What about Jackie Chan? Or a wrongly accused man facing a jury? Or Zebras vs. Lions? Or Wolves vs. Caribou? Bears vs. Salmon? Moby Dick vs. that ship he f*cked up?
@@Nicholas-m1n I want whatever drives a honey badger. They are crazy & have no fear of 6 lions. Their prey is venomous snakes, they get poisoned for an hour while it courses thru their bodies and wake back up. Bottle that!! I'll buy the 1st 2 cases. I haven't rechecked in a while but utube doesn't have much about them. They are a favorite,
If this became a regular event, imagine if the Gorillas started to adapt to learn that a larger community is better for safety. Maybe they could start to have several males banding their groups together for a safe existence?
Would be an adaptation, not from a genetic change, if it happened in the near future. For gorillas to evolve into different behaviors, it would take some time and generational genetic changes.
These sort adaptations have been going on for millions of yrs. whatever those adaptations may be. NO WAY war is new in this neck of the woods, for any of them.
@@Itsmeagain828or not. many species went extinct because they couldn't adapt. if the chimpanzees kill the small gorillas systematically the gorillas will have no chance to make bigger communities even if the adults survive( because considering what chimpanzees do, they would have to survive without D!cks) and figure out they should but it also means giving up their individual pride and females for an alpha because their females value dominance the most and I don't see how would that change soon.
@@Mrbfgray Agreed, the only thing that could be new is habitat destruction by humans, but the species observed in this video I believe lived in national parks where said destruction doesn't take place. Unless someone can prove that pressure by humans caused these apes to fight over the remains, then this must be phenomenon that's millions of years old.
25 gorillas isn't uncommon which is 5 times as many as the video example. Even if gorillas were able to constantly maintain group size ratios of 1:2 or even just 1:3 though they're still very predictable. Chimps are a lot more intelligent, they're able to divide up, separate and target other chimps in opposing groups easily enough, applying the same tactics to gorillas is in fact much easier for them. Gorillas are gonna have to migrate really, if it continues to exacerbate anyway.
@@CoffeeFiend1nah they just need to stop getting jumped they where outnumbered 20plus in all witnessed encounters and only 1 male, furthermore gorillas need to cut that chest beating and fake charging "alpha male" shit out and actually fight
This honestly makes the killing of Harambe even sadder. I know the zoo didn't want to chance a human deletion by one of their animals, but the fact he probably wouldn't have harmed the child makes that whole situation more depressing.
I’m from Cameroon West Africa a neighbouring country sharing boundaries with Gabon where the incident in this video occurred, chimps recently tore off the face of a man in a forest region of our country, the pictures and video are painful to watch.
Chimps are incredibly dangerous. What they do to each other is brutal. I always have to wonder about those people who get them as pets as babies and do no research. As soon as they hit teen years someone gets their face ripped off
No. H.Sapien only exists because neanderthals and H.Sapiens produce infertile children. Neanderthals preferred breeding with H.Sapien females after ending the H.Sapien males but over time the neanderthals stopped having neanderthal children and only H.Sapiens were left. They used to eat us, we never beat them, H.Sapien to a neanderthal is the same as pron is to humans.
Nah. Chimpanzees ( _Pan troglodytes_ ) vs Bonobos ( _Pan paniscus_ ) is pretty much Modern human ( _Homo sapiens_ ) vs Neanderthals ( _Homo neanderthalensis_ ). But I don't know if those two have fought.
Okay let's be very clear here! A group of chimps will not beat a group of adult gorillas. The gorillas were hugely out numbered on both occasions and lost only the infant now imagine if those 20 chimps had attacked the nest area where there could be 12+ gorillas on the ground as well as young male gorillas !
It's the personality difference though? Gorillas are actually nice and peaceful while chimps are just fucking insanely violent! They've killed numerous people while no human has ever been proven to been killed by a silverback gorilla! Chimps are psychotic little bull terriers while gorillas are big peaceful Newfoundlands!
I know. From King Kong to Planet of the Apes, Hollywood has given us a distorted view of apes. Chimpanzees were always seen as the nice guys and cute like monkeys, and gorillas always played the heavy. That infamous chimp attack I think woke up the world to the real truth of the matter.
Nature got tired of human shit it’s called gorrila warfare not guerilla it’s funny how they’ll just run when they know they’ll die even if they rip a limb lmao
Anyone who goes regurarly into the gym rips you apart including roiders. People who squat 250kg do not just squat 250kg. They grab you and you're done. Only trained fighters can do something but people sitting on TH-cam and shitting on bodybuilders aren't usually trained fighters. The gorilla injured 3 chimps by the way.
@robertmusil1107 relax bro are you the one on roids? He was poking fun at Gorillaz lol chill. And who cares if the gorilla injured three chimps? Considering their size, you would think they would have a bigger advantage than that. Gorillas are herbivores they're not natural fighters at all they're not aggressive at all they don't like confrontation at all they have no canine teeth or snout for biting. They have no claws. They're just not very dangerous animals relative to their size especially. It injured three chimps but also died cheese brain. Maybe cool it on the dumbbells and go hit a library.
Chimpanzees are very violent and at the same time they are typical punks. They are very intelligent, they usually attack when they have a numerical advantage against other species' and even against their own species. They are even cannibalistic and have been seen being torturous. Thankfully, a lot of people have stopped keeping them as "pets, for the sake of the chimps and for the sake of innocent humans. Hopefully, nature will adapt the way it usually does, and gorillas will do what they need to do to keep themselves safe from chimpanzees and any other animals that may attempt to take advantage of their generally peaceful behavior.
@@davidkomen5283 No it was a gorilla troop. Meaning one lone silverback with females and a juvenile. And the silverback still took out 8 chimps on his own
@@mmaphilosophy yes, gorillas are incredibly strong but they don’t use such strength as they are not violent. On the other side, chimps are the one of the most violent and wildest animals. In a group, they can easily take down a gorilla. Even leopards are known to pray on gorillas. Just strength doesn’t matter. A pack of loins can take on an adult elephant so a group of chimps can take on a gorilla easily. Just go and see how violent chimp can be. There are some documentaries on youtube.
No, people always massively overestimate the strength of apes to be 10x stronger than humans. Humans can literally delete each other with their bare hands, there are humans who can literally lift an actual metric tonne, doubling that strength is still insane.
@@SarahMatthew-x8d yeah, chimps 2-3 times stronger than humans I agree on that, but again, don't forget you can't just make a chimp show his strength, it's an estimation... With a good technique they are probably stronger than just 2-3 times...
