nice! i was training since last year and step for step im improving my edge skills. since i started ice hockey this year i noticed outside edge is VERY important, and now this is my next step to master! I thought that i knew everything and cant get even better, now i know you can also train your outside edge! ;) thx for this video!
Try to do weight placement not exactly mid-blade, but slightly towards the toe, front half of the blade (not too much!) and you will feel the difference and it will be much easier to do the stop with the front leg and also you will have much more control over your foot.
На 4:24 ладошка у краги ну просто очень развеселила)))))))) Её там просто нет!!!!!!! ))))))) Хотя, это не мешает тренеру оставаться мастером своего дела! Браво!
Yeah the edge chatter is pretty common with this. There are a few variables such as the radius on your skate blade but it's generally just about finding the best part of your foot to apply pressure. I usually press thru the ball of my foot to get the outside edge to dig in the way I want. The first drill usually helps me to find that sweet spot of where I should have my weight.
Late reply to this, but you can gradually work into this move without chatter if you (literally) just dip in your toe first. Start just using the toe area of the blade outside edge, and as you get more confident you can commit more weight and the flatter part of the blade to the turn. Using just the toe lets you shave the ice instead of chattering, until you're ready to commit more to the move. I've taught myself and the kids I coach using this tip. By the way, this is a great video and progression that is taught here.
As a righty, my right leg is near perfect technique with this. However, I've recently noticed that my left leg lags in the technique, and I find my right leg compensating. I need to isolate my left leg more and figure out how to master both edges for the punch turn with my weak side leg.
Just off the top of my head it might be your hand placement. For righties turning left, you have to fight to get the right hand/shoulder rotating into the left leg
If you compare what you show at 0:55 to actual performance at 5:10, at the end you use both legs for power turn, no one can turn like you show at 0:55 and 2:43. You should show how you can make sharp turns, and not just how to shave ice with outer blade while other leg is pointing forward. Upper body turns, inside leg knee first, etc...
Do you mean the leg that’s punching? If so you can technically still punch from a glide, but even when doing a cutback from a shuffle position (feet outside shoulders and pushing thru inside edge) I personally still pick up my foot so I can get it more in front of my body, and also add a little more power since my foot is technically going up and down as opposed to just turning out…sorry for the ramble does that make sense? A drill to work on that would be shuffling over a padded barrier and exiting with a cutback as soon as you clear the barrier…I like to set it up on the half wall, with the exit either attacking down the wall or thru the seam
claudiovegas it depends. But I would make sure the player is already pretty comfortable with basic edge work and has good hip flexibility and core strength. That being said it’s never too early or late to work on skating
Very good video. Would like to have seen you do a cut back to your forehand side WITH puck. Both examples at the end were to your backhand. I find forehand really hard to control puck. Any advice?
You’re right in that the forehand can be trickier. Biggest issue is keeping the hands off the hips and away from the body. Easier said than done but when you’re in the cutback try pushing your bottom hand’s shoulder more into the turn, once your upper body is through the turn it’ll be easier to exit.
i can do all the drills comfortably kind of but i cant for the life of dig in with the ouside edge and then turn, for some reason when im getting ready to punch with the outside edge to then turn, i plant my outside edge and i just end doing a tight turn, and maybe that foot that was supposed to punch slide an inch or too, and then it starts gripping the ice and i go into a tight turn
Elite Ice Hockey Analysis & Norcan Hockey yeah you’re right. For normal practice I would always work on both sides but for demonstrations I usually defer to the side I feel most comfortable on.
Thanks Tim, any ideas why i start turning everytime I try and outside edge L stop. I go on one foot and try to jab my other foot down but I dont end up shaving snow like with my inside edge stop
If you’re able to you can send us a video (email address is in the "about" section) and I’ll take a look. Without seeing it, I’m thinking it has to do with controlling your shoulders and/or the amount of pressure you’re putting into the ice when you punch.
Are there any off ice exercises that can help developing outside edge stability/feel? I am really struggling with my outside edge stops and tight turns.
I think most skaters tend to be inside edge dominant so you’re not alone. A lot of it boils down to strength and mobility in the hips and ankles. There are a few videos on this channel that focus on hip and ankle strength, hope they help!
I can't stop looking at those mitts.
Moon Man Mitts
learning to skate again on a new hip at 60 years old good info thanks
Excellent video. Great set of drills to work up to trusting outside edges alone for stops and cutbacks. EXACT video I was looking for!
man I miss hockey
This skill is essential to have in today’s game. Thanks for posting this.
That what exactly i want to learn ...thank for your video
Excellent video. Wish I had seen it earlier in the season.
Great instructional video!…love the way you break it down into smaller “support” exercises building to the final drill…..well done sir!
You my coach. Super nice.
holy shit. thanks for this! I've literally started working at an ice rink and now you've given me a way to troll the vets.
Thanks. Glad I found your channel
Excellent drills for to improve skating skills. Hello from Latvia🇱🇻
🤘 thank you! One of my teammates was from Latvia 🇱🇻
nice! i was training since last year and step for step im improving my edge skills.
since i started ice hockey this year i noticed outside edge is VERY important, and now this is my next step to master!
I thought that i knew everything and cant get even better, now i know you can also train your outside edge! ;)
thx for this video!
Nice step by step tutorial!
Great video to help with outside edge work! I definitely struggle with fast cutbacks, so thanks for sharing these drills!
Great video, thank you!
Try to do weight placement not exactly mid-blade, but slightly towards the toe, front half of the blade (not too much!) and you will feel the difference and it will be much easier to do the stop with the front leg and also you will have much more control over your foot.
