Local Forecast- 6/05/10 Tornado Warning (

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  • So just before 11:00 PM EDT, Tornado Watch 269 was issued for southwestern Michigan, and was soon expanded over towards Detroit. It took about 20 minutes for the watch crawl to appear on The Weather Channel, and not long after it did, a Tornado Warning was issued. Just barely 5 minutes after the warning was issued (for the cell you can see just between Eaton Rapids and Howell at the end of each loop on the local radar), it was cancelled. However, not long after that, yet another warning was issued for the line of storms off to the west. The EAS bulletin makes an appearance following the PM Edition Intro. It's odd how following the bulletin, WGN appears, which was a channel that was dropped from this area a few years back. Then, the channel oddly changes back to TWC. Song during the local forecast is "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" by Pink Floyd.
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  • @dennyfrontier
    @dennyfrontier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    A Severe Nostalgia Warning has been issued for your area

    • @WeatherAirCtrl672
      @WeatherAirCtrl672 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that is very funny 😂

    • @alanakbar1665
      @alanakbar1665 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ong

    • @londongraham6918
      @londongraham6918 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ah, oddity archive.

    • @MeebkinR3Q
      @MeebkinR3Q 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Civil authorities have found the most severe nostalgia storm in the country. Please evacuate now!😊

  • @Simba-1996
    @Simba-1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    This is so nostalgic to me because I used to watch the Weather Channel a lot when I was in young back in 2011 and 2012.

  • @FeralFoxDX
    @FeralFoxDX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    "First we would like to show you"
    "The national weather service in Grand Rapids has issued a tornado warning"

  • @DJ1eye28
    @DJ1eye28 6 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Miss the old local on the 8s

    • @BlueydaHeeler
      @BlueydaHeeler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here

    • @GETINLOSER
      @GETINLOSER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Guuurl I miss the XL days..

    • @greensocks5721
      @greensocks5721 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I still get Local on the 8s!

    • @cisntsharp8427
      @cisntsharp8427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel you man🤧🤧

    • @SCPtorcon
      @SCPtorcon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too 😢

  • @Anna-mq4hv
    @Anna-mq4hv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Those poor bunnies. They don't get to go on a vacation with the others.

    • @hayleywaalen2612
      @hayleywaalen2612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The rabbits need to take cover because there is a tornado coming.

  • @Emerald152
    @Emerald152 8 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    I Like The Old Weather Channel...

    • @Emerald152
      @Emerald152 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Iron Squid Yeah It Looks To Advanced, And They Put More Shows From Other Stuff To There. It's Not Related To Weather. Like Back In 2007-2009 Storm Riders Was The BEST

    • @zeltzintlachinolli2806
      @zeltzintlachinolli2806 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      me too, plus I love the old alert sound it was a lot more intimidating

    • @danielbrecio9040
      @danielbrecio9040 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too i like that

    • @yamelsaavedra8899
      @yamelsaavedra8899 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Emerald The Hero 😁

    • @maggielou17
      @maggielou17 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Emerald Yesss! I was a weather nerd as a kid and I loved those shows! I have such nostalgia from this stage of the weather channel, plus I like the format better.

  • @BlueydaHeeler
    @BlueydaHeeler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    That beeping sound used to scare me as a kid. I didn’t like that sound.

  • @joshywashy3322
    @joshywashy3322 7 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    i miss this old nws voice.

  • @joeycaridi3030
    @joeycaridi3030 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    00:00:11 Getting a weather alert on the weather channel makes a much better sound than the Emegrency alert system. It sounds like a party horn!!

  • @samanthasaunders2043
    @samanthasaunders2043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I just love the music for the local on the 8s. I’m a little bit of a weather geek myself, since I like to know what the weather is gonna be all the time. I used to be a meteorologist to my classmates back in my special class in high school; I’d tell them what the weather was going to be like for the day. My teacher liked it when I got to do that. I’m also obsessed with studying/learning about severe weather. It’s mostly tornadoes I like to learn about, but I also like to learn about other kinds of severe storms, like hurricanes and so on. I have a weather radio at home that I just got for my birthday, so now I’m prepared.

