is this the end of Affinity?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
- Canva has acquired Serif, the company behind the Affinity suite. Is this good or bad news for the future of the Affinity apps? In this video I share the info we have available and my opinions on the acquisition. I love the Affinity apps and I would hate to see them change for the worse.
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- Chapters -
0:00 - Prologue
0:31 - Why Did Canva Acquire Affinity?
1:00 - Initial Reactions
1:25 - Where The Fear Is Coming From
2:04 - An Update From Canva (Canva's Pledges)
2:52 - Why Canva's Update Doesn't Feel Right
3:25 - What The Future May Hold
4:38 - What The Future Holds For Me
5:17 - Outro - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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The second canva stop offering a perpetual licence there will be millions of users ready and waiting to support the next up and coming software. And I will be one of them.
And that next and up software is? Btw since it is perpetual license you can continue to use Affinity for life. Why would you dump it.
I would hope they are smart enough to not take that route in the future because I agree that they would probably lose a majority of their users. I plan on using my V2 License as long as I can if they make those kinds of decisions
Fortunately at my age and for my use as long as Affinity V3 has a perpetual license that is all I will need.
Adobe once had its one off purchase AND subscription available at one time....before they phased it out.
I hope the same doesn't happen with Affinity
@@MichaelSturgill you already know whats about to happen.
Adobe from the start was always a shit company that was never in it for anything but the money. At least Canva has put their money where their mouth is with their school and non-profit offerings.
Well looks like GIMP's one in a million chance - time for them to drastically up their game
haha. I mean, if they up their game, I'm here for it.
They need a professional UI designer to contribute. Gimp's interface, for lack of a better word, is amateurish.
It's clear that Canva saw the comments and the backlash and quickly back-pedaled and said that there would still be perpetual licenses alongside of subscription models. Because as Michael said, why would they not just say that from the outset?
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm assuming happened as well
Because if they could have gotten by with the “sin of omission,” they would have.
They will integrate both products on a subscription basis. That is what big companies do. Buy out the opposition and kill it off. I pretty much only use my Affinity Photo these days for pano stitching. My go to product is Photoscape X which is powerful and easy to use. I might look at buying the Pro version of Photoscape X.
As long as it works for you and fulfills your needs, do what you need to do!
No, I feel like Canva wants to jump into the professional market and they know professionals will never trust Canva as a design tool even it if improves to a professional level. Now they have Affinity, a trusted name that can use Canva's funding and technology to continue to improve. This gives Canva an instant means of attacking Adobe's practical monopoly.
@@drsch I do hope you are right.
Whenever a company buys another company.....they only do that with the expectation that they can make more from this purchase than the cost of the purchase.
They have a plan to do that.
Perhaps....they want this new suite of products and they intend to market it to their existing very large user base.....or perhaps they want to make more money from the existing suite user base via subscriptions in the future.
We'll never know until they make a change....anything prior to that is nothing more than speculation.
I agree with you. They may do the same as Xara designer where they still offer a perpetual license but make it so difficult to find that you are pushed to the subscription.
More likely it'll be like Canva's existing model where you have very few features if you don't buy a subscription. It pisses me off that this anti-consumer stuff is allowed to happen at all.
Yeah, I've seen some other companies that make it feel like they hide the perpetual option behind some clicks.
Based on the fact there was SO MUCH negative comments on the official announcement from Affinity. I hope they are smart and won't remove the one-time payment option. Otherwise I'm sure they will lose more than 60%-75% of their users who wanted to escape from Adobe's greed.
But seeing Affinity removing their official announcement (with all those comments) and making a new one with comments being turned off, I have my doubts.
You have great points that I agree with and more often than not, the company that gets acquired usually and eventually goes in an unfavorable direction. At least for now lets stay positive and hope that things don't change and hope that this business move turns out to be a one in the long run.
I think that is the best thing we can do right now. I'm hopeful for the future!
