The MISSING Minecraft Blocks...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Minecraft has a an extensive list of blocks which are unobtainable, and not mean't to be seen or used by players. Some of them are even missing from minecrafts block id list, or are simply just blocks that don't exist...
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1:13 - Liquids & Gasses
2:42 - Block 36 & 34
4:51 - Stems & Farmland
5:42 - Invisible Bedrock
6:14 - Redstone Technical Features
8:19 - Fire
8:47 - Portal Blocks
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Hi have you seen my chicken brother he went to into mcdonalds then this kid came out with some chicken nuggets
I knew about invisible bedrock like 8 years ago lol
@@thechickenman3145 omg brother is that really you I wasn't changed into a chicken nugget but instead a chicken salad
I know 1 block in your list
Dude, the moving piston actually has a practical purpose. Mobs won't pathfind through it, so you can use it to block off doors and stuff if you wanna keep mobs stationary and not have annoying barriers everywhere. (They can still be pushed though, so it isn't 100% reliable.)
Very interesting
@@TheMisterEpic i enjoy your vids
well their actual purpose is for the piston but yea you could use it for that
Good for map makers who want to keep mobs in one area without flooding the whole map
Also used for water and lava walls, I have a server and we use it to prevent grieving between build zones and no build zones.
Even if it's a small detail I love how you put time stamps for each section of the videos. A lot of TH-camrs don't do this when they make these types of videos. So it's really nice to see them. It makes you get a better idea of what you're going to watch.
For videos which go through a list of things, and spend a variable amount of time on each thing, it makes a lot of sense.
Glad to see it's helpful!
on desktop web if you click the chapter title next to the timestamp it shows you a selection of all the chapters above the suggested videos
@MisterSerpent k lol
@@DessertArbiter so does on mobile it shows each chapters
Interesting video! The issues these objects presented is likely why in 1.13 metadata was removed.
Yep
@MisterSerpent yes.
@@bananacat3109 yeah I figured
On my world I have a block called the update block
@@enderwarrior3590 I'm not sure about this but I think that the update block is a bedrock edition exclusive block that is a block from a later version but you are in a version earlier than its added so it defaults to being a update block, to tell you to update to a version that does have the block.
When you use /replaceitem and try to set any slot to air, it clears that slot. Therefore you could argue that you can get an inventory full of air by simply clearing your inventory
The still water and lava blocks are actually weirdly cool.
P.S. thx for another great video!
Yea they are
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@@TheMisterEpic wait can't you modify the attributes of water using the debug stick?
@@yeppiidev nope
@@matrixitymc oh lol i was dumb enough at the time of posting the comment above to not know you can't target/highlight liquid blocks (water & lava)
I no longer play minecraft but TheMisterEpics content entertains me even though I no longer play the game
His videos are appealing and always reach me something
If that isn't a good creator idk what is
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Haha ty :)
@@TheMisterEpic np
Also I meant to say teach me something not reach
@@TheMisterEpic dam u have 200k now. I watched you when u had like 1k or less
I remember getting invisible bedrock all the time when I’m playing with my singleplayer mod that lets me have anything (even blocks that are unobtainable in Creative like Glowing Obsidian)
@Kaito my toolbox pe doesnt have the core stages
also no item.black.glowstick.name
It's kind of fitting that Invisible Bedrock is a feature on Bedrock Edition.
Upgrade :
You can place Block 36, even in the latest version by /fill
example :
/fill ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ minecraft:moving_piston
Or just use /setblock if you only need one. Same with all the other blocks he mentioned that are still present in current versions of the game.
/setblock ~ ~ ~ minecraft:moving_piston
You can also get it in normal minecraft (though i only tested it in bedrock and it was actually an accident, update 1.17 copper-added ticking-removed beta version)
By just having inmmense amount of piston lag, quiting (as like having second window open) and then going back
@@nathanjohnpalaogaming4872 That is a bit spicy for my PC
@@FloatingComet62 my tablet had already suffered that one
I remember using a lot of these blocks to build, some of them are accessible in bedrock edition to this day too
Some thing you left out about the piston head. iirc you can get it through glitches in survival and use the debug stick in creative. It also has some pretty obscure redstone uses since before note blocks in 1.13 it was the only thing that could update other pistons being qc'ed but still be a single block
One block you forgot: void air
And cave air
No, those are newer blocks (1.13+). The blocks in the video only exist because of the numeric id system.
