EXCLUSIVE : Figure Humanoid Bot CEO Brett Adcock TESLA Competitor?
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- Humanoid bot company Figure announces blockbuster partnership with BMW following amazing demo of bot autonomy.
Brett Adcock is CEO and founder of Figure, an AI Robotics company developing autonomous general purpose humanoid robots.
Follow Brett on X: @adcock_Brett
Website: figure.ai
Prior to this, Brett founded Archer Aviation, which built electric vertical takeoff & landing aircraft that went public at $2.7B. He also founded Vettery, an AI-based marketplace that was acquired for $110M.
WARNING: Figure DOES NOT offer a crypto currency. This is a scam that has hijacked Brett's X account.
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The next decade is going to be insane. What an accomplishment for the channel in getting Brett for this interview!
Technically every decade has been. It's the one after this one that I can't get my head wrapped around.
We're looking at a complete paradigm shift which is unlike anything we've had before; a shift away from necessary, mandatory labor for access to essential goods and services to having those essentials subsidized by companies that produce better-than-human robotic labor.@@irri4662
@@irri4662 why next? these robots are coming sooner🤖
Real world if it's like the internet...cell phone ect 20yrs. To see it fully integrated.
Fantastic interview - well done Herbert & Scott. Thank you to Brett for his time and openness
Hello Jeff. Do you think Wall Street will start to understand the potential of humanoid robots this year? I can't see how they couldn't. Regards.
@@perjohanohlsson depends if someone spoon feeds them numbers but probably not cause minimal shipments through 2024/2025
@@jeffreylutz1208 OK, too bad. Thanks though.
And thanks again for all super interviews you give to us via Herbert and others.
@perjohanohlsson cherish the opportunity to be a retail investor!
@@erickbratt9804 I do every day, but it is sometimes hard when the stock is volatile.
My biggest takeaway was how serious and real the humanoid bot space has suddenly become. BMW brings huge credibility to Figure, and this should jolt Wall St a bit, as in "how vast is the market for humanoid bots, and when are they going to start making a difference in manufacturing?". Wall St will need to start looking closer at any company in this space (hint hint). Brilliant interview Herbert and Scott, and what a coup!
He is so young! And this is his 3rd major company!? Crazy
His valley girl upspeak is KILLING me.
Thank you Herbert. Watching Scott is like a kid in the Candy store. I think Brett will push Elon and Elon will push Brett
It's so exciting to see several companies working on humanoid robots. I can't wait to see them in our households. This will be a life changer, especially now that GPT models showed us that machines can now have a human-like intelligence. I would never have expected that so early, the last year really surprised me.
Anyone else think that Figure is 95% hype atm?! They have great goals, but are not in a factory and have not started attempting either real work or mass production. Even taking them at their word, which is a big step, they are still a very long way from mass production of useful bots....and they refuse to detail how they are training, simply stating that they are "at the bleeding edge".
Same number of engineers as Tesla on Optimus... AI is my question.
They’re working towards real work in factories and according to Brett their bottom line is already doing end to end tasks. Of course they aren’t attempting mass production yet they’re not at that stage. They currently need to scale bots for training purposes not for selling.
All AI bot makers are 95% hype at the moment. AI robotics is a promising avenue of research but we have yet to see productive, economically viable work out of them or even a humanoid that has learned to walk without human generated code. People folding shirts in sweatshops are not yet losing jobs.
@@capitalistdingo People literally said the same thing about EVs ten years ago, what evidence do you have to base your claim on? Going to go out on a limb and say you don’t understand AI breakthroughs in learning recently.
How many robots do they have working? Tesla I've seen quite a few
Having this conversation is extremely important for people to begin to comprehend how different our world is going to change over the next 10 years. Thanks Herbert
Anyone thinking Figure being in the market hurts Tesla doesn’t understand the level of competitiveness this triggers in Elon… and unlike most companies, Tesla welcomes competition. Exciting to see Figure in progress!
thats ur speculation
@@kazi7728 It’s proven out by the fact Tesla often publishes and makes patents open. If you have any understanding of Elon you know he loves a challenge.
Tesla is probably the most pro competition company in the world
@@kazi7728that’s ur speculation that it’s his speculation
I agree. Also, while I have no wish to actually do this. I do wonder how I would be able to help solve problems there if I worked there. I've noticed in all of my jobs that I've had, if people couldn't get something to work, even if they've done it a certain way for 30 years and it wasn't that good. I was able to find a way to get the job done and the one time I made the entire company increase their throughput by a large amount. My solution took me maybe 5 minutes to think up and give the sketch to my boss. I love the creativity of these people!