@@HardPlay01 that's not true, if you just google that you find that they are just 1.5 stronger on average but if you compare the dynamic force and power of a cimpanzee muscle to a human muscle of the same size it is only 1.35 times stronger. so although the chimps are stronger than us on average humans make up for that by being bigger than them on average, a male human can be more than 200 pounds while a male chimp is 130pounds at best
@HolyTeacup-bc9uc Well, I take your point... even the infamous Travis, (I daresay you're familiar with the story), who left a woman for dead after tearing/biting her face off (and that was just _one_ of the horrendous injuries he inflicted!) -- well, a _human being_ who'd had the upbringing he'd had would probably have been a time bomb! Not that he'd been beaten or obviously neglected or anything like that; if anything he was _spoilt,_ and indulged far too much, but from what I remember (I'm taking all this from memory, so you can take that as you like! Information about the Travis case is easily found, details on the other case might be a little more elusive, but they're out there...) but anyway yeah, as far as I recall, as well as having a diet of junk food, the chimp, after for years having had, pretty well, the freedom of the city, was under 'house arrest' after having had his 'wings clipped' following some 'incidents', and was likely feeling resentment for being unjustly punished, from his perspective. (As is well known, even if I'm putting it a bit simplistically, chimps have the mind of a toddler!) Add in the fact that he was sexually frustrated and must have longed for company of his own kind - I can't remember if he'd ever even encountered other chimpanzees, but I don't think it's giving him too much credit to surmise that he must have felt a dreadful sense of existential dislocation! That, and that tellingly, he was addicted to the tranquilizers used to moderate his moods... All in all, it's like, how could it _not_ have ended badly?! (For him too, when the cops, needless to say, shot him dead. Apparently the look of "I don't understand, Mommy - what did I do?" as he died in his owner's arms was heartbreaking - but, y'know, tell that to the woman who had to endure years of painful reconstructive surgery, and no doubt undergoes a degree of 'existential dislocation' herself, when she looks in a mirror, as a result of his terrifying fit of rage...) Another case that comes to mind - I'm sorry if I'm a little sketchy on the details, but I believe I have it essentially correct - was this guy who owned a chimp, and, I seem to remember, he came into possession of this chimp more or less 'innocently' - in other words, it wasn't like he thought owning a chimpanzee would be 'Awesome', or that the chimp was "A _darling_ little baby (Ah look, he's 'smiling'...!)" or anything idiotic like that. I think he'd either rescued, or inherited, him from a research lab of some kind, and that he was a responsible owner, or at least, more responsible than most. Unfortunately the day came when he had to surrender the animal, and again, to be fair, I think it was a little more complicated than simply "I'm so sick of the cat scratching up the furniture/having to take this dog for walks" - type of scenario, ie, his hand was forced by a city ordinance, or perhaps his home circumstances had unforeseeably changed, or something. Anyway the chimp ended up in a shelter or something, the guy was all torn up about it, and perhaps it was the chimp's birthday (or 'birthday'), or something, but he had the idea of bringing his old buddy a big cake, whether by way of apology or to try and buy his way back into his favours or whatever. Now admittedly things get a little confusing at this point, and not realising I'd have to write a piece on it down the road, my memory of events is hazy; but as best I can remember, there was initially joy unconfined when human & chimp were re~united, and when the cake came out, that was - well - 'the icing on the cake!' (I know, I deserve shooting!) Apparently though, the 'new kid on the block' getting all this adulation, let alone the sweet treats, this was not going down too well with "Chimp of the Day's" comrades, but, if I have the sequence of events correct, whether he was motivated by a sense of fair play, or it was just to quiten them down, but the guy at the centre of this story, he decides to share out the cake amongst the entire company of chimps. This was where things took a dramatic, and tragic, turn South. Viewed from the point of view of the original chimp (remember - that toddler logic and toddler narcissism! Everyone's a 'Narcissist' these days, primates may as well get in on the act!) -- first of all, his Pops sends him to Borstal× for no discernable reason; then, a couple of weeks later, give or take, he shows up - full of remorse, and surely there with no other purpose than to crave Pongo's(? 🤷♂️) forgiveness and bring him back to hearth & home where a discreet veil may be drawn over the whole shameful episode, and it never be spoken (pant~hooted) of again; after all, why _else_ would his erstwhile hotelier brought this gift, this ambrosia of the Gods, but to cement their noble and affectionate partnership ... But wait! What _treachery_ is this?! Seemingly that initial portion of cake was no more than a cruel tease - you watch as, unbelievably, this creep, this _JUDAS_ shares out _your_ swag amongst these - these _Bozos!_ Talk about an F.U! Fury descends! Something snaps -- a red mist starts to permeate everything! (What is it about Chimpanzees and sugary, fatty treats?! One has to figure that for animals used to a diet of salad and bugs; perhaps on a good day, and depending on situation in the hierarchy, some fruit or even a few scraps of meat - that foods like cake, or ice~cream (which confection - or the lack of it - figured largely somehow, apparently, in Travis' rampage) must for some non~human primates be not unlike Crack Cocaine or Methamphetamine is to humans. Hell, for some _Humans,_ cake and ice cream _is_ like Meth or Crack!) I honestly can't remember when the dust settled if the victim managed to keep his 'dangly bits'... I'm not even kidding! I think his trousers may have saved him from _catastrophic_ injury in this respect. What couldn't be mentioned in the video is that it is an absolutely characteristic hallmark of chimpanzee attacks in the wild that they target their victims sex organs. I do know that the man who suffered this attack, motivated by a sheer jealous rage (and perhaps yes, a sense of wounded unfairness and betrayal?!) lost, at the very least, a number of fingers. People who have come face to face with chimpanzees invariably comment that when you look in their eyes, you are not looking at some 'dumb beast'... Rather, you get the uncanny sense that there is an intelligence 'in there', looking back at you, _regarding_ you. In this case, the victim related that the thing that was ultimately most disturbing was the very real sense he got, even as the attack was unfolding, that his one~time companion, irrespective of the fact that he had gone berserk, _consciously_ wished to inflict the maximum amount of damage, was intent on doing so in a systematic fashion, and knew just how to do so! Of course, one thing that does come across loud and clear in both these cases is that neither tragedy need have occur had it not been for human miscalculation at best, if not out and out human stupidity and (as I _think_ you said) hubris. Undoubtedly many will rush to point out the Chimpanzee attacks on their Gorilla cousins are being triggered by their respective populations being forced into tighter confines and competition for resources as man (natch!) encroaches on the territories of both; and no doubt, at least to a degree, they are correct. I realize it's probably unfair to describe chimps as loathsome when, even if they are at times possessed of human like malevolence, their intelligence, while unquestionably keen, is comparable with that of only a small human child. A tribe of chimps may be intent on wiping out their neighbours, or at any rate, their males, but to ascribe to them the morality of an E•••mann or a H•••ler would obviously be nuts! And frighteningly, the comparison of chimps with human toddlers goes both ways - never mind the morality, who would be suicidal enough to taunt a small child with an ice~cream only to whip it away, if that child was armed with a pistol?! Chimpanzees occupy a kind of disconcerting 'uncanny valley' where - unlike humans who are able to hit the override button, or dogs (say), which as you point out have been selectively bred for thousands of generations - they are entirely subject to the tides of evolution; but at the same time they are possessed of a degree of intelligence and agency, and an emotional life - for better or worse(!) - that are at least comparable with those of humans. If my initial comment was more or less throwaway, I ended up writing a thesis! To sum it up, though - I don't entirely know _how_ I feel about chimps, but for all their cheeky~but~adorable brand image, I wouldn't get too dewy eyed about these wild animals - I think I'd sooner conduct a gynaecological examination on one of these 'devil dogs', one with a colourful background that came up on the _bad_ side of town, than voluntarily have dealings with a chimp I was unfamiliar with - or even one that I _was(!)_ - without some under~the~counter pepper spray and a taser - or better yet, a .38 - ready to hand! ×'Borstal' - Reform School.
being able to direct their aggression toward other groups and being able to move in silence despite liking being noisy seems like control over impulses. so it's obviously an empty assumption researchers made because it wasn't observed in captivity and because they thought this qualities belong to humans.
This mis-guided slander of our own species is both factually incorrect and wholly unhelpful. Name one species that would be willing to sacrifice its own quality of life for another. Name one species that would have any qualms about wiping out another species, either intentionally or unintentionally. Humans are literally the only ones. We choose to keep species alive that would kill us without a second thought. We pay with our own resources to keep species alive that are of no obvious benefit to us. If you still want to compare humans to chimps then your cynicism has gone too far. Out of every single animal in the animal kingdom, with the exception of domesticated dogs, humans are by far the most capable of kindness and empathy. There is a reason you wouldn't want to share a cage with 90% of the animal kingdom and it's not because humans are oh-so-evil. It's because humans are the only species that is even capable of comprehending such concepts. Every other animal sees a threat and kills it.
You kind of got the chimp's diet incorrect. They're omnivores and hunt more than just bush babies, they're known to hunt various species of monkeys. Gorillas, on the other hand, are primarily vegetarians and if they eat any animal protein, I don't think that it would be anything more than the occasional insect.
Do you mean to tell me the video that takes 2 incidents of violence between specices and extrapolated it into a geopolitical conflict and total warfare got some details wrong..... color my not surprised at all.
Pure vegetarians are extremely rare, most "vegetarians" are opportunistic feeders. Nature doesn't waste fat and protein. When you see a cow or a horse eat a dead squirrel or mouse for the first time it catches you off guard because it's not what they teach you in school, but the reality is nature is much more adaptable and efficient then we think.
Depends on which ones. Eastern ones wage war and kill each other. As their numbers increase back toward normal, food competitions returns back to normal, and they are starting to return to their natural behavior (which includes lots of violence, more than one male per group, etc
@@tylerdurden3722 That's new to me.I even know of Africans and foreigners going in the jungle and deleting them with machetes easily. So the idea of them being violent waging war doesn't seem right to me? 🤔 Maybe you mean chimps?
Animals can't be evil they are simply what they are animals and behave like what they are animals it's what is animals are born killers if your pet kills it's not evil it's animal doing what it's born to do kill so keep animals in the wild where they belong
The reason why this is happening is the fact that their land is being destroyed by humans making living space smaller and smaller. When this happens the food sources go way down and a fight for survival is a definite to happen. Gorillas will take out quite a few chimps but usually they are in large numbers where there is one dominant male rest are females babies and a younger brother that stays in the back most of the time. That's not enough when there are 15 to 20 chimps coming to fight. But it's been said that since this has started other gorillas that try and stay away from each other are living closer than usual. For if an attack comes they will fight together and that's not going to be good for the chimps. If this doesn't calm down the gorillas will most likely force the chimps to go do other things. They are smart and will realize they are fighting against a stronger and bigger pact then normally.. it's horrible, humans just keep destroying this planet and all that lives on it. We won't be here much longer as humans will kill the planet with everything living thing on it, matter of time
@@minxella12 - They are very predictable. Watch….I predict that if you remove them from their natural habitat, deny them natural relationships with their own kind, share beds with them, bathe with them, and drug them up they’ll rip your face off in return when they hit puberty.
Yeah, you have to question this entire video after the narrator said that male gorillas were only twice as strong as humans. This whole story might be made up just to get views.
Chimpanzees also eat meat, which they've been known to hunt. Sometimes, they will turn on and eat their own. As far as using military tactics go, we humans tend to forget that evolution never stops.
@LadyMaven This has probably happened before but this the first time people are seeing this for themselves I don't think this is anything new..it's new to us
They cannibalize rival tribes and wage wars against rivals. They are really dangerous. There are two types of Chimpanzees. Bonobos are the peaceful type.
A full-grown chimp can literally rip a human arm off with its bare hands. Then bite your face off with canines as long as your pinky finger. They are formidable foes by themselves, let alone in a pack.