When I was an admin of a small server in 2013-2015, we used to play a minigame called Sky Pirates that featured two pirate ships up above the clouds, shooting TNT cannons at each other. I used to use Block 36 to prevent water leaked from broken TNT cannons from reaching the ground and breaking the players' falls if they fell off of the ships. Both ships and the layer of Block 36 underneath them were contained in one WorldEdit schematic that would get re-pasted after every game.
Fun fact: there are 3 additional ypes of air.
Structure-air, Void-air and Cave-air
this was insanely annoying when i was building a raycasting engine and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work underground
Structure-air actually has a use too, you can obtain it in Vanilla Bedrock nowadays with a /give command, and you can walk through it despite it being a block. You can place ladders and rails on it to have them float, you can even go through them from their usually-covered side
Fun fact: Nether portal blocks are obtainable in survival Minecraft on Bedrock edition.
yeah
End portals also
How?
@@zkwirbwksibrmdj just search it up. They look like fake clickbait videos but is legit
Honestly I wished they never removed the Nimber IDs, I wonder why they removed them
There a few reasons justifying this move. The most important one is backwards/forwards compatibility: if you have a world that was created in a version where a block with a specific ID existed and was placed in the world, and load this same world file in a version where that block was removed and replaced with a newer one (or the other way around), things would get funky (i.e. world corruption). The strange "petrified oak slab" only exists because of this problem, as Mojang was unable to replace/remove it because that would have caused compatibility issues. The change also makes modding much easier (because if two mods added different blocks with conflicting IDs strange things would happen) and prevents registry fragmentation (since you are unable to change the order in which blocks or items are registered because that would break older worlds).
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I will comment too to gain likes for no reason
Fun fact: Back when portal blocks were obtainable and placeable, there was funny glitch. If you placed the nether portal block while in the end dimension, you would get teleported to a nether void where you wouldn't die and there was nothing. You would just fall forever without commands.
that happened to me. i wasn't sure why it happened so i just quit
You can actually still set nether portal blocks with the /setblock command and teleport to a weird version of the Nether with insane bugs. I believe AntVenom covered that actually.
Invisible Bedrock can be destroyed by /setblock air, i used it when i was making maps
Why not just barriers?????
@@sparecreeper1580 Can be broken and barriers aren't completely invisible.
5:42 "to stop players from dropping into the void in early windows 10 editions" It was used as a world border in the limited world type named "Old" in certain versions of pocket edition. windows 10 edition was a port of pocket edition to the PC.
Really wish we could’ve had fire armor
Even though it might cause more damage than make you survive it
@@yamamotohiromori419 lmao yes
@MisterSerpent yes, but communism in practice is far different than on paper. On paper, communism should be the superior economic system. However, as we have seen from the Soviet Union, it is horrible. This conclusion may be because there has not truly been a completely communist economy, as the USSR and North Korea are/were command economies. Should a completely communist economy start, it would be interesting to see how much it differs from the "communist" nations mentioned before. But as of now, Capitalism is the strongest economic system.
@MisterSerpent Oh crap you’re right.
@@scareraven9669 Capitalism is the strongest but still not the best economy system so far, it is chosen in the modern age because it doesn't involve utopian tendencies, and is the best economic system that can hold your nation for the most amount of time.
When talking about communism and/or socialism you have to take note that those ideologies and economics are very different from each other, Communism is utopic,where there is no state but only the people, and everyone works for each other no matter they know the person or not, to shortly clarify everyone is everyone's comrades and works for them. But for that to work, it needs the collaboration and the control or submission of the whole world, which means for communism to be achieved, the whole world must unite under a single banner, then the ideology can be put in. Therefore no communist nations could exist, but there is Socialism, socialism is the son of communism and what it is trying to get the whole world and convert it to communism, socialism has a state and its currency but that currency cannot go to other markets, like other countries and it cannot be converted to other currencies aswell. Many socialists call themselves communists since communism cannot only achieved on just one part of the world, if you want to be communist first you have to be socialist and make your own country socialist, then unite the world to make it communist. Socialism is still close to modern society while communism is a whole utopic world, socialism and communism goes against greed which human nature has and, an ideology that goes against human nature will not succeed no matter how much you try, there IS going to be greedy people no matter what and nothing can outcome that.