  • @cisntsharp8427
    @cisntsharp8427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I LOVE THE OLD WEATHER CHANNEL TOO I MISS YOU PLEASE BRING IT BACK!!!!🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧

  • @iamgraham_
    @iamgraham_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I live in rural NC and I used to live on a forest golf course that was very well maintained and very nice. It was so pretty in the morning when it would fog and rain. I lived in a nice big house with high ceilings and a sunroom and you could see right onto the tee box and the big trees from the massive windows in the sunroom and in the morning when I would get up for school this would always be on and it’s just so soothing and comforting to me.

  • @dantheman9591
    @dantheman9591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    2:51 The timing was perfect

  • @hypernova9731
    @hypernova9731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bruh I loved the old LOT8's, much nostalgia from this

  • @naswii4360
    @naswii4360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Pink Floyd music is amazing I love it why can’t TWC use real music anymore?

  • @harryperry4328
    @harryperry4328 11 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Interesting how it was Tornado Watch #269 and most of SW lower Michigan's area code is (269). Ahhh the little things in life.
    I remember that night very well. I was with my girlfriend, windows open, rain lightly coming down. It was VERY nice. There was no lightning, no thunder. 10 minutes later, there was a very random and close strike of lightning, then nothing again for 5 minutes. BANG, there was another VERY close strike, and simultaneously my weather radio went off for this tornado warning

    • @socool775
      @socool775  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Harry Perry I had totally forgotten about that! I'm quite up on area codes, and I didn't even think of that.

    • @Jordan-nd1cw
      @Jordan-nd1cw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was peering outside in the wake of no internet, (It was storming) when suddenly lightning struck VERY CLOSE to me. It knocked me right out of my socks, just when I forgot that we live directly behind a metal telephone pole support.

  • @christinegarner1462
    @christinegarner1462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I miss the old weather channel 😢📺

  • @i_eat_grass_hd1244
    @i_eat_grass_hd1244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude I used to watch this all the time in 2014 and also I love Pink Floyd

  • @Silencer333
    @Silencer333 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That alarm sound is really nostalgic back in 2005 and the storm clouds that look like sleeping caps.

  • @socool775
    @socool775  11 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I use a TV tuner, which hooks directly into the cable feed and records it onto my computer(s).

  • @WashingtonStateEASperson
    @WashingtonStateEASperson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This probably might be the earliest recording of the Digital Alert Systems EAS screen which a lot of TV Providers commonly use as of today.

  • @breey45
    @breey45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That beep sound thing used to scare the crap out of me back then. The new one is just annoying it goes like BOoP **message** and interrupts the forecast OOF

  • @LillianVanderstappen
    @LillianVanderstappen หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I miss this video so much and now finally watching this 😊😊😇 I love weather

  • @mr.scrubblebubbles8251
    @mr.scrubblebubbles8251 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    honestly in a way that radio tornado emergency warning is more freaky than the actual tornado haha

  • @Jimmy06blue
    @Jimmy06blue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the weather channel back in the early 2000s better than it is today!

    • @BlueydaHeeler
      @BlueydaHeeler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, me too

    • @Jimmy06blue
      @Jimmy06blue 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anna Gaines I liked it how it’s was all blue since it’s my favorite color

    • @jonathanschlack7210
      @jonathanschlack7210 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

  • @Cloverheart109
    @Cloverheart109 14 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the beep beep beep beep thing is a little annoying but at least it doesnt go BEEP BEEP BEEP ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR crap that one scares me my friends hate it too!!!

  • @Hyperb2002
    @Hyperb2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think this is what got me into the EAS.

  • @shelbythibodeau5506
    @shelbythibodeau5506 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Not often the Weather Channel gets interrupted by the Emergency Alert System, especially when they're both issuing the same thing.

  • @cocobutter1975
    @cocobutter1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a big part of my life. Love this weather channel... Man I missed these days.. The music everything bout this.