One of the things that probably makes Chimpanzees more aggressive and violent is they have a higher testosterone level than other primates. Bonobos that are closely related to Chimpanzees have a lower testosterone level are less aggressive and violent. Bonobos are more loving with each other.
"Male bonobos in fact fight each other more often than male chimps do-and the bonobo "bad boys" who have more dust-ups also see greater mating success." Google the scientific article. Your leftist ideas of "matriarchy = peace" are bullshit based on no reality and just another form of propaganda.
although its true that bonobos are more peaceful in general because they are matriarchal and thus dont resort to vioIence as often, new studies revealed that male bonobos specifically are actually more aggressive than male chimps. Male bonobos show aggressive behavior more often than chimps, however since, unlike chimps, male bonobos do not "gang up" on each other they therefore rarely ever actually fatally hurt each other.
In fact we only represent nature, she never cares and expansion and survival of the species is the only goal, we humans are quite human, it is the animal in us which is problematic not the ratio.
That's almost every animal. Hadn't seen a dog in a while, except on the internet where you can stare into their big dumb eyes all you want. Then I saw the cutest shepard mixed something puppy and stared it right in the eyes as I approached, he got sooooo pissed and scared, yapping like a nut.
I read that they did a study of chimpanzee muscle strength and came up with pound for pound a chimp's muscle is 1.5 to 2 times stronger than a human muscle so saying a silverback gorilla is only overall 1.5 to 2 times as strong as an average non-weightlifter human is an error.
Where do u get that numbers from lol, them being 2 time stronger could be correct if they are talking pounds for pounds since they weight around 450lbs on average and almost pure muscles.
A chimp should be anywhere around 1.3 - 1.5 times stronger than the average human, maybe the range should be a little higher, but I doubt 2x the strength. Also, you need to have mentioned the strength type, because sure, chimps may have superior pulling and lifting strength, but what about striking strength? Just because you are stronger at one category doesn't necessarily mean you are stronger overall. But if that's the type of strength you're talking about then sure.
Yep, when the narrator said that a male silverback was 1.5 to 2x stronger, I immediately thought that was a bit off the mark. I'd say that's more in line with a male adult chimpanzee as a few others have said. Obviously, it's a bit of a challenge asking a gorilla to kindly bench press or deadlift for you and go for his one rep max. One thing that I believe has been measured fairly accurately for both chimps and gorillas is bite force with both measuring about 1300 psi. To put it in perspective, the average adult human bite force is under 200 psi. If our bite force was much stronger, our teeth would probably just break. It's no wonder that chimps can chew off hands and faces with relative ease when humans have had a bad experience with them.
"humans shouldn't interfere" i mean, we took their habitat (and food) away which could definitely be a reason for this behaviour, we already interfered.
They have the right mix of functional intelligence and zero empathic development to be extremely dangerous. I have never liked monkeys of any genre or thought of them as 'cute'.
I think if you raised a monkey it’s usually different then a wild monkey. Like some monkeys have killed their owner. But so have some tigers. And some tiger owners are still alive.😅
"Up until now, chimps haven't attacked gorillas, but there's a first time for everything..." What a strange thing to say?!? It might not be documented on film before... I can agree with you on that one...😉 Chimps has always been aggressive by nature, except the "pygmy chimp", known as Bonobo🥰 The Bonobo uses sex to end all conflicts, with the result that there's as good as zero aggressiveness within the group, and also when they meet other Bonobos in the area. Sorry... I degaussed from the topic...😅 Chimps has always had a violent side, and been fighting other primates for territory and food... And as you say, the only way for them to make a kill, is to tear the capture animal piece by piece... Chimpanzees are also the only primates, except humans, that craves meat... They need the protein, and everyone in the group really wants (and needs) it in their diet... So for God's sake... it's not the humans that has "pushed" the poor chimps to kill each others, monkeys and different mammals in the most bestialised and terrible ways... if anything, I think it's more likely that us, the homo sapient "stole" it from our cousin😊
@@zitherzon2121, I am not sure if you meant it as a serious comment, or a sarcastic one...🤔 So I "answer" both scenarios: Thank you very much😇🙏 And I will also laugh with you, just in case...😂😅 Wish you all the best:)
I find it hard to believe that this is the first time this has ever happened and that human beings just happened to be there to witness it I don't believe that
Yeah it sounds like a script written for a project in grade 8. "To play with members of other troops, sometimes chimpanzees will travel over a thousand feet" Wow such a vast distance
I wonder if over time these attacks my cause a certain artificial selection in which non violent gorillas get weeded out and only more aggressive gorillas survive creating a new breed of vicious gorillas.
@@brandonbridge371 that was my thought, although I'll admit a part of me wishes it were unnatural and that aggression weren't so predominant and successful in the world (whatever species). It's strange wishing or even conceiving of a world of collaborative creatures living in communal balance when our reality is so counter to that notion.
@@sparkythancztwiseif it makes you feel better agression and cruelty works... to a point. When you start dealing with larger and more complex organizations violence simply gets thwarted. Ie. Agressive Bull elephants being chased off or bank roberries resulting in the robber getting fake money with a tracker. Also another comment mentioned deforestation
@@ClaytonCatlin A chimpanzee would be 2 times as strong as a human, a gorilla would be way more a silverback would easily be 10 times the strength of a human.
Not really, the way we kill each other now is much more sophisticated & much less messier & gruesome than literally tearing each other apart with our hands. Spears & swords are much more elegant & deadly, and with guns, you don’t even have to get any blood on you. With missions & nukes, the enemy is usually dead before they even notice anything.
Intelligence is a survival tool just like a house cats teeth and claws. You going to tell me cats are sick and insane when they kill birds and rodents when they dont even eat them. Its survival, the chimps are trying to chase off others that eat food they need. Its not sick or insane, if anything you are more insane for claiming it is.
Humans are extremely compassionate. We're the only species that really shows compassion or Mercy or anything like that. Quit focusing on the negative aspects of humanity. We're not perfect but we're far above animals. I'm not saying animals are evil or anything, but living based on your instinct, you can't expect much goodness or fairness to come from animals. They're either neutral like grills, or they're brutal. Intelligence actually has the opposite of what you're saying. Intelligence allows us to rise above our brutal instinctive desires and actually show compassion and care for one another. I don't know about you but I've never really met anyone in my life who has ripped someone's limbs off.
Eh, what's important for us to understand is that the chimps may be more like humans in their motives. Humans do not always kill each other for real, tangible reasons. It's not always about competition over resources. Sometimes we just don't like each other. Chimps may similarly be doing these things partly on a whim. After all, scarcity is not all that new.
I think that loss of habitat makes groups fight more and harder over the grounds that are available making the larger groups that are more aggressive the way to go forcing any competition to also be very aggressive and brutal. I think it’s a combo that starts with the limited ground being more of a high commodity that takes more brutal warlike ways to maintain it.
Sorry to disappoint, but chimps hunt weekly, war on each other, and if you bother do do research you'll discover that the only Great Ape that is a vegetarian are small groups of humans.
6:14 When the narrator said that when the chimps go to war, they go into stealth mode and become silent, I can imagine the chimps doing hand signals to each other and pointing directions like a special ops team.
Haha you're not going to notice any evolutionary differences in a single lifetime. They're human like behaviors have probably existed for thousands and thousands of years, they're just rare to see. Plus our ability to document things with video cameras has improved a lot in recent years
No, humans are just apes. I absolutely abhor this idea that humans are somehow separate and distinct from other beasts, particularly apes. They are literally our closest phylogenetic relative.
They are not acting more like human, they are acting like how a ape adapted to omnivore diet would act, we are also a type of ape with an omnivorous diet
Actually the general consensus is chimps are on average approximately 1.5 times stronger. They used to think they were far stronger but more recent data shows those earlier estimates were wrong.
@FrancesLocke Considering some humans can be 4 or 5 times stronger than the average human who exactly is the chimp 1.5x stronger than? Average human or a power lifter?
A study done years ago showed that a 100lb female chimp hit 1300lbs of force generated in a one armed pull of a dynamometer "in a fit of rage" unbraced. They got college football players to pull the same device with two ahnds and feet braced on a wall, 500lbs was the maximum
No, from my understanding "chimping out" comes from....well, I better not say it, or TH-cam might cancel me for violating their terms. You get my drift.
According to more recent research both gorillas and chimps are less strong than they used to think. Though I think you’re correct about gorillas being stronger than they said in this video.
WATCH EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE FROM 1981 AND WATCH CLYDE THE ORANGATAUNG STRIP AN OLD SCHOOL METAL CADILLAC BY HAND AND TELL ME THEY ARE NOT AS STRONG AS WE THINK.
Chimpanzee is proven to be 3 times stronger than adult human male. (They use their hands and legs to climb tree on daily basis, they need physical strenght to survive) And gorillas jaws are among strongest in animal kingdom. This video is so wrong.
I'm terrified of Chimpanzees and couldn't finish watching the video. Perhaps I'm being silly, however, there are many videos of their violent behavours that make me glad I'm living on the Canadian prairies.
@@robertdemon3550in the wild most monkeys or baboons have no fear of women. Baboons will run from a young boy but won't budge for an adult woman. They also get pretty rapey if said woman is on her period
That’s because you’re disconnected from nature There’s nothing unnatural about a dog digging up some baby rabbits to eat, it’s sad, yes, but completely normal behaviour if not trained out of
Not more disturbing than any other rough animal conflict, orcas, bears, big cats....whatever. It's just that the researchers develop a 'bond' w whatever animals they study, they name them and suffer for them, that'd be hard.