I like this guy. He knows/admits his weakness and he doesn't talk sh1t about his competitors. I'd invest in this company if possible.
Did you also invest in Nikola after everybody was saying Trevor Milton was the new Elon ? 😏
@@nabormendonca5742 I invested in TSLA since 2019 and still holding, if that's where you are going.
@@nabormendonca5742bad comparison Nikola was a scam from the beginning an quire obviously so we know much more about figure than Nikola
Mind. Blown.
Thank you so much to Brett for doing this interview, and Thank you so much Herbert for arranging this and sharing it!
I think that having a good robot with no manufacturing experience will be very hard to pull off. But wish them the best.
That is where Tesla would have a big edge.
Figure has one big advantage over Tesla, a CEO who is 100% focused and who works full time.
@@michelangelobuonarroti916 We will see. My money is on Tesla Engineers + manufacturing capability, experience, money, historical performance.
@@michelangelobuonarroti916 QQ
It's great to hear Brett's point of view.
Hats off to this team for landing the BMW contract
He seems very in sync with Elon in terms of engineering philosophy and view of the future.
Like Nikola did with GM, right? 😏
@@gohansaru7821 His resume reads a little like Elon's. He has founded several startup companies, successful companies.
As exciting as this was to listen to, it just had Nikola / GM vibes about it. A great big story, the execution is one thing to watch. I do however wish them well. The more genuinely playing in the space, the quicker we all get there.
One major difference for me: Trevor had huckster-vibes and was all hot air and ego, whereas Bret comes across as skilled, knowledgeable and careful.
I couldn’t disagree more. Brett already has a proven track record. TN was an obs scam artist from day one.
Brett does hesitate a few times in his responses, but it reads to me as Brett trying to navigate what he can share vs what needs to remain internal secret sauce.
What a robotic wunderkind! He's simply amazing. Hope they go public soon and take my money!
I love the honesty and straight forward time lines.
Excellent interview !! It is a good sign when the CEO can hold a technical argument with an outside expert.
19 months old? Didn't realize Teslabot preceded them having been announced Aug 2021. Both teams' progress are impressive. I would expect lots of convergence in bot form/function moving forward like Android vs Apple.
An amazing young man. He's certainly going to be one of the movers and shakers in robotics. Of all the people that you've had here he's one of the most knowledgeable about the work yet to accomplish.
Great episode, Herbert! And thanks also to Dr. Walter.
This Robot space is going to be so big that until we reach a certain level, anyone joining will be a colleague because they are building together. It is a race that will many many winners at first but eventually (more than a decade or two) before we get to competition. It's like EV's but even more ground up because everyone in this space has to be self contained expert in EVERYTHING with only a few outside businesses to create their supply chains. As for customers, the world is their oyster!
Herbert & Scott the Question you did not ask was about its battery system!!
Congratulations on another great interview Herbert!
Thanks for this ❤
Thank you. I feel privileged to have watched a profound moment in time.
Sad I can only give one thumbs up for this video - excellent.
Herbert - your content is INSANELY good !! This is top shelf interview here with an extremely valuable guest.
Scott - Brett's reactions to your questions are all we need in order to see your vast and super knowledge !
Thanks guys you are the best
Thanks for a great interview.
Herbert, not sure you realize the impact of this video. First of all, what was the most incredible thing about it (even more than the subject matter itself) was the fact that your guest was so open/transparent. This sort of transparency never happens in high technology firms especially those on the cutting edge! I was sort of concerned that Scott might push this young man into divulging things that he shouldn't. Things that the investors might not like that. I think your video will age very well and four to five years from now people will view this and realize how forward looking and insightful this interview really was. Congratulations and here's hoping the human race will be safe from those robots!
Great job Herbert and Scott and what a breath of fresh air to have a CEO of arguably close competitor to Optimus answer honestly to many tough questions. Big kudos to Brett and his team pushing the envelope on the humanoid robots . This is huge for Tesla and competition is a great way to drive innovation.
Thank you so much for this, the three of you.
Wow, just Wow.