The reason they had all these blocks is because blocks either have a *block sprite* in hand a *tile sprite* or a *drawn sprite*
which is why redstone-dust, cauldrons and brewing stands have extra 2d textures, they have drawn sprites, so they should have the tile sprite because each block that had a drawn sprite had its own block tile, which represents that block.
Drawn sprites would usually represent the item.
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@MisterSerpent Wtf shutup
@@TheMisterEpic hey umm there is also a mod called toolbox for bedrock you can use it to get items that are not obtainable through creative or survival and you don't even have to use world edit I found some pretty cursed blocks
Why did you capitalize "Another Piece" like that? You saying MisterEpic is a 900-episode anime or something?
@@BinglesP 😕
I love how people never cease to tear this game apart and find every little secret.
I remember seeing some of these blocks on 1.7 faction/griefing servers. People would use them to place water in the nether, it was a crazy sight to behold. I'd see some blocks while piston face blocks and bark blocks in Hive or Hypixel maps too. Seeing them for the first time was quite interesting.
Dude, i've been subbed since 2k and oh my god your videos are so high quality now. Good job :D
Also, you missed the 3D Cake. It's weird...
Was only on legacy console iirc?
(edit: found it as id 92)
Regarding air in the players inventory, I believe that it is identical to having an empty slot, as it doesn't actually have any item data, though it can be added by name. I could be wrong though, as I have played or messed with NBT and player data for years.
When he said “farmland” all i remember is trolling my friends by giving them 32,000 blocks of farmland while they’re doing something
im just refreshing youtube until someone uploads something out of boredom. Thanks!
There was a glitch in old versions of the Xbox one version (not bedrock) and bedrock edition that would make invisible blocks that work like the piston extention. It happened consistently in my pumpkin farm when I had a piston break pumpkins from above. It would create an immovable invisible block that could be mined out. It was really annoying because I had to frequently go in and clear them all out. It was funny though because I used it to create an invisible block in front of my friends door preventing him from opening it.
There was also debug "shrub" plants which were an unobtainable block state of tall grass, but resembled a dead bush. These shrubs could be placed on grass-type blocks, would sometimes drop wheat seeds when mined, and would change colors based on the biome it's in.
These shrubs likely were first added in Beta 1.6 around the same time as tall grass, dead bushes, and ferns, yet were never available in survival or creative on Java edition (making them only obtainable via commands and mods), though interestingly enough they existed in the creative inventory in Legacy Console Edition.
After Java edition 1.13 when they removed numeral Block IDs, they removed shrubs and so all placed shrubs would convert into dead bushes.
It's a pretty interesting debug block with a fascinating history.
SalC1 had also made a few videos about this block when someone obtained shrubs on 2B2T.
There are also three different types of air tiles: air, cave_air and void_air. I found this out when messing around with data packs. Apparently you can climb them like vines and ladders when modifying the climbable.json tag in a data pack. I think it is used for world generation. Air just fills in the empty space on top of terrain, cave_air is used for the generation of carvers like ravines and caves and void_air I think is just for all spaces outside the generated level, below bedrock and over the word height limit
i dont remember the exact version/update, but in minecraft bedrock edition, there was a way to make still water float ontop of a flame until it is updated with a block next to it. i never tried it in the nether though. so the way is to have a lit flame on a block (i'd prefer netherack since it will burn forever), then place an ice bock on top and wait for it to melt. i dont remember the exact version, but i remember that it was one of the bedrock edition updates where the version updates were still called alpha and it was also when powered rails didnt need to be powered with a redstone source.
Interesting thing about pistons having multiple blocks associated with them. If you abuse the old "instant redstone" piston glitches with careful enough timing, you can pulse a redstone line more than once per game tick. The sender and receiver of the signal must be timed together to actually process more than one of the pulses but I had a great deal of fun abusing this. To the tune of half a million pistons firing in sequence to form a substantially large memory cell with 4 signals encoded into each individual redstone path.
2:40 According to the old Minecraft Blockopedia, the Air block was made obtainable because the original Air system could cause game crashes, so then Dinnerbone made it an item, but that didn't make sense so it was made unobtainable again.