Apes are now considered in the stone age as they are using stones and sticks as tools. Evolution never stops, even we are changing. A good example is the number of women getting C sections. Eventually there will be large groups of women that won't be able to give birth naturally. In lieu of modern medicine these women would have died, leaving women with large enough birth canals to give birth unaided.
Scientists think that they are actually reaching their "Stone Age" right now. A few groups have been sighted making small flint knives and such. You can look it up and check it out if you're interested. It's honestly kind of terrifying. I've always wondered why it took them so long. We, as a species, seem to have won the primate lotto for some reason...who knows why...
Or maybe violence and aggression and intra species competition is just part of nature…animals have been brutally fighting each other for 100s of millions of years. Humans didn’t start this game… they just got best at it
I always wanted to see a Gorilla trained in sign language and also taught how strong they are with some fighting tactics. Then release him back to his group if possible but at least followed to see if he/she passes on their new knowledge, maybe they can evolve into a culture and a evolved language. I'd love to see what the Gorilla's come up with.
Scary idea.....sounds like a movie concept, "Gorilla Wars", i dont think you would translate very well since their body structure is very diferent from ours, maybe battle tactics is what you meant, Gorilla Sun Tzu would be a menace.
Not really, at least not on a time horizon we have calculated. We are just observing and documenting. The idea this behavior constitutes new behavior seems asinine to me.
Whoever says cruelty is exclusive to humans... doesn't know much about animals or nature in general.
Whoever says animals are cruel ... don't know much about humans 🙄
Welcome to the planet of the apes.
I told my cat that while he was playing with a mouse, and he just laughed.
A male elephant was documented killing female elephants. That is never reported because it interferes with fund raising.
@@EmreDemirkayaLovesI dunno I don’t see any difference. Humans are animals after all.
Somone asked a gorilla his perspective on the situation. He said "this shit is CRAZY man!"
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-- so chimpcrazee?
That's sexist man
Anything outnumbered will lose 9 times out of 10. Cmon now.
Tell that to the mosquitos.
joerock8200 vs 2 ants
What about Honey Badgers and Wolverines?
What about Jackie Chan? Or a wrongly accused man facing a jury? Or Zebras vs. Lions? Or Wolves vs. Caribou? Bears vs. Salmon? Moby Dick vs. that ship he f*cked up?
@@Nicholas-m1n I want whatever drives a honey badger. They are crazy & have no fear of 6 lions. Their prey is venomous snakes, they get poisoned for an hour while it courses thru their bodies and wake back up. Bottle that!! I'll buy the 1st 2 cases. I haven't rechecked in a while but utube doesn't have much about them. They are a favorite,
If this became a regular event, imagine if the Gorillas started to adapt to learn that a larger community is better for safety. Maybe they could start to have several males banding their groups together for a safe existence?
They will adapt
Would be an adaptation, not from a genetic change, if it happened in the near future. For gorillas to evolve into different behaviors, it would take some time and generational genetic changes.
These sort adaptations have been going on for millions of yrs. whatever those adaptations may be.
NO WAY war is new in this neck of the woods, for any of them.
@@Itsmeagain828or not.
many species went extinct because they couldn't adapt.
if the chimpanzees kill the small gorillas systematically the gorillas will have no chance to make bigger communities even if the adults survive( because considering what chimpanzees do, they would have to survive without D!cks) and figure out they should but it also means giving up their individual pride and females for an alpha because their females value dominance the most and I don't see how would that change soon.
@@Mrbfgray Agreed, the only thing that could be new is habitat destruction by humans, but the species observed in this video I believe lived in national parks where said destruction doesn't take place. Unless someone can prove that pressure by humans caused these apes to fight over the remains, then this must be phenomenon that's millions of years old.
Gorillas gotta start living in bigger communities now.
25 gorillas isn't uncommon which is 5 times as many as the video example. Even if gorillas were able to constantly maintain group size ratios of 1:2 or even just 1:3 though they're still very predictable. Chimps are a lot more intelligent, they're able to divide up, separate and target other chimps in opposing groups easily enough, applying the same tactics to gorillas is in fact much easier for them. Gorillas are gonna have to migrate really, if it continues to exacerbate anyway.
@@CoffeeFiend1nah they just need to stop getting jumped they where outnumbered 20plus in all witnessed encounters and only 1 male, furthermore gorillas need to cut that chest beating and fake charging "alpha male" shit out and actually fight
@@alphashaitan65Lmaooon
@@CoffeeFiend1 Chimpanzees are absolutely vicious, gorillas and orangutans are more docile.
@@alphashaitan65obsessed it’s crazy 😂
This honestly makes the killing of Harambe even sadder. I know the zoo didn't want to chance a human deletion by one of their animals, but the fact he probably wouldn't have harmed the child makes that whole situation more depressing.
"deletion" 😂
Better late than never, good job catching up with the rest of the class 😔
I know… it’s very sad.
@@GenMasteryeah let’s not say “the death of one of their employees”
They could have tranquilized it not killed it. That poor gorilla.
I’m from Cameroon West Africa a neighbouring country sharing boundaries with Gabon where the incident in this video occurred, chimps recently tore off the face of a man in a forest region of our country, the pictures and video are painful to watch.
So there's some sort of chimp rebellion?
My sympathies for your countryman.
Chimps are incredibly dangerous. What they do to each other is brutal. I always have to wonder about those people who get them as pets as babies and do no research.
As soon as they hit teen years someone gets their face ripped off
Where can i find the video ?
Sorry to hear !
My condolences, can you keep us updated on the chimp vs gorilla fights though? Thanks.
So its pretty much homosapiens vs neanderthals 2.0
No. H.Sapien only exists because neanderthals and H.Sapiens produce infertile children. Neanderthals preferred breeding with H.Sapien females after ending the H.Sapien males but over time the neanderthals stopped having neanderthal children and only H.Sapiens were left. They used to eat us, we never beat them, H.Sapien to a neanderthal is the same as pron is to humans.
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Nah. Chimpanzees ( _Pan troglodytes_ ) vs Bonobos ( _Pan paniscus_ ) is pretty much Modern human ( _Homo sapiens_ ) vs Neanderthals ( _Homo neanderthalensis_ ). But I don't know if those two have fought.
Not really. The difference between Humans and Neanderthals is more like Chimpanzees and Bonobos than Gorillas and Chimpanzees.
What if instead of chimps vs gorillas it’s chimps vs cavemen
Okay let's be very clear here! A group of chimps will not beat a group of adult gorillas. The gorillas were hugely out numbered on both occasions and lost only the infant now imagine if those 20 chimps had attacked the nest area where there could be 12+ gorillas on the ground as well as young male gorillas !
Imagine one species learns to use sharp sticks
It's the personality difference though? Gorillas are actually nice and peaceful while chimps are just fucking insanely violent! They've killed numerous people while no human has ever been proven to been killed by a silverback gorilla! Chimps are psychotic little bull terriers while gorillas are big peaceful Newfoundlands!
That would be interesting, but I hope it never happens.
Hate chimps ever since that one ripped off that lady’s face. I don’t think though they should have had him for a pet in the first place.
Not one of those nasty things hell nah pew pew
I know. From King Kong to Planet of the Apes, Hollywood has given us a distorted view of apes. Chimpanzees were always seen as the nice guys and cute like monkeys, and gorillas always played the heavy. That infamous chimp attack I think woke up the world to the real truth of the matter.
Yes, I've never forgot that lady's story and now I don't trust any monkeeys
@@charlesschauer8927 Not even Mickey? He's the last one left, you know...
Ah, yes. Her face and hands, if I recall.
True Guerilla warfare.
Gorilla warfare
My 🥷
Juneteenth
Nature got tired of human shit it’s called gorrila warfare not guerilla it’s funny how they’ll just run when they know they’ll die even if they rip a limb lmao
I see what you did there
Gorillas are like the guys on steroids in the gym all bark but no bite and chimpanzees are the men with mental problems always getting into fights😂
Anyone who goes regurarly into the gym rips you apart including roiders. People who squat 250kg do not just squat 250kg. They grab you and you're done. Only trained fighters can do something but people sitting on TH-cam and shitting on bodybuilders aren't usually trained fighters. The gorilla injured 3 chimps by the way.
@robertmusil1107 relax bro are you the one on roids? He was poking fun at Gorillaz lol chill. And who cares if the gorilla injured three chimps? Considering their size, you would think they would have a bigger advantage than that. Gorillas are herbivores they're not natural fighters at all they're not aggressive at all they don't like confrontation at all they have no canine teeth or snout for biting. They have no claws. They're just not very dangerous animals relative to their size especially. It injured three chimps but also died cheese brain. Maybe cool it on the dumbbells and go hit a library.
Lmao guys in gym that's all bark and no bite? Good luck finding one.
Redditor mindset. Lemme guess a skinny fat kid who is insecure?
Gorilla definitely has bite… they’re just have more emotional intelligence.