  • @Dizzledude2012
    @Dizzledude2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nothing like pink floyd for your local on the 8's

  • @wishtalbur2614
    @wishtalbur2614 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “A tornado warning has been issued for your area” ((me and the homies jamming to Pink Floyd on the weather channel))

  • @Mythical6255
    @Mythical6255 10 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    But first we wanted to share with you the Emergency Alert System 2:50

  • @MalrusOSC
    @MalrusOSC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “It just makes sense to get everybody out and go on a vacation”
    Tornado Watch: *I don’t think so*

  • @parallelpinkparakeet
    @parallelpinkparakeet 8 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Pink Floyd nice

  • @dennyfrontier
    @dennyfrontier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rest in Peace--old and much better--local on the 8's

  • @Thunderbirds501
    @Thunderbirds501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    2:50 But first, we want to share with you an interruption from the Emergency Alert System.

  • @BlackhawksFan2011
    @BlackhawksFan2011 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:50 But first we want to share you an EAS for a Tornado warning.

  • @blockerboycraft8866
    @blockerboycraft8866 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    brings me back

  • @MarkMeadows90
    @MarkMeadows90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That beeping noise always startled me, especially when I was younger.

  • @socool775
    @socool775  12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    lol, this was a neat event. The EAS, though, automatically appears for every tornado warning here if it is in any portion of any of the three counties this headend covers.

    • @_perza
      @_perza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn 9 years ago :)

  • @RikkiSpanish
    @RikkiSpanish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh I remember this night so well. The spring/summer if 2010 was a busy one for tornado weather in Michigan. I'm from Detroit, but was living in Ann Arbor at the time. I was living in a transitional housing situation as rehab(I'm a recovering heroin addict). I had worked an 11 hour day(housing residents are supposed to work) and just wanted to go to bed. I had no idea about the weather heading our way. I cracked the window in my bedroom because it was raining so peacefully and put the radio on so I could listen to NPR and catch the news(it was about 11 PM). WDET, the local affiliate, broke in saying we had a tornado warning for Washtenaw Co. I thought that was impossible because it was only gently raining here. There wasn't even any lightning or wind. I threw my clothes and shoes on as fast as I could and woke everyone else up so we could get to the basement. We all went back to bed shortly afterwards. I was laying facing my window, when all of a sudden there was these two odd, bright white flashes of lightning. Right afterwards, at the same time the Ann Arbor sirens and my radio, again, went off with a tornado warning. We had to take cover a total of 3 times that night. The final storm was the most dangerous. As soon as it moved just a few miles southeast of Ann Arbor, it dropped a tornado that chewed up the city of Dundee(Monroe Co., MI). Fortunately, no one died. Thank goodness we never lost power either. There were tree branches down all over the neighborhood and the University of Michigan campus being cleared up the next morning.

    • @jonathanschlack7210
      @jonathanschlack7210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a moderate risk of severe weather the next day and had a Tornado Watch. However, all I got was a few showers with some wind.

  • @TWCmatthew
    @TWCmatthew 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was BAD in Monroe County about 2:30 AM, with winds past 60 mph where I was at, and an EF2 tornado in Dundee, MI. The tornado was headed directly toward me, didn't touch the ground in Monroe, but still, it was the worst storm I have ever seen.

  • @ashleyandliam9920
    @ashleyandliam9920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the beginning I liked the funny bun buns and also I love all of the old stuff back then like this!

  • @SCPtorcon
    @SCPtorcon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember this broadcast!
    I live in Southeast Michigan and that storm was heading right towards me!

    • @jonathanschlack7210
      @jonathanschlack7210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a Tornado Watch the next day. I was even under a moderate risk for severe weather, but I didn’t really get anything other than a few light showers and some gusty winds 30-35 mph.

  • @animefangirl8551
    @animefangirl8551 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That bunny tho

    • @oh_no_no_no
      @oh_no_no_no 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +anime fan girl
      That’s a HARE.

  • @abbigalegarrett3268
    @abbigalegarrett3268 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This Happened a day after my Birthday!

