model not doubt.
I hear you.. it's hard to say when they don't have control anymore. They know something we don't or they believe it anyways... i'm staying hopeful as I really love my Affinity products.
Sigh ima just stay with V2.
I'm definitely holding on until (or if) the wheels fall off. I only wish the best for Serif and all Affinity users. We have (had) something special. Let's hope we can hold onto at least some of it.
🔮 I’m sensing Canva will drop a v3 subscription model. 💸
Will stick with Affinity suite till it goes subscription. Will use v2 till OSs don’t support it anymore, or hope an independent flat fee creative software comes out to compete with Adobe and Canva before then.
Agreed. I love Affinity and won't stop using it until I can't. We'll see what happens.
I feel like we've all been thrown under the bus.In my experience never, ever has something like this been good for the consumer. I agree with everyone who commented that they left Adobe because of the subscription leeches.
History certainly isn't on our side is it?
I won't sugarcoat it: sooner or later what we loved about Affinity's model will be ruined by this acquisition. The big fish eats the little one.
I'm afraid you may be right... i'm trying to look on the bright side but it's looking pretty dark over here.
So wait will Canva take out art and put in their system without our permission just for using the software.
oh geez let's not think about that!
I do trust Serif, but most decisions are not in their hands anymore. Stay tuned!
What a shame. This will only end in tears. Sad news.
I'm just shocked. Couldn't have predicted this.
Gonna throw a few extra on the fire tomorrow - gotta keep the positive lit up big time 🔥
Enjoy the ride..you might as well.. it's what's happening!
Is affinity going subscription! This would be a shame, not very good news for the design community. Canva is subscription based, are we losing affinity to the adobe model?
V2 was just released last year so we have a solid bunch of years until V3 - after that, who knows? I would find it hard to avoid a subscription model at that point. I'm trying to be hopeful and maybe Affinity and bring us something special out of this.
I think we’ll be good with V2, and we’ll probably have to stick with V2 if Canva comes in and destroys the app we love in V3 or whatever name they will put on it
Absolutely we're good with V2 for at least a few more years with updates/fixes so I will continue my everyday use.
V3 we will see... something is gonna change for sure.
This is not going to be better for us the very ppl that put its trust into an amazing product and software company I’ve been using Affinity products ever since the beginning, and now they sell out to this bigger company so I seriously believe all of the Affinity products are now going to become just like all the others a subscription based product and I for one won’t be buying yet another subscription based product.
This is what truly made them different, even if the core at Serif wants to stay one time purchase you can't say no to the giant that owns you. I'm hoping for the best.
@@bydesignmethod the bottom line is we’re all screwed because it’s most definitely becoming a subscription based app and that isn’t going to be good for us the very ppl that make all these companies rich off of the backs of hard working folks like us all.
Same here. It was inevitable, and I was simply waiting for it. Canva removes a non subscription option. Affinity will be absorbed eventually, and only Canva will remain.
@@p6x2 agreed!!! I totally believe that is going to happen within the next few months
Very disappointed as I purchased Affinity because it wasn't a sub model. I'm just a baby user, which is why I couldn't justify a subscription for the small bits that I do. By the end of the year, Affinity will be just a memory. That's what happened when I worked for a tech company that was sold to a much larger tech company. They (big tech) said (smaller tech) wasn't going anywhere. Within a year, smaller tech was gone.
I started with Affinity for the same reason - no subscription.
Unfortunately that seems to be the case, bigger companies main goal is revenue - not people.
I'm trying to look on the bright side but we've seen this before.
Looks like subscription world is on the horizon for Affinity users. I've been a user of Affinity software from its launch: an innovative and dedicated company. In my opinion very limited advantages, if any will be the outcome regarding the acquisition of Serif/Affinity by Canva. Best wishes to all Affinity technical and support team.
I hear that. I'm glad at the moment the team is together and still working on the product, they should be proud.
I'm hoping for a spark of difference they can bring to users, subscription or not.
Well we don’t know what’s happening so this is just click bait. If they abandon the perpetuity option they will cut off their own nose for sure so let’s see if someone still has any commonsense in management still.
Hey the video is clickbait or the announcement?
this was so predictable sadly.. for those looking for alternatives you might find a somewhat fine solution in krita or the upcoming gimp 3.0 update
Never heard of Krita, gonna just take a peak!