Chimpanzees are very violent and at the same time they are typical punks. They are very intelligent, they usually attack when they have a numerical advantage against other species' and even against their own species. They are even cannibalistic and have been seen being torturous. Thankfully, a lot of people have stopped keeping them as "pets, for the sake of the chimps and for the sake of innocent humans. Hopefully, nature will adapt the way it usually does, and gorillas will do what they need to do to keep themselves safe from chimpanzees and any other animals that may attempt to take advantage of their generally peaceful behavior.
The goblins in "Goblin Slayer" seem to mirror them well.
they are no different than socio economics people in US
I feel like we should join the guerilla war
I like that you're notsosilent
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Lets be real though, if there was a few silverbacks in a bachelor group, the chimps wouldnt dare do anything.
you are mistaken
But there were.
@@taufiqahmed9701 no they was not. It was one silverback with females and juveniles. And still the lone silverback took out 8 chimps
@@davidkomen5283 No it was a gorilla troop. Meaning one lone silverback with females and a juvenile.
And the silverback still took out 8 chimps on his own
@@mmaphilosophy yes, gorillas are incredibly strong but they don’t use such strength as they are not violent. On the other side, chimps are the one of the most violent and wildest animals. In a group, they can easily take down a gorilla. Even leopards are known to pray on gorillas. Just strength doesn’t matter. A pack of loins can take on an adult elephant so a group of chimps can take on a gorilla easily. Just go and see how violent chimp can be. There are some documentaries on youtube.
"Gorillas are 1.5 to 2 times stronger than humans" I think it's more like 5 to 10 times and chimps are 2 to 3 times
No, people always massively overestimate the strength of apes to be 10x stronger than humans. Humans can literally delete each other with their bare hands, there are humans who can literally lift an actual metric tonne, doubling that strength is still insane.
@@Khoros-Mythosit's average human not Eddie hall, 1 out of billions... Average human is weak, especially nowadays
I think he meant to say stronger than chimps. But didn't bother to correct himself
@@SarahMatthew-x8d yeah, chimps 2-3 times stronger than humans I agree on that, but again, don't forget you can't just make a chimp show his strength, it's an estimation... With a good technique they are probably stronger than just 2-3 times...
@@HardPlay01 that's not true, if you just google that you find that they are just 1.5 stronger on average but if you compare the dynamic force and power of a cimpanzee muscle to a human muscle of the same size it is only 1.35 times stronger. so although the chimps are stronger than us on average humans make up for that by being bigger than them on average, a male human can be more than 200 pounds while a male chimp is 130pounds at best
Chimpanzees can be loathsome animals! That UFO movie 'Nope' is kinda overrated - but the parts about the chimp are practically a documentary!
People who keep chimpanzees as pets are actual psychopaths.
@HolyTeacup-bc9uc
Can you make a TL;DR for this
Is it over-rated? I mean, it sucked, but I don't ever really hear anyone talking about it.
Let me know when they make weapons of mass destruction
@HolyTeacup-bc9uc Well, I take your point... even the infamous Travis, (I daresay you're familiar with the story), who left a woman for dead after tearing/biting her face off (and that was just _one_ of the horrendous injuries he inflicted!) -- well, a _human being_ who'd had the upbringing he'd had would probably have been a time bomb! Not that he'd been beaten or obviously neglected or anything like that; if anything he was _spoilt,_ and indulged far too much, but from what I remember (I'm taking all this from memory, so you can take that as you like! Information about the Travis case is easily found, details on the other case might be a little more elusive, but they're out there...) but anyway yeah, as far as I recall, as well as having a diet of junk food, the chimp, after for years having had, pretty well, the freedom of the city, was under 'house arrest' after having had his 'wings clipped' following some 'incidents', and was likely feeling resentment for being unjustly punished, from his perspective. (As is well known, even if I'm putting it a bit simplistically, chimps have the mind of a toddler!) Add in the fact that he was sexually frustrated and must have longed for company of his own kind - I can't remember if he'd ever even encountered other chimpanzees, but I don't think it's giving him too much credit to surmise that he must have felt a dreadful sense of existential dislocation! That, and that tellingly, he was addicted to the tranquilizers used to moderate his moods... All in all, it's like, how could it _not_ have ended badly?! (For him too, when the cops, needless to say, shot him dead. Apparently the look of "I don't understand, Mommy - what did I do?" as he died in his owner's arms was heartbreaking - but, y'know, tell that to the woman who had to endure years of painful reconstructive surgery, and no doubt undergoes a degree of 'existential dislocation' herself, when she looks in a mirror, as a result of his terrifying fit of rage...)
Another case that comes to mind - I'm sorry if I'm a little sketchy on the details, but I believe I have it essentially correct - was this guy who owned a chimp, and, I seem to remember, he came into possession of this chimp more or less 'innocently' - in other words, it wasn't like he thought owning a chimpanzee would be 'Awesome', or that the chimp was "A _darling_ little baby (Ah look, he's 'smiling'...!)" or anything idiotic like that. I think he'd either rescued, or inherited, him from a research lab of some kind, and that he was a responsible owner, or at least, more responsible than most. Unfortunately the day came when he had to surrender the animal, and again, to be fair, I think it was a little more complicated than simply "I'm so sick of the cat scratching up the furniture/having to take this dog for walks" - type of scenario, ie, his hand was forced by a city ordinance, or perhaps his home circumstances had unforeseeably changed, or something. Anyway the chimp ended up in a shelter or something, the guy was all torn up about it, and perhaps it was the chimp's birthday (or 'birthday'), or something, but he had the idea of bringing his old buddy a big cake, whether by way of apology or to try and buy his way back into his favours or whatever. Now admittedly things get a little confusing at this point, and not realising I'd have to write a piece on it down the road, my memory of events is hazy; but as best I can remember, there was initially joy unconfined when human & chimp were re~united, and when the cake came out, that was - well - 'the icing on the cake!' (I know, I deserve shooting!) Apparently though, the 'new kid on the block' getting all this adulation, let alone the sweet treats, this was not going down too well with "Chimp of the Day's" comrades, but, if I have the sequence of events correct, whether he was motivated by a sense of fair play, or it was just to quiten them down, but the guy at the centre of this story, he decides to share out the cake amongst the entire company of chimps. This was where things took a dramatic, and tragic, turn South. Viewed from the point of view of the original chimp (remember - that toddler logic and toddler narcissism! Everyone's a 'Narcissist' these days, primates may as well get in on the act!) -- first of all, his Pops sends him to Borstal× for no discernable reason; then, a couple of weeks later, give or take, he shows up - full of remorse, and surely there with no other purpose than to crave Pongo's(? 🤷♂️) forgiveness and bring him back to hearth & home where a discreet veil may be drawn over the whole shameful episode, and it never be spoken (pant~hooted) of again; after all, why _else_ would his erstwhile hotelier brought this gift, this ambrosia of the Gods, but to cement their noble and affectionate partnership ... But wait! What _treachery_ is this?! Seemingly that initial portion of cake was no more than a cruel tease - you watch as, unbelievably, this creep, this _JUDAS_ shares out _your_ swag amongst these - these _Bozos!_ Talk about an F.U! Fury descends! Something snaps -- a red mist starts to permeate everything! (What is it about Chimpanzees and sugary, fatty treats?! One has to figure that for animals used to a diet of salad and bugs; perhaps on a good day, and depending on situation in the hierarchy, some fruit or even a few scraps of meat - that foods like cake, or ice~cream (which confection - or the lack of it - figured largely somehow, apparently, in Travis' rampage) must for some non~human primates be not unlike Crack Cocaine or Methamphetamine is to humans. Hell, for some _Humans,_ cake and ice cream _is_ like Meth or Crack!)
I honestly can't remember when the dust settled if the victim managed to keep his 'dangly bits'... I'm not even kidding! I think his trousers may have saved him from _catastrophic_ injury in this respect. What couldn't be mentioned in the video is that it is an absolutely characteristic hallmark of chimpanzee attacks in the wild that they target their victims sex organs. I do know that the man who suffered this attack, motivated by a sheer jealous rage (and perhaps yes, a sense of wounded unfairness and betrayal?!) lost, at the very least, a number of fingers. People who have come face to face with chimpanzees invariably comment that when you look in their eyes, you are not looking at some 'dumb beast'... Rather, you get the uncanny sense that there is an intelligence 'in there', looking back at you, _regarding_ you. In this case, the victim related that the thing that was ultimately most disturbing was the very real sense he got, even as the attack was unfolding, that his one~time companion, irrespective of the fact that he had gone berserk, _consciously_ wished to inflict the maximum amount of damage, was intent on doing so in a systematic fashion, and knew just how to do so!
Of course, one thing that does come across loud and clear in both these cases is that neither tragedy need have occur had it not been for human miscalculation at best, if not out and out human stupidity and (as I _think_ you said) hubris. Undoubtedly many will rush to point out the Chimpanzee attacks on their Gorilla cousins are being triggered by their respective populations being forced into tighter confines and competition for resources as man (natch!) encroaches on the territories of both; and no doubt, at least to a degree, they are correct.
I realize it's probably unfair to describe chimps as loathsome when, even if they are at times possessed of human like malevolence, their intelligence, while unquestionably keen, is comparable with that of only a small human child. A tribe of chimps may be intent on wiping out their neighbours, or at any rate, their males, but to ascribe to them the morality of an E•••mann or a H•••ler would obviously be nuts! And frighteningly, the comparison of chimps with human toddlers goes both ways - never mind the morality, who would be suicidal enough to taunt a small child with an ice~cream only to whip it away, if that child was armed with a pistol?!