I believe there was an old dead-bush block that wasn't supposed to be obtainable (was removed I think in the betas, eventually being replaced with the craftable version). FitMC had a video on it awhile back.
4:54
Ranboo: I am sorry but, you see this?
*breaks tilled land and gets it in his inventory*
I have a fond memory of block 36 (piston extension) :
I used to be annoyed at having endermen littering my realm with grass or gravel but i didn't want to disable mob griefing. I followed an old video from Xisuma that used a command block with a code in it that immediately replaced the block they grab with the block 36. It said in the video they were unable to place it so their arms kept forever busy. Turned out they were actually able to place it. And I ended up with a bunch of completely invisible air blocks that couldn't be replaced, destroyed etc... Fooling around it in survival, found it you can remove them using the tall mushroom trick, same as end portal frames.
Dude Your Videos are just AWESOME
When you realize that nearly all Minecraft documentary channels are owned by people with British accents.
1:40 you can actually create "still water" in survival mode. While playing with Minecraft mechanics, i discovered it while ago. Idk if it's possible to do now but back then, you can do it even in survival.
iirc being able to obtain flowing water used to be a huge deal because unlike using buckets it allowed water to be placed in the nether. Even after the bug allowing water to be placed in the nether by melting ice was removed, flowing water remained a valid method if you could get your hands on it somehow.
Invisible bedrock is still in MCBE, serving in "old type" worlds as the walls, and the bottom of the world is probably also made from it (it's under the bedrock layer that is normal)
The bottom of the world isn't made from it btw
@@mateuszmaj474 there's a layer that "catches you" i.e. you can walk on it in creative... or atleast there was
@@mateuszmaj474 In bedrock, there is cuz you can walk through void.
And pre alpha 0.9.0 you could break invisible bedrock if you placed it in your world. They removed the ability to break it when they added infinite worlds so you couldn't go and fuck up your old worlds
7:50 likely due to the updates happening every tick/ x ticks and a repeater is only updated once upon creation, ie placed naturally which is executed on a tick with its update vs non-tick dependent world edit action time. this could be proven if you see a consistent alternating patter in lit or not lot repeaters
there's also a lot of weird blocks, that were only accessible in mcpe; eg. nether reactor core. They are pretty interesting, because they actually had a unique purpose.
5:43 when I was playing pocket edition with my friend, we were messing around with bedrock and withers and obtained the "invisible bedrock" in the vanilla game. The item texture was a barrier with bedrock inside
Nice video ! Maybe Jigsaw block ?
5:55 theres actually another way! A few years back, mojang gave away some marketplace maps for christmas, one is Hollydale, a christmas town that has a chest with invisible bedrock in it!
5:49 omg i remember seeing these barriers in some very old mcpe maps from like 0.11 or something
Using /fill and setting it to destroy the replaced tiles used to allow you to get invisible bedrock in old world types on Bedrock edition. The same worked for end gateways. I think it's patched now, though.
i remember around 1.2 or so i either pick blocked or command gave (idk if either of these were around at the time so it may have been later) the nether portal block and it had no name, it was just the item name frame but empty lol
I haven't seen the whole video yet, but as usual I think it will be great
Nobody has yet
@@Anty_2 yeah lol
Wait I just realized I don't think anyone tested with block 36 is if mobs will walk through it or if their ai sees it as a full block and gets stuck like with rails.
Good point
Someone did though: th-cam.com/video/VNxEkUzTj84/w-d-xo.html
@@razi_man I didn't know about that I'll watch the video
Me, who has found every single one of these and more from one map: noice
what map?
Cap
Everyone who's impressed: none
@@mtorngren15 nice reply
@@pepito3596 you could generate a map with super flat world that have every blocks in the game.
These blocks are just a placeholder for the engine, which are stored in memory to recall.
I remember still having access to some of those back in 1.7, but they removed their items in 1.8
same
9:00 Those blocks can be spawned in Bedrock just by using /Setblock or /clone.
Also, there are 2 interesting blocks in Bedrock edition, called ALLOW and DENY, they have a weird texture, and I can't figure out how they work.
Very underrated channel.
I love these Minecraft history videos
you forgot to say that in modern versions of the game block 36 / piston_exstension is now called moving_piston and can be placed using /setblock or /fill
"weird" versions of redstone block and cauldron are not actually different versions of _items_.