I really enjoyed this interview. I also would love someone to run this video through an AI of truth telling based on gesture and mannerisms. He had some tells at critical questions. He is smart. He knows how to tell a story. I do get some Trevor Milton vibes. I want to be wrong.
@mb345 Did you spot the strong armfolding during the capability claims?
What others did you spot?
I was waiting for this interview, congrats Herbert and Scott!
A few theories / observations has been confirmed and Brett’s answers shed new light on several topics. This also changed the perspective for business environment. It is a first money-backed prove that humanoid robots are no longer fancy toys, even though there is still a lot to improve and iterate on.
Great info thank you so much Herbert!
A highly engaging interview!
Additional actuators will be beneficial for the neck and torso. Humans can turn a neck to 45 deg and a torso to 30 deg. Turning requires a lot of energy (legs and torso movements) and rebalancing (multiple body parts).
Neck holds a head with two sensors: eyes and ears. Only eyes need turning. A robot will have various sensors. So for the energy saving a 90 deg turning will be beneficial.
Linear and round actuators have their pros and cons (flexibility vs strength). They will be different for various tasks, in the future.
The holy grail of a humanoid robot is training via vision of others doing a task using a reference body model.
First, robots will be human like, for easier training.
Then, various actuators will be used to better perform designated tasks.
Then, robots will be capable of extrapolating movements of others by visually looking at an object - general purpose training.
Finally, creative movement robots will come to play - a total understanding of the real world physics.
Great interview!
Lots to think about.
He admits that to build a billion bits you will need some world-class manufacturing capability. A huge barrier to entry - these must be custom factories similar in complexity to auto factories. That is a hard game to get into. They will need to use BMW (etc al) to manufacture their bots.
I am impressed by their training capabilities.
So I kind of feel sorry for them - they are going up against Tesla's world-class manufacturing capacity and deep pockets.
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I think training is going to go extremely quickly.
* I expect current VR goggles/controls could be used to allow millions of remote trainers. A camera watching you move while you watch through the simulated robot eyes...
* Users remote control a simulated robot in some simple scenario. This becomes training data.
* Humans will happily do it for free. Training a robot is more interesting than watching a video - in-game tokens are awarded for AI training. Etc. "Are you human "- captcha...
We could have a vast library of training data immediately.
When I first heard the news I thought that BMW would be the manufacturing partner, not just an end user. I think Brett will need a manufacturing partner, or their ramp to volume production will take several more years. Is there a realistic clear path to volume production? I’m also not clear on their AI abilities and future AGI potential and who’s producing their chips.
I wonder which robot will have less parts NEO, Figure, Phoenix, Apollo or Optimus, this is exiting times!
Am I the only one having a Trevor Milton feeling in the way Brett talks about the prospects of his company? 🤔
100% That was my comment as well! just put out some crap video which honestly I can do at home with the amount of machine learning they performed. The cool thing is they are able to convert the training into robot movement which is halfway to getting AI to work with your robot. Obviously BMW and others fell for it but I would estimate they will need at least 2-3 years to deploy one if they are serious and work their butts off.
I'm glad Figure is taking on the challenge. This interview has made me more skeptical on their timelines, however. They need training data, they need compute for training sets, they need to figure out manufacturing and scalability. They are years away from anything beyond a handful of (very expensive) test bots that require a lot of babysitting & only work in very isolated use cases.
Congratulations on a real scoop Herbert. I have thought a lot about this interview. It seems to me that Figure is doing good work but is still only at about the same level of advancement as Tesla. As Brett said they have a lot of work ahead of them not only to get it working with real work but to scale manufacturing. I do think that BMW is keen to be seen as keeping up with Tesla, though, and exploring the humanoid robot is part of that. By allowing Figure to associate itself with the BMW brand is also a sign they want to look like Tesla. Will BMW tough it out, though, through the expensive and long time this will take? Maybe. Can Figure keep the funding flooding in. Figure is a small company. On the other hand Tesla's robot team is a totally integrated part of the company. Tesla will not run out of money or commitment to the task and Tesla can put it's robot to work anywhere within its factories or send it off to space to see how it goes weightless. I'll bet Elon is busting have one filmed one strapped in on a Starship.
What are the compute needs both to train and then to run?
Love this so much! I am a long time shareholder and follower of archer and love Brett’s vision. I hope I get an opportunity to work with or invest with him in the future!
That was quite informative as well as interesting!