Thanks for the video! These kinds of acquisitions have ALWAYS led to costing the customer more, but we shall see if they remain true to their word. If they don't, I for one will go elsewhere.
By all means, DIVERSIFY, never put all your eggs in one basket. A word of caution though, don't over do it so you lose time for each and most importantly, yourself!
oh my gosh, I've only just paid for the upgrade of v2 for affinity. I was going to stick with v1 but when I got my new camera for some reason the iPad version 1 didn't support the format, so I waited for the easter sales and brought v2. only to find a company I don't like has brought them out. oh goodie. well ill not be swapping my camera for a long long time, so ill stick with v2 even when its no longer supported.
Also, I am interested to see what other content you are thinking of creating. The possibilities are endless and I know you can pull off some good stuff.
Thank you. I really appreciate that!
I don't see this as a bad thing at all. I'm excited that Canva is going to bring their funding and their technology to Affinity. This is the step Affinity needs to compete in the new AI world. Canva does AI better than Adobe in some areas and better than Affinity in all areas. Affinity is going to become better now.
I am more worried about the quality of Affinity Designer in future updates than subscription. If supscription happens, I dont see any reason for not abandon Affinity to go with Illustrator
Please cover GIMP and Inkscape. Thanks
I unfortunately don't know much about Inkscape, but I can consider covering GIMP in the future! Thank you
It is unfortunate that one of the last hold outs will likely become a subscription based model. I think the trade off would have to be a significant increase in value added, in order to maintain customer interest. If they just change the pricing, but don't provide anything, people will likely find other solutions. There are ways to do a subscription model correctly, but most companies don't pull that off.... only time will tell.
Very true. I would hope that this leads to some great features in the future.
Just as I contemplate switching to the Affinity suit after using Adobe for 25 Years (It will cost me A LOT of time to convert all my files and rebuild the ones that can't be Imported) - makes me second guess that move... Also: Corporate "commitments" are worth exactly 0.
Man, I found Affinity 2 after Vectornator became Curve and went subscription. Now Affinity is possibly following that model? Ugh.
I bet there will be an Affinity 3 that includes AutoTrace which will be only subscription based. I know they say they’ll offer perpetual licenses but given every other company out there, I have my doubts.
Remember, Adobe switched to subscriptions for tax reasons. Its cheaper for them tax wise to sell using a subscription service than it is to sell perpetual licenses.
IMHO, YES, Affinity is finished as the product(s) we came to love. As a retired 45-year software developer, I have been here too many times. The suits/exec/investors will head off to the Caribean (and some senior softdevs will get rich), but the majority of the IP brain trust will leave, and what will be left is a mere shell of the former product(s) (i.e., I retired from HP after they bought multiple companies that went to sh*t after HP bought them). NOT GOOD! SORRY TO HAVE TO SAY THAT!
I'm really hoping that doesn't become the case, but I know it's happened with many companies before.
they probably saw the backlash in announcement so they put out the four pledges to calm community down. If they do go like adobe milking a product that I occasionally use for projects, not making living from, I will look for alternatives
Oh-no 😢
I know 😢
1:07 how do u have access to the dislike ratio?
There's an extension you can get for Chrome and Firefox called return TH-cam dislike
@@MichaelSturgill woah woah. i thought it worked only upto 2022/23 december etc...
Ok so this is a bit of an ambitious question. I’m actually not very familiar with motion graphics but I know you can do that in a 2d animation app called Moho. I remember McCoy buck doing some live classes and videos on him doing a motion graphics children’s book. I didn’t see it cuz I was focused on blender at the time and I kinda forgot about it till I saw your video on how you are looking for a good motion graphics program. Again, Moho is more of a 2d vector graphics animation app but you can do motion graphics too. Maybe you can give it a spin? Do a review and if you plan to keep using it or not?
Also Moho has been a stand alone price for years. But has two versions. Debut and pro. One time purchase.