Some Minecraft things exists in two forms: block and item.
When you use item, you set a block, and when you break block, you get item.
This happens for multiple "blocks" in game: redstone, cauldron, cake, string, and probably some other things that i forgot.
In PE (I guess also in Bedrock) there oncce was something like glowing obsidian (or something like that). It appeared around the weird Nether summoning thing, that was in the versions before the Nether was implemented and it was the only way to obtain Nether items. The summoning Block itself also kind of fits in this list. On top of that there was kind of a Workbench for stone similar to the stonecutter today. Even after the removal of it's technical feautures it was still obtainable as a decoration block.
PS: I don't know which of those blocks are still obtainable or considered "Missing Minecraft Blocks" but after watching the video those three blocks came instantly to my mind.
Most of these can be obtained in bedrock via inventory editors. Also invisible bedrock can be removed by standing on it and using the /setblock command.
Can you make a video on the structure block? As I don’t know there use other then to spawn a wall to protect y’a from a big prismarine guy
I combined them with redstone clocks to create an infinitely generating tunnel. They’re probably my favorite block
I remember a minecart bedrock bot application in the playstore that you can tell it what to do and the bot will do it, mostly breaking and placing blocks but when I asked it to break over the old world type it broke the invisible bedrock
lol
About the cauldron and brewing stand - The normal items serve just as items tha can place the actual block, since Mojang decided to make them items. Maybe it looks better in the inventory. The reason for the potion being displayed in the block is that's how the brewing stand texture looks like. If the brewing stand has no potions, then it doesn't use that part of the texture, but if it does then it uses it. The cauldron's block texture is the top texture of it. The cauldron has a few textures: top, side, bottom, inner.
So before blocks could render as items in your inventory there were seperate items for blocks.
Same for signs.
5:50, i believe the better wording was in early mcpe versions since mcpe was made before win10 and invisible bedrock existed on it since the beginning.
Also you can get rid of invisible bedrock placed by a player using /fill
On another note you missed the old stonecutter (idk if this one counts), nether reactor core (and its states although idk if the states can be obtained like other blocks shown), and glowing obsidian
you could remove the invisible barrier with /fill or /setblock and just put air instead and I believe that with /fill ~ ~-1 ~ ~ ~-1 ~ destroy it will destroy the block under you but as well as emitting particules as if a player broke it by hand so if you put something like water or lava it will make lava or water breaking particles which is a rare thing to see…
0:38 lava/water blocks lol
Old times... :P
"Block 36 isnt obtainable without game modifications"
2b2t, like a month ago or 2: *haha end crystal go brr*
go brrr
@MisterSerpent you just copy pasted a copy pasta did you
@MisterSerpent nerd
back in the day before blockstates, every block had metadata ID. Stone block was 1:0 through 1: 15. All 16 block ID would just appear as stone in vanilla, and were generally unobtainable without /give commands. Wool was one of the blocks that would use all the ID, i.e. white wool was 35:0, orange wool 35:1, magenta 35:2, and so on. So most blocks had an additional 15 unused block IDs. Texture packs could give these IDs custom textures with MCPatcher and give creative players x15 the number of blocks without making the worlds incompatible with vanilla. They forever destroyed that with blockstates and a significant portion of the creative community left the game because of it.
Most of these blocks (the ones that still exist in the game's registry) can be placed using the "setblock" command and don't actually need external game modifications like you said.
The end portal block is extremely useful for servers. From below it is completely invisible and provides light so before 1.17 this was the only way to use semi invisible light sources.
Light_block 1 15
Light block is bedrock only
There are a lot of secrets minecraft has and some of them are so secret that the devs dont want you to see them but the community tries their best to unlock them and figure out what they are
In bedrock edition there is more blocks like nether reactor cores and red obsidian and all of them can still be obtained with commands in the most recent versions. There was a recent glitch where you could obtain every single block in survival by putting gravity blocks through an end gateway
What is the command?
when you get them in older versions and update the world, do you keep the items or were they totally removed?
It's worth noting the the concept of a block ID being a number is obsolete since 1.13 (if memory serves), as they replaced the numeric ID with a text ID.
You make very interesting videos they keep me watching the whole video
Awesome :)
@MisterSerpent did you write this specifically for this comment or just ctrl c ctrl v? Cause that is a super long comment to write about something that has nothing to do with what either of us just said.