  • @VeryStupidEntertainment
    @VeryStupidEntertainment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    POV: it’s the year 2010 and your watching TWC at a hotel

    • @socool775
      @socool775  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...except, this was recorded at my home at the time.

    • @VeryStupidEntertainment
      @VeryStupidEntertainment 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@socool775 pretty nice, and I hope you were ok

  • @NepsterWX
    @NepsterWX ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God I miss the good ol TWC I watched these a lot since 2009 through 2013 before the whole thing changed when I was very little.

    • @kenrutherford1109
      @kenrutherford1109 ปีที่แล้ว

      I watched The Weather Channel a lot in 1993 and 1994 but I was told that that was unhealthy and I was advised against doing so

  • @_PrimetimePranks
    @_PrimetimePranks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those talking bunnies are just as scary as the warning .

  • @socool775
    @socool775  12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It has something to do with how the signal goes through the cable boxes. I've never completely understood it myself. Comcast forced us to have them to see (or in my case record) the signal in December 2009.

  • @ThrillsofColdplay
    @ThrillsofColdplay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss this Weather Channel so much the music made it so relaxing

  • @aMiyafuji
    @aMiyafuji 14 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Got hit hard here in Ypsilanti. 2 tornado warnings, flooded basement, Huron River almost hit flood stage, lost power (still gone). Messy, kept me up till 2am

    • @jonathanschlack7210
      @jonathanschlack7210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a Tornado Watch the next day and a moderate risk of severe weather. The storms didn’t materialize in my area however. All I got was some 30-35 mph wind gusts and some light showers.

  • @ktyle778
    @ktyle778 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Core memory unlocked.

  • @Haruki_Aikawa
    @Haruki_Aikawa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man this brings back memories, I used to live in summit township just south of Jackson Mi

    • @socool775
      @socool775  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol same here, that's why I'm posting some old videos even now. Yep, familiar with where that's at. Gone over to Spring Arbor a few times.

    • @jonathanschlack7210
      @jonathanschlack7210 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish they kept the old local on the 8s.

  • @lightningbolt99999
    @lightningbolt99999 14 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Your EAS is cool! And to actually activate it, they must have declared that those areas were under a real, real danger!

  • @brynsbabi
    @brynsbabi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss that old local on the 8's voice... I used to hear it every day but now I don't :(

  • @EvilNeuro_IITPP
    @EvilNeuro_IITPP 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:53 good old days when the weather channel used the emergency alert system to warn the public in stead of relying on people to read the small message in the bottom of their screen

  • @ace-x6m
    @ace-x6m 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    even the weather channel tone for it is scary.. lol

  • @NoahLove-nw6mn
    @NoahLove-nw6mn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love TWC and the music is good
    for severe weather and I love talking about severe weather such as tornadoes, hurricanes, and bilzzards.

  • @WasabiWisp
    @WasabiWisp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shine on you crazy diamond, eh?

  • @cornhole4725
    @cornhole4725 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could we start a petition to het the old Lot8s back?

  • @stormycat774
    @stormycat774 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is it that every Tornado Warning EAS I watch that was displayed on TV is in and/or near the county I live in?

  • @So1
    @So1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still wanna know what the first ad is, i recall seeing it years ago

  • @itsmepotatogt8208
    @itsmepotatogt8208 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    cloudy with a chance of meatballs👍👏

    • @mrmaynard1266
      @mrmaynard1266 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ItsMePotato Gt lol

    • @Mr.WeatherForecast15
      @Mr.WeatherForecast15 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And possable chance with a pasta tornado warning

    • @jonathanschlack7210
      @jonathanschlack7210 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mr.WeatherForecast15 the pasta tornado could contain giant meatballs lol

  • @SCPtorcon
    @SCPtorcon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good Catch! 👍

  • @TinaBelcherYesMegGriffinNo
    @TinaBelcherYesMegGriffinNo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There was a storm going on?! In somewhere back in 2010?!