Everything now is just testing the water. They need to get certain words into the ecosystem, so in the future they can point back to them and say we warned you about this.
Sketch was the grandaddy of interface design apps, until they joined the dark side and went subscription. They offer sort-of an optional permanent license now but the damage is done. They will never recover that market from Figma.
I predict Affinity will go subscription and offer something similar to Sketch, but there will be a new contender by then and Affinity will lose a big chunk of their customers.
It's a shame I ended up preferring Designer over Illustrator for my illustration work.
Yeah, I feel you. At least we can still use what we bought no matter what happens in the future
My pledge: Subscription or overall cost increase would take me back to Adobe with 100% certainty because 1) I’m using Adobe at work anyway 2) Lightroom
I think there are many others that would follow suit if that becomes the case.
Is there an alternative to affinity?
Unfortunately Gimp is the last alternative without a subscription.
Yeah. I have a list of Adobe alternatives on my website (link in description) and the alternatives work both ways if you wanted to check it out!
Imho. the best combination is DXO for RAW conversion and Affinity, with it's layers facility, for adjustments.
Affinity users are refugees of subscription models. The only alternative are open source applications, and they are bug-ridden, have terrible UI or lack features.
If it ends up being subscription I’ll be off back to a slightly superior Adobe because of Lightroom…
Yeah, that seems to be the common consensus. I plan on sticking with my V2 and Capture One if they decide to go down that route
Will be the same pricing model as ON1
Now, as I am around people massively switching to open source software and OS, the people in charge need to understand, that if you take away good software from the people that need it, they will put their time and effort to learn something else. GIMP isnt the best software in the world, but I am just trying to imagine, what an angry "mob" of broken hearted software engineers can do and how these companies dont understand it. I am not thinking of buying affinity, but I will just wait up to see what will happen.
I think if Canva moves Affinity to a subscription model, it will have to be competitively priced with Adobe. Affinity does not have a Lightroom type of image editor. If you have ever used today's Lighroom, it has lots of editing power beyond even Affinity. I never liked that about Affinity. I will wait and see, but in the end, the gold standard is Adobe. I will probably end up back there. Time will tell.
What does Lightroom offer that Affinity doesn't?
@christian-schubert Lightroom has AI and way better selection tools. In fact, most photographers like to stay in Lightroom for their editing, avoiding Photoshop if possible. Of course, high-level commercial photographers and editors use Capture One. I say use whatever works for your budget and workflow.
I agree. The RAW editing with affinity photo just isn't at the level as Lightroom or Capture One. That's actually why I ended up buying Capture One. I love Affinity for retouching, but I do mostly everything else in C1
Money Talks People
Very true
Turn to GIMP and Inkscape instead, hhhhh
stop bloody speculating just to get more views !
My intention isn't to spread fear or chase views. I think it's important to discuss what possibilities we may face down the road, even if it is just speculation. This is a change that has the potential to affect millions of people, and discussing it can help us be prepared for whatever may come our way and even show Canva what we want out of this acquisition
I hate subscription models but all apps are going to online tools, server based processing and AI. Its the future. Don't sweat it. Embrace it. If you're making money with the software, just add a bit to the fee to pay for the subscription. Thats how businesses do business.
Screw that
Fuck that bullshit. AI does not require an online connection.
Ai does require an online connection if you have some piddly chromebook or low spec machine. Also, as AI gets better you're gonna see more online processing for AI tools. Your laptop or desktops can only handle so much.Its just the way of the world now. Embrace it and evolve.
@@Totenglocke42
To be honest that's somewhat simplistic.
In comparison, not as simple as that sentence you wrote.
BS, stop with the doom and gloom crap you lot keep clickbaiting with.
I think it's fair to say we are allowed to share our opinions and our worries. These changes have the potential to affect millions of people and possibly their jobs. I have a feeling things will turn out okay in the end and that is what I'm hoping for, but like I said, change leads to uncertainty. I would hate to see this negatively impact people.