Chimpanzees occupy a kind of disconcerting 'uncanny valley' where - unlike humans who are able to hit the override button, or dogs (say), which as you point out have been selectively bred for thousands of generations - they are entirely subject to the tides of evolution; but at the same time they are possessed of a degree of intelligence and agency, and an emotional life - for better or worse(!) - that are at least comparable with those of humans. If my initial comment was more or less throwaway, I ended up writing a thesis! To sum it up, though - I don't entirely know _how_ I feel about chimps, but for all their cheeky~but~adorable brand image, I wouldn't get too dewy eyed about these wild animals - I think I'd sooner conduct a gynaecological examination on one of these 'devil dogs', one with a colourful background that came up on the _bad_ side of town, than voluntarily have dealings with a chimp I was unfamiliar with - or even one that I _was(!)_ - without some under~the~counter pepper spray and a taser - or better yet, a .38 - ready to hand!
×'Borstal' - Reform School.
We're any of these chimpanzees named Ceasar?
@@alphashaitan65And Shaniqua, Airwrecka, KJP, ...
@@alphashaitan65Another weak mayo talking tough on the internet but weak in person 😂
And here I thought Obama brought us into a post racial society 😢
Nah bro I'm sure Koba was in there!😂
@@davida99 we don't need to be strong black on black crime is only getting bigger. It's a self solving problem 😂
Just wait until 'King Kong' hears about this ish, there's gonna be Hell to Pay!
Yes we need to find and notify Kong asap
Aggressive and incapable of controlling their impulses, that rings a bell...
Yes it does.
Humanoids 😂
being able to direct their aggression toward other groups and being able to move in silence despite liking being noisy seems like control over impulses.
so it's obviously an empty assumption researchers made because it wasn't observed in captivity and because they thought this qualities belong to humans.
This mis-guided slander of our own species is both factually incorrect and wholly unhelpful. Name one species that would be willing to sacrifice its own quality of life for another. Name one species that would have any qualms about wiping out another species, either intentionally or unintentionally. Humans are literally the only ones. We choose to keep species alive that would kill us without a second thought. We pay with our own resources to keep species alive that are of no obvious benefit to us. If you still want to compare humans to chimps then your cynicism has gone too far.
Out of every single animal in the animal kingdom, with the exception of domesticated dogs, humans are by far the most capable of kindness and empathy. There is a reason you wouldn't want to share a cage with 90% of the animal kingdom and it's not because humans are oh-so-evil. It's because humans are the only species that is even capable of comprehending such concepts. Every other animal sees a threat and kills it.
Do you see them on talk shows?
You kind of got the chimp's diet incorrect. They're omnivores and hunt more than just bush babies, they're known to hunt various species of monkeys. Gorillas, on the other hand, are primarily vegetarians and if they eat any animal protein, I don't think that it would be anything more than the occasional insect.
If they come across a carcass they will chew the bones for marrow which has a lot of nutrients, as well as for calcium in the bone itself.
Tell us you dont googles without telling us.
Do you mean to tell me the video that takes 2 incidents of violence between specices and extrapolated it into a geopolitical conflict and total warfare got some details wrong..... color my not surprised at all.
Pure vegetarians are extremely rare, most "vegetarians" are opportunistic feeders. Nature doesn't waste fat and protein. When you see a cow or a horse eat a dead squirrel or mouse for the first time it catches you off guard because it's not what they teach you in school, but the reality is nature is much more adaptable and efficient then we think.
@@liwojenkins I've seen hares and ground squirrels eat carrion. I agree, protein doesn't go to waste especially in a desert.
"Gorillas are shocked that Chimpanzees started killing them!"
"All of them charged at once, asking to speak to the manager..." - Gorilla
The Gorilla mumbled, 'Her name was Karen...'
this is just like riding the NYC subway system at 4am.
😂 that was cold man
@@redhoode.n.y.6314 Humans and chimps share a surprising 98.8 percent of their DNA
You’d likely find more intelligence in the jungle if we’re being honest
Stop it!! 😂😂😂
Seriously seriously underrated
Gorilla are strong but they are kind and not evil.I hope they remain safe 😢
Depends on which ones. Eastern ones wage war and kill each other.
As their numbers increase back toward normal, food competitions returns back to normal, and they are starting to return to their natural behavior (which includes lots of violence, more than one male per group, etc
@@tylerdurden3722 That's new to me.I even know of Africans and foreigners going in the jungle and deleting them with machetes easily. So the idea of them being violent waging war doesn't seem right to me? 🤔 Maybe you mean chimps?
Good luck to humans if they’re around with intelligent gorillas
Animals can't be evil they are simply what they are animals and behave like what they are animals it's what is animals are born killers if your pet kills it's not evil it's animal doing what it's born to do kill so keep animals in the wild where they belong
The reason why this is happening is the fact that their land is being destroyed by humans making living space smaller and smaller. When this happens the food sources go way down and a fight for survival is a definite to happen. Gorillas will take out quite a few chimps but usually they are in large numbers where there is one dominant male rest are females babies and a younger brother that stays in the back most of the time. That's not enough when there are 15 to 20 chimps coming to fight. But it's been said that since this has started other gorillas that try and stay away from each other are living closer than usual. For if an attack comes they will fight together and that's not going to be good for the chimps. If this doesn't calm down the gorillas will most likely force the chimps to go do other things. They are smart and will realize they are fighting against a stronger and bigger pact then normally.. it's horrible, humans just keep destroying this planet and all that lives on it. We won't be here much longer as humans will kill the planet with everything living thing on it, matter of time
Wait until Bigfoot hears about this……
Gorilla: Strength Based Warrior
Chimpanzee: Dexterity Based damage dealer
Chimps are just no skill zergers
Gabon poacher: Eats both.
Grizzly: maxed
Gorilla: Expert in Gorilla warfare.
@@HepCatJack Good one.
To think people have these as pets. Not only are they much stronger, but they're supposed to be very unpredictable.
only MALES are concerned.. in circuses they only use females , the elephants too are females
People should adopt bonobos instead they look just like a chimp but much nicer lol
@@brandonruffin9055 I think they're very endangered, I'd be surprised if that's allowed.
Especially when given antidepressants.
@@minxella12 - They are very predictable. Watch….I predict that if you remove them from their natural habitat, deny them natural relationships with their own kind, share beds with them, bathe with them, and drug them up they’ll rip your face off in return when they hit puberty.
Gorillas are like "they arent following the rules"
Gorilla: Yo I Thought we were chill. Chimpanzee: not anymore
So sad to me. Gorillas are pretty easy going.
Same, noble & peaceful giants..
True. And chimps are part human, have become devolved. They are abominations.
I could not watch it but did they manage to killed 1 gorila in group or the whole family?
@@bene88597 the killed Gorilla infants
I love gorillas and they're noble forest dwellers, who are like laid back hairy people. Chimpanzees though, I never liked them.
Gorillas are definitely more than 2 times stronger than humans
Not the cartoonish "10-20 times though"
@@AceofDlamonds gorillas are 40 times stronger than a grizzly bear
If chimps are 6x then they should be more
@@AceofDlamonds yeah
yes that was a dumb statement he made
A male gorilla is actually known to be 10 times stronger than a human male.
Yep I thought it was 20
Probably meant more like 2 and a half times stronger than a single chimp
20 times
Yeah, you have to question this entire video after the narrator said that male gorillas were only twice as strong as humans. This whole story might be made up just to get views.
@@treadstone12226 times stronger than a male chimpanzee
Chimpanzees also eat meat, which they've been known to hunt. Sometimes, they will turn on and eat their own.
As far as using military tactics go, we humans tend to forget that evolution never stops.
@LadyMaven
This has probably happened before but this the first time people are seeing this for themselves I don't think this is anything new..it's new to us
Except for the fact that evolution doesn’t exist.
yeah, i mean their dna is pretty close to ours, so it shouldnt be much of a shock that they act in similar ways
They cannibalize rival tribes and wage wars against rivals. They are really dangerous. There are two types of Chimpanzees. Bonobos are the peaceful type.
Mike Tyson says he'll eat your babies, but chimps actually eat other chimps babies.
5:00 NOW THE TH-cam IS EVEN CENSORING RESEARCH WORK
The hairless chimp animations are uncanny valley horror.
I have seen a hairless chimp at derbyshire zoo 2013....
Gorillas aren’t naturally aggressive but unless they’re over 100 feet tall with with a giant lizard getting in the way.😂😂😂
Yeah over 100 METRES tall not 100ft, massive difference.
The blonde is a motivator.
Information I didn’t search for, but still enjoyed. Thank you, TH-cam algorithm, it was cery interesting
A full-grown chimp can literally rip a human arm off with its bare hands. Then bite your face off with canines as long as your pinky finger. They are formidable foes by themselves, let alone in a pack.
No it can't
but can they block 9mm
@@wjzggsjwk You're welcome to fight a full-grown chimp and find out.
we are the top of the predators so yes theycan kill us. but if we are armed i dont think so
No it cannot. Chimps arent as strong as everybody says. A heavyweight MMA fighter is stronger than your average chimp.