Great catch herbert and scott! 1:20
One way to perhaps generalize a task is to have the trainer narrate in words what they are performing the task. For example the trainer could say, I am picking up a K Cup, and am now opening the coffee machine lid, I am now placing the K cup in the K cup holder, etc.
Thus the robot actions can be linked to language descriptions and the latter can be used to train a LLM that has links to the robot actions.
amazing, Herbert, just amazing job.
What I felt would have been nice to have had a question and answer on what safeguards they envision for AI/bots…
Great questions, guys! 👍
A prototyp is ease production is hard. We'll see
Fantastic info spilled out of the Candy store
👍🏻💯 Awesome chat guys, thank you very much.
Great interview Herbert. Strong questions! I'm pumped about robotics and AI but after watching this I'm even more skeptical about Brett and Figure. Hope things work out and I'll be following from the side with intention to jump in if they show progress but they've got a long road ahead to build any real world value.
I just commented about how I have a Trevor Milton feeling listening to Brett. 😬
@@nabormendonca5742only he had 2 or 3 successful companies already
@@nabormendonca5742You better change that view because there is no Trevor feeling here. Humanoid robots technologies are not EV technologies. Robot technology is widely available as well as talents. The problem is that many people live inside the Tesla bubble and have this wrong perception that Tesla is the only company working in humanoid robots.
Brett appears to have some actual real world business background though.
That was fun. Scott was like a kid on Christmas morning and probably had a million more questions! I wonder if BMW will help them with manufacturing the bot. I can't wait to see their next gen hardware. I hope they address the cabling hanging everywhere in the next iteration. It was interesting that he's not sure if tactile is needed in the hands. I would have thought that was a big enabler for some tasks.
How would designs change to produce a robot actor (totally human like)?
nice deep dive with Brett
The things dese humanoids can do autonomously blows my mind 🤯💫 gotta say this onna da coolest looking humanoids me seen so far 🤩😍 absolutely awesome interview ! 👏🏾🎉
Go Figure🤪
Humanoid factories will be the new 3D printers. Bots making bots. 1st year = Each bot $100K, 2nd year $10k. Fifth year, 5 bots for $100 + free bot curbside recycling container.
Brett is a great counterpoint to Elon's perspective on robotics. They are both on the same basic trajectory but there are so many divergent paths to explore right now, it is good to know that others are following similar goals with an open mind to alternate implementations.
Great interview guys. Thank you.
What a chat!! Thanks Brett
Can't wait for the future!! I need a robot that gives massages!!
Here's a possible plot twist:
-BMW aquires Figure
-BMW builds cars AND robots and competes with Tesla's Optimus
-Figure fails to deliver a proper AI model and adopts LLAMA3 as a Human-Robot interface to solve it AI problem
-The world is filled with Tesla and BMW robots 😂
the race is on
I really like this guy. Like a younger, more humble Elon. He seems authentic and transparent, which I like to see in a company that is building terminators 😅
This coffee machine job activates my leisurely instincts.
Do you know how an accredited investment could invest in Figure? Also how would you compare the opportunity to scale to Tesla Bot?
I'm a plasterer and I have an impaired elbow, I wonder if this would help. Will it be mass produced in the next 5 years?
I could see the mud getting into the robot joints as a problem.
I didn’t hear anything about their AI resources or supply chain. Tesla has had to design their own parts because off the shelf parts are from inferior designs. This is a tough new market to break into as good supply chains do not exist and you have to have an incredible vertical integration.
Great video thanks
End to end neural nets! O.o From what he's saying he's got FSD for a robot done! Just training from here on out! Thats big!
How do I advise my kids in an educational track for these future jobs? Electrical engineering, AI codeing?
AI assisted gerber design for PCBs, especially axial flux harmonic drive actuators
Q 17:18 : Perfect Question ! Unfortunately he didn’t want to reveal any details. Tele-operated data collection is going to be great data to train on, but not scaleable. Watching video would be hugely scalable, but extremely difficult to get working; especially well. Simulation would probably be needed developed to clean the perceived task of watching video… how to train effectively at scale is the challenge imo
What are your thoughts on Tesla's capability?