@@bydesignmethod is free, there's an option that's paid on epic games or steam that supports the devs if you want one that auto updates
Macromedia Fireworks. Anyone remember them? Another great software that got bought and ended. Adobe. Well I guess v2 is the end of the road. Software package is too good to stop using it. End of the road though, for sure. Sad news. Life goes on. May a new competitor arise
Wow I forgot about Macromedia Fireworks.
I have been using the tutorials from all those TH-cam channels, and I am wondering what will happen to them: the Affinity Revolution and the rest of them....
V2 was just released last year so we have some years left, on the hopeful side maybe Canva can bring some cool/useful tools into Affinity. Some Canva users may be looking for more and come over to Affinity for more professional editing.
@@bydesignmethod okay I get that V2 was recently released, but there’s so many features that still need to be added to make this compete with the likes of Adobe and Canva, and now that I am thinking about this mov that the CEO of company has made; I seriously doubt and believe Affinity is going to be swaddled up and thrown away by Canva because I just see them allowing Affinity to outdo themselves the bigger companies always chop up the smaller company.
@@bydesignmethod I doubt there are years left, Canva bought Serif as they are going public soon, they'll want it fully integrated and available to their 175 million subscribers before then, that will mean a V3 faster than usual, they can't do it with V2 as there's lots of existing owners of that to consider
Didn't realize they were going public soon.. interesting@@terrybrooks395
@bydesignmethod Yes Canva are (not Serif), it will loads to the value when they do
Massive disappointment. Money, money, money - who cares about the customer :-(
I'm trying to wrap my head around it still.. didn't see it coming. I'm trying to stay hopeful.
Shit! The beginning of the end.
Perhaps... i'm staying positive...as I can be
So much for their vow to not adopt AI
Yeah, I think we'll see some fairly fast developments there.
Should do a dead pool on it. I think within three months.
Catastrophe I guess for the future
It's looking like there's a real chance of that. I'm hoping for the best.. but.. well.. you know
All good things come to an end for the mighty dollar! 😡
Should I cry or laugh? I don't know!
@@bydesignmethod The standard process is for the new owner to start to learn about the acquired company. No major change. Then, they insert their own people. Then, they start to develop a future direction. As they become more confident, they take over more and more, and lay off most of the staff from the acquired company. The original company essentially disappears into the acquiring company culture and the product remains in name only.
Been there! Twice.
Cry!
@@bydesignmethod The primary reason I chose AP was for the non-subscription model. They won't be getting any more money from me. It's inevitable that they'll be subscription-based at some point in the future. History and company greed proves that. There's only one reason to acquire a company - increased revenue and profit. Unique businesses get absorbed by big companies and lose their original identity in the end. 😡😭
I can't say you're wrong. The goal is to generate the most revenue. Selling a one time product doesn't produce those results.@@AllenReinecke
Awful news. Affinity 2 is officially as good as we were ever going to get it seems...
I'm trying to stay positive but it's a bit difficult for sure.
bunch of backstabber... don't trust any one unless it is open source, but then still could screw with you like gdevelop...
I'm not happy either, trying to find a light at the end of the tunnel somehow.. not sure where yet
The way the news is presented is like someone just died 😅
LOL listening back you may be right. I guess I felt like someone did die. 😆
I think people need to calm down. Nothing has happened yet and people are behaving like it's the end of the world. Sit down, relax and enjoy life and when something concrete happens you can say jay or nay.
Nice to see a positive comment - we still have Affinity and we still own it.
V2 is less than 1.5 years old, we will get a few more solid years without question with updates.
i don't like this at all...
I'm hopeful but not a fan, didn't see this coming.
I fucking hate Carva.
We will see how it goes, lots of people not happy.
@@bydesignmethod I just discovered Affinity (and bought it ( and your channel, after stuggling and failing with GIMP (POS) for years. and now this. I hope someone grabs their source code and puts it in open source. Or i will dockerize Version 2 and tell them to F off forever
Join the club.
Canva is cringe
Certainly not a designers dream, is it?
As long as they let users keep their individual app or universal license then I guess it's fine if they wanna go with the subscription. Otherwise, I want my money back.
We'll be fine owning V1 and V2.
We will have a few solid years at least with V2 and updates.
Once we get to V3 though - that is the question.
@@bydesignmethod yeah, I hope with the updates, they will fix bugs and app instability with windows.
You I was thinking that same thing, but I seriously doubt they’re going to give us our money back tho.
FOSS Alternatives:
- Gimp / Krita
- Inkscape
- Scribus
Thank you. I think it's important to have options.
@@bydesignmethodI like your fair minded attitude 👍