"Gorillas Are Shocked That Chimpanzees Started Killing Them"
Imagine them trying to mess with a silverback bachelor group though ? Me neither 😂
Chimps eat other primates. Why would they be surprised?
@@mmaphilosophy - They change the titles all the time. So, I just put every title in the comments as a way of archiving them.
They are forever changed in the title.
@@mmaphilosophy i've seen that vid where a gorilla throws a chimp like a rag doll, but chimps have pack instincts
Hood culture
One of the things that probably makes Chimpanzees more aggressive and violent is they have a higher testosterone level than other primates. Bonobos that are closely related to Chimpanzees have a lower testosterone level are less aggressive and violent. Bonobos are more loving with each other.
Probably yes. Bonobos are matriarchal and chimps patriarchal so it would make sense
@@daniels7717lmfao
"Male bonobos in fact fight each other more often than male chimps do-and the bonobo "bad boys" who have more dust-ups also see greater mating success." Google the scientific article. Your leftist ideas of "matriarchy = peace" are bullshit based on no reality and just another form of propaganda.
although its true that bonobos are more peaceful in general because they are matriarchal and thus dont resort to vioIence as often, new studies revealed that male bonobos specifically are actually more aggressive than male chimps. Male bonobos show aggressive behavior more often than chimps, however since, unlike chimps, male bonobos do not "gang up" on each other they therefore rarely ever actually fatally hurt each other.
@@botanicalitus4194thats why chimps winning
They're more like humans than I thought,
Probably a reason why a group of monkeys are called a troop.
Well like them humans are also Apes, and apes are typically aggressive creatures.
Except for the sexual part. Bonobo are the other half of humans. Mix Bonobo and Chimps and you get humanity.
Or vice versa… 🤯
*some more than others.
In fact we only represent nature, she never cares and expansion and survival of the species is the only goal, we humans are quite human, it is the animal in us which is problematic not the ratio.
Chimpanzees are legitimately some of the scariest animals out there.
Nah, they weak asf (I'm just a fish)
Chimpanzees: “You looked at me funny. LET’S BATTLE!”
That's almost every animal. Hadn't seen a dog in a while, except on the internet where you can stare into their big dumb eyes all you want. Then I saw the cutest shepard mixed something puppy and stared it right in the eyes as I approached, he got sooooo pissed and scared, yapping like a nut.
@@iGame3D 🤣 been there done that 💀
I read that they did a study of chimpanzee muscle strength and came up with pound for pound a chimp's muscle is 1.5 to 2 times stronger than a
human muscle so saying a silverback gorilla is only overall 1.5 to 2 times as strong as an average non-weightlifter human is an error.
A silveback gorilla is atleast 12x stronger then several well-trained men..
Chimps are 6 times stronger humans
Where do u get that numbers from lol, them being 2 time stronger could be correct if they are talking pounds for pounds since they weight around 450lbs on average and almost pure muscles.
A chimp should be anywhere around 1.3 - 1.5 times stronger than the average human, maybe the range should be a little higher, but I doubt 2x the strength. Also, you need to have mentioned the strength type, because sure, chimps may have superior pulling and lifting strength, but what about striking strength?
Just because you are stronger at one category doesn't necessarily mean you are stronger overall. But if that's the type of strength you're talking about then sure.
Yep, when the narrator said that a male silverback was 1.5 to 2x stronger, I immediately thought that was a bit off the mark. I'd say that's more in line with a male adult chimpanzee as a few others have said.
Obviously, it's a bit of a challenge asking a gorilla to kindly bench press or deadlift for you and go for his one rep max. One thing that I believe has been measured fairly accurately for both chimps and gorillas is bite force with both measuring about 1300 psi. To put it in perspective, the average adult human bite force is under 200 psi. If our bite force was much stronger, our teeth would probably just break.
It's no wonder that chimps can chew off hands and faces with relative ease when humans have had a bad experience with them.
"humans shouldn't interfere" i mean, we took their habitat (and food) away which could definitely be a reason for this behaviour, we already interfered.
*yawn* stop making shit up
@@brian4180 what? lmao.
No, Chimps really are aggressive and even kill for fun
😂 shut up
@@Ebonysails "stop stating facts".
How fast you guys come out with high quality content is crazy. I get to learn something new every day. Much appreciated.
You were just mislead so this is by no means “ high quality “ or educational at all
They have the right mix of functional intelligence and zero empathic development to be extremely dangerous. I have never liked monkeys of any genre or thought of them as 'cute'.
Yes I don't like monkeys either.
I think if you raised a monkey it’s usually different then a wild monkey. Like some monkeys have killed their owner. But so have some tigers. And some tiger owners are still alive.😅
no thanks.. I'd rather pet a golden retriever then
They are literally born psychopaths with extreme physical strength
@@cyrushawkins4234 Wild animals are wild animals. Stay away.
Behavior wise, chimps are extremely close to humans Silverbacks are not even close to us when compared to chimps
4:35 "Among non-human mammals, hostility between groups is pretty common"
I'd strongly argue that we are no exception
They could do it to survive but in wars humans kill others for money gains ,just ask the elites
"Up until now, chimps haven't attacked gorillas, but there's a first time for everything..."
What a strange thing to say?!?
It might not be documented on film before... I can agree with you on that one...😉
Chimps has always been aggressive by nature, except the "pygmy chimp", known as Bonobo🥰
The Bonobo uses sex to end all conflicts, with the result that there's as good as zero aggressiveness within the group, and also when they meet other Bonobos in the area.
Sorry... I degaussed from the topic...😅
Chimps has always had a violent side, and been fighting other primates for territory and food... And as you say, the only way for them to make a kill, is to tear the capture animal piece by piece... Chimpanzees are also the only primates, except humans, that craves meat... They need the protein, and everyone in the group really wants (and needs) it in their diet...
So for God's sake... it's not the humans that has "pushed" the poor chimps to kill each others, monkeys and different mammals in the most bestialised and terrible ways... if anything, I think it's more likely that us, the homo sapient "stole" it from our cousin😊
Wow. Write a book.
@@zitherzon2121, I am not sure if you meant it as a serious comment, or a sarcastic one...🤔
So I "answer" both scenarios:
Thank you very much😇🙏
And I will also laugh with you, just in case...😂😅
Wish you all the best:)
I find it hard to believe that this is the first time this has ever happened and that human beings just happened to be there to witness it I don't believe that
Bobonos hunt monkeys. They are a aggressive species as well.
Yeah it sounds like a script written for a project in grade 8. "To play with members of other troops, sometimes chimpanzees will travel over a thousand feet" Wow such a vast distance
Poor gorillas, hopefully they figure out a way to fight back and protect themselves.
Like every major city in America
@@michaels5676i think it's 14 now but agreed
😂😂😂 Man, stop it!!! 😁😁😁 What are you saying? The Bloods and Crips have nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with these primates.
Right? 😆😆😂🇺🇸
Typical racist coward@@neoachilleos6891
Democrat*
⚫️ people live in the sundodger's mind, rent free...it's such a demonic obsession...
I wonder if over time these attacks my cause a certain artificial selection in which non violent gorillas get weeded out and only more aggressive gorillas survive creating a new breed of vicious gorillas.
Wouldnt that just be natural selection?
@@brandonbridge371 that was my thought, although I'll admit a part of me wishes it were unnatural and that aggression weren't so predominant and successful in the world (whatever species). It's strange wishing or even conceiving of a world of collaborative creatures living in communal balance when our reality is so counter to that notion.
@@sparkythancztwiseif it makes you feel better agression and cruelty works... to a point. When you start dealing with larger and more complex organizations violence simply gets thwarted. Ie. Agressive Bull elephants being chased off or bank roberries resulting in the robber getting fake money with a tracker.
Also another comment mentioned deforestation
Should of named this
People are shocked chimpanzees are killing gorillas
Gorillas are a lot stronger than 1.5 - 2 times a humans strength.
Correct
2 times more, is a lot more than you might think.
That’s what I said. More like 10x
Chimps are like 3 or 4 times a human
Gorillas are 10 or more
@@ClaytonCatlin A chimpanzee would be 2 times as strong as a human, a gorilla would be way more a silverback would easily be 10 times the strength of a human.
Intelligence has far more potential for sick insane behavior
Not really, the way we kill each other now is much more sophisticated & much less messier & gruesome than literally tearing each other apart with our hands.
Spears & swords are much more elegant & deadly, and with guns, you don’t even have to get any blood on you.
With missions & nukes, the enemy is usually dead before they even notice anything.
Right because Switzerland, Singapore and Japan are such violent places.....low IQ and high testosterone = violence.
Intelligence is a survival tool just like a house cats teeth and claws. You going to tell me cats are sick and insane when they kill birds and rodents when they dont even eat them. Its survival, the chimps are trying to chase off others that eat food they need. Its not sick or insane, if anything you are more insane for claiming it is.
Humans are extremely compassionate. We're the only species that really shows compassion or Mercy or anything like that. Quit focusing on the negative aspects of humanity. We're not perfect but we're far above animals. I'm not saying animals are evil or anything, but living based on your instinct, you can't expect much goodness or fairness to come from animals. They're either neutral like grills, or they're brutal. Intelligence actually has the opposite of what you're saying. Intelligence allows us to rise above our brutal instinctive desires and actually show compassion and care for one another. I don't know about you but I've never really met anyone in my life who has ripped someone's limbs off.