The way minecraft deals with blocks that change states reaply reminds me of vsauce's video about if chairs really do exist
How do you find all this cool stuff so fast? It's impressive XD
Hahaha, I guess playing the game for 10 years certainly helps!
@@TheMisterEpic Same but you bring up a lot of stuff that I didn't even remember lol
Man i still remember the 'ate Upd' (Update) dirt blocks back in the old MCPE
Reminds me of good old days when I was messing about with Too Many Items and Single Player Commands.
One thing I knew before watching one of your videos. All thanks to me playing with Too Many Items when I was 13.
End portal and x-ray bugs has same working principle. Minecrfat's rendering technique. Every object has normals (the direction of rendering textures.) Probably they said "End portal can't move. So we don't need to render lower part.". If you place any block in minecraft, the sides of thouching other blocks are not rendered anymore. And if you access and look inside a block, you look through non-rendered sides.
I remember once glitching out my furnaces making them just lit furnaces with nothing in them, thought it was neat
I actually got the piston arm block to exist in my 1.19 survival world for about a fraction of a second. I used the piston and tnt bedrock breaking method and filmed it using badlion client’s “replay mod”. In the replay I slowed down time and noticed the head of the piston separating, glitching into the bedrock, deleting the bedrock, and snapping back on to the piston. If you don’t believe me just test it yourself.
In the bedrock edition on minecraft has a similar block like block 36 but does not have 2 properties block 36 has I think it's called structure void you can get it through commands if I am right idk you should check it out
i often use piston heads on my creative server using WE, u just have to look out for block updates
"Air can no longer be keptin the inventory"
Me chilling in a black hole, after being sucked in by it because I wanted to check how many coal I have in my inventory: Hmm... Interesting
I'm pretty sure if u blow the piston head off u can get it, but u have to use water and timings but I'm not sure, cause I think I remember seeing a video of the ppl getting it in survival. So using a bug u can actually get it in survival
Me who plays around with /setblock a lot: "I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you"
7:04 cocaine
A TON of blocks just felt like they are blocks as items when the items themselves couldn't be used as blocks because their texture is different. I mean like, most simple blocks in Minecraft have a cube shape and 3D texture in your inventory, but cauldrons, buckets, redstone, string, repeaters, (not flowers), all seeds, etc. have 2D textures in your inventory, and in older versions of the game, that meant that these items needed an item-id instead of a block-id to have different textures because of the way the game is coded, and then when you right click with those items, a block with a different id from the item is placed.
The redstone items having their own unique block ids is likely because they don’t apear in your inventory as blocks. The items themselves are probably just pointers for the engine to spawn the blocks where the player wants.
As for why the redstone wasn’t consistent when spawning, idk. Might just be because redstone is jank.
Block 36's texture is the greyscale texture of the top of the grass block. The foilage textures are grey because the color map isn't applied.
Dang, pretty good video!
Thanks :)
It reminds me that I want swaggy netherite stairs. Just to flex on friends. (The infinite update april fools)
"Sad 2B2T's alpha leaves Noise"
MAaaaaaaaan i came in comments specially for this
@@sergio-er1zx oh
The reason that the repeaters or comparators would stay on at random is because Minecraft runs off of one CPU core meaning it can only run one action at once, so when placing the repeaters it has to do it one at a time. Therefore the repeaters being placed causes block updates to the already places repeaters but not to the freshy places repeaters because the unpowered repeaters do not trigger a block update back. The same effect also happens when placing seeds that have no place to root themselves The other seeds being places update the other seeds so that the realize they are not sitting on anything so they break then the breaking of the seed alerts the other seeds around it then they aren't sitting on anything causing them to break. This is also why no two powered repeaters are next to each other.
Edit: The reason the nether portal breaks when it's places next to each other is because of again, block updates. When breaking the obsidian around a nether portal the portal realizes that it has air on that side causing a chain reaction of portal blocks breaking, but you can place blocks on the front of the portal because the block hitbox does not touch the portal block, therefore not causing a block update. Also the end portal does not trigger any block updates because end portal blocks are unaffected by block updates entirely, or at least, were. (you used to (and maybe can now) remove the portal frame blocks and portal blocks without the portal destroying itself)