@@erickbratt9804 Its hard to tell. Mechanically it looks like a great start, but the capability is completely dependent on the quality and quantity of training. FSD should provide Optimus with an amazing base (world model) to build off of. But I haven't seen a great way to train optimus specific task. (FSD has a near perfect system of millions of cars and drivers collecting input/output data, and look how long its taking.) Optimus needs a boost there. It would be nice to see:
Tesla using e2e nn for walking. (Its robotic grampa gate is depressing :) ) end2end nn (like fsd 12) is young, so patience i guess.
No doubt Tesla is quickly hacking away at the challeges. Hopefully we get a better idea hows its going soon
@@justinmallaiz4549 thoughts on scaling data/ training by deploying a new Tesla uniform fitted with camera+sensors to 100+ Tesla Frontline workers?
@justinmallaiz4549 - What kind of video would be most useful as training data? Do you think that large amounts of documentaries and training films would work in the same way that text scraping worked for LLMs?
What kind of quantity do you think that we are talking about to be considered useful training data? TB? PB? EB?
@@erickbratt9804 possibly. 100's of suits might be okay for simple repetitive jobs standing at a work station. Diverse jobs like house work or worse a construction site could take million+. Doable and likely to start, but I'm not sure how you convince lots of volunteer workers to wear the suit later on :)
More companies trying to build humanoid robots and the brian/software to drive it is great. Not only good for the economy, but it will drive the market to try to value this business opportunity. And once they start valuing humanoid robot effort, Tesla stock is likely to get a big boost.
Robot makers should be partnering with WiTricity, wireless electricity would be a natural fit
I wonder how many takes it took to get the robot to properly complete the task of working the coffee maker.
Will robots have a “relaxed” mode like humans? Noticed the coffee maker robot extended fingers after it finished.
Hopefully the CEO is reading the comments. You may not have noticed on the Tesla bought, but it is 100% designed for a high number production. Count the number of bolts attaching things. You have one bolt and one plug. Attaching a leg to a hip. The hands look to be attached with only three bolts and one plug. Everything below the knee looks to be made up of maybe 10 pieces total. Tesla has hyper focused on extraordinary ease of production and production speed. Only those that are mimicking this will be able to keep up. This this unboxed design will be the most important thing when it comes to having the robots build themselves. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to help.
These are definitely important design elements, but the idea that the CEO of the world's most exciting AI company has the time to wade through the dumpster fire that is TH-cam comments is extremely fanciful. ;-)
Best video ever!
Is anyone going to talk about what happened on 48:33 🤔🤔
This validate Elon and Tesla used cases and AI business model with Optimus bot let see the rate of adaptation
Sign language training would help AI learn what hands do.
No way they’ll be able to scale like TSLA can.
They can now that that they have BMW on board.
Was it said that BMW would be its manufacturing partner? I didnt think that was said.
@@christopherd.winnan8701 lol no they can’t. Bmw is being used for data, first of all. And even if bmw were manufacturing they couldn’t come close to what Tesla can do.
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Sounds like he wants to evolve his barista robot into an amazon employee. Tesla will be focused on training a bot to build a car and getting a bot to build a lot of bots. Having a dedicated factory is really important to building your base logic for a general purpose manufacturing tool.
Tesla has the factories, that gives them a focus, a huge understand of manufacturing at scale. Having the right focus for the first general-purpose ai robot is really import. They really have to start with an all in partner, and especially get serious investment and cooperative work with the best partners. In failing to get partnerships that bring early money, Figure will do an early raise of more capital just to be able to build at scale.
What a hype on figger. A humanoid roboter. A partnership whith BMW. Do they pay for the faktory they have to build to produce a significant number?
Just curious of what IG Metall thinks about that?
We need a lot of robots, and so the more companies who do this the better we will all be. But the problem is not AI, since time will take care of that. The problem is reaching scale. Elon said it best - “Prototype is easy, production is hard.”
AGI won’t just pop up on its own. Yes it’s true that AI progress is will occur, but It relies on people creating it. Tesla definitely have the edge in manufacturing over all other bot companies.
@@jhunt5578 When I said time will take care of AI, I didn’t say that work won’t be needed to make that happen, but I’m saying that this isn’t the major problem. This is because of the sheer amount of people working at an open source way on solving AGI. And so it will happen. Then ofcourse Figure needs to do specific training for their robot, but all things considered, this is the easier part. Manufacturing at scale is really, really super hard. It’s about 1,000 times harder than the prototype.