  • @TWCmatthew
    @TWCmatthew 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't believe what a night that was. It barely made 70 here that day, with absolutely no sunshine, except for a few rays close to sunrise. If it wasn't for strong wind sheer, we would of just got a boring soaker...

    • @jonathanschlack7210
      @jonathanschlack7210 ปีที่แล้ว

      The next day, it hit 90 degrees for me, had a moderate risk of severe weather and a Tornado Watch, but I only got some light showers and 35 mph wind gusts.

  • @elijahtorres2688
    @elijahtorres2688 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess WGN is a station that has an EAS receiver, which I think is weird, considering that this channel was dropped as mentioned in the description.

  • @STICKGUYMB
    @STICKGUYMB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "First we'd like to show you the most terrifying noise in your life"

  • @Cloverheart109
    @Cloverheart109 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    oh and I saw and heard that same Emergency alert thing I was the only one awake when I heard it twice!!! My god that Emergency alert thing scares the crap out of people!!!!!!

  • @BlackBear96
    @BlackBear96 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    BREP BEEP BEEP *tornado warning BEEP BEEP BEEP

  • @feathertail8996
    @feathertail8996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NWS warning at 2:52.
    For those headphone users.

  • @RavenholmZombie
    @RavenholmZombie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "But first we want to share with you..." [EAS Alert]
    Oh okay thanks for sharing

  • @tacticalidiot175
    @tacticalidiot175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I MISS WEATHERSCAN!

  • @jaxthecreator340
    @jaxthecreator340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pls can you tell me what this rabbit tv commercial is ?!?!

  • @martertippit
    @martertippit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I grow up I will be a weather proof man

  • @Legomixels1999Therealshowmaker
    @Legomixels1999Therealshowmaker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was also at Wayland

  • @sebastianismyroblox
    @sebastianismyroblox ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also live in patterson,California and I pranked my parents a tornado and they got scared 🤣😂🤣😂

  • @Theheker1298_YT
    @Theheker1298_YT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When i was a little kid i Watch this video and I scream and I kick my phone when the eas alert pop up

  • @almatorres3496
    @almatorres3496 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my house roof flew of...😞

  • @football11248
    @football11248 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My eas interrupt the whole TV box.

  • @Ricardo-zr9ni
    @Ricardo-zr9ni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video turned 11 years old today

  • @victonsloona
    @victonsloona 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Adam Hall did your house get tared down?

  • @kenrutherford1109
    @kenrutherford1109 ปีที่แล้ว

    They're playing "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" by Pink Floyd

  • @johnarmstrong7057
    @johnarmstrong7057 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's song in the local in the 8's is pink floyd the wall

  • @socool775
    @socool775  14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It appears as though the tables have turned. I used to not get them.

  • @dmann5938
    @dmann5938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:11 lol I just find that so funny

  • @---wx8pn
    @---wx8pn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that tornado warning sound was scary

  • @anthonyvalencia7073
    @anthonyvalencia7073 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The tornado warnings are not my Fabre days 😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @kev996
    @kev996 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The beeps hurt so much

  • @Intelliguy
    @Intelliguy 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never get the EAS here anymore.

  • @deltaflyer1441
    @deltaflyer1441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember they used to play Eric Johnson a lot

  • @spcjefferson1030
    @spcjefferson1030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:41 that music sounds like Pink Floyd

  • @carbonmode
    @carbonmode 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    its kinda weird the weather channel freezes up at 2:53 ...

  • @shelbythibodeau5506
    @shelbythibodeau5506 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Be careful out there! 🌪

  • @kingtarkus4895
    @kingtarkus4895 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never knew they used Pink Floyd!

  • @nancystout6401
    @nancystout6401 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was my childhood :( 😭

  • @jennyshmit6172
    @jennyshmit6172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And I thought the eas tone was loud..

  • @FumoReimuGaming
    @FumoReimuGaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish it was not so scary today but today tornado warnings are to scary

  • @t-bonethepowerlineworkerfi4120
    @t-bonethepowerlineworkerfi4120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:52 tornado warning seek shelter immediately !!! Ive been a weather spotter for 2 years getting ready for 3