Awesome video, this is what I was looking for.
Great vid!
На 4:24 ладошка у краги ну просто очень развеселила)))))))) Её там просто нет!!!!!!! ))))))) Хотя, это не мешает тренеру оставаться мастером своего дела! Браво!
Those gloves are gigantic!
Great video. First one of its kind on YT
So nice of Kylo Ren to grace us with some skating drills.
Wow! So explosive! I can't do the drill so aggressively :-(
Now I can. Well, almost :-)
Nathan mackinnons a beast at it
thank you i was wondering about that
love it
Hi Tim,
I’m still struggling to not get edge chatter it’s driving me crazy. Great videos by the way.
Yeah the edge chatter is pretty common with this. There are a few variables such as the radius on your skate blade but it's generally just about finding the best part of your foot to apply pressure. I usually press thru the ball of my foot to get the outside edge to dig in the way I want. The first drill usually helps me to find that sweet spot of where I should have my weight.
Late reply to this, but you can gradually work into this move without chatter if you (literally) just dip in your toe first. Start just using the toe area of the blade outside edge, and as you get more confident you can commit more weight and the flatter part of the blade to the turn. Using just the toe lets you shave the ice instead of chattering, until you're ready to commit more to the move. I've taught myself and the kids I coach using this tip. By the way, this is a great video and progression that is taught here.
Great vids and demos!
Great stuff thanks! I'd recommend wearing a lapel mic .
Beauty video and thanks for the tutorial
Thanks for the watch, glad you liked it!
This is the number #1 way Brayden Point creates space.
Great stuff! Thanks a lot!!!
VeRy The BEST!!!!!!
nice video!
Thank you!!!!!!!!
As a righty, my right leg is near perfect technique with this. However, I've recently noticed that my left leg lags in the technique, and I find my right leg compensating. I need to isolate my left leg more and figure out how to master both edges for the punch turn with my weak side leg.
Just off the top of my head it might be your hand placement. For righties turning left, you have to fight to get the right hand/shoulder rotating into the left leg
@reachhockey interesting. I'll have to be more conscious of this, thanks for the response/tip!
just a small force on ur ankle, knees and hips, must be good for the body long term
I didn't know Adam Driver was this good at ice skating
Can’t rule the galaxy if you can’t skate!
If you compare what you show at 0:55 to actual performance at 5:10, at the end you use both legs for power turn, no one can turn like you show at 0:55 and 2:43. You should show how you can make sharp turns, and not just how to shave ice with outer blade while other leg is pointing forward. Upper body turns, inside leg knee first, etc...
Can you do a follow up video showing a drill where you don’t lift the leg?
Do you mean the leg that’s punching? If so you can technically still punch from a glide, but even when doing a cutback from a shuffle position (feet outside shoulders and pushing thru inside edge) I personally still pick up my foot so I can get it more in front of my body, and also add a little more power since my foot is technically going up and down as opposed to just turning out…sorry for the ramble does that make sense?
A drill to work on that would be shuffling over a padded barrier and exiting with a cutback as soon as you clear the barrier…I like to set it up on the half wall, with the exit either attacking down the wall or thru the seam
Great excercise! Thanks for sharing. At what age would you personally start practicing it?
claudiovegas it depends. But I would make sure the player is already pretty comfortable with basic edge work and has good hip flexibility and core strength. That being said it’s never too early or late to work on skating
Very good video. Would like to have seen you do a cut back to your forehand side WITH puck. Both examples at the end were to your backhand. I find forehand really hard to control puck. Any advice?
You’re right in that the forehand can be trickier. Biggest issue is keeping the hands off the hips and away from the body. Easier said than done but when you’re in the cutback try pushing your bottom hand’s shoulder more into the turn, once your upper body is through the turn it’ll be easier to exit.
i can do all the drills comfortably kind of but i cant for the life of dig in with the ouside edge and then turn, for some reason when im getting ready to punch with the outside edge to then turn, i plant my outside edge and i just end doing a tight turn, and maybe that foot that was supposed to punch slide an inch or too, and then it starts gripping the ice and i go into a tight turn
Дружище, да зашей ты уже перчатки!!!!!!!)))))))
Great explanation and demos, looks like you are more comfortable going to your right side?
Elite Ice Hockey Analysis & Norcan Hockey yeah you’re right. For normal practice I would always work on both sides but for demonstrations I usually defer to the side I feel most comfortable on.
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Thanks Tim, any ideas why i start turning everytime I try and outside edge L stop. I go on one foot and try to jab my other foot down but I dont end up shaving snow like with my inside edge stop
If you’re able to you can send us a video (email address is in the "about" section) and I’ll take a look. Without seeing it, I’m thinking it has to do with controlling your shoulders and/or the amount of pressure you’re putting into the ice when you punch.
This dude looks like Kilo Ren.
yeah I can't get my foot 90 degrees in front with my shin pads and skates on
I cannot even put my foot in that position.
Soooo it’s a punch turn,right? Correct me if I’m wrong but good video in general 👍
Sir Isaac kinda. A punch turn I usually use if I’m trying to decelerate and cut laterally. This is more a 180 degree turn
Are there any off ice exercises that can help developing outside edge stability/feel? I am really struggling with my outside edge stops and tight turns.
I think most skaters tend to be inside edge dominant so you’re not alone. A lot of it boils down to strength and mobility in the hips and ankles. There are a few videos on this channel that focus on hip and ankle strength, hope they help!
很棒
Ладошки в его перчатках закончились)))
You mean at a 45 degree not 90? 90 would be straight up
It's a 90 to your other foot.
@@morrisvu2772 ah got it thanks
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