CAESAR WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING DAWG 😭🙏
Koba is the king....
The one species that I won't miss if they go instinct.
You forget mosquitoes and flies. Maybe cockroaches too?
@@samuraijackson241
Sorry we need flies. They help clean up the bio waste.
Instinct? Or ex? Humans, sometimes we all have brain farts.
@@samuraijackson241 Flies are pollinators. Lose the flies, lose our lives.
*extinct
Them fighting reminds me of some of the walmart videos out there.
Joe Rogan is gonna love this
Man, the man in yellow hat has to be careful with George
98% the same DNA as humans
I am thinking loss of habitat plays into this.
Or Chimps might be increasing their Troop sizes.
Eh, what's important for us to understand is that the chimps may be more like humans in their motives. Humans do not always kill each other for real, tangible reasons. It's not always about competition over resources. Sometimes we just don't like each other. Chimps may similarly be doing these things partly on a whim. After all, scarcity is not all that new.
I think that loss of habitat makes groups fight more and harder over the grounds that are available making the larger groups that are more aggressive the way to go forcing any competition to also be very aggressive and brutal. I think it’s a combo that starts with the limited ground being more of a high commodity that takes more brutal warlike ways to maintain it.
We screw up everything on our planet.😞
Not fully it's pretty standard behavior they been fighting like this for a long time.
They are quickly becoming more human than we ever thought they could be.
Sorry to disappoint, but chimps hunt weekly, war on each other, and if you bother do do research you'll discover that the only Great Ape that is a vegetarian are small groups of humans.
Wait until you see their Leader….
6:14 When the narrator said that when the chimps go to war, they go into stealth mode and become silent, I can imagine the chimps doing hand signals to each other and pointing directions like a special ops team.
Haha you're not going to notice any evolutionary differences in a single lifetime. They're human like behaviors have probably existed for thousands and thousands of years, they're just rare to see. Plus our ability to document things with video cameras has improved a lot in recent years
'That coffee tasted of Gorilla Manure!' Chimp: That's right, we use that in our coffee factories.
OMG, they’re acting more like humans.
No, humans are just apes. I absolutely abhor this idea that humans are somehow separate and distinct from other beasts, particularly apes. They are literally our closest phylogenetic relative.
The Gombe chimpanzee war happened from 1974-1978
They are not acting more like human, they are acting like how a ape adapted to omnivore diet would act, we are also a type of ape with an omnivorous diet
Well we are over 99% genetically identical to chimpanzees.
It's like the movie
*P L A N E T O F T H E A P E S*
Way more than two times stronger than humans😂
Actually the general consensus is chimps are on average approximately 1.5 times stronger. They used to think they were far stronger but more recent data shows those earlier estimates were wrong.
@EddieHall is way stronger than a chimp and probably just as strong as the average gorilla
@FrancesLocke Considering some humans can be 4 or 5 times stronger than the average human who exactly is the chimp 1.5x stronger than? Average human or a power lifter?
A gorilla can drag 900 pounds with one arm
A study done years ago showed that a 100lb female chimp hit 1300lbs of force generated in a one armed pull of a dynamometer "in a fit of rage" unbraced. They got college football players to pull the same device with two ahnds and feet braced on a wall, 500lbs was the maximum
imagine if they learned how to talk and organised themselves like in a Hollywood movie, man!!! Woooohhhaa~
First the Gorillas,
Then the Humans
Even Spy Gorilla won't touch this!
They are like humans😊
Only in South side of Chicago, Baltimore, East LA, North side of Milwaukee, Jamaica, all of Africa, etc.
For real though, chimps are pretty ruthless. They will literally eat their food while it's alive and moving around.
Now we know where one demography got its demeanor from.
Wow! This was interesting!👍🏽
That is actually Gorilla Warfare!
Reminds me of Chicago.
Okay now I get it - this is where they get the song Gorillas in the Mist and where the saying 'Chimping out' comes from
No, from my understanding "chimping out" comes from....well, I better not say it, or TH-cam might cancel me for violating their terms. You get my drift.
Gorilla's are not only two times stronger than humans 😂 unless you talking about worlds strongest man type humans
According to more recent research both gorillas and chimps are less strong than they used to think. Though I think you’re correct about gorillas being stronger than they said in this video.
@@FrancesLocke That's my point mate. Gorilla's are definitely several times stronger than a human and about 3 or 4 times stronger than a chimp
WATCH EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE FROM 1981 AND WATCH CLYDE THE ORANGATAUNG STRIP AN OLD SCHOOL METAL CADILLAC BY HAND AND TELL ME THEY ARE NOT AS STRONG AS WE THINK.
Chimpanzee is proven to be 3 times stronger than adult human male. (They use their hands and legs to climb tree on daily basis, they need physical strenght to survive)
And gorillas jaws are among strongest in animal kingdom.
This video is so wrong.
Their pulling power is strong....like a sloth.
The plague inc music got me subscribing
gorillas: mature and keep order by display of dominance chimpanzees: want to kill........
Started? I bet this is as old as the world itself is.
I'm terrified of Chimpanzees and couldn't finish watching the video. Perhaps I'm being silly, however, there are many videos of their violent behavours that make me glad I'm living on the Canadian prairies.
Chimps love
I was shocked just by reading the title.
You gorilla?
I thought it was about the latest Planet of Apes movie 😂
There's a good reason why Jane ( from Tarzan ) called chita , that bastard 🐵 the actress really called him that bastard .
Did she how do you know this?
@@anthonymason385 Robert Osborne , on TCM .
What did the chimp do to her?
@@robertdemon3550 nothing that was discussed .. Johnny Weissmuller ( Tarzan ) liked Chita , though .
@@robertdemon3550in the wild most monkeys or baboons have no fear of women. Baboons will run from a young boy but won't budge for an adult woman. They also get pretty rapey if said woman is on her period
These things are almost in the dang Stone Age… good lord if they figure out fire.
This kind of activity takes place at our Golden Corrals when someone takes too much sweet potatoe.
Valid. Don’t be takin more than your share 😂
Oh, ... Don't be touchin' Dem "watah-melun" pieces boy !! 😮😅😂
Or Little League Baseball games.
Crab legs turns to food fight and jail time
Reminds me of growing up in the city. Overly aggressive packs of opportunists vs pacifists.
At 6:00 - "These short, black Wookies have Vindicated me!" - Obi-Wan Kenobi
I had a hard time when my dog found a bunny nest somewhere and pulled out 2 babies.. can't imagine having to see this in person.
That’s because you’re disconnected from nature
There’s nothing unnatural about a dog digging up some baby rabbits to eat, it’s sad, yes, but completely normal behaviour if not trained out of
Not more disturbing than any other rough animal conflict, orcas, bears, big cats....whatever. It's just that the researchers develop a 'bond' w whatever animals they study, they name them and suffer for them, that'd be hard.
@@justadummy8076 It still is disturbing.
@@Mrbfgrayit's still disturbing..
@@zephyrr108 I find our L culture of encouraging, or just tolerating and sympathizing with human criminals far more disturbing.
I guess they have reached their maximum evolution, that's why they haven't invented knives, bows/arrows, or guns.
Apes are now considered in the stone age as they are using stones and sticks as tools. Evolution never stops, even we are changing. A good example is the number of women getting C sections. Eventually there will be large groups of women that won't be able to give birth naturally. In lieu of modern medicine these women would have died, leaving women with large enough birth canals to give birth unaided.
Scientists think that they are actually reaching their "Stone Age" right now. A few groups have been sighted making small flint knives and such. You can look it up and check it out if you're interested. It's honestly kind of terrifying. I've always wondered why it took them so long. We, as a species, seem to have won the primate lotto for some reason...who knows why...
See.....they left Koba in charge again😂😂😂😂😂😂
Legend says Joe Rogan watches this video once a day 😂
its Primate Change.
they were doing something draconian
lol. not surprised one of those groups spends more time observing, interacting and around humans
Or maybe violence and aggression and intra species competition is just part of nature…animals have been brutally fighting each other for 100s of millions of years. Humans didn’t start this game… they just got best at it
I always wanted to see a Gorilla trained in sign language and also taught how strong they are with some fighting tactics. Then release him back to his group if possible but at least followed to see if he/she passes on their new knowledge, maybe they can evolve into a culture and a evolved language. I'd love to see what the Gorilla's come up with.
Scary idea.....sounds like a movie concept, "Gorilla Wars", i dont think you would translate very well since their body structure is very diferent from ours, maybe battle tactics is what you meant, Gorilla Sun Tzu would be a menace.
Planet of the apes?
Do you want Planet Of The Apes? Cuz that's how you get Planet Of The Apes.
You do realise if they get guns and start riding horses we are screwed.
@@KingRat71we have the numbers
I like this Seth Rohan narration
I love your videos 🤩 ❤
they are evolving !
Not really, at least not on a time horizon we have calculated. We are just observing and documenting. The idea this behavior constitutes new behavior seems asinine to me.
@@thenewbohemian5779 ok chatgpt
These groups should be encouraged to resolve their differences in a peaceful manner. 😊