@michelstronguin6974 I accept that manufacturing is hard. But building an AI capable robot to carry out human level work had never been done before. Manufacturing products at scale has been done before. So between the 2 the one that has never been achieved before is the harder one IMO. It's not worth having manufacturing capabilities for vapourware.
@@jhunt5578Yes, making robots that don’t have AGI would be silly. But what I’m saying is that whether Figure works on making AGI or not, it will happen. And then they can either license the AGI capable software, or more likely, they will develop AGI based on the principles of how others reached it. I’m saying that we are in an inexorable trajectory towards AGI. It will happen. But what fails to happen a lot is reaching mass production without going bankrupt first. Why do you think Tesla was the only car company in decades that has reached mass production? Most who tried simply died trying. Reaching scale is not inevitable for Figure, unlike reaching AGI which is inevitable.
I think perhaps a fabless company concept like Nvidia could also be a long term option for companies like Figure. Or they will be just crushed by Teslas fabrication capabilities but at least they will have tried and contributed to the next big thing and there are little to no more noble and admirable professions/endeavors out there.
Segments of this video will be used in a documentary 50-100 years from now showing when Humanoid Bots were being first created.
wish you asked the most obvious question...did Figure 'be inspired by' (ie, copy) Tesla's design, or did they naturally come with with strikingly similar design organically because it's simply the most logical design?
You mean... humanoid?
It's not like we haven't seen anything similar in sci-fi over the decades.
Tesla didn't come up with a particularly groundbreaking design factor.
ARE THEY BUILDING THERE OWN COMPUTER AI CHIP?
Did I read that they are using the latest Qualcomm SCI?
This guy makes things sound too good to be true. I really hope we don’t have another Nikola CEO here.
Reading between the lines and Brett’s body language, it sounds like they have an option for BMW to be a Manufacturing Production Partner.
That’s one step away from the Figure Investor - Chris Camillo’s other interview statements inference that Figure would sell out. That seems to be the these of Brett’s previous startups.
Just connecting the dots…. 🥴
Brett is too young to sell out. He's in it for the long run. Can raise capital and keep his equity. Agree that manufacturing is hard and he looked concerned about how to make millions to billions of bots.
Were you told not to ask him about his largest competition, Tesla?
Brett Adcock seems like a nice kid with big ideas. When he talks about manufacturing and delivery and them global scaling he seems nervous, even metions having to learn the manufacturing end of things. My feeling is if the company did not partner with every handout offered to them they might potentally make mistakes at the high levels and tank the company due to inexperience. Elon said that Tesla's main attribute in the future will be in manufacturing, also Tesla does not need any helping hand from anyone in any area of producing the bot. Brett Adcock and his team are trying to develop an AI system. I don't feel very inspired by the guy, the team in the back ground seem to be moving pretty slow lol. I wonder how many bot they have? maybe just the one? concepts are easy manufacturing is hard. My bet is on Tesla,
as the stronger company, Perhaps with all the big players helping Brett and his team they can "figure" it out. My feeling is they needed this thing solved like yesterday or Tesla will take an insurmountable lead.
These are bold claims, but check out Brett's body language at the 12.20 mark when he starts making claims about everything his bot can do. The brow wipe at 12.45 is especially noticeable. He seems much more stressed when making these claims and so it would be interesting to hear from a body language expert on this behaviour. Maybe I am over analysing......
Good guest. But my money is with Elon Musk and Tesla on getting to a workable bot first. Tesla knows its manufacturing process whereas Figure is working for others. Tesla also has more resources. Figure CEO is expected to pump his company a bit.
100% correct. But fun to watch others play the game. It’s very clear Tesla is going to win this given their immense technical, experiential and financial resources.
Yes. I forgot to mention in the interview that data sets and learning are a problem for FIgure bot. Tesla, I believe will win in this area. I think the hardware side you will see many entrants. @@papafamilias92010
Figure has one big advantage over Tesla, a CEO who is 100% focused and who works full time.
Elon heads five different multi-billion dollar companies and rarely sleeps. He works at Tesla high level which is all he needs to. Tesla has an army of top people. Tesla is an 700B market cap company with 26B cash compared to Figure? @@michelangelobuonarroti916
Very impressive interview. I believe this space will explode into 20 or so companies. There may be 5 to 6 winners in 6 to 10 years.
If Figure is as far as they are along, what are the chances Optimus is on a similar ramp? Someone ask $tsla if they have received similar interest with potential customers (regardless of whether they are offering).